NZXT PODCAST - #105 - Cristina Amaya
Episode Date: September 16, 2021This week on the show we are joined by Cristina Amaya, founder of the Latinx In Gaming non-profit organization! We talk about what it means to be Latinx, music, and crying to Coco. Follow Cristina a...t twitter.com/silcris88 Tune in live every Thursday at 10AM PT on twitch.tv/NZXT and send your questions to: podcast[@]nzxt.com
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Hello, everyone, and welcome to episode 105 of the NZXD Clubcast, the NXC podcast, the official podcast with the N60 community.
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My name is Dennis.
With me, as always, is Ivan.
Hi.
Hey, happy Latinx heritage month.
Happy Latinx heritage month, Ivan.
How are you feeling?
I'm feeling heritage-y.
I'm feeling great, actually.
It's been interesting seeing the response from people
when we announced that we were going to celebrate Latinx heritage month.
But I wasn't surprised, to be honest.
Yeah, neither was that.
The same thing happened when we showed our support for Black Lives Matter.
The same thing happened when we showed our support for Black Lives Matter.
same thing happened when we showed our support for pride.
A lot of people don't like it, you know, and it's kind of sad, but the same time,
it also makes me realize that we have to go even harder and double down and like,
let people know why we're celebrating these things and just kind of not necessarily put people
in their place, but really just explain what we're all about, right? So hopefully today's podcast,
with our special guest here is one way of doing that, which is our special guest is
Christina Amaya.
I was saying if you just have mid-transition since you've already brought it up.
How are you doing, Christina?
How are you feeling?
I'm good, thank you.
How are you guys?
Great, great.
So for those that don't know, Christina is a person of the world to say that.
So much going on.
If you just look at our Twitter, you would just be like, wow, this person does a whole lot.
Check out the LinkedIn, folks.
Check out the LinkedIn.
You'd be surprised.
So, Christina is a head of events at Team Liquid on the board of the directors of the International Game Developers Association, founder and president of the Latinx and gaming nonprofit organization.
And so much more.
There's a lot.
There's a lot.
Happy to have you.
Very excited to have you on here.
I know that we were talking before the show, and Ivan's like, when we were planning and doing this month, we knew for sure, just without a doubt, we want to talk to you and want to talk about your org.
So thank you for being with us again, really appreciative of your time.
We know you're really busy.
No, no worries.
Thank you for having me.
No problem.
So you mentioned before we started that you moved from San Francisco to L.A.
And as me and Ivan are huge proponents of the Los Angeles area, can you tell us why Los Angeles is better than San Francisco for all the haters up there?
Oh, man, that's super unfair.
So I actually was an L.A. hater, too.
I was like, I will never move to L.A. I did. I did say that.
And then I'm eating my words as we speak.
So I actually really like it here. Don't tell my S.F. friends.
But the food's great. I feel like there's so much.
do. Like, if you're really bored, there's always something to do, even in a pandemic, right?
Like, there's still hiking and trails and shit. Oh, should I curse? Am I allowed to curse?
No, you actually banned. Yeah, yeah. And I don't edit the podcast, so I'm sorry. Whatever you say,
is just going to go straight to everyone's ears. Oh, no. I'm so sorry. No, you're good. You're allowed to curse
as long as it's not directed towards me. You're allowed to curse towards Dennis. Yes. Okay. That's the rule.
Yeah. Good rule. Good rule to have. Yeah. Yeah.
Sorry, I thought you had more about the food.
No, oh my God, yeah. Sorry.
LA's great, actually.
The one thing I will say is that when I moved here at the beginning of the pandemic, there's no traffic.
So I was like, what's everyone complaining about?
There's nothing.
And then, yeah, there's definitely a ton of traffic.
And it's definitely stressful to drive through.
So I will say that I agree with that general assessment of traffic as a role.
But overall, I kind of do like it more than SF.
Sorry, guys.
Rip.
The opposite.
For me, San Francisco is my favorite city in the world.
I love it up there.
Yeah, I wish I could live up there.
Out of all the places.
In the world?
Yeah.
Out of all the places I've been.
I haven't been to every single place in the world.
But I love San Francisco.
I love, first of all, I love the weather up there.
You know, it's always cloudy and like 65 degrees, which is beautiful to me.
But apart from that, I just love the fact that there's like so many different, like,
neighborhoods in such a small, like, condensed area where, like, you can, in the span of a day,
you can literally see so many different types of, you know, different neighborhoods.
Whereas in L.A., we have that, too, but it's very spread out, you know, like you mentioned the
traffic. You have to drive everywhere here.
Public transportation sucks.
Even riding your bicycle is very dangerous, you know.
I live like a mile from the office and
sometimes I ride in my scooter here and it's like
I'm dodging
like trailers and whatnot trying to run me over
but yeah I love San Francisco I wish I could be there right now actually
oh man I don't
I think it's nice I just like
I was just recently there and had to drive around to go grab like food
because other than that I was just in the Airbnb the entire time
and driving
around that city is like a pain in the butt, dude.
Everything is just like so
like out of the way, but also like
really close and an odd way.
Like it's hard to explain, but it's like it's close
but it's far. Like it may be like
two miles down the road, but it'll take you like 15 minutes
they get there because like the roads are like two
way streets or whatever or one way streets
and they're like two lanes and you get to go
through all these like wonky looking houses and it's like
somewhere purple, somewhere pink. Every house
looks the same so you get lost. I couldn't
do it man. I got I got
That's too much.
Yeah, it's too much.
Intimidating. Exactly, yeah.
I just, uh...
I get that.
It's too much for someone as simple as me to handle, right?
I just can't do it.
Oh, no.
I don't call you simple.
Gosh, no.
I'm a...
I like having like, like, uh, what do you call it?
Uh, landmarks, right?
Like, the donut shop, the street over there, the McDonald's over there, right?
The taco shop over there.
If I don't have those, I can't get anywhere, right?
The GPS is just useless.
Um, so, Christina.
Um, you've done a lot.
And before we get into what you're currently doing, I kind of want to ask you a little bit
about yourself and how you got your start in the gaming industry.
Yeah.
So, um, you know, I went to college for political science.
Uh, and I have two degrees in political science and then international relations.
I really thought I was going to be a politician.
Um, but then I did like an internship in, uh, Tallahassee, Florida where I went to college.
And I hated it.
I hated what I had to wear.
I hated everything about it.
So I quit my internship a little early, which is probably I can hear my parents just like disappointment over here.
I quit it a little early and then I went to culinary school because I don't know.
I thought, why not just bake?
I like baking as a general rule.
But then I got really sick in culinary school.
I got like some sort of like parasite.
So then I didn't get to do my internship for culinary school.
What?
That's really.
Yeah, I guess I technically graduated with.
that degree, but not really. But then I went to Pax in 20, I'm telling you guys my age, I guess. I went to Paxx in
2011, 2010, one of those two. And I was like, man, I really want to work in gaming. And I was like talking
to somebody at Riot Games. And he was like, just do it. And it was like so simple. Like I could have
realized that myself kind of simplicity. But it took another person in the gaming industry to tell me that
for me to be like, oh, okay, this is an approachable thing. This is something I can do. So from there,
I moved to New York on a whim.
I stayed with my cousin for one month and decided to just try to find a job.
And if one month I didn't find a job, I would be back in Florida, probably bartending.
And I found a job.
I became a social media manager at a gaming company out in New York City.
So then many years later, here I am.
Wow, that's really crazy.
So you just started looking for jobs and you happened to find one, huh?
I very luckily happened to find one.
It was listed on Craigslist.
What?
Yeah, 2012 or something.
It was probably not safe to take a job off of Craigslist.
I was about to say, yeah, I wouldn't interest anything off of Craigslist, not even a couch.
But it was a really nice building in the middle of Times Square.
And, yeah, it was a gaming company, actually.
So I did technically start in gaming.
And I won't disparage them.
It was a really interesting time working for them.
I'll say that.
I had some really cool coworkers that worked on like the original Red Dead.
That was pretty cool.
That's awesome.
That's really cool.
Yeah. Yeah.
What are some of the places that you've worked at before your current job?
Oh, man.
So I've worked at Twitch.
I was a customer service representative at Twitch for English and Spanish speakers
and Spanish speaking partners.
That was fun.
That was interesting to see what Twitch complaints you get through.
I also worked at Unity.
I also ran my own company for a little bit.
In events, it's just kind of product.
by project basis. So sometimes, you know, I've done projects for really big companies.
Sometimes I've done long-term projects. And then I was contracting for Google Stadia
through a company called a Deco. And so I got to help launch to the launch events for Stadio,
which was really cool. Fun fact, I love my Google Stadia. And this gives me crap for it all the time,
but I swear Google Stadia is awesome. It's a and this coming from a guy who works at a computer company.
You know, I have a computer, but I also love my stadia.
This is for the NZXT podcast, too.
Yeah, exactly.
Hot take, hot take.
Why do you not like Stadia, Dennis?
I guess we'll get into the Stadia hate.
I don't actually like Stadia.
I don't actually hate Stadia.
I just like making fun of Ivan for anything and everything that he does.
That's fair.
Yeah.
It's a very special relationship.
You know, we're just giving sure the crap all day and then just see who cries first.
I always lose.
Oh, man.
Yeah, it's usually Dennis at Christ first.
Yeah, pretty much.
So, Christina, as this is Latinx Heritage Month,
and we wanted to have you on to talk about that kind of specifically.
I feel like this is a really good place I'm going to bring this up.
As someone in the Latinx community,
did you find a difficult finding work?
Did you find any issues with your background being something that you had to deal with,
like work-wise or did you feel like it wasn't like much of a factor at all for you?
I do think that being Latin, Latinx, you know, etc.
Can affect somehow sometimes like jobs and stuff.
I definitely do.
I definitely think there's issues with perception, issues with understanding that culture
and understanding the diversity of it.
I think this story every time, but it's like my favorite story.
When I worked at a company, they wanted to do something.
something for Day of the Dead.
So they like asked me about it.
And I was like, I'm Colombian.
So I actually don't have any real insight into this.
But I did some research anyways, which they probably could have done.
And I looked into it and, you know, got as much facts as I could.
I asked my Mexican friends, ones that knew people that celebrated it or did celebrate it.
And try to make as informed opinion as possible.
but that was definitely interesting.
In terms of like getting hired and stuff,
I don't see it.
I can't see the differences, you know?
So I don't think so.
I don't think it stopped me from what I can tell.
I like to hope that I'm being judged on my work at this point.
But yeah, you never know.
Yeah, it's one of those things where like I,
like the story you mentioned about the Day of the Dead stuff
really resonates with me because people were asking me questions too,
And I'm like, I'm not from that part, honey, sorry.
I can help you with that.
Like, you know, when I ask someone else or, you know,
it's like you're saying, just like Google it, right?
And just learn yourself because, like, the resources are out there.
It's not the hard.
And it's actually, you know, it's interesting you guys mention that
because this is actually the reason why we decided to use the phrase Latinx Heritage Month
as opposed to Hispanic Heritage Month or Latino Latina Heritage Month.
month because the word Latinx is designed to be inclusive of everyone, right?
And if you say Hispanic, you're excluding certain people. You say Latino, you're certain certain
people. So we just wanted to find, you know, I'm sure there's probably like no perfect word,
but we just try to find a word that was the most inclusive and not everyone likes that word. And
me personally, like, I'm first generation Mexican-American. I'd never in my life considered myself
Latino or Hispanic. Like anytime someone would ask me, like, you know, what are you? I'd always say,
well, I'm Mexican. And up until, just until, up until recently, like a couple months ago,
when we started thinking about Latinx Heritage Month, and I was having discussions with
Dennis, my wife, my sisters, my parents, my friends.
about this word Latinx, and little by little, I started realizing, you know what?
Like, I probably should start identifying as this because, you know, not only on a personal level,
but as a company, NZXT, we're trying to be more diverse and inclusive.
And I mentioned earlier, you know, we supported Black Lives Matter.
We supported pride.
you know so why not support something that encourages inclusivity and just so happens to be that the two guys that are running nz-dxed social media are yeah you know latin-x so it just kind of like well let's just use this word and um it kind of made me a little sad when i read all the comments of people saying like i'm latino i'm not latin-x or i'm offended you're calling me latin-x or uh you know who how dare you as a
white as a white company like people just assuming that we're white or people assuming that the
people that run social media are a certain race or whatever and it did make me sad but the same
time it also makes me happy because i know okay it's probably we're probably doing the right thing
because people are upset yeah like and i'll use pride as an example like for pride like we
lost 60 000 followers on social media
Yeah, yeah, just because we've supported pride.
And just because we had a pride flag in our logo, you know, we lost 60,000 people and it sucks.
But at the same time, you know, these are the people that we don't really necessarily want to be a part of our community because they're not, they're not like of the same mentality of like inclusivity and just spreading love, you know.
And that's basically what we're trying to do is just spread love and support to all gamers,
no matter what ethnicity, nationality are, you know.
Yeah.
I mean, to that issue, right?
Like, we named Latinx in gaming in 2018.
And at the time, Latinx was like, you know, the word that was in vogue.
And not to say that it isn't a good word, right?
You know, there's, God, there's so much to say here.
So let's start with the fact that being Latinx, being Latin, being Latin,
know, Hispanic, whatever, is an incredibly diverse thing, right?
Like the three of us in this call, we don't look alike, right?
We don't have the same experiences.
We don't have the same background.
We're completely different people.
And we're just three people.
Being Latino Latinx, et cetera, it is such a diverse experience, like across the board, dude,
like Afro-Latinx is a whole thing.
There are people in Latin America who don't understand certain, like,
they have different concerns and stuff.
So when we create at our organization, we're trying to get all of those concerns under one
umbrella to talk about, not just from a networking perspective, but helping people get hired,
helping people get seen. And it's clear that, like, we don't even agree internally, right?
And that's okay, because we are diverse people. When it comes to what to call ourselves, you know,
what, you know, what you prefer to be called as, I let the person lead the subject, right? I want to
be called Hispanic. All right, I'll call you Hispanic, right? This is about respecting you.
When people harassed Latinx and gaming, for being called Latinx and gaming, for anything we do, by the way,
like, we put on our career fair, we got harassed. We want to. We want to.
an award, we got harassed. We get harassed, we get harassed. And, you know, some of those people
are Latino, Latinx, Hispanic, and some of those people are not. Some of those people, especially when
the quartering, I think, came out with some sort of thing about this term, got really deep into
us. And I remember, like, clicking through a couple profiles, and they were, like, white people
out of, like, Michigan. And I was, like, a little bit confused as to, like, the involvement
in what we were doing. So I will say that a term that I'm coming to, like, a little bit
more like again this is such a large conversation we go on and on but a term I like a little bit more
right now is Latinx is inclusive it's gender inclusive it includes all sorts of peoples but what it doesn't
include is pronunciation for people in Latin America a lot of people in Latin America it's hard for
them to say Latinx it's like latinx or something like it's really it's actually kind of cute I
would prefer just hear them say it but Latin is the E ending and it's gender neutral and it's
inclusive in that regard. So I'm trying to use that a little bit more with more of what I do.
But we did name our nonprofit in 2018. And in fact, it is our legal name. So if we were to redo that,
there's a lot of paperwork. And there's a lot of considerations as well, right? Because I am a
cisgendered woman and I don't necessarily have all of the insight that other people have. And so we
want to bring in more experts to have this is like a wider conversation about what this needs to be.
So yeah, sorry, all that to say, it's complex, you know.
Yeah. It's not easy.
Yeah. I think that's the hardest part about it, right?
It's like not everybody can agree and not every person from Latin America or that adjacent area thinks the same way either, right?
And not just that, but also like, and this is something that I was talking to Ivan about, right?
Like they're, they're, you know, just because we are a quote unquote minority, right?
Doesn't mean that we are also like left-leaning all the time, right?
Like I know plenty of people in my community who are very, very conservative and don't want it and don't want any part of any of any of this stuff, right?
So there's a lot of that too.
And that's kind of the difficult thing, right?
It's like how do you identify yourself as a group?
How do you identify yourself as a person?
How do you make sure that when you're identifying other people that you're being respectful, right?
So we just went what we felt to ourselves was the most inclusive term.
And the way that I described to the people is if one person feels happy and included because we said Latinx as opposed to Latino or Latino or whatever, then I'm happy with that, right?
if you're going to be upset about it, be upset for the right reasons.
Don't be upset because we're trying to include people.
And I think that's what the conversation gets really modeled, right?
It turns into from, you know, it goes from a, let's talk about inclusivity to, well, you're doing this to the language, you're doing that to this.
Then I'm like, okay, but like that's great.
That's cool.
But can we talk about first about all the other people who want to make sure that we're including in their conversation and that they feel her, they feel mad, you know, that they feel obscene?
So the conversation about language and how dare you change our language.
What?
Are you kidding me?
Like we use slang, we add words.
We create things like, you know, there's a word that, seep, like SIP or whatever, is like how my cousin says seep.
You know, like it's just really cute C, et cetera.
It wasn't originally a word when we created this language who knows how many years ago.
Like language evolves, language changes.
That's the beauty of it.
As we as people evolve and grow, so does our use of the, you know, Spanish lexicon and
I just get so like I get so angry at that one.
It's very mind-boggling.
Like what you said right now too, it's like, you know,
this idea of evolving, right, of language evolving, right?
Like, I'm, I'm not super old, but, you know, I turned 40 next month.
And when I was a kid, you know, there was no such thing as, like,
LGBTQIA plus for example you know and it was like it took a long time for that term to evolve
and it's still not accepted all like all over but you know it went from LGBT to LGBTQ LGBTQIA
and i feel like the same thing with with latin x or latin or whatever the next you know word of the of the
I guess. It's still evolving. You know, we're still figuring it out. I'm sure maybe a hundred
years from now there's going to be a better word that that summarizes what people that are trying
to use these words are trying to convey, right? But when I look at the word Latinx and when I say
the word Latinx, I understand it's very progressive. Not everyone understands it. Not everyone agrees
with it. But at the same time, you know, we're living in the year 2021. We can't just
say like well you know i've always said it this way so this is what i'm going to stick with because
this is how it should be this is how it's always been you know it's very narrow-minded and it's very
narrow-minded and it excludes a lot of a lot of people who don't want to be classified a certain way
right not everyone wants to be called latino the same way not everyone wants to be called latinx
not everyone wants to be called Hispanic not everyone wants to be called whatever and it's kind of a
It's a challenge, but I think the important thing, you know, is to look at organizations like Latinx and gaming or even companies like NZT who are supporting these things.
Look at the reason why they're doing these things. Don't even, don't focus on like the name they're using.
Just focus on what they're doing because what they're doing is good, you know, like Latinx and gaming, you know, the fact that they're spreading, you know,
this representation of these people in the gaming industry is very important because there's not
many of us you know and it's cool like you have three people on this podcast who are you know of
Latin American descent who work in the gaming industry but overall there's not that many right so
just look at the intent that would be my my suggestion of people who have issues with the
the words being used is just look at what they're doing, not how they're saying it.
Yeah. And for me, I'm open to a conversation. I'm open to discussion. What I'm not open to is
being harassed. You know, we even have people within the industry, not many, obviously, that
are also harassing us or making fun of us or whatever. And it would be like, I remember,
I think the worst one was when we tweeted that we were having a career fair called Connexion.
And it was, you know, a month of webinars and all this sort of stuff. And then at the very end,
There was an actual career fair.
So you had a whole month to prepare your resume, to learn interviewing skills, to prepare your portfolio.
And at the very end of it, you were going to be able to meet with PlayStation.
You were going to be able to meet with Nintendo.
We have people from all of these major companies.
It was such a big opportunity for people.
And obviously, a solid like 90% of people really loved it.
We're excited about it.
But people came in to tell us we were stupid, right people, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
like all this sort of stuff.
And it was crazy.
It was like, dude, like we are, we should, you know,
if you want to talk about why it offends you to be called Latin X,
let's talk about it.
But tweeting a meme at us, making fun of us,
making fun of our leadership's appearances and stuff like that,
that's not okay.
It's not okay because at the end of the day,
we're still human.
Obviously, we're still human.
We are human.
And we're trying to make sure that we're like making room for other people at the table,
making room for all sorts of voices,
making sure that people are heard and feel represented.
Yeah, no. I mean, that's, that's pretty much I feel about as well, right? And like my my like internal
Like want to be edgy response is like if you want to talk about language then I want to see a text message from you to your mom, right? And you're and you're not saying pluma you're saying polygrapho you're saying coche, you're saying all these like really specific like like like really yeah exactly or don't or don't talk to me right because obviously because obviously that point it's not about language. It's just you wanting to not
think about these things, which is 100% you're right. You don't have to, but we are. So kind of like
deal with it. Right. And I feel like it's kind of the same attitude we've had during Pride, during
BLM, during anything we've done, a mental health awareness, right? It's like, if you don't like it,
well, too bad, right? Like, that's the, we're not, we're not here for you. Then we're here for
literally everybody else. We're here for that one or two people who might feel more included,
who feel that we are talking directly to them. And that's, that's what it's for, right?
And with and I was just going to end like my own thought here is like there's never going to be a perfect way to do it right.
But the intent, right, is to make sure that we are including everybody.
And that's what we should be focused on 100%.
It concerns me that sometimes one of the arguments are, you know, against gender neutral language in general, right?
You know, people are more than willing to use they and them, right?
But then when you ask them to use pronouns, they can't handle it.
even in general.
And for me, that's such a concern, right?
Because at the end of the day, it's,
they're not changing your gender.
They're asking you to call them by the gender they prefer to be called.
Why is that so hard that it's nothing against you.
You're not going to.
Why were you so scared of that?
What is so scary about that to you, truly?
Yeah.
And, and I think it honestly, like, I think it,
I don't know this is the right word, but I honestly think it's a lot of narrow-mindedness.
Yeah.
You know, like, for example, at work in our Slack profiles, you know, we're encouraged
to add our pronouns if we want to be called a certain way.
And some people do, some people don't.
And that's totally cool.
Like if you, like me, like me personally, like I really don't care what pronoun people call
me.
Like if someone says, as soon as I'm a woman, I'm just going to say, oh, no, I'm actually a man.
Like I'm not going to, I'm not going to like really be upset about it.
However, you know, there are people who might might be upset about it.
And I totally get that.
Like if someone, like if Dennis told me like, hey, I want you to refer to me as she or her, I wouldn't blink an eye.
He'd be like, no problem.
That's how you want to be referred to.
That's how I'm going to refer to you.
But a lot of people don't see it that way.
A lot of people just see things very like black and white, you know, kind of refusing to acknowledge that, you know,
you know, things evolve, like humans evolve, language evolves, the world is evolved. Everything's
changing. It's like we can't just accept things because that's how they've always been. You know,
we're just, if we do that, then we're just going to like end up even worse than we are right now, right?
Right. And another thing, too, like a willingness to be wrong, right? A willingness to learn
how you said something or do something is wrong, right? Like, you know, I used to use,
because again, this was introduced to me a few years ago, women with an X in it, right?
And some people started telling me like, hey, I actually really hate that term because X, Y, Z.
And, you know, I ended up doing a lot of research to figure out, like, what should I use, right?
Like, is this term exclusive?
Is it inclusive?
And people think that it's actually not as inclusive as it sounds.
It can make trans women not feel included.
And I had to admit I was wrong, right?
I had to admit that the thing I was learning to be better wasn't correct.
And I had to grow from that.
A lot of people don't seem to be willing.
And not a lot of people, I don't want to generalize,
but some people don't seem to be willing to learn and to change that sort of thinking
and to say, hey, you know what, I messed up.
I don't understand the language, etc.
And I want people to call me out when I mess up too.
I want to learn how to be a better ally because I want people to be good allies to me too, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I've actually been guilty of doing things that I thought was making me, you know, a good ally.
But I was called out and, you know, I learned that, oh, no, I shouldn't be doing it this week.
And like, so what happened was, you know, before, before Dennis worked here, before Amanda, Odyssey Grill in the chat here, worked here.
And it was just me running social and community.
I made the decision early on that I'm not going to allow discussions about your sexuality on our Discord server
because in my mind, you know, that would be the safest way to prevent people from getting bullied or harassed or tease or whatever for their sexuality, right?
Like, because I saw it happen. Like people would say that they're gay and then, you know, they people were, the next, the very next line would be like a slur.
against them, right? And I was like so fed up with people just making fun of each other for their
sexuality. I said, all right, that's it. No more sex talk. And then one day Amanda, you know, she's like, she
messaged me and she's like, hey, why is the word gay banned on the server? And, you know, I explained
to her why. Then she opened up my eyes and she's like, well, you know, the better solution would be to
actually encourage people to speak up about who they are and support.
them and let them speak about it.
And instead of banning the word, you know, let's just get rid of the people who don't believe
in those things.
You know, that's the better solution.
And now, you know, you look at our Discord server and, you know, we have people talking
about sexuality, sharing their pronouns, and it's not looked down upon.
It's actually encouraged.
And, you know, like, that's something that I definitely learned and grew from because I
always, you know, do the right thing when it came to be an ally, right?
And same thing with Latinx, you know, I'm sure a year from now I'm going to know more
and I'm going to learn.
And, you know, when we're celebrating next year, I'm sure we're going to do things better.
And, you know, like, I just hope that people know that, you know, not just me, but
NZXT and a lot of people who are supporting these things.
We're all learning and growing.
No one's perfect.
We're all doing our best out here.
Yeah.
Very well said, Ivan.
Very well said.
Yeah, big claps.
So, Gisina, let's get to it.
What is Latinx and gaming?
What do you all do?
Why are you around?
How do you get involved?
I don't know, everything.
What's going on with this stuff?
Everything.
Everything.
Okay.
So Latinx and gaming exists to
elevate Latinos in the gaming industry.
Whether it be content creators, and we want to make sure that their streams make it to the
front page or help them get deals or help them find managers or help them improve their page,
get better graphics, et cetera, whether it be e-sports, helping pros find teams, helping them get
seen, helping other people learn what it takes to be a pro, whether it be industry professionals
on the marketing or, you know, whatever side.
We just want to help get people hired.
We want to get them into the room, and we want their voices to be here.
heard. Giving them a platform to be heard is super important, right? Like some people don't feel like
they have voices. You know, when I started out in gaming back in 2013, 2012, I was legitimately, like,
often the only woman, you know, the only Latina in the room, like, often the only woman in the
room sometimes, right? And it just, it was pretty isolating. And I, I remember that I started making
Latino friends, right? Like, I started becoming friends with, like, somebody who works with me now,
Julian and I had my friend, Nars or Jennifer, and I knew that I could talk to them about certain
things, right? Like, whenever something happened at work, where I had an interaction on Twitter
or something, I could message them and be like, oh, man, this is awful, or, oh, I can't believe
this happened. And I realized that some people didn't have that. They had nowhere to turn to.
So we also wanted to create community. We wanted to create a place that you could talk about
that. And so in GDC of 2018, I made a panel called Latinx and gaming, you belong here,
because people don't think that they do, right, for whatever reason. Maybe they think,
well, I'm just, like you said earlier, Yvonne, I'm Mexican, that's it. I don't see myself as
Latino. Or I'm half white. I'm not Latino. I don't count. Or I don't speak Spanish. I definitely
don't count. I don't want people to keep thinking that way. There should be no
gatekeeping to your personal cultural identity, right? Cultural and identity are a celebration of who
you are and how you relate back to a wider group of people. It's something so beautiful as the music,
as the food, as the regions you come from, as that national pride you get when you see
yourselves winning the World Cup, right? And I don't want people to feel excluded from that.
And I know that even within our own culture, we can absolutely gatekeep each other. I didn't use to
speak Spanish as a kid. For whatever reason, I just wasn't picking it up fast enough. And I used to
I think I made fun of by it by my, you know, family.
Same here.
But then, right?
It's awful.
And then, but at school, I would get made fun of for being Latino.
So I couldn't win.
Yeah.
So it was, you know, I wanted a place where we felt safe to talk about these things.
And we felt accepted for no matter who we were, right?
So we built, after that panel, we decided myself won Vaca, Elaine Gomez, Joe Tirado,
Judith Barbosa, and then we had for Nano join us.
We decided to make this thing.
And then we became a nonprofit.
We started growing and we started growing.
And we started doing deals with big companies.
Like we have PlayStation did a career fair with us recently.
Niantic sponsors is every year.
Red Bull does events with us all the time.
And those are big names and those are companies.
And it's so important to have the big, the little, the indie devs, the small, whoever.
It's so important to have them all representing here to show that being Latinx matters to everyone, right?
and show that those companies do take us seriously.
They do want to hire us.
They do want to see us represented.
And the cool thing is that we often work with companies' employee resource groups.
For those that don't know, an employee resource group is a group inside of the company
that is made specifically for the people at that organization to talk about their
experiences that sort of identity, be it a woman, be it Latino, et cetera.
And I, you know, they didn't really exist in 2013, up until maybe like 2016-17.
And then when I started seeing them in my workplace
and started seeing a place I could, you know, interact.
So we work with those a lot.
And we do career fairs.
We're doing Unidos online, October 15th through 17th,
which is a stream of all sorts of beautiful content
from, you know, a celebration of Latinidad and what that means.
Today at 5 p.m. PDT is our first episode of Nuestra Cucina,
which is a cooking show.
Yeah, it's very cool.
We have a lot of cool guests coming on.
They're going to bring their favorite family recipes
or whatever abuelitas.
Today is an abuelita soup recipe
and they're going to talk about it.
Both parties are going to make it
because we have a hostess, Lullaboo,
who's going to be talking through the whole thing.
And they're just going to share,
it's just like sharing food together.
What's more Latino than having a meal, right?
What's more culturally identifiable
for most places than having a meal?
So I thought that, I don't know,
I think it's really cool.
No, that sounds really cute.
I love that.
Thank you.
And Twitch was amazing enough to sponsor that
and to sponsor Unido.
So we're very grateful for them for all that work.
What time does that go live today?
5 p.m. if you are in L.A. or in the PT time zone.
I'll have to tell my wife.
My wife forbids me from showing anything food related at home because it always
It makes me hungry and then she has to like cook for me.
Would you guys like to do an episode together?
We have a couple slots left.
Evan, you should do it.
You should do it, Evan.
Yeah, you guys can be together and making a recipe together,
and our hostess could be talking to y'all.
Nice, yeah.
I'll have to ask my wife, but I think that sounds cool.
Yeah, I mean, it's worth exploring.
Awesome.
I'm hungry now, by the way.
I'm always hungry.
I actually haven't eaten any breakfast at all.
I'm starving right now.
By the way, you know, Abolita's soup recipe,
that's so funny that you're doing that in the middle of summer
because just,
Just recently, me and Dennis were talking about this.
Like, why did our moms always give us hot soup in the summer?
And it's like, I think it's like a Latino thing where like the hotter it gets,
the more you crave hot soup for some reason.
And it's true.
Like even just last week, my wife made some some hot chicken soup and it was like 100 degrees.
And man, I devoured that thing.
I was like, this is so delicious.
You're sweating tear out.
You're like sweating bullets, right?
Yeah.
The Tia so all soggy because you're here.
hands.
Yeah.
I think you're right.
Oh, my God.
Because my aunt, when I would stay at her house in the summers, would make me a hiako,
which is like a Colombian soup.
I was so hot.
What the heck?
Yeah.
It's weird.
Yeah.
If you're on a, if you're on a Hispanic people TikTok, it's like a common, it's a common joke.
I love Hispanic people TikTok.
It's real funny.
Like all the parties going on and the kids sleeping on like a chair.
Oh, yeah.
I can relate.
I can relate.
Yeah. Big really, yeah. So, I mean, so if, if, if, if someone of Latinx origin wanted to reach out to you guys and say, take, I was say take part, but I think that's the wrong word completely. But to make use of some of your guys' resources, how would they do that?
So we have a lot of communities they can join. All of them are heavily moderated just for safety. But we do have Discord.
dot gg slash latinx we have a lincoln group if you're looking for more professional connections
we have a facebook group we have twitter we have the facebook page um the discord uh is where i tend to just
kind of hang out because i kind of like hang out on discord um as evan knows you message me on here i'll
probably answer within an hour um but yeah if you want to hang out on there uh we also try to do like
for fun events too just when people get to know each other it's been a little while since we did one
but we did have a movie night.
We do cookouts where everybody made their favorite food.
Obviously, it's the pandemic, so we're not going to be in person right now.
But everybody made food, and we were all talking about it.
We had a playlist going.
We just released on Twitter this morning our playlist for Unidos.
We're not playing it during Unidos because we don't want to be DMCA'd,
but it's really good.
It's like Jay Balvin, Ozuna.
It's like a party list, and it's made by Fernando.
Shout us to Fernando.
Yeah, Fernando has a lot of.
has a really good taste of music.
But if you guys see anything that's missing on there,
message me or post it or tweet at us and be like,
hey, you guys are missing this one song.
It's great, and we will add it there.
We just want to make like a really nice.
Do you have, do you have, uh,
La Inconforma by Grupo He?
Oh man, I got to go look.
That's, so we had our NGCT town hall last night and,
uh, we had a Latinx theme.
Oh, yeah, they skipped it.
before we went live.
And I requested that song.
And like, right when it started playing,
that's when our town hall started.
I was like, man, that was like the best song.
So for those that don't know,
here's the song right here.
I'll play it for everyone.
It's pretty.
It's a pretty jam.
It's actually terrible quality.
I'll have been finding a better one now.
It's like.
It's like being put it from somebody's phone onto a phone.
Yeah, I know.
It's a little better.
It's a little better.
It's an old song, too.
So it's not going to.
that you know sorry it's an old song but if you if you don't if you don't dance
when you hear this song you you don't have any soul like I don't think it's a vanger
it's a you know the funniest place I've heard Latin music recently there's a
have you guys heard of the last bookstore yeah yeah yeah it's this really
gorgeous old bookstore and there's like like 20 different rooms you get lost in
it and I went in there with my friend
she had never been.
And so I was just going to sit and wait for her.
And they were blasting at full volume, loud music.
It was like Elvenau, like El Beeper.
Yeah.
And so I was literally just as loud as a club.
And I'm hitting in a bookstore, like kind of dancing to myself.
Nobody else is dancing.
They're all reading books.
Totally worth it, though.
That's great.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I love blasting that stuff whenever I'm anywhere.
It's like, I'm sorry.
This is me.
You had to deal with it.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
And the last bookstore is awesome.
It's a good bookstore.
And they apparently are managed by Latinos.
So like if you want to request music, yeah, that's so I finally asked somebody.
I was like, hey, like, what is this?
I mean, it's great.
But what is it?
They're like, oh, the manager is Latino.
So on Fridays we have Latin music.
I was like, yeah, okay.
That's great.
So there's a question.
The way you said that, they kind of sounded like very reluctant.
Like, yeah, you know, he's brown.
So we got to listen to this stuff.
I'm more of a rock kind of person.
But, you know, I guess I can jam to it.
I kind of, he definitely gave that vibe.
Or I think he was worried that I was upset about it.
Oh, I wonder if that happens a lot.
I imagine it does, right?
Yeah, I imagine it does.
But I grew up with that.
And I love reading books.
I'm like a huge avid book reader.
So my childhood was spent trying to like get through whatever book with like Gloria
Stefan playing in the background at full speed.
So, you know, whatever.
Yeah.
With me and my mom, it was, what was it?
It was all, it was all rock in Spanish.
So it's like
Manan, like all those groups
I can't name any of them
because I don't know the names of the group
I was like too young and never asked
But like if I hear one of the songs
I'm like yep I know this song
Like oh I know this song right
She was a
A rockero
Yeah no she was
And that's the funny things
Like I didn't realize
That's what she was until way way later
When I was in high school
And I was like getting in the metal
And stuff like that
And I'm like yeah
You freaking Metallica
And then like just recently
I was over at my mom's and dad's place
And she was cleaning
And she had her Pandora
on or whatever.
They still use Pandora because they're old, right?
I'm trying to get him on the Spotify.
And she was listening to, like, I think it was like Monash or something like that.
And then right after it was like inner Sandman by Metallica and I'm like, like, like, what?
And like, Mom, you're like just like, yeah, like, it's a great song.
I'm like, okay.
Super surprise.
Yeah, super surprise.
Yeah, she's dead.
Imagine if your mom was cooler than you.
Wow.
She is, she's a way cooler than me.
Yeah.
It's actually, I guess that's something.
I don't know if it's better, but definitely more different than San Francisco.
There's definitely more Latinos in L.A., I think, than San Francisco.
So I do hear more Spanish music as I'm walking out and about.
I will say that, you know, obviously, like, unfortunately, right,
I see a lot of my people in the service industry, making us food, et cetera.
I saw that a lot in San Francisco.
But here what made me really happy is I went for a hike.
Like I think the LA thing to do is I guess hike with people.
You just like, oh, let's go hiking at like really early hours.
And it was a lot of Latinos.
It was like, art people up and down with music.
It was like the thing to do on a Sunday, I guess.
Yeah.
I love that.
Yeah, that's why like I remember when I was at high school,
I got into a fight with a teacher because he, I forgot what he said exactly,
but he more or less said that, you know, like he was calling me a minority.
And back then when I was in high school, I was like very, or not very, but I was definitely more rebellious than I am now.
You know, and I was like, what do you mean? I'm a minority.
Like everywhere I look, there's Mexican people.
Everyone around me speak Spanish.
And looking back, yeah, like, yeah, it's true.
Like, I never really felt like out of place growing up in L.A.
just because there were so many Latinos here, you know.
I felt like it was not necessarily like I was living in Mexico, but if,
felt like Mexicans ran L.A., you know, like, everywhere you go, like, you don't have to
speak English in L.A. Like, you could speak Spanish and walk into a store and people are going to
understand what you're asking them. And I just remember, like, arguing with his teacher
telling me, like, you're the minority. I was telling him, you're the minority. There's more of me
than you. How dare you call me a minority, you know?
Damn. Start shit already, huh? I mean, starting shit early. Yeah. Yeah. I guess you're
How was that, by the way, grew up in Florida?
So I went to a private Catholic school for most of my childhood.
So all of my classmates except for two were white, right?
So I would have a very different experience during the day,
but then my abuela would pick me up right after school.
And abuelitas and moms just take you on all the errands ever.
Like you never, like I don't know about you guys,
but I was always sitting in a car board out of my mind
or sitting in a department store board out of my mind.
That was my childhood.
And a lot of everywhere she visited was Latino run and owned.
And I didn't realize this till later in life, but I think she was really uncomfortable in anything else, right?
So she stuck to who she knew.
She stuck to the bakery owned by Orlando.
She stuck to the tailor run by her friend, blah, blah, blah.
Then we would go to her friend's houses.
And so my daytime was filled with like a very like Catholic in a sort of white sense,
that sort of a white purview thing.
but my evenings were always Cuban, Cuban, Cuban, Cuban, Cuban to the endth degree.
And it was just such a huge contrast.
It was great.
Loved it.
But looking back, that whiplash must have been a lot for like a child, right?
Yeah.
I think that's interesting you said that too because a lot of people don't realize how freaking close Cuba is to Florida.
It's like super close.
And like if you guys have never been to Florida, there's like certain.
areas there where it's like you're in in havana right pretty much yeah i feel like um i feel like any
place you go to you'll find those like areas where it's like you know it's like a like a i'm trying
to think of like the the generic like um name for a place uh little italy right i feel like i feel like
every city has like a little italy right and that's like where all the italians are that's for all
the italian food is like if you go anywhere outside of there you're kind of like a bum right um and i feel
like you know that's it's it's kind of the same with
pretty much any culture, right?
Like, I know of a good Ethiopian spot, like, in Hacena Heights, actually, even.
And it's really good.
You should shake it out.
I'm trying to think off what street.
It's off Kalima, but it's like, you know, but, you know, that's like a giant street.
Ethiopian food is like one of my favorite cuisines.
Oh, sure, yeah.
If I can remember.
I have to drive out there to find it.
If you do end up going there, Christina, let us know because we're pretty close to Asiana Heights,
so you can stop by the office and maybe we can grab a bite together.
Oh, I love that.
Oh, my gosh.
Thank you.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
It'll be Dennis's treat.
Oh, thank you, Dennis.
For sure.
And you're all scared.
Yeah, no problem.
Any time.
I'm always down to treat people to Emil.
Yeah.
Oh, I shared my playlist with y'all.
Sorry, my playlist.
I shared Fernando's playlist for Latinx and gaming.
Yeah, we drop the link in the Twitch chat, but I'm going to drop it again
in case people missed it.
Yeah, and they feel free to make comments.
I have to remind Fernando to add songs.
It's a little bit more modern, I think, this playlist,
but we do have others that have like,
we have a classic Christmas playlist,
because I don't know if you guys ever listen
to Latino Christmas music, but it's very fun.
Yeah.
I got one and let me know if you recognize this song.
I'm sure Ivan does.
It's kidding.
Feliz Naviidad.
No, this one.
I would hear this every single
year and I never
to steal what it was
it was older.
Belen?
El Guito de Belan.
Yep.
Everyone's confused.
I'm like, what's going on?
I actually have
this song on a record
from when I was a kid.
The record covers like all scratched out.
Like I drew all over it.
But yeah, I have it.
My mom made me record this song.
So there's a recording of me singing this somewhere
on a record.
That's adorable.
That's super cute.
A really bad singer, by the way.
Don't ask for that.
Same here.
So I was wondering to,
someone in the chat were saying,
as a Mexican growing up,
there's a universal playlist that must include
El Beeper, La Vaca,
and any Los Angeles Asuleas songs.
And I was about to say,
I'm noticing a huge,
lack of, like,
the big classics, right?
They're like at any party.
Like, yeah.
I'm not seeing La Vaca.
I'm seeing any Aja Salas.
I know.
I think Fernando.
trying to be real cool.
Ah, okay, okay.
You know what I mean?
But yes, I think we should add them.
I will confer with him as he's the owner.
But I agree with you.
La Vaca needs to be on everything.
Yeah, it's one of those things too that like,
and I'm sure maybe you've experienced this
and maybe I've been as well.
Like I know when I was younger,
I hated my parents' music.
I thought it was the worst stuff ever.
I don't want any of it, right?
Like I was not about it.
And now that I'm older,
I'm like jamming to like all these old songs,
like old songs, right?
But I got like Los Bukis, like, Marc-untenu Siles on rotation.
I got a lot of cumbia on here.
And, you know, some mariachi, but I don't think my mom was too, like, too much of that stuff.
But, like, it's really funny how, like, for myself as a way for me to, like, connect to my own culture, a lot of it's through music.
Because my Spanish is absolutely terrible.
Like, I have this issue where, like, I'm not saying I'm too smart folks, right?
Just, like, I just get in preface this, I'm not saying I'm super smart.
But what I'm saying is that when I was a kid, I read a lot, right?
I read a ridiculous amount and I spoke a lot of English.
So I have what I would hopefully say is a kind of like, you know, extended vocabulary in the sense of like, you know, that I just know words, right?
I know a good amount of words.
And I try to be very specific when I can.
So because I don't have that same level of vocabulary in Spanish when I try to speak in Spanish, I'm trying to find the word in my brain to what that means and I can't find it.
So if, so for.
for me, a way for me to kind of like get rid of that anxiety is actually through music.
So like I'll sing songs in Spanish like in the car on my own like super loud and whatnot.
And and like comes out perfect.
But the minute I say anything without like any music backing me, I'm like super no salvo kid.
Like super bad about it.
Yeah.
So that's my.
That's my way of saying that we need some market tennis at least.
Okay, okay, definitely.
Music is such a big connector in our culture.
Through music, through dance, we, you know, it's crazy.
My grandmother had the best memory for lyrics.
That's always one of my favorite things I'll remember about her,
is that she could memorize any song, something from the 19,
so she's born in 1929.
Something from the 1930s, she knew it.
Something from the 1950s, she knew it.
She had all of these classic Big Band Suite style Cuban songs memorized.
Oh, nice.
Yeah.
I just, you know, every time I hear them, I can't help but things.
about her and how some of our songs are like almost feels like a hundred years old right like some
songs are classic classic classic and then gumias and old beautiful ballads and you hear them and they
transcend generations right you're listening to the songs that your parents listen to now and you
relate to them on an emotional level i love that i love how interconnected it makes us feel yeah it gives me
feelings of like being that kid asleep at the party right at like two in the morning my parents is still
like jamming out.
I was that baby.
Mom, I want to go.
I'm talking.
I know.
Yeah, it's funny when I see those memes,
I'm always like, yeah, that was me.
That was life, yeah.
But like, now that I have a daughter, you know,
like obviously we haven't been partying a lot
because of the pandemic, but now that I have a daughter,
like I can understand why my parents did that
because I just feel like, you know,
Latinos in general, we'd like to party.
We like to have a lot of fun.
We like to celebrate, you know?
Like, it's always, it's always, everything's an occasion to just gather with your friends and family and celebrate and enjoy life, right?
And looking back, I'm like, yeah, that's what my parents were doing.
Like, sure, they were keeping me up to two in the morning, but at the same time, they were letting me run wild with like 20 of my cousins and having a time of my life, basically.
And looking back, yeah, those are like some of the best.
times I've ever had. So thank you parents for partying. Yeah. For me, music with my parents is
kind of interesting. So my parents, they're from two very different parts of Mexico. My mom's
from Halisco where basically all they listen to is mariachi. That's it. My dad's from Sakatecas
where all they listen to is tamborazo. And growing up, that's like all I listen to from them is
mariachi and tamborazo but I love tamborazo music even as a kid it's amazing and for those
that don't know um tamorazo music it's uh there's no words it's just drums and you know saxophone
clarinet trumpet and really loud like symbols and things like that and it was invented by the germans who who immigrated to
Sakatecas in like the 1800s and it's cool you should play some Dennis if you have some it's
I'm looking for for one do you have a recommendation any any bands or new songs yeah I'll send you a link
yeah because I think I might know I're talking about but I also don't want to like like play the
wrong thing and it's actually kind of a you know why you're finding that it's actually kind
of funny because my mom's from Michoacan and my dad's actually from he's from Nicaragua
so completely different but it's funny because my dad's basically Mexican because he he's
lived in Mexico for like four or five years or something and then he met my uncle and that's when
they immigrated over to the US so he has a really interesting story as well shout out to the CIA
let me uh let me send your links you can yeah play this yeah it's really cool music it's it's like i said
it's if you listen to it and you think about german polka you're like wow that's literally like a polka
okay get ready here we go here we go might be loud all right okay yeah under this
yeah it's a funny thing actually i had no idea that's that's what's this is called yeah
yeah and then uh i also grew up you know riding horses with my dad and going to rodeos and things like
that and this is this is literally like all we would listen to like growing up this was 24-7 my dad was
playing this basically and and uh i don't i don't play 24-7 now but i definitely you know whenever
whenever i'm feeling like you know i want to you know get back to my roots is what i listen to
yeah we tried asking ivan for a photo of him on a horse once and he he he sent like the most like
janky like off like you could even tell it was like a horse photo i'll look for some photos of me
on a horse right now um Amanda wants to she wants to elaboration on the CIA
comment. TLDR in the 1980s-ish, the Iran-Contra affair was a thing, and the CIA was funneling
drugs and money into what would have been communist Nicaragua, and my dad was for a hot minute
on the side of the communists, and then you realize this is not a good thing. Everybody's dying.
These people aren't really communist. I'm going to leave it to the left, pretty much. It was a
really bad situation back there. That's why I say shout us at the CIA, because they're out here
sticking their fingers in every single Latin American country.
Oh my God, yeah. The amount of strife we have.
Obviously, I studied with the focus on Latam, but Jesus Christ, like, it never ends, man.
There's always something.
Yeah, and that's why I found, like, all these arguments against, like, immigration and stuff,
like, really funny to me because they're like, you know, they should stay over there.
I'm like, okay, well, like, we're the reason why they're, you know, they're here.
Like, they left because we, we, we, we as a United States country, right, I do consider
myself American, I do live living in America, blah, blah, right?
But it's like, we've done some dumb shit in the past, and now it's coming back.
to pay us back and now we have to deal with it. And that's that's, and that's how it works.
Not to get too spicy, but I would say it's really funny to me.
I get spicy, get spicy. The people that are most against immigration are also the same people
taking vacations in Cancun with fake vaccine passports like that.
Ooh, hot take. No, I mean, it's true though, right? It's true. It's, it's super true.
Like, I saw this video, I think it was on TikTok where some, some dudes like, you know,
he goes to the people at rallies and he's talking about like the stuff in Afghanistan.
And the people were like, oh, yeah, it's so sad what's happening over there.
I can't believe we left, you know, all those poor people, blah, blah.
And then the guy said, yeah, well, I agree.
We should probably just open up our borders and let them come through.
Well, actually, it's like, okay, like, well, what do you want?
Right.
Like, what are you looking for?
And I feel like that's a very American kind of thing, right?
It's like, I want this to be fixed, but I don't want it to like ever affect me.
And then we're here like, well, too bad, you know, got to deal with it.
So listen to my music and watch my photos of a.
Oh my God. I'm sorry.
I just saw the photo Ivan on the horse.
Here you go, folks.
What is he? I haven't on a horse.
That's me.
That should be your Twitter put for the month.
Oh, my God.
That's funny, dude.
I wish you could open this picture with the music you were playing earlier.
I can.
Hold up.
I have more pictures.
I just got to find them.
For full effect, here we go.
wrong browser
I got like five browsers up in here for different reasons
there we go
just imagine this and then imagine Ivan
and then that horse
the horse is dancing too
my my dad actually has a dancing horse
are this really that's cool
and this is the music that they train
most dancing horses in
in Mexican rodeo
to dance to this type of music
I'm going to save this photo
I'm never letting it go
It's funny
I actually have a photo
Myself on a horse too
Sort of but not really
I know if I can find it though
Because it's on my personal
Facebook and I don't think I'm logging that thing forever
But uh
I didn't do one telling the story
But uh
Was it like
It was like in like the current neighborhood
Where my parents are living now
And some dude was like just driving down
Or driving walking down the street
With like a horse
just like legit there's just a horse walking down
this is like suburban Anaheim so it's not like you know anything crazy like that
and he's like hey do you want me to give your son a ride in this horse
and mom's like sure thing and then that and then there's just there's just a photo of me on a horse
as a kid I'm trying to see if I can find it here because I'm not going to lie this
this photo's pretty dope I'm sorry that's definitely the 90s though because could you imagine
doing that now they'd be like hell no you'll kid oh no yeah for sure
Sure, yeah. Well, I guess maybe like these days, right, they might want the horse around for their medicine.
That's true.
Had to do it to them. Sorry, folks.
Yeah, how to do it. Sorry, folks. This is what you get when you listen to the N60 podcast.
So, yeah, music, horses, love it all.
I'm sorry, I just can't get over the photo. This photo of Ivan on a horse seat. It's so funny.
I'll send you more. I have much better photos and videos and stuff.
Yeah, for sure, because you're like heavy squirt.
Quentin in this one, and I'm pretty sure, judging by the lighting in the photo, I'm going to throw it up again,
judging in this photo, I'm pretty sure you're staring directly at the sun. So, yeah. Yeah, I want a whole
album of this stuff. You know, this with like the right editing, I think could be like a really
dope album cover. My mixtape? It could be your mixtape album cover, yeah, for sure. You should do it.
So we do have a few questions here for Christina that I saw in the chat that I wanted to
are out there. If anyone has any other questions for Christina,
disrupt them in the chat and we'll ask them. The first one is actually not a question,
but it's a nice comment that I agree with, so I want to repeat it. And S.K. Vera,
how you pronounce it, said, I don't really have a question, but I just want to say,
the world needs more people like Christina. And I agree. Yeah, Christina is a very, very nice person
and doing very, very nice things.
She's awesome, man.
And if more people were like Christina,
the world would be a better place.
Unreal feeds says,
not sure if I'm late here,
but does Christina have any tips she might have for Hispanics
when it comes to joining other communities
without feeling less?
I don't know necessarily what they mean by that,
but I'm assuming they might feel like out of place joining communities.
Do you have any tips for them?
I'm trying to figure out what communities they mean.
Do they mean like gaming communities or?
I'm assuming gaming communities.
Yeah, yeah.
You know, bring your full self to the table.
Like our panel titles all say, you are enough, you do belong here.
Like you are awesome.
You know, you contribute something interesting and beautiful to whatever gaming community
comes to, to whatever you bring to the table.
And I really bring that with you.
I mean, Yvonne over here rides dancing courses.
Like, how is that not the course?
coolest thing you've ever heard.
Like, Dennis almost got kidnapped by somebody riding a horse.
Exactly, yeah.
You know, just frankly, like, I think what's really cool is having a cultural melting
point of people.
I love getting to know other people and their favorite foods and their culture and what they
have.
And, you know, when you're joining something, bring that out, right?
You don't have to maybe interview yourself with every single thing.
Although if you do intro yourself with a picture of a horse, I still think that's the coolest thing ever.
That's true.
Yeah.
honestly, like, put yourself out there for the,
and if people don't accept that being Latino is part of who you are,
then they don't really deserve to have you in their community, quite frankly,
because it is part of who you are, and that matters.
So Unreal feeds elaborated here, they said,
I'm just always insecure in gaming communities because I'm always scared
how they might react to me, having an accent, or finding out I'm not like them.
So Unreal Feed is Mexican.
So I yeah, I mean, I don't know, it's like I guess my advice would be just a lot of that's probably in your head to be honest.
Like a lot of times people think everyone's staring at them when in reality like they don't even noticing you.
You know, just because you have an accent and doesn't doesn't mean you're any different than anyone.
It just means you have an accent.
You know, it's not that big of a deal to have an accent.
I think everyone has an accent.
Yeah.
So I was just, my advice to them would be just, you know, don't let it get to your head so much.
Just understand, you know, it's okay to be different because being different is what actually makes a community, a community.
Because if a community was just all the same people, is that really community?
You know, it might be, but kind of not really.
you know, it's our differences that kind of help us grow and be better.
So embrace it, you know, embrace the fact that you're different and embrace the fact that you have an opportunity to teach others about yourself and why you're different.
And don't be shy about your accent, you know.
The fact that you speak another language is incredible, unimpressive.
In the U.S., I think we have a pretty low number of people who can, you know, speak two languages at once, right?
And here you are learning English, which is not easy.
to learn, like, by any means, and coming into the room and speaking with people, and if they can't
respect that, if they can't respect you for who you are, they don't deserve you, right? Like, this is a
huge part of who you are. You are proud to be Mexican. You're proud to be who you, you know,
you're proud of your culture and your identity. Don't let anybody take that away from you,
and that community isn't for you. And I will say there's hundreds of gaming communities
meant for one game alone, right? There's hundreds of gaming communities for CSGO,
hundreds of gaming, like, thousands of gaming communities for League of Legends. You'll find a place.
Keep looking if you can't find them now.
Yeah.
And the sad reality is, too, is that in my experience,
most gaming communities have some toxicity in them.
You know, I've been called slurs and bad words and whatever,
just from people hearing my voice as well.
So that's another thing I think.
You have to understand, like, I'm not saying you have to expect this toxicity.
but just know that, you know, there's people like that out there, unfortunately.
And those people don't really matter, you know, like if someone is mad or treating you bad
because you're Mexican, then they're the one that's wrong, not you know.
So to stay strong and be yourself and embrace your differences.
Yeah. And I would also say, too, like, like,
Find a space, right?
Like try to find a space where people accept you.
People want to be around you.
People, you know, I wasn't say worship.
Worship is the wrong way.
I don't know.
I'm using the wrong words.
Cherish you, right?
As it for, for who you are.
Not to like, you know, plug my own stuff, but like, for example, in my own discord,
like, I try to, I try to kind of cater it to a few of the Hispanic people I know who are, like,
in the, in the N60 community, right?
And we'll talk about, like, a bunch of, like, Mexican shit all day pretty much.
or whatever, right? Whether it's like music or food or, you know, like, you know, things like
hip hop and, and stuff like that, you know, there's also nothing wrong with, like, creating
your own space, you know, and like filling it with people who you want to be around, who you
know are going to respect you and vice versa. And not just that, but just people that you can
have, like, a fun time with and also play some games, right? Because I think ultimately,
that's like the big thing, right? Just hanging out with folks, you know, having a good time
and playing some games. At least for me, that's really all I want. I'm a very simple person that way.
It's not simple.
No, it's not.
I have a question here from It's Laura Bear.
And it's Laura Bear wants to know.
How do you think Coco the movie impacted,
not just the Latinx community,
but everyone who speaks about it
and how it's broadest visibility.
What was your experience if you've watched it?
I cry every single time I watch Coco.
without fail, it is so embarrassing.
Dennis, can you play remember me, please?
No, I will cry.
And you guys are just going to have to keep that clip forever.
I love what Coco did.
Obviously, we're not perfect in how we are approaching
the complexity and the diversity of Latinx issues,
but it was such a love song to Mexico
and such a love song to the importance of family in Latin America.
And I remember, I'm a really big Disney fan, so bear with me.
I remember watching one of the behind-the-scenes specials about how for the abuela,
the family matriarch, she had a spoon, and she was supposed to like hit them over the head with a spoon and stuff.
And somebody was like, actually, she would have a chancel.
Like, this is culturally, it's a small detail.
But to us, when we see it, we're like, I did have a shoe thrown at me once.
I totally remember that, you know, or more than that.
But it was so impactful.
And they made a really cool video last year, and I'll have to find it.
And it was like all the Latinos that worked on or around Coco and why they loved it and what they really liked about it.
And it was, I cried the entire thing because they weren't trying to be emotional or anything, but sometimes they would be like, and I got to work on a project and I hope my dad's proud of me and stuff like that.
I love it.
And I know that we're having a Colombian movie and coming out Encanto coming out next year.
I will say that I wish, I know this is spicy, but I wish it was a Colombian music producer on it and not Lin-Manuel.
Miranda. He's great in all, but like, he's, he's, you know, I, I want Colombian stories told by
Colombian people. And so I guess that would be really my, my only comment in terms of, like,
they're not getting it perfect. They're improving. But we should push Disney and other,
you know, content creators in terms of game development, in terms of movies, to do a little bit
more. Yeah. So I was going to throw on real quick. I haven't before saying anything. I like
Limo, Minmo Manuel Miranda, but I'm also kind of like super tired of them too.
Like listen to you like you're great good job on everything you're doing
Stop for a second
He's awesome
He is I'm just I'm just tired of him
You know I feel like I've seen him everywhere in the past like two years
You know
It's okay to see him everywhere
But I will say that I have Puerto Rican friends who do not like him
That they think that he's actually not good for Puerto Rico
Really?
Yeah my friend Corali
Who runs PRGDA with a group of other people
She basically said that he was supposed to host a free show at
their university of Hamilton, which right, you know, the prices for Hamilton are absurd for even us.
I can't imagine those prices flying in Latin American, you know, sort of spaces. But then he
had it instead at a really private, nice venue, basically a huge slap in the face to Puerto
Ricans. So most of the people that were going to have access to Hamilton no longer did.
And they were like, do you even know us? Do you even know your people anymore? So that's kind of the
sentiment there. I get that, yeah, for sure. Yeah. Going back to, going back to Coco real quick,
though. I just wanted to say, like, I agree with Christina.
Like, it was an awesome movie. And I didn't cry. I did get very, very sad because it was
actually very, very well written and also very true, I think, to how Latinos actually, you know,
think about their deceased relatives, you know, like for me, you know, I, I always feel like
my grandpa's with me and one of the reasons why is because I actually wear his wedding ring.
Like this is a wedding ring and my grandpa.
My grandpa got married with this ring in like 1920 something, 100 years ago, you know.
And I love my grandpa as a kid and, you know, I always feel like he's with me and watching Coco,
you know, and like the symbolism of, yeah, like your, your abuelito is still watching over you.
it's very it's very emotional yeah yeah I mean so I have a real I had a really close
relationship with my abuela she basically raised me and so I have a tattoo for her and
everything on my wrist like she she's with me all the time and so anytime Disney pulls those
freaking tear jerkers out what about family like Moana Tzu her relationship with her
grandma that movie I cry non-stop it's just so emotional for me I just family is so important to
you know most Latinos right it's like a fundamental part
a mental part of who we are.
I'm going to cry.
Oh, it's, it's, uh, it's true.
You're trying to be cry on this podcast.
How to do it to him.
How to do it to him.
Sorry.
You know, I love Coco.
I think other than Up, it's the only movie that, like,
really, like, makes a tear up.
And the funny thing about Up is, like,
up is so, like, heavy, like,
front-loaded with all the sad shit, like, in the very beginning, that, like, once, once that,
like, initial scene is over, I don't care about the movie. But with Coco, it kind of, like,
it, like, ends in the sad stuff, so you have to watch it for that payoff, right? Like,
I, I, I, I remember last time I watched it, I watched it with, uh, with, with my partner,
and they've never seen it before. And they look at me like, why are you crying? I'm like,
this movie's so sad.
You know, I see my family.
And yeah, anyway, representation in movies is great.
One of the major connecting pieces to bring it all back was music.
Like the reason that she, the abuelita, abuelita, abuelita,
like remembered everything was because of the song.
And it reminded her of her time with her father.
Oh, oh, so well written.
Is it sad or messed up that I know that when my mother passes,
I know exactly what song I'm going to play like at her funeral?
because there's like a good list of songs like in the back of my mind that like just remind me of her like immediately.
And I have like three or four songs.
I know for sure that like when that happens,
because there's going to be a DJ there, right?
Because we're going to have a party, right?
No matter what, right?
Absolutely.
I'm like, this song has to play.
So I have that in my list.
I don't know for my dad.
My dad's all over the place.
I'll play some like men at work or something.
He's like the wonkiest musical taste.
But for my mom for sure, like I know exactly what song is going to be.
So I think that's also why Coco hit me so hard because I personally love music like so so much.
I mean, me and I have been talking about music here, like almost every single episode, right?
Even shows where there's nothing to talk about music wise, we'll try to fit it in somewhere because we always have something to say about whatever.
Donda, way better than certified lover boy.
And I'm looking back a few weeks after, I'm sorry, folks, hot takes.
You can't take that away from me.
Donda's here to stay forever.
Anyway.
Wow.
Are you serious right now?
I had to bring it back to something a little more positive.
So everyone ended up crying the entire podcast,
talking about her grandmas and her mom's one.
Some of us cheering up.
What happened?
The hell?
This is the part of the party where like everyone's like,
it's like two, three in the morning, right?
We're all sitting by the bonfire.
Someone's playing some like, I don't know,
some I chint there or something.
And we're all just crying, right?
That's going to always ends up.
Actually, you know what happens late night at my family's parties?
We talk about ghosts.
That's like so, do you guys do that?
You see that too, yeah, yeah.
It's so weird.
We have a lot of ghost stories in my family.
And one of my tias, oh, my mom's going to get so mad that I said this in public.
One of my tias is psychic.
So like, okay.
Yeah.
There's always like one Tia who's like, I can see them, right?
Espritual.
Yeah.
Has your, has your Tia ever told you anything that like?
Came true?
Yeah.
Not as it came true, but like maybe freak you out a little bit.
So my Tia, so I, she's in Colombia, so I really get to see her that often.
But the stories about her are pretty crazy.
She predicted that my parents would be in a car accident.
And she knew when it was going to happen.
And she knew when it happened.
So this is all obviously secondhand.
This was in like 1988 and I was not born there.
But it did happen.
It was a pretty big thing.
And it's pretty crazy.
And then she also knew the history of a house because a ghost told.
her and see this is like outside of like Latino audiences I feel like people are like what the
hell but a ghost told her and she was like oh yeah this is all true and they went and looked at
public records and it was all true down to the ladder so I actually I kind of believe in that stuff
you know I'm trying not to trying to not take it too seriously but at the same time I definitely
late at night and I'm like I'm not even Catholic anymore and I'm still praying so
I have some Jaws and chat saying,
someone go grab an egg.
All that stuff, all that stuff about, you know,
La Yorona,
the cuckooie,
you know,
the malohoho,
La Mano Negra, etchete de robo,
all that stuff,
like, I feel like even if you don't believe it,
you still do it.
You still do it just in case.
Yeah, yeah.
Just in case that this egg can get rid of all the bad spirits from me,
I'm going to rub it on myself.
See what happened.
Right.
When people play with Vigi boards,
they would do it in parties in like middle school and high school,
I'd be like, I'm not fucking with this.
So you're all crazy.
Yeah.
You're all crazy.
I'm going home.
Yeah.
Screw that.
Yeah.
Twin Dad has a pretty good question here.
So twin dad wants to know,
similar to Coco,
are there any video games that you'd like to shout out for their story?
Games for their story.
I'm trying to think.
There's a lot of Latino, like, game developers out there making stuff
that I think is really cool.
And not because it has my name, there's Chris Tails,
which is Colombian Run.
I love it.
It's really cool.
The demo is available on Steam if you want to check it out.
There's a couple of other titles coming out soon,
all by indie Latin publishers in Mexico and Colombia.
I would have to make y'all a list.
to make y'all a list, but they're doing great stuff in Latin America. When I worked at Unity,
one of the best parts of my job was that I would get to throw little baby conferences in Latam
for people. And the first time in 10 years, I got to go back to Columbia to see, not just obviously
to throw this event, but I got to see my family in 2018. I hadn't seen anybody for a decade. And so it was
really, really awesome. Sorry, off traffic. But what I got to know is there's a lot of games being made.
in Latin America, a lot of really cool indie titles that are actually really polished and really
beautiful and really well done. And I really want to make y'all a list. And so maybe I'll send that to you
guys afterwards. But there's cool stuff happening. Yeah. One of my favorite
Latinx musicians is Colombian, actually. Calli Uchis. I love her. I saw her live.
Oh, really? We did in San Francisco. Nice. In August Hall.
And it was very crowded, but she's gorgeous and amazing.
Yeah, she's amazing.
She's gorgeous.
Yeah, and like her voice, man.
Like, I could listen to her voice like for the rest of my life.
Can you play telepatia, please?
Of course.
By Kaliuchi.
One DMCA coming right up, folks.
Let's do it.
That's so good.
Yeah, that's also why I prefer.
her over other artists who are bigger now.
I'm like, one, she's dope, right?
Second, she looks amazing.
She says, you have to get to die, right?
She's a whole goddess, right?
And then third, right?
She's from, she's in Latin America.
So to me, it's like, it's just everything, right?
It's everything I want.
I want anything else.
Um, I shouldn't think of another artist off the top of my head.
I think she's Colombian too.
Everyone's from another Columbia.
Y'all out here doing music and stuff.
I think she's, okay.
I'm a Google list because if I'm wrong,
I don't know. Is it Shakira?
No. Well, I mean, Shakira is great, too.
I love Shakira. I love Shakira. She's amazing.
I love Shakira.
Yeah.
She's like, not just again, the singer, amazing-looking, blah, blah,
but she's also like super, super accomplished too,
which is like the most amazing thing.
She's like an ambassador for you to say if she plays like a million instruments.
She speaks like 50 languages and something like that.
It's great. Okay, so actually, it's actually Chilean.
So I'm glad I looked it up, so I'm not wrong.
But it's, uh, Mon La Ferte.
I don't know of her.
She's like a, she's like a, she's like a,
just like kind of rock alternative.
She did some of like Juanis and some other stuff before.
Can you play one of her songs?
I know we're going to get DMC it.
I'm so sorry.
That's, it's fine.
It won't get DMC it on SoundCloud because they don't care.
Let me say, trying to find,
this is the one she did with Juanis.
since pretty popular.
Yeah, she's dope too.
She's amazing.
Her voice too.
She's an amazing voice.
I'll throw up a
photo of her on
the podcast.
I got her
because I guess she does a lot of activism as well,
so there's like, you know,
hey, here am I with no top on
and I don't care.
Which is so super cool, right?
I mean, you know, go you, do your thing.
Both I don't want to get in trouble.
I love me, music is unbeat, man.
That's pretty.
This is a vibe right here.
I can get down with this.
I think I've seen her.
I think she might have a tiny desk concert.
She does.
It's actually Juanis and Mon La Ferte Tiny Desk.
I'll link it to you guys.
Here, this is her right here, folks.
She doesn't check her out.
She's great.
She's amazing.
The only problem is that my parents are going to kill me for her
because my dad is this thing where he listens in music.
he'll find that one song or one like artist and he just plays them incessantly.
So for like three months in the house, it's like all that I heard.
And like I really like her, but I stopped liking her because he played her so much.
So I had to wait for like that mental reset before I can like, you know, listen to her again without having like an issue with it mentally.
Natalie La Forcade is a Mexican songwriter and she's really good too.
I shared her tiny desk.
Oh yeah.
Let me check this out.
Yeah.
Sorry folks.
This is now a music podcast.
y'all can yeah yeah oh that's something i need to get into more is like modern current day
latin music because i i have such a it's it's so easy to get lost in like the sauce of like what's
happening over here in the u.s oh my god music makes me so like our music makes me so emotional
this is so pretty yeah yeah yeah latin music is very full of emotional
motion.
One of the bands I added on yesterday's town hall playlist and it's a Latin X band from Los Angeles
actually.
I remember you called the Lake Siders.
The Lake Siders?
I love that.
It's like they sound like old school do-wop type of music like from like the 1940s or 50s.
just a guy and a girl with like, you know, guitar and her singing. And, uh, it also,
it also makes me want to cry sometimes. I must admit, play this song Parachute by the Lake
Sater, Dennis. Let's get another DMCA on here. Yeah, let's do it. How many can we stack up?
Uh, is the Lake San Francisco? Now we're just sharing music, but that's like that's like that
I'm down. Yeah, I'm down. Yeah, I'm in the same way too. I love me and Dennis could do this all day
actually. Yeah, we literally go. Like, I would literally cancel all my minutes just to do this all day.
Yeah, this is a vibe.
I'm just to start throwing this up on the podcast, so people can watch it on this too.
Watch the video.
Any PC givers in chat?
Yeah.
Go find them.
Type in an exclamation point free PC in the chat for a free PC.
Oh, it works.
Me too.
Very bad.
Everyone do it.
It works.
So I shared with y'all this girl, Ladonia.
She's from San Francisco.
I love that name.
Latina Heritage.
Yeah.
Her music is badass.
I love that la don't yeah let me let me let me show this one up let me let me actually
throw it up on our on the stream so people can watch with us too and hang out there you go
visualizer songs to fill an empty head i love that recommendation thank you you too
i love this already oh yeah it's so much good music coming out a lot in america
For 1800s, amazing.
Yeah.
1900s, amazing.
2020's.
Ooh.
Just a vibe.
There we go.
It's probably the best panel of the podcast I've ever been on.
We just listen to me.
Hell yeah.
Dennis and I love music, man.
We talk music all the time.
I'm saving all this stuff of the way.
This is great.
So just by the way, folks,
for those who are wonderful,
I should have mentioned this when I first started the show.
I'm such a dummy for it.
But the group we were listening to before is called
the Mariachi Entertainment System.
So it's like a play on the Nintendo Entertainment System.
They're amazing.
I listen them all the time.
They literally do like video game covers,
but it's all like Marachi and it's amazing.
Like if you guys, like I feel like that's one of the things
that like I really want to listen to more is more,
is more Manachi because it's just so,
I don't know, there's something about it's like the horns, the guitar,
Yeah.
It's like it can be loud, but it can also be like really quiet at the same time.
It's really great.
Like I said earlier, like my mom from Halisco, all they listen to is mariachi.
But growing up, I was, I was like, I'm going to be like my dad.
I'm listening to Tamporazo and all that.
But now, you know, that I'm married, you know, my wife, she was born in Guadalajara.
So she's like hardcore mariachi lover.
And now that I've married, it's like, I've definitely gotten more.
more fond of Mariani and for those I've never listened to it like even if you don't speak
Spanish give it a chance because it's it's very beautiful music it's honestly like beautiful
it's not even like the best way to describe it but it's full of emotion full of passion
full of goal basically and yeah it's great music on that note here is the Avengers theme but
done in
mariachi,
which is so great.
I have to play it
because it just gives me
the fuels.
And I just got off
of finishing watching
like all the Marvel movies
over again.
So big,
big mood,
big fuels.
So cool.
Tell me you don't like
this violin.
Tell me you don't like this
flute.
Tell me you don't like this horn.
Come on.
If you don't,
sorry,
the same for you.
I don't even know how to take.
Just go.
I also want to say
that we are using them
as the finale
of our show.
show again this year. They finished out the show for us last year and they're finishing out again.
Really? That's awesome. I didn't know that they, because I saw that they were at packs,
like, in one of the videos, like, I don't follow them like the way they're like kind of quote unquote
should or whatever. But like I know they were doing stuff for like packs and whatnot and I'm actually
happy to see them kind of, well, I'm moving up, but like just getting more exposure because they're
great. They do really good stuff. The arrangements are amazing. Shout out to Tony Stark.
as I call him Antonio Stark.
Any collab with Marvel for Avengers themed products?
That'd be awesome, but that would be through Disney now.
And from what I know about Disney is that they are not easy to work with.
There's like a lot that goes into it.
So I'm sure if we started the conversation now with Disney to do Avengers stuff,
we'd probably see it in like 20, 2027 or something.
I don't know, I'm just going to talk it on my butt here,
but I'm assuming it would take forever.
It's Disney, right?
I mean, come on.
A monster that big does not, you know,
is not very nimble.
Anyway, yeah, music is great.
Love music.
It's awesome.
Yeah, it's something that's always been a part of, you know,
it's always been a part of my life.
There's always music playing in the house.
You know, my mom's cleaning.
She's playing music.
She's in the shower.
You're a little speaker, you know, playing music.
She's cooking, she's playing music.
You know, he's outside sleeping.
She's playing music.
So it just never not ends.
And I feel like that's very,
I'm not going to say it's a very
very you know
Latin American thing but you know
that's my experience right
is that there's always something playing
no matter what
someone has to have some background music going on
yeah B is right
I do listen to Kumbia when I mop
I bought a brand new mop
it's a sick mop right
I'm 31 now so now you know
I'm at the age where mops are exciting to me
and this is a dope mop
this is like the H510 elite
of mops
if it had airflow right
It's like perfect, right?
And I throw in the cumbias and I just mop up and, you know, I throw in the Fabuloso and it's great.
It's amazing, you know, it's like it's taking me back at home.
Can you link the mop?
Yes, I can actually.
Thank you.
It is the O. Cedar, which is a weird name.
The O. Cedar spin mop.
There's two ones.
There's two of them.
There's the easy ring.
And I'll show you both.
Show everyone here in the podcast.
I'm excited about this mob.
We just look at the wall.
or thing, I guess.
There's the regular
easy ring microfiber
spin mop, which is you put the thing inside
and then there's a little foot pedal
and it spins it and then it like, you know,
spins the water dry.
But then there's another one, the brand new one,
this one's like the Cadillac version of it,
that little blue top portion,
I'm showing everyone in stream now.
This is like the most slang part of the podcast.
Sorry, folks.
That blue little top part is actually a reservoir.
So as you take,
take up the clean water and you spin it, right? It drains out the dirty water as well. So you always
have fresh water coming in as opposed to you mopping with the old dirty water. So I got to get one of
these for my maid. Yeah, it's great. I also have a I also have a steam mop too with a little steamer. It's
great, dude. That thing's awesome. Cleans flour so well. So I'm, I'm like big on cleaning now.
I'm going to Hope Depot more often and stuff. I have, I literally have, I just bought this on Amazon.
on this. I'm going to show everyone this. This is a
pack of M4
screws. You can't really see it. But
specifically M4 screws
are for like the back of your monitor and stuff.
And apparently they're really hard to find. So I bought like a giant
pack for like seven bucks. And I'm not here
doing all kinds of stuff. I'm managing cables
and everything. But enough about me.
Management. So important.
Dude, I remember I used to hate how much
we clean as kids. And now
I'm my mom. Now I clean every weekend.
I have to make sure that everything
is clean when I'm done with it.
like who am I?
Get to finish all your food.
It's weird how we turn into our parents.
We do turn into our parents.
Don't tell my mom that though.
I mean, I think we pretty much ran out our time unless you guys want to chill with some more music.
I'm super down.
I'm always down to throw in some of Marcon de Nisalisalisalis.
It's like one of my favorites from the old days.
But do you have any other questions from the community?
Any plans in releasing 120 millimeter one four?
I forgot.
we do computer stuff, huh?
120 millimeter,
140 millimeter crack in AIO
with the Z model's LCD screen.
So I'm going to say,
what I say,
every single time people ask about future products.
We're always thinking about everything.
Remember delete the Vod?
Wait, what I'm going to delete the Vod for?
Oh, yeah.
Yeah. We need to figure out what to do with that,
with that stuff.
I'm thinking we'll just throw everything on YouTube or something.
I was insane.
Yeah, so whenever it comes to new products,
we will never ever announce them here in this podcast
because this podcast is once a week.
We will announce them on Twitter, Instagram, Facebook,
all of our social channels,
even our Discord channel, Discord server as well,
or our official website,
or you can sign up for a newsletter at n60.com.
It's somewhere there on the webpage.
I'm not sure if there's a specific year.
We should announce a product on here one day.
Yeah, we should, right?
We should just lift it up.
Here it is, right?
It's like a, here's my empty mango cart.
This is the NXT product that I was drinking last night.
But, yeah, you know, we're always thinking about everything.
You know, we take everything into consideration.
Any product you think or want us to make, we probably thought about making it at some point in time.
And for one reason or another, either it's not ready or we don't feel like it fits in with our current product category or product lines or the way that our products meshed together.
So yeah, you know, so that's a, that's, that's, that's the generic PR social media person answer whenever you ask you about anything that's new coming out.
So, yeah.
So the answer is no.
Yeah, the answer's no.
I'll like to say no.
Before we do wrap it up, though, Dan, I do have some announcements I'd like to make.
Yes.
All right.
So the first announcement is our plug and blank giveaway.
just ended last night.
That was for a chance to win our brand new NZT capsule microphone,
which you can see right behind me, I think,
if my camera's not too blurry.
So yeah, that ended yesterday,
so we're going to announce the winners later today on Twitter.
So check out at NZXT if you want to find out if you won.
And speaking of microphones, like I said,
we did launch mics last week,
so go to NZXT.com to check those out.
And the other thing we launched last week,
which you might not be aware of.
I don't know.
Christina,
did you know that NZXT has a TikTok?
No.
I would love to learn more.
Follow at NZT on TikTok.
And you can see some shenanigans from Dennis and myself and Mike, who's not here right now.
But yeah, check out our NZXT on TikTok.
And we also just launched a TikTok duet challenge for a chance to win an NZXT capsule microphone.
And the way this duet challenge works is you have to be the voice of Pucci.
So you use your best Pucci voice to read the script and you might win an NZT capsule microphone.
If I was going to see it here.
Duet this with your best voiceover for a chance to win a capsule microphone.
That's it.
It's very simple.
It's taken in the office, you know, and just.
Do you want to show some of the entry?
The entries were really funny.
I can try to pull some up.
I don't know how give me a second you can probably get him from our Instagram stories
where we put oh yeah yeah you're right you write you write you write poppy the entries
dd's asking how bad they are and they're not bad they're actually really good some of
funny yeah they're really funny i got to throw more on the on the on the on the tl but uh here we
go unmute this real quick give a lot of videos here you have some sound that's cool
Hmm
Voiceover for a chance to win a capsule microphone
It sounds really good
Purple
Alright boy let's do this
With your best voiceover for a chance to win a capsule microphone
Hi my name is Pucci and I'm a purple plush
Alright boy let's do this
For a chance to win a capsule microphone
That one got me
Yeah
Whatever that was
With this with your best voiceover for a chance to win a capsule microphone
microphone.
This is cute.
Hi, my name is Pucci and I'm a purple plush.
That was a good one.
Yeah, that one's sounded almost kind of like Ash Ketchum from like Pokemon.
I kind of got like ash vibes from that.
And if you guys like giveaways for free microphones, then you're going to love this awesome giveaway that we're doing with Discord right now.
Oh yeah.
Or they're back to school event.
we are actually given away
three custom wrapped
Discord computers
you guys can check out what they look like
and enter by following
at Discord on social media
really nice looking
wraps Joshua and the customer
service team is a little upset though because I've been
storing these cases in his
office for the last three weeks
until we get the winners but
the contest ends next week so you still have
some time to enter so do so
if you can. And then the last two announcements are the most important. The first one being
follow Christina on Twitter at Silchrist 88 and learn more about her awesome org Latinx and gaming
at latinxing gaming.com. Really doing amazing stuff for the Latino community and
you know, just on behalf of NZXT, want to say, keep up the good work.
Thank you for having me.
Oh, you guys are awesome.
Yeah, anytime.
Yeah, thanks.
Thanks for being on.
Thanks for taking the time.
I know you're super busy, you know, with your million jobs and, you know, making the world a better place.
So, you know, we really appreciate it.
I try to think what else to say because I need to make time to pull up my document because I realize
and add the outro to our Trello, Ivan.
Good job.
Anytime, dude.
That's literally what I'm here for, just to make time.
Yeah, Christina, any parting words, anything you want to let the people know, anything you want to plug?
Unitas Online is October 15th and 17th, and Nuestra Cossina is every Thursday at 5 p.m.
starting this Thursday with hostess Lullaboo.
So check us out.
And maybe soon Ivan, right?
We'll be doing some cooking.
She might be on there.
Both of you might be on there.
Like me, you'll get a cook.
I'm not very good cook.
Yeah.
I can cook some, anything in an air fryer.
I can do really good steaks.
I'm like really good at steaks.
And my kind of sada marinade is not that bad, actually.
It's pretty good.
I'll do the judge of that.
Yeah.
What's your recipe, Ivan?
Where are you going to say?
If I was going to do a cooking segment, I would probably do some barbecue.
But I wouldn't do carnasada.
I would probably smoke some meat.
smoke like a tri-tip or something.
Doesn't smoking me take like hours and hours though?
Yeah, it does.
It would be a very boring stream.
You'd be the longest stream ever.
You'd like sit down and have a beer and like so we got five hours.
The first five minutes would be me putting a tri-tip on the smoker.
And the next three hours would be me drinking beer playing music.
What do you guys think about this song?
It'll just be a vibe stream, right?
It'd just use hang out.
It'd be like chill stream only.
Am A.
Right, drinking beer listening music.
And then at the end, I open up the smoker and the tritip salt.
I know some of those words.
I don't know anything about smoking.
I've always wanted to learn, though.
I've always wanted to learn how to smoke stuff.
Maybe one day you'll teach me.
Maybe you can vape meat.
Ooh, yeah.
Imagine vaping meat.
Meat-flavored vape.
Dude.
No, thank you.
So I once had a trow vape, like, juice flavor.
it was disgusting.
But I'm curious, like, of other flavors.
Like, maybe you can do, like, a, like, I don't know,
trying to think, like, different kinds of, like, flavors.
Like a Bidia taco flavor, that'd be pretty good, right?
I'd be done for that.
Maybe kind of set a flavor.
Tamales, right?
I'm always down for that, too.
Some champorado.
That, actually, actually, that one might hate because it's kind of sweet.
Anyway, yeah, Christina.
Thanks for being on.
Thanks for hanging with us.
for humoring us.
Thanks for having me.
No problem.
Thank you for being on.
Thank you to everybody who tuned in.
Thank you again, to Christina, for taking time to hang out with us.
Remember to tune in next week at 10 a.m.
Pacific Center Time on the official N6T Discord server.
No, I'm tired.
I'm tired.
Start over.
Rewind, rewind, right?
Thank you for joining us, Christine,
and thank you to everyone who tuned in.
Remember to tune in next week at 10 a end, Pacific Center Time,
the official nzxti twitch we did we did this on discord for like a million years and follow at n6t on all
relevant and irrelevant social media don't forget to listen yeah yeah and what's i said yeah
well that depends on whether you consider uh ticot to be relevant or irrelevant ivan i'll let you
make that choice what do you think i i consider ticot to be the social media platform
that figured out how to do it right wow that good i feel like we can't
I can't just leave it at that.
I feel like you don't have to like add something more to that before.
Well, I guess the reason why I feel that way is because you look at Twitter, for example,
and the way Twitter works best is, you know, inserting yourself into conversations and
being able to communicate with people like in the moment, right?
You look at Instagram.
It's more like you show a nice picture.
People like it and comment underneath.
And if you do stories, people.
can see it and swipe up or whatever.
You look at Facebook and you basically,
if you don't spend money on Facebook,
you're not going to reach your audience.
So with TikTok, I just, I don't know,
I feel like that formula of a quick 30 second video
that you can swipe up on and comment on
and insert yourself in the conversation,
to me, that's like the perfect formula.
And I don't know about you guys,
but for me, the best part about using TikTok
is not actually the TikTok videos,
but it's reading the comments from people.
Agreed.
I feel like that is like the Twitter aspect of it, right?
Where it's just like people make some hilarious responses on videos.
And I love reading that stuff.
Not just that, but the algorithm is so scary.
It just knows it in like five videos.
This is Mexican.
That too.
Enjoy all this content.
Like, oh no.
Sometimes it's a little too much for me, though.
All right.
Anyway, to continue on, Ivan,
Thank you for that.
Don't forget to listen to previous episodes on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Spotify, and SoundCloud.
Hit those buttons.
Also, if you could do it as a huge favor, I did, I'd have for that drop there.
Drop this a little bit for a second, guys.
I'm going to get a little intimate with you.
Share the show with a friend.
Or an enemy, right?
May it's even better.
Somebody you don't like.
Subject him to this, what, two hour long, where we spend half the time.
listening to music.
But anyway, guys, thank you very much.
Appreciate it.
Happy Latinx Heritage Month.
Happy everything month.
Don't be afraid to celebrate who you are and all that stuff.
We love you all.
We'll see you next time.
Bye.
Remember me.
Remember me, your one.
