NZXT PODCAST - #056 - Alex

Episode Date: August 27, 2020

This week on the podcast, we are joined by NZXT’s Product Manager: Alex! Alex and the crew discuss streaming, solving problems, and eating. Follow Alex on Twitter: twitter.com/MooshuBeef Listen live to the NZXT 💜 CLUB CAST on our Discord server at discord.gg/nzxt every Thursday at 10AM PT! Thanks to ajax0913#3589 for the artwork!

Sometimes I don't want to start right away because the song we're playing is just like so, so hype that I just want to keep it going. Exactly. Hello everyone and welcome to episode 56 of the N60 Clubcast, the official podcast of the N60 community. This podcast is recorded live every Thursday at 10 a 10-N Pacific Standard time of the official N60 Discord server. It is available to stream on demand on Apple podcast, Google podcast, Spotify, and SoundCloud. So jump into the cool purple waters of the N60 Clubcast. It will revitalize your spirit and hear you. your mind.

My name is Dennis and Sorry, I was just out today. Revitalizing my. Sorry to interrupt. I don't know. Revitalizing on mute. Just, just a healing your brain, right? From all the evil forces trying to get in.

Exactly. Good vibes only. We got to make sure that we, that we keep it zen in these, in these dark times, right? All kinds of stuff happening right now. My name is Dennis with me, not as always, is today's special guest, Alex, from the product team. Hello. Podcast number two, right? This is your second time on.

Yes. Sir, there's second rodeo. My second radio. Your 56th rodeo. Yeah. Technically, it's like the 58th, 59th rodeo because there's been times where we, like, lost a podcast for one reason or another. Oh, okay. True.

We record another one. And usually it's like, yeah. And usually is like, hey, I know you're really busy. meetings all day. I'll just sit in a call on Discord in time for an hour and 45 minutes about whatever. Let me see. I'm actually curious to see how far back your podcast is. It was like six or so, I think. You are number 10 and that was 11 months ago, so almost an entire year since you've been on the podcast. Wow. I know. It's pretty crazy, right? Yeah. Time has definitely changed since Time has changed. Time is weird. It's like it can be both, I think about like a year ago, like, oh, it's a long ago. And also, whoa, it was so recently.

Yeah. I don't know if you feel that. I definitely, no, it's, it's odd because like, especially, like, everything's been blending together right now. Like, we're working from home, right? And then we also live at home because that's our home. And then, like, we're, we don't really go anywhere. I literally went to the beach last night, like at 10. 10 because I'm like, okay, it's going to be nobody here. And like, there are people there. Social distancing the heck out of each other. They're like, I want to go outside. Yeah. And I think this is like a natural. Yeah.

Yeah. I saw you've been running too, right? I mean, keep an eye on the Insta. I see you moving around. Oh, okay. Yeah. I've been trying to get more into running. The other day, I mean, I think there's the mix of like,

keeping like projecting out a certain like amount of like I don't obviously don't want to update people with my lunch every day um even if it was beautiful but I think there is a degree of like you me putting that out there and someone like Instagram and then where like if someone else has something like useful or is like it's also just getting a running and there's like you know good vibes that can happen that's great um but definitely not try not to do it too much to where it's like yeah i'm running every day and i'm getting fit and all you are not and i feel good and all of you don't and my life's better bye it is yeah later bye guys you're not as fit as me imagine not being fit as myself now i'm still not fit i just am running very slowly and for a long time so

how slow how slow do you have to run before it becomes just a walk or a job that's true um i would say there's for everyone's um this is actually interesting i'd be i'd be curious to say like what at what point like what is the fastest people can walk and to see how common that is and if that's related at all to like like how long your legs are i don't know um oh interesting yeah because because for me it would probably like i can definitely do four miles an hour like fast walking i'm sure i could push it more but um But yeah, I do like, it ends up being like 11 minute, somewhere between like a 10.30 and an 11 minute mile. So that's like about five miles an hour, five and a half.

So it's, it is truly like a jog. And I understand like that is a jog and not a run for me. Yes. Right. I can't remember the last time I ran. I can't run. I get like this really bad shin splints. Like as soon as I even like think about it.

And it's like it's very painful. So I just. I just go for, yeah, I just go for the, yeah, they're not good. They're super bad, yeah, yeah. I just go for like the elliptical or the bike or something. Yeah. And then it's usually, usually gets me going. Just get the bike for under your desk.

Yeah. I keep seeing those being sold, but I don't know anyone that actually used it. I know. It's all kinds of crazy contraptions, like stay active while you're working, right? Yeah. And, yeah, I'm not, I'm not. sure of how they work. So Alex, product team.

Hi. What do you do in the product team? What are you producing? What are I making? Yeah. What are you making? So it's making me sweat. I got them.

True. Well, with the intro like that, that's making me have some perspiration now. Yeah. So what I do is we're on the team that dreams up what ends the XXT. makes and what nz-txte is going to make and looking at what we already do and figuring out how do we keep serving the community because at the end of the day we should make stuff that people want um so yeah i think specifically what i can you know talk about obviously we have our um you know streaming build that that is out there and it's um we've been really happy with well it seems like a lot of

people have been have been enjoying it and i think we've been trying to figure out how to we better support the gamers who are in our community and our customers who are streaming and right so we've been spending a lot of time in the streaming channel shout out to uh to pills as well i mean not not pills the like drugs but like the uh the uh the person in our community and probably said that a little bit pelenius pelinous um who has been holding for in the streaming channel i never know how to i never know how to pronounce his name yeah i'm going to say paleneleneas because now I, because that's, that's a sound bite. That will get me canceled.

So I guess maybe there won't be a third podcast. Yeah, it was nice to know all you guys. But yeah, no. So, so we obviously have that channel for it. And it's funny because people don't nearly ping me as much in the channel. Like in the description, it starts off by saying, if you have a question and then it like obviously cuts off based on Discord. And it's like, use exclamation point question. to ping mushoop.

Well, usually what happens is people ask questions or like they'll self-promote and then have to be told by a mod that this is not a place to self-promote. It's a place to get help. Or they will ask a question and then Polinius or somebody will just answer it off the rip. So it's like, all right. Well, I mean, like, why am I even here? Like, is my boss just going to fire me now? Because we're not, I'm not helping people.

Like, so it's actually, so I just wanted to let you know. I guess since you, you know, since the cat's out of the bag, this is actually a farewell podcast. So, yeah. You know, it's really nice knowing you do. You know, it's been a great year. I've been, I've learned a lot. And no, when it's time, it's time.

Yeah. You know, sometimes, you know, you just, just got to part ways and hit the old dusty road, you know. And the roads be dusty out there right now. Dusty with fire tornadoes and hurricanes. Come on, Laura. Category 4.9 or whatever. Come on. Stay safe for everybody.

Please and thank you. Yeah, so streaming. It's been a thing, right? Like since the whole pandemic has started in, people are kind of stuck at home and we're kind of being a bit more safe now these days or always trying to be a bit more safe. Yeah, it's insane to see how much it's growing,

It's grown wing. COVID just accelerated it. Obviously with like just PC gaming as well, people are kind of like, well, I'm in the house all the time. Like, oh, snap, boy, these PCs look slick. Look at them. You get the RGB. They got the glass panel size.

All right, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry. I know it's not an ad. But, but yeah, no. You can make it like that. Wait, what's that? I said everything could be an ad if you think about it that way. That's true. That's true.

That's true. Okay, sorry. So, yeah, I mean, I think COVID accelerated everything around, around streaming and just gaming in general. There was a time where, like, capture cards were just not even available. Yeah. Or they're getting super hiked up, like, webcams. I, I had gotten a couple of webcams for, like, I wanted to do multi-cam stuff around

my house. And then a mutual friend was just like, hey, do you know where I can get a webcam? Like, people are going to charge, they're like, charge me like $200 or whatever for, like, Logitech, $920. It's like, what? And so I had a UC 920, like I've been using it lightly, but I basically just like solo them for MSRP. Because I was like, here, I'm just going to charge you what like MSRP is, even though like if I sold it on eBay, it would have sold for like $150. So like very easily.

It's yeah. And obviously all the, there's not traditional sports on. Well, they're starting to get back now. Yeah. And then they had like the racing where it was like the ir racing series. and it was a broadcast on on uh fox sports i think yeah and they had a ton of people who were like professional drivers just race there and they you know versus actually some some people who who race professionally um for the esports scene for that um so it's been really cool to to see everything

and obviously it's really unfortunate but we are um there's some cool opportunities and people taking or it's just say making the most out of the situation yeah no um it's yeah it's really interesting scene that like hold intersect between like real life and like the virtual now right like I know they're doing the NBA bubble league or whatever they call it right where like all the players are like stuck in one like

almost like little city for themselves and they only leave to go play so like you know everyone's safe and whatnot and it's like you know then you see like people who are like in the MLB or whatever they're they're playing the MLB the show or like even if you watch a baseball game right now the background sounds of the crowds are actually

from the game because there's no one there at the games to like simulate that noise of like you know people going wild when someone hits like a home run or something yeah yeah it's uh i i love seeing the have they started doing it in stadiums yet where they have like you can like buy a cardboard cut out of yourself to be in the stadium and if it hits you then you get the ball or something something like something like so real quick yeah funny thing about that we're actually contemplating getting one for andy like literally just like yes team putting down the money to get a carbure cut out of Andy. Andy.

Andy. And it's going to be this one. Austin is NZT Frito, friend of the show. It's going to be this photo right here, the one of the podcast chat. That's the photo we want of Andy. Oh, yeah, that'd be great. That'd be really good. I would 100% pitch in.

So let me know where the GoFundMe is for that. Oh, there's Andy right there. Exactly. Yeah. But there's, so, I mean, kind of continuation on the streaming side, there is a Valoran event that's going on that is produced by Flashpoint. They have a studio in-L-A. They've been doing actually in-studio stuff. So they have like the Plexiglass up.

Nice. They've been doing some in-studio sets. The new, the new G4, which is called Ven TV. They also launched. What's up? Ben, that's the TV. Yeah. Yeah, also doing in studio stuff.

So people are like adjusting. I'm assuming that they're probably getting tested like every day and also still social distancing. But I just wonder it's like weird a thing, especially when I go to the supermarket, this thought comes up with like, damn, like, what if it's like this in a year? What if we're still like wearing masks and having a social distance for another year? And it's like, hmm. And that might be the reality.

Who knows? I think we should start wearing masks all the time now, right? Like how some of the countries do it around, around like, you know, the flu season, just everyone wearing masks. To be safe. Yeah. You know, I don't want you coughing all over my bananas when I'm at the supermarket. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. It's gross. Yeah. Yeah. I mean. I don't want it. I mean, maybe if I was working a different job, I'm going to be like, yeah, get me sick in a non-fatal way so I can have time off. I don't know about that one, Chief.

Yeah, no, that's a tough pass. I would be sick and all that sucks. And probably if I really hated the job, they probably wouldn't give me sick days anyways. Sick days are such a weird concept, right? In what way? I mean, I think the, obviously the intention is it, but it's like, it's like, only use this when you're sick. I don't know. I've never been to explain like what are okay and not okay times to use sick days.

So sometimes like, I mean, can I take, can I, it's like I've always had that temptation of where it's like, oh, I'm going to take a day off. Can I just like mark it internally as a sick day and then not a vacation day? But it's actively the same thing, smile. I don't know. Yeah, like I know some places can't bundle all the days off into one like pool, right? So we just pull a day from that if you need it. Yeah. Because, like, you don't, you don't really, so the difference of things, like, you have, like,

a set number of sick days per year, but vacation time, you can usually keep building up, provided that your company doesn't suck, and they let you, like, pull a bunch of them together, you know, within reason. I think it was it. I think I was telling me how much you had. I think it has, like, about, it was, like, 12 full work days or something of sick, of, of, vacation time, or something like that. I forget.

I did the math on it. So it's like not full hour days, but full like nine to five days. So he can literally take off for almost like half a month and then just like come back. It's all, it's all good. Everything's on fire. Exactly. That's the risk. Right.

And that's where they get you, especially when it's companies that have like, oh, we haven't limited vacation days. But then it ends up like people just don't take vacation because it's like, is it okay? to do it it's like no one else is doing it and that's where like the culture is especially super important to establish but um yeah yeah i remember i took uh sick days when the destiny two expansion launched last year in october i'm like hey ivan i'm gonna take these sick days i'm not coming in the work i'm gonna play destiny all day and then the servers went up to like five in the afternoon but that's besides the point yeah the point is that i took those days off so i can just like quote unquote rest

and just you know enjoy something um and just have a have a grand old time um yeah i think i think more companies are and i know this is probably the case too with nzxte is like um people burn out it's obviously bad but it's also bad for business too um so i think i'm i'm happy to see strides being made towards just recognizing we're like yeah working like having good mental health is is less but the efforts to have as good of mental health as possible is less stigmatized now, obviously. Like, I think just the, also the hustle, like people loving like, oh, I don't, like, if you're going to survive in gaming and then you got to work seven days a week, 24, 7, 366, you have to make

your own day. You have to make a new day and work on that day too and never take a day. It's like, yo, like you might have, and I think everyone that has created something for themselves has, they had to work really hard along the way. And some people are okay at grinding like that, but I think it's just recognizing that that's not sustainable. Like it's like you might have success because you grinded and because that was unsustainable, but you were able to do it for short enough time to where you were able to come out the other

decide and have survived through that when in reality it's like yeah it's it's it's it's like it's not because you went through that unsustainable period that you made it but it like helps you get there faster or maybe it was really critical but you needed to recognize that it's not something that you can just keep maintaining so um but yeah it's like yeah it's important to take care of yourself and and all that because yeah especially now times are hard anyways soapbox I kicked no for sure no like I before like I ended up here I um I was on this like really like frustrating grind for like three four years I think it's like I had gotten let go from like I got laid off from like a retail job as like a as like a HP rep you know like a door to

door salesman almost except for like corporate locations and stuff yeah yeah and I was like this sucks I don't want to do this anymore so I started working in like the fighting game community and I met people there because for some reason like everyone loves the fighting game community, but like no one officially supports it. It's really weird. You have like a lot of people from like the actual video game industry who like participate in the finding game community, but like no one does anything with them. But I met people through there and I started doing like, you know, some like,

uh, esports freelancing gigs, you know, and then I met other people and finally had enough like stuff on my resume to get a job. And the first like office job I had where I just sat down and worked all day was like, I almost like almost like a mental breakdown because I'm like what am I doing now? Like I'm literally just I'm typing in an Excel spreadsheet and I'm you know I'm working on a forum and I'm doing like a Google Doc or something. And like I think people don't realize like how much of a toll that kind of takes on you when you just constantly on this grind and you just don't stop and take a break of vacation. Because especially like if you don't have like a full time job with like vacation days, you really get vacations. Right.

Because every day that you're not out there getting that bread gamer. You know, you're like, you're pretty much working. Yeah. Yeah, I think what's interesting about and what I relate with, but what you talked about is at that point where you're like, oh, it's just a job. Actually, like, without getting too dark, I, in a previous role, was one time, like, so stressed that I was trying to get out of a meeting. And, like, the thought of, like, harming myself came into my head.

and it was like so that I can get out of a meeting and that was like a big eye opening like holy moly that is that's like scary that I got to that point to where I thought about that

and so yeah I think everyone at some point hopefully we'll have like a realization or a moment where it's like it's just a job and where it's like it may have took a lot to get there but I think obviously like

you taking care of time carry yourself is like the most important thing and like being able to be okay with yeah consequences of like you getting fired quote or whatever like being okay with that and coming to to peace with that is like super important was super important for me and and sounds like it was for you too oh yeah i was definitely down to like get out i'm like let me go thank you for releasing me from my shackles yeah exactly um so yeah so streaming is a thing I don't know how we got there.

How the heck did that? I think we're talking about work and sick days and work, sick days, and then grinding gamers bread. There's some bad conversation there somewhere. Yeah. I haven't had like good. I haven't like I don't think I've had bread in a long time. Really? I had bread yesterday like twice.

Yeah. As a sandwich and then I had bread as a side with butter. So my thing with bread because I have my own place is that. I won't be able to get through like a loaf of bread before it gets moldy. So I just don't get bread anymore. Like actually, that's what happens. Just because it's like I, yeah, I don't know. I've been cooking just other stuff.

I've been a big fan of the, I've an iron skillet that I just have been cooking everything in. Like sauteing, uh, sautting onions and peppers and stuff. And then, you know, adding in. some kind of meat or protein. I'm doing a lot more plant-based stuff, recently experimenting with that. But yeah, no bread, even though I really do. I got, I like me some bread for sure.

Yeah, no. It's really funny too because, like, you know, talking about pandemic and stuff, right, and, like, streaming and everything else. Like, cooking has also been a thing I've been doing a lot more, too. Like, just, like, like, I finally learned, like,

took the time to sit down and learn how to panseer steak with, like, garlic butter and whatnot. And, like, it's not hard. It's just doing it, right? He's just looking at the recipe and going, okay, and I do this. Dude, those steaks came out. Fire. Dude, like, yeah.

Making a good steak is, is, uh, it's great. I mean, there's a lot, I think there's a lot of pressure sometimes, you know, it's just like, you know, you find out of the store, you find the perfect cut. And then you're just like, all right, I can't mess this up. All right. I hope this works. And then you can't see it's cooking progress as you go. So you got to be like, oh, I think it's okay now. Oh, I don't know.

And then it's just like, oh, okay, actually turned out fine. Yeah. Let's see. What's wrong, Jimmy Coon? What it will. So what do I made? In other words, I'm just thinking, like, pretty sure of me, like, a really good mac and cheese.

I've gotten really good at, like, making those, like, ramen packets, like, really good, right? Dude, yes. Actually, I think it's a good topic. What is the kind of food that you make that, like, normally is kind of bland, but you adjust it up and you make it you make it fancy uh i would say like a breakfast sandwich right where you throw like some nicer type of cheese like you don't throw on the american craft singles right

you get some like provolone or maybe some swiss on there right you use a little bit of seasoning when you're making your eggs right you throw on like a little bit of cayenne salt pepper obviously it's you know it's it's really funny like a lot of people talk smack on like salt and pepper but it really is like the base right it's just really the base right it's just really the base Yeah. Like, if you don't do that minimum, you're going to have a bad time. Yeah. And a lot of times people are afraid to season, right?

But I think in general, people underseason and then overseason. And so it's like, yeah, it's when you dial back. But, yeah, yeah, get some salt and pepper in there. Do you actually, really, really, okay, actually, um, they related to the ramen. So I've been, I found this, it's an instant ramen pack, but it's actually Soba noodles. and I don't know if you guys have had this but if you ever are at a Japanese restaurant

and you see something called cold, soba and tempura get it get it it is probably one of the best foods that is one of my favorite meals absolutely it's like

so basically you have this you have these like soba noodles that are outside of any kind of soup and they give you a smaller container of it looks like soy sauce but it's like a broth and you dip in the soba into it.

Like you take like a like a you know fork full or or chopstick full or whatever you want to say like a small portion. You dip it in there and then you eat it. And then it's just so good. And then Timpura is just also amazing too. So it's just a really fun like, it's a fun meal to eat and it's also just super tasty. And I found the soba that like you cook it and then you strain it and you like

rinse it with like cold water and you strain it out. And then you mix the other broth on the side. So I've been taking that And then I take like the seaweed Like the dried seaweed like sheets Not the big ones But like the smaller ones that are kind of when you can just eat as a snack And I actually like cut them into strips

Put them over the soap because that's how they serve it And then also put some of the seaweed into the broth itself And then it's just it's dank so good That sounds I'll cook that for you when you cook the steak And I'll cook the instant noodles How does that sound? A hundred percent bet dude

I'm super down for that. I think it's a good deal for you. Yeah. So, Alex, as the, as the, I guess you can say it was like de facto leader of like the streaming channel on the Discord server, what are like, I wasn't to ask you this. What are like the biggest like pain points for someone who's who's streaming or like wants to start streaming? Like what do you wish you could fix? Yeah, this is something that's, um, been interesting.

I was going to say fun, but it's been interesting to see the questions that people have. I'd say for the most part, it revolves around the settings, the streaming settings, and the build.

Right? So people, like, before the bill is say, oh, can I, or like the bill that they have now, like, oh, is this good enough to stream? I have this, this and this and this. Is that good enough to stream? And it's like,

the completely valid question. And it's, and it's, but then there's just so much more information. that we would need to know so I usually ask those in top of it but I think

kind of getting to the bottom of it I wonder even if like if people knew that there's that their computer was okay to stream that would they like then just go and do it right?

Like I think just across the board whether it's streaming whether it's making content making videos or anything like that there's this doubt that people naturally have it basically like it's a mix of either yeah it's like the the stuff you would have before imposter syndrome right it's it's like oh i like i really don't see myself doing this so like uh like is is the question really about the setup or is it kind of about

having some validation to to to know that they should try it right like we might like people seeing those questions in the streaming channel might be somebody who has always thought about it but never really looked into it but also maybe didn't like wouldn't have the confidence to just go and do it right go and try it and and i think that's what's been really fun about it is because people ask those questions like obviously answer them but the thing i always try to tell them is like hey just um you start it with these settings yeah just like stream just go for it and then come back like bring a bring it bring sure you save the broadcast and bring back a clip and then like we can work from there and so um yeah it's it's it's been cool to see like once people

um like how somebody tell them you know give them a little bit of help and then say like hey just like go and do it and it's fine it's it's going to be messed up like it's going to be not perfect my streams are still bad sometimes and you know like where things will be messed up with the audio or I'll change to a scene and the recording size is wrong or blah blah. It's like it's just what happens, right? It's just, but, but like there's that comfort of like knowing that you can fix it is which is super important. So that's, yeah, that's been definitely the most rewarding part is seeing people who like get an

answer and then it's like I don't think like the answer was kind of what they needed, but more was more of like someone just needed to say go and try it and then, you know, come back or like, yeah, DME, the, you know, the Twitch URL. all and then, you know, I'll check it out. So that's been really, that's definitely been a lot of fun to, to help people out there. Yeah. That's, that's kind of the thing, right? It's like, like, how do you really know if you're, like, good to stream without, like, just doing it, right?

Yeah. There's so many very. Yeah. Yeah, there's, there's the game. There's, like, internet speed. There's, you know, maybe like your particular, I don't know, like, servers suck. or something, right? There's a lot of stuff that can really affect it. And even from like, can they get the stuff out there?

It's also like, will my stream look good, right? Like, do, on my overlay set correctly, am I using game capture versus a window capture versus like desktop capture, right? And it's like, if there's so much information and it's kind of spread out everywhere, there isn't like a one-stop guide to like, hey, start to finish. This is what you need to get to get streaming to look good, to sound good, right? Sound 2 is an issue. Audio is super frustrating if you don't know how to troubleshoot.

Yeah, it's annoying. Yeah, and I think that's something that we want to do more of. We've been actually, and I think it would be cool to get some initial feedback. If you have any streamers who are listening here, at the live, obviously you can type in the streaming channel, I mean, say, the podcast channel here. Or if you're hearing the recording, jump into the Discord, the streaming channel, hashtag streaming. And just let us know, like, would you, so because we're contemplating a couple ideas. One is, like, what if we were to have office hours to where we have a specific time to where I'm, like, in chat, like, can be in voice and talk through things. Or, what if we even, like, streamed tech support?

I think that would be super fun. I would love to go on air, like, go on the stream and have people jump in and be like, hey, something's wrong with my OBS. And it'd be like, all right, we're going to fix this right now. Right. That'd be kind of fun to work through those problems because like back and forth on text. Obviously, I'm trying to watch the streaming channel as much as possible. And I actually rely like a lot on pings. Like I try to check in, but a lot of the times like people don't ping me.

So ping me more in the stream channel. And but yeah, I think if we have specific times, just like that we have the specific times for the podcast here. I think it would be awesome to hear what people want in terms of what can, how can we help the most? because we have a lot of people who are, you know, buying our our builds for getting started and streaming. And I get questions all the time. Like, oh, what do I, what do I need for this?

What I need for that? It's like, we want to help people better than just, like, replying in a Discord channel. So. Yes. Yeah. Yeah, I think there's definitely, it's definitely need for it, right? Especially now, you know, when, like, a lot of people are,

you know, that could be like they're, they're like only way to reach out to people, right? their only way to like, you know, kind of possibly even work these days. Like we heard a lot of people say, you know, like, I don't have a job anymore. So like, now I'm just streaming, you know? And like, that's keeping me going a little bit because there's such a demand now for content because there's, because everyone's bored is something to do outside. Right. That like, you know, if you've been streaming, you know, like, I'm actually really curious.

Like, I know the big streamers. I've seen like a giant uplift because like I see the numbers, right? Like people are always talking about it. But I'm curious where like the low to like mid tier streamers. are in terms of numbers and if they've seen an uplift during the pandemic. Yeah, actually, that's that's information I haven't necessarily seen either. And I'd be super curious too. I think what probably did is it had more people join.

Another weird development since the last time we, we talked on this podcast, was that mixer has closes doors. I was very surprised by that. Not necessarily that it happened. It's just the timing of it. There wasn't like a lot of clues. I think it was, yeah, it's, I was really surprised by that. But I think what that just means is that, I mean, this might be good for things overall.

Like, streamers and mixer, I know we're, we're struggling with a lot of things. Like, certain features weren't getting built out that are super important quality of life things. Like the stream, the low latency was still blew my mind. Every time I watch a mixer stream, it blew my mind just how fast people could see my messages and we're responding to it. That's crazy. Yeah, but like I think I think YouTube is getting a lot better. And I think obviously Twitch has, you know, we're making it or slowly rolling out adjustments. But I do want to see YouTube really, you know, kick up the pace.

And I think they are starting to do that. Right. They've been negotiating for like these bigger contracts of, of esports deals. Like more people watching YouTube gaming. I know more people who are choosing to stream on YouTube over others because all of their Vod's there. Right. So it's like YouTubers who are becoming live streamers. So just using YouTube, right?

Yeah. Yeah. And it's like the suggestions algorithm is pretty powerful too. And just a matter of like, yeah, figuring out how to get your stuff to be suggested. Yeah. That's something that like I've always been surprised by Twitch. They still haven't built out any kind of like suggested content feature. And I don't know if there's like just like it's just hard.

Right. or they just don't want to or they don't see a need to right i mean we saw tim the tatman is like 300 000 people watching him i wasn't saying not win in fortnight uh not in fortnight uh not win in fall guys right yeah yeah um so like you know maybe they're like hey as long as you know the top is happy and they're seeing more numbers and why do you need to you know help out these these you know smaller and like mid-tier streamers which to me's always been really really odd because like I don't watch big streamers for the sole reason that they are big. That because I'm trying to be indie or anything, but like, I don't feel that connection, right?

I'm just watching, I might as be watching like a movie or like a TV show at that point, right? Because I can't interact with that person. Like a small streamer or someone, you know, that like I'm kind of having this almost personal relationship with. It's like, dude, like I like you. I want to give you money. I want to support you. And if I donate to Tim, I don't feel like I'm helping him. Like, I'm sure he doesn't need my $5.

Probably not. I think he's doing all right Imagine he's like skin of his teeth Oh man thank God Dennis gave me that five bucks dude I was really sweating out You never know you never know Yeah we're just assuming at this point Yeah

It's just You know what happens when they say you soon I won't say it But yeah so I That's another really good segue We In addition to wanting to help with I think it's just be fun to make some content around

like the tech support side actually being able to help people more quickly I just want to know what do people what are current streamers struggling with like what are and I'm sure big portion of it has to do with the discovery maybe even like being able to upgrade your setup

like those kind of things are good for us to know and I want to get more conversation around so we'll start excited to have more ways for those that are streaming or thinking about streaming to give us more candid feedback on what are the challenges that that you have because I think we you know whatever company values is every voice matters and I think that streaming is one of the best ways to really show that right like if there's just things are changed it's insane

to think about how how much things have changed where radio was probably one of the only ways you know was the first way to really have your voice literally your voice heard it as widely as it was. And of course, TV. And then you think about what does it take to make a radio station or TV station? You did how to accrue. You need to have investors. You need to have all this money behind it.

But now you can just be somebody who got a computer because you know, you're going to university or even something you're using in high school and or even just your phone. And, and have your voice hurt. And I think that's one of the more mind-blowing things. Me as a boomer, uh, it kind of feels, especially now is like seeing just how things are shifting in a way to where, yeah, we can hear about stories from somebody who is completely on the other side of the world and a different time zone have nothing to do with me and I can very intimately see into like what is their life and what is their personality.

And so I think there's a lot of really cool things that streaming is going to bring. Obviously, it's like not for everyone and not everyone even wants to watch it. But I think the power that it has is unprecedented and that like as much as we can support it for like support people who are using it for. for good to change their lives for the better, to get out of a ad job and, you know, get them the income that they need or the boost they need to move somewhere better into a better situation. And then, you know, you can take care of yourself better. It's like those kind of things and those kind of stories are the ones that we want to see more

of. You know, I personally want to see more of and are aligned with our company values. And so it's like the more, yeah, so we want to start having more candid conversations with the folks in our community and who are who are streaming in, like, what are the challenges you're facing and what are the things that can really have? help you. And then, you know,

what, then what can we do as a company to, to support that? That's like, definitely the kind of stuff. Even outside of like, oh, I want to,

like you guys should make this product, that product, but what we get all the time. It's like, um, there's other things that right outside that we want to consider to. Right. Yeah.

It's, um, they're, I don't know, streaming's so weird because it's like, I on one hand I feel bad for people who like have trouble like getting follow ship and you know like like figuring these things out at the same time it's like no one like falls in the streaming

right like no one just like becomes a streamer you you purposefully choose that path whether it's for a job or for fun or for whatever so like I as much sympathy as as I personally have at the same time it's like you know this is not a job that everybody can do right there's only enough in my opinion and if I'm wrong like definitely let me know I think I think it's like there's only enough eyeballs for a certain number of people right and like for you to make that sustainable right yeah like you can be a great streamer have an awesome community of like 20 people unless those 20 people are like donating you know hundreds of dollars every day you're not going to have a living right um and like that's I wonder like it is

if there's a world where like literally everybody can become a streamer, right? Yeah, that's a good thing. That's definitely an interesting concept, right? Like, obviously, if everybody is a streamer and everyone relied on it, the NBA, obviously, like, the economy wouldn't run, but like, I think there's a middle ground that's a lot closer to more people creating content than not. And I think what you said is around like the 20 people watching. if it's less about

and it's something else we also like I would love to dive into more as well like where NGXT is kind of like having discussions with people and whatnot around this like there's a lot of people who stream who are completely fine and happy in the jobs that they have they just also want to stream so that 20 viewers might help them

you know donate slowly over time to them traveling to events maybe upgrading the setup slowly over time and then making the content better And it's like they could just reuse that money to reinvest into their setup because they're fine outside of it. Right. So I think streaming to make a living, absolutely not everyone. Streaming for some reason to better your life, to connect with your friends, to share your thoughts and ideas, you know, to make a really good, to make a positive community. Right.

Yes. It's, it's almost, I think it's going to be almost as much as like having a website. maybe not to that to that extent, but in terms of how common it is, but I think it will approach that to where it's like, yeah, you can do streaming for so many things, and it's not only for making a living.

It could be for much more. Yeah, like, I was streaming for a bit, and I just stopped just due to some life circumstances. Like, I don't really have the space of the time right now. Hopefully soon we'll be back at it, right? But for me, it was always like, you know, we'll do. I would always tell people, like listen don't give me money I literally have a full-time job you know what I do all day

please don't give me money and people still do it and it's like thanks I'll throw this back into what we're doing here but at the same time yeah please don't do it right um like like to be 100% real like I just want a vibe yeah I was gonna hang around and just do dumb stuff with people um but but there are there are also people who are literally like you know like this is their livelihood right and something like for example mixer shutting down and you're you know that's like where you've made your name i can't imagine having this pretty much start over from scratch right i mean and it's not from scratch i'm sure people will follow but i'm like you've learned anything about like ninja moving over to mixer it's like those numbers were not anywhere near the same and that makes me wonder

like what it you know you're like were you watching just to watch just because it was there you know like i'm assuming you're watching because you like them so like why wouldn't you follow over I don't know. It's a really weird thought experiment. Yeah, it's like a level of convenience too, right? Like how convenient is it to walk? Like, I'm sure like a lot of people, people, like I go to Twitch pretty like as maybe not necessarily out of habit, but I'm watching something on Twitch. And then I can see who else is streaming on the left side.

And it's like, oh, look, Jordan Fisher streaming. I mean, check out what he's playing. Obviously and Valerant. So yeah, I just. I personally didn't make the effort, or I was checking Mixer much less, I should say. It was harder to make the effort, like a lot more mental effort to be like, oh, wait, like, who's streaming on Mixer right now? Yeah, no. I remember I watched Shroud for the first week.

And then I was like, cool, it's still a Shroud stream. Nothing really is different, right? The show, quote unquote, is the same. So I just started watching other people. Yeah, no, no, it's, it's really, really interesting. It's kind of sadly because, like, as much as, like, I wasn't to find a mixer, like, just as, like, I'd get because, like, you know, like, Twitch's thing, you know, there's Twitch's why would I go to mixer?

It does suck that, like, now there's, like, even less competition, right? Like, there's one less player to kind of push Twitch to start doing more things that it should be doing, right? Which is, like, kind of a bummer, you know, like, you never want to see less competition in, like, any space, right? You want to see more space. You want to see more because it'll just mean more people participating, more ideas being thrown out there. There's more, what's the word? More like innovation, right? Just due to necessity, right?

More VC money going to users' pockets. Heck yeah. Like, I'm, I tried out hello fresh. Wait, no, bleeping the other day. And I got food for free. And then I was like, I haven't cooked it yet. It's just in the freezer. how you been dude i think i think of me asked you like it's like you've been good

yeah i would i would say my um yeah i'm good at these days good third i've heard this before i don't really know what it means though like what is how's my what does it mean yeah yeah how's your third eye is it is it is it open to the possibilities yeah are you ready for experience in life? Oh, I mean, I don't really know the third eye thing. Like, that's, that's more what I, like, because I've heard it before a lot. And does it just mean like what your mind's eye? Is that what that means?

Pretty much. Yeah, pretty much. Yeah. Yeah. It's just like, you know, if you're, if your third eye is open, you're like seeing beyond like the surface level right. You're like seeing deep deep into what could be, you know, or what is there, but the regular eyes don't see the third eye special you know aha interdimensional yeah in interdimensional

okay sorry um i'm waiting to use that um yeah no i'm gonna do that by the way what's that what are using for the same of xLR okay okay is a xLR audio interface that allows me to add time yeah it's like hey can you guys hit me Hello? Anybody there? We're at. Anybody there? I'm going to cave.

Sorry, I got back. I'm done spelunking. No, the things have been good. My bar is set pretty low right now. I am still working and still able to live, yeah, like pay for food and eat food that I enjoy. and I'm working on stuff that I like a lot. So it's like I think, like I was saying around streaming,

I think we're still watching it mature in a way to where it's going to help a lot of people. And I think we want to understand like how can NST be part of that? Because at the end of the day, it's about the opportunity is for being part of how someone's life can change for the better. And I think that's like, who would say no to that? Yeah, no, for sure. And so I'm really excited about, you know, getting more involved and doing more help. And you're trying to figure out like what are, what are things that we can do to make that a reality to where it's like, yeah, because I started streaming or because I, whether it's streaming, whether it's being part of this discord, whether it's, you know, like being a mod and then using that as experience to get a job or whatever it happens to be. think especially with COVID, the things I'm most excited about around gaming is that it's

one of the few very universal cultures, right? Like if you meet somebody, if you, if I see somebody with, I don't know, I was going to say like Mario T-shirt or like a tolerant agent on their shirt, I'm just like, even if I can't speak of them, this happened to me all the time when I was traveling for my previous job, I used to work at Apple and I used to spend like half my time in Asia. I'd see people at their airport and they would be wearing, I'm from New England. So like a Patriots jersey. Like what do you like it's Hong Kong.

What do you like, why is there a Patriot jersey here? And I'm all of a sudden I'm like, oh my God. Like do you like say something to them? Like I kind of want to say something. Be like, yo, like are you from Boston or something? And like if you think about that, but just for gaming, right, I think what I'm, why I'm excited of work in this industry is that it's something that people from all of the world, even if you don't speak their language,

can relate with. And I think the more things, the more ways for us to realize that we are all just humans trying to eat food and poop it out somewhere that can get flushed away, you know, we're good, we're good. That's all the name. What's up?

If I could do that all day, that'd be great. If I could just eat and then poop, And then that's all I do. What else is it a life, man? For real. Tell me one thing that's better than that. What else you need? Tell me right now.

No one can. That's what I thought. I mean, pretend like you know. Don't act like you know. And then maybe some like video games there are somewhere like in the background, right? Yeah. I mean, you can also do it on the on the toilet. Yeah, I'm right?

Just two birds and one stone. Yeah. I'll start. All start. Are any drawl stallers in chat? That's not mobile game, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I haven't played more mobile games lately.

I don't have I told you that, dude. Really? What are you playing? Yeah, I'm like hard on the gotcha games right now. Oh. Yeah, yeah. So there you go. So I started the Normie route, right?

As you know, I am a giant closeted old weeb, right? So I have a different mentality, right? I'm not as open with my webiness because I remember when we had the hydter power levels is what we called it, right? we'd hide who we were inside and not be an open web, right? You can just head down the hot topic and buy like a Naruto headband that didn't exist, right? We had to buy it and make it ourselves, right? So I started playing Raid Shadow Legends, which is surprisingly not a bad game.

It's actually, you know, like once you get into like the loop of how the game works, it's satisfying if it's something that, you know, if you don't mind like a grind. And then I was like, okay, this is obviously a very westernized game. I'm not a very Western video game type person to begin with, right? So maybe there's something out there that's more weepy. And I landed on playing Epic 7, which is literally like pretty much the same game, just with a bunch of wifus, right? Nice. It's literally like the same gameplay loop. And I just have been playing that.

I've been playing that on my computer. I have what I quantified as on PC Part Picker based on the price of the parts as like they were. now like MSRP. I bought like a $3,000 computer. And I'm literally using it to, you to run blue stacks and play anime gotcha games on a Android emulator. Hey, but you got the FPS though.

Dude, 144 Hertz Gotcha. What else? That's what you need. What else you need? Exactly. That's what you need. I need is food,

gotcha games, and to poop. Yep. Easy peasy. In that order. Yes. Sometimes. Sometimes backwards.

So, but yeah, I mean, things have been good. It sounds like you've been having some fun as well. That's, how's Dennis doing? How do you really feel? Not going to lie. Life is by all accounts, if you were just to put like a checklist, pretty dang good right now. Yeah.

You know, I am tired of being in all day, which is why like, I went to the beach the other day, like at night, because I was like, I didn't need to get outside, get some like air that isn't stale suburb air. I mean some, some of that, some that sandy ocean air in my lungs. And that was nice.

Yeah. Yeah. You know, because it's open and, uh, not Huntington Beach. Don't go to Huntington Beach. Worst place you can go right now.

But all the other beaches, people seem to be pretty chill and they follow the rules, which I'm asking down for. Yeah. Yeah. We, we, we masking everywhere,

you know, um, I started getting, I started getting into looking at like cooler looking masks. I'm like, this mass thing is going to be around for a bit. Let me just find a mask that like fits my aesthetic. So now I'm looking for like cool masks that are like.

Nice. Dude, I'm a Nike boy. I was at the Nike story the other day, we were training some stuff. And I was like, yo, when are you guys selling masks?

Because I have this Adidas mask. I was like, dude, I'm on the wrong team. Like, let me buy a Nike mask. They're like, no,

like, come on. Come on. No, dude. Let me rep your brain. Like, you know who's been doing a really good job? But like the mask thing, like from the get-go, Razor, they put up masks within like the first month, right? Like, yeah, we're making masks.

Come by one. Stay safe. I'm like, dude, that's so smart. Yeah, yeah. It's really cool. One of those are still available. I don't think so. I know the Xbox has a mask too.

Oh. Yeah, let me see if I can find it. Xbox face mask. It looks really, really cool. I actually, I actually want one. Like, I legit want to buy one. I don't even like Xbox. I don't own an Xbox.

Right? Hey. Yo, wait, that actually looks pretty cool. Yeah, right? I like it a lot. Don't buy this one. This one, this one looks bad. Just the logo on the face.

This is not. Nope. It looks like you have a mouth of a, like you just got abducted by an alien war and this is the first thing you see. Yeah. And then they talk to you in an alien language and you're just like, I don't know, fam. IDK my BFF, Jill. Yeah, yeah.

Should we do questions? I have to go in five. Yes. Yes, yes. Let's do a couple questions. Is it one for you? Questions for you. Questions that I think people will like to hear you answer.

Let's see here. Sorry. Let's see. Not that one. What's your favorite song? Favorite song? Right now. So I'm a big Hamilton fan.

Oh, dude. So it's hard to pick from there. But I would say, I think the story of tonight from that, obviously my shot is like something I vibe with, but I think story of tonight is like, I love all the music. But Story Tonight is, I think what's so cool about that is like big things can happen from individuals. and I think that's super inspiring to think about is that like the people who wrote and made this country were all flawed and just humans

who ate food and food. Exactly. And didn't even get to play video games. So it's like... No video games. Yeah. So it's just like understanding and just kind of coming to terms with like, yeah, there's a lot of good that you can do as an individual

and when you have good ideas and want to make something, I want to make the world better. So be cool. Right. I actually don't like shot. That song annoys me. Oh, okay. All right.

I'm definitely going to see around you. I got the skyline sisters. Dude, yes. Those ladies kick, but they were dope. Satisfied is really good. Helplice is really good because of how it's meaning over time. Yeah. So good.

So good. And obviously, I'm right. Let's just, this be real. What's his face stole the show? I'm blocking on the name. Oh, that David Dix 100%. Yes, yes. Yeah.

Jefferson. Jefferson killed it. It's Jefferson and he does Jefferson and Lafayette. Oh, he does? Yeah, yeah, he does both. He does both. I don't know. This is something that's very obvious.

Yeah. No, no, no. I mean, you wouldn't tell by just like listening to it because he does a different voice. Like he does like a French accent in the beginning. Right. Which is actually really good. Yeah, no, he's really good. My favorite song right now is a song that I cannot name.

I'm sure you all know what it is. It's a, yeah. Chores in this house, chores, chores in this house. Yes, I'm going to be rocking the kids bot version as soon as that hits. Shout out to the chores in the house. Chores all over the house. Yeah. I actually have like a pile of laundry that I've got to fold and get put away.

That's, yeah. I'll be bumping that as soon as I get a chance. You'll wake up with that song stuck on your head. Not me, LaMau. Same. Deferred avocado once in it real quick. idea why Zoom is used instead of Discord? For,

oh, just Zoom in general, because I think it's because of usability. You launch it and you can just go through a link and be there. As opposed to Discord, you have to set of the account. So I think it's usability, right? It's just something you can launch. Yeah.

Exactly, exactly. And because a lot of Normies, they just don't know yet. They don't know about the Discord. Yeah, no, you'd be surprising. People do not know how Discord is used or like what it is at all. Like, you know, some teachers do Discord, but at the same time it's like literally everyone should just be using the same platform for whatever organization some people like we said it want to talk after you know just that's true yeah

business just want to leave yeah um let's see what else we got here that's that's that's uh something you can answer uh how has it been different at work since coronavirus think we touching that multiple times actually actually no no forget that one this is better real quick yeah one minute how did you get the name mooshy beef i feel like just a good story behind that go actually this is actually a good story so it's because of counterstrike so i have two older brothers one younger brother no sisters we lived in a pink house growing up but this kind of besides a point i was just kind of funny thing about like four boys growing up in a pink house um my oldest brother in counter strike was named mushu tofu and so i was like i'm gonna be a musho too and i was

i was little musho first um and so i was little mooseu first um and so i was a little moose shoe running around in CounterStrike getting bopped playing on the like late the first laser optical mouse remember that upgrade still bad at the game um so shouted to a c s militia and assaults my favorite maps on source office always like office that's fun yeah yeah office is really fun too and yeah um so i do you bring the cast tech sorry go on no no no dude all those are super fun it's bit the lightning i remember being wowed by that yeah um but but then after a while i was just like, all right, well, I'm older. I am my own man now.

I'm in middle school. Yes. And I need a Gmail account. So. Yes. So I'm going to take on a protein and not just be a little musho. And I was like, musho chicken. I'm not chicken.

Mushu pork. That sounds weird. How about beef? Hmm. Easy. All right. Done. Easy class.

Yeah. Nice. I like that. I like that. That's good. All right, Alex, I know you get a head out. Thank you for joining, man. Really appreciate it.

Super fun. Thanks for having me. Yeah, no. We're going to have you again. Don't know when. Maybe in like another year. Or, you know, maybe once some news surrounding your, your particular work, we can have your eyebrow.

Yeah. Wink, wink. No, well, I want to have you on my show. Oh, let's do it. I'm ready. We should do the, I really want to do the tech support. I think that'd be really fun. Because that'd be great.

What'll be y'all know. Dennis is also, well, he, you may not know anymore, but yeah, Dennis' stream popped. I love the stream overlay and his vibe. Yeah. You already know how we do, Ben. Exactly. All right. Quick reminder, don't close up that tab.

I'll DM you when it's time. Yeah, just leave it dead. All right. Bye, Alex. Thanks. All right. Awesome. Thanks, thanks, everyone.

I'll catch you later. All right. So a couple more questions here. We'll get through those. And we'll do our community roundup, and then I'm going to take off for the rest. All right. Okay, so let's see here. First question is, how has it been different at work since coronavirus?

Everything's digital, pretty much. You know, we're all doing Zoom meetings. Actually, on Friday, the marketing team, you know, like social community, PR partnerships, paid advertising, so on and so forth. We're doing like a virtual get-together via Zoom. We're going to play some games. We're going to chat. You know, hang out for a bit.

Drink water because, you know, you got to stay hydrated. So, you know, that's kind of, you know, as opposed to like, hey, let's not go out and grab dinner. You know, after work, this is, you know, kind of like how it is right now. What do you guys think is the best part, most crazy part that you like about PCs? I'm not quite sure what you mean by that question. But I'm going to answer it in this way. I think the craziest part is obviously the GPU because they keep getting bigger and bigger and requiring more and more power. And it's getting to the point where I feel like you will need to start shopping for cases that have like an integrated, like, what do you call it?

Anti-Sag bar or something. Do you guys hear about the new 2000 rumors? Looks nuts, dude. Yeah, it looks nuts. We'll see what's up at that. Yeah, dang. What piece of hardware do you think, despite the existence of existing superpowers of the market, the NZC could sell or produce better than the market standard?

You already make great, although expensive boards, you resell PSUs. Thanks for that. Modifier. Resel PSUs and make coolers cases in headphones. So real quick, we don't produce the PSUs, the boards, or the coolers. Those are all, like, there are, there are OEMs that make those, right? So there's an OEM for the board. I believe, I forgot top of my head.

I think it's ECS or ASRoc, I forget what it is. The PSUs are, I believe, C-Sonics, and the coolers are ASE-Tech. I don't have rebrand as the right word either, because we try to do something different with them, but I don't know. As the PSU product manager, wherever they're at. Yeah, so, for example, right, the cooler isn't just like a rebrand, right? We have the Infinity Mirror design on the X series, and then we also have the the LCD on the Z series.

So it's using like the guts of the ASE Tech cooler, but we do stuff to it ourselves to make it a different product, right? But you know, why make a pump in this already a company that makes really, really good pumps? And then the headphones, the headphones are like custom stuff that we make ourselves that we don't have out yet. You want a Gen 4 NBME with the heat sink. Yeah, so it's like, so there's something that we touched on before, but I guess we can talk about it again, right? When we bring on a product, the goal is always to solve a problem, right? It's to make something that exists, but that will solve things for people.

So, for example, when we're about the H440, we got rid of the CD tray because no one was using it, right? When we, you know, did the cable bar stuff on our cases, you know, the cable bar, the cable routing like trenches or holes or something, right? that was having a problem, you know, which was cable management is really annoying and difficult. So let's give people these channels so they can route their cables in a little bit easier and just strap them in. So, yeah, I don't know what we would do with the MVME that would make it different than other ones, other than just performance, right? I mean, MVMEs and M.D2 drives are already pretty simple, right? You slot them in, screw them in, and you're good to go. And slap on a heat sink, it gets really warm.

H510 Mesh Elite Nah I know someone asked why we haven't done Mesh Because people keep asking about it And the same answer that we always give every time Is our cases have Adequate airflow for most use cases If you're pushing super crazy temps

Or really crazy over clocks And need a ridiculous amount of airflow Then NZXT is not the case you want to purchase, right? There are other cases and other manufacturers that make cases for that use case. So why would we do the same thing, right? And then also, you know, we have a very specific design aesthetic and design language that we try to keep.

And sometimes certain features don't meet that design language or don't meet that aesthetic, right? Like you buy an NZ60 case or an NXT, you know, whatever we have, it looks like it came out of the same, like, chunk of material, right? Like if you look at the designs for the headsets or for the standard of the mixer, It looks like something that would go well with an NZT case, right? Same with our coolers and our other products.

Will we be releasing our own 360s, 370s to 380s? I can probably tell you we're not going to make GPUs. I mean, I think, I'm not sure what we would do. Same answer with like the M.D.2 is like, I don't know what we would do with a GPU that would be different other than just make it faster, right? But like anyone can make a fast GPU. you know, factory overclocked or, you know, even hybrid GPUs are already a thing now, right? So like, what can we do that's different that solves a problem?

You know, there already are like powerful GPUs that are tiny as well, right, that are like similar in power but aren't like giant saggy monsters. How's life? Life's pretty good, I would say, you know, getting better every day. Well, we produce custom cases with custom print or picture. It would be awesome. That'd be awesome. I would love to see that from like a manufacturer. and from a, you know, from a cost standpoint, there's a lot of things that need to be figured

out, right? But you can always mod the case yourself. Do you guys play CSGO? I haven't played CSGO in a million years. And then obviously, why Zoom instead of Discord? We already answered that earlier. All right, cool. I think that's it for the questions, right?

Is it fun fixing stuff with I fix it? Get an I fix a kit. It'll literally save your life. I didn't have one. And then my new roommate. Brought one and it's like been such a great help to have that kit. Okay, here. Community Roundup.

So I haven't had a chance to get to the wallpaper of the week winner, but I'm pretty sure we know who it's going to be. If you just scroll down and see the likes on it. But what I can say is that milk bottle is the winner of this week's setup contest. So congratulations to milk bottle for winning. Again, another shirt, you know, conferred with with them to make sure that, you know, The setup is different enough to me a different setup shirt. I know people are asking about that.

So congrats to them on their double shirt winner. If you want to participate, check out the Setups channel. We give away stuff every single week. And as for the, as for like the shirts and stuff, we're still working on getting the shirts in a state where we can send them out quicker. So that'll be a thing super soon. All right. And then I think in terms of community.

updates that's really pretty much it's what I can see though is you're using the beta version of cam we are currently testing um uh asis or sync we're testing or sync stuff so check that out please test it if you have the ability to give your feedback this is a real big step I would say you know people have been bugging for us to do stuff with cam and other devices for a long time so yeah I know really really cool hopefully doesn't break stuff. You know, new features, right? Just remember it is a beta state.

Anyway, other than with that, I think we're pretty much good to go. Thank you, Alex. I know he's not here anymore, but thank you, Alex, for joining us. And thank you to everyone who tuned in. Remember to tune in next week at 10 a.m. Pacific Standard Time in the official N60 Discord server and follow at N60 on all relevant social media. And don't forget to listen to previous episodes on Apple Podcast, Google Podcast,

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See you next time. Bye.