NZXT PODCAST - #085 - Fairlane

Episode Date: April 16, 2021

This week on the podcast, we are joined by EDM artist Fairlane! Fairlane and the crew discuss Attack on Titan, riding bikes, and music! Follow Fairlane on Twitter: twitter.com/FairlaneMusic Listen live to the NZXT 💜 CLUB CAST on our Discord server at discord.gg/nzxt every Thursday at 10AM PT and submit your questions to [e-mail]! Thanks to xenu#9965 for the artwork!

I already screwed it up. Like one second in. It never fails. It never fails. Hello, everybody, and welcome to episode 85 of the N60 Clubcast, the official podcast of the N60 community. This podcast is recorded live every Thursday at 10-E and Pacific Standard Time. The official NXC Discord server is available to stream on the man on Apple Podcast, Google Podcast, Spotify, and SoundCloud. So tell me that you're listening to the N60 podcast without telling me you're listening to the N60 podcast.

My name is Dennis, and with me as always is Ivan. I'll tell you how I'm listening. When Dennis misses up, that's how I know I'm listening. We've only done this 85 times. And I'm willing to bet. You'll get it right by episode 100. We've done more than 85, believe it or not. Because there are a couple episodes that we had to record because they broke.

I think a couple of the first starter beginning episodes are like not like not like lost to, lots of time, right? Lots of the email. Yeah, but you'll get it right, though. I have faith. Yeah, Ivan, you know nothing about life production. Nothing will ever go right. No.

Although I, right, this morning, you know, as I was helping you, like, with the podcast, I was realizing, man, there's, like, too many steps involved with this thing. It was ridiculous. It was like, I was counting. I think there's, like, 20 different things we have to do before we go live. So you should probably write those down. at some point. I mean, we do.

So, like, the problem isn't the writing down or the doing it. It's just that, like, something always slightly changes every single time. Whether you feel like it's happening or not. And that throws everything off, whether it's like, you know, your dog's getting nuts or your copy doesn't taste right or maybe your hair isn't looking as good as it could. There's always a little something. Oh, no, my hair always looks as good as it could. But, Ivan, this episode's not about our hair.

and or or lack thereof y'all can decide what that means it's not about our it's not about our hairline it's about fair lane so glad so that is so so good so much so so today's special guest is edm artist fair lane

how's it going? Hello hello I'm doing great how you guys doing good good we're chilling we're relaxing are you excited to be on here today I am I was going to say something funny regarding what Ivan just mentioned as well is that like straight up when we started the Fairlane project, we actually came up with it like as a shotgun name in a hotel room,

like 10 minutes before I went up on stage. Because I got brought on a tour with one of my friends just kind of for fun. And while we were hanging out in the hotel room before he went up, he was like, hey, do you want to open tonight? And I was kind of like, yeah, sure, I'll do it. And so the promoter came in and it was like, you have 10 minutes to come up with an artist's name. And so we went with Fairlane.

He grew up on a street called Fairlane Avenue, Winnipeg in a small city in Canada. And they put on the banner fair game. And then the next time was like Fairline. And then nobody could get the name right at each of the cities. For some reason, they had like a different iteration of Fairlane. And so we had this like ongoing jokes that it was like DJ Hairline, DJ Fairline. Oh my God. EJ Fairgame.

Johnny Fairplay. Like all these different things. And I was like, come on. You know what it's funny is like whenever I hear the word fair lane, I think of two things. first thing I think about is the actual Ford Fairlane car from the 60s and it's a cool car like my neighbor has one and I walk by it all the time and his license plate says just cruise or something like that or cruising baby something like that I'm very big thing I think about is there's actually a movie called Ford Fairlane

with Andrew Dice Clay it's like super over the top goofy comedy type of movie I know I still need to watch There's like the adventures of Ford Fairlane And like Yeah But that 100% is on the bucket list To save up enough money to go and buy a Ford Fair lane And just have it parked in my driveway

And the license plate says hairline It says hairline exactly yeah I never forget Sorry I thought you guys were gonna Keep going about cars And I'm nothing about cars So I'm like Yep

Vehicles You wouldn't understand I have a car gas goes in it sometimes the tire pops and I replace it you know half on that donut but yeah other than that you know it's actually funny I was um my my my car service light just turned on and I was like I can do this on my own like oil I can do that it's not hard all I got is watch a youtube or TikTok video and I'm good to go five seconds ever done um it's impressively discipline difficult like car maintenance is one of those lost arts that I feel like isn't

being passed down to the next generation the same way it once was Well, I think it's a lot harder to work on cars nowadays. Now that they're hybrid computer machines. Yeah. Like literally, like I have a Subaru and like it's weird, man. Like I'll get a text message or an email that says something like, Hey, Ivan, your left rear tire is low by 3 PSI. And it's just like how the heck do you even know that?

But yeah, when I open up the hood of my car, I have no clue what anything does. It's just like it looks like an electric. trick circuit, you know. Yeah. It's weird. But we look at an old car, though, it's like very easy. It's like, you know, where the carburetor is, you know, how to change your oil, but you can be hard now your arm all the way through the engine block, like down to the ground. Like there's space in between things. Whereas now it's like they've got every little tube like custom made to fit into that little. Kind of prefer that. I'm kind of, I think I'm too lazy to work on a car. You want someone else to do that? Yeah. That's what like Subaru, because,

It's just the maintenance is really easy. Yeah. Dennis can't even fix his license plate. Someone keeps messing with his license plate and can't fix that. Actually, I did. So actually, I did fix it. Someone keeps stealing it. No, someone keeps like flipping it up.

Like, they'll, every night, like, they'll just bend it in a half. Yeah. Yeah. So at my old place. And I'm assuming it was like one of the neighbor kids, you know, just like up to no good, you know, doing what kids do.

But like, I didn't have license plate cover on my, my on my front license plate for like two, three years. And then like over the past year and a like year or so, someone's been like crumpling it in for some reason, just like, you know, for kicks and giggles. So like it took me for, it was one of the things that's like, eh, I just go over and I'm just like, you know, I'm going to tap with my foot and kind of bend it back to the sort of right shape. But never actually took the time to actually fix it. So I bought a, I bought a cover actually, I said it covers for both of my plates. So I was like, I'm tired of this. I know who the how this kid is, but if I see him, I'm going to tell him to stop.

I feel like that's like the vehicular, like equivalent of pantsing somebody. It's like bending up their license plate. It's just such a small, inconvenient prank. Like, way, they're not going to know what to do with that. Yeah, it was funny because back when we were in the office, like literally every morning, I would go outside and look at Dennis's license plate. And every morning, it was just like, some guy, we just like, you just have your wreck sticking straight out.

Yeah. Yeah. It's a sign of dominance in some cultures. I have your license plate bent forward like that. All right. So let's get into what we're really here to talk about. Our good friend Fairlane. Who is Fairlane?

Who are you? Why are you here? What do you do? I've been asking myself that question for 30 years. Why am I here? Why do I exist? The people want to know. The people want to know.

I like to consider myself a producer more than a DJ. I feel like I've had to make that distinguishing note more so I think with parents. I think that's the biggest thing is when you try to explain to like an older generation what it is you do. And like, oh, you're a DJ. So you play out weddings and stuff, right? And you're like, well, not quite. I find that you kind of eliminate that if you define yourself as more of a producer. So I call myself like a dance music producer that occasionally gets booked to DJ.

But yeah, I've been making music for like about seven years now. I did it as a mistake. It was the kind of like I couldn't get a job out of university. And so I moved to a new city and started producing music. And then seven years later, I stuck with it. So it's been going well. But I think it's a very happy accident. I couldn't.

I have no complaints. I wouldn't go back and change anything. But yeah, I pride myself on making energetic sad beat music. Let's call it that. Energetic sad beat music. Yeah. Yeah, a place where people can go and vibe with similar feelings. Yeah.

Okay. So how did you just like, at what point did you decide music is what I want to do? I don't want to do anything else. I don't want to work a regular job or, you know, regular. I don't want to work a traditional job. I want to be an artist and just, you know, make sad music for people to feel better when they're feeling sad. Or even, you know, feel happy when they're feeling. No, do you feel so when they're feeling happy, right? It just depends on the mood.

And you're in, I guess. Yeah, what you're seeking. No, I went, like, I went to school. This is a boring segment of my life. I went to school. I studied economics and I fought through that. And I came out, got my degree. I moved back to Calgary, just where I grew up.

Calgary is very well known for its energy sector. And so there's like lots of work in the field of finance and engineering and all that. I graduated in 2013, 2014, right when the Canadian economy started to tank. And so I went, I was applying for jobs and like it was like that desperate post graduation existential crisis where you're like, what am I doing with my life? What am I going to do? Like, am I going to get into jobs? Am I going to hire me? You're like sending out cover letters like five, six applications a day. No one's calling you back. And I eventually lost faith. And I was just like, okay, I'm going to go out to Vancouver. And who was letting me like crash on his

couch. And he was like, hey, if you, you know, form a DJ duo with me and learn how to produce music, you can sleep on my couch. And so I moved to Vancouver and I did that for like a year, like literally lived on his couch and he would go to work and I would just stay at the apartment and make music and like learn how to do all of this stuff. And about six months in, I like had zero dollars because I wasn't working. And he was like basically like giving me an allowance. And I felt like such a bum. So I went and I got a job as like a delivery truck driver in a new city. And so I was driving this little three ton delivery truck with like apples and other tree fruit in the back around the like alleyways of downtown Vancouver.

And I was like hitting buildings and like clip. Oh, it was it was a nightmare. I was not cut out to be a truck driver. But like about midway through that job, I was like, okay, I didn't enjoy the office life. I didn't enjoy finance. So I'm kind of happy that that isn't working out. I'm not liking this. I don't feel like I'm cut out to be a truck driver

or never really had much joy in doing manual labor. So I was like, maybe this music thing will actually pan out to something if I'm patient enough. And so I kind of fought through it and was a starving musician for about four years, like the total cliche. And then fast forward to today and I can afford groceries and my rent. And I'd say I'm doing pretty well just based off of those. two standards right there.

Speaking of groceries, I'm curious, have you ever had a Canadian bagel or a Montreal bagel to be exactly? I was going to ask that too. A Montreal bagel? Yeah. Or a Canadian bagel. I've had one. I'm sure I've had one, but I don't know what it is.

It's basically a bagel without a hole. A bagel. Oh, just like a bun. I don't know. We're talking about that at work the other day, talking about bagels, and someone mentioned that they were making a Canadian bagel or something. So I was trying to imagine in my mind what a Canadian bagel would look like. And that's how I imagine it, just like a bagel without a whole.

I think they're just screwing with you, dude. I'm looking at Canadian bagels. We have like Tim Hortons, right? It used to be our pride in Joey in Canada. It's like the Tim Hortons was the like breakfast. coffee and bagel shop. And it was proudly owned by a Canadian family. And then we had this like,

we have Tim Horns and you don't. And then it got bought out by an American company and the quality went through the floor. But they had... That's how we do it, baby. We come here and we water down your brand. But they had the everything bagels with cream cheese, which are like poppy seeds

and sesame seeds and all that. And like, those were, that was it. That was what you were craving in the morning. You get an everything bagel with some... Apparently, the Montreal bagel is smaller, thinner, sweeter, and denser with a larger hole, and is always baked in a woodfire oven. And unlike the popular New York style bagel, the... The thick boy.

Yeah, this one contains poppy seed and sesame and no sourdough. The New York style one apparently has sourdough. So there you go. Now you know. So it's not no hole, it's a bigger hole. It's a bigger hole. Yeah. You're misinformed.

And here we are. Here I am learning about my own Canadian culture. The Canadian cuisine cast. My Canadian cuisine. Speaking of Canadian things, our Canadian moderator, Trog wants to know who's your favorite hockey team? See, this is right. I didn't really have a choice.

So when I grew up, my dad is like a diehard Montreal Canadiens fan. Like he's got the logo tattooed on his arm. What the end? Like, bro, he went, like, it was actually really cool. I think it was like five years ago. He won a chance to play with some of the alumni team. Like they did like a small, like the retirees. They're all in their 60s now.

And they played like a shini game of like three on three in like an arena. And it was like his life was made. I don't think he's ever been happier in his entire life. But I grew up and he was like, we cheer for the habs in this house. Like this is what we do. And if you have any friends that wear Maple Leafs jerseys or support Toronto Maple Leafs, like we cannot affiliate with them. And it was like, it's kind of funny that he was doing it as a joke.

Like he's not going to be like, you cannot be friends with someone. But I feel like I took it so to hard as a kid going to school. And I'd see someone with the Leafs jersey. I'd be like, conflicted. I'm like, man, like a beat of sweat dropping down my forehead. Like, I don't know if I should do something about this. But like, it's not looking good for this kid. Like, he's about to have another thing coming.

So we grew up cheering for the Montreal Canadians and then some people take that really serious man like all the the sport alliances yeah and me like me personally I like sports and I consider myself a sports fan like you know I I love it and I watch sports but I had a I had a Raiders jacket on the other day I was at Target and some guy he was walking by me and he just looked at me and he's like, Raiders, and he just walked away. And I was like,

what the heck, man? Like, this guy doesn't know me. Like, why is he just like, you know, judging me based on my jacket?

It's like that YouTube prank, though, where the guy goes through the mall and just like scoffs at people, goes like, and watches how deflated they become when someone just like, is towards you and you're like,

like, I don't want to speak on your behalf, but I'd imagine that if someone came up and like mocked the clothing I was wearing, I'd feel a little bit deflated. I was not deflated I was just like Because it was an older man

It was a guy that was like You know In his 60s And why is he like You know Mocking me Because I was a sports fan Like if I saw someone

With like a 49ers jacket You know I hate the 49ers But I'm not going to be like 49ers Get out here Get out of here Dirty Habs fan

I'm a dirty habs fan I'm a dirty To be completely fair Raiders fans are a special kind of like, you know, they're a special kind of person. Stereotype tennis, their special breed. Exactly, yeah. So I'm not surprised if anyone has anything against, you know, a Raiders fan.

If I see a black Chevy Suburban with a Raiders logo on the back of it, I already know what kind of person that you have in that car. And then every percent of that time, I'm 100% correct. It's that person. Yeah. It's that guy. I wonder, too, if someone hates his team, like that guy, this guy hates the Raiders that bad, like something must have happened.

Like maybe he like lost his wife to like the star quarterback or something 20 years ago. It's like a story behind it, right? Raiders fan bent his license plate in half. Yeah, that's true. And ate his bagel, right? Made the whole three times bigger. Keep serving me Montreal bagels. Come on, dude.

So I want to ask you for, so you were telling us just before that you kind of just like kind of got into music just through a friend who kind of, told you to, hey, either do it or like you can't crash on my couch. What's your background with music? Like, did you, like, did you have, like, any big influences in your past? It kind of, like, made it made you want to get into music a little bit more. Yeah. Yeah. So, like, growing up in, in high school, I was in a band. I think. Let's go. It seems like, it seems like people more often than not were in a band in high school. And I kind of love that. That it's like, everyone's, like,

dirty secret. They're like, yeah, I was the lead singer of a band in high school. And they're kind of like hide in their shoulders, they tell you. And you're like, whoa, okay, no, we got to dig that up. But no, we were in a band. We wanted to be, like, I grew up listening to a lot of, like, the pop punk emo stuff in the 2000s, I think, like everyone, a lot of people went through that phase. I love it. Okay. So real quick, before you continue, because I actually had a question about this, I was going to ask earlier, you need to choose right now. Panic at the Disco or My chemical romance which one which knew about my chemical romance okay I feel like I just I vibed with their music a little bit more I feel like Panic at the disco came out I think it was

the timing of when their project came out they're a little late they're a little late they were a little bit late and by the time they did it it seemed like it was so commercialized like they had the formula and like I think that was good huh it was so good it's like it was it was it was good it was like it was good it was undefiled Deniably catchy, but formulated in a way where I was just like, I feel like there's, I feel like there's like a machine that's like making me want to consume this. Like this is like part of a bigger picture here. Like there's like a whole team behind this. Just like this podcast, right? It's a whole machine. You were just a kid and your life was a nightmare. I'm just a kid. Yeah, exactly. But yeah,

so I think by the time Panic of the Disco came out, it was sort of like, okay, like I see what's going on. And that was that was when it started to become like a lot more mainstream and not to sound like, pretentious because I'm not that kind of person. It's like mainstream. It's like, look, if it's good and it's catchy, it's good and it's catchy. Like if you're denying that because you want to beat some holier than thou, like, I don't listen to things that other people listen to, then go do what you want to do. But I will, I will. I will do that. Exactly. You've started a war. No, but, yeah, I was listening to a lot of, like, senses fail. There's a smoke back old misery signals that I loved and like, Oh boy.

Alexis on fire. I listened to a lot of Alexis on fire. We like, me and my bandmates were like, we wanted to be that so badly. Like, we're like, we got to find the like, George Petit to like scream. Then we need to find the Dallas Green to like sing.

And so we were putting this band together. And I was always way too picky. So like we never played a show or did anything because I was always firing people in the band. Like we go through like three practices and I'd be like, no. You're not keeping up. We need someone. They're like, dude, we're like 14.

years old. Like, relax. We're not trying to go all the way with this. And I'm like, no, no, no, no. I need a stronger bass player. And so we always had like two members of the band missing and never got to a full band and we're never able to perform. But that was kind of like the background for all of it was like I always wanted to kind of like create that style of music. So, you know, Ivan was in a band when he was younger. Yeah, I'm a guitar player. I, you know, and I also, I grew up also, like, listening to punk and playing punk, but by time Panic and Disco came out, like, what year was that? I think I was already, like, out of college.

I never got into them or something with, like, my chemical romance. I graduated from high school in 1999. So for me, yeah, for me, like the pop punk bands from back then were, like, I guess, like, no effects. Yeah. I guess even Green Day. Yeah. Could you consider them to be like pop-pumped? They were like the early pavers of that.

Yeah. That was Panagascar, for me, it was like around like 15, 16, so like 2005. Yeah. Yeah, that's literally when I was done with college. And yeah, like, it was interesting to me because I guess someone who like, you know, grew up listening to punk music, I saw it change from being like kind of like gutter punk grunch type of style to like. the scenester look with like, you know, dark hair over your eyes and like, you know, you're wearing like fingerless gloves and all that. Why don't you love me?

Yeah. Yeah. Like I never, I never got into it. See, that's what I'm talking about. It's not a phase mom. It's a lifestyle, right? It's a lifestyle. You never understand.

If I would have been 10 years younger, I probably would have been into it. Yeah. It went past me. You'd have been drawing X's on the top of your hand and go. Shadow Pankton. Straightage is actually like really huge when I was in high school. Well actually, Dennis and a fun fact

went to the same high school. But back in the 90s, man, like Orange County, that was like the place for like hardcore music. So it was like all over my school. Everyone was like a punk rocker or like a headbanger or like a skanker, I guess. Yeah. Or straightage kid.

It was like way more categorized that way, was it? Yeah. Yeah, it's definitely very, like, clicky. Like, you can tell, you can tell what music people listened to just by looking at them. Like, seriously, like, there would be kids with, like, Timberland boots, and you're like, oh, that guy listens to Wu Tang. Yeah. Yeah, I'm serious.

Stop around the tin. Or there's, like, a puppy jacket. You know, a guy with, like, cut off dickies, and you're like, oh, that guy's into the Ramones or whatever. Yeah. It's just, like, everything was based on how you looked. What's the movie? If you were creepers, you were into ska. I was going to ask is like, because like growing up, like watching movies, for instance,

like I know it's always exaggerated, but I feel like high school and movies is always depicted in such a way that it's like very clicky like that where it's like the jocks where they're their football jackets, the Scott kids wear like, yeah, like the cutoff jean jackets with like anarchy symbols drawn on them and like all this. Whereas like in Canada, I feel like it's kind of just like everyone just is like a mutt of like, I don't even know, like a habitual mutt where they just wear like sweatpants and teeth. shirts and did surprise you and they're like oh actually only listen to like deathcore screamo but they have like you know like a clean cut slick haircut or something whereas if you're like yeah like

you watch movies like growing up it just it never they're like high school's not like that but i wondered if it was for like that in america it's like honestly i don't know if it's like that now but it depends on the era at least when i was in high school it it it was like it was very clicky but not like a movie it wasn't that over the top but there was definitely like you know, clicks, like the punks hung out with the punks, the jocks hung out with the jocks, et cetera. Yeah. But another thing I'm noticing too now is I think that that 90 style is coming back. I'm starting to see more kids dressed like how I used to dress when I was a kid. And it's funny because when I was in high school too, like I remember like the 1970s fashion

was actually coming back. And, you know, like literally like mostly girls, but girls were wear bell boned in pants when I was in high school. And looking back, I'm like, yeah, I guess it makes sense because in the 90s, 70s were, you know, 20 years before. And I guess now, 20 years later, people are dressing, or the kids are dressing like 20 years ago now again. So what was a crazy, a crazy fact that like blew me away was that when we were growing up in the 90s, the 60s equivalent is the 90s today. So like the kids growing up the 20s, think of the 90s, the same way we thought of the 60s. Like ancient time, we were like, all back in this,

they were crazy back then. And it's like, that's the 90s. Yeah. Yeah. It's like really not that long ago. Because like you think about like the fashion and like the 90s was such a like a mishmash of like random like crap.

And like I, the only thing they could think of of like being like iconic, right? Is like just high waisted jeans that are like really, really wide. Right. But like other than that though, like I feel like the 60s or 70s had such distinct like looks and styles to them that I really want to see it through the lens of a younger person.

And it's like, what do you see when you watch the movie Clueless? What about that makes you want to dress that way? Because none of it was good, right? Like everyone's wearing like really weird colors and they had like bucket hats on and like the most like cringiest stuff on the world. I don't know. I just can't see it. Goodness the worst is Jinkgo jeans. He's wearing him right now.

I'm all about that. Yeah. So in our in our, in our podcast chat, Ivan just on a on a Discord. I haven't just linked a picture of Oliver Tree with those giant jeans that he wears. Yeah, he's a perfect example of that. Yeah. I'm not exaggerating. Like, people used to dress like that when I was in high school.

And those were like the ravers. Like, those were the guys that would, they used to throw parties. Like, they would throw ditch parties. And they call them DPs. You know, like, they would hand out flyers like, hey, we're throwing a D.P. And these guys, yeah, they were like dressed like this. And they would play, like, techno music and, I guess, dance. I feel like that was a very specific look though.

Like when I think of like 90s, I think of like I'm like linking it right now. Sorry for those who are just listening just podcast audio only. But you know, it's what you get for not listening live. But like this is like the type of look that I'm thinking of when I think of like the 90s. That look was popular in the 90s, but not with high school kids. That was more like sophisticated, like, you know, 20-somethings. Like I think that was more like a like a 20-something or even like a mom. type of look.

Like the girls in the 90s, like the high school kids, they didn't really dress like that, man. Like they were honestly wearing bell bottoms in high school during that time. Yeah, I remember bill bottoms being huge. And then the guys started wearing bell bottoms for me. I don't know if that happened with you as well. But that was like a lot of the like pocket started wearing the skinny gene ball bottoms on dudes. I was like, okay. Yeah.

And like the whole neon fluorescent type of thing that Dennis Link, That was like really early 90s, but I actually associate that more with like late 80s, not so much like 90s. Because the 90s, I think what happened in the 90s was that's when people started kind of seeing more like what the entire world was doing as opposed to. Because in the 90s, believe it or not, we did have internet. Yeah. It was super slow. But you can go on AOL.com and you can see like, you know, picture. of Kurt Cobain or whatever and yeah he's wearing like a flannel shirt tied around his

his waist so kids would like copy that and whatnot and also music videos i think influenced the style a lot and you could straight up google how to be cool in 1990 how to impress your friends in high school but wasn't google it was like altavista and like yahoo search or something ask jeeves and stuff like yeah you know what i'm noticing now too is i'm noticing a lot more people roller skating Yeah, as like a newfound or like a rediscovered convenient form of transportation. Yeah. And like roller rinks too. I'm seeing a lot of like TikToks about roller rinks.

And I'm like, I've never seen a roller rink, but now I want to go. I don't know how to skate. But now I'm going to learn just so I can do this thing and listen to like Tupac while I'm like, you know, skating around. Just cruising in circles. Just forgetting about all your problems, man. Exactly. That's what you need. That's the way to do it.

So I got to ask you, man. Yeah, it's such like a basis in like pop and punk and stuff. Why? Why, why electronic music? Why not like, you know, want to be, you know, like one of those sick rocker dudes out there with a guitar and like drums and stuff? I think part of me always like will want to do that. The electronic music, like the real draw was that like I got my start in electronic music in university around my second or third year where a friend of mine started a promotional company. he was throwing these parties on Friday nights at this local nightclub and he'd bring in different DJs and I would go and I would like check out the shows and you know it's like as I just am turning like 19 where like the legal um the ages in BC here um so I could go to the clubs and I went in and it's like my first time like seeing or hearing electronic music on like a big club system and I

just like feel the bass and the kick pumping and everything and it was like really really cool to me and that was so readily accessible where he was like hey man if you go learn how to do this like I'll book you and you can play a show and so right out of the gate it was like access to a crowd and the energy and everything it just kind of like consumed me like very very quickly where it just it seemed like so exponential to just go from like learning how to DJ in your bedroom to playing to like 300 400 people next week and I was like okay this just like it was just so quick compared to like the whole band dynamic where it's like like yeah like you have a band you got you know four five six members you're running through practice

every day trying to get your set right and then you go play like a small local show and it's hit or miss and like you know you might not get booked for the next one and then if you do get paid you're splitting it five ways and there's just like there's a lot of struggle that went into that and then to me this just seemed kind of like a fast track to just performing in front of people right and so that kind of carried me through university where I wasn't DJing too often but enough that like you know one or two gigs of month would throw me an extra couple hundred bucks and then that was sort of like hey cool I can pay my phone bill with this and I can like you know go out and like you know buy get myself a nice warm apple pie every now and then you know to treat myself 200 dollar phone bill and

oh yeah nice Canadian Montreal bagel that go for 199 9999 out here so no yeah so that was kind of like what got me into that and then I'm noticing now as I've you know been doing the electronic thing for six seven years is like I'm starting to come back to like, you know, I bring my guitar out on stage now and I play live instruments on stage. And I think eventually I would like to move more towards like a full band dynamic, if that's possible. Just because I've found there's like that thing that I personally never felt with just DJing was like the intimacy and the like the crowd relationship and experience that you can create when you have an instrument and like coming out on stage and like, you know, like fist bump in a kid and then like playing. a riff or like, you know, like sitting on the edge of the stage and like having people like be right there while you play. Like, it's like if you're DJing, you're just like sitting there

and like letting the song play behind you, which would be kind of weird. You're like, here I am. And the machine back there is doing everything. Whereas like with the instrument, I felt like it was just like a, it was a cool way to like bring the experience back to like an actual performance. Yeah, I think it's a big difference. Like, you know, even like a band, like an old electronic band like craftwork, for example, like you listen. You listen to their music and it's like one experience. And then you watch them live and it's something totally different because they're playing that music. And you see like the actual instruments and you see them like banging the keyboards and using the twisting the knobs and all that.

And it's it makes a huge difference for me personally as a music fan. I mean, I'm wearing a t-shirt from my favorite record shop. Yeah. Well, there you go. Levels. Yeah. Shout out to Lovell's uptown Whittier. Yeah, for me, like I like electronic music and I don't mind, you know, just listening to like someone spin a record or mix CDs or whatever, but you're right. Like I totally enjoy it more when I see a musician like playing that song as opposed to just, you know, hitting play on a record or whatever.

So that's cool, man. I like that. Yeah. Then just press play and then put your hands in the air for two minutes. the next one comes in, then you do the same thing. You're like, I mean, there is definitely an art to putting on, like, a show and, like, track listing and, like, having the right song selection definitely is a skill set, undeniably. But I find that, like, yeah, it's like, okay, you can plan the perfect set.

And that's, like, one part of it. But then, yeah, it's like, what are people, like, paying to see, if that makes sense? Yeah, what are you doing in between the songs that's, like, interesting? Someone in the Discord chat mentioned 100 gecks if you heard of them before. And they kind of do a pop punk electronic kind of mix. Yeah, that's really cool. Yeah. And someone that I was in L.A.

And I was actually, so I was there to watch. God, the name of the band is like skipping my mind. I love them so much because I'm such a ding-don. But I saw this other, this other artist that I wasn't expecting to see. He was doing EDM. but then the dude hops on like the table and starts playing a saxophone. I think it's gris. Oh, gris.

Yeah, gris. Yeah, gris. Yeah. And that to me was such a mind-blowing experience because like, you know, that's one of the reasons why I actually don't like going to like EDM shows is because, you know, I kind of miss the performative aspect, right? Like the music that I listened to when I was when I was teenager was literally, you know, was on the low emo pop punk, right? I didn't tell anybody, but on the outside, I was like a metal head, right? Like, I had the long hair, black t-shirt, Chuck's everything, right? So, like, to me, like, you know, seeing these dudes, um, mostly dudes on stage and they're

just ripping it on this guitar or going ham on, like, you know, on the drums, to me is, like, such a big part of, like, what a performance is. And to kind of go further with that, it's also the reason why, like, I was such a big fan of Lady Gaga in the beginning because she was a performer. She wasn't just, I'm going to sing. She did a whole thing. And no one understood why I liked her so much, like in my 20s, right? Like, I got so much crap for it.

But I was like, dude, like, have you seen her sets? Like, they're really good. Like, she does a lot of stuff on stage. So, like, myself, I'm really attracted to, like, performers and people who put on a show. So, God, not trying to think of the band that I was there to see. Or, I don't know if they're a band, they're their duo. But, yeah, I think it's great that you're, like, kind of trying to get more to like the performative aspect of it.

Yeah. Yeah. It's always been my dream to like jump into the crowd while I'm performing and like play the guitar in the crowd with everyone there. And like just have it be like, like, like, like, at those old like underground shows that you would go to like in high school and stuff. We're like, yeah, like your band, your friend was like, oh, my band's playing this weekend with like three other bands.

They would just be like in a basement. And there was just this like sweat dripping off the ceiling and everyone was like just in it together. And it was like this one. cohesive body of people just like partying and raging and like just listening to music. And then there's always been in like electronic music like almost this like separation aspect where it's like

the artist is on stage and there's this like untouchable figure that's like oh they're so far out of reach. They're jumping up and down right? Yeah, they're jumping up and down. Maybe they're like doing some more waves. Yeah. Yeah, they're like high five the crowd and stuff. But like they're not like like that was what like rock was like

you're like crowd surfing. You're jumping in like it's like it's just. energy and it's like shared between you and the performer and so I've always wanted to try to like get my courage up to do that as well I feel like that takes a lot of courage too but then also like replicate that for myself so the name of the band I was looking for I find it is fanagram it's fanagram yeah yeah I was there to see them I ended up also seeing big baby drum who's hilarious and like amazing singer and just all around cool dude and then yeah I saw gris and I was like this is what happens, right, when, and I'm going to get crap for this, right? I feel like rock is kind of like

in decline. Like, I don't feel like there's like any big rock bands anymore. Like rock bands just aren't really like a thing. Uh, it was like mainstream right. Uh, but I saw this guy gris and I'm like, this is what happens when like a band kid once again, it's like EDM, right? Yeah. And it's just like the craziest stuff. It's so good. There's now the kid is, um, his name's Haywire. He's another Canadian artist. Um, works with a label called Monster Cat out here in Vancouver. and then now he's kind of branching out doing other things. But he's the same thing like, classically trained pianist in a way that it's like,

you can tell like his whole life was devoted to the piano. And now he combines that with his electronic music production. And it's like so it's like such intelligent music. But because he also mastered the craft of production, that like combination between the two is it's like highly produced, like it's like producer porn jazz music almost, if that makes sense. And you listen to it and you're just like, whoa.

And then he'll go and play a show and he'll be like jamming out on the keys. And it just blows your mind. You're like, yeah. But the classic case of like a band kid that like study piano and probably, you know, people probably didn't think it was cool then. But now they're like, wow. Is this a Haywire also known as Air Crow? Is that the same person?

I'm trying to find him on Spotify right now as we're talking. Oh, Haywire is H-A-Y. Like, hey and then W-Y-R-E. Yeah, and that's what I spell. But I also got Hobson's album. and I don't like Hobson. Interesting. Let's see.

I was going to search EDM. I was going to search EDM see what I find. Oh, wait. You said W-Y-R-E? H-A-Y-W-Y-R-E. Okay, that's why. I got spelled it incorrectly. I was just trying to spell like a regular person

would spell it. There we go. Okay, cool. Yeah. Yeah. That's awesome. Yeah, I think the production is definitely something that, like, is almost, I don't know that's like a lost art,

but it's definitely something that, like, I think people, you know, don't, don't really get into. Like, I've been, like, rewatching the same, like, Dr. Dre and, like, Jimmy, I've been documentary for, like, the past, like, a year and a half. I don't know why I keep watching that one. It's the, it's called the Defiant Ones. It's basically a big ad for, like, beats at the very end. But they go through, like, the story of, like, Dre and, like, Jimmy.

And, like, one of the things that, like, to keep talking about is just, like, the production aspect of, like, the stuff they were doing. And I think that, like, having that back in production and, like, just how to a, arrange like a track and like, you know, create an album is like so, so important, which I think like right now is going to getting lost because especially right now, like we have such a big culture around singles and just like, here is the song. And I feel like people forgot about the album, right? Like the overall like body of work that like this song feeds into.

Yep. And that's something that like admittedly we're trying to do with my project as well is like getting ready to do the record, like do the full album project. because I think a lot of people jump into that and because of like how commercialized, you know, dance music and just music in general has become over the years and with access to platforms like Spotify where like the average joke can put out a song

and get lucky and have it go through like an algorithmic playlist series that then gets it millions of plays and suddenly they're making revenue off their music and they're like, oh cool, I should do an album and they just like throw together this disjointed collection of 10 records and you can hear that. As someone who like grew up listening to albums, I'm sure you can hear it.

Yeah. Like, this album doesn't make sense. It's like there's no story. There's no continuity. Like, it's all over the place. Like, I don't listen to it as an album. I hear it as like 10 signals put together as an album. Um, so like it's about, yeah, like, I think giving yourself the time, like, the honesty

to know that you're ready to put the album together and do that and like have the subject matter and have the team and have like, if you're going to work with other writers, have consistent writers that like vibe with your brand and vibe with your message. Um, and then like the sound and everything. but I definitely agree that it's like it's all about the single these days. Yeah, and that's actually one of the reasons why I love listening and collecting records is because it's definitely more than just the music. It's more than just the song.

It's like a whole like artistic type of experience, right? Like first thing, first thing is the artwork, in my opinion. Like if you don't have like an awesome cover for your album, like I already deduct like a point. Yeah. Yeah, you got to have a cool cover, you know, then you got to have like a, probably like a cool looking, like sleeve or something. And even the records, like some of them look pretty cool. So that's cool. I like hearing that the younger generation is trying to, you know, bring back that whole experience because it's, you guys are right.

Like, it's all about just like the quick, you know, 30-second ringtone nowadays. And you feel kind of bad. The ringtone. You guys like the phone calls the heck. You guys like ringtones? Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. Well, I remember that, like, the first time you could customize your ringtone on your cell phone.

Yes. And you're like, I'm going to show people how cool my music selection is. And you let it ring for just a little while longer. Like, oh, you're hearing that? Yeah, that's me. Yeah. I used to, I used to say my voicemail of that. I would, like, get on, like, K or Q and play, like, whatever, like, AIFI songs in radio.

And I'm like, you know, it just would be like, you know, I can't think of the song atop my head, right? but it's like, you know, I'm not okay. Hey, what's up? This is Dennis. You miss me. You know, but if you want to leave a message, you know, leave your name and number after the beep. See you later, guys, you know.

Peace out. Like pure analog. You're like controlling the volume on the record player. And then you turn it down. Yeah, what's up? Yeah. Just so casual. Caught me in my natural element.

Sorry about that. Yeah. I'm just hearing doing cool things. I feel bad for like, like, because I don't know about you. I haven't like, because, I mean, if you graduate.

graduated high school in 99, like, that was, your portable music was probably like cassettes at that time, was it not? Oh, no, CDs actually in the 90s. Yeah. That's a lot. Yes, cassettes and eight tracks. Yeah. But I mean, I did, you know, buy tapes for a long time.

Like, yeah. Like, I remember the very first tape I bought was Beastie Boys, Licensed to Ill. Licensed to Ill. Yeah. I was like six or seven years old, and I bought it. because of Brass Monkey. Yeah. And I used to, me and all my friends, we've too seen Brass Monkey.

And, like, second and third grade had no idea what the heck it was about. Brass monkey. Yeah. But, yeah, tapes are actually making a comeback, too, along with records. Really? Yeah. There's, like, a whole, like, I think it's because, you know, honestly, I think it's because people are kind of bored with streaming.

Like, I think last year was the first year that record, like, record, like album sells vinyl, sold more than CDs. And that's pretty amazing when you think about it. Because it's like, who the heck has a record player nowadays, right? It's like kind of invited by Urban Outfitters. Yeah, exactly. Target sells records. The reason why people are getting in the vinyl again is because there's an experience with vinyl that you don't get with like CD or like tapes. First off, tapes are just like the most inconvenient form until listening music ever because you get to rewind the thing afterwards, right? And that's just like really, really dumb. And if you're going to do that, it is. It is the most convenient way to share music, though.

That's what's cool about tapes is you would record your albums and make mixtapes for your homeies. You know, here's like my 10 favorite songs of the month or whatever. I don't know, man. People would do that all the time. I was blessed to have like a CDR drive in my old computer, right, that had the drive base. I'll burn my CDs, you know, maybe just next level, right? Next volume two. Privilege.

Yeah. I mean, that's literally the same idea. Yeah, it's just, you know. It's just the old school way of doing it. Yeah, my generation did it with tapes. Dennis did it with CDs, but yeah. But there was. Same idea.

Is that experience that I was going to say that it's like lost now was like walking into the record store, like walking into like an HMV and like going through the aisles and going to like, yeah, like the rock section or like the punk section and like just browsing through CDs and like literally what you were saying, like looking at album covers and being like, whoa, that looks cool. Like that caught my eye. I'm going to put it up. You pull out a little pamphlet and it has that like smell, like that like weird kind of like coated paper that has this like this.

I don't know. It's like the smell of nostalgia. It sounds awesome. I love that. You'd flip through and you'd like look at photos of the band in the studio like their press shots like out like on a stairwell like stacking and like you know, they'd have like a couple blurbs about the records and like what they mean to them. And then you would decide whether or not you wanted to buy that album and like take the shot and see if the music was good. And sometimes it was crap.

and you regretted the decision, but other times you discovered your new favorite artist. And you were like, yeah. And I remember I would also read through the liner notes, and I would write down all the bands and musicians they would name, like, you know, thank you to so-and-so. And I would like write him down and make sure, okay, next time I go to the record store,

I got to look up this band. And it's not like that anymore. Now it's like, I guess you can, you know, listen in on people's Spotify streams through Discord, which is not quite the, same experience but same but it is cool to hop in and like listen to them but like but listen with them and i'll do sometimes like i'll just hop in on someone's and like hey man that's a cool song what what you're listening yeah yeah what was the first uh i guess album or city you got uh mr fair

I'm trying to think there's a few that I know for sure that I like really listen to like back in junior high I really liked gobb and I really liked uh Billy Talent was like a Canadian band that got pushed are you guys remember with Billy Talent at all I think I think I've heard the name yeah I've seen the name also Gob as well I am more familiar with Gobb So I think that was like the perfect example of like CanCon it's called is like in Canada we have It's called CanCon which is Canadian content. It's like the cool kid version of Canadian content to call it CanCon But you call it Cancon and it's like every day the Canadian like you call like the music like the industry in Canada like whether it's radio TV Whatever streaming platform has to support a certain amount of Canadian content to like they have to meet a quota to keep their license and so

Billy Talent was a perfect example of CanCon where like across Canada they were huge like everybody knew Billy Talent but then you go to America and some people were like I think I've heard of them but like I don't really know but I remember like they came on there was a music video on MTV that came on for try honesty and it was like the first time I'd ever heard of them and I was like well this is cool and I went and like bought their CD and then like went through and like listened to the whole CD and that was kind of like yeah like okay I'm going to start listening to album Because up until then, it was always like, you know, you'd burn CDs kind of like what you were saying. It was like you would kind of, you know, what was it?

Napster had come around and like Morpheus. And you could like download like one song that took like five days. And you're like, man, and you could make a compilation of like Blinklin 82 rec songs and like whatever else you wanted to put together. Yeah, like you said like your five, your 10 favorite songs that you could listen to. But then, yeah, it was almost like I went through that first and then started buying the albums and like discover. like that art of listening all the way through. So like I had that Billy Talent record that I listened to a billion times. And then, you know, I had like a couple of Chili Peppers records that I was listening to.

I remember like you get to like Californication and you just listen to that over and over again. And then I started getting more into like the metal stuff. And there was like this band Lamb of God that I listened to all the time because of the guitar playing. I think that was what got me into like the guitar aspect of music because they had these rifts and these solos and things that I was like, who are these guys? Like, this is nuts. And so that was kind of like, yeah, that was my, my album experience. My first album ever that I bought with my own money, not ones that my parents bought me, about with my own money was limp biscuits, hot dog flavored water. Thanks. Yeah. What was it? I feel like all of these albums were like hot dog theme somehow,

weren't they? I'm not sure. Let me see. Limp Biscuit. I just like have this distinct memory of him I was like referencing hot dogs and stuff there were just some hungry dudes I'm just somebody just love hot dogs no uh seems to be another three dollar bill y'all

oh my god so cringy mental aquedoc significant demos in hell uh chocolate starfish and hot dog flavored water they did a one after that I think before they got like canceled for for being blamed for that that woodstock thing

or whatever that was. That album had Rowland on, right? I think Roland was in the, I was maybe on the album before. Let me see. No, no, no, it did. That song was lit, dude. I don't care what it says.

That song still gets me hyped up. We were, I don't know why. I've got a younger brother and the two of us will like randomly just like, we'll be sitting in the room with our family and we'll just like start playing music on our phones and it'll always be some like out of the blue throwback. And the last time I was in Calgary visiting, it was Limp Biscuit.

And he put on my way or the highway. And then we just like went through a Limp Biscuit listening spree for like 20 minutes. And my mom's like, what are you listening to? But like we were so hyped on this stuff. I was like, I remember listening to this. Like, yeah, like getting pumped up as a 15 year old kid. Like I could go and just lift a thousand pounds. Like I'm so energized right now by Limp Biscuit.

Let's do it, guys. There you go. Instrumental is only here because we don't want to get tagged Yeah You've seen Fred Dirst TikTok He has a TikTok? Yeah

That's pretty funny He's been doing He's doing TikToks with that guy Like PD USA and stuff right? PDA USA Yeah It's like really weird dry humor that makes no sense He was like in a tarp or something

He was like wrapped up in like a blue tarp. Yeah, and it was like, Fred Durs. It was like, when's the first thing is. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, my God.

Fred Ders is such a, he's such a character, too. You guys are really interesting. Such a weird guy. Yeah. I, I really do think that he was like,

he was like super, super scapegoated too. Like, I think he, he got blamed for some stuff that necessarily wasn't really his fault. I think he might have contributed to, yeah,

I mean, because of him, because of him, people wear their hat backwards, man. Exactly. Yeah. He's started a movement, Rebel Rouser. He's like, you wear the hat backwards and just put sunglasses on. Okay.

There's one of the questions. We got any community questions for you, a lot of other questions here. So something I see here. Okay. Who, sorry, I got lost in the sauce there for a minute. Now I'm like, what are we doing now? We're talking about limp biscuit? What?

Before we get into the community questions, can I ask one more question? Absolutely. No, I'm so good down the list, Ivan. I think we got time. Unless you're pressed for time. I never scheduled to 11, but if you're down to go longer, it's up to you, man. I'm chilling. All right, cool.

Let's do it. Okay, so the next one is what are some of your biggest musical influences? So, yeah, I think, like, drawing on those earlier records, like Alexis on fire, definitely. that was like they just had those like guitar riffs like and that was like the 44 caliber love letter straight to my heart like that like opens up the record like that stuff was so cool to me um and then like I said like taking those like non-complex guitar riffs and then just like building them into these big energetic records and then on like the opposite of that like the kind of like the lamb of god style guitar playing. That was like what got me into playing guitar. And then in terms of dance music,

it was honestly like as cliches is to say like, you know, back when I was 19 and like Avici was starting to come out with his like club hits. And they just had these like, rest and piece. Unbelievably cheesy but catchy leads that like you just couldn't deny where like I mean, at least myself. I was like, he's are amazing. I feel like that's the hallmark like EDM the right. It's having that like that one line and that one song and it's like, everybody repeats over and over and like that's just that's the song, right? And then the and everything just feeds into that line, you know? Yeah. I think that that was kind of like EDM for a very long time was like just the four on the floor club kicks and then like that like

I just want to go home with you with you with and they just like repeat that the whole yeah, yeah, it'd be over and over again. And then you had like, you know, people start to come forward with like quote unquote like artist projects like you know like a porter robinson would come out and he's like decides like i'm going to like break free from the club like you know club kick electro music and i'm going to make like this weird like japanese infused electronic melodic hybrid stuff and that was like whoa and then you had like guys like seven lions come out with like melodic dubstap and then it was like blending these like really soft beautiful vocals these like big wavy electro like melodic And that was sort of like, okay, that's really cool.

You know, then you had guys like Zed's Dead that were kind of coming in, referencing more of like the rock stuff with like some of their vocals and then, you know, having these really weird wubby drops you've never heard before. And it just like, it was really cool to see how it like progressed and then constantly was redefined. Of course, like Scrillix coming out too. Like, I was just about to ask like, where does Screlex fall into that? Because no, like, I've never heard a dubstep until he started doing his stuff.

Right. And then that one, that, you know, that, that one out. album with the green cover right like we all know what I'm talking about comes out and like that's all I heard forever and I don't even remember if he even liked it I think it just liked like the feeling right just how hard like that that went so what he did that was super different was like so he came out like he also came from like an emo background like he was in a band called from first to last and that was sort of like his yeah it was like i think 2008 or 2009, I saw like on a YouTube upload his scary monsters and nice sprites. And then he had an EP

that came out with that that was like that record plus this other one that was called like Slat, Slat, Slats. And then with you, my friend and like two other songs. And they were these like really obscure like, yeah, like dubstep records that had these like kind of like glitchy eight bit melodies in between that was like, okay, this is really cool. And then we started coming out with his more recent stuff for like, I guess you could see like three years later. He was really. of the first dubstep guys to make like a dubstep drop that you could almost like sing along to if that makes sense like it had these like very vocal like whoa whoa whoa where you would like recreate it it with your mouthball listening to it you're like oh that was cool you would like get that stuck in your

head and you're like why do I have a dubstep drops up in my head and like that's I think where he really pushed the boundaries and redefine the genre and then just took it from there and now he's just like a grandfather act that's like yeah go my children like go and you know carry on my work but like he's laid down the foundation for sure you guys seen that that key and peel skit about dovstep that's like the funniest thing because that's actually how i first i think reacted when i first heard that music that's little sound you made that whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa i remember like going through my body like what the heck is this feeling it's so weird well and then you loud for the first time at like a live show with like a pk sound system or

something and it just hits you in the chest and it's just yeah that's right actually that's right i don't know where i think that was uh i want to say it was new year's eve like 2000 and six downtown l.a they had like this like giant like rave thing but they had the killer i went to go see the killers the killers the killers were playing but they had like hold up well hold which out of the killers which album of the killers this is like when the killers first came out. Okay. Because that's the only good one.

I'm saying it. That's the only good album. Yeah. But yeah, so it was like the killers plus like all these like, you know, DJs like Paul Oaken Fold and whatnot. And I remember this one guy who just playing Dupstep, but I had never heard that music before in my life. And I remember feeling it through my entire body.

And it was just like the weirdest thing because if you watch that King Peel video, I just dropped it in the chat. That's literally how I felt. Or each time to drop hits it like catches you and you're just like, whoa. Like, yeah, like, yeah. Okay. I'll get pack of lacking.

I love it. I love it. I mind if I put on some music? I do not. Yeah. I do not. So it's a new dubstep. It always goes down.

What is? I don't know what that is. Oh, dude, you're going to love it. Oh, cool. Cool, man. Great for the drop. I'm sorry, the drop. Drop.

There's like twitching around like, oh, I'm doing it. What is this? It's so good. Yeah, I think by any of it, they're like nose bleeding and stuff. It blood coming out their ears and whatnot. So good. It's so good, yeah. So do you feel like, and there's something that I've been thinking up for for a while regarding dance music, right?

Do you feel like the term EDM is kind of like made it harder for an artist to do EDM? without just being slapped like that, like that giant label, right? Because you think about like you got rock, right? You got punk, you know, you have metal. And even like within metal, you know, you have metal, hair metal, black metal, right? Death metal, metal, metal, whatever, you know, power metal, you know. I feel like when people talk about EDM and I say, yeah, I listen to EDM, okay, I go, okay, cool.

But like, what kind? Because like, you're talking about this kind. I don't, I don't mess with you. We're not friends anymore. But if you're talking about this kind, I can jam with you in the car where we're driving the Vegas for like five hours. Yep. It's,

I think it started out that way where like EDM was more specific. Like, I think it was like, if you listen to EDM, you either listen to like, like dubstep or you listen to like some variation of progressive house. Like, yeah,

you grew up, like you would watch like proximity on YouTube and like, check out their latest upload and it would be like some Dallas K or like, you know, Danic remix of something. Yeah. That was like what EDM was.

And then, you know, it was like the kids that were going to the raves and they would like go and watch the DJs. That was like the EDM community. Whereas now I feel like EDM has grown. I feel like it's used more to just like, it's a tough question to answer.

Yeah. Like it's used to like categorize like just like electronically produced records. But within EDM like you said, like there's just so many different genres now that have come from it. Where it's like you've got like low-fi EDM, you've got just like tech house EDM, you've got progressive house EDM, you've got melodic base, hard-based, you know, dubstep,

rhythm, dubstep. like they literally have like death core dub step you've got like all these different things so i think that like it's kind of like almost like the un like to the observer that isn't part of that community it would be like like like you listen to like you say like metal you should like oh he's a metal kid but it's like said there's like six variations seven variations of what metal can be to you and they all dress differently too right like they all dressed in me but like to the unsclaimed eye they all dress the same you're just like oh it's a metal kid long hair or whatever but it's like each kid has their like specific way of identifying with their like subgenre within that community.

So I think that's like a little bit of what's happening in EDM where it's like, it's like maybe like we'll call like the older generation. It's like, oh, those EDM kids. But it's like within that community, there's like so many different variations of what EDM can be. With their candy bracelets and all that all that. Their plur. Yeah. Because like when I was growing up, one of the things that I like listened to a lot and I didn't even

realized was a lot of like a yo dance and uh in a trance you know so like you know like a like a you know like a you know like a like a lasgo or like a g uh g gd losino like like groups like that um testo i think was like in that in that same armin armin van buren yeah yeah like all these like yeah that was yeah that was yeah that was kind of like that was like a nice introduction i'd say to to to edm and like dance music because trance is still like very pretty Yeah. It's not like super abrasive. It doesn't like cut into your soul and make your ears bleed like it might to some people.

To me it's just like pure serotonin, right? It's like give me all the happy vibes right now with them. Exactly. You know, yeah, hard hitting stuff because I just want to, I was going to float and be your little butterfly samurai. Yeah. I feel like whenever I listen to trans do, I have this urge to drive somewhere really fast. I don't know if you get that. Yes.

It's good driving music. Yeah. Yeah. Just makes you want to accelerate. at like five or 10, you know, miles per hour quicker than I'm going currently. Like, the trans kicks in. And I'm like, okay, yeah, let's get this party going. Let's speed this up a little bit.

Yeah, I remember there was a summer or maybe like a month or two or listen to this Japanese group called the M-O-V-E. They're the ones who did like the soundtrack for an initial D. So it was like that sound across like 20 albums. And I'm pretty sure every song was pretty much about the same thing, right? but like just a pure album nothing but that music you just you literally can't stop it's just like your mind's going a million miles a minute yeah yeah you're just fired up you don't know why you're so excited but you're excited yeah about the drift right now on some train tracks let's do it

but um i'm curious how when you're not like you know playing an instrument um are you what kind of computers are you using to actually make music so i am on just a MacBook Pro, which is, I think, like, a huge shame because it's like, it's Dennis swears by that laptop. It's a good laptop. He keeps telling me to get one. I used to use it to produce the podcast and stream. Yeah.

It just gets super hot. Yeah, it heats up. And like, don't get wrong. Like, I think the portability aspect of it is amazing. And, like, I have like a whole external set up here. So, like, I built the desk and then I. plug my laptop in and it's tucked away to the side and then I've got like an external display and a mouse and keyboard. So it almost acts like a desktop, but like I was traveling a lot when

I first got started. Like I was going down to California for like, you know, two, three months at a time to go do sessions and write. And then, you know, I'd fly back home to visit my family and come back to Vancouver. And like I just like to have that portability on my computer. But I feel like a big aspect that I've missed out on over the years is having like a gaming rig to actually like play video games because that's something like I honestly stopped playing video games after high school when I was playing like modern warfare four on the PS3 like that was like I would play for out like I would just like I pull all nighters and just play warfare and I was like it was so much fun and then I just never kept up with the console jumps and I never had a gaming rig like for like a

computer and so especially in the music community like everyone's a gamer and it's really cool and it's Like, you see like all these like collaborations and friendships blossoming from gaming. And it's like, it sounds almost counterintuitive for my manager to be like, I need you to get a gaming computer and start playing video games more. Like, because that's where you're going to make these like partnerships and like make these new friendships with people that transcend beyond that. And he's like, if you join it genuinely enjoy gaming, like I almost encourage it a little bit to like get back in and do that.

So in the next little bit, I think I'm going to build a gaming rig. Also because I'm noticing, like you said, Dennis, like, my computer gets pretty hot sometimes. It's a little scary when I'm like running up to like the end of a project file and I've got like 200 layers and my CPU's hovering at a pleasant 95%. And it's like you can hear this thing just like screaming at you like, I'm on the brink of death and I'm like one of these days it's going to just it's going to go kaput and I'm going to lose on my work. I heard Apple yesterday they said they couldn't delay their next MacBooks because it can't get chips. Really? Yeah. Well, there you go. That's even more. My follow-up question to you was going to be about video games. I was curious if, well, you already answered it, but I was curious if you were playing any video games on that laptop of yours or anything else. But I just recently,

like I always really liked the God of War games like for PlayStation Network. That was my big one. because I had like in my dorm room in university I had like a PS2 that I dug out from like a pawn shop and so I went and replayed like God of War I one and two and then God of War three came out on the PS3 when I was in like second year university and then recently that God of War four game came out but I've always really liked games with like a story that I can follow along like that and I've always really enjoyed like the Greek mythology and North mythology and so the way that they like tied that in to the video game I thought was really cool. And it's just like, it's just so cinematic.

Whereas I found that recently, like when I've tried to jump back into shooters, like I tried playing Fortnite for a day and I was way too late to that. And everyone was so good. And I was just getting roasted. And I was like the learning curve is just like, like even when I compared it to like Modern Warfare 4 when I was, you know, 16 years old. And it was very intuitive. It was like there's like five maps.

You learned the maps. And you could like run around and just shoot each other. And now you play like the Call of Duty model warfare games. Maybe this is probably me sounding like an idiot. But like there's just like so much more detail in those maps and like so many new corners and places people could go. And so many new features and upgrades and all these things that I was just like, I can't keep. I felt so old for a moment. I was like I cannot keep up with this at all.

Yeah, Fortnite especially bad. Like there's some kids that can play Fortnite with their thumbs. Yeah. know like literally and that's impossible for me like I've seen kids like literally play on their phone like yeah getting headshots and it's just ridiculous man on their iPad you find out that they're seven years old and they're just like born for this like they're the champion hardwired into their brain yeah are you clicking tennis I was gonna let this ride somebody said something I was I was I was really viable on that one that was great

You'll keep flipping back and forth because I know Ivan's got the background on his camera from Yeah The shining And like when I originally popped in like it cut so seamlessly that I legit thought that he was like at the end of a hallway and like a hotel room Like a hotel building or something I'm just like expecting people to come in and out of the rooms and I'm like Yeah, I just feel so exposed with that much like open hallway behind me I got a background for you then Yeah like I recently rewatch this movie and as I was watching it I was just like man

And that's how I feel. Like, I feel like I'm going crazy in my room. So I changed my background, I think on Monday. And it's interesting to me how many people know that movie. I didn't think that many people actually watch The Shining. What? It's like one of like most famous movies in the world. What are you talking about?

I know. I've never really talked about it though with other people. Like I never knew how like, I guess I know it's popular. I just never knew like how popular. I never really talked about it. with people but yeah people definitely know that movie and watch it so it's cool i love that movie yeah it was one of the like very well done psychological thrillers that didn't need like a high budget cg i you know like it was just done very tastefully yeah there's like a lot of a hidden

imagery in the movie too if you're into that sort of stuff yeah they're like notes to other things or like yeah that like it's like meant to like subconsciously throw you off a little bit Oh, there you go. Attack on Titan, baby. I changed my background, too. I am literally at the wall right now. I'm wanting for an attack. Just waiting for the attack.

I just caught up on season four. I was shaming myself because I stopped mid-season three of Attack on Titan. I started kind of like, I'm not going to, I won't talk about it in case there's people that don't want spoilers or anything. But it was like rated like the political segment of the show. And I watch anime when I'm falling asleep. Like, that's literally all I want. watch is anime. And it because something about the Japanese language is so soothing and comforting to me that it like puts my mind at ease and I just fall asleep. Speaking my language. Yeah, but even though they're like,

yeah, but even though they're like screaming and dying, I'm like falling asleep to attack on Titan, like, ah, so peaceful. But I started dozing off like rate in the midst of all like the political plot. And so I got lost and then my roommates were we were all watching at the same time. They were all like ahead and I couldn't catch up and I got frustrated and so I put the show aside for like three years and then now they've all watched up to like midseason break in season four. I'm like you got to watch it man and so for three days straight I just binged it and watched everything and was like blown away by the last little bit there. So highly recommend that show to like everybody now. That's funny because I actually fell asleep during season two like near the half end because it was just

a lot of talking in the trees in the woods and the thing was happening. And season three, I thought was interesting because, like, I really liked the whole political aspect of it. And it's like, you know, like, there's a Titans and Titans are cool, but it's like, what's happening inside the walls and, like, how are, you know, how is the government structure? Because you didn't really get any of that ant stuff. And then it kind of almost became like Game of Thrones for like a minute, you know,

like people are backstabbing each other. And it was like epic plots being like, you know, like weaved into everything. Yeah. Yeah. So, like, I was, I was happy for a break. the, let's just talk about, you know, some random thing that isn't really explained yet and use a lot of pronouns that aren't expressed, you know? Yeah.

What will they think? I'm like, who the hell is they? Just say the name, please. Just say the name. What are you to do that for? Give me something, man. Yeah, it's season two, bro. I'm like 40 episodes in here.

Yeah, right. Give me some information. That pay off. So that actually kind of leads me to a follow-up question on the fun section. When are we getting another anime music video? When are we doing one? Yeah. I saw the narrative one.

When's the next one coming up? So that's actually what I've been doing. So I've found a kid on Instagram. And it's so cool that like there's all these like you just find these little hidden gems that are like I guarantee. I don't know anything about him. But all I know is that he's like, yeah, I charge like 50 bucks for an AMV. And his edits are insane. And so I was getting stuff ready for live shows because shows are slowly kind of.

and so I'm getting him actually to do AMV edits to all the songs that I'm playing in my sets and I want to use AMVs as visuals during my live shows. Just because I feel like anime paired with the right anime and the right segments paired with the right song is like there's just like an undeniable magic to it. I don't mean music videos was like peak internet for a minute where like if you, weren't watching anime music videos. If you were watching Lincoln Park with like Dragon Ball Z in the background, like you weren't doing YouTube right, you know? And I feel like, yeah, I don't know what happened to that, but it almost was like a lost art, right? Of like mixing,

like something from anime to the most American music you possibly can. Yeah, like heavy rock music. Yeah. Like with Dragon Ball Z in particular, I think what it did that was so cool for me was like, it'll take like you know gohan's battle against cell when he goes to like super sane two for the first time and that's like stretched over eight episodes and it condenses it into this like two minute mega hype edit that just like gives you the whole fight with cool music and you're just like yo this is awesome I want more of this and then yeah you'd go and like find more of them and someone back then someone was like I really loves anime but you know what it really needs limp biscuit and corn yeah yes

That'll make it perfect. That's what it's missing right now, is it needs a little bit more hot dog flavored water. And this anime will be perfect to me. Yeah. But no, definitely, like, we've actually just gone through, like, a complete rebrand. Just like, I mean, if I'm being completely honest,

like, in terms of TV and entertainment, like, that's basically all I've been watching recently, like for the last two years. I'm on episode. So I went through the full Naruto, and now I'm on episode 700 of One Piece. trying to catch up on that which has been a full

two year endeavor of like it's just endless and there's like so much and then also trying to catch up on attack on Titan you know I'm just started watching demons slayer with my girlfriend the other day

like there's just like so many to catch up with I've wanted to get rid of one piece so that I can have that off my chest and just just quit it I think yeah I think once you you you break the barrier of just quitting a show

everything becomes so much easier because I cannot finish Naruto because of all the filler and I do not want to go through and do this like weird So like watching anime especially something as old as like Naruto is so difficult because every platform

that has it organizes the episodes It's such a wonky way That's almost impossible to like To follow a guide So like if I just get lost I'm just not gonna watch it right I'm just gonna like you're already making this way too difficult

You know I don't want to repeat a full model alchemist, right? Just give me the brotherhood version and then I'm good, right? Yeah, yeah, just give me brotherhood. And it's like, we're good to go. But yeah, so that's, that's kind of what we're trying to do, though, is like really cross over those two worlds. And so, like, we're rebranding Fairlane, really trying to tie in a lot more of like the Japanese animation style in terms of like the artworks. You should totally dress like Andrew Dice Clay when you perform, dude. Yeah. You imagine. Actually, like Fort Fairling comes out to D. DJ.

That'd be awesome. Just have it be like a nonstop cosplay. That actually be kind of sick. So with that rebrand, does it also include like the outfits that you're going to be wearing on stage? Like are you going to be wearing like a, a Higa hoodie or whatever

and like just going nuts? Maybe. I think like it's more than I think from like from myself, it's like a color scheme. Like I've always really liked like the content. between soft pinks and blacks just because there's like I don't know I just feel like it's it's always been like very aesthetically pleasing to me like the cherry blossoms with like you know like

a dark backdrop or something in the way they kind of like really pop out um so I like personally when I the way I dress is always like usually like we're in like a light color and a dark color like over like black pants with like a light pink hoodie or like you know like light pink shoes and then black pants and black top and like just like always trying to mix in that contrast um I found that usually when my hair starts growing longer too, it starts to look like an anime character as well. I'm just slowly draw off of that. But no, definitely like trying to mix in a lot of the visual aspects from like

AMV edits and just like have like the artworks and things kind of like match up with the story as being told in the music. No, I just realized this. And I think that the origin of the anime music video comes from Tunei. Do you remember those like edits to these to do with like the lofi music and the background and they would have cuts of the shows that they were that they were showing at the time. I think Dreams is the one that I remember, but I think something like that is like, you guys should definitely do.

I don't play this correctly. I'm playing the wrong thing. Let me throw it up on here instead. That's going to blow everyone's ears out. But yeah, for those who haven't seen this, this is like a classic. So Tsunami used to have these like these like bumpers in the middle of. other segments, whether they just play like some cool music. I don't know where they got it from.

And then they would splice it in with like the animas they were showing at the time. Or sorry, the anime, the anime. Animas. And this is like, I don't know, this like put me in like some feels. Like I don't know what it was, but like I feel like they were like speaking directly to me. I'm like, damn, man, you know, like I want to dream. I don't be dreamer. It's like achieve my goals and go to space.

Is that a Jojo reference? Yes. courage. It's Joe Drew. Yes. Jojo is good. You should watch Joe Joe. So the Chad's asking.

I'm going to wait for community questions time. I'm just going to say it. Watch Jojo. It's a very good show. I haven't even finished it and I know it's amazing. But yeah, so questions, actually speaking to which we have some community questions. Unless Ivan wants to ask anything off the list here, but I think we kind of got all the good ones. I was interested in the...

I learned to ask the computer question, but he already asked that. The other question I want to ask is why do you have something? I want to ask is why do you have so many videos of yourself shirtless? I was going through your YouTube and I feel like in every video you like don't have a shirt on at least one or two of like the segments. Oh, in my in the old vlog series. Yeah. So I had a friend from Edmonton move into our house here like this is like two years ago.

And he was like dude, we have to do like a vlog. So I did like one vlog trial where I filmed myself. And then he came on and was actually like filming and like editing them and putting them out on two before me. And he had this like knacked for just coming in and like interrupting my morning routine, which would usually be like, I'll come out of my room, which is just to my right here and my studios in this next room. And I would just like kind of like waltz out in my underwear. And I'll just like sit here and just kind of like work at my desk until I go and like eat breakfast and shower and get my day started. It's like me and Dennis. Yeah, exactly. And he just like come in with his camera and be like,

okay, we're vlogging. And I'm like, okay, I guess it's happening now. And so, like, a lot of the times it would just be me like, kind of like relax. And yeah, just like in my underwear, like just chill in. And he would just come in and be like, this is all going on the vlog. And I was like, there's like a special kind of person who just doesn't wear a shirt like casually, you know, like I can never do it.

I always have like a shirt on. Even if it's like a tank top or like a wife beater, I had to have something covering me. But I don't know if we can ever just like walk around. Here I am. Toplist, nothing on me, you know? I don't know. It's kind of, it's liberating. I like that.

It's like, especially when we transitioned, like, in the summer, it gets really nice here. We have, like, a big patio in the back that gets a lot of nice sun. And so, like, you'll just go outside and, like, sit outside shirtless and tan for a bit and come back in and go about your day. And, like, do you work out? Uh, not as much as I used to. Yeah, I know we could tell from the vlogs. Yeah. I'm, I'm in the middle of trying to get my beach body.

going. Yeah, it's all about I actually, for the first time in a long time, I weighed under 200 pounds this morning. There you go. Yeah, 199 baby. I'm liking that. I found the most successful thing that's worked for me because I noticed it like, I mean, I'm 30 now. Right around the age of 25s and my metabolism

really started to slow down. And I was like, oh, whoa, whoa, okay. I was like, you mean, I got to pay attention to what I'm eating now. like sheesh. Good sucks. But I found that honestly, I usually, I stay fasted until about 2 p.m. And then I'll eat between like 2 and 10 p.m. And I'll track my calories. Like I started off like tracking my meals so that I know kind of like a general idea of how much you're eating.

And I try and stay within like a consistent caloric window. And then if I do work out, I usually train about three times a week. So I found that like working out and then actually pushing myself. at the gym, but then giving myself a day in between allows my body to not like completely destroy itself each time because that's like the biggest thing for working out. I found a lot of people is they like jump in. They're like, I want to go to the gym five days a week. And then you wake up feeling like crap on the first day because you can't move.

And then you're like trying to get yourself to go again and you go again and you just like slowly beat yourself up. And then that's where it becomes difficult. Whereas I found just like a consistent maintenance of just like, yeah, maybe like three, four times a week, four max. And then just fasting and like kind of like. like monitoring how much a meeting has allowed me to stay like pretty much the same for about five years now. No wonder you walk around with your shirt off.

Yeah, man, I'm like the opposite. I'm like eating Doritos and whatnot. But that's your thing is that because I'm the same way as like the chip, for instance. If you look and you actually try to like track your caloric intake from chips and you're like, okay, 10 chips is considered like a serving size. It's like no one eats 10 chips. And they're like, hmm, that's it for me. I'm satisfied. It's like, no, I'm going to dummy this whole bag because they're delicious.

And that's what I want to do. You know? And it's like, it's almost impossible to like, to, yeah, to like mitigate the damages of Doritos. It's almost like disingenuous for them to put multiple servings in that bag and they expect you just eat like a portion of it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. I have a toddler and, you know, kids eat snacks. like all day long man so like i have like a you know basically like a cupboard just full of like cookies and chips and like juice boxes and whatnot and it's just like i give one to my daughter and i can't resist like i have to take a little dude's high seas hit right yeah man that's nice is laugh at right oh man so let's move on to the community questions so you can uh allow mr fair here to to relax and take a shirt off um first question first question is what's your favorite Mario tennis game from Nicole?

My favorite Mario tennis game? Yeah, I've never played one, actually. I don't think I've ever played one. I was going to say I hate to break the news, but yeah, I haven't really played Mario tennis. I was Mario Kart. I love the new Mario Kart 8 and Almbuds for the newer systems. I think they finally locked in the right drift system.

Like, as they started to introduce drifting in Mario Kart, it was a little bit glitchy and buggy. And then now in the more recent ones, I feel like they've done a good job with the drift. right next question the best games agree next question uh thoughts on virtual reality VR it

I love VR there's a new place I'm sure there's a few down in LA as well I know if they're pop I think they're everywhere but like the actual VR like game stops where you go and like they have like a full room devoted to VR and you do it with like multiple people and they have like the motion tracking and like sensory so you have like proper like depth perception

and there's a place that opened up here it's called zero latency that's like a full I'd say like almost like 60 feet by 40 foot room and the game is mapped to the dimensions of the room so like you're actually like

running and moving within the world of VR and it's so cool that in like five minutes you lose track of reality and it's like this becomes your new reality and now with like the ability to actually move within it you're so removed from the world outside

that you like completely forget get. I think that that's so fascinating to me. What are your thoughts on augmented reality? It's scary. It's like that's like, yeah, that's a future. I think that like with VR too and like, I think there was an experiment as a guy that did it on YouTube that was like he spent 48 hours in VR or something. Like he wore a headset for 48 hours and he noticed that when he took it off, he became so adjusted that he was actually like confused when he would pick up an object and the real world and his hand wouldn't go through it. Like, he'd like forgotten how to like interact with the real world for a day.

And then he like slowly had to readjust to the like to actual reality. Or so how however we perceive it, maybe we're all in a simulation. But like I think that like it's such a dangerous rabbit hole. It's like I think at like the perfect level of consumer friendly and like safety right now where it's like, okay, you can put on a headset, you can play like space pirates and shoot a of robots and like have a blast. But I think like 10 years from now, there's going to be that danger of people like preferring VR over their real world.

I already do. Yeah. Yeah. That's what kind of freaks me out about augmented reality is because we are already, we've already like brought that into our world and it's normal now. You know, like a game like Pokemon Go. Oh, yeah. I was just what to say.

Something like that, if you think about that, if that game would have came out, even 10 years ago we'd be freaking out. Yeah. You know, just like seeing a natural Pokemon in the real world. It's ridiculous. And what's scary about that is like it was like a beta like bunk version like where it was like you could like hold up your phone and you could like, you know, project the Pokemon on to like what the phone was seeing.

But it was like that version of the game brought all of humanity to a standstill for like a month in the summer. And like imagine if it was done on a headset with like glasses. where it was actually what you were seeing and how like addicting and like overpowering that would be. I just feel like people would lose themselves in it. It's scary.

Yeah. Yeah, I have an Oculus I think this is the regular old riff with the stupid stands or something on it. But yeah, when I when I played super hot, right, which is a pretty like physically like demanding game in the sense of like

get to like duck and dive and like you have to like move over and like dodge bullets and stuff like I was definitely like there's a moment where I was like I'm in this world I'm doing this thing I'm punching this guy out I'm chucking this knife right I'm shooting this gun it was it was it was it was pretty crazy yeah I never like that's cool I think that's really good if you can set a limit to that and like get tired and be like okay I'm done for the day and like take off your helmet and kind of like go back to it but I feel like there's going to be a point where it's like you could play the game then when you're done playing the game just exit the game and then still be in a VR world. Oh. Like, yeah, you can just like roll them around in. You're like, that's where I think that's where some crazy stuff's going to happen. Yeah. I think AR would be really good, though, for just like getting around the world, right? Like, like, especially like once, like we can, we can put him in like glasses that are like super like nice and easy to like use like, like, let the Google glass.

I don't know what happened to that thing, right? But just being able to like, you know, say I'm in like Japan and I want to, you know, where's the next ramen shop and he just tells you where to go and it puts like a little like guide for me. Flying on the ground. Or it like translates the wall so I can read the heck's going on. Like I think that's going to change the way that we communicate in such a crazy way that I'm kind of ready for it. You know, like, who needs to learn Japanese when, you know, it just does it in my brain and I just speak it. You know, like to me that's awesome. Yeah.

I'm ready to be part of the collective consciousness. Let's just do it. Like I'm not afraid of it. I'm over this life already. Beam me up, Scotty. I'm ready. Let's do it. We're going live, right?

Jack into the Matrix. The real Jake wants to know, what's your favorite flavor of G-fuel? Of G-fuel? Yeah. Powdered gamer drinks. Are you about it? I don't actually drink a lot of that.

No, I just, I've had to cut a lot of that stuff out. I noticed that I have like an unruly intolerance to caffeinated beverages and things of the sort where like I actually, so I did a session the other day with this guy, Katsunei. He's coming over today as well. We're going to wrap up this song. But he works in e-sports. So he actually manages a lot of professional World Warcraft players, Fortnite players for Cloud 9.

And so he has a lot of like Red Bull endorsements. And he asked me, he's like, do you like Red Bull? And I said, yeah, she showed up in my house yesterday. Like a flat of Red Bull. And he's like, yeah, he's like, I got to give this away. Like, I have way too much of it. And I drink. Throw it at people.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They're like, please, drink this, drink this. And I drank a Red Bull and I was, I had like anxiety. Like my body, like my hands were shaking. Like, I haven't had like a Red Bull or like I don't drink coffee or anything either. And so it's like, bro, you have zero to a hundred real quick.

Oh yeah. And I was sitting there. I was like, let's go. Like screaming at the computer like fingers jittering. And so it's funny. It's funny you say that because I had an experience yesterday with this. I drink coffee every day. Like I'm, I love coffee.

But yesterday I was cleaning my desk and I found this little. like G fuel sample. I don't know where I got it from. I don't know how long it was behind my monitor. It might be years, but I was like, oh, this looks interesting.

It was mango flavor. I like mango. So I drank it around noon. And a couple hours later, I caught myself, like, my leg, I just caught myself with my leg going like this,

like just up and down really fast. And I was like, what the heck is going on with my leg? And I was like, oh, yeah, I drank some, some, some, like, caffeine.

You were tweaking. You're literally, really tweaking. I was. Yeah. It's like, I mean, it's kind of, it's like the same thing to like pre-workouts and stuff too, whereas I used to like, you like take like pre-workout to go to the gym and stuff. And it has like beta alanine in it, which is meant to energize you. But then it also makes your face tingle and go numb. Yeah. And I was like, I don't know if this is like a good or bad thing. And I found that like I'd go in and I'd be like super energized and excited to be at the gym. And then I would start to feel kind of like sick and then would just crash later like I would just like pass out at 3 p.m.

Pretty sure that's a bad thing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's the best for me. So yeah. All right.

Next question is a favorite video game. Favorite video game? Yeah. So actually a throwback one. This is like one of the first games I ever really played was a game called black and white. It was on PC. Very good game. was something like, yeah, where you're like, you're a god and you play the whole game as a hand

and you like have the option throughout the game to be either like a good god or an evil god. And you, yeah, like, did you, you played it, Dennis? Yeah, yeah, way better. Yeah, you like, you like build villages and you have them worship you and you can set how long they worship you. And if you go completely evil, you can like resurrect them from the dead and have like an army of skeleton, uh, supporters that would just worship and not need food. But like, for some reason,

I just loved that game. And I would just like pick up rocks and just like throw rocks at buildings for forever. It was just like destroy villages. Yeah. That's a that's a Peter Malineau joint. So for for those who know who he is, that's the kind of games that he makes, you know,

that like Fable and I think some other stuff too. So he's definitely of like the God simulator, big brain thinking type of game, you know, where he kind of like tries to expand the possibilities. He almost always falls short. but the results of these projects are always really interesting. Like, Fable is still like a staple in gaming.

I think we're still waiting for like another really good fable. Yeah. I already said my story, my games, but I would say just to kind of repeat myself, Golden Sun will always hold a special place in my heart. That little GBA game will always have something for me, you know? It's just like, I think it's like one of the first JRPGs that I actually like bived with and that I like beat.

Never beat the second one though. The correct answer was Tetris. No. Tetris is the perfect game. You know why? There's no battle pass. How can you make it better? By adding a battle pass.

They haven't done it yet. Yeah. Where's my multiplayer battle pass squad gameplay on Tetris Ivan? I love Tetris. I can play Tetris all day. Where are my hero abilities? If it doesn't have it, it's not a great game, okay? Yeah.

Where's the building, right? I did play the new Pac-Man 99 game the other days. It was pretty cool. The new Pac-Man Battle Royale, interesting concepts. Pac-Man Battle Royale. Yeah, it was cool. Pac-Man VR. Let's see what else.

How do you go about making music? Do you start coming up with beats in your head, or do you just play around on a music app like F-Foul Studio until it sounds cool? Yeah, so I usually start all my music on guitar. So that's like where I have the easiest time translating ideas. It used to be that I would build like drum beats and then I would kind of like build something around that. Whereas more recently I found that I just kind of get concepts and melodies out a lot faster if I play them on guitar. And I'm fortunate that usually I'm working with a vocal as well.

So like I'll have a vocalist send me something and then I build a record around that. So it already kind of has like a composition to it that I kind of follow and build up. But I work in Ableton as well. So I've found that it's really good just for like building loops and getting concept started. All right. Min, I think you know this person. Min wants to know where are you right now, USA or Vancouver. Back in Vancouver.

Why is Yoshoki? I've been doing to answer that. why is yoshoki which is me by the way that's that's my own my tag is chokies that is choky's never existed to me i i killed joshoki when he when uh when joshoki took over the nzzixt twitter account i've been killed it because he's a bully that's what happened what happened was there's a really funny story he's like when

dennis first started uh working here third month i think or something yeah he was here for like working for like a month and like the first of the first dumb thing he ever did. Well, not dumb. It was just an accident. I wish there were many, right? I wasn't mad or anything like that. It was just like, seriously, you really did that?

But anyway, he somehow changed the NZXT name to Yoshoki. And yeah, like I was like on Twitter. And I was like, why the heck is our name Yashoki? And he was trying to change my personal account and yada, yada, yada. So from that moment on, I just told them, you know what? Yashoki's dead to me. You're missing a lot of context, right? So what happened was that I changed my personal Twitter account to something that was like Den ZXT or something like that, right?

I forget it was. But the name I was trying to choose was taken by someone already. So I added like a number or an underscore or something, right? Which is a pretty normal thing on the internet to do, right? To add like your underscore or something on your name because the actual act doesn't matter. What matters is like the display name, right? Like no one really cares that much. But I mean as a kind of person who will bully you over the dumbest, smallest thing.

He'll find one small thing that's something that like that's super small picture, you know, bully over it. So he started bullying me over this over the course of like two days. He's like, if you have a name in your number, a number of your name, you don't belong on the internet. You don't belong on social media. I was like, dude, just shut up. Like, leave me alone. Christ. Like I just kind of, you know, be cool and like change my name to be on brand with the company.

Sorry, I love you so much that I want to all button XXT. So I said, forget it. You know, I'm going to change my name back to what it was before, which is Ashoki. So I went to the profile settings and changed at Yoshoki. Little did I realize that I was actually logged into the NZXT account and changed the NZXT corporate Twitter account to at Yashoki. The funniest thing out of all this, though, when that happened, we got a DM from the Satan Twitter account and is like, are you guys okay? Like, are you good or something? Yeah.

The account has since been banned, but it was like the official. Satan account. Is he back or is he still gone? No, he got banned from Twitter. He had like millions of followers and I don't know why he got banned. The other, his,

his, his, his, his, like, all to count is still up, I guess. But, yeah, the second thing about changing

our name accidentally on Twitter is it had two effects. One, it locked us out from changing it because NZXT, so the minimum character limit for Twitter is five characters and then ZXT is four characters. So we'd have to reach out to someone at Twitter on like a Friday like afternoon if they're available to change it. And also

when you change your at, the moment told me this and now we know, it also removes your verification status. Oh, it does. Yeah. Yeah. So we had to contact multiple people to get someone who knew somebody at Twitter partnerships to change our name back. And I don't know what they did, but the result was that they deleted and suspended the at Yoshoki name. So Yushiki is dead. Yeah. So that's why my name on Twitter. Along with Yashoki.

That's why my name on Twitter is a Denny B. Ashoki. And I've had that name Yashoki since I was like 13. So thank you, Ivan, for killing my online identity on Twitter. I'll eventually get big enough in the world of gaming that I can have someone reenable that account for me. But it's going to be a little bit. It's going to be a little bit. It's going to take a bad. time. I believe in you. Thanks. We'll, we'll, we'll, we'll go

have done. So, you know, maybe I'll run a campaign and bring back Ashoki, right? Resurrection, Yushoki, black and white. All right, next question. What origin, what origin of name? I think, I think here we told us where Fairland comes from. It's the name of a street they grew up on. How do you watch cautious hero anime? It's hilarious. Cautious hero? Yeah. Never heard of it. I have not. Yeah. Let me look that up right now.

Let's see. Get some of the ones in here real quick. JDM cars or European cars? I know you bike. I saw that biking segment on your blog. Yeah, because that's, I'm going to say European and German cars because my girlfriend's from Germany as well. Got them.

So I've seen the efficiency of the Germans and their engineering and their ability to make vehicles. But in Vancouver specifically, like, yeah, like I have a Volkswagen jetta actually in my driveway that has been dead for a year just sitting there because I don't need to drive anywhere. I literally bike wherever I need to go. So I can get from my house to downtown on a bike in like 15, 20 minutes. So what kind of bike do you have? I've got a giant Defy 2.

Yeah. Nice. I went. My buddy and I got into, got super into biking like four years ago and bought road bikes. And we used to do like 50, 60K a day, like kilometers. would be like 50 or 40 or 60 miles or sorry like 30 to 40 miles a day with your shirt off with my shirt off I mean yeah I'm not gonna have my bag I can't have a bag yeah I know and so I used to bike like all the time I bike everywhere and now I use it more like general transportation I should yeah I'm into biking too and actually

over the weekend I just got a a hitch installed on my on my on my Subaru and got a bike rack because I'm teaching my daughter how to ride her bike. So that's like everything. Now I take her to the park and I take my bike and ride around. But I can't wait until she can ride so you can go on like little adventures. Yeah, that moment truth. And they're soaring. I have a road bike, an old one, like a falcon from the 70s and has a like one of those

little toddler seats in the back. And I write about, it's not long. It's only like a three mile ride, but she weighs 40 pounds. And there's a lot of hills. So it's like a good workout. And I ride to the donut shop and then eat all the calories I burned on my way there and ride back. There's just one donut, right? Yeah.

But it's amazing as a little kid, like, I have like these like faint memories or like these like small blurbs of imagery being a little kid on the bike seat in the back of my dad's bike and just feeling like you're going at light speed. Yeah. She loves it, man. Like bobbing back and forth. Like the whole way she's screaming, we, we, we faster, faster. Yeah, I love it. You're like, I can't. Oh, sure, can't.

Yeah. I'm trying. I'm like, I'm trying, yeah. But yeah, it's, it's, uh, biking's a great exercise. I, I think it's also your knees. Yeah, but the only thing that sucks is, I don't know how it is in Canada, but, and here in L.A., just, like, it's not the safest thing to do on the streets. No, no, no, no, you'll get run down.

Like, Vancouver is so well designed. Like, it's so accommodating for that. Like, we have, like, designated bite roads, like, residential. Yeah, that's what it was in the same way. We had designated pot holes just for bikes. Yeah, pretty much. Yeah, it's so bad. It's not a very bikeable or even, like, a walkable city down here.

We're still spread out. That's what's funny to me is when I come, I love walking. And so when I came down to L.A., I remember there was, like, a Trader Joe's that was, I think, like a 15, 20-minute walk. from my friend's place and I walked to Trader Joe's and I came back he was like where'd you go you're gone for like an hour I was like I went to Trader Joe's it's like why did it take you an hour it's like a five minute drive away I was like oh I walked there and they're like oh you did what I was like I walked to your Joe's like dude it's like a mile away and it's like yeah it's like

a perfect walk I was like it's beautiful outside it's like 80 degrees you know I was like I'm going to go for a walk and they're like you're out of your mind like you're insane Yeah, nobody walks in L.A., man. No. No. I think this goes, like, all the stuff that you want to do will eventually lead you to driving because, like, things are spread out, right? Like, you can walk the city, but it's also like you're stepping on, like, people's pee.

Yeah, that is true. It's trash everywhere and, like, you know. Yeah. Poop on the sidewalks. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. And you don't know who belongs to. Yeah.

Oh, man. I know, it's bad. Um, okay, uh, other than that, all right, so if you guys want to ask a question off the air, please do us a big old favor and send an email to clubcast at nxxc.com. The c, L-U-B-C-A-S-T at ncxte.com. I think you might have one here. What is this? Okay, here we go.

This is a good one. Uh, hi, N-Z-X-T club. My name is Sherry, and I like to search by, and I like to search by using my soundcloud cause I got inspired for art. Thus recently, I heard your music from your. count and it is really fantastic. I really love your tracks. Some colleagues of mine are promoting their own.

Nevermind. This is a spam email. Anyway, send an email to clubcaste.com. I love reading these because they're always so like clever. And like there's such a long story. And then the very end, by the way,

he's a sketchy link to click on. Here's one from Nintendo. It says cease and desist. Stop using We Shop Music or Mario will come to your house. We'll come to your house. We'll come to your house. I thought Mario was dead though, no? Didn't they kill Mario?

Was it like the meme for a bit? It's because they took out Mario 3D All-Stars off the e-shop store. Oh yeah, because it was only like a limited for what? It's digital. It isn't caught.

Anyway, anyway. It's like NFT now. Byers an NFT now. So this is the next progression. Yeah. I want to do an NFT in the in the form of a fair lane song and only one person can listen to it.

It's like that guy Martin Screlli who like bought that Uteng album and just hasn't released it. Yeah. You're talking about? He just hasn't. A lot of people are doing that now, tokenizing their albums. Yeah. Like I think Tori Lanes did one not long ago with Bondly. Yeah.

He like released like an entire album of unreleased records and just was like, yeah, you can buy him now. I think he made like $250,000. That's the move, dude. That's the minute. Yeah. Just get the NM. I feel like, I feel like, but by the time you're thinking about I should get

into this thing. it's probably ready too late. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's why I bought Dogecoin back in like December of like 2017 or something. Yeah. Now I'm rich baby.

Now I'm rich baby. Let's go. To the move. Yeah. All right. So community roundup time. Congratulations to our halfway hero Dave on the Pucci's pick. I'll be hitting you up later actually about some extra stuff, Dave.

So keep your eyes open on your DMs. For those who. don't know what a Pucci's pick is. Pucci's pick is a monthly highlight for a one special community member who follows their community guidelines and embodies of core values. So if you want to be a Pucci's pick, be a super nice person, be helpful, be kind. And, you know, if you're cool enough, you know, maybe the community will pick you to be a pick.

You get a cool shirt. You get a DJ roll. You get a free gift card. Stickers, all this awesome stuff. So please be cool in the server. Be nice to each other. Maybe you will be the next Poochie's pick. Maybe Fairlane will be the next Poochie's pick.

You're just like hang out the server all day. And people just love him so much, though, will make him a pick. Hell yeah. Imagine that, just being your life. Don't forget to follow Fairlane. Literally everywhere, we're going to be linking his link tree in the podcast chat. Please and thank you. There it is.

Boom. Boom. Let's do it. Yeah. Hit a bomb on Spotify, Patreon, Discord, Twitter. He doesn't link it here, but he also says to Facebook, and I think he's on Zenga as well. Hit him up on NeoPats,

send him as a friend, invite him to your Wow Rades, invite him to your D&D game nights. He's looking for a fun group to play D&D with. And because he wasn't to Evo, you know he has a Micepace. Exactly. Yeah, I'm around there, yeah.

Yeah, Nixopia page. Hit him up on that SoundCloud, you know? Yeah, it's a top eight, man. Yeah, got to keep it. Yeah, in the top eight. Tom never moves, though. Tom never moves. Yes, I capsie.

This is the official N66C channel. We're going to get verified soon. That way there would be no question about it. I got a bug. I got a bug Jeff about that. Jeff, get us verified. Me, please.

We should be, we, I think we were at a certain time and they got it removed or something. Verified on what? On a Twitch, on Twitch. We're not verified on there? No, we're not.

We need to be, though. We're working on it. Also, we are always looking for moderators for our community. So please, you know, fill out the application. Thank you. Oh, my God. This link in beds are nuts.

Check out Discord chat. Thank you, small boy for that. But, yes, moderators, professors, pals, and also if you're missing rewards, let us know. Let us know if you're missing rewards. Oh, Ivan, should we talk about the April Fool's debacle? We never, like, really fully explained what happened, but I think people just kind of know what happened. And if you want to, like, go into it at all. Okay, so I told you guys, I would tell you what happened during April Fool's.

So here, here's what happened, right? What happened was during April Fool's, we swapped all the roles, right? So Legends became newbies, so on and so forth, right? You're forgetting the backstory, Dennis, the same way that I always forget the backstory. What's the backstory? Me telling you 100 times not to ever change those roles for this reason. So I learned that Ivan was so afraid to touch the roles because they're set up in such a wonky way that any change to them would break them.

So it's not really my fault. It's more of Ivan's failure to plan for my wanting to mess and take care with things. You should know better, Ivan. But anyway. No better. But anyway, so people got their roles swapped around. Two things happened, right? It automatically trigger rewards for anyone who got those rolls.

And also, the way that the system checks for roles is, or it used to be, not anymore, because we fix this, because that is the byproducts. to affect a lot of stuff, is that if you went from, like, say, newbies, the champions, it would just assume that you'd achieved all the other roles, too, so that triggered rewards on every single tier. So the shirt, the hoodie, the lanyard, the stickers, stuff like that, right? So that happened. And then also, any role that you previously had was also stored in the system,

so it would kind of double up on stuff. So people who might have already gotten something, might have gotten extra stickers and stuff like that, depending on how long you've had the role. So that's all fixed. We canceled a bunch of orders. If you manage to get a free poochie, not free, well, they've always been free,

but if you manage to get a little poochy plush, or you manage to get a hoodie or a sticker or a lanyard or whatever, congratulations. You benefited from our goof. It was mostly stickers and poochies. Yeah, for whatever reason. And me and Alec, we're still kind of trying to figure this out.

It's like why it was mostly limited to like stickers and poochies. A few hoodies went out. from the list that I saw, I think like one or two shirts, which really simply shouldn't have happened because one person should have got it, or multiple people should have gotten everything, but I'm not a data scientist. I'm not the people who work on the back end. They understand it more than I do.

All I do is tell them, say, hey, I broke it, can you fix it? And they said yes. So shout out to Alec for helping with that. Shout out to Dennis, not Dennis with one end, but Dennis two ends. Is it show? Show? I don't know how you pronounce the last name. Chow.

Is it chow? Yeah. Okay. And also shout out to Vivian and Dom and Anna on the ops slash shipping. I don't know what their actual department's called, but shout out to them for helping out. And also shout to the lovely folks at Eunice, we have to work a bunch of shifts to make sure that all the rewards got put back in their bunch of. Shout out to the county team I'm going to have to talk to you pretty soon. I know.

I know. So it seems like you shipped a bunch of stuff? Like, yeah. So what happened was, and then you just show the podcast. Just listen to this and come back in like an hour. We have any questions. Okay. Other than that, I think that's really pretty much it.

Mr. Fairland, do you have anything you want to let the folks know before we go ahead and leave? Any shout-ups? Any news? I've got a song coming out in May called Hypnotize, my buddy Grant. It's going to come out on proximity that I think is one of the cooler records that I've ever done. And it's very left field.

It's like very experimental. And I think that it's, it's going to surprise a lot of people. So that's the big thing coming up for me. Otherwise, I'm going to spend the month of April getting AMVs done for my music coming up. What's your next live show?

Next time you're in LA, man. Come visit us and we'll go walking somewhere. Absolutely. We'll walk the show. Shirts off. I'm going to eat until 2 p.m. We're going to walk through the nose. I'm going to get that.

I'm going to see that too. No, for sure. Yeah. If you're in the area, let us know, you know, if you have a show, I'll show up. I haven't won't because he's, he, uh, he hides behind his, he hides behind his daughter to go to go out and do anything public, but I will be there regardless of, of what I'm going on. So when you got to show, let us know. Bring your wife and kids, man.

Exactly. Yeah. Family affair. Family friend. Like some depth stuff for my daughter. Yeah. Let's watch your. No, yeah.

Absolutely. Absolutely. I think in the month of July I'm going to try and make my way down to California again. I'm putting my trust in the system hoping they can they can kind of ease things up a little bit. Yeah, by then, at least myself will be back in the office.

I don't know about Dennis, but I'll be vaccinated and good to go, man. So hit us up and we'll definitely grab out by T or something. Absolutely. I'd love that. This apartment is not cheap, right? Why would I ever leave? I'm paying to be. here. I'm going to get every bank for my buck and just like stay here as much as I can.

That's what I don't understand. People are like, oh, you know, you want to go out? No, I'm paying for this place. I'm going to stay here. I'm going to stay. Crazy. I pay rent. All my stuff. All my stuff is here. I want to go where my stuff isn't. Just bring the food to me, right? Yeah. I agree with that 100%. All righty then. Oops, that's the wrong. Dang it. And I've haven't talked to you about some more equipment. Did I break this? I think I broke it. Oh my God, dude. I am, I'm going to see. Only 85 episodes in, guys. If I was Fairlane, this wouldn't happen.

It would just be perfectly on point every time. Tune in for a special episode 100 where Dennis nails the whole procedure. Imagine we have like John or something and it just like completely breaks. All right. Anyway, folks, thank you very much for joining us Fairlane. Thank you guys for having me. Yeah, for sure. Part two coming soon, right?

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