NZXT PODCAST - #112 - Living in the Metaverse

Episode Date: November 8, 2021

This week on the show we're talking about the news! We discuss living in a simulation, Thanksgiving music, and UFOs. Tune in live every Thursday at 10AM PT on twitch.tv/NZXT and send your questions to: [e-mail]

Hello. I meet it? I mean, I'm not met it? Can't hear myself. Oh, I know why. Hello, everybody, and welcome to episode 112 of the N60 podcast, the official podcast of the N60 community. This podcast is recorded live every Thursday at 10 a 10-year-in Pacific Center Time of the official N-Z-60 Twitch and is available to stream on-demand on Apple podcast, Google Podcasts, Spotify, and SoundCloud. So kick off your shoes and relax your socks because the N-60 podcast is thinking outside the box.

That's not pretty good? All right. Yeah, pretty good. How's the auto, everybody? How are we doing? How are we sounding? We switched to new software today because I wanted to provide

Poppy with an amazing experience and he's like, I'm not going to use this. I'm like, okay, great. Well, it's just like, I don't know, every time you talk to me about anything related to the technology that you're using to record this stuff, it's not that I tune it out.

I just have no idea what the heck you're talking about so i'm just like just telling what to do like i don't know i have no idea what anything how anything works i just talking to this microphone and hope people can hear me and uh i would say 70% of the time they can't hear me nice nice yeah merry christmas by the way man yeah very merry christmas yeah apparently november 1st like right after right after uh Halloween it's just it's just apparently just Christmas time, just from, from, or the holidays, right? From November 1st until January 1st, it's all, it's all holiday themed. I don't know when we decided that was just going to be a thing, but.

I think we decided that last, or in 20, yeah, last year, 2020 with the pandemic. Because I know, I know my wife in particular, like, she loves decorating for the holidays. and we usually start decorating for Christmas, the day after Thanksgiving. However, last year we started like a couple weeks before Thanksgiving. And this year, we're actually starting this weekend. So I feel like after Halloween, probably a good time to just start decorating.

Like everyone's stuck at home anyway. Why not, you know, make your home look a little nice and, you know, bigger for the holidays. I love Christmas. I think it's a good time to have some fun. I think that, so just real quick, folks, you're going to hear my dog barking in the background and he's being a little whiny baby today.

And I decided to just let him inside the room. So you're going to hear some real talk. I think part of the reason why people don't seem to care that much about Thanksgiving is a couple of reasons, right? One, not everybody celebrates Thanksgiving, right? Or simply at the same time. I think like Canadian Thanksgiving is like five months ahead for some reason.

And it's like in the summer, where thanks for all the heat. There's also no good Thanksgiving music, right? So you can't just, like, spam the radio and, like, retail stores with, like, a bunch of songs and stuff. Thanksgiving decorations might as well just be, like, you know, like leaves and stuff. The only thing that's really, like, Thanksgiving-ish is, like, turkeys and, like, a cornucopia and, like, pilgrims who I think we've all agreed to, like, weren't that great people. To be honest, I don't need a holiday to eat like a pig. I'm a glutton like every day of the year. Exactly.

Exactly. We hear sin in every day. Yeah. And turkey, to be honest, is not really that good unless it's deep fried. Thank you. Thank you. Just plain like turkey with stuffing and mashed potatoes and gravy. Definitely overrated.

Not like if I had to choose like the best meal to have on a day where I can just stuff myself silly, Turkey would probably be at the bottom of that list, you know, chickens better than turkey. Tokey, turkey is a low-tier meat. It's very dry, man. But deep-fried turkey is delicious. If you guys have never tried a deep-fried turkey, highly recommend it, by the way.

Shout out to NZXT's favorite barbecue joint domestic. I just saw the Instagram post the other day. They're selling deep-fried turkeys for the holidays. So if you're in the LA area, I definitely recommend you go to domestic and order yours because they have really good food. Nice, nice, nice, nice. And there's a poochie there hanging out too, so you guys can go say hi to him. Yeah, if you check out the domestic, I think Instagram, right? You'll see a couple photos of their restaurant and there's a pucci sitting up top.

It's actually funny. It's something that Ivan mentioned to me. So the area in city of industry that we're at is where a lot of other tech. hardware companies are at. And a lot of these companies' employees actually go to the same restaurant. They go to domestic as well. So, be always think it's funny when they're like walking in, you know, to grab some of my delicious food and they see a, you know, giant, you know, N-Z-C mascot sitting right behind the counter. I put it there to remind them that NZXT is always watching them, even when they're eating. Exactly. You can't, you can't escape.

You always checking stuff out. Yeah. Um, so we, we haven't had a Poppy and Dencast in a minute. Let's, let's do a check. Let's do a quick check. So, Ivan, what mic are you using, dude? I got to ask. I am using the NZXT capsule mic.

Oh, nice. Yeah, it makes sense because I hear, I hear a lot of stuff. I hear like lip smack in. Oh, really? All kinds of stuff. Dude, it's great. I'm, I have, I am always using this, uh, handcripper thing whenever I'm on a call so I'll remove it away from that.

I can hear it. Is that what you're hearing? Yeah. I thought you were in like chains or something. There was like clanking, you know. Is it your soldier boy or something? That's fine. I'll switch to my fidget spinner. I always, I always need something. Honestly, when I'm in a like a video conference, I need to keep my hands busy. Yeah, I'm moving my feet like back and forth like on the ground a lot. Like there's a lot of fidgeting that happens that I'm doing the show. Yeah. Yeah. And then there's like a dog on my feet trying to like fight me. So it's been exactly. One month since we did a show with just you and me, so blow the whistle.

But I think for the rest of a year, we're like pretty much bucked up, right? You have a guest like every single week for the foreseeable future. Yeah. And some pretty awesome guests, you know, not going to lie. I think we had some really good guests this year. This is our second year doing the podcast. I was actually thinking about that this morning when I was in the shower. I was like, should I work from home today?

And I was thinking, oh, no, I got to go to the office because I got to record the podcast. And I was thinking, man, like, we've been doing this for a really long time. And we've been getting some really good guests, you know, like this year we had some, like, awesome guests. And we're going to finish this last couple of months with probably some of the biggest guests we've ever had on here, which is pretty cool. Yes, sir. It's going to be, it's going to be cool. We have some cool people coming up. So since it's just you and me, you got some news to talk about.

Poppy, did you get a chance to look at the news that we have? Of course I did, Dennis. I read every single article you put on that Trello board. Okay, so I got the first one here. Let me try off my dark reader. The first one here. And this is really interesting. And I think I saw this from like Twitter the other day.

But this is from Waypoint, right? NVIDIA RTX 30 series graphics cards stolen in truck heist. So this is funny in the sense that like people are actually doing this stuff, right? So EVGA put out a message on their forums and let me see if again, I'll think it's the list here. But okay, here we go. Please take notice that on October 29th, 2021, a shipment of EVGA G-Forse RTX 30 series graphics cards was stolen from a truck en route from San Francisco to a Southern California distribution center. The post said, these graphics cards are in high demand and each has an estimated retail value starting up from 329 up to 1959.

So they also stated further down here that if you try, if you buy one of these stolen cards and try to send it in for warranty or RMA or register it for whatever, they will not accept it. If you buy stolen goods, they'll not accept it. which I think they also linked in they also linked in somewhere like California Code like you know like buying stolen goods stuff like that so it's pretty it's pretty ridiculous it's funny it's funny in the sense that

people are going around like jacking trucks for video cards it's a sad situation that that's where it is where people are jacking trucks for video cards the funniest thing to me out of all this I'm going to send you this screenshot. Like the day before this news came out, Mike Metcalf over here at NZXT posted this eBay listing. Like someone has a lot of 100 RTX 3090s for sale for $370,000. And it's a legit listing. And we were joking around on Slack like, oh, did it fall off a truck? You know, like did someone jack those or something? And then the very next day,

we see this, you know, this news article and post from EVJ. And we were like, wow, like, People are seriously, like, you know, jacking it. I don't know if you can share that screenshot on Twitch. I'm not able to, yeah, no, I can't because it's on some Discord. Yeah, but basically it's just an eBay listing for a card at $370,000. So that's always hilarious. Yeah. Yeah.

I don't think I can look at it. Okay, here we go. Yeah, there is. So this is from all-bo computers. First off, if any account is selling something for this much, I feel like you should just like disable that account. Just going to say it, you know. It's going to say it.

But yeah, you know, I feel bad for the for the, for the EBGA folks. They had to deal with this stuff. I can't imagine like what goes into like having to deal with a truck getting stolen or like stuff getting stolen off a truck. Like this. No, sorry, go ahead. I was going to say I really want to know like like how this heist went down. If it was like fast and furious style. Sopranos style.

Yeah. It's like, you know, like some truck driver was just driving in the middle of the road with, like, dim lighting. And then there was two guys with a flat tire in the middle of the road. And they're like waving down for help. Like, hey, pull over. We have a flat tire. And then the guy comes out. The poor GPU driver just gets out like, oh, your boy, it's okay.

And then the next thing you know, you know, he's hogtied. And he's like, hands up where I can see him. Get the truck off. We're taking it, right? And then the truck shows up at the body being. and they give their respects to Tony and all the other guys, yeah. Or maybe it was an inside job, right? Like he calls like, hey, Mickey, I got a shipment here of RTX 3090s

that you might want to take off my hands, just saying if you want to heist this truck, right? Yeah. I really hope EVGA finds whoever stole these cars. Yeah, dude. I do honestly feel bad for them. Oh, yeah, for sure. That's a lot of money.

It's sucky. Even though I do feel bad for them, there is some, you know, humor and all this. Like I did think it was funny with the, uh, like the email address they put together for people to report this. It was like, what was the email again? It was like stop gpU theft at ebj.com or something like that. Yeah. I don't know. It's just I thought it was, you know, for some reason. It's funny, but the same time, I feel really bad for them. I really hope they catch whoever did this stuff. The, yeah, the, the, the humor isn't in what happened. It's, it's, it's, it's in everything surrounding what happened. And like that email for some reason it's like,

you know, stop 39 theft. It reminds me of like an email that someone sets up for like, I know, for like America's Most Wanted or something, right? You know, like stop crying at, you know, the LAPD.com or something. We should make an email like, you know, report bad airflow at ntsy.com or something. It's actually a good one. The other not funny thing, well, I guess it's kind of funny depending on you look at it. But interesting thing that this reminded me of was a long time ago back in the day, you know, NST, for those that don't know, we used to actually share like a really big warehouse with our buddies, I Buy Power.

And this actually happened when I first started working at NCXT. And I remember this, like, it was yesterday because it was so like a WTF moment for me. I'm like, how did this even happen? But I remember someone was literally just dressed up like a mailman. You know, they put on like a mailman uniform. and they just walked into the warehouse and they just like picked up boxes of stuff and walked out

and like nobody said anything because it was a mailman you know a mailman a mailman walks in and out of warehouses all the time you know like here at nzxte like every time I go in the warehouse there's FedEx guys, UPS guys, post office guys and gals

you know Amazon people and all that and like you don't really think of them as like possible criminals because you see them all the time but yeah like Someone walked into that warehouse that we used to share and stole a bunch of graphics cards and CPUs and I don't know what else. Like after it happened, everyone was like, if you just get jacked by a mailman? Like what the heck happened?

Yeah, it was really weird. So here's the question, Ivan. Did the mailman, did they look like this? I'm pulled up right now. Is it what the mailman look like? They just walk past you and you just didn't realize. That's him. That's him.

So for those know, it's a, for those not listening, who are listening on demand is a, it was a little giff of a dog wearing like those costumes are like the like, the front paws of the front legs are like the feet and then they have the little hands and stuff. So, all right. So yeah, sad situation. Here's another one that I also think is pretty funny. They got some comments on this, right? I don't know why is a video that's out of playing this, but luckily have all this stuff muted.

Facebook learns that there's another company named Meta. So for those I don't know, I guess Facebook rebranded themselves, like the entirety of Facebook is meta, which to me is so freaking weird that Facebook is not going to be Facebook anymore. And we can talk about that if you want. But the funny part is that there's another company called Meta PCs who already has the trademark for the name Meta, and they filed this thing back in August. So they sell computers, laptops, tablets, blah, blah, blah, blah, right? They sell computers and stuff, right? and apparently they're saying what is it uh they're saying uh see the danger and shut are like the owners of the company said that they will they will relent on the trademark if mark Zuckerberg is

willing to pay at least 20 million dollars so two things about this right first off is if you own a trademark that facebook i guess meta really really wants why the hell are you asking only for $20 million i feel like you get asked for like 50 million like 50 billion and they'd still have like enough money in the bank to do whatever they want. That seemed pretty low. It seems incredible low, yeah. And they actually tweeted about it, which is pretty funny. And, you know, hilariously, know, if there's actually a H-H-210 or a 210 or, I don't know what

shouldn't say, it's 200. That's what I think is funny because, you know, no, I mean this, like, with all due respect, meta-PCs if you're listening, but, like, if you get $20 million, for that name. I'm going to see you for $20 million and $1 for putting that logo on our case. It's funny. That's something that I noticed a while back. And I mean, this is just like my own personal thing that I like, certain, certain

system integrators will, like, put, like, their logo on our cases. And it's, like, very obvious that it's a case. And, like, I remember asked a couple times, like, is this legal? Like, there's a lot to put stuff on our, on our cases. And everyone's like, eh. I mean, I'm sure there's probably like, if we really wanted to, we probably could just say like, you know, don't do that. Don't do this. You know, there's tons of assistant integrator companies out there, you know, that buy cases, not just cases, but all sorts of hardware from us.

Yeah. And yeah, they slapped their logo on it. And, you know, if not everyone who's buying that stuff knows. you know, NZXT maybe, and they might think like, you know, like they design that case or whatever. Yeah. So, yeah. That would be funny though, right? Like if they sue and they win for 20 million, and they sue and we win for $20 million.

Just one buck extra. It's like, oh, man, we're really tapped out for that one extra dollar. Yeah, but I'm not a lawyer. I have no idea how that stuff works. Yeah, neither do I. It's legal or not. It's just I know, like, we don't really go after people who do that or anything like. Oh, they posted a follow-up video.

Hold that. We should probably listen to this. Give me a quick second. Let me get this pulled up. It should work. Maybe not. Oh, you know, because I haven't muted. That's why.

That's smart of me, though, do you have it muted. I'm proud. There you go. To reflect who we are and what we hope to build. This is the meta peeps. I'm proud to announce that we are now Facebook. Nice. That's funny.

It's actually pretty good. That should be great if they actually rebranded to Facebook PCs. Yeah, I think I think those, you see our cases right there in the background, right? Yeah, this is a, let me see. Let me see. Let me see. It doesn't work. Make sense here because that we have set up.

But it's definitely like a 510. I think that's a 510 as well. To be honest, it was actually going to hard to tell unless I see the cable management board, which I think I do see here. It's a 510 right there right behind them. Yeah, because a lot of a lot of. And I think the other one on his right shoulder. I believe that's a Courser.

I think I think I'll see a cable management bar. It looks like black and red. It might be like 500 or something. That is a 500. I'm talking about the one on. his right shoulder. I think that's a Coursera. Probably.

Create the model number. I couldn't tell you. Finley here in chat says Facebook made way over 50 billion last year. Yeah, see, there you go. They could ask for $100 million, $500 million, just a cool B, right? Just one big old fat B, but that was pretty funny, right? It's hilarious. And that's a really good tweet.

So shout out to made of PCs, you guys getting some attention from Facebook and news. That's really cool. You would think that a company as big as Facebook would know if there are any competing trademarks for the name. They're about to rebrand their entire network of apps and services and the metaverse too. It's like, uh, meta sounds cool, right? I'm sure nobody's thought of that before. No one has that trademark in any space at all. We're good to go. Okay. What are your thoughts on the metaverse by the way? I have no idea what it is, dude. I don't Are you talking about the metaverse in like theory or time like the metaverse as it's like the metaverse like it's like you know the virtual universe that we are essentially living in currently at the moment you know like it's it's true like you don't really stop and think about it but we are so our lives are so ingrained in technology now in many different ways you know video games being one of them you know like an example would be you know like watching a Travis Scott concert in Fortnite, you know, like, that's kind of trippy if you really sit back and think about it.

Or even like playing Pokemon Go and then you're, you know, you're at the park and there's like a Pikachu going down the slide you're trying to catch, you know, things like that. Like we're basically living inside or alongside technology. And that's what the metaverse's theory essentially is. It's just this virtual world that's connected to the real world that we're all kind of involved in right now. I think it's really interesting, man. Like, you know, I don't know if it's, yeah, if it's going to get crazier,

but I imagine it will be because I don't think there's ever going to be a day where humans just say, you know what, like, I think we've done enough technology. Let's just call it a day and never make an iPhone again, you know. It's like, things are just thinking of getting better and more crazy. So it's going to be interesting to see what happens now that it's like, you know, actually like a name. like you know meta like this is the metaverse yeah uh I mean I think we're we're

already living in a in a very uh it's a very what's the word I'm thinking a very like basic version very stripped down a very like rudimentary version of whatever the minute that whatever the metaverse is supposed to be I think you know we we might all just like end up like we're in the matrix right where we're all just plugged into the system and we're just living our lives through whatever place we're in, right? So basically, I think we will willingly put ourselves into, what's that, what's that word again? Simulation, right? I think at a certain point, we'll just put ourselves into a simulation and that's just how we're going to live our lives.

Because to be honest, right, to be 100% real with you and then I've talked about before, like, what really is the difference, right? Like, we could be in a simulation right now. So for those of you who are just real quick, trigger warning, if you're prone to having any existential problems or whatever, please don't listen to the rest of this podcast because you can be talking about this, right? But if you're already prone to having like, sorry, I lost my train of thought there because of the trigger warning stuff, because I know about it before. It's like, if you don't freak out, then listen. But I think that at a certain point, right, if we're in a simulation, we don't know anyway, right? We might as well just say we're in it and then we just

move on with the rest of our quote unquote lives, right? So at that point, you might as soul just hook yourself in to the matrix or the metaverse and just live there, right? As long as you can, you know, have nutrients in your body so you're like, so like your actual physical form is able to live, right? Whatever you're feeling and experiencing is going to be there, right? At a certain point, it feels so real like how you're really going to be able to tell. So yeah, I'm ready, dude.

Let's do it. To plug me in. Yeah. And I always like to pretend or imagine, I guess, that, you know, when I die, I'm going to take off this virtual reality helmet and just going to be like, man, that was a crazy game. I worked in social media for this company called NZT. I did this podcast with this character named Dennis. And, like, you know, that's definitely possible. Yeah.

Here's the thing there, right? here's the only argument I can have against the simulation if we were in a simulation why is in my life cooler like why aren't I Elon Musk or like whatever these crazy characters in the in the current world

that we're living in someone someone says something even if we're in a simulation what can we do about it well there we go exactly right if you're in there and you're strapped in you can't get out then what would you do at some point, right? But I would say, though, if you were in a simulation and we knew how to get out of it, would you take the headset off, Ivan?

Would you unplug yourself? Just to see for a second, and then we'll go back in? Yeah, I mean, why not? What if you wake up in a pod? There's this interesting subreddit called Glitch in the Matrix where people share stories that just don't add up, right? And people post pictures that just don't make any sense. you know, birds like in mid-air that are not flapping their wings

or like people at a red light and like every car around them is the same make and model color and everything it's just like weird things like that. I read an interesting one where this lady said she

tossed a fudgecicle to her daughter and like in midair the popsicle just disappeared and like they could never find it and like in the room just weird things like that. Right.

I don't know if they're true, you know, but if they are true, I would definitely like want to know and experience something weird like that. Oh, here it is. Here it is. Fuggeticle took a weird balance into the dimension. Okay, this has bothered me for years. My family was moving out of our home.

My middle son was starting college and my husband had to start a new job. I stayed at our home with my 12-year-old daughter and I was waiting for movers and we were getting on the road ourselves. On the first day, the mover came and asked, ask me one mattress, blah, blah. Okay, where's the fudgetical part? Okay. So I need to clean out the fridge. So I asked my daughter she wants the last fudgecicle.

She is sitting on the mattress near the wall and I toss it to her. So the fudgesicle bounces off her hands and hits the wall. We both see this and look at the floor. We logically know that the fudgicle must be there, except it isn't. I move the mattress. I go grab a book and toss it to her hoping to recreate the path this dessert has taken. You're both losing our minds. The furniture is gone so it cannot be hiding.

It's also a frozen chocolate fudgicle and I have a light carpet. And I have to shampoo tomorrow before we pull up stakes and move. We never found it. Movers came and clean all the carpets. did a walk through with the agency that was going to rent out the house for us, still no flight cycle. No stain to clean up, no wrapper, no stick, no nothing. My daughter's not 20.

And recalls this very clearly. This brought it up as the weirdest thing that ever happened here. We still have no idea how or why. I'm pretty sure my daughter, A, my daughter in an alternate dimension as a story about how I had nothing in my hand and a fudgeicle landed on her. Yeah. That's so great. Yeah.

It's crazy. Like, there's all sorts of weird stories like that. no idea if they're true or not, or if people are just making stuff up. But if there are alternate dimensions and we are living in a simulation, I definitely would want to know and experience what the other Ivan is doing in different universe,

you know. The other Ivan's in jail, I think. It's really interesting to me. If there is an alternate you, I think you'd be in jail. For like some crazy crime, I think. Maybe. Like in the alternate universe, I still graphed cards from truck. You're the Grabbiscard Heister.

It's you. My favorite theory about technology and why it's so advanced right now, it has to do with... Don't say aliens. Yeah, aliens and the Roswell incident. Because, you know, when that Roswell incident happened, and for those don't know, I'll just briefly explain what it happened. But apparently, in quotation marks, a U.S. The UFO crashed in Roswell, New Mexico.

A bunch of people saw it. And they even found, I guess, bodies that were, what they said, were childlike that they did autopsies on and they had like no insides. So people were saying they're aliens. And the president at the time, I believe was, was it Eisenhower? I think it was Eisenhower. He went to the crash site and they briefed them on what was going on. on. They showed him all this weird, crazy technology that they had never seen before that

was on this ship. And in order to protect this technology, the president ordered that it gets shipped to, I don't know, like the Pentagon or something in two separate airplanes in case one of the airplanes goes down, that they would at least have some of this technology on another plane, et cetera, et cetera. And what's interesting to me about all this is not that part, like not the alien part, not the UFO part, none of that. It's the fact that after that incident, technology advanced at the fastest rate ever in the history of humankind. When that happened, the most advanced technology we had was the radio and newspaper, basically. That was it. After that, it was television, microwaves, toaster ovens, cell phones, tablets, computers, all these things.

that we take for granted today that, you know, less than, you know, what was that? It was like, almost 80 years ago, I guess. None of this stuff existed. And, you know, we take it for granted now because it seems like we, you know, we've always had microwaves, you know, but, you know, we've only had cell phones or I guess the phones that we, you know, like the kind we have now with like iPhones, smartphones, I guess you call them with apps and whatnot. We haven't even had these for 20 years.

It's only been about 15 years since we had them. You know, it's, that stuff interests me because, you know, what if, like, what if that is actually true? What if, you know, this is actually alien technology that we're using here? I love thinking, I wish that was true. I love thinking about that stuff. It's kind of cool to think about for me. So if it is true, I definitely want to find out and know for sure. Didn't the U.S. government, like, just literally, like, say that, like, UFOs are real?

Yeah, they released the... Yeah, they released the... Yeah, they released the... Yeah, they're really. released the official report on unidentified flying objects. The report does tell us much of anything except that these objects remain unidentified. Nevertheless, for the apartment to officially acknowledge that we cannot explain what these objects are or how they move, breaks a long running taboo and taking UFO seriously.

You know, like one of the people who's like really like running the show and like EO stuff is one of the guitarist from Blinkwyneddity 2. Yeah. is Tom DeLong or something like that. Is that his name? DeLong DeLange. Yeah. He's like a, he, he runs his like society of like UFO hunters or something.

Yeah. Let's see if I can find it, dude. I mean, it's true. There are unidentified flying objects that we don't know what they are. Yeah. That doesn't mean they're aliens. It just doesn't, you know, it just means we have no idea what it is. It could be alien.

Like, I'm of the belief that the universe is so big that it would be very stupid and naive of us to think that we're the only living things in this infinite space, right? Because space goes on forever. We have no clue what's out there. Yeah. We really have no idea. And for us to think, like, we're the only things that are alive and are smart and able to do things like fly airplanes and, you know, play video games and things. things like that. It is kind of stupid because we have no idea. Yeah. Like we literally have zero clue that says that's true or not, right? Yeah. Um, as in give a shout to accelerate.

And also, the other thing too, someone actually, so last night on Instagram stories, um, and for those who don't know or don't follow, follow NXTA on Instagram. Every, every, every couple of days, I like to just answer questions from people on there on stories. And and then yesterday I asked, you know, like, what's your wish and some guy or gal, I don't know if it's a guy or gal, but someone said, um, I wish I could go to space and I reminded them, do you realize that we are all actually floating on space? We are literally on a giant rock that's spinning out of control right now. Is that really out of control?

Well, it's out of our control. It's out of our control. Yeah, we can't control this spaceship that we're on, which we call Earth, right? Right, but it's not. It's literally spinning, however fast it's spinning around the sun and with all these. asteroids and stars flying all around us as well with all these planets and whatnot. And we're on that rocket ship right now this very second. And we don't think about that, you know.

And if you look up in the sky, you know, you don't see it. Like we don't, especially if you're here in LA, you know, where it's like very polluted, you know, you don't see the stars. But if you go camping like Joshua Tree or something like that and, you know, there's not a lot of pollution and you're you stare up, you look up at the sky and you see the solar system and you, you kind of realize how small we really are and how, I don't know, just how, like, just how big outer space really is and how much we really can't, we have no control about that stuff.

It's really weird. Do you want to know the moment that my, that my, that my, uh, then my innocence died? I think it was like, yeah. right now. I think it was in like seventh or eighth grade or something. We were watching like a movie in class. It's a science movie about like the speed of light and stuff, right? Like how it works. And when I learned that we will, at least for the for this moment, right, in our lifetime, never be able to like surpass the speed of light. And we, and there's an actual limit on how fast and how far we can go is when I realize, okay, we're just never going to go to space. Like we can go to

space, but we'll never ever go to travel anywhere, right? Like the amount of like actual space between celestial bodies is like never going to, you know, we currently don't have any technology or like any feasible way of like breaking that barrier of like the speed of light. So even then like speed of light isn't as fast as we think it is, right? Like we look at the sun, right? Things like millions and millions and millions and miles away. We're seeing an old version of the sun, bro. Like that the sun that's currently in the sky is like sun like 5.0 we're still looking at sun like one point two right like they so don't like we're like way behind on like sun dLC yeah and another thing too it's like one day that sun's gonna die it's gonna explode it's gonna any of the best that sun is going to explode

and it's probably gonna like burn everything that's on this planet you know and that's a scary thought to think of thankfully we're not going to be around when that happens but someone's going to have to be there when that happens, you know. Because the best part about it, though, is that the sun, the sun is going to die and then we won't know, like, the moment it actually happens. Like, we can estimate it, right? But, like, we'll still be seeing, you know, again, like, speed or light stuff. Like, we'll still be seeing it in its current form for, like, a long time before it's

actually, like, gone for us. Because, like, you know, everything has time to, like, affect things, like, the gravity and all that shit. It doesn't just, like, happen. Like, you know, it's like it dies and immediately, okay, though, we're all burnt. It's like, it dies. And, like, stuff is going to. happen but it's going to take it's going to take a hot minute also just real quickly i wouldn't say

shout out to accelerate gaming i call these hopped into this chat and they're like what the hell these guys talking about i thought there was a hardware podcast they're talking about aliens and like living in the metaverse aliens have ended this technology we used to build computers that's a fact so see is the thing right if we had actual alien technology why the hell are we still missing out like if aliens gave a technology then explain GPU SAG why do we have the technology to not have GPU SAG hit me with that Ivan well because

so here's here's the other thing I like to think about right like I already I already told you that we are on like this spaceship we call Earth that's that's flying outer space that's out of our control you know it's not out of control it's out of our control it's out of our control We have no control over this spaceship, right? And I feel like humans, like it's human nature to think we are just smarter than everyone and everything because this spaceship that we are on, you know, that's true.

Like we are smarter than literally every animal at any other living species. Like we're smarter than them. Supposedly. Supposedly. We think we are, right? Yeah. For the most part, we think we are. But in reality, you know, because we don't.

know what's out there. For all we know, we can be just as dumb as these animals that we're on the ship with, right? And the other thing that we don't know is, what if we are the aliens? What if we are actually these aliens that we imagine in our heads that are flying in UFOs and crash landing on Earth? Like, what if we did that, you know, a million years ago? And that's actually us. And we're actually not that smart. We're not smart enough to make like computer parts but we're not smart enough to fix GPU sag so that's what that's how i think about that is like you know just because they're aliens it doesn't mean they're they're smarter than us you know they could also be dumb like us uh or we could be the aliens and we're not as smart as we think we are so like

it's it's there there there there has to be some alien life out there right and whether it's like an amoeba or like a little like rat monster or like whatever happens on that planet right is a thing, whether there's, like, intelligent life or not, is, like, a different thing entirely. And whether boxer in the chat's, like, throwing out a bunch of, like, information and, like, stuff that we should probably read. But there's this, there's this video I watched by Kurska Statt, I think that's the name of the other thing,

where they basically explain that, like, there's, like, certain barriers that, like, civilizations had to get past to be able to, like, reach, like, space-faring life, right? And, like, be able to, like, quote, like conquer the galaxy and whatnot and we're not at that point yet and one of the barriers could be that a intelligent civilization has already done that they know that we're here and they're just observing us and the one of the teens are going to happen right either we get to a point to where we can start to become a threat and then destroy us because they don't want us around or they like enslave us or

they work with us but most likely they'll probably destroy us right because if you're if you're big enough have to have like a galactic like civilization right like it's imagine just like a tv show for these people like yo do you see what's happening on earth like man it's crazy over there they got cameras and everything it's watching all over shenanigans and whatnot so you know can you believe they still have GPU sag out there these guys are crazy I mean yeah anything's possible we don't know like that could be that could be very true everything you said could be very true or it could be very wrong for all we know. So it's just, you know, like, people are going to believe what they want to believe.

Yeah. But I'm of the opinion and belief that, you know, I rather just believe that anything's possible than believe, you know, something is absolute. You know, I'm open to any and all possibilities. Yeah. I don't know. I think I prefer to live that way. because I don't like to think, you know, that I'm, but I know the answer.

Like, for example, like, Exelary Gaming came in here and they said that the Earth was flat. You know, I'm sure, I'm sure they were joking. At least I hope they were joking. Imagine that's like a pillar of that company. There's people that literally believe that, you know, like, the people that just go out there and, like, hey, the Earth is actually flat. But I don't know if that's true or not, you know. Like, I don't, I want to say, you. the earth is round. I want to say the moon isn't hollow or made of cheese, right? But at the same time,

I also want to be like, okay, even though I don't think that, I'm open to that that possibility that, you know, we can one day discover, hey, guess what? The Earth is actually flat. Or, hey, guess what? The moon is actually made of cheese. Hey, yeah, brother. I'm ready for that. Yeah. All right. So, So I asked if he applied for partnering affiliate now. We don't have the, we don't meet the requirements for any of that stuff. We had to speak to someone at Twitch and I'm too lazy to do that. Okay. So that was fun.

Next piece of news is the really is no way to to shift away from that type of conversation in any way that makes sense. But isn't going to near and dear to my heart a little bit. Crafton to acquire Subnotica Studio Unknown Worlds. Studio will remain independent under new ownership, new projects later for 2022. So, photos we don't know who unknown worlds are. Unknown worlds are the peeps who made Subnotica. Subnotica 1 and Subnotica like Arctic Freezer, or the heck the second version is.

Also Zen of Sudoku. And they also made, so this is cool. They got their start modding Half-Life games. And their mod was natural selection and natural selection too, which is pretty much all been abandoned by the company. And I know I've spoken about natural selection in like forever. Is it Craptin the pub, the, the dev for PubG? Yes, they are. They went from Blue Hole to Crafton Group now.

And I think, I don't know why they call Crafton, but they're Crafton. And yeah, so they claim that the studio will remain independent. I don't believe it. I feel like no matter what, if you're under a publisher, there's always going to be some kind of like something happening, right? Even if it's like a 1% change or something, you know, I don't believe. be ever truly independent if someone else is writing your checks you know um so i just thought was really interesting news um that craft in purchased i guess you know or acquired uh unknown worlds i'm curious what this means for natural selection because uh as i mentioned this in the past uh ns2 is like almost

like an old it's it's it's almost a 10 year old game at this point um it's completely developed by like the community right like the community is just the you know they've They've handed over the reins like, hey, we're done with this game. We're not going to make any more money off of it instead of killing it. If you guys want to work on it and serve the community that way, y'all can go ahead and do that. So I can see this being like an issue with like intellectual property rights or licensing or something where they go, hey, listen, we'd love to continue to allow the community to like develop on this game. But since we own it, it's so there's like a liability somewhere and then it's going to kill it. I'm not sure that's going to happen.

Or, or, or. In 2022, we're finally going to get Subnotica Battle Royale. I'm ready for that. Actually, I don't think they will, to be honest, because I think some of the heads of like Underworlds have gone on record saying that the way that they made somnodica, the way they did is because they're quote-unquote pacifists or something and they don't want to do combat anymore. which I mean is interesting because

not just elections about shooting aliens and biting Marines it's the exact opposite but I mean you know So Mnattica is a huge game like I played it before It's super fun as heck right so Yeah so Monika It's great game

I didn't play a lot of it Spooky I have played it here and there And it's really cool Same thing with PubG I haven't played a lot of it But I do think it's a fun game You know the times I played it

So yeah I mean we'll see what happened Yeah, so that's that's that. I wonder if Ivan has any comments about what's in the sea because we're talking about some nonica and stuff. It's funny that what was it like? I do have a comment on what's in the sea, Dennis. I'm glad you asked. I'm very scared of what's in the sea, to be honest.

And the reason why I'm scared is because most of this, rocket ship that we're on that we call Earth, right? Most of this spaceship is covered in water. And we humans, who we call ourselves the smartest, you know, organisms on this planet, we still haven't discovered the majority of what is under that water. Yeah, I just looked it up. More than 80% of our ocean is unmapped, unobserved, and unexplored. That's scary to think about, man.

It's crazy, right? Yeah, it's crazy because if there's weird animals down there, you know, like, oh, there are. Look at a lobster, right? A lobster is basically like a giant cockroach that we eat, you know, and it's very expensive to eat. You know, we put butter on it and we, you know, we go to a fancy restaurant, eat that. But it's basically the cockroach of the ocean, but it's, I mean that like, not that like it's a gross thing, but it's just a weird animal with, like, claws that's just, like, you know, roaming around the bottom. of the ocean killing things and, you know, like sharks are really scary, whales are huge. Like, can you imagine if sea creatures lived above water?

How imagine having you like deal with killing lobsters because they're, you know, eating your, your cereal the same way, like, you know, a rat will co in your cupboard every once in a while like make you know dig a hole and like start eating your food like imagine that was like a lobster like how creepy would that be um or if uh instead of seeing birds fly around what if like it was these giant killer whales uh you know walking around the streets and they saw you like they would just gobble you up you know the ocean's a scary place man yeah some lobsters can live uh i think up to like or like close to close to or like close to or like over like 100 years.

There's some monsters like hella old out there. Yeah, they're pretty crazy. Did you also know, Ivan, that lobsters' teeth are located inside their stomach? I did not know that. The more you know. I was a... Creaky animals, man. I was on this TikTok channel or TikTok pages.

This dude who's like a fisherman and they catched lobsters. And apparently they don't take like mating females or something. And like he'll literally like pull up a lobster. and like, hey, like, here's, like, a bunch of eggs under its butt. It's like, and then it took, like, a little clipper thing and then, like, oh, yeah, I saw that. Yeah. I saw that.

Yeah. Yeah. They slipped the tail, so, like, you can tell them that they catch that one and they chuck it. That was really weird. Yeah. The ocean's in danger, dude. We're, like, fishing the heck out of it thing. Yeah.

Like, we're, like, throwing, like, trash everywhere in it. And we're, like, throwing oil in it every, every, like, five years, like, a giant oil spell. Like, it's, it's bad, do you? Yeah. We're really doing a lot of damage to this planet. Not just the ocean, but just in so many different ways. It's really sad and scary.

It's one of those things, too, where, like, you know, if there was, like, an alien civilization watching us, they're probably like, man, these fools did it again, like with this oil. Like, yo, stop. The sun's right there. There's power for you. Yeah. You know that wind? You can use that for stuff.

Like, what are you missing with this oil for? Yeah. It's true. Yeah. There are, like, accounts of, like, um, Ancient peoples, like when they talk about the ocean, they said that like it was like so full of fish that it was like frothing. It was like it was like an insane amount of like ocean life that it was just like you couldn't do anything without seeing like a million fish everywhere. Like now you look at it and it's like oh yeah, there's like maybe like an octopus chilling or something. Yeah. Do you see that video where the dude shows how to humanely kill a squid? I want to say yes because I do remember

is nuts I do remember people I remember reading comments or like this shouldn't be on social media or something like that yeah and I think it was for that video I think that's dumb because you'd be honest like in my opinion people eat animals all the time I think if you're really afraid of how the animal is like slaughtered or whatever like then you shouldn't be eating animals right

but like literally he's like all right you hold the the squid flat and you karate chop one part in its back, and then you karate chop another part, like on its head, and then it just, like, apparently dies. I don't know the biology behind it. I'm sure someone in the chat probably knows, but he's just insane.

He's just like, chop, chop. And then it's just like, okay, now you can eat it if you want to. I'm like, oh, well, now I know, right? If you ever get a fight with, like, a giant squid or something. But supposedly, right, again, the ocean, right, there's, like, giant squids in there. You know, like, every, like, other year or so, like, this giant squid just washes up on shore.

We're, like, we don't know where the hell these things live, and they're super huge. you probably just chop that thing and you'll probably get out if it ever tries to eat you. So, you know, if you're in the ocean, you got to protect yourself, right? It's dangerous in there. Sharks and whales. I think, I think the reason people, you know, eat, not just meat, but different types of food is because it's convenient, you know, like we can just go into a grocery store and be like, you know, I want, I want some steak. I want some candy bars.

I want some chips. I want soda. I want some bananas, whatever. But imagine if you had to hunt and gather for all your food, what would you be eating? Like, would you, you know, kill a cow every time you wanted a hamburger? Would you, you know, take the time it takes to grow fruits and vegetables so you can make a salad? Yeah. I don't know.

Like, I don't know what people would do. But there was a time where humans had to do that. and now it's not the case, so I feel like now we're kind of, I don't want to say spoiled, but I don't think we really think about what we put inside of our bodies because we can literally put anything in there. Anything we want, it's just like we just put it inside of us

and survive, right? I have a theory, and this is a conspiracy theory, that the reason why they regulate, like, what you can and can't plant and, like, the stuff you can have like on your sidewalk and whatnot is because if we didn't, then you just be able to grab food wherever you want. Because there is a time in my early 20s. I'm an older man now. I was hanging with a friend of mine late at night.

We're just walking through the streets of Santa Ana. And I'm not going to say why we were walking around that late at night. But just walk around late at night, you know, having a chill time. You know, it's chilling. Hashtag Santa Ana Problems? Yeah, hashtag Santa Ana Problems. And we're in like a residential neighborhood. And I'm like, man, I'm hungry.

And my friend goes, oh, dude, I got you. We walk, we just walking past his house, and he breaches a hand up to a tree and pulls it up a quabba. I'm like, what the heck? He's like, yeah, dude, he's like, this house is a guava tree. You can just grab it off. You know, just just pull it. And I'm like, why do people go hungry?

You're like, there's food everywhere. Just walk around a neighborhood and just grab something off like an orange tree or something. And then I realize it's probably mostly like predominant and like, probably like Hispanic and like Asian neighborhoods because they plant a lot of stuff like that. Like my parents have a lemon tree. They have a lime tree. they're growing an avocado tree and I think of banana tree or something

My parents too I have two guava trees And just this last weekend my mom made us Some guava jam It's really delicious I love guava so guava is delicious But it smells bad if you're not used to it I bought this

It isn't something I bought this vape juice That's like guava flavored But it's not like guava candy flavored It's like what the actual fruit smells and tastes like And like guava plants or guava fruit doesn't smell good, right? It's almost like papaya.

How like papaya smells kind of like gross and almost like threw upy or whatever. But like the actual guava itself is freaking delicious. Yeah. So yeah, there's a, I feel like the government is trying to keep us hungry, trying to keep us going to grocery stores and not from growing our own food. You feel like they don't like it.

And I feel like certain communities don't care and we'll just do what they want, which is why if you go to super Hispanic neighborhoods, you'll hear a wrist like at 6 in the morning. Yeah, I hear one every morning. Yeah, you see your wrist just going nuts. I say, I guess I'm awake. Okay, next foot of news here.

This is pretty hilarious. This is a whole story. Who? Okay. Let's see her. custom PS5 plate company Darius Sony to sue it Get sued troll Sony again

So TLDR What happened is that People like to make Like side panels and stuff For PlayStation consoles and other Sony products And apparently they're very litigious And they don't like people to do that

So they'll sue the heck out of them all the time So Dbrand, right? Our friends over at Dbrand Made a side panel for the PS5 and they literally said like we dare Sony to sue us

right and Sony did and they're like well you have no legal leg to stand on because you don't have like a trademark or patent on that design

so Sony then got a patent or whatever for that design and they go okay great now that you have an official patent now we can design around that patent to get around it so they made a side panel that has holes for venting

that there's events the vents the PS5 where the fan sits. It's like a pretty funny way of like getting around some of these litigiousness around the way the people make panels for the thing. Because like it even says here in like the article, right? The PlayStation 5 console is an ugly machine. I don't think the PS5 looks good.

I'm sorry. Personally, I don't think like from a design standpoint, the thing looks wonky as hell, dude. But the fact that they're like suing people out here because they're making like panels for the stuff that, you know, that like it makes zero sense to me like it's like if we like sued someone for like i don't punching holes in an h510 right like not the flow just like the original 510 or something because we see that all the time there's like a couple companies out there who will make like uh side panels

and like vent holes or whatever for like a bunch of our cases and we're like okay hey that's really really cool you know congratulations you know enjoy your vented case if you want right and we leave it at that like if we started suing like that doesn't look good on anybody it doesn't good on us, right? It's going to hurt that person who put time and effort to doing it. Like, there's, there's companies out there who literally sell side panels for our cases. And we're like, okay, cool, right? They sell panels for, like, the H1. The H1 is, like, a huge community of people who are making, like, panels for it. And I'm like, okay, like, do your thing. Like, like, yeah, I mean, like, I feel like these types of lawsuits really hinder innovation. Yeah.

when it comes to, you know, making things better. Yeah, because, like, who cares, man? Like, if people don't like the way that your product looks and they want to buy something that someone else makes to make it look better or perform better, to me, that's a good thing, you know? I don't think that's a bad thing. And whether it's our computer cases

or whether it's a PlayStation, I feel like that sort of stuff is important because, like, once someone buys, your PlayStation or when someone buys your computer case, they have already given you the money for what you are offering. Yeah. And if they want to buy something from someone else that someone else is offering that they would prefer to have on that thing, I think that's awesome.

Like I don't think people should be suing for things like that. Agreed. And I think like if Sony was making their own side panels, I can see like an argument for that, right? Like you're taking away from their business, blah, blah, blah. But even then, like, who cares? Like, the majority of people aren't going to be buying from, like, these third-party companies. They're probably going to be buying from the official source anyway. And you can also, like, mark them up with, like, you know, like a huge markup and making

even better and people will just buy yours instead. So I see here. Dbrand said, right, the reality of this dark plate, of this dark plate's disputes is quite simple. You can't successfully sue someone over an alleged design infringement without having a registered design patent. Sony did not have a registered design patent for the PS5 side panels when we launched dark plates or for many, many months following the release. We didn't think they'd ever get one.

They did. Here we are. Now that Sony has patented the design of the side plates. However, D. Branden thinks they can officially launch a brand new design that's legally distinct from the Sony patent. And they're on pre-order right now and you can buy them for $69. We're just kind of just like, it's just like a beautiful story. It was like hilarious.

Like one company trolling another company. I love seeing companies mess with the company. companies. To me, it's like my favorite thing because like the little guy can do it, but I feel like it's not as effective as like when a actual established organization, it's like, hey, we're going to mess with this company because we can and it's for money. To me, it's like the best type of like, the best type of capitalism, right? It's like companies mess with the companies literally trails the heck out of them. You know, because they're not hurting anybody, right? They're making a product. I'm sure they're creating jobs for this thing. You know, they're fulfilling a market that's out there that

people want. So, you know, like, it's, there's, it's, there's something wrong with it, right? Other than, like, the cost of this, of everything. But that's, you know, whatever. Everything else's the cost, right? We live in a society, folks. You can't get away from it. We do.

All right. Evan, they've got some community questions, don't we? Yes. What we got? Let's see. Well, you're showing the Trello screen there, so I want to get rid of it. Yes. So dope wants to know,

will you guys have a Black Friday sale? And the answer is, we've had a Black Friday sale every single Black Friday for the last several years. So I'm assuming, if I were a gambling, man, if I were a betting man, I would be willing to bet that we would be doing one as well this year. No way, dude. I don't believe it. Umnum Live wants to know. Does NZXT have any plans to make software similar to Elgato Link since you guys have the capsule now? like everything, we can't confirm or deny what we are or are not working on, but we can always verify that we are constantly working on new stuff,

and we're always improving what we already got out there, and that includes CAM. So we have a CAM team that's constantly trying to make things better. And if you're a CAM user, you probably notice the recent release that came out yesterday. It solves like a problem that a lot of people were having with freezing issues with AMD CPUs. And that has been fixed. So, you know, now is time to move on to the next thing, whether that's fixing another bug or adding another feature. You guys will find out soon.

Actually, so I want to add on to this. And I want to confirm that Patrick did say on the capsule podcast that we were working on software solutions, but he didn't say what those were. That's really pretty much it. So stay tuned. I don't know when that'll be a thing. Next question is from Johnny Vegas and I see Elite Season on here. I've seen several of these questions in the chat today about when would the H510 flow be available. So it would be available on our website here, North America, NZXC.com before the end of the month that I do know for sure. but depending on where you live

you go to nzacocc.com slash retailers it's already available in some some other locations on different parts of the world so that explains why you've seen you know people with flow cases and you go on websites and you're like

why the heck can I buy this yet so it's coming soon don't worry it will be here soon it's probably stuck in a boat the Port of Los Angeles or something yeah so for those I don't know there was like a huge you know, delay with, not just with, like, computer hardware, but just stuff shipping in general. The ports were backed up, like, immensely.

And just last week here in Los Angeles, where we are, they passed this, like, new law that effectively, like, makes the ports open 24-7 because they're trying to clear out this backlog. There's literally like a long line of boats just trying to, like, deliver stuff. So it'll get here soon. See, I'm going to go to the next question. Elite season, do you have an ETA on 12th Intel, 12th Intel processor availability?

Oh, that was the Intel CPU just, I think was announced yesterday, was it yesterday that it officially released? Yeah, something like that. We will, like everything, you know, we will have it available on our website. as soon as we can get our hands on them you know um don't have an official date that has been given to us yet um but when i say us i mean us the social team that you know we'll let you guys know but i do know we are going to get on our website i also do know that if you have a a crack in water

cooler and you bought one of these um cpus if you go to our website you know you can request one of those brackets and we will send it to you as well Yeah, I have a follow-up question here. Someone asked, is it worth to buy the flow off a non-NA website or wait for the NA drop? As long as it's an authorized retailer, and you can see that on our website, then you're good to go if you don't want to wait. But it should be super soon. No matter where you buy it from, you're still going to get back, unless you buy a stolen one, I guess. No matter where you buy it from, you know, NDXT products are backed by a warranty.

and even you buy it from Amazon or wherever, our customer service team will always help you with an NCXT products. Yeah, and just to clarify on that too, because it's something that I see a lot on social. If it is an authorized retailer and you have proof of purchase, you're within warranty 100%. If you bought it from not an authorized retailer, even with proof of purchase,

we'll still help you, but we might charge you for like a panel or something like that. And the reason why is because we have deals with these authorized retailers to sell the product, right? If it's from a non-authorized retailer, we don't know where they got it from, what they paid for it, what the state of that product is, or things like that. There's a lot more to it, but just make sure you're buying from an authorized retailer. So basically the big ones, you're good to go. Yeah.

Buy it from like Ivan's PC shop at Gmail or something that might not be the best place to buy it from. Next question. I don't know who asked it, but they asked, does Can't Fix Windows 11 for AMD users as well? As far as I know, like, Cam works fine with Windows 11. I have Cam and Windows 11 installed on my laptop, and I haven't had no issues, but it's not an AMD laptop. So if there is an issue that you're experiencing, because I have not heard this before,

go into Cam and then click on the word section is it in. Support section. Or option section. I think it's in the setting section or something. You can actually report a bug. I have my cam close Oh yeah Pick on settings

Go to support And then you can give us Like a detailed description Of what you're experiencing And all that is logged In the cam A hot board which is public So you can go in there

And see like which tickets Are being worked on and whatnot All right Next question or I guess final question So that we could We could do some other stuff Are there plans for more flow cases Like the H710 flow

So currently we have not announced or have been told anything about that. If we do and we're able to tell you, we'll tell you. But what I can say is that, I think I talked about this last time, is that the temps and the 8, 7, 10 seem to be pretty good from what I hear from people. And even those who buy like third party aftermarket like panels don't report any significant differences in airflow in that case. And the reason why is because there's like large vent holes. on the top and on the sides on the bottom of that case.

And like if you look at the H510 flow, we've removed the side panel venting and the bottom venting on that and all the all the air comes in from the front. So like that case required a certain level of redesign for that type of look or that type of thing to make sense. And part of the reason is not just design but also function, right? Like I'm assuming aerodynamics or whatever, it just function better. it provides better cooling with those vents only being in the front. Whereas with the 710, if the venting is already good to go, right? And just adding mesh in the front doesn't do anything, the question becomes, right?

And this is something that I'm surely known that the design team's thought about. This is me kind of talking, you know, like kind of logically here. So it's not an official word. But like, you know, if if the report from our customers who are buying third party vents are saying that maybe one to five degrees difference, that doesn't, I don't think, that constitutes for just adding mesh, right? And if we're redesigning this whole thing just to put mesh in the front,

like we had to, that sounds like a lot of work for possibly the same type of like performance, right? I don't know. Like, you know, we had to like close all the holes in the front and the side and just stick holes in the front and see what the difference is. But yeah, there you go.

Q for Dan, what is the smiling box in the background? It's a boba. It's a little boba mini fridge. It's a little mini fridge. It looks like a boba. A little boba dude. I don't know if I can find... Maybe if I can find a picture this.

I show this picture over here somewhere. Yeah, here it is. I show us around the stream. And I said it was 1130 and I do have to hop off for some urgent matters. Do you want to continue the podcast without me? Yes, I will stay on for a little bit, answer a couple more questions. And then we will bounce because I know we started a little late. So make sure people get enough show for their week.

Thank you. We do have a lot of stuff. I need to, or is it cool by turnoff, Discord and the OBS stuff? Yep, you're good. Yep. Have a going, Poppy. Later. Bye.

Thank you. And thank you, everyone for tuning in and for your questions. See you next time. Yep. All right. I'm going to answer a couple more questions here for the folks in the chat. You know, if you want to listen to the show live, we do do this every Thursday at 10 a.m. Pacific Center time of the NZXT Twitch.

And we also have it on demand on Apple Podcast, Google Podcast, Spotify, and. SoundCloud. Yeah, it's a cute fridge. I think that's all the tech questions we had. I don't want to spend too much time chatting about myself and my stuff, but you guys have other questions. Tech-wise, let me know and I'll do my best to answer them as best as I can. Obviously, I can't give you all the answers because, you know, reasons and things that I can't, you know, talk about, things that aren't out or whatever or just questions. There's answers that I don't have in general. Let's scroll up here a little bit and see what we got. Let's do some background music, Okay, some background music.

There you go. I know something to keep me, keep my brain working. We're going a little more casual this time. Now it's not to me and Ivan. Let's see, what's he got here. HN's been on sale for a while. Does that mean you're trying to make room for a new ITX case?

I don't know, that's a good question. I'll ask about that, I have no idea. What's my role in ZXT? Social media, we do social media. I mean I haven't on the social media team. Well, an EVG and EVGE 3080 TI fit in the H510 flow, not a 3080 yet, but work on it. I don't know. We have a comparison chart, like a sizing chart on our website, but I don't think it's current for the new TIs or something.

So I would reach out to your customer service team, though, know about that. Does NCC offer price protection if a PC is ordered now versus a bidding for Black Friday? No, we do not. We do not. especially for Black Friday and this is something that I've always was I always thought was funny like on like a black Friday when I was working retail is if you if you know Black Friday's coming every single year right and then you're like I don't want to wait for the sale and you buy earlier and they come for a price match I'm like nah dude there's no way like you know it's

black Friday comes every year on the same time if you can't be patient or if you want to get the deal then too bad so sad um as far as i know customer service will not match either so uh if you want to get black friday deals you have to wait for black friday um it's kind of the whole point of black friday um i don't know what the sales is going to be either so don't don't don't ask me are you hiring for the nsky social media team currently we are not you're not it's just uh just me ivan and sometimes mike mike is uh we will occasionally steal mike every now and then from the customer service team to come help us out. So, yeah, so let me do this one quick.

I'm going to, I'm going to quote, unquote, the heck is this? Okay, I'm going to quote unquote end the show, and then we'll continue on with a couple questions, and then I'll throw on a rate, right? So here we go. Give me a second. We'll do the official podcast stuff for those who are, who are, who are there live or not live, and then we'll continue on. Here we go.

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We'll see you next time. Bye.