NYC NOW - NYC Now Explains: His Corruption Case Is Gone. What’s Next for Mayor Adams?

Episode Date: April 5, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Brittany, remember this? ...mailing Mayor Eric Adams to victory. Yeah, but that was four years ago. Of course, the political landscape has shifted a lot since then, right? I mean, let's start with the basics. The mayor is now fighting federal corruption charges. Yeah, that was us on Tuesday, sitting in this same studio recording this episode. Right, which we then tossed in the trash game.
Starting point is 00:00:25 Right, because Wednesday brought some pretty big news. Mayor Adams' criminal case is officially over. Judge Dale Ho issued an order. And that news, well, a federal judge officially dismissed the corruption case against Mayor Adams with prejudice. I'm now happy that our city can finally close the book on this and focus solely on the future of our great city. Now, Brittany, that means the charges cannot be revisited in the future. So we scrambled our plans and sent you back to Southeast Queens where you've been doing, I'm eating, but also a lot of reporting lately.
Starting point is 00:01:02 Exactly. I always love going back for the taco and roti varieties out there. Absolutely, girls. Stop teasing. Yep, yep, yep. But, you know, this was big news. So when it broke, I headed back to those same streets and street corners where I've been talking to voters.
Starting point is 00:01:19 Because not everyone knows, Jeney, but this part of Queens was key to Mayor Adams' victory in 2021. Yeah, absolutely. He won that area by a landslide. Right, and he needs those voters to show up for him again if he's going to win re-election. So I wanted to know, did the news change anyone's mind and potentially shift the political dynamic? From WNYC, this is NYC Now. I'm Jene Pierre.
Starting point is 00:01:49 We're continuing our deep dive into Mayor Eric Adams and the shifting political ground beneath him. For months, a federal indictment cast a long shadow over City Hall, with the mayor fighting various corruption charges. That cloud has now lifted. But looking ahead, Adams faces an uphill climb, including running as an independent. I firmly believe that this city is better served by truly independent leadership,
Starting point is 00:02:17 not leaders pulled at by the extremists on the far left or the far right. We turn to WMYC's Brittany Krikstein, who's been speaking with voters. Brittany, what is it about Southeast Queens that makes it so important to the mayor? Well, it's one of the most diverse places in the city. Census data shows that people who identify as black, Asian, and Latino make up a majority of residents. And about half the population was born outside the U.S.
Starting point is 00:02:46 Historically, it represents the heart of the city's middle and working class black community. Voters in neighborhoods like St. Albans, Hollis, and Jamaica, their families have been there for generations. And as you know, Janay, Mayor Adams has long championed these groups. Yeah, and this area, this community, it's made up of mostly Democrats, right? Yeah, that's true, although they tend to be a lot more conservative than voters in, say, the Upper West Side or Park Slope. And they are highly engaged. They're some of the most reliable voters in each election cycle. And if a citywide candidate can't win in Southeast Queens, then they have a lot of work to make up the difference in other parts of town.
Starting point is 00:03:26 I'm a reporter for WMIC. All right, so you went back out there again. What did you hear from folks? Honestly, the responses were all over the map. Really? Yeah, people had very strong opinions. Okay, so were there folks who said they're done with Adams? Definitely.
Starting point is 00:03:43 Ian Ross and Justin Deloche. I met them outside a Seatown supermarket on Jamaica Avenue. They hadn't even heard yet that the case was dropped. How's it going, guys? I'm just out here asking people about Mayor Adams. If you heard that his corruption case got dropped today. Oh, it got dropped today. Wow, didn't know that.
Starting point is 00:04:01 Surprised. Am I surprised? I'm not. Wow. Oh, well, I guess we would say think Trump, right? Wow. You just broke the news to them right there. I'm wondering, Brittany, what is it about Ian and Justin that interaction with them?
Starting point is 00:04:18 What was it that stood out to you? Well, I think in many ways their responses capture the frustration that a lot of people have. that this is how it is. This is politics. And people in power can do what they want and get away with it. How does it make you guys feel? A little disappointed. You know, he kind of got away with a lot, it seems, you know?
Starting point is 00:04:39 Yeah. Another person getting away with crime. He's a black man. I'm a black man, but that doesn't make crime right just because he looks like me. Because actually his crimes don't benefit me at all. You know what I mean? They benefit other people like him. He should have got charged for what he was hit with, but we know how it goes, you know?
Starting point is 00:05:02 Absolutely shows people with power get away with anything, man. Who you know matters. I'm sensing that these guys are really disappointed, and there's also some fatigue there, too, with this entire situation with Mayor Adams and his administration. Totally. I think both of these guys were just exhausted by all of the twists and turns of this saga, you know? But either way, they both said they wouldn't vote for him. I also caught up with Caesar Escalante, who is also pretty skeptical.
Starting point is 00:05:33 I don't know. I mean, it's an opinion, but, yeah, I don't trust them. It doesn't change your mind. No, I still don't trust him. Anybody who says they got swagger when they get elected, I don't trust, you know? And I met you the other day, right? Right, yeah, over by the glass. Yeah, did you tell me, did you vote for him back in 2021?
Starting point is 00:05:52 No, I didn't. Democrat, but didn't. vote for him. I haven't liked them since the beginning when he was a police. Some people I just don't trust. Do you know who else you might vote for this election? Uh, the Comptroller was sounds pretty good. You mean Bradlander? Yeah. I was like in that. So, you know, I'll try to make the decision before I thank him. Another one, not voting for Eric Adams. And he mentions Comptroller Bradlander. Have you heard Brittany, any other names come up? I know Cuomo is a big name, he's the frontrunner right now.
Starting point is 00:06:27 Right. Those really are the only two names I've heard from people in all my reporting in these areas. A lot of folks say they just aren't familiar with the other candidates just yet and say they have a lot more research to do. I mean, take Derek Jenkins, for example. Did you hear that his corruption charges were just dropped? Yeah, I did. So Derek is one of the voters who supported the mayor back in 2021, but now he's unsure. As far as the best candidate. Not sure.
Starting point is 00:06:57 Like, does it change your mind about him at all? No, no. I mean, I haven't seen him, you know, as far as everything that he's doing, you know, with so many people resign and that's what gets to me. So there must be something going on for him to leave like that, you know. Sure. Did you vote for him the first time? Yeah, I did.
Starting point is 00:07:17 But you're saying not again. I'm not saying anything. I'm just seeing what happens, you know. part of the other candidates go. You know, Brittany, I think it's interesting to hear that Derek's response to the question of whether or not he'd vote for the mayor again is more about what's happening around the mayor. He was referring there to the various top aides under Adams who have come under investigation and, you know, many of whom have resigned. It just shows that people really take note of those things. Totally.
Starting point is 00:07:48 Yeah. And now coupled that with the fact that many people that endorsed or campaigned for the, the mayor have also jumped shipped. I'm thinking about the head of the Brooklyn Democratic Party. That's Assembly member Rodney's Bashat Hermelin. She endorsed Adams back in 2021, but is now throwing her support behind former governor Andrew Cuomo. I think it can be seen as a vulnerability for the mayor. It also highlights why some view the mayor as untrustworthy.
Starting point is 00:08:13 I mean, imagine you're not following the race super closely, like some of these people, you know, and they're sitting at home and they see these different headlines coming up on TV or online. and they're just not really sure what to make of all of this. You know, they're not following the linear trajectory of all of this news the way that you and I do. Right. Okay. So what did you hear from the folks who are still backing the mayor? Well, the mayor does still have supporters, like Rachel Hughes.
Starting point is 00:08:40 Did you hear that his case got dismissed? They got dismissed? Well, that's what politics do. You guess if you've got money and power, it goes your way. Does it change your opinion of him? I guess it's what you can prove in the court of law. So if they say you didn't do it, you didn't do it. Does it change whether or not you'd vote for him?
Starting point is 00:09:01 No, as long as he's still doing a good job for the people, that's all that matters. A lot of people have problems and make mistakes, so it is what it is. You voted for him last time? Yeah. And you would vote again? Oh, Brittany, she says a lot of people make mistakes there. It seems she's conveying a sense of forgiveness for Adams. Yeah, I think it's a real New York's.
Starting point is 00:09:22 thing. We're very protective of people's reputations. You know, it's a real show me the facts. And obviously, if your case gets dismissed, then there's no reason to have beef anymore. Yeah. So, Brittany, at this point, you've made several trips to Southeast Queens and spoken to dozens of people. What sticks out to you and how, if at all, have opinions about Mayor Adams shifted? I think as we said earlier, people in this part of the city helped deliver Adams a victory back in 2021. So if, if, If we picture a strong support beam, okay? Now, there are still supporters. Obviously, some people I spoke to said that they still support the mayor.
Starting point is 00:10:00 But I think many others are just trying to digest this avalanche of news we've been hearing about Mayor Adams in the past few months. And I think it's given them some pause as they try to see what's the best way forward. And honestly, I think we're starting to see some cracks in that support beam. Just hard to say how deep they go and how far they run. That's WMYC reporter, Brittany Krikstein. All right, let's take a beat. And when we come back, we'll zoom out and explain the broader stakes of this moment with politics editor, Maya Hibbitt.
Starting point is 00:10:40 Okay, let's pivot now to discuss the other big political headline this week and try to put it in a broader context. Maya Hibbitt is WMYC's politics editor. Maya, before we start, I think we should have like some slow breathing exercise or something because you and your team have had a week. Well, I don't know if our listeners want to hear me just breathing straight into the microphone, but it really has been crazy. Where do you want to start?
Starting point is 00:11:07 Geez, I mean, okay, well, we've just heard from voters in Southeast Queens, and as you know, that's a stronghold of the mayor. But there's been another big development in the Adams saga. He announced on Thursday that he's not going to run in the Democratic primary. What's going on here? Well, he's running as an independent. He's skipping the Democratic primary entirely. But even though he has said in the past that the Democratic Party abandoned him, he's not abandoning it. He's still a Democrat. Wait, he's still a Democrat. How can he even do that? Well, he just needs to collect enough petitions to run as an independent. That's 3,750 people. Doesn't sound like that many, but they all have to be registered voters in New York City. And they can.
Starting point is 00:11:54 can't have signed anyone else's petitions. This gives him more time, though, to file the petitions, because if he wanted to be in the primary, he would have had to submit them already. Now he has until late May. And it also gives him time to fundraise, to recover his momentum, because he's not running in June. He's running in November. Right, right. Now, the conventional wisdom is that mayoral elections in New York City are won and lost in the primary. Making the general election almost a formality, right? Is that not the case anymore? It could be very different this time.
Starting point is 00:12:30 So the thinking for the general and the primary are really different because in the primary you have ranked choice voting. You can have people make a coalition and say, back me and then back these other people, too. And you can vote for multiple choices. But the general is everyone for themselves. And depending on how many people, are on the ballot, the vote is just going to get split more and more ways. So, you know, in most elections in the United States, it's two major parties, Democrat, Republican. Maybe there's like a
Starting point is 00:13:00 spoiler candidate on there taking a few votes away, but they're often not a serious factor. But in this case, if you have your incumbent running as an independent, you're splitting the vote in more ways than just 50-50. Yeah, and Adams as an incumbent coming in is really shaking things up. So in this case, the election would be split three ways. You've got Adams, the Republican, and the Democrat. At least. There's also the attorney Jim Walden.
Starting point is 00:13:32 He said he's going to run as an independent two. And there could be other third party candidates. So there's the Working Families Party, which is this progressive party that generally backs the Democratic candidate. and their name just appears twice. But in this case, if the Democratic candidate is Cuomo, they really hate him. Simply put, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:56 So much so they've been pushing a slogan called Dream, don't rank Eric or Andrew for mayor. Oh, wow. But, I mean, you can't rank Eric anymore, right? No, you can't. So they changed it, and now it's don't rank evil Andrew for mayor. Oh, wow. If we step back and look at this week's flurry of developments, what's your read on the mayor's standing right now? Is he in a better position than he was just a week ago?
Starting point is 00:14:25 Well, he's no longer under indictment. Facts. He's kind of got to be. Looking up. But, you know, electorally, we don't know who's to say. The way his case got dismissed was really messy for Eric Adams. he only got these charges dropped because the Trump Department of Justice requested that they get dropped in February. Now, the judge did not dismiss them in the exact way.
Starting point is 00:14:55 The Trump administration had asked for the charges to get dropped without prejudice, meaning they could bring them back. They could hold him over Eric Adams' head. And they said, we want this effectively for political reasons. We want him to be able to help us with our immigration enforcement. And the judge said, that seems kind of sketchy. That's not verbatim. But the judge did not like that. And so he ended up dropping it with prejudice, meaning they can never come back.
Starting point is 00:15:23 But Adams still looks pretty beholden to Trump in a lot of people's minds. If people listened to that first episode of this series where you and Liz Kim talked about Adam's relationship with Trump, it was all about how now it looks like. He's beholden to the president. And he did this appearance with Tom Holman, the borders are, where Holman really made an example out of Eric Adams on Fox and Friends and said, you know, you have to do what we're saying. You could argue that now he's free of that. But right after he got his charges dropped, he appeared and showed a book by Cash Patel, the FBI director, who's a major Trump loyalist. The book is called government gangsters. and it's all about the deep state, as he calls it.
Starting point is 00:16:12 And these people who Patel and Trump believe have unfairly targeted the president. And as we pointed out, even when Adams was first indicted, he sounded a lot like Trump. Do you remember what he was saying? Like, it was, this is a witch hunt. And the Biden administration was out to get him. Exactly. And even though there's no evidence for that, he's really stuck to that as his narrative. And so now it remains to be seen whether voters believe him and are ready to look past the indictment.
Starting point is 00:16:45 That's WMYC's Maya Hibbid. This is NYC now from WMYC. I'm Jenae Pierre. Next week, we look at a major source of Mayor Adams' struggles, campaign finances. Special thanks to Sean Boutage, Audrey Cooper, Stephanie Clary, Andrew Jambroni, David Jambuso, Brittany Crickstein, Lior. Laura Noam Kravitz, Jared Marcel, and Wayne Schoenmeister.

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