NZXT PODCAST - #118 - New Year, New You

Episode Date: January 7, 2022

We're back from our holiday break talking about tech news and answering your questions! We discuss tamales, video games, and CES 2022! Tune in live every Thursday at 10AM PT on twitch.tv/NZXT and se...nd your questions to: podcast@nzxt.com

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Starting point is 00:00:44 and welcome, everyone, to episode 118 of the N-Z-XT podcast. I almost said Clubcast, dude. There's all the habits here and hard. Podcast, the official N-Z-T podcast of the N-60 community. This podcast is recorded live every Thursday at 10-Eamp, but 7-Center time of the official N-60 Twitch. It is available to stream on demand on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcast, Spotify, and SoundCloud. So get your knives out.
Starting point is 00:01:07 I already said that one before. I just copied from last week. I don't know. Welcome. It's a new year. 20-22. We still doing it. doing it big out here we're still uh nzx tn was still doing computer stuff was still doing other things
Starting point is 00:01:19 uh who knows maybe we'll maybe we'll release a uh official ligma computer or something what do you think ivan should we do that sure we was a ligma pc the sugma elite the subma elite the segment happy happy new year my friend happy new year poppy how you down doing all right i'm a little under the weather, not going to lie. Thankfully, it's not the Omerion virus. But I've had like this stupid runny nose like pretty much ever since Christmas, to be honest. And not a sore throat, but like a scratchy throat, but just a little cold. I'm fine. I'll survive. I am. I'm suffering from pretty much not doing a whole lot for two weeks and just like having it so incredibly easy that I had like no good sleep schedule anymore.
Starting point is 00:02:12 Like I cannot fall asleep before like like before three. And I used to go to bed like at 12 or something, which to me was still kind of like late for like a, I guess the guy as old as I am now. I was like, I don't know if you've noticed, but I've been, I've been replying to people on Twitter like at three in the morning.
Starting point is 00:02:30 Have you noticed that? Yeah, I saw. I've been waking up at 3 o'clock for like two weeks now. I don't know why. But yeah, I wake up at 3. Then like I'll open a Twitter. I'll start responding to people. And it's funny because I'll see I'll see that NZT like reply to someone like at 2.30 in the morning.
Starting point is 00:02:47 I'm like, damn, I guess Dennis is still up. You're like perfect timing though. It's like we're like switching shifts or something. Yeah. I shouldn't think. Yeah. It's been that. It's been a lot of video games.
Starting point is 00:03:03 My partner and I, we got into dying light over the holiday weekend. So we've been playing a lot of that. And it's a great game. It's super fun. Zombie parkour. Gotta love it. The worst thing about Dying Light. And if you're a dying like fan, please turn off the stream if you don't want spoilers.
Starting point is 00:03:21 Though the game is like four years old now, right? Is that if you're doing the whole game co-op, right? The last mission is single player. You play it on your own. Which is annoying because. Because you do like the final mission. And I'm like, this isn't anything special that I can have done with like my friend shooting with me, right?
Starting point is 00:03:45 Or my partner shooting with me. It's like trying to force you into like this quick time event, stupid thing. And I'm like, like, who cares? Like just, just that the person who's like running the session, just hit the button. Like I can sit back and watch. I don't care. I think like I'm going to get mad. Oh no.
Starting point is 00:04:02 You hit a button incorrectly. You've been hitting buttons incorrectly for this entire 10 hour game. Right. So we got through that. we did the the the the the dlc which is really cool too a whole new environment right and same thing final mission is co-op but here's the problem right here's the big problem when we went into the fun of mission it's like by the way it's going to be co-op you want to hit you want to hit slap enter and go okay cool so we went and here's a stream network here hold up people saying there's some areas on
Starting point is 00:04:28 the stream let me know what's good guys let me know what's going on um uh was insane so yeah did the final mission, it bugged out for me. And then when I loaded back in, it didn't save any of my progress with my co-op partner. So I had to start that whole DLC from the very beginning. I might forget this. Flip tables, turn the game off. I was like looking at their screen. And they're having problems too because the game's being really buggy with them because
Starting point is 00:04:52 the final event is like the first part of the final mission is like timed and they couldn't do it. They're like, you've been driving the whole time. I haven't been driving. So my car has zero upgrades. I don't have the nitro so I can get the zombies off my car or whatever. It was very, very awesome to see such an experience be ruined in like five minutes. So just completely just like, what's the phrase?
Starting point is 00:05:16 Poop the bed, right? So yeah. Well, that sounds a lot more exciting than my vacation because I played zero video games. Well, actually, I played this one game called Making Tamales with your mom. Making Tamales with your mom. That sounds like a, that sounds like an insult. It was co-op. Actually, it was me, my mom, and my 10-year-old niece, Jackie.
Starting point is 00:05:46 We had like a little assembly line going. So Jackie, she would get like this ice cream scoop, get the masa on the leaf, pass it to me. I would spread the mass on the leaf. Then my mom would get the meat, put it inside, wrap it up. And we did that for a couple, I think three hours. And we made 200 tamales. 200.
Starting point is 00:06:13 And I believe I ate 50 of them, dude. Like, I'm not exaggerating. Like, I ate tamales every day for like a week and a half. And I was eating about five a day. So this is basically, I've been here the entire weekend for those who don't know. This is like a tamales. Yeah. So if I have a day for 10 days, it's 50 tomorrhys, man.
Starting point is 00:06:38 Like, I think I gained 15 pounds as well. Jesus. Yeah. Let me see here. People say my microphone is low. Maybe you just don't have the right ears to listen to this amazing stuff. Let me know what's better. I'm trying to be too loud because I got animals in the house and they go in it sometimes.
Starting point is 00:06:57 I can't remember the last time had Tamales, actually. Like, I don't think it's had in like the past year. Yeah. I mean, my mom hasn't made them. She didn't make them for the holidays. is instead she did a she wanted to do some little difference she did she did like prime rib for uh was it for christmas or for christmas for christmas she did prime rib and like i get to the house and she pulls out this giant ass pot and then pull out is the biggest hunk of meat i've ever seen and he's
Starting point is 00:07:19 trying to lift it and the meat just all right falls off the bone and i'm like i don't think prior ribs supposed to be that tender that looks amazing that sounds delicious yeah no because normally like prime rib is like a little like it's like a little disc or like a little puck right of like me And this was like so tender, it just fell off. So my dad's like, okay, it's shredded beef now. Enjoy. Yeah, it was good. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:42 No, we do the tamales every, every Christmas. It's like a tradition for us. Yeah. I think mom just got a little tired because like it's only really us, right? We don't have like a bunch of people over. It's just some immediate family. So I think it's like, you know, if we're all cool, we're doing some different. And mom's like, I don't want to make like a million.
Starting point is 00:08:00 It's a lot of work, man. I would have suggested. oh yeah, just have my sister and have my partner come in and just, you know, help you make them. So me and my dad and my sister's boyfriend, you just sit back and watch TV or something. How it should be, right, Ivan? That's how it should be. The men doing nothing being used as usual. I know.
Starting point is 00:08:24 Yeah. You do anything else? I went to a Rams football game. Who did they? They played the Seahawks. at that new SoFi Stadium. That stadium is really cool. I think that stadium, I think it was like $2 billion or something like that to make.
Starting point is 00:08:45 It's like super high tech. I've never seen a bigger like television screen in my life. It was pretty cool. Yeah, so I went to that game with my brothers in law. My shout out to Josh and Omi. Right. It was fun. Besides that, I mean, just spent time with my family.
Starting point is 00:09:04 My family came to visit me from Nashville. So it just congregated at the parents' house and ate a bunch. Literally played no video games, man. I barely even turned on my computer, to be honest, in two weeks. I really tried to take a break on like Thanksgiving, where kind of said we were taking a break, but we were still working. For Christmas, I was like, you know what? I'm actually going to take a break this time. Did I hear?
Starting point is 00:09:33 Did I know this? were like hell am i yeah i purposely just wanted to unplug from social and work for at least a week because it's been a long long year uh chat what you guys get for christmas i want to know what you have for christmas someone said they got they got an oculus welcome to the metaverse my friend welcome to to the real world unplug from whatever this is and plug to I was going to say Jeff Bases
Starting point is 00:10:07 what's his name Mark Zuckerberg's secret Metaverse and B if you got crypto If the Metaverse
Starting point is 00:10:13 is like Matrix Reserctions I don't want any part of it Sango God is moving around Sango
Starting point is 00:10:20 K K Mokemakka says they got crypto for Christmas Oh nice Which one Was it a good one
Starting point is 00:10:27 Or was it like A no No because there's like a million like Rann and Mass like coins
Starting point is 00:10:31 Hopefully it was Ethereum so they combined a monkey avatar dude i saw okay so so since we're talking about nfts did you see the meta PCs uh tweet with their video they're like yeah yeah the ricky yes so they're like making fun of t's in it and the nfti people in the comments were mad they're so angry and it's like dude like you buy one monkey photo jpeg and it's like you're like whole i don't know it's like your whole personality now right just having a monkey photo well it's like you're
Starting point is 00:11:04 So funny to me. It's understandable why people would get mad. Like, anytime you make fun of any... Luxury item. Any subculture. I'm going to say subculture, you know, like a... How's there a subculture, though? I call it a subculture because it's like, you know, it's like a...
Starting point is 00:11:24 It's like a part of a bigger culture, which crypto. Like, I see crypto as like this culture, right? And then the subculture is, you know, spending crypto to buy into T's. Kind of like how, you know, maybe like punk rock is like a subculture of rock, right? Like rock is a genre, but then like there's like this little subculture of punkers who like a specific type of music. So here's a question then. Yeah. Is there a shared culture and values?
Starting point is 00:11:54 Are there shared culture and values among people who buy monkey and line picks? because that's the question right because that's what makes a subculture right I think there is to be honest because it's making a bunch of money brother let's go like the people that are spending money at NFTs they're doing so because they believe there's value in doing so right and the people that aren't you know they're like talking bad about it are the ones that believe there is no value in it so me personally I don't I don't own any How dare you do? I do own crypto.
Starting point is 00:12:34 Are you not ready for the future? Doge. What's that? I said, are you not ready for the future? The NFT future where everything's in. I just haven't, I haven't seen any sort of like, NFT where I'm like, oh, I want to spend money to. No, they're all ugly, they're all ugly.
Starting point is 00:12:52 It's a photo of a lion or a monkey or whatever else. Like someone did a, do you remember the YouTuber Erika? is a guy who was here yeah yeah so someone made a some somebody made an nfti of him supposedly remembrance and people are mad about that that i get because it sounds really really gross but hashtag joycon boys yeah exactly i'm like bro that's kind of like messed up like they also did the uh stanley nfti right yeah which was also kind of weird that i think is it's pretty messed up like dude's dead bro like why would you nfti that's so funky people to like market stuff is kind of cringy but um yeah um i so here's the thing right i think that the idea and technology behind
Starting point is 00:13:37 nfts is very important and i think will be important in the future what i don't think it's important though is people selling art online like i don't care about that right like people have been selling art online this is no different like an etcy or or or anything like that the only difference now is that now you can manufacture your own scarcity with it which is like who cares right like at the end the day it's just a picture of you know it's the same thing as polkine cards right They hold no inherent value. It's just what the other person is, like, willing to pay for them, right? Logan Paul just spent $3.2 million on an original Pokemon box.
Starting point is 00:14:07 Did you see there might be fake? Yeah, I did. Yeah. Dude, honestly, like, so, okay. Dude, honestly, real talk. Okay, real talk. Everything is worthless. Okay.
Starting point is 00:14:21 Yeah, but it's up to the person who is. It's up to the larger society. On the end, that's like giving money for the transaction, it's up to them to determine what has value. Like, for example, like this, during last year, I got into collecting baseball cards again, right? Spent, I don't know how much. Real baseball cards? Like real baseball cards, yeah. Whoa.
Starting point is 00:14:44 Yeah, and, you know, there's cards in there that, like, I like, because I like the player, I like the team, whatever. For me, those cards have more value than a player. I don't like from a team that I don't like, et cetera. And if someone were to offer me money for my baseball cards, I would tell them, well, this card is going to cost you a little bit more because I like this team and player. And this car is going to cost you a little bit less because I don't like this team or player.
Starting point is 00:15:17 And that's how I see this NFT thing, man. Like I personally don't have any NFTs. But at the same time, I, I understand why some people might think, like, okay, I have this crypto and I want to use it because I think there's some sort of value in buying a monkey avatar for my Twitter profile. Like, go for it, man. Like, I'm not going to, I'm not going to get mad, basically. But I do think NFT people do get mad when people talk bad about it because the argument does make a lot of sense in my opinion. It's like, how can you say something that you can just.
Starting point is 00:15:57 right-click save is worth anything, right? Because that proof, that's why Sucker. I don't know. I have proof where you don't have access to to see that I own this thing. So you should delete that because it's very offensive that you're stealing my property right now and I don't appreciate it. Yeah, I think, you know, as like I said, I think the overall technology is surrounding NFTs is cool, right? I think it makes sense.
Starting point is 00:16:24 And I think it's something that in the future we're going to need a lot more of. You know, as the world becomes more and more destabilized, you know, because of people like myself, we just want to make everything free and liberal, right? But I think I think the application of selling art and stuff or whatever online to me is a, is a, it's just people with a lot of money throwing it around, right? That's really all that is, right? That doesn't do anything for anybody or for anything. other than the people who are playing in that environment,
Starting point is 00:17:00 which is the NFT trading investment part thingy, right? Yeah, but I still think it's funny that that dude was it was a, it was a monkey dude who like, I guess like fat fingered or something and like he sold his NFT for like way less than it was supposed to be and someone snatched it up. Do you hear about that? Oh, no, hold out. NFT sold for, was it like, it's like $3,500 or something.
Starting point is 00:17:27 think is what it was um yeah uh board ape nfti accidentally sells for 3,000 uh instead of was 30,000 or something no three million I forget it is but yeah he he basically fat you'll yeah uh I think who a person who fat finger did on purpose to gain news traction yeah maybe right but it's still funny the fact that you know they're like that one of those is worth that much right like what do you do with it yeah it's like binding fine art right is the only difference is that the entire world collectively agrees that there is value in fine art right there's a value in a in a Picasso painting right that will no longer be able to be made by anybody and this is the only one that there ever will be right or like I don't know an ancient kintut headdress or something right
Starting point is 00:18:15 well even that stuff I mean even like real art that you hang on a wall a lot of that art never had any value until a long time after it was created. Yeah. You know, like Vincent Van Gogh never made a penny from his art, right? He didn't get famous until he died. Yeah. And then there was like this whole, you know, like story by him chopping off his ear and whatnot. And it just became like a cool piece of art to own, et cetera.
Starting point is 00:18:45 But when he was alive, if you, like, no one cared, you know. Like, same thing with like a Jackson Pollock painting. You know, some people look at it and it just looks like, a bunch of splattered paint. Yeah. And people think I can do that. It's worth nothing. But in reality that, you know, some people are spending millions of dollars for that
Starting point is 00:19:01 stuff. So I don't know. It's all in the eyes of the... Eyes of the beholder, right? Yeah. I mean, the value is whatever you put on it. Yeah. All right.
Starting point is 00:19:15 So, Ivan. Yes, sir. We're doing news today, right? Because we've been gone for a bit. Unless, I don't know, unless it was like anything else we want to talk about. there's like a any specific like things that the chat wants to ask about during our holiday break i think we pretty much kind of went through it all right just uh talking about all the all the stuff um so we do have some news and also the the the other news there so okay style it back quick for
Starting point is 00:19:42 for a quick second um the worry guys we know we know that there's a secret word it's coming you just got to listen just got to pay attention and if you don't catch it then that's it's gone forever but if you want I can give you the code right so your code right now just send me five Ethereum
Starting point is 00:20:03 right and in exchange I'll give you this secret one of a kind word maybe we should do that maybe we should sell the code word as an NFT and then and then you just stuck right you stuck with it it's like this is the
Starting point is 00:20:18 exclusive NZXT podcast, Gleam, code, NFT, and only I have it. Thank you for the 15 entries for a $100
Starting point is 00:20:28 Stephen gift card. Okay, so new stuff. So CES is happening or happened. Is it still going on? Yeah, it's all week.
Starting point is 00:20:36 It's all week. Let's start the last week. I think so. I think it started on Tuesday. I believe it's until Saturday. I've ever been to CES, by the way.
Starting point is 00:20:47 I've been to CES once as an exhibitor on on LG it's actually where I meant my this I I he was there looking at our monitors I was I was there with LG mobile but he like he like walked up and he's a surprisingly short right and he's just like walking through and I'm like oh hey it's Linus he's looking at like the super long you know the LG thing and the he literally like hops up on the counter because he's like that short and he's like standing there and the monitors like this tall so I went up to him I'm like oh what's up Linus huge fans oh hey
Starting point is 00:21:16 thanks a lot and then you know I did a little side hug and a photo and you know so he has nice nice sandals yeah he was wearing sandals he was definitely wearing sandals yeah so yes is a it's an interesting event because it's a trip if you go if you go to CES right I'm not I'm not I'm not even trying to make a joke here it's it's literally washing machines and TVs for the most part like I'm not exaggerating Samsung smart fringes as far as the I can see you know consumer electronics right so like think about it like most people people buy the most popular consumer electronics are like microwaves, refrigerators, you know,
Starting point is 00:21:56 lamps, you know, things like that. There's not much in terms of PC hardware on the show floor. And what's most interesting to me is the like the fact that like all these PC hardware brands including NZXT, like the way that we typically exhibit at CES is by renting a hotel room and inviting people into the hotel room and like having them like, you know, use a computer and whatnot. And it's a little weird. Like I've gone a couple times and it's not my favorite event, to be honest. It's like I said, it's mostly fancy refrigerators and washing machines,
Starting point is 00:22:38 which I don't really care for. But there is a lot of hardware news that comes out during CES week, which is always good. but if you're there it's a little weird like you don't really see like a giant amd booth where you can you know get hands on with rising and whatnot it's it's not like that a emd yeah so to me c as a show where you go to show your really crazy new unique hardware stuff and then get it stolen by chinese right because those things you hear it happens all the time at like c s is like you'll you'll like show something cool and then five days later it
Starting point is 00:23:17 It shows up in like a Chinese store online and then like, you know, China now owns your product basically because they don't, you know, they don't really care about our intellectual property laws here. But, but it's, it's, yeah, so you go to, so that was a joke, guys, obviously. So you go to show, I mean, it does happen, but it's still a joke. So you go to the show cool stuff, right? And for whatever reason, at a certain point, someone decided, yeah, let's just show a bunch of giant TVs and a bunch of frieges. and it used to be where you would get like the hottest, coolest reveals, right? Like, okay, for example, the article we have up here, AMDTs is 5-nometer, rising 7,000, but, all right?
Starting point is 00:23:58 All this have happened during, like, CES. I don't know if this is the right place to be talking about my new CPU, my new GPU it's coming out, right? Even though they did it, right? Like, if I was a CES and I had all these companies, the last thing I want to do is go look at another CPU, right? I want to find the dude who's making like the water bottle that like senses that you're going to like pass out and then it like sprays you in the mouth or something with water and then you're good to go, right? Like that's that's what I want to go
Starting point is 00:24:28 to see us for. But like, you know, like if if like we as NZXT go there and show off like a motherboard at like a whole booth that's like super expensive, people are going to go, cool, that's a motherboard, huh? Yeah. What are the specs? Yeah. I feel like most of the stuff that that is shown at CES is just concept stuff. Yeah. That may or may not happen. Like I remember, I think it was in 2015. I remember seeing, I think it was the Samsung Smart Fridge there with like the screen on it.
Starting point is 00:25:02 And I remember thinking how stupid it was. Like that would never happen. Like it was just like a dumb idea. And then, you know, fast forward now. Like, no, I want one. I really want a screen on my fridge because I want something to do while I'm brewing my coffee in the morning, basically. It's actually pretty handy, I think. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:25:25 Okay, so here's the thing. I don't know anything about this chip. I didn't really read the article. The only reason why I wanted to talk about it is because it's called Raphael. Yeah. And I say this is the Ivan CPU. Although my first name is not spelled with the pH. even though I am pretty hot.
Starting point is 00:25:46 Yeah, so, I mean, you know, the Ryzen 7's coming out. AMD's talking about new new CPUs. See, I have such a hard time. This doesn't be so bad because we're technically a tech show, right? It's such a hard time really caring about announces like this, because I'm not going to buy one, right? Like, I'm just going to see, like, people talking about it
Starting point is 00:26:05 on, like, Linus Tech Tips and, you know, Js 2S and Paul's Hardware and Bitwit and, you know, all the other people who do hard. hardware stuff. And I go, that's a very cool chip. I will probably not buy this chip because I don't care about it. And then that's it, you know, like, I don't know, but. I care even though I'm not going to buy it. I care just because I do think it is important not to have like competition. Oh, no, for sure, for sure. And like this chip in particular, like, it's quote unquote, targeted at Alder Lake, you know, that's so they say, which is great. Like, I think it's,
Starting point is 00:26:41 I wish there was more companies besides Intel and AMD who made processors because I feel like competition is what really drives innovation, you know, and there's really only two chip manufacturers for CPUs and really only two manufacturers for GPUs. And, you know, what would GPUs and CPUs look like and how much would they cost if there were like 100 companies competing with that technology, right? Yeah. So yeah, I'm like you, man. I'm not going to buy it. You know, I'm still gaming on an I-5-4-60. But if I was building an EPC, for sure, I would probably consider it. Like I'm not building a new PC though at the moment.
Starting point is 00:27:28 Yeah. I would say that the coolest thing about this is just that they're showing off like legit like performance increases in like games and stuff, which I think is really, really cool. I mean, for whatever reason, I guess you're still. benchmarking Shadow of the Chumrater. Can someone in the chat, who knows way more than I do, explaining me why we're still best test benching games like Shadow the Tourerator.
Starting point is 00:27:49 Isn't that game like 50 years old or something? So that actually is something that bothers me a lot about... I guess we tested this in Super Mario 64. It's like, all right. That's what bothers me about like all these new CPs and GPs that come out every year is that the technology keeps getting, you know, better. Yeah. Faster, bigger, more expensive, et cetera.
Starting point is 00:28:15 And the games, which are like the primary applications that we're, you know, that's driving, I guess, the innovation behind these things. Like that stuff's not advancing, man. Like, you know, I'm still playing Red Dead Red Dead Redemption 2. Yeah. Because, like, why? Because there's no GTA 6 basically. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:35 Like, they're just, I just wish video games were keeping up at the same pace as, the hard work because I feel like that hasn't been happening in recent years. I mean like for example like CSGO right I know the reason why it's on this chart is because there's still a ton of people playing it but I think there's a ton of people playing it because there's nothing else to replace it just they just keep updating that same old game which yeah 22 is going to be 12 years or 10 years old you know I came out in 2012 so that that bothers me more than the CPU itself is the fact that like the game
Starting point is 00:29:10 like why isn't someone just making new games take advantage of this technology? Because I don't think they are. Like, check this out, right? It says here, the Ryzen 7500 X3D is the first AMD chip that will come to consumer market with its 3D V cash technology. Though AMD has already uses its tech on its Milan X processors for the data center, as a quick refresher, 3D V cache, and it just goes on and on them, and they're thinking, awesome. What does it do?
Starting point is 00:29:40 And I feel like maybe I shouldn't be looking at Tom's hardware, right? I feel like they're like not not the site for someone like me, right? But it's basically just L3 cache stuff, more cash, more cash, more games, essentially, right? It's super super, super basic explanation of it. I'm not I'm not Bill Gates, but do those specs mean that you can play video games on the CPU? Serious question. I don't think so. Okay.
Starting point is 00:30:09 I know AMD did announce a new APU as well. Is this it? This isn't it, right? I don't think it's this one. No, no, right. But I'm totally on board with APU gaming. Like, I'm so sick and tired of this graphics cards crisis, man. Like, it's been going on for too long.
Starting point is 00:30:28 I'm just, I'm all for like APU gaming and games taking advantage of that architecture, because It's pretty ridiculous how much graphics cards are costing nowadays and how hard they are to get too. So we need alternatives. Yes, I agree. Sorry, just running some people here in the chat. Let's see here. Yeah, they're, they're touting is supposed to be like way, way better than like the I9-1-900K, which has got these names. These name and conventions are getting really crazy, dude.
Starting point is 00:31:07 I know, I just hear it out. I look at numbers and I just ignore them. Yeah, I don't even bother. Because whatever, man, yeah. No pricing on it, though, unfortunately. But, you know, I guess, you know, I guess we'll see what's up with it. All right. Next article.
Starting point is 00:31:22 This one I actually find way more interesting. And I think I don't, oh, we'll appreciate this. Apple will spend 2022, sorry, Google will spend 2020 trying to match Apple, Apple's ecosystem of integrations. And I don't think it's going to work. I think it's going to work. And I'll tell you why. because literally everything that integrates in the Apple they make, right? They don't allow anything outside to kind of like enter into a little wall to garden, right?
Starting point is 00:31:49 And I feel like I feel like Google will have to kind of take that same similar route if they want not just the integrations, but also the like convenience in like the use case, right? Like everything that you buy with an Apple has a purpose to be used or some kind of stuff, right, that like is useful for the other product, right? They all kind of work together very synergistically. And I don't think Google will be able to accomplish that. I have very little faith they can do that. Well, Dennis, I disagree.
Starting point is 00:32:20 Do you? Tell me why, Pappy? Because I think integrating into an Apple ecosystem is not as hard as it once was. And the reason is because Apple is not using proprietary technology nowadays. to make this stuff. Whereas 10 years ago, that was not the case. You know, 10 years ago, if you bought a Apple laptop called a PowerBook back then,
Starting point is 00:32:50 it was called a PowerBook because it had a PowerPC CPU that Apple made, and you could only get that CPU if you bought an Apple computer. Now, any Apple computer you buy, guess what CPU is in there? Intel, right? Guess what SSD is in there? Samsung.
Starting point is 00:33:11 Same thing with the phones. Like the iPhone, the same company that makes the iPhone, glass, for example, is probably making the same glass that's going on a pixel or whatever. I don't know, that's just an example. So I don't think it's as hard as it once was. Also, I feel like now more than ever, everything is basically in the cloud, right?
Starting point is 00:33:36 Like, I have a Google pixel phone, right? Okay. And I log me with my Gmail account, which... Okay. Like, everything's connected. Like, I have... Everything's tied in my email. So my photos, my music, my maps, my email, everything is just tied to, like, this one account, and it works seamlessly.
Starting point is 00:34:03 So, yeah, I... Like, I don't own any... Well, I guess I own an iPad for my daughter, but I, even though I don't own like a lot of Apple products, like, I think it's cool that Google's trying to make him more integrated. And I think this is something that Microsoft actually recently recently did very well. Like there was a time where Microsoft, you know, like their apps, I don't want to call them trash, but they weren't very good. You know, like they were not very, like, user-friendly. They didn't work very well, et cetera. But I think with Windows 10, they really focused on making their software work not just the same, like on an Apple device versus a, like, Windows device.
Starting point is 00:34:51 Yeah. But also make it work better together with everything else that's going on. So I still use Google on my PC for, like, everything just because, like, at work, we use Google Workspace, so it's just easy. But like the mail app, the calendar app, like the everything in Windows now, like works great. And it also integrates seamlessly with Android. Right. And it's, yeah, I think Microsoft is a good example of showing that this is actually possible. It's not that complicated in nowadays.
Starting point is 00:35:25 So I want to agree with you, but I cannot. Because the thing is that what Google is really good at has come up with really cool ideas and executing on them, right? But what they don't do well at is following up on stuff, right? And there's been a significant amount of products and a lot of history behind Google starting up what's what would have been a cool idea
Starting point is 00:35:47 and then they just never touch it again or they never iterate on it and just leave it alone, right? Well, that's a whole different thing. So that actually drives me crazy up the wall with Google. They'll abandon projects all the time. Yeah. So that's why I think this like integrations
Starting point is 00:36:05 it won't work because, you know, again, yeah, they all make the same hardware and they use all the same stuff, but like the main part of like integrations is like marrying the hardware and the software together and making the whole suite of products, whether it's an iPad or an iPhone or an Apple watch. I was it I watch Apple Watch and then like a MacBook all work well together, right? Like if I get a notification on my Apple Watchers, I don't have one right? But if I did, right, I can see it on my iPad, on my iPhone, I can take calls from my. iPad or my iPhone even if my iPhone or my even if my iPad doesn't have like cellular access right all those integrations that to work on all that different hardware
Starting point is 00:36:46 right and to make it as seamless as possible I don't think Google will be able to reliably do in my I disagree a million percent because I'm actually doing that right now like on my phone on my phone I have Trello, Slack, Discord, WhatsApp, messages, Spotify, Steam, Gmail. Here's the thing. Those are part of the ecosystem. Hold on. Okay.
Starting point is 00:37:16 I have... But first you'll have to unlock. I don't know what happened there. So I have all these like apps on my phone, right? And I'm looking at my computer screen right now. And I have the same apps on my computer screen. I have What's App, for example, right now on my computer. And if I were to text my wife,
Starting point is 00:37:35 on WhatsApp through my phone, she replied, it's going to seamlessly show up on my computer. And that has nothing to do with the hardware. It's literally because everything is in the cloud now. Like there's no, it's not that hard to make stuff work seamlessly across devices, in my opinion, just for that simple fact, that everything is online. And it's not dependent on hardware. Like I said earlier, there used to be a time where like an Apple computer,
Starting point is 00:38:05 had different internals than a regular Windows PC. Okay. So that's not true anymore. So I have to cut you off because this is nothing to do with hardware. This is where you're right on this, right? This is all software, right? But things like WhatsApp and Spotify, those don't work into any ecosystem. They're just on their own application, right?
Starting point is 00:38:25 When I say ecosystem, I mean, like you have like your Apple ID, right? And that Apple ID syncs up with multiple devices and serves different purposes for those multiple devices, right? That's what I don't think Google has right now. And I don't think they're going to have that in touch. They totally, they had that before Apple and even better because. Just Gmail for like texting and stuff? Like, okay, that's that's one, right? But like what?
Starting point is 00:38:47 Every, every app you can think of, including NtXT cam, the world's best free PC monitoring software. It allows you to log in via Google, right? Everything. Right. I can't think of any product or service that doesn't have like a Google sign-on. Right. That's more rampant than the Apple sign on. Oh, yeah, no, for sure.
Starting point is 00:39:12 But that's not an ecosystem. That's just you logging in, right? Same way, like, for example, I wouldn't say that me being able to log into whatever random mobile game through Facebook is an ecosystem, right? The ecosystem has to do with multiple products, right? Multiple devices, right? in the same environment doing stuff together, right? I, again, I don't know if they can do that, right?
Starting point is 00:39:40 Just because you can log in through Google. But just goes back to the whole clock thing, man, because like even Microsoft, right? Okay. Like Microsoft Word, Microsoft Excel, Microsoft PowerPoint, etc. They're not, you can use them both two ways. You can use them as like software that's on. your PC that doesn't require you to like go online or you can type in your email address whether it's a Gmail or Apple or whatever account and it's going to sync across any
Starting point is 00:40:15 device so I can open up a Microsoft Word doc on my PC. Okay. Log in with my Gmail address, right? That's my that's my Microsoft account. Then I go on my iPhone or my iPad or my MacBook or whatever. log in with that same email address and what do you know I have the same Microsoft Word Doc on my iPad now it's not that complicated I don't think it's super super hard to get this stuff to sync across across because like I said everything on the cloud man it's that's how
Starting point is 00:40:51 they're going to sync everything together it's through the cloud it's not you know I don't think Google's going to reverse engineer a MacBook to figure out how to get it to get their software to work on there. I don't think it's like that. I don't know. I'll have to see. The experience I have with Google not following up on stuff, to me is what I think will make this ecosystem not ultimately last, right?
Starting point is 00:41:19 It might work for a minute, but I feel like, you know, again, they just, you know, they have so many cool products and services, and sometimes they talk to each other very, very well, and sometimes they don't. Yeah, so I don't know. Do you use Google Maps or apps? Apple Maps on your iPhone. Actually, I actually started using Apple Maps.
Starting point is 00:41:35 Really? Yeah. So the reason why I like using Apple Maps now is not even for the navigation, which works fine out, right? Like they've actually done something I think is very, very smart, right? After the initial Apple Maps fiasco, they never talked about it, right? They'll talk about features that they're adding in Apple Maps, but they don't ever talk about the reliability.
Starting point is 00:41:56 I think it's smart because I think the minute they say something, people are going to, are going to like come for them and like say stuff, right? like, oh, this is wrong, that's wrong, right? Every GPS is wrong. I've never had a perfect GPS, right? Because maybe Waze, but Waze is like, you know, go down the sketchy side street, make a left at the chicken. Dude, Ways, I'm going to, so Ways, for anyone listening to Huses Waze,
Starting point is 00:42:15 I'm going to tell you what I do or what I used to do with Ways, because it's at least legit out of any sort of traffic app. And so I live on a, on a, I live at the very entrance of a canyon road, right? Yeah. And people love cutting traffic through this street I live on. And when I first moved into the street, like seven years ago, my two neighbors told me, like, hey, by the way, you know, if traffic ever gets out of control, just go on ways and report that the street is closed. And people will stop driving through here. And I was like, hey, that's pretty smart.
Starting point is 00:42:52 So, yeah, I was doing that forever, man. Like, anytime, like, people were, like, just clogging the street, I'd be like, me and my neighbors would go on ways and, like, hey, this road is closed. And next thing you know, no one's cutting through there, right? It's the least reliable sort of thing you can possibly think of. Don't trust ways. It just ways. I mean, so, yeah, that's funny. Yeah, I use Apple Maps.
Starting point is 00:43:16 It works fine. I'll see it because it's just easier to use on my, on my, whatever it's called the Apple Car Connect, whatever it is. You plug your phone in and you see the stupid screen on the thing. So yeah, anyway, good look, Google. I want them to do it. I want them to do it, right? Unfortunately, don't ever have IMessage,
Starting point is 00:43:42 and my entire family is on iPhone, so I'm just stuck on my iPhone forever. I think it's, you know what, the thing that I find most annoying about Apple is IMessage. Really? I love my message. Because everyone that I'm like in a group chat with, or you're not even in a group chat, Anyone that has an iPhone that I'm texting, I can't stand it when they, when they do like, Dennis loved the message or like this message or whatever.
Starting point is 00:44:08 It's just like, I don't care, man. Like just ignore me or don't reply, but don't like my text. Dude, I remember. It drives me crazy. I remember I was seeing this one girl a while back. And when I would like message or something, she would like reply like that. She would have like, you know, like the message or whatever, like, you know, laughed. And then like, you know, like maybe like five or like 10 minutes later, she would actually respond.
Starting point is 00:44:31 But for a minute, I'm like, damn, like, did she just not like me? Like she doesn't want to talk to me. Like what a, you know, like that I do where she's not even like typing a word. She's double tapping. I've never seen someone do that before. She was super in on that feature. She loved it. It's the most annoying thing about people that use iPhones.
Starting point is 00:44:45 Huh? It's literally the most annoying thing about people that use iPhones. The most annoying thing about using an iPhone is seeing the ugly, ugly ass green text message because you're, because you have to be. texting someone who's broke and can't afford an iPhone. I just like, come on, like, listen, like, can you really, like, do you really just want to put your poverty on display there for everyone to see with, like, green text bubbles?
Starting point is 00:45:07 Missing with that, dude, I'm down. I could afford an iPhone. I just don't care about phones because I have a computer. Yeah. Well, that's actually why, like, I have my iPhone because, like, it's such a simple device, right? That, like, I don't want to have to think about anything when to use my phone, right? The Fisher price of phones.
Starting point is 00:45:26 Yeah, pretty much. Yeah, it's like dummy proof. You really can't mess it up, you know. Talk to my dad. He's breaking his phone every like two weeks. That sounds like a personal problem with your dad. I've actually only broken two phones in my lifetime. And the first one was when I made the first switch over to iPhone.
Starting point is 00:45:46 But it wasn't because it was an iPhone. It was literally because I had not bought a case for it. I just got it. I was walking out of like work. It's not a nice to work at Staples. You know, the easy. tech gang what's up what's up um fixing hard drives all day and uh i like stumbled on something and my phone flew out of my hand just like flies right on my hand and lands on the concrete right in
Starting point is 00:46:09 the corner cracks the whole screen so lucky like i just got insurance on it so i just replaced it the other time was the last one i had i've dropped a sucker dude so many times all over the place name it it's falling there right the point where it broke was in the corner when i'm in the restroom and I'm using my phone as one does right browsing the internet right on the toilet and it falls on like the bath mat but right in the corner but like there's no fluff you know how like bath mats aren't like don't have like a million thread count right so there's like a little gaps in like the the like threading whatever but like the actual bottom mat so falls through that falls through everything that could possibly be soft it hits right in the corner on the bath mat and that and that's what killed it
Starting point is 00:46:52 nothing else not dropping outside the car now you know dropping on concrete or anything like that. It was literally the restaurant. You should do what I do. Which is? As soon as I walk in the house, I put my phone right next to my car keys in this little bucket. I don't even, I don't, basically, I want to carry my phone around with me when I'm at home. And then I do.
Starting point is 00:47:16 If I want to use it, I just go to that little bucket. And I'm like, let me see what's going on over here. I want to charge it. I just plug it in there. I just don't want to, don't want to. Don't carry it with me when I'm at home. I do. I do because I don't want to miss a single message from Poppy, you know.
Starting point is 00:47:33 And also, I've got my animas on here. So, you know, you got to have it. You got to have it. I walk in and put my phone down. I walk in my house and put my phone down. And then I walk around my house with my laptop like this, message you and then. I don't need no phones. I got a laptop right here, baby.
Starting point is 00:47:50 Yeah. Yeah. All right. So next. Next one. So this is an article. It's a Reddit thread. And the reason why is because I had the hardest freaking time finding one place where all the news was for Nvidia stuff through CES. Because I went to like the verge. I went to Kataku. I went to like a bunch of, bunch of websites, right? And literally the most annoying part is that they made an article for every single stupid announcement that happened at CES for Nvidia, but not like an actual, this is what happened the entire weekend. Right. So I don't know. Maybe they do more stuff. In video stuff, right? A couple things. New GPUs.
Starting point is 00:48:29 So, you know, more stuff for you guys to fight for over the internet and tooth and nail and beat each other over the head for or through with whatever. The 30, the RTX 3050 and also the RTX 3080 TI laptop, 3070 TI laptop and a 3090 TI or Thai, if you're the 3090 TI laptop. if you're the guy who was in the thing. I think you've missed the best one. What's the best one? They skip it. The $249 RTX 3050. I said $30.50 in the beginning.
Starting point is 00:49:07 Oh, you did? Yeah. I might have like stumbled and mumbled through it. But yeah. That's awesome. A $250 GPU. We need more of those. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:17 I think I think what people forget or are forgetting throughout this whole like pandemic of craziness and part scarcity craziness. is that death rate shut up. It's not too expensive. Just not be broke. I know him, so don't worry. 250 is not a lot for a video card. The MSRP for all these parts,
Starting point is 00:49:41 compared to where we were before when they were crazy, crazy expensive is great. Right? It's good MSRP. It's very competitive, right? But, yeah, I mean, that's pretty much it. There's no, there's no but for that. That's just really all it is. It's a good pricing. Whether you'll be able to get one at that price. I mean, you know,
Starting point is 00:50:05 that remains to be seen, you know, good luck joining the New Eagle lottery or something. But that 3090 TI is to me is ridiculous. From like who the heck needs that perspective, but I know why they do the TIs, right? Like there's the whole bidding and all that stuff, right? And some, some chips, you know, the, you get the whole Silicon Lotteries part that that, does a thing. But I think just in general, right? Like, you hear any conversation about 3090s, the first question of all the sweaty dudes,
Starting point is 00:50:36 like in the comments there were, like, what are you using it for? What are you using it for? Are you playing League of Legends? You don't need it. You don't need it. If you're not editing 20 videos at the same time, you don't need it, right?
Starting point is 00:50:50 Yeah, I don't know who needs this thing. It's pretty crazy. I'm assuming there's someone. Someone tells me, so somebody's tell me in the chat, 3090 TI, who's it for? People who are mining Ethereum, probably. I mean, will. Mine harder. Those are probably like the people are going to end up getting their hands on these things,
Starting point is 00:51:09 which is like, that's the annoying thing, man. And I actually linked another story. I don't know you want to pull this up, but there was this thread on Reddit called our cryptocurrencies to blame for high GPU prices in our hardware. And yeah, a thousand percent, man. It's like the demand for GPUs from these miners, it's not only what drove the price up of GPUs, but it's also what's making it pretty impossible
Starting point is 00:51:42 to get your hands on one and why people go to Best Buy and line up at 2 in the morning when the GPUs drops for that reason. And it's really annoying because it's really annoying because it shouldn't have to be that way, you know, like people that, and I might say people, I mean gamers, like people, gamers that want like a gaming, a piece of gaming hardware to play video games can't even get that, you know, and it sucks. And it also sucks for NZXT as a company because it's hard for us to get as well.
Starting point is 00:52:18 And we have to charge more as well because these things are. like expensive and they're hard to get. So it's just an annoying thing. I'm not anti-crypto, but I am I am anti-crypto being the cause of the GPU prices going up and the GPUs being so hard to get. Right. So first off, for those asking the chat, we did reveal the secret word. It is A-E-M-D, A-Y-Y-M-D.
Starting point is 00:52:54 Check it out in the stream. I have with there as well. So here's the thing, right? Somebody, some people have found a alternative way to use these video cards, right, for something other than video games or encoding videos or whatever the actual intended purposes, right, which is to do graphic-y stuff, right? technically right technically i mean that's kind of what these cards are designed to do right is do a lot of calculations very quickly and that's what people are using it for i i can't blame
Starting point is 00:53:28 crypto miners i can't blame the distributors i can't blame the manufacturers i can't blame the manufacturers for selling these like way above MSRP because it's just the way that you know i'm get ready guys right get ready he's coming right that's the way the capitalism works that's the way that we set this whole system up where you know you can charge whatever the heck you want want, you know, in a fairly free market economy. It's just the way it works. I can't hate on that, right? I mean, I would do the same thing, too, right?
Starting point is 00:53:55 So I'm saying the problem is they ain't selling it to the open market. They don't need to if they don't want to, right? It's their own product. They can do whatever the heck they want with it, technically. I'm not sure if there's any, like, any, like, trade, you know, federal trade issues that, like, go along with that. But, I mean, you know, what can you do, right? Like, I know there's like, there was like a different, there's the, there was like another thing that were similar to this.
Starting point is 00:54:21 It wasn't GPUs, but it was like people found a alternative reason to use another product. And then you started buying it all up. I forget what it was. Maybe it was like to make slime, right? Well, like slime was a thing, right? Everyone started buying like borax and stuff or whatever so they can make their, they're cool like slimes. Right. and now the slime market is like nuts, right?
Starting point is 00:54:46 But are the blame for high prices, 100%. Straight up. Like 100% straight up. That's the only reason is because there's just such a crazy demand. There's a lot of money to even made. And that's really pretty much yet. It's also for A&D CPUs for cars, right? I think what you said about, you know,
Starting point is 00:55:02 that's how capitalism works. Yeah. I think it's true, but at the same time, I don't think that argument holds. up in this case because like the not every crypto miner but some crypto miners are taking advantage of the situation like it's not fair like how is it possible that like you know there's some some people that have like without exaggerating you know thousands of graphics cards in their basement or like in some warehouse mining you know like they didn't get that they didn't get that many
Starting point is 00:55:41 graphics cards by going to Best Buy. Oh, no, for sure. For sure. 100% they're going through these, these distributors and these distributors are selling them to them directly. Or they're using shady, shady practices. Yeah, that too, right? Like bots or something.
Starting point is 00:55:58 And things like that that are like just snagging them up. And that's, so that's why I don't think this whole, like, that's how capitalism works argument holds up because that's not what's going on right now. Technically, that is capitalism, isn't it? just to make them as most money as possible using any means necessary? I guess, but I mean, it's like, what if Apple all of a sudden, you know,
Starting point is 00:56:21 started selling iPhones to a specific group of people that were paying double what they cost because they were using it for something? And all of a sudden you can't get your iPhone, right? Like, is that fair? I don't think so. Even though, yes, it is capitalism. A company can do whatever the heck they want.
Starting point is 00:56:40 But it doesn't mean it's fair, right? It's definitely not fair, but it's, but under this like, under this economic structure, I had such hard time saying that. It's not supposed to be fair, right? It's not supposed to be fair at all. It's supposed to be who can get the unfair advantage, right? I mean, think about like how, like, you know, how the old titans of industry, you know, who are running steel and all this stuff, you know, and like Ford, right?
Starting point is 00:57:08 These guys did not do it in like ethical manners. whatsoever. But anyway, that's a whole different conversation, right? Free market, yeah, yeah. Write down this tweet for later. Graphics cards are a privilege, not a right. Technically, technically, that's kind of true. Technically, it's true, right? Technically, it is true, but it sucks as someone who plays video games, you know?
Starting point is 00:57:32 Like, it just sucks. I mean, it's, no, it's super sucks, dude. It sucks a lot. I think that's why we don't like what's going on. but you know what are gonna do I'm sure you talk to some Ethereum miner who's spending millions of dollars on NFTs they're gonna have a different point of view right oh dude I have very little very little sympathy for those people either and and that's the thing right like like if like someone cracks the code on this like
Starting point is 00:58:01 nfti stuff right and this like if they're of stuff and this mining stuff and like video cards like no longer like viable I hope they're stuck with all those cards Like I, as a, you know, it's just like a person who's petty as hell, right? I hope you're stuck with those cards and you can't do shit with them. And they just sit there and you just wasted all your money, right? That's what I hope because that would be hilarious and that's what you get, right? Because that's kind of how it works, right? You spend all this money, right?
Starting point is 00:58:25 It's a giant risk, right? And you hope that that risk will, you know, will give you some reward back, right? We'll give you some money back in your investment, right? It's basically what this is. They're basically making an investment. It's just with the physical good, you know, like a commodity or something. something. Um, wasn't everything where people purchase those online virtual PCs that GPUs and mine on those. That sounds ridiculous. It sounds like, it sounds like a lot of extra steps. But
Starting point is 00:58:48 anyway, let's hope we all can get 3050s and 3090 ties, right? Um, I love me some, some, some 3090 ties. And so, you know, let's let's, let's play some video games. Um, yeah, so that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, you know, and they just talked about, you know, it's a 1440P e-sports monitor category, which is, I guess, 27-inch 1440P displays with 360 hertz, which I wasn't aware through 30-60 hertz of the thing. I thought we stopped at 240 and we were good with that. But yeah, you pronounce it like that, Thai and not TI, I didn't know. So according to Nvidia, they said, as long as you spell it right is all that matters.
Starting point is 00:59:35 That's what they said. It's actually pretty funny coming from the video because they're not known to have funny PR. So whoever wrote that, you know, you deserve a raisin. Congratulations. Very proud of you. It was Andy. Hold on a scroll up a little bit. I see that alienware spec.
Starting point is 00:59:53 Oh, the QDO. It's a 30, like 3440 by 1440 at 175 hertz. Native. I don't know. I feel like 34. inches is a huge screen way too big for playing a video game in my opinion i think it's nice if you're sitting like really far back right because like i don't want to be super close like uh i'm not a kind of strike player right i'm not going to be like five feet away from my monitor and you're going to do in this
Starting point is 01:00:19 trying to get all those you know sick flicks um ultra right it's normal like a white 27 uh people talking in your chat um but then you know a dLSS is a thing right and they're putting it in more games you know tarcob and stuff like that good luck with that um More settings to turn off. Yeah, exactly. It's actually funny. I don't, so I kind of have a basic idea of what DLSS does, but whenever I see it in a game, I just put it to balance and I leave it alone.
Starting point is 01:00:50 And I'm assuming it just smooths everything out. I don't know what it does. Maybe we'll look it up. I mean, I know what it does. I just like can't explain to someone very well, right? I think there's, there's three types of gamers or PC gamers. Yeah. Like, type one is the type that wants to max everything out because they're super into all this new technology and they want like the most FPS with the best graphics with, you know, everything, right?
Starting point is 01:01:20 And then there's type two who doesn't know what any of that stuff is and therefore does not care and just plays everything at default settings. and then there's type 3 and I'm kind of like borderline type 2 type 3 like type 3 is the one that like just can't afford anything or doesn't have it and they're just like going to put everything lowest and turn everything off
Starting point is 01:01:45 because yeah you know they don't need it to play the game like you don't need DLSS and you know maximum FPS to play Minecraft you can play the game and enjoy it without any of that stuff so you're playing on tablet if you want yeah
Starting point is 01:02:01 I don't know what kind I am, but what I'll do is a little bit game and go to the settings, make sure it's up the max, right? Whatever it can run at max or whatever they recommend. You should just like a medium, like a like high to epic or ultra, whatever they call they called in whatever game. And then I'll turn things off like motion blur and things off like are like a like ray tracing because it's like the most fricking like power hungry frame hungry thing in the world and it's like I just never use it um and I think I'll put on whatever in video smooth latency crap is you know and then I'll turn on the DLSS to like the medium and I feel like I should know what these things do
Starting point is 01:02:49 but I was like smooth I like no latency thank you for the marketing name I'm going to click yes oh uh performance look, give me the balance. Whatever the middle is, so it doesn't break anything. I use that, thanks, Nvidia. And then I just go about my day, right? Yeah. Blur, diff the field, I'll turn off. Unless it's like a single player game and I just want the like experience,
Starting point is 01:03:14 then you know, then I'll just leave it on. But like if I'm playing a multiplayer, like I can't see half the people my screen because everything's like super blurry, I'm like, I'm like, I'm going to turn that crap off. I don't need that. There's no motion blur in real life. When I was like a. a hardcore counterstrike player. Like, looking back, it's kind of funny because, like, people that are hardcore into counterstrike,
Starting point is 01:03:35 yeah, they just turn everything off and they're playing like on a 40-3 resolution that's stretched. Yeah, it's so ugly. Like, like, on a 24-inch monitor. Like, it's totally the opposite of what, I guess, a technology should be used for, which is just funny. All right. You're ready for a hot take? You're ready for hot take? Like, if you have to turn down all your settings to be competitive, that you're not that good,
Starting point is 01:04:01 if you are really good, you can play with everything maxed out, say for like the annoying stuff like blur and things like that, right? If you turn everything down, right, and you're like, if I have a 3090 tie, right? 3090 TI tie. Uh, tie. 3090 TI, the rapper from Houston, right? I think it's from Houston. Texas for sure. Right.
Starting point is 01:04:26 And I'm turning my games all the way down to like low, right? Like Valerant or something or whatever games do at Minecraft, Fortnite. Then you're not that good. Turn everything up. See all the clouds. See all the bushes. Right. See all the all the chromatic aberration and all the decals turned up and the blood spatter
Starting point is 01:04:47 turned all the way up and the physics turned all the way up. So it like, you know, goes all walking. for a second when you kill somebody because the physics doesn't work right in the game. Like, if you can't win with that, I don't want to know you. I don't want to watch your stream. I don't want to see you compete. I want to see, I want to see like a full, like, e-sports gamer, everything maxed out, like, bloom, like in his face. He can't see anything, but he's still hitting sick headshots and stuff.
Starting point is 01:05:15 That's what I want to see. Most of you see his players have trash PCs. That is not true. That should have good PCs, but just turn everything down. Yeah. I remember when he used to competitively play CS Source, right? Before the CS Go days and someone gave me this like config file, like yo bro, turn this on and it basically makes everything to like polygons.
Starting point is 01:05:34 It's like you're playing 1.6. It's so easy to see it in my bro. Like if I'm going to play 1.6, I'm just going to play 1.6. Like I'm just going to go. It's not even the same game anymore. I feel like just see as just with CS. I'm just talking about CS right now. not about any other game.
Starting point is 01:05:54 But CS in particular, I think the biggest reason for turning down those settings is because it does make it easier. And especially if you're playing like on a stretch resolution, for example, because then, you know, people's heads become bigger, you know, and then you get like, you know, a custom crosshair your config file and whatnot. It doesn't make it easier.
Starting point is 01:06:21 Does it make you better that? I don't know because you still have to you know, play the game and get good at it. So I don't know. I don't know if your hot take is true or not, but I do think it does make it easier for sure. Oh, no, it definitely does. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:43 I mean, that's what they do it, right? Because it makes things easier to see. Like I'll play a lot of Hunt Showdown, and when people get in a night map, They'll do things like jack up their gamma so they can see a lot easier at night. And I'm like, that's cool. You know, like, if that's what you need to compete, if that's just need to like play the game, like, I'm not going to sacrifice the fidelity of my game just so I can like not die as much.
Starting point is 01:07:07 Like to me, part of the fun of playing the game is like seeing how good the graphics look, right? It's like being immersed in that world. And if everything looks like a Roblox, right, on like a 3090 or, you know, my 2070 super, then I'm just going to play roadblocks, right? Like, I don't know. Like, like I, you know, no matter, graphics do matter. I don't care when it says graphics, 100% matter. Because an ugly game is ugly, right? A graphically beautiful game is beautiful and a stylized game is always going to look good, right? And I think that there's a sweet spot where, you know, you want it to look good. You know, you still want to, you know, like not mess with you, right? So that's all turn things off like shadows
Starting point is 01:07:46 because they get annoying and, you know, they like, you miss a lot of frames and I'll turn things. off like, you know, you know, maybe like the anti-aliasing down from like eight to like four or whatever, right, just so like, you know, I get some extra frames and so it's smooth. But, you know, I definitely try to find the balance between graphical fidelity and frame rate. And I think that's that's where I like to live, right? Granted, I'm not like a super competitive player and I know if you're competitive, you want every single edge you can get, right? But how, how impressive would it be if you can just do it with the graphics up, right? See, you just hit the nail in the head, man. Depends on the game, right? If you're playing a super.
Starting point is 01:08:20 competitive game like CSGO because it's CSGO is a competitive game yeah for sure people are tryhards in that game right 100% obviously if you're if you're trying to be a try hard as well you want to compete with these other tryhards you're gonna try hard and like do whatever it take to squeeze out whatever advantage you can possibly get from the game and that means turning down all your settings and playing on a stretch resolution and playing with your keyboard sideways on the desk You're basically playing a keytard. You're like doing this.
Starting point is 01:08:52 A mouse bungee and all that stuff. Then you're going to do it, right? Hell of glass mouse feet. Yeah, dude. But if you're playing Stardew Valley. The Ninja Puma GamerSox. Or even like Doom or Superman baseball, my favorite game in the whole world. Games like that, like it doesn't matter if you turn everything up or down.
Starting point is 01:09:16 Like the game's not going to change much. Yeah, yeah. You know, so I think it just depends on the game. Like if, and also I guess how competitive you are, right? Like if you really want to win and if tweaking the settings down and like playing, like, and I guess what looks kind of crappy is going to help you. And I get it. Join a crosshair on your monitor.
Starting point is 01:09:37 Do you remember that? Dude. I actually, I've done that. There are monitors that had that feature built in where you can like add in like a, like a suffer one. I used to have a little piece of tape on. the middle of my monitor when I played CSGO. I did it too. I did it too.
Starting point is 01:09:53 Back in the day. Yeah. All right. So we have the last article here. If you're going to start asking any questions, Ivan will be taking them and putting them into our Trello. We're going to talk about a little bit of culture stuff, which I think is actually, I think this is pretty interesting.
Starting point is 01:10:10 Personally, I find this way more interesting than hardware stuff. There we go. Dead by Daylight, devs removed. leather face black face mask so Ivan do you know the background of this stuff uh don't okay so in the game dead by daylight right um which you know is a horror survival competitive game which is really sweaty and makes me mad all the time whenever i play it has a character has a character uh leather face from the texas chainsaw massacre right and in the game you can uh get these cosmetics that allows you to put on uh the faces of the original four
Starting point is 01:10:46 survivors in the game, one of them being a black person, right? And what started happening is that people started using this black person's face as basically black face to harass other players in game, right? And there's a bunch of sides of the debate, right? Part of it is, well, you know, he's a murderer and that, you know, they shouldn't matter what he does because he kills everybody equally. And then people like, yeah, that's cool. But people are still using this tool in game to be basically assholes to other, right? To being assholes to other people. So, you know, just reporting on the news, right? Just what happened newswise, right?
Starting point is 01:11:22 Dead by Daylight devs decided, yeah, you know what? We're not cool with that. We don't want people to feel like they're being harassing game. So we're going to remove the mask from the game. So now you can't put on a black person's face on a serial killer and harass other people in game. So that's the news. I think it's interesting. I think personally, it's a good move, right?
Starting point is 01:11:44 I think that, you know, that removing any tools for people to be jerks make sense to me, right? It's like how you can block people, right? On like, on like other platforms and stuff, right? They're trying to award this in the best way possible. I think it's fine to remove tools from people being jerks, right? I feel like if enough people in your community are saying this is, is a problem right and this is enabling others to be to be to be to be racist right then go ahead and remove it like who cares right no one cared about this thing until this started being
Starting point is 01:12:25 a issue right and and like I I always go back to being just like a reactionist take right no one cared about it generally right until people started raising the issue and now all of a sudden they love this skin is the best skin the world bro just let it go if it makes five other people happy right like that's perfectly fine right and when I was thinking about this yesterday because I was thinking about like how to how to talk about it right to me it kind of goes into like being decent to other folk right so for example Ivan right we've had you know situations where like you would say something to me and I would be like that kind of bugged me a little bit and I would tell you hey Ivan what you said to me kind of offend to me and you go and
Starting point is 01:13:01 what's the first thing you do Ivan when I say that ignore you yeah hey man deal with it you little no he honestly goes hey sorry about that didn't realize this is this is bugging you know I'll you know, I'll do better. Great, awesome things. And then we go on with the day, right? That's the normal, decent thing that you would do, right? These people don't do that and they're never going to do that. So removing the tools to me is perfectly fine, right?
Starting point is 01:13:26 I think, I think, you know, someone in the comments or in the chat is saying, kind of pointless, racists are still going to tunnel and sit on top of down and hook players using African-American players. Yeah, but this is removing one more tool, right? And then that's, that's kind of what it's about, you know? So I feel like you're right. Like anything, anything that's being used to cause harm to others should not be a part of any game. I agree with that. A million percent, you know, and if people are using, you know, a skin that was just like this mask to do some sort of like racist thing
Starting point is 01:14:11 during the game like that should totally be removed however however however however i don't think that solves the problem no it definitely doesn't sell the problem for sure of you know a bigger problem which is like you know racism like stopping people from being racist is it going to stop that obviously it's not and that's actually like one of the reasons why i stopped playing c s go and other online games is because i got to the point where dude i'm i'm i'm i'm 40 years years old. Like I don't need a 12 year old kid to be calling me names like in CS. Like I just don't I don't want to play video games like that right. So I quit playing that game for that reason because I just got tired of all these mostly kids just cursing at me, telling me
Starting point is 01:15:00 things about my mom, about my sexuality, about my race, about whatever. You know, it's just super toxic. And it's not just counterstrike. it's sad to say that it's a it's a problem in gaming it's and it's been around forever even growing up in the 80s and 90s going to arcades you know and I'm guilty of this myself like playing street fighter with my buddies what's the first thing you do when you beat someone in street fighter you know get in their face and you go yeah boy you know like you it's kind of like talking smack is kind of part of not really so much anymore to be honest I would say most of the fighting game community is pretty chill.
Starting point is 01:15:41 No, not anymore. But I'm saying like from general, back in the day, like, oh, bro, I got stories about the arcade days. Don't worry. Just like the competitive nature of games. Like, it brings out like that type of, uh, I guess, personality in people where, you know, you start getting aggressive, you start talking smack.
Starting point is 01:15:57 Yeah. You start trolling people and things like that. And it sucks that a lot of people just go way too far with it. Yeah. You know, they do things like, you know, come up. with like offensive us because they know
Starting point is 01:16:11 it's going to trigger people. They put on a mask because they know it's going to make people mad. They call people certain names
Starting point is 01:16:18 because they know they're going to get offended and it's just like it sucks. And I wish video games not only remove things like this
Starting point is 01:16:29 when people voice their concerns but actually made it easier for people to like report others for doing so because it's not that easy. Like for example,
Starting point is 01:16:39 like the game that I always talk about and play Super Mega Baseball, every once in a while I'll come across a player that just, you know, has like an offensive username. Yeah. And they're just trolling me while I'm playing. And I can't do anything about it. I just have to like, okay, well, this person's annoying. I'm going to turn off my headset.
Starting point is 01:17:01 I'm going to ignore what they're saying to me. And I'm just going to try to play the game as good as I can. Yeah. But at the back of my mind, I just keep thinking about how annoying they are, and it doesn't make the game very fun. And there's, like, literally no way for me to do anything about it other than going to their Steam profile, right-clicking on their name, like, reporting them. Oh, yeah, dude. I have no problem reporting people for anything. Like, that's just, like, to me, it has become a common practice, right?
Starting point is 01:17:27 The way I see it is that if I report someone and then someone else report someone and someone else, eventually, like you're removed from the game when I'm about to see them again, right? It might take a little bit. I'm a firm believer of blocking people. I don't know it. I did it this morning on Twitter. I don't know you. Like yesterday on Twitter, man. Would you block?
Starting point is 01:17:43 Yesterday on Twitter, someone posted a picture of the H510 Elite cable management bar with the slit. Oh, that guy. Yes. And they asked, what is this slip for? And I said, it's for custom water cooling loops. And then this guy jumps in there and he's like, this is the stupidest design I've ever seen in my life. That's not what it's for. And all these people were like posting pictures.
Starting point is 01:18:04 Like, actually, that is what it's for. Yeah. And the guy was just like, I don't care where that's what it's for. It's a stupid design. I hate it. And you guys are stupid if you guys believe NZXT for telling you that is what it's for. And like, yeah. He just kept going off, man. And like it was.
Starting point is 01:18:18 I even sent him photos too. I even like Googled H510 water cooling and so the people were using this little slit to hold their, to hold their water reservoir. There's a thing. It doesn't have to go there. You can put it where the hell you want, right? But that's where it went. Yeah, no.
Starting point is 01:18:30 And yeah, I, I saw that once he started like like, like the, you say like, like, like yelling at people or whatever. I was like, okay, like, I'm just going to stop engaging with him because he obviously just wants to argue about. So we ignored him like all day. And then this morning at 3 o'clock in the morning when I was looking through Twitter, this guy's still going at it. And I was like, why is this guy so mad?
Starting point is 01:18:52 And I looked at his profile. He had no profile picture. I clicked on his profile. He had two followers. I'm like, why is this guy in our mentions? And just like, he's just trolling. Not just us. He's literally trolling.
Starting point is 01:19:05 controlling the people that are telling him what they're using his computer for. And he's not accepting their answer. It's just annoying. Like, OK, block. Like, you know, I just wish you can do that in video games. You know, someone's bugging you. Just block him and you never have to deal with them ever again. So some games do let you do that, right?
Starting point is 01:19:25 Do your N60 cases not have handles anymore? No, we don't have handles because the days of land are over because of the internet. So I'm sorry. Sometimes we're doing through chat here. But the puck is for it. You get a puck. You can hold your whole computer with it. Don't try that.
Starting point is 01:19:40 Please don't try that. Yeah, so someone said earlier in the chat, and I actually kind of want to address this because I think it's a terrible take. It was I want to see the dead by daylight devs play in a black ops two lobby. Here's the thing, right? First off, the devs aren't children, right? The devs are like old-ass adults, right? They're probably like in their, you know, like my age, right? And they're like late mid mid mid 20s,
Starting point is 01:20:05 but early 30s like me, right? They probably played in black ops lobbies before. They probably played in in like modern warfare lobbies before, right? That's that that similar take, right? Oh, you know, you guys wouldn't last in the know, a cod lobby is bro, you wouldn't last in the middle ages in like an iron maiden. Like that's a dumb comparison, right?
Starting point is 01:20:24 We've moved past the point hopefully, right, in society where you don't need to hop on and start talking about, you know, someone's moms are like throwing out slow. is in like a lobby chat that's just that makes very sense it's actually why I refunded a chival was the chivalry or figure which game was it was it was a moord how right dude the mordhow community in all the servers that I joined when that game came out was like the worst thing ever dude it was just like the most racist names people shouting in the dumbest shit and I'm like like bro I'm an adult this ain't funny to me it's it's not entertaining you know like if you if you're if you're gonna be
Starting point is 01:21:02 an idiot being idiot within the context of the game don't have like dumbass names like obama's whatever whatever right like it's just really stupid so i just i literally closed the game because i swear every game was like that and then i just refunded it and they swear i saw an article where they're like the devs are addressing the mass amounts of racism in their game and it's like yeah dude like there's a lot of people in your game who for some reason are really trashy i was like i deal with it hard question you both look young uh bro i'm 32 my man high high voltage said that we We both have good genes. They both look 20.
Starting point is 01:21:33 So I'm looking old. I got bags. I got bags here, right? My hair is way too long. You know what it is? It's really just the hair. If I pulled it back and you saw my, my legit hairline, then then you know, right? We got that Count Dracula going, bro.
Starting point is 01:21:47 You're definitely older than me. Yeah, I got that Widow's Peak. He's going to go crazy. It's going to go crazy when I get a little bit older. That's why I have it long. And actually, I'm too lazy to go to the barber. But yeah, yeah, I think that, you know, I think that, you know, I think that, you know the well they're going to be racist anyway okay cool this is one less way of them to be racist
Starting point is 01:22:06 and to be a hundred percent like like like like uh like to be a like to keep it a bill on this stuff right this stuff does cause harm right it does upset people right and you know i don't know if you know right maybe you're like a person made out of a stone right but like if i'm upset my whole day is ruined right like if i'm if i had a really shitty day that translates to a lot of shitty things in the future, right, like for that day, you know? And there's levels, man. Yeah, yeah, there's levels to it, yeah. Like if someone like cuts in line when I'm at the coffee shop, you know, I'm going to be mad
Starting point is 01:22:45 about it. Yeah. Obviously, it's going to make me, it's not going to ruin my day, but I'm going to be like, man, this person thinks they can just cut. What a jerk, yeah. Yeah, they're freaking jerks. Forget that guy. Then if I'm walking down the street and then some guy, you know, yells something at me and he
Starting point is 01:22:59 calls me like a racist word, that's going to have a much bigger impact on me, you know? Yeah. And it just sucks. I don't know, like I wish, it just sucks because, you know, I'm a gamer. I like playing, I've been playing video games pretty much my whole life. And it's always been like this. It's just, it's always just been, there's always people out there that are just not nice. And it sucks that, you know, people are doing things.
Starting point is 01:23:29 things like this like you know using a mask in a game yeah to offend others is like dude like for what yeah for what yeah get over it it's literally 22 like zoom takes place in 2023 you think about that like we're in the future guys like there's no there's no reason to to act like this anymore or ever you know to be on this is not now more than ever because that we have all this uh history to look back on like to see what happened like how people fought for their rights and things like that and you know like there's still people out there that are basically dummies so it's annoying uh i don't know i just think by the time i managed to be able to ignore this kind of behaviors in the internet i find it really easy to ignore it and move on after receiving
Starting point is 01:24:15 so much of it so here here's the thing right that's awesome for you dude that is not the same for everybody not every single person operates the same way right like you know if if i'm married right And I tell, you know, and my wife's upset about something. And I, and then I tell them, oh, that doesn't bother me. It shouldn't bother you. She don't slap me upside the face. She didn't say, you better shut the hell up and you better care that I care about this thing, right? That's kind of what it comes from, right?
Starting point is 01:24:41 Like I talked about this during the ex-mirah mirror podcast, which, by the way, shout out to her because she gave us a nice shout out in her, like, you know, 20, 21 roundup, which is very nice that, you know, she helped us out with stuff. You know, I have, you know, the privilege that I sound very, very, very. not Hispanic, right? I have zero accent, right? I have zero accent, right? And I can pass for probably like an ugly Italian, right? Or someone from the Middle East, maybe, right? It's like all in the nose, right? So I can go through life pretty okay with people not bugging me, right? But imagine this is like, you know, you're like a person with a darker complexion, right? You can't hide that. You literally
Starting point is 01:25:21 cannot hide that. You just like that all the time. And then imagine all the stuff you see every single day right from a million other people right on the street online right at home at work whatever and then you have the and then you're like all right cool this is all done I'm gonna sit down and play video game that I enjoy playing and I'm gonna have some good times and then the shit happens in game it's just like you know that's all I can say it just sucks it just sucks you know so you know should we have to remove stuff in game no we shouldn't but you know but if you were going to be you know if people are going to be you know going to be assholes about it, then no, you don't get the habit, right? This is why you cannot have
Starting point is 01:26:01 nice things. If you're upset about this, then maybe you should talk to your friends online, you know? If you see someone doing stuff like this online and their buddy of yours, don't let it go, right? Because the thing that, you know, might be a lot of it as well, right? Like, people don't keep each other in check. I will 100% keep others that I know in check and they know that I'm going to call your ass out on and something. And I hope you call me out to you because I am 100% never right on like a lot of things. I'm I would say 20% of the time, I'm right, 100% on the time. But the other 80% I'm I'm hell of wrong, right? Because I'm old and I've been here for a minute, right? And I've done and said dumb, you know, stupid things before, right? And I'm still learning and I'm growing,
Starting point is 01:26:41 right. So let me know if I ever do something wrong. But anyway, you know, get on the devs for like supporting their community. You know, I think that, you know, people of all kinds and colors and whatever, it should feel, you know, respected and, and, you know, find, you know, find their favorite game to be a place where they can be themselves and enjoy themselves without having the fear of people being, you know, jerks to them. You know, I've, I've had games or like, I just, was I not having a good time and it kind of like, you know, it bum me out. Like, sometimes I'll play like Hunt, right? And Hunt's a hard game. And maybe I'm having really crappy games all night and I'm just not on it. Yeah, that doesn't make me feel good, you know? I'm hoping to log on and
Starting point is 01:27:19 have a good time, you know, and, you know, sometimes, you know, having a good time is, you know, like winning. And, you know, if, if, if that puts me on tilt sometimes, I can't imagine how things could put you on tilt if you're like, you know, if you're, if you're having to deal with stuff like this. Come at me online. At me on Twitter. I can't confirm that you're wrong a lot. Yeah. Yeah. So I thought it was cool. I, I can't remember like of any other instances of stuff like this happening in like games i i like i know what's happened is can't like from top of my head but i think it's cool you know i do get on them get on the devs for not i mean it every game man oh yeah for sure for sure people complain about things like this in every game but
Starting point is 01:28:02 not every game dev does here's the thing not every game has the ability for you to put on a black person's face right like like that's the thing like that's why this is kind of like like what the hell right well take it back to the simplest of things uh-huh on you username. Oh yeah. Why is it that you can just make up whatever offensive name that you want and like just start playing any game you want? Do you remember, do you remember when Activision put in like Hall of Duty like like Black Lives Matter or whatever right? And then people are like, like I was in a game two seconds ago and this is this person's name and I'm like, oh yeah, we're going to fix it and they went on like a banning spree. Oops, I'm not going to my mic and then went on like a banning
Starting point is 01:28:40 spree. Yeah, like like there's a there's a there's you know, yeah, it's it's a you know, it's a, you know, it's your responsibility to make sure that people don't use your game to be hateful and to be racist and offensive, right? Obviously, you know, there's like a line, right? Like you can call someone like a jerk or an asshole, whatever, and then no one's going to care. Right. But obviously, you know, that stops where like, you know, where like the racism begins or whatever. You know, that's when you have to put those tools in place.
Starting point is 01:29:06 But, yeah, I remember there, there have been some ridiculous names online that I've seen from people. Yeah. Sometimes they're funny. I'm like, oh, my, that's so clever. I hate that I'm laughing at this is so bad, but so clever. And then there's like the, you're just trying to be offensive for literally no reasons and just trying to be edgy. Egy, my guy. Just trying to be the funniest person in the world than you're not doing a very good job at that.
Starting point is 01:29:35 All right. I mean, anything else? No, I just got some community questions to go through. Let's go. If you. All right. first question from a bunch of you what what is the secret word well the secret word is typed out on the screen here if you're watching and if you're not if you're just
Starting point is 01:29:55 listening live it's a and d I don't know why Dennis shows that secret word today but that's what it is because I was literally looking at the AMD article yeah next question from Joey G that one dude yes or they ask I was I would like to know if PC pre-builds will come down in price or not. The answer is, we sure hope so. Unfortunately, we, NZXT does not, do not control the price of computer hardware. Contrary to popular belief, like a lot of people think that, you know, we saw a computer for $1,000. because we're making a thousand dollars making a thousand dollars exactly but they
Starting point is 01:30:47 don't know you know what we're paying for the parts are going into that computer so yeah you know it's not a secret graphics cards are expensive for everyone including nzxte it's obviously going to drive the price up of a computer which if you were listening to the first part of the show we're talking about you know cryptocurrency and if that's causing the price of that's going up and Things like that. So the answer is, I mean, I think they will. I hope they will.
Starting point is 01:31:17 I just don't know when or if it's going to happen. All right. Next question here. Ask the pandemic. How long does it take to build a PC? That's from SS Jamani. I'm assuming they're asking about their order. I'm assuming they're asking because they have a computer waiting to be built like on the website.
Starting point is 01:31:40 I don't know if they're asking like if. I'm going to take for a computer to get built if they buy from us or just like if they're building it for themselves. So I guess I'll answer in both ways. If you are building a computer yourself and it's your first time building a computer, I'm going to say it's going to take you around three hours if it's your first time because only three hours. Typically you're really scared because you spend a lot of money on parts and you're like, you know, worried that you're going to break the motherboard. and you're wearing like an electrostatic discharge bracelet and you're being like super careful and it's just really slow process.
Starting point is 01:32:20 You've got the whole gear set up, right? Yeah. You're like, Mom, I need you to buy me a non-conductive surface so I can build this PC. Yeah, like by the time you built your fifth PC, you're building on the carpet in your socks. Like you don't even think about it, right? So I would say the first time,
Starting point is 01:32:38 I'm going to say first time, total new, being nervous. I'm going to say three hours. Okay. For someone such as myself, Dennis, who is an experienced PC builder, I'm going to say anywhere from 30 minutes to an hour, depending on like the hardware. So the last computer I built was with like an M.2.
Starting point is 01:33:06 So it was my first thing, actually building a computer with, Like an M.D2. And I built that thing in 30 minutes. And if you're counting the Windows install and everything, it was like an hour or whatever. But if you buy a computer from us, it depends, I guess, like, when you buy it. Like if you click checkout Monday at 4.59 p.m. with 59 seconds, you know, chances are it's not going to get built until, you know, the next working day or whatever. which would be on Monday, you know, but if you buy it on Monday morning, you know, 8 a.m., you know, chances are it's probably going to get, you know, built that day and shipped out the next, you know. So it just depends when you buy it. If you're buying it, like, during Black Friday or Christmas season, you know, when there's like the, just a bunch of people buying computers, it's going to be a little bit slower.
Starting point is 01:34:01 But we do let you know on the website the times are as accurate as we can make them for expected. Yeah, the estimate is pretty accurate. I would say if you're asking specifically how long the computer itself takes a bill, I think what? I think our bill is going to get a computer done in like, what, 30 minutes, right? 45 minutes. Something like that. Yeah, they know. They're really fast. The thing that you're waiting for mostly if you're waiting for your computer to be built from us is just your computer to get in line. Like once we once they actually, like once your order actually comes up, that's like, it's like really quick process, right? We have a video about it on our TikTok how computers about in nzxte we can link in a second um but uh yeah like what you're mostly
Starting point is 01:34:46 waiting for is just that for shipping and you're waiting for what uh like the testing qa right qc not qa qc that stuff what all seven i think that's pretty much it right it's pretty easy there's a video heavy yeah and then obviously apart from building there's the packing and the shipping which yeah you know also takes time obviously. Why don't you guys let us swap out parts if they come broken? Depends on the part. Well, first of all, they shouldn't come broken.
Starting point is 01:35:18 So reason number one. We sell you a computer that has broken parts. The last thing we want you to do is to have to fix it. So that's reason number one. It's unacceptable to receive a computer with broken parts. Unfortunately, we can't prevent that from happening because, A, we don't make every single part that goes inside the computer, so we can't really, you know, ensure that, you know, this graphics card that's going in there is not going to break when you play New World,
Starting point is 01:35:47 for example, right? That's a possibility. Right. And also, we don't have, we don't own the shipping company, so we can't guarantee that the FedEx driver is not going to kick your package when it gets to your doorstep, which also happens, unfortunately. And also, the other reason is because we don't know you and we don't know what you're capable of.
Starting point is 01:36:06 So some people that we sell computers to, very experienced. You know, they've, they subscribe to J's 2 Sense and they've watched every single bit video and whatnot and they know how to do everything with the computer. And there's other people who are coming from like, you know, playing on Xbox for 15 years and have no clue what a computer is or whatever. And like the last thing we want is for them to go in there and break something or hurt themselves because they don't know what they're doing. So that's the answer for that.
Starting point is 01:36:38 So for example, I got a PC and it wouldn't boot with the RAM. I wanted to send the RAM back and upgrade the RAM, but wasn't allowed to. So I'm going out of pocket. Well, first of all, we shouldn't have to pay anything to us if we're fixed the computer for you. But, you know, again, like that, honestly, that will be between you and customer service and you would ask them why they wouldn't let you do it. You know, and maybe they'll be like an actual answer. Like, there's a multitude of reasons why we couldn't do that, right? Steady slabbing.
Starting point is 01:37:03 I'm going to keep it real with you, man. or gal I don't know you if you not just a computer and I'm not just saying this because you're costing from us but if you were to if you buy anything in life
Starting point is 01:37:13 and that thing you bought is defective please return it don't try to fix it yourself even if you can don't spend more money to do it like that's not an acceptable transaction
Starting point is 01:37:27 like if you bought a car I agree if you bought a car and the engine didn't work Are you going to just buy a new engine and install it in the car? No, you're going to call up the dealer and be like, hey, man, this car I bought does not work. Fix it. So, yeah, please contact their customer service team if you bought a computer from us and their RAM isn't working.
Starting point is 01:37:47 Don't spend more money yourself on RAM that works and whatnot to fix it yourself. And not just that, but also like, you know, like hold that company accountable, right? Whether it's us or anybody, right? Like, they sent you the computer that's messed up, get them to fix it for you, get them to do it all in their dime, right? I like I've had companies be like oh yeah yeah you know we'll take the thing back for RMA but you know you gotta pay for on shipping and I'm like no like your thing's broken I want you to give me the shipping for free and they'll do it right you really just got a bug them for it just don't be a jerk right just be nice right you know just you know big sure nice
Starting point is 01:38:20 to your customer service right it's it's not their fault right but you know like you know I was you know just ask for things you know firmly and nicely and be like hey like you know I don't want to pay for the shipping on this thing or whatever I don't want to do this do anything out of pocket. And as far as I know, we will never charge you for anything like shipping materials, stuff like that. You know, I think our customer service is one of the best, no matter what anybody says, right? Um, there was a point in time where, you know, pre, pre-COVID when people would complain about a customer service, I would almost always be like, you'd just be in a Karen, right? And then I would ask about the situation. And yeah,
Starting point is 01:38:50 they're probably being in Karen, right? It's a little bit different like now because the, the, the, the team has expanded so much and, you know, COVID is still raging rampant through the world, right? COVID 5.0 just dropped, right? and, you know, things are getting crazy again. But, you know, I would say for the most part, right, 99% of the time our customer team is, our customer service team is like A1, they're awesome, you know, they're a bunch of cool peeps.
Starting point is 01:39:13 I eat food with them regularly. They're big food eaters. They love to eat. So, yeah. Anyway, not hating any curious. No, yeah, for sure, dude. You know, like for sure, right? Like, again, right, like, you should never do these things on your own, right?
Starting point is 01:39:28 may I get both your names and add it into my next email. Yes, our names are Josh Fuadjaro's. Dakota, wait, with Dakota, whatever. No. Josh and Dakota. Yeah. Say Josh and Dakota sent you. You can drop our day.
Starting point is 01:39:45 Ivan and Dennis. I don't, I think if you add our names though, they might ignore you. Yeah. I don't think it's going to help you any. If it's for, it was for name drop purposes. Like, they told me to do this thing. They'll probably ignore it because people do that all the time. kind of goes into like another thing that happens on a daily basis, you know, like, so Dennis and I,
Starting point is 01:40:04 we're the social media guys. Here we go. Like when you're on Twitter, when you're on Instagram, when you're on Reddit and you're talking to NZXT, you're talking to one of us, right? And a lot of times people will go on whatever social media platform and I don't want to say complain, but they'll, you know, say things like, what the heck, NZT? I bought a computer from you, and I spent $3,000, and it doesn't work. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:40:38 And I'm all for reaching out to a company to get that stuff situated, but I'm going to keep it real with you guys. You're going about it wrong if you're trying to do this through Reddit or Twitter or Facebook or Instagram, and not just with NXT, but any company, every company that sells you something
Starting point is 01:40:57 has a customer service department. You know, whether it's a good department or a bad department, that's a different story. But you should definitely, you know, if you're having any issues, go through customer service before anything, you know. Like I'm just saying don't go on Twitter and call people out.
Starting point is 01:41:12 Like if, you know, if you submit a ticket with NZXT and the service sucks or something. And the service sucks or you haven't heard back in a while for whatever reason. Yeah, let us know, for sure, yeah. If you go on Twitter and you tell us, like, we're going to ask you for you ticket number. We're going to reach out to the customer service team. We're going to make it right.
Starting point is 01:41:30 But just, you know, don't think that social media is customer service. Like right now, for example, Steady Slavin came on Twitch asking this question. And it's a good question. You know, a lot of people don't know that question. But, you know, asking for our names so you can put it in the email for customer service, it's not going to do much, to be honest. You could say Ivan and Dennis told me to contact you guys because they couldn't help me on Twitch and I'm sure they're going to help you.
Starting point is 01:41:55 But I'd be like, okay. Other than that, there's not really much name dropping will help you with. So go through customer service. They're there for a reason and they will help you. Right. I wasn't saying something about totally forgot what it was, to be honest, in regards to what you were just talking about. And I think at this point, it's not worth it to bring it up.
Starting point is 01:42:16 Next question. Of course, 5744. What is a game in 2022 that you guys are very excited about? What's a what in 2022? What's a game? Oh, God, dude. That you're looking forward to in 22. I don't expect anything that come out next year or this year.
Starting point is 01:42:33 I think it's all going to get delayed. But if there is any game that I would want to see come out, that should be coming out. First one is Warhammer 40K Dark Tide, because I love Vermin Tide 1 and 2. And I want to see that same game in a Warhammer sci-fi setting. It sounds super low. it. And then I think, did they announce Space Marine 2 as well for, for this year? Let me see.
Starting point is 01:43:00 Space Marine 2, release day TVA. Okay. Yeah. So I want Space Marine 2. I want Space Marine 2 because Space Marine 1 is awesome. I like enjoying the Warhammer 40K franchise through video game format. I know a little bit about the lore, but I really don't play the games. And those games look really fun. Fat Sharks doing Dark Tide I think Focus and Sabre doing Space Marine 2 So I'm pretty excited about that
Starting point is 01:43:28 Total War Warhammer 3 Nah, I don't care about fantasy bro I don't care about fantasy Even though Warhammer is super lit fantasy wise Yeah Warhammer's awesome Yeah I just like the space marine Space Racists You know like to me that's like the funer one
Starting point is 01:43:42 Where like literal planets of people are being decimated For no reason other than someone just had a bad day Like to me, that's just such a crazy, ridiculous concept. The correct answer to the question was Grand Theft Out of Six, Dennis, by the way. It's never coming out, dude. Loyal Maker 2 says, what's good? Quick question. Any plans for products from NZXT this year?
Starting point is 01:44:05 Well, let me see. NZXT has been in business since 2004. And every year since then, NZXT has come out with new products. So if I was a gambling man, and I'm not a gambling man, but if I were a gambling man, I would probably bet all my crypto that NZC would come out with a product this year. Just saying, just guessing, though. I don't know. Ask Austin Six is asking, are there plans for better high airflow cases?
Starting point is 01:44:42 I know there is like the H-Fritone flow, but I'm talking about even higher flow. The H510 super flow. We can't confirm anything that is in development, but what we can confirm is that, you know, we do take community feedback seriously, you know, which is part of the reason why the H510 flow came out is because a lot of people were saying they wanted better airflow on that case. And we did it. And we also know that people are asking for better airflow on other cases. So whether that happens or when that happens, can't really say. but I can't confirm that we hear you and hopefully we can make something that you like in 2022. I'm actually about to drop the hottest news right now on this podcast.
Starting point is 01:45:27 I don't care anymore. We're releasing the H510 Superflow. No, sorry, the H510 heavy flow and it's red. All right, moving on. Think about that one for a second, guys. Let it marinate your brain before you. Pretty cringy joke. I think it's late.
Starting point is 01:45:43 Prime Gaming One Shot Paul. Hey guys, I see the new creator PC has a 3080 TI, and last year, which was last week, had a 3090. What prompted the change? Well, the answer is just the supply. You know, our stock on our website changes daily, depending on what we have available. And so the specs on the pre-builds also change. They're not set in stone. Hopefully one day they can be. where it's like, you know, every single pre-built from whatever series is exactly the same. But right now, it's just not a possibility unfortunately. Right, pretty much. Yeah, like when things were normal, the parts and the pre-built are like super consistent. I would say super consistent, but they're like pretty much the same, right? Like until new stuff came out.
Starting point is 01:46:44 But, you know, obviously we still want to sell stuff at a, similar price and that's what happens. A follow-up question from No Rest for the Wicked. He wants to know about a selling replacement front panels or aftermarket panels, but NZX you should come on with the line. Similar to the answer we gave, Ask Austin. We know people want it. However, not all of our cases support it.
Starting point is 01:47:11 So, for example, the H510 doesn't have a renewable front panel, right? So it's not something that we can just do across the board, but it's also something that we know a lot of people are asking for. So maybe and hopefully one day we will make that for you guys. Try onyx is asking, sorry to be off topic, but why is the Cracken Z-73 RGB not available as an option when creating a pre-built? I don't know the official answer to that question, but I've had a guess. My guess would be... Availability, I guess. Either that or the fact that it might take too long to install or something?
Starting point is 01:48:05 I don't know. I don't know. I actually, that's a good question. I don't know. Yeah, no, because you got like X-60, X-73 is an X-E. like 63 rgbs on there oh we do yeah we do so and it's probably just uh stock issue like availability issue where maybe we just don't have enough at the moment to put on build but um yeah what i can say is that the warehouses for blde and the warehouses for like n60com
Starting point is 01:48:28 even though it's the same website or different warehouses right so when you buy something like to get shipped to you so you can build it on your own that's comes from that comes from a different spot than from what we have in the warehouse with all the builders right and i'm assuming we wouldn't just throw one on there and but okay now it's here it's And then, like, just quickly turn off again. I'm assuming we want to have, like, a decent amount so that we can sell more than these, like, two or three. But I don't know.
Starting point is 01:48:48 That's Harry about that. Harry! Say, what's up? No question, VLD. I hear the, I hear the outro music, Dennis. Are we done here? No, I'm just playing in the background just for a music bed. It's going to little too quiet for me.
Starting point is 01:49:02 All right. I only have one more question anyway. I think constant simulation. Yeah. But yeah, I think another question from No Rest for the Wicked. Are there any new fans with more HVee coming out this year? Once again, cannot confirm anything. But we are continuously working on improving every product we have.
Starting point is 01:49:26 So no matter what we have, whether it's a case or a puck or a fan or cracking or whatever, our design team is trying to make that stuff better. And I did see a question in the chat. I didn't see who asked it because it moved up already. But someone was asking if our product design team or designer was just a person or a team. It's a team of people. But there's people in charge of different things. So, for example, we have a person who's in charge of designing cases.
Starting point is 01:50:04 But this person also has a team with them that's helping them design the cases. Same thing with like the water coolers, the motherboard, et cetera. But everyone rolls up to the big designer himself, which is Master Johnny, who oversees all the design of every product ever since he started the company. So I guess you can say it's one designer, but with like a bunch of other designers.
Starting point is 01:50:26 Even the ugly ones. Blame John, I'm kidding. Yeah. Pretty much, right? I think that's really pretty much. Yeah. Pretty much it. It's actually Ivan.
Starting point is 01:50:37 Ivan said he builds everything. I design everything. He takes a hundred sense of the products and build every computer myself. Another question in chat here. Can you order the flow front mesh and install in H510 elite? No, they do not fit the same way. It's a different tooling. You can finagle it unofficially.
Starting point is 01:51:00 You can finagle it, but I will never tell you to break parts off your computer or shuffle and drill things around because that would what you're warranty. But you could probably do it if you're going to do it. wanted to I think someone figured it out but they're like it took me a while I'm like yeah maybe we want but I do know it's something that you know we do know that it's something that people want right and we are you know again always paying attention you know so let us know you want it and we'll tell people that not only paying attention but we're like Dennis and I we're the messengers
Starting point is 01:51:29 like when you guys tell us something and we tell the product team or we're the advocates we tell people we tell people the things you tell us so not just about our products but even if it's like about the web website or customer service or whatever. Like we let the right people know. It's just, unfortunately, Dennis and I are not, you know, the ones who are able to help a lot of times or do the things you want us to do. But we do pass along the message. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:51:59 Yeah. We are honestly your best friends at NZXT, except for the customer service team because they'll be more than happy to help you out. If it's anything you want or have a problem with, the first thing I'm like, these people are complaining the internet, y'all better fix this. I want them to stock complaining. Want to be happy. Fix it. It's pretty much it. So, yeah.
Starting point is 01:52:19 Be nice to your customer service reps. Be nice to your social media managers, not interns. I was going to say, please stop calling social people interns. It triggers a hell out of me. And then the reason why is because I know the dumb stuff that I've done on social, I can never imagine giving. like any intern like just keys of the kingdom all right have fun go screw up the brand now say something stupid right like if like seasoned professionals say stupid stuff i can't imagine what stupid things you know someone who has like very little experience would do it's there's always
Starting point is 01:52:53 a process i feel the same way actually i love it when people think i'm an intern or when people think or people write stuff like uh who's writing this account a 15 year old like i love it when that to me is hilarious that to me is funny when so much just assumes we're like like a child and like now bro like like um there was someone who was like uh who was like i can't believe that like this person with the four years of college you know whatever whatever just so they can tweet dumb memes and like i literally replied to them like i dropped out i got a degree homie so it's like oh damn we got ratio by company like people don't expect this just to hop in the comments and just to them just be honest right like we dropped out of school dude
Starting point is 01:53:35 We do have a lot of time on our hands. Yeah, but that's by design, right? That's how you run a good social account is by having time. And committing time to responding and engaging with your community and whatever way is acceptable for your brand. Speaking of time, we're almost out of it, Dennis. So we got two announcements here. We do.
Starting point is 01:54:01 What are the announcements, Ivan? Do you want to do it? Sure. Okay. All right. Do you want to add a third announcement? Do you want to add a third announcement? I'll just type of here, tell me yes or no.
Starting point is 01:54:10 So first announcement is, let me put this up here. The NZXT partner program has launched in beta, quote, asterisk in beta, work in progress. But if you are a creator and you want to support NZXT and be supported by NZXT, you should definitely consider applying to this program. What is the program? Great content inspires people. I'm going to read out the website. We spent a lot of money in this copy, right? A lot of blood, sweat and tears.
Starting point is 01:54:44 Great content inspires people in the foster community at NZXT. We believe we believe we win together. The N60 partner program gives creators tools, resources, and support to achieve their goals. This program is currently in beta. We're open to feedback as you continue. This is important, guys. It's in beta, right? We're working on it.
Starting point is 01:55:02 If you don't like something, please let us. know. If you do like something, definitely let us know. So we can make it better for you. Because who is, who is it about? It's not about me. It's not about Ivan. It's not about anybody. It's about you, Mr. Mrs. or non-binary creator. Whoever you are, we want you if you want us. That's how that's how it works. Yeah, the the, the, the just, I was, I was saying like the overall idea of the program, right, is to support creators, right? to help them be successful to grow within ZXT and wherever you're at, right? So whether you're an avid gamer, a community focused, you know, you got a regular schedule,
Starting point is 01:55:45 you're a fan. Ivan, what are some of the benefits from joining the partner program? Well, probably the coolest one that I think a lot of people are going to really enjoy is just getting cool merch. So, you know, who wouldn't want to wear a cool NZXT hoodie, right? Not just hoodies, but it's going to be a bunch of merch coming out. You also get a three-month membership to SolarStream. So SolarStream is a service that gives content creators a lot of knowledge, tools, resources, etc.
Starting point is 01:56:19 on how to stream. Pretty awesome. You also, not every creator, but some creators do get accepted into the Epic Supported Creator Program. So you get a bunch of free video games. You also get access to the SuperCStrault. secret exclusive NZT partner Discord server, which is like, you know, if you've been, if you're part of the NZXT Discord server, just imagine that, but like a hundred times better. You also get access to another top secret partner news letter, which is going to give you some exclusive news and updates directly from us.
Starting point is 01:56:59 And you're also going to probably the other cool thing is you're going to get access to NZXD products before anyone else. So as we start coming out with new products, we're gonna be giving these out to our partners so they can not just tell people about them, but use them and enjoy them and have fun with them. So I was only clarify some real quick, Ivan, for the Epic Games Support of Creator program,
Starting point is 01:57:22 it's not just games and stuff. Well, actually don't know if they even give games. But what I do know for sure what they do is they also provide you with like a code. So like if someone buys something using that code, V-Bucks a game on, you know, whatever, that benefits the creator as well. So that's probably a big thing, too, like be a source of extra monies for you. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:57:42 Ivan, what's that level two? Do you want to go through this or do we just want to link people? No, we'll just let people to go check it out. Yeah, go into the website, go read it. Click on the partner link. You'll see it. It's in the community tab. Do you want to be in level two?
Starting point is 01:57:54 No, I'm kidding. You want to be at every level. Every level is amazing for every person. Everyone's amazing. Be awesome partners. Again, you know, I would say the biggest thing to keep in mind with this program is, it is very new. We just launched it and it is in beta. So if there's anything you don't like about it, anything you think might make it better, anything you want us to never do, definitely let us know, right?
Starting point is 01:58:15 We're here to open. You know, I think we have a great track record of listening to people and, you know, making appropriate changes when they need to be done. And, you know, we want to make sure you guys are happy with this. All right. Next thing, because many people are asking about this. I guess we're talking about this, right? We're hiring, N60's hiring, n60.com slash careers and a variety of places. You can work in places like the city of industry, Melbourne, Victoria, I'm assuming it's
Starting point is 01:58:42 Australia, Melbourne, right? Spain, you can work in Taiwan. What else we got here? Other amazing places. Remote California, so it basically means you're remote. What else he got here? Shenzhen, China, if you want to, I don't know what you'd be doing there, but do. cool stuff in China. You want to work in China? Japan, Germany, France, kinds of places.
Starting point is 01:59:08 We got all kinds of roles and stuff too. Like you could be a Portables Engineering lead or a senior electrical engineer or a firmware engineer. You could even be a sales manager in Korea. You can do whatever you want. No Middle East. I don't know. Look at the website. Things change all the time. Sign up for what works for you. It's a lot of Europe. You're not listening to me if you literally are asking about Europe. I just said it two seconds ago. Spain equals Europe, right? I'm pretty sure Spain's in Europe. Apply to work with us if you're like. We're awesome here. Yeah, exactly. One last announcement, Dennis, if you want to open Slack and share the screenshot since we are we are running a little late and the giveaway did just end. We just announced
Starting point is 01:59:51 the giveaway winners right now. So I don't know if it works. Hold up coming with you. Lucian C first place. That doesn't work. It makes you look at the Slack. Vichnu Prasai. second place Hassan and third place congratulations check out your emails I'll email you guys later today yeah and send you your gift cards so if it's a remote do you have to actually live in the country I don't know man go check the website it'll tell you there oh you can live wherever that's remote that's your that's your first test to whether you can work or not is figuring that answer out through our our page I actually don't know I think I haven't's written on that though but I'm pretty sure like if it's
Starting point is 02:00:29 like remote in China you probably want to be in the that country though right probably work in this time zone so I'm sure that'll be um that's not necessarily true depends on the job so it depends on the job but the job description will tell you go everything you need to know everything you go just if you think you're good just apply and then and then you'll be you'll be good yeah like I know like on our creative team just yesterday I was talking to a designer like it was 8 o'clock in the morning for me and then on slack it said it was two o'clock in the morning for them. And I asked them where they lived and said the Philippines.
Starting point is 02:01:04 And I said, well, how the heck are you going to make this two o'clock meeting? Because isn't that six in the morning for you? And they're like, yeah, well, it just depends on where you live. But ideally, I think just for time zone purposes, it might be, might behoove you to be, I guess, close by if you need to be, depending on whatever the job is and what the description is. Probably assume, yeah, probably assume that's the case. But, you know, try anyway, right?
Starting point is 02:01:28 You never know. If it says remote Germany, then you are probably going to want to be in Germany. If it's a remote remote, you can live anywhere, I guess. This is a remote remote and I don't remember the website. I forgot. I saw it two seconds ago. It's out of sight out of mind. Listen, check it out on the internet.
Starting point is 02:01:45 And also, don't be like, what's his name? Don't be like no rest for worked. For the wicked. Is that it is? No rest for wicked, yeah. I'm going to mispronounce it because it's misspelled. put us down as professional references. If I get a phone call, hey, do you know this person? I'd be like, they're the worst. They don't subscribe to my personal Twitch. They don't follow me
Starting point is 02:02:08 on my personal Twitter. I don't know who the heck they are. They never sent me no V-bucks. Don't hire them. And off to the opposite, no rest for the wicked. I will give you a link in recommendation at the end of this podcast. You can definitely use me as a reference. Oops. If somebody resume first before I start recommending people. And I need to play at least one one sweaty game of like CS go with you. I like to recommend first and get the reference later. All right. Is that it, Ivan?
Starting point is 02:02:40 Yeah. No, we'll save the other announcement for next week. Sounds good. All right. All right, folks. Thank you very much for listening to our podcast. Please stick around after the show so that we could, you know, we could do a raid.
Starting point is 02:02:56 I got a cool one lined up. This is a streamer and they're playing. Check this out. Star Wars Galaxies. Maybe you guys remember that game. It was an old Star Wars MMO. And I think this is before they made the Jedi change. I can go into a whole conversation about this.
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Starting point is 02:04:07 Or someone you hate. Actually, we prefer that. Subject them to this. And they'll be like, why did you send me this? And you tell them because I don't like you. And that'll be a fun engagement for you guys. All right. Thank you very much.
Starting point is 02:04:20 We'll see you next time. Take care. Stay safe. Happy 2022. Be nice to people on the internet. Be nice to your mom. Call her if she's still around and tell her that you miss her and you love her and bring her flowers. And stick around for the raid. Bye. Bye, everyone.

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