NZXT PODCAST - #111 - Wesley Ruscher

Episode Date: October 29, 2021

This week we're joined by NZXT's Developer Relations Manager: Wesley Ruscher. We discuss classic games, earthworm physics, and being a dad. Follow Wesley at twitter.com/GameRusch Tune in live every Thursday at 10AM PT on twitch.tv/NZXT and send your questions to: [e-mail]

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All kinds of things happen in. Hello and welcome to episode 111 of the NZXD podcast, the official podcast of the NZXT community. This podcast is recorded live every Thursday at Tendium, Pacific Center Time, of the official NZXD Twitch. There we go. It's available to stream on demand on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Spotify, and SoundCloud. So get ready to whoa, lo, lo, everyone, and take over the opposing empire.

My name is Dennis, and Ivan is actually out today. He's not here. He's not celebrating his birthday. The big 4-0, as they say. He's officially boomer status, I think. Yep, he's joined the club. He's joined the club, yeah. Today's special guest is NZT's developer relations manager and certified and other certified boomer Wesley Rusher or Rousher.

We're talking about it before the show. There's an interesting lineage to your name, isn't there? Yeah, I mean, it's not that interesting. It's just I think if you're German, you should pronounce it Rusher. But somewhere in the truck over here, we decided to say R Usher. I don't know. maybe to differentiate us from the other roosures that came across. At some point, we just decided we're just going to call it this instead of that, right?

So, yes, before we get started, what do you do at NZXT so everyone knows what you're in charge of and what you DM me about all the time? Well, as you said earlier, my official title is developer relations managers. Long story short, I talk to developers out there, game companies, to see what we can do together. That includes like any time you see like a custom wrap case like for giveaway, you know, maybe we're bundling game codes with, you know, BLDPCs. And then I think more importantly the biggest thing I work on is our craft licensing. So that's, you know, either acquiring new licenses for our craft products or, you know,

working with the current licenses to see what new things we can do in the craft landscape. What's your craft like Holy Grail? If there is one IP that we can make a case of or make like a puck of or whatever it is that we like bundling together, what would it be? I guess probably Legend of Zelda. I think that would be like the home run. I mean, it doesn't like per se fit the PC landscape, but I get to see, you know, like the Hyro shield has like the puck, you know. Ooh. You know, you do a lot of, there's a lot of classic.

You know, iconography within those all the universe, you know. Yeah, the Triforce charm, right? TriForce charm, you know, may do something with hearts, maybe it's the power button, maybe it's just, you know, maybe it's just like a gift on your cracking Z. Yeah. You know, you get the whole, like, cam ecosystem to kind of look like, you know, if your PC's running well, you have full hearts. If it's not, you know, the hearts go down. I don't know. That's actually awesome.

It's making that annoying, like, blink, you know, was that annoying sound from like the original Zelda when you're like at like half a heart? it. Yeah, yeah. Did it, did it, did it. So. Yeah. I don't think

what else would be cool to do with that. Maybe the fans can be like, I don't know, what the fans be? If you do like custom fans. I don't know. I'm thinking too hard about it.

We're going to spend all day about a joke I can't even like. A little master swords as the blades. I don't know. Oh, yeah, that'd be cool.

That'd be cool. That'd be sick. So yeah, folks, if you wonder who handles all the craft stuff, Who handles all the game bundles? It's my main man, Wes, right there. Speaking of which, speaking of Wes,

we are doing our giveaway. We have to do every single week on the show. And if you want to enter, all you go to do is type in exclamation point, Wes Gold into the chat, all one word, and you get entered to the giveaway. And, yeah, when you sell some free games, some free games.

So, Wes, how you been, man? I actually don't think I was spoken to you, like, one-on-one in, like, a minute. Yeah, it's been a while. Yeah, it's been a while. You know, doing good. just living the double dad life. You know, have a seven-month-old boy who doesn't like his daycare,

but hopefully he'll get through it. And then just moved recently. So also been dealing with the whole unpacking and that stuff. But I think most of all that's, you know, done for now. So now I just get to look forward to the holidays. So I know you've been in the industry for a minute, and I know you've collected like a bunch of stuff over the years. what's like the one thing when you're packing

you make sure okay this this has to go in a very special spot so I can like pull it out as soon as I can so it gets stuck in a box for like a year probably my Sega Saturn collection that is the thing like I hand carry everywhere that was hand carry It's not a huge collection

but I got all the I got the expensive games you know that I had them as a kid you know so it's like you know my childhood collection it's like what I played you know throughout like the high school days a lot of and yeah those games are just you know one their CDs too they come in these giant like compact disc boxes that are like you know yay big so they're super brittle like yeah I don't trust anybody with them I'm see but they might stay in the box

for a while I just I just keep an eye on that box you know they're you know they'll be bubble wrapped and all that stuff so yeah I'm gonna pull up an image I'm trying to see if on a picture of Sega Saturn games these wonky boxes uh I don't this is a good one or not. It might actually be your post. Yeah, but this is what Sega Saturn games used to look like, folks. This is before the age of, like,

digital distribution. We had to carry games and boxes. Sonic 3, you blasts on a jam. Oh, man. Yeah, I mean, I think the big thing with Saturn games, too, is just that system was such a nightmare to develop for that there aren't really, there's no ports of those

games. It's very rare that Really? The game gets remade. It just can't. Like, it's just too much work or it, the code's lost because people weren't, I guess, forward thinking back then. So they didn't really back up stuff and keep it. So, you know, like source codes loss.

When you do see, like, ports of the games, a lot of times just, like, emulating, like, they're emulating, like, a ROM, you know. So they're not, like, rebuilding it from scratch or anything like that. It's funny you mention that because our first topic actually has to do with, like, Sega and like animation and emulation and stuff like that. And I've been, um, I've been thinking about like, like, starting to emulate some older games again because I've been getting an age to play some like older PS1 games. Like there's been a few games here that I can keep thinking about.

Like one of which in particular is, um, the original, like, see of Kane. I've always wanted to like actually play and like beat that game. And I, I remember when I first played it, it was like such a mind-blowing like game to see like as like video game character walk up to a person who's like suck other blood out and they're just like destroying people and uh i don't think that games has ever really been re-released right i think it's just stuck on the PS1 the original one no not that i know of there was you know follow-ups down the line but yeah they did the whole like razziel like series yeah i was uh i was walking my dog the day and i was listening to a video essay on youtube where this dude's

going through the entire history of the legacy of Kane series. I think it's really, really deep. And then apparently doesn't, what's that game, Nazgoth, right? Like that, that, that, that PVP game or something. I think that's related to it. Oh, yeah, I remember that. Yeah.

Oh, man, I don't have you guys remember. This game was, it's actually super fun. I thought it was dead. I think I worked on some of the PR for that. No way. That would have been like under Square at the times. Yeah, it's published by Square Unix and developed by Cyanx. Is Cyanx still around?

Are they still doing a thing? Cyanics? Cyanics? Oh, yeah. Oh, wait, that's... Oh, that's the same Cynics. That's interesting. Dang.

You go from doing, like, this really wonky, like, asymmetric vampire PVP game, and you end up doing Rocket League. That's nuts. Which, you know, Rocket League's a sequel to a game they made before that. It is? Yeah. What's it? What's the sequel to?

You want to tell me? It's something like super rocket-powered car soccer. I don't know. Rocket League. I just look it up. Yeah. Rocket lead sequel to. Supersonic acrobatic rocket-powered battle cars.

That's the full title. I see. I hear guys found it. It's on PS3. Colloquially known as Sarpica, S-R-P-V-C-V-C-V-C-C-E-R-V-C-C-V-C. officially abbreviated as Sarp Battlecars is a vehicular soccer video game, yeah, for PS3. That's crazy. That's actually really funny.

I had no idea. I wonder how you go from doing Legacy of Kane games to doing that. Let me see. Games developed by Sonics, Monster Bandis, Supersonic. I guess it's like their second game officially. I guess they don't count Nats gothoth under here under Games Developed. arc squadron, arc redo or redux

Rocket League and then Rocket League side swipe. Dang. Can you imagine that's just like, that's it? That's just the game that you do? And then you're just like, you're just done? There are like a few developers out there who like this is the one game that we do.

It's going to keep on going forever. Then we're just good to go, right? Like I wouldn't even count like a bungee under that because Bungee, they've been around for a while and they've been making games for a bit, but like, you know, once Destiny came out, that was kind of like their game, but they've had like a long road to get to the point where they have the game that they can just kind of, I'm not going to say rest their laurels on, but like there's, there's going to keep iterating and like keep working on it, you know?

Yeah, I mean, it's like all, their whole history is kind of iteration. Like they did marathon, like on the Mac. Yeah. And then that became Halo, which, hey, I guess Halo did have. I have more of an RTS vibe when it first started. But then quickly, when Microsoft got involved, it became a shooter. And then from Halo to Destiny, and this is, you know, they've kind of like up the ante each time. Yeah.

I don't think who else, like, respawn's kind of there a little bit right now with Apex. But they say they're working on some other stuff. And I know they did the Star Wars game, right, Fall in Order, which is super good, super fantastic. So I don't think who else is, like, kind of in that same boat as, like, Sonic. because in terms of, like, they just have that one game they just been working on forever. I guess Epic with Fortnite, right? I don't think they ever really need to make another game again.

They're pretty good. I'd be surprised if they ever really wanted to, right? I mean, Fortnite's gonna, it's like, go on forever. Yeah, I mean, you could say that a long time, like, Riot was that way with League. Yeah. You know, they finally started venturing out. Finally, finally living up to the Riot Games name, right? Instead of the Riot game.

I think that'd be pretty cool, right, to do like a write games, like Valorant case or something. I can't imagine it's like an easy deal to get because it's right, right? But, I mean, I know whoever we're, would be able to get that would probably sell a butt ton of cases. Probably, yeah. I mean, it's definitely, I mean, that's a, you know, bucket list kind of IP to get a hold of or partner to work with. I mean, if anything, they just released that stuff with a lot of tech. So, you know, maybe that's. opening doors for other hardware manufacturers to, you know, getting bored.

I don't know how like closed off they've been in the past. Yeah. But doing anything like that. But, you know, at least there's, you know, some groundwork laid by, you know, friends of ours. Frenemies. Frenememes. I guess we make a mic now. So we can't be just friends anymore.

Yeah. We have to be a, well, what would it be like? Like a anime childhood rival, right? Yeah. Like a Gary Oak to the Ashkatcham or something or do I think who also be a good good enemy rival? Bacca go to Deku.

Yeah, that's a good one. That's a good one. Pine Kiwi Pizza is saying in the chat, so if I'm not wrong, you're behind the Vahala case and other design cases. Is that what it is? Question mark? Yeah, to some extent. Valhalla was kind of, the wheels were kind of going

before I moved over to the team. You know, prior to dev relations, I worked on our PR, worked on influencer stuff. So I've been, you know, involved to some level with, you know, our past craft products. I helped get Vajala through the home stretch, which was just kind of like hiring out, like, the final, like, communications between us and Ubisoft or like the, you know, coming to make sure we got social support, you know, submitting like all the assets. But like, by the time I hopped on Vahala, the case design was already going. But, yeah, I definitely work through, you know, continuing. that relationship.

So we're, you know, continuing to talk with them about things we might want to do in the future. Yeah. In case you guys are wondering, because I know someone's going to ask, what's the next craft thing coming up? And I'll tell you, it's ready when it's ready, and we'll announce it when we announce it. And we will never announce it on the show. At least the time being, it will be announced on our socials. It'll be announced on everywhere else because we usually, what, launch things like Tuesday, Wednesday. So just mark your calendar for every single Tuesday slash Wednesday in the year.

And maybe one of those days, something will be released. I will say Kraft doesn't necessarily play by those rules. Yeah, that's very true. Yeah. I think we announced the Mass Effect case on November 7th, right? Yeah, last year and 7-day. Yeah. Which I think was a Saturday.

Yeah, yeah. And 7-day last – was it last year? Yeah. Yeah, last year was a Saturday. I remember. He's like, all right. Got to work on a Saturday. And my dad's like, I don't know why you're working so much.

I'm like, that's the way video games work, dude. Like, you know. I love NCXT. Yeah. I love my job. Shadow Way wants to know. What's your favorite design, your favorite, I guess, craft case and why? Favorite craft case, probably our second one, which is the Nucca Cola case.

Been a big fallout fan. Really love that kind of like war-torn vintage look that it has. You know, the pin-up model on the side's cool. Like, you know, I just, I like the tethered, like, rustic look that case has. We did some neat tooling on there. Like, the top I-O port is in, like, our standard power button. It has, like, a little grill. Same with the cable bar.

There's, like, a little grill vent in it that kind of, you know, stuff you would see, like, on Power Armor in the game. So they did a little bit of extra with that case. You know, the logo on the NZXT lights up. Yeah, I'm going to pull it up in a second, but I can't show you where I'm pulling it up from because there's other stuff in there. So let me give a quick second,

if I see I'm talking about. Yeah, I think that was like one of the first cases I saw was a Nucca Cola case. I don't remember I joined in, I think here, I joined in like May of 2019, I believe was when I joined the company.

So I forget what. It was our first like mini little ecosystem too. We actually did a Nucca-Cola. a motherboard cover for the Z370 motherboard. So if you have our first motherboard, which you probably don't have, but it was okay. But there was a motherboard cover

that you could put on our motherboard in that case. You can see it in the picture here, which really kind of gets that extra look all the way throughout, which I thought was really cool, too. I'm trying to pull up an image at the side here. I was using that case up until the Mass Effect case. So currently it's

retired right now. Yeah. Yeah, for for those who also don't know, um, our, our craft cases are created in a limited quantity, um, but usually like a couple, couple hundred to maybe like a thousand is depending on, I think the, the case. I think the last ones we've done have been all 500, right? The 100 quantity? Uh, a thousand. A thousand. I think, I think Valo was 500. Yeah. But usually it's a thousand, a thousand of Bahalo is a little bit different. Um, that one was exclusive to like the North America regions or the North America, South America, the Americas.

Yeah. You should get off here. Yeah. I don't know what my favorite one is. There's so many. I think probably just the Mass Effect one just because I think out of all the games that we've done, the one that I have

like the most like affinity for or most like love for throughout the years has been Mass Effect. Even though I haven't played Mass Effect in like a million years. But I remember when I first played those games, it was like just such a mind-blowing experience to have this great story. Because I never really got super into Western RPGs when I was younger.

So like I missed the boat on like Cotor and like all these other games back in the day. Like I played a lot of shooters like on PC and stuff like that, a lot of multiplayer games. So like I think Mass Effect was like one of the first like single player experiences that I felt like really kind of hit me. Not in like an emotional way. I'm like, you know, it's not like that. But it was just like super cool. Just like, you know, it's going to go through the story. And I have like all those world building and all this crazy stuff go around it.

So I'm super profound of that. And I'll show a couple images of that for those who want to see it. Yeah, I think I was in the same boat with that game too. I played a lot of like JRP's growing up. Yeah. But I don't really touch Western games. I'm going to say like Fallout 3 on the 360. Yeah.

It's probably the first one I got into then Mass Effect. And I got like super into Mass Effect. Actually, not I think about it, I think I played Mass Effect first. so but I even like read the books that came out with Mass Effect yeah there was like a book that kind of like set up the whole like universe and finish that before I started the game and then I read like the next two that I think the author drew car I can't his last name's really hard to pronounce carpish I don't know I'm just gonna butcher it so I won't go there but yeah I got like super

into it and then I remember like the fourth book came out and he didn't write it and they didn't really have a really good lore master. And I remember there was like a Google doc of like all the things that were wrong about the world. Like, Crocus don't do this and all this stuff. And so I never read that one. But that's funny. That's probably the most invested I've been in any like IP in a long time. It was a mass effect series.

Yeah. I can't. I think for me before that had to been wow, right? But like after like the Litch King expansion, it got. It kind of got into like the new story stuff, and that's where I really fell off of it. Yeah, so I think like, you know, just in terms of like how they,

I think what made a specific really special too is that they didn't just tell you, like, these things that happened in the world, they also kind of showed you, right? It's like, oh, Krogans do this, and then you see a Krogan do something, right? Or like those, I forget what they're called, like the creatures that are like floating brains almost,

and they're like super literal, and they don't speak in any kind of metaphor. And that was hilarious the way that the, the way that they like showed that character, those, that character, those,

that race or species or whatever off. Well, they'll like state their emotion as they like speak. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Like, angryed. It's super good, yeah.

All right. So I know we were talking about emulation earlier and I wanted to, we're doing news today, folks, okay? We're doing news. Everybody loves Wes.

We all know Wes. We know what he's done. Don't forget to follow Wes on Twitter. We'll tweet that stuff out later. It's Dragon Rush, right? dragon are you actually changed it oh did you wait since i did uh i don't know a few months ago game rush right game rush yeah yeah i started an instagram with the same name where i just like post pictures of my collection like every day oh that's cool so i wanted to like to kind of like

tie some stuff together here we go folks actually figure i'm too old for the word dragon now even though it's still in the back of my jersey so maybe next year let's see what you got here uh tales of the Abyss. We just go through your entire collection here on Instagram. Okami's really good. I don't know the main one for the DS. It's like a baby Okami. Okami Den?

Yeah. We got 131 followers. I'm sure to follow that. It's really cool. So the games on here. Zeno Saga. Dude, I've always seen Zeno Saga and I've never played it. But I remember being a kid.

Like, you know, like, when you're young and like you're like too young, too able to afford like all the games you want to play. and you'll see a certain title going back and forth, and I really want to play this, but I know this game is one that for sure I'm going to like. I don't know if I'll like this one, so I'm just going to admire it from afar and just pretend that maybe one day I'll be able to play it,

and then you just like never get to playing it. I've never played Zeno Saga before. I'll see it out here. Sonic Chronicles. That's cool. Developed by BioWare, which is the weirdest thing about that game. It was?

Yeah. That's what you're saying. It's a Western RPG. Oh, yeah. It says, right here. Stick ahead with some really, it's actually a really cool account.

Like, you, like, show some cool photos and some games, and you, like, drop some knowledge. That's actually really dope.

I like that. Limited run. I know you're a big fan of them. A lot of PSVita games. I never got a Vita. Never got a PSP out there. It was not something that I was interested in. Can I try to post,

like, somewhat theme? So I think last week I was doing Vita. This week, I've been posting games that have, like, handheld counterparts. So, like, a PS2 and, like, a DS2

and, like, a D. or a 3DS version or something like that. That's awesome. It's red. Just going through all your stuff here. Fighting Vipers. It's a fighting game? I've never heard of this before.

Yeah, it's kind of like Virtual Fighter. But the characters have like armor that you can like shatter off, similar to like Soul Calibur and they fight in like caged arenas. So you can like burst them through the walls and stuff. But it came out a little bit after Virtual Fighter 2 in the arcade. and then they, you know, they ported at the Saturn. There's another game on the Saturn called Fighters Megamix, which is kind of like a Smash Brothers of Sega fighting characters.

It takes like all the virtual fighter characters, all the fighting viper characters, and like Sonic fighters, some random other fighting games, 3D fighters they did, and puts them all together in a big old, like, fighting game. Yeah, fighting vipers is pretty cool. Yeah, it's like, you know, extreme.

You have like a rollerblader. You have like a dude with a guitar. you have a kid with a skateboard, you know, all kinds of different characters. Yeah. The Japanese version actually has a special guest character, which is like one of the first games that have something like that.

It's Pepsi Man, which I guess was like a Pepsi superhero in Japan. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I remember that. I remember seeing the commercials on like YouTube back in the day. Some really weird stuff. Soccero Wars, that's awesome. This is really cool, dude. Actually, I'm actually really digging this.

Everyone should go follow this account. If not, then you're, you're a nice little gamer. This is actually really cool. Like, I can see myself going through this. Okay, so can we talk about Castlevania, Lords of Shadow? I love those games. I thought they were really good. The first one was super fun.

Second one, obviously, had some issues with development and knowing what happened with Konami after the fact, like it makes a lot of sense. But Mirror Fate and Lords of Shadow were actually not bad games, and I'm tired of pretending like they're not. Yeah, no, I agree. I love the first one.

I thought I was super well done. You know, it's a little long. You know, they could probably have, like, use a little bit of editing. But overall, I think it's a really cool game. Like, it's got that God of Warfield. It's even got, like, a couple bosses that have this, like, shadow of colossus, like, you know, huge bosses. You have the climb vibe.

The second one, yeah, it's not so great. The combat's still good, but, and I thought where they left off the first game into the second game was going to make, like, a really cool story, but they kind of dropped the ball. But the history of that game, as much as I'm, know is so it's developed by mercury steam the same developers who just did Metroid Dread yeah um apparently from what I've heard or what I read is that like you know the guy in charge was not easy to work with and some of like the main people

behind the first Lord of the Shadow basically jumped ship before the second one was completed and it really like through that game you know off course you know like his he was like this is my vision and they're like it doesn't work so they just like bounced so that kind of, you know, change that game. But yeah, the DS one's cool because if you played like Dred or if you played the Metroid 2, Sammis Returns remake on 3DS, it's, you know, there's a lot of gameplay from, that you see in those games in that game,

because it's basically a side-scrolling Metroidvania. Yeah. Yeah, that's what I liked about it, too, because it kind of, like, did both, both styles of, of Castlevania that people like. But I think what I really liked about Lord's Shadow it was that they kind of started to rebuild the lore

of Castlevania which like to be honest if you know anything about Castlevania in the story it's like all over the place it's like it spans like multiple centuries and like millennia I think at this point now and like it never really made much sense it was just like oh here's a new Castlevania game this character is from

1800s or something yeah it's like Dracula's Castle's back you're the current you know person who kills vampires Go into his castle and kill him. Yeah. And Lords of Shadow had a bit more of like a story to it.

Like the motivation was what you're trying to find your wife or something, I think, sort of was. Or like your wife was dead? Yeah, like that was part of it. I mean, I had some like, you know, talent behind it. It had, what was his name? Sean Luke Picard. Was it him?

He was doing the voice acting? He was, he wasn't the main guy. But he was like your mentor. which you know spoilers if you haven't played it and he ends up being like the big bad at the the first game the main character actor was I can't think it was name but he was he was in a bunch of stuff

pretty good actor I know he was in like what's that Disney show that's kind of like a modern version of all their fairy tales oh um once upon a time yeah once upon time he was he was like one of the main characters in that he was like yeah we've got a couple of people rumple still skin you played that character

Stuart Campbell Robert Carlisle yeah Robert Carlisle yeah he's like rumpled still skin once upon the time Kiji Fujiwara I guess he did some voice acting Brian Prothrow Banjo Ginga I don't know who that is Richard writings Jason Isaacs

Patrick Stewart Alec Newman and Adrian Schiller I feel like I know some of these names more than I You know, Patrick's here, you know, Captain John Luke Picard from Star Trek or, you know, Professor X. Yeah. Yeah. I, so I'm going to show on stream here. This is my stream. This is my Steam profile, right? This is my Castlevania Lords of Shadow Ultimate Edition.

I played the game originally on Xbox 360 when it came out, and then I re-bought it again on PC. And I was trying to 100% the game, the entire game. And I almost got there. Literally like every single level, every single of. difficulty, every single collectible, whatever. And when I went to go finish the last couple bits of the achievements, my save got corrupted. And I couldn't finish the other stuff. It just wouldn't load for me.

It wouldn't work. So I never got the full 100% achievement list on Steam. And I still think about it to this day, every now and then. I'm like, man, like, when I went back to this game and just finally finished it, but getting to that point is such a chore on those games. Like, you're 100% right. It's like super long, almost like needlessly long, but there's like a lot of good stuff in that game. And I honestly recommend it.

I don't know if it's a quote-unquote Castlevania game, but we had so many really wonky Castlevania games anyway that like, I mean, you know, you can't really say it's not one. I mean, if you play the one for the N64 or some of the ones for like the PS1 or PS2, you know, like they kind of similar, you know. So just saying, you know, not all Cassavania has to be Metrovenia. So I just don't know one out there. See what we got here. Honestly, just want to go through this entire account. This is sick. Obviously, we got Shadow of the Empire.

That game I never finished because the Wookie and, like, the beginning level scared me, and I can never beat it. Literally, I was like a kid. My uncle bombed me this game, and I couldn't beat it because that Wookie was super scary. Shadow of the Empire, Wookie. And I'll show you, Wokey. That's what I am when I'm tweeting about all this stuff. I'm super wokey.

Let me see if we can find it. 1064. Yeah, there's one part in the game, and I think it's on, like, the second or third level when you're, like, walking up on the rocks or something, and this wookie comes up and he just decimates you. Like, he can't do anything to this guy.

And I was, like, just young enough that, like, I just couldn't do it. I can't find a picture of the wookie on here, but, yeah, that's a... I think this is it. I think this year here. That wasn't a wookie. What's that white thing in the snow?

What are they called? Scared the crap. I don't know. Scared the crap on me as a little kid. This is the person who read that said this. Literally me. I remember seeing this and it scared the crap out of me. Can you six degrees?

Like the Hoth monsters. Yeah, they call it. Yeah. Can do six degrees? Oh, Wampas. They're called Wampas. Wampas. That's a, that's not a, oh, here we go, yeah.

That's not a, yeah. it's much scarier in the movie obviously but I remember as like a little kid and especially like the way it's like done because the N64 graphics weren't like the best is like really blocky and like weird it definitely freaked me out as a kid and I can never beat that game

but I still love it though you got some comments in the chat here played McGee's Alice in Wonderland a G-Force 2, nostalgia could do six degrees of Kevin Bacon with Robert Carlyle could we Trying to think

I'm not I'm not up on my Kevin Bacon lore Maybe West is a little better at that Six degrees That'd be tough I mean I'm sure

There's probably just like a movie They're in together Here we're gonna do this Degrees I have separation I'm sure there's a website for it Um See it

I just look at Robert Carlisle See what he's done here We can probably figure this out right He's probably been something Scottish actor once upon a time. It seemed like train spotting was another big thing you did back in the day. Yeah, career. Let's see here.

Okay, here we go. Sound scream, refraff, priest. I notice it seems we find, like, a big movie we can just quickly go to. Aragon, probably. There might be some big names there, I think. Television. Okay. So if I use this path of something I've found.

So Robert Carlyle was in train spotting with Ewan McGregor. Ewan-Hourge with Nicole Kidman. Nicole Kidman was in Eyes Wide Shot with Tom Cruise. Tom Cruise was in a few good men with Kevin Bacon. There you go. Four steps. GGs. Four steps.

Even better. You're welcome Calamity Cat. We did it. Let's see here. Y'all Lister wants to say, Y'all replay Glover on N64. I feel like I'm known. no one who actually played this.

No one, no one decals this game, no remembers this game. Do Glover was, I remember Glover. I don't think I ever really played it. I might have rented it with a buddy. I rented it from Albertsons. I didn't have an N64 until,

like the year 2000, 2001, something like that. I got it after, even after I had a dream cast when we started getting like super into Super Smash Brothers. Let me see here. If those don't remember, Glover,

Glover was lit. Glover was this little I don't know if they tried to make him like a mascot or something I feel like there was some of the I'm like Intentil try to do but basically it's a puzzle game where you play as a little hand right or like a little glove and you have to roll this ball around to get it to the end

of the level I guess Donald Glover comes up here too I guess we're at the point out where Donald Glover is possibly bigger than Glover which I wouldn't doubt but that's funny yeah Don Glover

from the structoid I see here Could the N64 hero Glover be preparing for a comeback 11 months ago I think it's safe to say at this point no Can we get a Glover remake with you know Glover as a voice Who would voice Glover?

Who's your dream Glover voice actor? Tom Glover It just seems like too meta to make it it has to be That'd be great I was going to go with the instant joke you'd be like Gilbert Godfrey would be a good, good Glover voice

I'm rolling this ball right? It reminds me too of like games that have really like goofy voice acting do you remember Gex the Gex games? Those games were

I remember renting that game multiple times from the Albertson's video store so this is like a super callback super just like this is a regional supermarket chain of grocery stores, right? I guess the same thing.

And inside, next to where you would get your photos developed, this is super boomer stuff, right? It's when you had to take actual film, get it developed. We would rent video games because they're all physical. And I think I rented Gex at least five or six times. I thought Gex was super dope. I remember it not being funny because I wasn't like old enough to understand the references like Gex. So, Gax, the character would, like, make all these references to, like, celebrities and stuff. And it was, like, it's, it's super dated now.

Like, like, if you go listen to the game or the audio and it's, like, not relevant at all that or to, like, anything that's happening now. But it was, I guess it was, like, their attempt to make, like, a mascot, platformer video game character who was, like, really smart and, like, snarky and made, like, all these jokes. He's like, oh, man, you know, we got him here. We talked about, I don't know, Danny DeVito in this video game. I'm not sure if he actually has a Danny Vita line, but he's in the same vein, you know, I can't think of an old actor. I mean,

that was like the whole, like, time. Like, I guess Sonic was like the first dude with attitude. Yeah. But, you know, he didn't talk. And then we got into like the PlayStation era where like voice sample clips and, you know, were a lot more common. So he had like bubsy. And I mean, I know he was 16 bits still too.

But yeah. But there's a whole bunch of them, bubsy, tomba. Earthroom Jim. was a good one. Earthroom Jim, yeah. He just be like, damn. Groovy, right?

Yeah, groovy. I miss Earthroom Jim. I feel like that's one character that I think could come back in some kind of way. There's supposed to be like a new Earthworm Jim being made for that amico

that like Tommy Tolar Rico like in television console. And unfortunately, like the creator of from gym is kind of like kind of a special person Doug Tenpole like

he's his name he has a lot of controversial opinions out there so like it kind of kind of stinks but yeah yeah the earthen gym was an interesting game um did it start as a comic first or

or was it? I think it was straight in the game they just it was one of those things where they're like I think we have something here and so they they went like full course and like making this like a you know like a full metaverse of like IPs you know there was a cartoon show yeah um yeah toys you know yeah Doug to Naples that's his name but like it was developed by shiny which I thought was pretty cool they did like

the matrix games back in the day like enter the matrix and Patha Neo MDK murder death kill see playmates toys finding success with the license of the Teenage Mutage Mutants of Turtles wanted to start their own franchise inspired by the success of Sonic and Sonic 2. They wanted to start the franchise as a video game. Yeah. The game's design started with Doug Tennipoles, simple sketch of Earthworm that he presented to shiny entertainment.

That's interesting. That's really funny. It's really cool. I mean, this is something that, like, I've always done on my own, is, like, I'll be curious about a game we used to play or, like, a game that I heard about, then I'll just look up and just go through the rabbit hole of, like, how small the video game industry actually really is.

apparently shiny merch and double helix that's interesting I know that yeah I guess the founder David Perry is the person he developed Guy Kai

which became like PlayStation now like Sony acquired them and rolled that service into their you know streaming video game service I feel like if you work in video games enough you'll eventually just end up at the same place he started off out right

he's like he's gonna go around the whole industry and just end up somewhere that you're like yeah well you know hey what's up again dude Yeah, but the Thorn Jim was dope It was super fun game It was also It was also really hard too

It's not easy Yeah But this was a earthworm That somehow got into a space suit And then he gained sentience And yeah And then he could use his Was the suit

Like The suit moved on his own, right? I think Like the suit was I think you could troll it. I'm not sure, but yeah, the main villain is the queen slug for a butt. I think the princess here, right?

No, that's not the queen slug for a butt. You can find the princess what's your name? Yeah, it was a... I don't think that Earthworm Jim was a bad IP either. I think it was, like, funny, but it was very old, like, it was like very 90s, right? Like just everything has to have an attitude and be like super Super like quirky and have like a bunch of one-liners.

Right. It didn't work. Here we go. See so here's a picture. It's really small because the games, you know, from the Sega Genesis days or whatever. But here's a shot of him using the earthworm inside the suit as like a rope to like hook on the things and stuff. So I think at a certain point the suit does have like a certain level of like it can do things on its own. I don't know to what extent it can.

but I think it's also like a blaster gun and with the worm you could like really snap it like a whip and like whip enemies for melee or use it as like a like a grapple to attach to like hooks and stuff. Yeah and uh I think like at a certain point like I think I think maybe like on the death screen when he die in this game

this suit like runs around trying to find the earthworm or something like he's trying to get back to him so I don't know I think that I don't know why we're going to the rabbit hole like the earthroom gym like lore and like how it always We're totally down the rabbit hole Yeah for sure. we're supposed to talk about emulation at some point yeah but who cares it's way more interesting dude it's from gym yeah um do you have her some gym do you own um i actually do not

it should be on your list yeah it's on the list of things i want to you know added the collection yeah um yeah it's never had i rented it like crazy and you know but just never never acquired it it was you know games were expensive back then i'd get like a couple games for christmas and you know that was it you know when the time this like i said the saturn's you know special to me because that was right around the time i first started working so it was like you know my money went to that yeah you know genesis was already like kind of past its time yeah i think i think the first console i was able to buy games for on my own with my own money was my 360 i bought with the credit card and actually i think that was the first big purchase i made on on that credit card

and i carried that debt on that card like never zeroed it out until i was was like 25. Now I started working, it was like 18. So, or maybe a little bit later. So like almost 10 years, because of an Xbox 360 in a poor decision, right, I carried with me a bunch of debt. But I did always pay my bills on time. So at the very least, I did build up my credit.

And I had a lot of fun in that 360. I did a lot of stuff on there. That's a Capcom. That game, so underrated. Sonic Adventure, all the Dreamcast, NBC2. Marvel's coming back apparently, right? Yeah, for MPC too. Yeah.

I really like that a T-shirt Maximilian did. It's cool. I surprised I see the Pokede tweeted about it. I was like, it's so random. He was like, what events conspired for Pokemon to be like, I'm going to tweet about Marvel versus Capcom too. Oh, there's the Vice City.

Are you going to pick up the new, the new, Grand Thift Auto remastered GT3, sent in Georgia? Uh, maybe. Yeah, probably. Probably not. I don't know. We'll see.

I'm definitely annoyed that they kind of are like deleting the originals. Yeah. Like, why not leave them there if I want to play janky-ass grant that photo? Like, let me. Yeah. Ooh, something in the night. That's a good one. That's a good get.

I think that was one of the first Xbox Live Arcade games I bought in my Xbox. I loved it. It was so good. Definitely classic. I mean, obviously you got to have Zelda. Do you want to explain this Satine Amico game here, Wes? They're good music rhythm games. I mean...

That's all you need to know. Now that, like, you know, guitar hero and dance dance aren't really things. And, I mean, like, those games are fine, but, you know, I just want to play with the controller sometimes. Yeah. I don't need to, like, get out of dance pad or set up guitar and drum set. I really liked, I mean, PS1 has... In America, they're called Bust a Groove, which were, like, dancing rhythm games from, like, Denex. I think it also was in that same vein.

But, yeah, I've always been a soccer for, like, good music rhythm games. I like the theater rhythm games that are on DS. There's, like, the Final Fantasy one. I played, which one did I like a lot? I liked, what's the name of that DG game? Was it Beat Mania? With, like, the... The Beat Mania, yeah, like, that one.

I had that with the big controller, too. It looks super fun. Yeah, and then the guitario guys did they're like DJ Hero one as well, which had like a turntable. Yeah, he was sort of mixed games and play with the fader. So some of those remixes actually weren't too bad. Soundhill HD collection, Rip. Rip, that's a bad remaster. Yeah.

Figure out of Championship, Super Mario Land. What's this one, Kay's Kaze? That's a cool little indie game that came out recently. It's very like Donkey Kong country inspired. So if you haven't, you've never seen that and you like old school Donkey Kong country games or like tropical freeze, you know Re Sports So for those are just joining us really is going through Wes's Instagram Game Rush account where he posts

His what would you call it? Treasure Trove of old and new games Yeah, it's mostly like you know The Treasure Trove I put like new pickups and stuff on there as well But a little more focused now I was going through a move when I was posting stuff. So I was literally just like grabbing stuff as I was throwing in boxes and like snapping pictures

and it was all like chaos and unorganized. Yeah, Scott Pilgrimers is the world. Is that is that it? Is that the first one? That's the first one, folks. We did it. We made it all through the account. Yeah.

Thanks for joining us. It's back in August. A little over two months now. What are, what are some like, some like Holy Grails for you to pick up in this collection? Like, what are you looking for? Oh. That's a really good question.

I don't really have too many Holy Grails left, which is kind of a word thing to say, unless I venture out into systems I don't really collect for or did and got rid of the collection. So I don't really have a Super Nintendo collection. I was always a Genesis kid. It's like a kid growing up.

So I don't have like chrono trigger. And that game inbox is like, you know, Superman box is like $1,500 and up now that I had days. So it's kind of like, that's nuts. I don't, I'll just, I have the DS version, or just, you know, played on an emulator. And like, I don't have a collection of S&ES games. So it's like, you know, what am I adding it to if I just have?

At that point, it's just like a piece. So, I mean, there's some really cool Super Nintendo games, but maybe like on the Genesis, like, Shining Force 2. It's something I don't have. Yeah, there's not a lot, really. There's a couple like Saturn games. I wouldn't mind picking up with the Saturn games are stupid expensive.

I was a big fan of this publisher called Working Designs. They did Lunar 1 and Lunar 2 on PlayStation 1. They did a bunch of Saturn games as well. And they used to do really cool, like, foil covers, you know, glossy covers, full color manuals, like stickers inside. They were kind of like the first company

to really do like collectible editions. Right. Which is like, you know, pretty much every game comes out now with the collector's edition. But they had this one Saturn game called Sega Ages that they brought over from Japan, that Sega made in Japan,

and just has like three arcade games, Outrun, Space Harrier, and Afterburner. Right. Who remember that? It's like 500 bucks now. And like, I kept wanting to buy it when it was like, I'm like, oh, it's $150, $200. I'm like, that's so much for this game.

Like, it'll go down. Like, it's gotta go down. It just kept going up. And it's like the one working design game I don't have in my collection. And like, I would like to have it. But it's also three ports of, arcade games, you know, it's nothing special.

So it's like, you know, I'm not paying $150 per emulated arcade game, which are probably better emulated on other compilations somewhere else out there. So, yeah, not a whole lot, really. You know, just, I don't know. I think nowadays I like hitting up garage sales or go into, like, game stores and see what I can find out in the wild as opposed to just sitting there and like hunting eBay

and waiting for that one game I want. Yeah, no, for sure. It's kind of like the thrill of the hunt. So over the summer, like spring, I was hitting up a bunch of garage sales. Nothing too crazy, but like I got, what did I? The big one. Oh, I found a copy of Dino Crisis too. Like, you know, there's a random pile of CDs.

And they're just like everything and there's a dollar. And I was like, you sure? And I was like, all right, here's a dollar. Do you always feel bad when someone's like selling this old game that you know is worth of way, way more? And just like, kind of like, I mean. Here you go, suckers. buck. And that was like one of the first like hunts.

I think sometimes if someone's like selling off like a collection or something, like I'll offer them a better value. I'd be like this and I know these games are worth more. Uh-huh. Like if I know this is like $100 worth of the games, like I'll get them, you know, closer if it's stuff that's going to go out of my collection and stuff. But yeah, that $1 one, I was just like, all right, I'm just going to go with it. Snagget for a buck.

I would say, yeah. If I were to collect anything, And like if there's a game that I wanted just to have, not even to play, just to have on me, just like, you know, to say like it because it means something to me. And I know you know I have like spoken about this one in particular a couple times. It would have to be Legend of Dragon. Because I remember playing that game.

To me, like I liked JRP's to a certain point, but I always felt like they were like too long and too grindy. And the combat was always like, in my opinion, boring. Like I think like the turn-based combat and a lot of these games are super super boring. Legend and Dragon is going to hit different because they had like the quick time events

you can kind of like control how much damage you did and like if you stuck that mash in the buttons or whatever you didn't do as much damage so to me like I've always liked that game and the music was super cool and the character designs were like awesome like just like the costumes that they put on

when they like transformed to like their next forms or whatever it was I don't even remember how the game plays but I remember least like seeing these really cool outfits when they like got in the battle and like transformed for like their super attack or something yeah you know RPGs that like kind of mix it up that you know put a little more action in their gameplay

can still stay turn-based but you know if they have you more involved it's not just like clicking a button and then just watching the action unfold yeah totally like that's why I love the groundia series like it's turn-based but your characters run and the whole thing of that game is you see where everybody's attack is on a lot bar and there's you have attacks that can knock enemies back down so you can kind of keep chaining and keeping them from attacking so there's there's like this real-time strategy Gigi to the turnbase mechanic and you know makes a game like that so much more enjoyable yeah I think uh like I I was playing through what's that game Zeno Blade Zinoblate 2 on the switch and first off that game just looks so bad like just graphically it's so bad the switch is

just such an underpowered and terrible console for a lot of reasons as much as like I love my switch it's just like not it doesn't hit right um But, yeah, like, the combat in that game is pretty fun, right? There's, like, some timing to it. There's some, like, way you can cheese the mechanics to get some extra damage or, like, build some extra meter, which is what, like, really attracted me to it because, like, I remember another JRP really loved was Tales of Esparia on the 360. Just because, like, the graphics were super cool.

It was, like, a cell-shaded anime kind of style, so it looked really good. And, like, it still looks good now. Like, you can play the re-releases on the Switch or whatever, and it still looks amazing because it's like super stylized. And that combat's like real time, right? With like manometers, stuff like that. So I definitely like the JRP's that give you a little more control over just the combat. Because if you're just hitting buttons, right?

AAA fight, whatever like, you know, the last thing you did. And you just do that until the enemy dies. You move into the next, like, you know, random, quote-unquote random encounter that they throw out you. But I know we were going to talk about a little bit about, news. I do want to talk about this real quick. So we're talking about Switch, right? Got a little bit of pivot here.

So Nintendo Switch Online launched slash announced, like is ready to go now. Their expansion pass that includes the N64 emulation, Genesis emulation, and I guess if you're a fan, the new Animal Crossing

DLC, right? And people are not happy about it. For a couple of reasons. Like, first off is like $30 extra a year, right? So it's like what, I think what the original price is $1999 for Nintendo Switch Online, which is for the entire year, which isn't a bad deal, right? And then now they're hacking up the price.

Supposedly because of the N60 formulation and the Genesis and then also the Animal Crossing stuff to $49.99 a month. Which still, I mean, to be honest, isn't really like that bad of a deal for like an entire years of like online service. But Nintendo's online on their consoles, across the board, has never been that great. And I feel like now that they're asking for more money, we should be asking for more. And that's what's going to got people a little pissed off about it, right? Like joining in on friends, you know, the voice stuff.

There's so many features that are missing from Nintendo Switch online or just Nintendo Online in general that like now that they're asking for more money, no matter whatever they're throwing in, it's almost like, okay, you know, like we were cool with it before because it's cheap. but now that it's more expensive and you want more from us, this is kind of not cool. What do you think, Wes? What are your thoughts about this?

I mean, from the PC perspective, it's hard to swallow that. I mean, online gaming on PC is free. Right. I mean, the emulation is quote unquote free. If you know what you do. Yeah. So I don't think 50 bucks is a lot of money

when you compare it to like what PlayStation charges or what Microsoft charges for just their core service. But I mean, you get, the PlayStation, you get, what, three, four free games per month, sometimes new games. So, you know, like we got like Ritual Fighter 5, like, brand new, like when that came out. Xbox does, you know, four games a month, you know, 360 games plus, you know, Xbox, you know, last gen, maybe current gen just depends, you know, stuff that plays like on the new systems as well. So I mean, I think you're getting way more value out of that.

So if 50 bucks is tough, I think my, my biggest complaint is I wouldn't have any issue. I probably would have upgraded. No big deal. You know, there is that uniqueness of being able to play N64 like Ocarina time, you know, like on my couch or in the car, like on the go. Sure, there is a 3DS version. I could play on my 3DS still. But the biggest problem is I'm reading and seeing that the immune. It's bad and I know n64 is tough to emulate for but yeah you know it's it's

Nintendo like this is your technology your games yeah you know it needs to be better like if it came out the gate flawless and like you know that I saw you can do online gameplay so I was watching a channel I used to work for called Game Explain doing like four-player star fox I was like oh that's really cool until I realize it was like laggy and choppy and things like that yeah online Mario Kart really cool you know those are some new features, which I think add value. But they'll get that emulation ironed out. Like, I'm staying away from it.

Because, I mean, there are ways to play N64 Mario Kart online and outside of the Nintendo ecosystem. Yeah. And I think that's probably the biggest problem is that like, it's not like this is the first time they're doing it, right? These games have been really, okay, I saw this. It's a really good example. I was watching which channel was watching yesterday, but there was, because I was doing

some research on this. Because like I don't, I kind of want to get it because I want to play some like Genesis games because like I played all these Nintendo 64 games like a million times over

like I don't care about them. I kind of care about more the console that they're like I never had. But like I was watching a video where someone's comparing the Mario 64 on the NSO

right, the Nintendo Switch online versus the All-Stars collection that they released and then unreleased. And that version is better. Like it runs better. and it's more responsive. But the Nintendo Switch Online

that you have to pay a subscription for, not at one-time cost, is not as good, which is even weirder that they managed to get it right in like one instance and then they didn't on like another instance.

But it's the same company released in the same game in two different places, which is really, really weird. Yeah, it's super weird because, yeah, there's some slight visual enhancements to the, you know,

to the All-Sars collection. Why not give us that version, especially since you delisted it? That's the big thing that scratches my head is like, I get why other games get delisted. Like, oh, the Scott Pilgrim game got delisted. The Ninja Turtle game got delisted because, like, you know, these publishers don't own these IPs and they don't have, like, rights for them forever. So eventually they have to stop selling. It's the same thing with Kraft.

Like, when we have contracts, we can only sell, like, that case for the length of the contract. There's usually a sell-off period beyond that. But once that time's up, if we haven't sold out everything, you know, you can't sell anymore. Luckily, that's usually not the case because we don't make a lot, but it had we kept, like, making a bunch. You know, we could run into where we have cases that we literally have to go put in a dumpster or, you know, stop selling. So I get that, but Nintendo owns their own stuff. It's their platform.

Like, the one that made me mad was that Fire Emblem NES remake they did or, like, port. Like, I forgot to download it and can't, can't, but can't. never play it. Forgot the day. It was like five bucks. I just like I missed it and like I would give them the money. They took the time to localize it. So you know,

I will pay for that. But like now if I want to play for it, I have to go through other, you know, less, you know, honorable ways to play the game. And that's because Nintendo won't let me buy it anymore for some

strange reason. Like, why are they making digital games limited? Yeah, I never understood that. And like it's, it's, It's almost like, I'm not going to say that I advocate for piracy, but I definitely understand it, right?

And I think, like, the best example of, like, why piracy is still a thing and why, like, people do it is, like, what Gabe Newell said when he was, like, launching steam and kind of promoting it. And he said that if you provide a better service than what you can get through piracy, then you're going to win. But the minute that you make it more difficult for the customer to do something or at, like, a lower quality, then they're not going to do it, right? And that's going to the same way. It's like, you know, it's like, I want to play Legend of Dragoon again. And you don't sell it. So, you know, the only way for me to actually experience this game is one, I don't, I watch a video, which is not the same. Or I download it with an emulator and quote unquote break the law, right?

It was the same thing with, like, anime, right? Before we started getting all these, like, you know, subs and dubs and a simulcast stuff where, you know, like X, Y, and Z show wasn't available anywhere outside of Japan. So technically, you're not breaking any license agreements in the U.S. If you download the show and watch it from a fan-sup group. I mean, nowadays, you know, you got crunch your role in Funimation and, you know, they're like snapping up all these, all these new shows. And it's, you know, I have no problem paying for those services because it's, it's made it easy, right?

I pay seven bucks a month. And if when I watch the show, I just go to my TV on my Roku, right, on my Roku app or my phone or whatever and I just watched the show as opposed to, you know, I got to find, you know, the subgroup and the torrent side, you know, download it and make sure that I set up, you know, my like RSS feed for the 720P. version of the dub that they're going to release every Tuesday or whatever. It's just a lot of hassle.

This makes it a lot easier. So, you know, it's a, it doesn't make sense to me. And like, I feel like this is the same thing that we've been, we like collectively as like, as like gamers have been asking from Nintendo forever. It's like, it's like, please, like, figure out your online. Please make it good. Make it work. You know, it's like, we want to give you our money.

But we, I feel like people kind of do it begrudgingly at this point, right? It's like, well, you know, I want to play Monster Hunter Rise Online, so we've got to pay this, you know, 1999 a month. But at the very least, like, you know, most games have, like, decent built-in social features, but the overarching, like, social infrastructure of, like, Nintendo games online is this is not there. It's not, it's no Bueno. Care Benagrabbit, which I think is the right way to say that. To paraphrase, Gabe, piracy is an issue of service, not price. Exactly.

Yeah, pretty much. 100% Like how much is Netflix up to now It's like 12 bucks a month Or something like that right I still pay that every month I don't care

You know they just threw Yeah Cowboy Bebup on there again I'm like hey I'm gonna watch this now All right I'm gonna get my $12 a month worth of service

You know Like they got games on Netflix now too They got that like Minecraft adventure you can play through Yeah Bender Snatch or whatever That thing was called Yeah

Bender Snatch they have Minecraft story What else are they launching I don't know They just hired someone to run their whole gaming division. So it's going to be interesting to see where they go with that. You can imagine being that person. It's like, hey, you're not running gaming at Netflix.

What? Like move over Luna and what was that other one? What's Amazon? No, Amazon's Luna. What's the other one? It's Google's Stadia. Stadia, yeah. I just forgot about that.

Do you think they're going to sell like a Netflix controller? Do you think they're going to develop and launch a controller for this? Maybe, like, I still have, like, my steam controller, like, plugged into my TV, you know, and it's crazy how it seems to, like, just connect, like, Wi-Fi to, like, my computer. Your, your what, I'm sorry? The Steam controller? Okay, yeah. Like, I have one of those, like, plugged in my TV downstairs, and my TV has Steam Link built into it as an app. Oh, lucky.

I saw the Steam, like, little device. Like, it's in the living room. It's kind of trash on Wi-Fi. It's not that good. Yeah. So, I mean, the app works fine for, like, playing, like, jackpardy and stuff like that, like, downstairs when we have guests over. I don't play anything, like, tense on it.

Yeah. I played most of Resident Evil 2 remake on my Steam deck on the TV. And this, I'm at my old place when I was able to get, like, a hardware connection. Because, like, if you play on Wi-Fi, it's, like, good for, like, five minutes. And then it's, like, it that craps out and just, like, gets really pixelated and gross and ugly and then you get the weight and it's really weird

I wish they made look at V2 of the Steam link I really would like one but you know if TVs are called this it's called the Steam deck that way well not really I mean I guess right

you put on your TV or something I don't know I wonder if the Wi-Fi will be good enough to support like game streaming on the Steam deck I just assumed that the Steam link is so old that

whatever like wireless receiver they have in that thing is just not very good. So, um, uh, see a couple questions here from chat. Are you going to watch Netflix, it's called me Bbop Blive Action when it comes out?

I mean, yeah, you kind of have to so we know if it's good or bad, right? Yeah, I mean, I'll watch at least the first couple. If it, yeah,

if it comes out, I'm just like, oh, this is bad. Like, I don't know if I'll make it through, but I mean, I tend to power through everything. Yeah.

I mean, you know, I'm not, I'm not that picky, you know, I'm digging, I'm liking what they're doing with the trailers and stuff. Yeah, they look really cool. It looks fun.

So, yeah. Looks pretty faithful. Yeah. You. And I like the Ghost in the Shell movie with Scarlett Johansson, so I don't have taste. Did you actually like it? Yeah. Okay.

I mean, I think from like a cinematic viewpoint, like they did a really good job, like, making it feel like the anime. Like there's a lot of scenes, like, you know, oh my God, straight out of the movie, you know. Yeah. from a non-scarla Johansson controversy standpoint like is a movie actually decent like should you watch it as a ghost in the shell fan because like whenever I try to find a review on it because I've never seen it

it's always like that's like most of the conversation is centered around that stuff which personally it's like okay I get it but like what about the movie is it good like should I watch it as someone who's seen Ghost in the Shell yeah no if you're asking me that yeah yeah yeah If you're throwing out like the, you know, this robot's not the right ethnicity. Yeah.

Then, which I didn't know robots had ethnicities, but I think it's worth a watch. I wouldn't say like you should keep watching it over and over. But if you're a ghost and shell fan, check it out, you know? And then when you want to watch a ghost and a shell, watch the anime. I wonder how many people who have that issue, like, actually have seen the shows and seen like the anime stuff. Because, like, here's the thing with, like, example, Kawee Bebop, right? Like, I'm surprised that they have, I forget the name of the actors playing Spike, right? But, like, to me, like, a lot of these characters look very Western, like, very white, right?

Like, Cali Bebop is, like, a space western, right? There's people from, like, all kinds of ethnicities in that show. And I just always suspected Spike to be able to be white, you know? Like, just, just to me, like, when I see him on the show, he just, he just looks like that to me, you know? So that's what always surprised me, like, ghost in a shell. I can't remember the name of the main character girl like off top my head but like to me she looked very like Anglo

right and that's like a good thing in anime like a lot of characters look very they look very like Caucasian right they have like that that facial structure that like the whole I don't know how you explain it but that's like always that's why I always I was always like

have you seen it or it's just because it's an anime right a show from Japan you expect it to be like an all Asian cast which I don't really care the way, right? As long as the show is good, or the movie's good, but I always find that really interesting, you know. I know, what do you think? Or thoughts on that?

I have thoughts. I just like entertainment. I like beyond that stuff. I mean, I'll complain, you know, internally, but... Inside I'm angry. My bar is very, like, low for being pleased. Like, even with games, like, I just want, I want cool special effects. I want, like, a good soundtrack, you know, I want the acting to be decent.

Like, you know, who's in it? I could care less, you know. And then, like, in terms of video games, if, like, the story is really good, or maybe the gameplay is really good, but the graphics are janky, like, I can look past things if I, you know, I just find that one thing to like about the game, and usually that's enough for me. Yeah. I mean, going back to the beginning of the conversation, like,

you know, I talk about Castlevania Lords of Shadow. A lot of people don't like that game. But I thought it was super fun, you know? I thought there was a lot to enjoy in there. And I dug what was there. And, you know, I got my cool abilities and, you know, did all my little spinny things with the whip. And to me it was like, you know, Castlevania reimagined and I enjoyed it.

Right. So, yeah, I'm kind of the same way, right? I mean, obviously representation matters, right? All that stuff, you know, that we've been talking about forever, right? is important. But for myself, like, I just want to see something cool,

you know? Like, obviously, like, where it makes sense, like, don't, don't be dumb about it,

right? But, yeah. I think someone else asked about that. Sondy nation and Crunchyroll. What's your opinion on that? Finally. I mean,

they own Anaplex, too, so. Does Anaplexe has his own streaming service? No, but, I mean, that's,

that's just more titles. Like, that they have, like, potential rights to. You know, so, like, Demon Slayers, Anaplex. Yeah. I am okay with it because I think that there's still other players in the market who are licensing anime, like Netflix and Amazon, and I don't think they're going to go away anytime soon.

Yeah. So I'm okay if, like, Crunchyroll and Funimation mix and kind of become stronger as a result. Oh, you saw Disney's looking at anime now, too, right? With what? For Disney Plus? What are they adding on this anime? Or are they...

Well, they had that... anime looking Star Wars, but I think they're looking at licensing anime, like, as well. I don't want Disney to have my anime. Like, I want them to stay as far away from anime as, as, like, humanly possible. I think we have Funimation. They do a good job, right? We have, you know, all these other companies do a good job at anime. Like, go away, Disney.

Stay in your lane. You're Disney Plus, not Disney Plus anime. Right? I don't want that. I think the only thing I didn't like from the merger is, I just realized I have like the VRV account and the other enemy service that was on there, High Dive is gone.

They like bounce. They're like, we're out of here. We're going to do our own thing. Really? It seems like I feel like it's because of that acquisition, you know. Where would they go? I think they're just going to have their own, they have their own service,

and I think they're just going to make it like their own now, like develop their own app. for it. So I lost, I mean, at this point now, it's like, why do I, I paid the extra dollar for VRV over Crunchyroll just because it gave me access to, like, more anime. Yeah. Yeah, that whole Crunchyroll VRV thing was always the most confusing thing to me. It's like, you can get Crunchyroll by itself, or you can get VRV, which comes with

Crunchyroll and other stuff. And then I'm like, so where do I watch it? And it, and like, I just, I never. I was too lazy, so I just signed it for Crunchyroll and stuck with that. Yeah, I mean, you're just like the app. You'll find out, like, on Xbox and stuff like that. Yeah. Or Roku or Fire TV.

Yeah. I think it showed you this other servers I found. It's called the Retro Crush, right? Which is, like, old anime. And I was watching, uh, was the day, I was watching ghost stories on there. And that shows. That's the best up of all time. Brick a hilarious.

It's so good. They just improvised the whole script It's amazing It's awesome Like there's lines about like Republicans and stuff And like the first episode When they're walking through like that like spooky house And I'm like oh my god it's so dumb

Yeah but If you guys don't know Retro Crush is like Old Old anime is boomer anime stuff I'm talking like Well I know how old this stuff is But let me see I'm going to scroll through stuff

Like Blue Sea There's Astrook bar on here. I mean, that's like, blue seed, that's like, okay,

yeah, I guess, that's like, that's like late 90s. Yeah, I mean, that's old by today's standards, right?

Yeah. GTO is on there. It's over 20 years. Yeah. Card capture stock, don't, don't remind you. Blue seed number nine.

Didn't mind me hold I am. Vampire Prince is Mew. I don't know if anyone ever watched that show, but I remember, I remember renting it from the same place I used to rent Glover, actually,

I was a kid. I rented Vampire Princess Meyu. It was completely like, enthrals. that a show like this existed, I have no idea what it was about. Like, I never, I saw it, and I didn't understand it, but I thought the aesthetic was cool, and that's why I kept, I kept, uh, what do you call it, renting it out?

Uh, yeah, retrocrush.tv and it's also like a Roku app. I just thought it was cool that there's a service. It's like, it has like old, old shows, if you ever want to dive into what anime used to look like before it got like Super Owu. Like, to have the kind of like that, that, that, like, 90s, Like 90s anime How like the best freaking looks in the world Like if you ever seen here

I'll show you 90s anime drip It's like the dopest thing in the world Prime example is Yiuhaku show If you guys ever seen that show Oh my God dude The fits on these peeps

Let me find a good image here That's like not Tiny's hell It'd go through all kinds of stuff To find his stuff Oh my God Here we go pull it up right here the fits on these dudes look at the drip

these guys are drowning tell me this does not look good I don't know what it is about 90s anime man but the drip is real hella good fits flame a wrecker

that's another one I like back in the day oh man you say about look at this this guy's got the cutoff cut off shirt open all the way down. You don't care. It's full lounging in his jeans.

This is really great for those who are listening to the audio version, by the way. But just pretend you're looking at the most fresh fits you've ever seen from the 90s, translated into anime. And there you go. Oh, man. It's good stuff. Geez. Was a show you never understood, Wes, like back in the day? You see this anime.

What the hell am I watching? A show I never understood. Good. Back then, maybe serial experiments lane was probably an anime that was up there with like making my head hurt. Yeah. I think mine was paranoid agent. I think that's another one. Another one that was like cerebral super deep animations. And I'm like, cool, dude. Like I just got done watching anyasha. Don't throw this stuff at me. I just remember with that anime. Like I was in junior college. I was. taking Japanese and there was a boomer of that era in that class, like this like 40-year-old guy who worked at like GE.

He was just like an old school anime, like fan. So he was taking Japanese himself and he brought like a really nice projector in from his work. It's adorable. And played anime for the class. And that's the anime he played. I'm just like, did I just watch somebody like jump off a building? Like what's going on here? And now they're in the computer.

Is this the Matrix? Like I'm so confused. It's actually funny. you say that because I always find I always find it hilarious that like people will show somebody something like anime and then not realize what you're showing them is like

too much right it's like you don't show one like right you don't show somebody's zero spring's lane the first time they're ever watching anime or something you're like yeah I mean I luckily it was my first time I pretty much rented everything that existed at Blockbuster there's some weird stuff like

I mean obviously there's like vampire hunter and Xer zone and I think one of my favorites from that time is, you know, like the movies was Project Ako. Yeah, that's actually the kind of like the Superman parody in a weird way, but like you wouldn't know that by watching it. Yeah. They stick a lot from it, right? Yeah. Apple Seeds, another one is a good one.

Apple Seed, yeah. Yeah, there's a lot of stuff on here. Dirty Pear. Yeah. Go watch the mold anime, folks. You'll be surprised. I have I have been wanting to watch

Was it It's called the Heroes of the Galactic Empire Is that what it's called? Or is there a different name? Sounds about right I think I know you're talking about I haven't seen it My favorite anime from the 90s

My recommendations You know would be Outlaw Star Is a good one Cowboy B-B-B-B-B-B-B-Ops up there Slayers Slayers, Slayers, Slayers Returns, Slayers Try

and my personal favorite is the vision of escapulone is is that one the one with the women or am I thinking about something different you know what I mean no the main character is a dude

his name is Vaughn but it's about a girl who gets like something happens that she gets like sent off to like a distant you know like a planet I can like see earth that exists kind of more in like feudal times Yeah. And it's, you know, it's a mecha anime, but it's not like hardcore mecca. It's just like literally Escafone is like this dragon mech armor that the kingdom has that like the prince like takes and uses to like defend this kingdom.

After it's been his older brother had like left and becomes the bad guy and comes and like destroys like in the kingdom and, you know, wages war against the world. So good stuff. Great soundtrack. Trying to think what show I'm talking about now. It's nice and funny. I think it starts in the E as well or something. I forget. Women one.

Like, what do you mean by that? I don't remember. It's just like this, did you say that? Just like triggered something in my mind about an old, old anime. I'm trying to think of what it is. And I feel like I can't continue this conversation until I find it. I think I know what you're talking about. I think I literally mentioned it to my wife the other day.

And now it's slipping my brain too. It's like a thing that comes up every now and then That like you forget Exists but it's like I want to say like a popular show or like an important show But like when like a lot of people have seen Uh Utenna

I think that's it Oh maybe that's Maybe that's it Oh God You ever see gravitation or red gravitation That was the first No That was the first manga I've ever read

That was Yahweh and I didn't realize until I was reading it. Like, and I was like in junior high. So I'm like reading this book and there's dudes kissing in the book. I'm like, what the heck am I freaking reading here? I was going to put it down. It was actually a really good story. But like I was just surprised that that was like a thing that you were just able to read and like nobody knew.

And I think that was kind of the like one of the coolest things about like reading and like watching anime and manga when you're like younger is like you get to explore these themes that you normally would not ever be able to see on TV because like, you know, whoever was publishing anime books or whatever the time of funnamation toky pop right all these all these peeps they just they just like oh this this book is relatively you know that this manga is relatively popular that's just you know this just put it on there on the shelf right and who cares what the what the story is about you just it's just out there now for everyone to read you know um like i read this one called uh hot gimmick which is this super super like uh My wife has a bunch of like manga that she read and I was putting it in a dresser in the garage the other day and Hot Gemic was in there. It's like Hot Gimic, Fushigi Yugi. Yeah. All the good show joes, right? I don't know. Is it showjo?

Yeah, it's for it's geared towards girls or whatever it is. Yeah, there's a yeah, there's a lot of interesting stuff that we used to read back in the day that like just, I feel like if our parents knew they probably would not have been cool with it there's who kissing on what in this book that it was cartoons it's a matter with you we got into some weird stuff back in the day

there's no there's no regulation nobody cared I mean I wouldn't say it's like any better now right you guys she was like you know like Goblin Slayer and all these other stuff that are like out there that you know you just watch online and you know you would never know because it's cartoons and parents probably don't understand

I mean so the anime I was saying enough I don't I'm gonna call it a girl anime but it was saber marionette jay saver marionette i remember watching that because like when you're talking about like fan subs i'll date myself fan subs to me were paying some random person on the internet like sending them basically blank vhs h types and vhs tapes and they would mail them back with anime i would pick from a list what i wanted and they would just put them on there you would you would send the tapes and you would donate and you would just donate like you know

some money yeah Sabre J has that classic, like, a jelly beanhead style of animation, right? Like, the cheek that kind of recesses into the chin, like, really deep. It's really funny how, like, how anime used to look back in the day, dude. I wish, again, like, if we're not watching live, or at least, like, watching the Vod on Twitch, you got to get on this. This is too good. I just forgot.

It's how good this stuff looks like. Yeah, I never I was never on that On that wave I think when I When I started watching anime It was on tech TV And adult swim

If it was a note Tech TV turned into G4 TV Which I think just What turned into like Spike or something I forgot what they turned into But it was like

It was like Yeah like a bunch of old boomers From like Silicon Valley Doing TV shows About tech and like tech news This is back when like cable TV had very specialized channels for whatever you wanted and it just it was it was it just worked right people just watched it and then at night they had anime on tech TV which is like

cool stuff I think I saw yeah dual parallel universe and some other stuff on there that was a really cool show or even before that sci-fi would do like an anime week oh you're right right yeah like once a week and like so I remember seeing like tensi muyo for the first time show 10chi in Tokyo tension the future. I remember watching I think part of the reason too why I had trouble getting into anime younger. I didn't know

what like the schedule for shows being like released was like I feel like at a certain point you're like watching a show and then like it loops around to another like it loops around to like

another like point of the story or they'd like drop because they're like caught up on like the dubbing or something and there's like nothing more. It was always the hardest part for me which is like why I try to buy DVDs but buying DVDs in 2000 difference between like you know

anime and American cartoons is American cartoons for the most part at least back in the day are very like each episode is contained and like if you miss 10 you catch the next one you're good you know generally there might be some tiny threads throughout but whereas like anime

is like every episode matters like to the whole story for the most part you know aside from maybe shows like Pokemon or a little more where you can, you know, you can skip some. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

I remember watching, like, I think Inouache is a really good example of that because there's so many episodes and like a lot happens in those episodes. And if you catch like one episode off, you miss a huge chunk of story because there's like a good amount of like kind of goofy filler in that show. And then there'd be one episode where like there's a big reveal. Somebody is somebody's dad. And then if you miss that episode one week or if it's like for some reason, don't, don't, don't put that episode up and then you watch the next one you're like what they like who what like why what's going on here um actually watching in yasha right now with the wife oh yeah yeah we're like five

episodes and she she watched it i never was hot back in the day but there's a you know there's like a follow-up now there's like a new one that's why i started re-watching it too because i wanted to get in on the lore what's uh what's your opinion so far five episodes in on yasha i don't know it's fine it's good yeah i like it mean i i i like it mean i I always thought Inuyasha was like a girl. I didn't realize it was actually like a dude. Just by like looking at the art, you know, long hair, you know. I remember I remember we used to call it DBZ for girls.

And I loved it. Like it was one of my favorite shows. Like I literally, my high school best friend, she was an amazing person and like really, really crafty. I don't know where she's at now. Hopefully she's okay. But she made me a necklace of the Ineasha like little beads that, that Kagomi put on him. It's like when she says like sit, he like, you know, he like falls down or whatever.

So she like she like carved up and like painted one of those for me. Obviously I was oblivious and didn't understand she had a crush on me. That was an idiot. It happens. There was a girl that invited me to her birthday party and I didn't go. And they're like, why don't you go? You know, she likes you. And I'm like, I make fun of her every day.

How does she like me? and she makes fun of me too like I don't get it like it seems like we hated each other yeah but then again looking back you're like oh man like really

yeah to be 12 again I know right so we're about hitting our like natural cutoff point do you have a heart out Wes you got some some meetings in time?

No I just have a meeting with my boss so he can wait a few minutes who's your boss these days Mr. Jeff Royal Oh yeah, I forgot Jeff in your boss Okay, I'm gonna ask How is it having Jeff for a boss? I imagine this is like

Imagine I want to say fun but Jeff is such a like Chill cool dude Yeah, that's fun He's chill, he's, you know, he's very Easy to work with He makes me feel young He's so old

Yeah I'm getting it's not that much older than me When's the When's the Jeff and Wes meet up for Barbie because apparently he's barbecues all the time i'm jealous yeah he getting a barbecue he was out i mean we met up a couple weeks ago and he came he came out and you know we got we got ice cream it's ice cream yeah what was this flavor and then we went bowling okay what's uh what's uh what's uh jeff's flavor of ice cream i don't even remember what he got i think he got like the

there was like a pumpkin holiday like offering i got it too Like I So He doesn't with the pumpkin spice type Yeah I got a couple things I got like I got two flavors He got one

Emily got another flavor I was like I'm gonna get all the flavors Just put them all in one thing right It was a very like Boogey ice cream place So it wasn't like just like pumpkin spice It was very like fancy

It was an organic pumpkin spice Yeah It was very fancy pumpkin spice Some chats asking What would you say are your guys' favorite cases? Favorite cases out now? Or just in general? My favorite case that we've done was the S340 Elite.

I think that was like one of our first like, I want to say first great cases, but it's like... So first ever glass case, you know, I liked how the glass used to go all the way down so you could like mount that SSD in the front, which was kind of cool. Yeah. I mean, the HTML passer on the front was interesting for like VR headsets.

I never used it because I didn't have VR at the time. But I mean, I mean, the most important thing is we wouldn't have this guy if it wasn't for this 340 because the puck came with that case exclusively at first. I get my half puck right now. I want everybody to love the puck as much as I do. It was actually one of the things in my interview and I was trying to get hired here that I mentioned was like one of my first. favorite products. I just thought it was super brilliant. I'm like, that just makes a lot of sense. It sticks to the front of your case and then you put whatever you want on it, your headset or whatever. And I feel like we need to really turn everybody into like a puck evangelist.

Like I really want the puck to be like, I don't know, like cases are cool and stuff, but everybody makes cases. Who the hell makes this thing? Like no one does. The thing's dope. Come on. Look at it. Well, if I have my way with things, we'll get there. Look at that. How can you hate this? This is this. This is adorable. I love this little guy. And then without the puck, you want to have Pucci. I don't know.

Where the hell? Oh, here. He's right here on me. It's always chilling on my desk. Ready for whatever social media endeavors he may want to get into. My favorite case has to be the one that got me into NZixie in the first place, which is the H440. I had an orange and black because I really like orange. It's like my favorite color, believe it or not.

Though it's impossible to wear it because it's orange. right and if you have a a slightly bit of a darker complexion the orange just looks in my opinion orange looks odd I feel like I look weird with orange but that was a cool case I I butt into it because it was like a silent case because I had like all the foam didn't realize they made it warmer but it had all the foam on it right and it was just cool it was it was like it was like it was like a big black almost blank case with like an acrylic size panel.

Yeah, I mean, it was a very innovative case, too. It was the first case to get rid of the three and quarter inch pay drive on the market. That's why I bought it too. We just loaded all those HD trays in there instead in the side. I had the power supply shroud, which I believe was introduced before that, but still, like, you know, to hide your cables. Yeah. That was great. I would say now my favorite case is the elite, the 510 elite.

I just think it looks super clean and sleek, and I still have. rocket and my temps are perfectly fine folks fight me find me every single day i mean i got the i got the standard h510 and the mass effect edition that's are good i um we were streaming a few weeks or last week or a week before that we were streaming uh back for blood and me and uh me and uh what's his name uh Alex traded off so he he streamed it from his PC the first time i streamed the second time and in the middle of the game like hold up guys temp check let's see what's up and that was like 50 degrees or something on both my GPU and my CPU while streaming while playing a video game, maxed out settings while chatting the chat.

And I'm like, come at me, folks. Maybe if you built your computer better, your attempts to be better. I'm kidding. I know that's... I got to run the cam overlay so you don't even have to get out of there. It doesn't work out of time. It doesn't work out of the time. I try to make it a pop up and it doesn't.

It doesn't. I think there's issues with DX-12 games. And so if you're playing like the Game Pass version. There are certain games to Like I know Apex is one of them Where like if you enable the overlay And then try to disable it It locks your mouse sometimes

So I was playing Apex Strafing only And couldn't move my mouse around at all I killed two people that way But it was definitely a lot of work What do you guys think in New Zealand? New Zealand is a very cool country I don't know what I want to go see the Shire in real life

I want to see all the sheep there's a lot of sheep out there um okay uh a little bit of extra news here it's one well maybe one or two more things um

it's something I think is funny and I want to know what you think about this so some people have been talking about if you stop playing uh Far Cry 6 you get these emails from Ubisoft they're like in game in universe emails that tell you things like

you disappoint me it was amusing you watching you fail like hello I wanted to thank you for giving me free reign in Yara which is the which is like the country that you're fighting for take it easy I know that Yara isn't capable of hands signed

signed El Presidente and then you also get you know your time played which I think is hilarious I think this is funny some people seem to be not happy about it at least the Twitter peeps seem to me not funny but I think it's hilarious that like a game will literally tell you like hey

you're quoting this game you loser what's the matter with you I think it's I think it's pretty funny too I mean it's a creative way to maybe like coax someone into hopping back in it they forgot I mean obviously people have weird reasons why they're not playing you know kids are busy another game comes out they didn't like the game you know but so you know some people are gonna laugh out of some people are going to be like you know hey my time's precious and stuff

but yeah i mean it's it was something it's novel like i mean you know they're gonna they're gonna they're it's hard to read the room on something like this ahead of time you kind of just go like it just might piss some people off i don't know yeah they might find it funny let's just see what happens and then you know maybe not do it again if like you know the general response is like hey don't spam us with this kind of crap yeah what i think is interesting is that it's it's um this isn't like an online game, right? Like, you kind of expect it from like a World Warcraft or like a destiny because it's like games as a service and they want you to keep playing and like pick up the new content and stuff

and all that. Yeah, because I've seen things like that from like Final Fantasy before. It's like, hey, we've missed you. Here's like two weeks free if you come back right now. Yeah. But from like a single player game that has like no multiplayer component that you can play today or you can play a year from now and it'll probably be the same experience. It is a little odd.

But I also think it's funny that like they're able to track this information in game. Yeah. Yeah, there was some kind of offer, maybe a little less, like, annoying if it was like, hey, here's a code for, like, you know, a free in game currency or something like that. Or here's, like, a new, like, outfit, you know, if you go back, like, some kind of, like, you know, content. Yeah. And maybe, like, I don't know, there's, like, a special mission waiting for you because you've been gone for a bit or. Because, you know, like, Nintendo does something similar at the end of the year where, like, they'll wrap up, like, hey, this is how, this is what you did on Switch this year. This was your most played game.

This was, you know, like how many games, new games you played or whatever. Like, they give you, like, stats. Usually it's an email and you click and you land on a website. So, you know, everyone's tracking everything. Yeah, like Spotify is the same thing, right? Like, every year at the end of the year. That's where it tells me my most played music is, you know, kids pop. It's a dad life, right?

Mm-hmm. Girl dad life especially I feel like I could get away with the music I listen to you with the boy more You're listening to metal and you're gonna like it I'm forcing you into this I'm sorry son Yeah Twitch is the same thing too yeah I mean I personally kind of like like knowing Like where I've been that year from like a gaming perspective or from like a music perspective

because it's always interesting to see right just like, oh yeah, I did listen to a lot of, you know, Drake, oof, like, you know, I was starting a good place in my life. I was really my feelings. The only one I don't like is when I get the Google Maps update email. What's that? Like literally because you have like location services on, they tell you everywhere you've been for the month.

That's weird. Like, no. You should have spent a lot of time at home. You should probably go outside. I'm just waiting for like, I'm going to. waiting for this. I'm sure there's the stories already exist out there of being like, I caught my husband cheating on me because of Google Maps. Oh, or wife or vice versa, you know. Yeah. All right. I think the boss is yelling at me now.

Let's see. What's he saying? Is he watching? He said okay. I don't know if he's watching. If he's watching, respond to me on Slack. Oh, here we go. We'll find out if the boss is actually keeping tabs on you. Um, Well, yeah, I don't know. I think it's cool in some respects. I think as long as it's not, like, super intrusive than, like, spam me all the time, you know? I don't know.

I think it's funny. To me, it's like, you sign it for these emails when you install these games, when you create your accounts for Ubisoft or whatever. So, like, you should expect some marketing emails, you know, and I'd rather get, you know, like a cheeky, hey, bro, you know, you're, you know, thanks for being a loser. I, you know, I win the game.

I wish they would have had, like, a little, bit better, you know, separation. Because I saw ones where someone's played like 40 hours, killed like thousands of being. It's like, you could do better than that. It's like, really? Like, you sure about that? Like, why not? Like, hey, man, like, thanks for being like the top 5% of all players. Like, you kick butt, you know? Like, you know, if you want to be top 1%,000, play like 10 more hours, you know, or something. But, yeah.

Yeah. I think it's cool. I'm down for it I want more of that stuff you collected a thousand icons in the game only 10 million more to go yeah I got a I get emails from destiny all the time

every time they have an event or a new season or something it's like hey come back and I'm like uh no right now like I'm burnt out let me breathe give me time bungee thank you I mean that's really pretty much it I have for news

here um I threw on here king of fighters 15. I don't know if you have any interest in in K-O-F. I am ashamed to say that I am not that much of a Mexican to like KOF that much. It's just, yeah, it's true. The Latin America, like, falling for that game has always been pretty impressive.

I played some back in the day. Like, I played a little bit of the last one. Just never really got into it, you know. Yeah. I've always been Street Fighter. As long as, if it has good internet, though, like, I might. I might, you might play them. I'm still behind the street fighter now.

Like, I feel like if I went back to that game, I don't know if my birdie holds up anymore. Bertie, birdie's still stupid. So you're good, I think, if you learn a couple things here and there. Do you actually know why KOF is so popular in Latin America? No. Okay, I actually know the lore. So what happened was, as you know, licensing and purchasing video games

and especially cabinets was not cheap. And it's especially not cheap. back in the day, during the arcade craze, right? And what happened was that when someone in Latin America, like an arcade or a shop or whatever, wanted to buy a, wanted to buy an arcade cabinet, you know, you can buy one from Capcom, you can buy one from S&K, right? Or like NeoGeo. And apparently the NeoGeo and the S&K ones were a lot easier to pirate, a lot easier to emulate,

and a lot easier and a lot cheaper to buy as well. Makes sense. I mean, and like the S&K machines were like four or five games and one kind of a thing. You know, he could be like metal slug, king of fighters, you know, puyo, pooho or whatever. Sorry, he's got a DM on Slack here. Yeah, so, so like, you know, if you, like, if you've ever been to like a kind of like a smaller kind of shady market or whatever, you see a lot of these like NeoGeo cabinets that like 50 games. on them, right? And that's also a

bi-product as well. So they were able to get, you know, COF a lot cheaper and a lot easier than they were able to get like a street fighter or like a Mortal Kombat, right? So because of that, you know, they just played a lot of King of Fighters and, you know, a lot of really, really good players in King of Fighters and a lot of these

S&K fighters or whatever are from like Latin America, like China, right, Vietnam. It's like a lot of players who are really good at these games from regions where it wasn't as easy to get like Capcom cabinets. What you think is really,

really awesome. And like whenever I would go to like finding game events here in SoCal and I'd be like, you know, just like listen to the crowd. You can tell like who's playing what game based on the language they were speaking. So there's a lot of people like yelling in Spanish. It's either Marvel versus Capcom 2 because there was like a group of old school Marvel heads or they'd be playing KOF, which is always hilarious. So my camera just died for some reason.

I don't know what's going on here. I think my logic software might have just take a dump. Oh, there it is. We're back. That's weird. Yeah, it was really fun. like I'll be walking around like a Wednesday night fights here in SoCal and you'll hear like no mom is away.

I'm like they're playing KOF. I can tell. That's cough over there. El Koff, right? That's what they would call it. Did they really emulate the NeoGeo back in the day in Latin America when it was new? Emulation slash piracy.

Like it was just a lot easier to get that stuff than it was the official Capcom boards. I am obviously paraphrasing a lot, but just TLDR is a lot easier to get. these games in Latin America than it was other games. So that's just what they really went hard on. So a lot of a lot of top K-O-F players in the U.S. are like, you know, Mexican or whatever, you know, from Latin America. I just say Mexican because I know here in SoCal we have a lot of Mexicans. And a lot of the people who play KOF in my local community are like pretty much all Mexican.

Really cool dudes. But they're like super Mexican. Like my Spanish is not good enough for them. Like I'm just talking, I'm like, I'm sorry, bro. Like, I'm just, I'm just too no stylebook kid. I can't do it. I apologize. Yeah.

Yeah, I think it's cool, you know. It's nice to see another King of Fighters. I don't know what art style they're going with. Actually, I haven't seen the screenshots. But I wish they would go back to the KOF at 13, like, all hand-drawn sprites. Because that game looked absolutely amazing, but I know it's very expensive to, like, to like, design a game. in that way.

Yeah, a lot of animation. Yeah, a lot of animation. All right. I think that's it for the question. Someone's asking about Black Friday sales, and my answer would be what we always tell you is we've had Black Friday sales for the past like two or three years or so.

So, you know, you can figure that out. Not saying yes and saying no. You know, trends say that, you know, that it might or might not happen. so there you go and then someone's asking west specifically about p.s.5 exclusives what you're excited for since you have a piece 5 there in the background horizon i guess is probably like the big one zero down whatever the sequel's called forbidden lands or something like that forbidden west yeah it's the big one i'm like being blanking on like what else is coming out from them obviously god of war god war is hands down like like the reason

Like I have a PS5. But, I mean, we'll see how this whole, like, PlayStation PC thing comes about these days because, you know. I mean, also, I can't wait. So if it's, like, a year before it hits PC, like, I'm going to play it on PS5. Yeah. But. So I was figuring out why my camera started wigging out on me. It's all right, though.

Yeah, we're actually going to talk about that a little bit ago. It's the PlayStation PC label for PC games. I mean, it really isn't, it's not really much news. It's just, you know, like, they just change the way the games are, are. are listed on like steam and stuff, right? PlayStation PC LLC, but I don't think it's like a different studio or anything is just what they're naming it, right? Like it's not like it's a, you know,

there's like a whole new group of like individuals who are pushing for, you know, for PC. But, you know, I think that Sony's finally kind of starting to feel a little bit of like some pressure from Microsoft, right, from Xbox where they're putting pretty much other games on PC. Like, I know Age of Empire has just launched today, and that's on PC, day one, game pass, right? I want to check it out. I'll probably play an hour of it and, like, never touch it again because I'm really bad RTSs.

But, you know, I think it's cool. And I think I read somewhere too on the ready of the day that the Xbox sales are up, like, 166% or something over, like, last year. And I think, like, a lot of it has to do with Game Pass, right? And they've been really, really good about just turning the Xbox ecosystem into, like an actual service as opposed to here's the console you buy and the games you buy. They're like actually getting your money other ways and in ways that are, I would say, really interesting. And in my opinion, like actually really good deals. Like I pay 10 bucks a month and I've been playing a million hours of Back for Blood.

And I've not purchased that game. I only got it through the Xbox Game Pass on PC and it's been a lot of fun. You know, I've got a button of hours in that thing. So, you know, there's no, there's no PlayStation equivalent. So, and I don't really plan on buying a PlayStation anytime soon because they're stupid expensive and they're hard to get. And I also don't have money. So, you know, it's just they're providing a good service and they're kicking butt. So your boy broke right now.

Well, whoever, I saw someone mention San Andreas for VR that just got announced like five minutes ago. Wait, did? It's come into Oculus. Are you serious? Where is it? It's on the verge. It's like one of the top stories on the verge right now. Grand The Vado San Andreas is coming to Oculus Quest too.

I don't have an Oculus. I think I do. Yeah, I think I should do have an old Oculus. I bought it from Andy. I bought Andy's Oculus off him because he was like, I don't play a thing anymore. I need to play the Resident Evil when I watched Maximilian stream, and I was, it looked amazing. He told him, he basically said it was one of the best gaming experiences he's ever had.

And he was being 100% since, year. Oh. Just how ridiculous it is to play it in VR. That's a RE4. No, Ari... Yeah, R.E4. Yeah.

I wonder why they went with R.A.4 or not something else. Because didn't they really do, like, Resident Evil with other VR? Yeah, I mean, my guess is, A, it hasn't been done in VR, so it's the, you know, considered, like, the best President Evil ever made. Yeah.

Not in, like, two. It's kind of debatable, but, you know, it's up there. It's a great game. It's got the recognition. It's not been done in VR. and then it's older, so you can play it just on the quest.

You don't have to hook a PC up to play it. So it runs off the hardware of the Oculus Quest too. Ah, that's pretty cool. So, like, you can play it completely wire-free, you know? Just put the headset on because it's outside in tracking. There's nothing to set up, and you're good to go. You don't have to be tethered to anything. My favorite way to be tethered is to be not.

So that's a... That works out for me. I think it's the quote of the show. Yeah. Good one to end it on. Definitely is. So on that note, guys, don't be tethered,

be untethered from life. I actually think I just said something really bad. Never mind. Don't. Be tethered to everything you have in your existence. Be happy that you're here. Be happy that we met with Wes today and went through some really cool stuff,

talked to a lot of video games. Yeah, thanks for having me. enjoyed it. Thanks for being on, man. I'm always down to talk about boomer games. Any time you want to replace Ivan? Let me know. I am.

We might just make just like a permanent thing. Ivan doesn't know yet. For those who are wondering about the giveaway, we will be pulling it soon. And then you'll be contacted via email if you won. So I think it ended already. I think it would set up like 1130 or something. So yeah, I did. So, you know, Steve gift cards all around.

You know, you can buy your Angie of Empires. you can buy your, I don't know, but what else you can buy on there. I don't you buy games on Steam. Buy some Steam games, folks. Steam's great. It's an awesome service. Thank you again for joining us,

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