NZXT PODCAST - #140 - New H5 Series and T120 Air Cooler! (Ft. Andy)

Episode Date: October 27, 2022

On this week's NZXT Podcast, we discuss the new H5 series and T120 Air Cooler with Andy, NZXT's Global PR Manager! Also, drink some water. Please. Follow Andy on Twitter! twitter.com/MrSlyGuyInDaSky Tune in live every Thursday at 10AM PT on twitch.tv/NZXT and send your questions to: [e-mail]

and welcome to episode 140 of the N60 podcast, the official podcast of the N60 community. This podcast recorded live every Thursday at 10 a.m. Pacific Standard Time on the official N60 Twitch and is available to stream on demand on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Spotify, and SoundCloud. My name is Mike and with me as always is Ivan. Ivan, how are you doing? How it goes.

I'm doing good. I'm very excited to have another special edition product podcast with a very special guest. And for those of you who are tuning in live today, we also have a very special surprise giveaway announcement if you stick around till the very end. So please do that if you're tuning in live. You don't want to miss it. Trust me when I say it's going to be awesome. So without further ado, let me introduce our special guest of honor. Our regular listeners probably think he is a co-host at this point, but it's the world famous Andy Johnson.

How are you, Andy? I'm good. I'm happy to be here. He sounds like three times. He sounds ecstatic. I woke up very late. Yeah, you were late to our first meeting today. Yeah.

And I didn't realize it until someone slacked me. It's like, oh, shoot. We're here. We're here, yes. For those of the, for those of you who don't know who Andy is, Andy, can you quickly introduce yourself and let everyone know who you are and what it is you do at NCXT. My name is Andy and I'm the global PR manager at this fine company.

And I, you know, deal with all the fun and hubbub of announcing products and launching new products and spreading the word about NST to everyone across. this great, is it green earth? Let's say green earth. I hope it's green. I am. I'm kind of brown at this point. But yeah, so you hit the nail around in the head product, and we are here today to talk

about some new products that NZXT just announced a couple days ago. The first being our brand new H5 series, that includes two cases, the H5 Flow and H5 Elite. and then our brand new air coolers, the T-120 and the T-120 RGB. So, Andy, tell us what are these new cases and coolers? So the H-5 series is the successor to the, I said the goat on Twitter. I saw that. I saw that. Yeah.

To the goat NZXT case, the H-FSI. case, the H510 slash H500. It is the next iteration of, you know, our compact mid-tower case. There's two variants, the H-5 flow and the H-5 Elite, and the H-5 flow indicates that it's an, you know, an airflow-focused case. And the H-5 Elite has a front tempered glass panel and included RGB fans for the people who just love aesthetics and want to have like a beautiful very striking build for everyone to witness. Right now, showing the pictures of the actual H5 flow and H5 Elite as well.

You kind of already went through some of the flow specs and some of the lead specs. Is there anything significant difference that we kind of put into these cases recently? I would say the biggest, I think it's three. I'm going to try to hit it in three because three is a good number. The biggest thing that we did is one of the largest complaints of the H510 was it only had one exhaust pan or exhaust fan on top of the case. So with this one, we opened up the top on both across all series. These are features across all series, by the way.

We opened up the top to allow for two 120 millimeter fans, which also allows for 240 millimeter radiators to be mounted on top. And that was another feature that people really wanted was top radiator mounting support. Then the second big feature is on both cases as well. We added a third fan on the bottom to help with GPU temps. Linus did a video while back showing like how airflow works on the flow case and essentially air wasn't getting there as much. So with this one, it helps, it helps shoot air in there. So it can help cool your wonderful new GPU. And also on the cable management side, we just improved the channels to make them wider and

a little bit more cleaner. But yeah, those are the big things I would say about the H510 series, or sorry, H5 series writ large. And you mentioned that the biggest complaint was that top exhaust fan. And to me, that's the cool thing about this new H5 series is, you know, not a day goes by on social media where I don't hear or see people complain about a couple of things on H510. top exhaust being one, lack of airflow overall being the other. So I really do think that this H5 series, whether you go with the floor or the elite,

does address pretty much all the complaints that I've been seeing about the H510. And what's interesting to me is even right now in this podcast, as we're going over the specs on the H5, people are saying, we want a bigger case with 360 support on top. And my response is the same. It's like we already have that.

It's called the H7. Yeah. Yeah. So it's, I feel like no matter what we do, people are always going to want more, which is fine. It's cool. You know, you guys can always pass along your feedback. We'll also share with the product team. But yeah, so this is definitely not, and I'm take this with a grain of salt because

it's, you know, this is going to be subjective. I wouldn't say this is our best case. I still think our best case is the H7 because you can fit more hardware. It does have better airflow, it does have more room for expansion and upgrades and all that stuff. However, the H5 series is our most compact mid-tower case. So if you want to get like the most big, I guess, hardware into the smallest possible footprint, it's going to be the H5. It's not going to be the H7.

Yeah, I mean, yeah. You can get by with high-end builds in the age five. It's just your temps will might be a little warmer. But if you have a more modest build, the more mid-range build, you're going to be perfectly satisfied. I mean, your experience in this case won't. You know, you're going to have good temps. It's not going to hinder you.

It's going to look nice in your room. It's a case for most people, I would say. Agreed. The other most common question we've got about the H5 series since launching it, apart from, you know, telling us that they want, I think they want a H7 basically from it, is will a 4090 fit inside the H5? So yesterday we actually posted a few pictures from our warehouse of 4090s inside of the H5. and to answer that question is yes a 4090 GPU will fit inside the H5 up to a certain point

it has to be less than 365 millimeters and not every single 4090 is going to fit inside the H5 because there's some 4090s that are literally the size of a PlayStation 5 at this point so yeah it's a chunky chunky GPs these things are bricks y'all

I mean, look at the size of the GPU here And then look at the size of the fan, the radier, and the top of the case I'm 90% sure that the GPU itself is still thicker than all three of these combined Yeah, are there any two slot 4090s? There isn't right they're all three I don't know I'm pretty sure all them are I'm pretty sure all them are three slot I'm like a 90% sure they are I'm yeah wouldn't be surprised if there are some outlier out there because some AIBs make some funky size cards from time to time. But I assume if you have a 4090, it's going to be at least two and a half to three slots on your PCIE expansion.

Screaming Elephant asked a good question. We should probably answer this now because we're talking about the card. But he's asking, what is NGXC stance in position on the connector burn? that's going around. I realize it's a very small number of cases and is not widespread, but curious what your stance is, should I build PC with one fails? So for those that don't know, there's been, as far as I know, two reported cases of GPs catching on fire because of the way the connector is installed on the card and it's catching on fire because the panel is putting pressure on the cable and it's bending it in a way that's causing it to overheat and burn.

burn. So our sense on that is obviously we don't want anything of ours to burn. We don't want anyone to buy a computer and then have a catch fire. And I do know that our bill team is taking measures to make sure that, you know, whenever we build a computer with one of these big cars and cables that the panel is not putting pressure on there. I also know that there are some cables being made now that are 90 degree angles that I've seen some people, I think it was, wasn't

it, um, J's 2 cents? I forgot who made a video talking about. He made a video, but I haven't watched yet. But these new 90 degree cables or something. So I'm sure you know, once those cables are readily available or if Nvidia determines that, you know, you have to do a recall

or something like that, we're just going to follow protocol, really. we can't really control what what Nvidia does. But I also do know that Nvidia is conducting an internal investigation on this thing too. So hopefully we find out that you know, it's not a widespread problem, that it is isolated, that it's not going to be a major concern.

Right now I guess everyone's just waiting to find out what that what's going to happen, right? Yeah, build that your own. risk. If you don't feel comfortable buying a 40-90 because of this issue, you don't have to and you can wait and see if it is the way of the car's still awesome.

They're still really good too. So don't feel like you have to buy the $4,000 series. Yeah. I mean, you'll be You have to buy it. You have to. Yeah. The newest of the new, you have to go for it. You have to wait in line at Microsenter at 5 in the morning to be the first

one to get it. Your internet won't work unless you have a 40-90. you can't do spreadsheets without a 4090 you need a ray trace Excel sheet Luke mayola ask a question here

which I know we normally save these questions for the end but I think we should answer it now since we're talking about graphics cards would you guys personally recommend 4090s or are you sticking with the 30 series so let's just go around the room real quick I'll start since I just answered this question on Twitter yesterday. Someone asked this very same question.

And my honest response to them was the 4090 is the latest and greatest and best graphics card is going to get you the best performance. However, the 30 series still holds up. You're still going to be able to play any game you want. It's going to be cheaper.

And you know, if not having the latest and greatest thing that is not that important to you, then yeah, even a 20 series card. are just going to still hold up right now. So you don't need to get the 40-90 if, you know, you want to save some money, basically.

What do you guys? I think my stance is if you can afford it and you want it, go get it. But if you can't afford it, there's really no need. You'll be fine with any of the 30 series cards. Depends on what your needs are. if you want to game 4K with high refresh rates, yeah, I get a 4090, but you're going to pay for it because you need also a 4K panel to even support that. And those are not super common yet or super affordable yet.

But I have a 3080 and it's fine, no complaints at all. It's still pretty dang good. I mean, of course I would love a 4090, but I think just get what you need and you'll be fine no matter what you choose. Yep, I agree with that. Yep, I agree with that. Basically echoing what they say, I have a 2070 in my PC right now. I 79700K and a 2070. I run games at 1080P, even sometimes 1440P, no problem.

And it's, you know, this is three years. I've had this for about three years now, and it still runs perfectly fine. So really, you can go for a $2,000 card if you need to save money. But like Andy said, if you have the extra money, go for it. But it is not a necessity. However, if you have the money and you literally be like, it makes no difference if I get $3,000 or $3,000 or $4,000. Go for $4,000. Why not?

Oh, hey, Mr. Matt Lee. How are you doing? We got to get him on the podcast soon. Yes, we do. I have an Intel Arc A770, 490 and a 3090 right next to my phone builds. Exactly. Friends still rocks a 1080. Yeah, same.

I have friends that still rock 1080s right now, 1060s still runs fine. 1060, I think, I don't, is the most popular card on Steam. It was at one point. I don't see why it wouldn't have changed. Yeah, the 1060 is the beast that it's holding in there. still. It also depends on what games you're playing. My PC at home is still rocking at 970, and I don't have any problems with it because the games I play are not very demanding. You're not playing in big open world games like Witcher or anything like that.

You'll be fine. You want to play like, I think the 4090 and cyberpunk gets like over 144 frames, 4K high settings with all the bells and whistles. It's like if that's the game you want to play at that resolution, at that frame rate and that quality, yeah, then get a 40-90. But if you don't care about playing cyberpunk at that level of, you know, fidelity, then you'll be fine with 30-80. I played cyberpunk with the 30-80 and no complaints, other than the game was a little interesting in terms of how it ran.

But, I mean, when it ran fine, it was fine. It ran fine on stadia for me, Andy. Rip Stadia. You got like three months, you know. You liked the Stadia, right? Yeah. Kind of for the reason that I explained, or the thing I mentioned earlier just a minute ago about,

you know, at home, I have a 970 GPU, right? So there's some games that I do dabble in occasionally that are more demanding, namely Red Data Redoubt Redemption 2. And that game is not very, doesn't run very well in a 970. So that game, I actually played a lot on Google Stadia because you just need a fast and good, reliable internet connection. And for me, it ran fine, you know, never had an issue. But I'm one of the few people that probably will miss Stadia.

I know I get a lot of flak for it, but I thought it was a very good service. I've been as a I have Xbox an Xbox series X and I'm a game pass subscriber and it has X cloud and X cloud is very good like I wouldn't play Halo on it but but a game that doesn't require like fast inputs and is a little slower um like an RPG or something like a turnbase RPG or like an adventure game where you're not you know like speeding up people left and right like it's totally adequate and once you kind of get used to the latency

issues it you know no complaints like I played a good chunk of the first psychonauts on X cloud and you know no complaints whatsoever I guess we'll go on to the

rest of the questions and we'll go into the community question. We actually got a few questions for a community. What's the difference between the H5 and H7? The H5 is smaller. The H7 is larger. The H7 has way more fan support. You could put 340 millimeter fans in the front

and 3 120 fans on the top. It's just size in radiator support for the most part. And other than the obvious aesthetic differences, but they're very similar. For those that are looking for 360 millimeter on top, the 8-7 is what you're looking for. Yeah, if you want a 360-millimeter regardless, like... Yeah, 8-7.

Also, anyone that would want a 280 on top because the H-5 only supports 240, not 280. That's true, yeah. Also, I think for people that want a really big graphics card, You know, I would, even if a 4090 does fit in a H5, you know, it might be cutting it close sometimes, and you might not be able to do something like an install front radiator. You know, the H7 might be the case that you opt for because you'll be able to have a front radiator and have the big GPU in there as well.

Yeah, I would, and also if you would want to vertical mount, vertical mount is supported on the H5 Flowin Elite Since it's up close It's like we want to give you the option to If you so choose to do it But you have to keep in mind on the H5 Since your fans are going to be close to the glass

It will heat up your GPU But on the H7 Since the The mount is further back it's not on the glass, so it doesn't really affect temperatures. Like the highest temperatures I get on mine when playing a game, because I vertical mount my GPU, which is a 3080 in my H7 flow, I rarely go above 75 degrees Celsius.

That's pretty good. Yeah. You can't have already gave some of these tips, but Andy, do you have any specific tips for people who are, thinking about purchasing an H5, what they should be looking for? I would say you just be aware on the H5 flow. You need to buy more fans to fill out the case. It only comes with two stock fans.

Ideally, just put two front fans in the front. If you front fans in the front, two fans in the front, and that will be fine for most people. obviously put two in the top to get more exhaust going but I think that would be my biggest tip for the H5

flow but like I said if you have a very if you're going for a mid-rangee type of build and don't have a 40-90 that's the size of a mini cooper I would

I would say the H5 just in general would be the best for you. I like those tips. Some good tips there from Andy. So on social media, Andy, the overall response from our community was, I would say, 99.9% positive,

a lot of excitement from people because for a long time, NCXT wasn't really known for having the best airflow in our cases. And that's kind of gone, out the window now. You know, I think we've proven that we can make cases that not only have airflow, but also look nice. They're aesthetically pleasing. So I'm curious, how was the overall sentiment on the H5 from the press? I think it was very, very positive.

Everyone, you know, thinks they look great. They love the new features that we added. I think just keep in, like we mentioned before, keep in mind if you are buying an H5 flow, just look into getting a couple more fans. But if you're front mounting a radiator, you don't have to worry about it because those fans will come included as well. So just keep that in mind.

I think, again, like I said, buy some front fans and you'd be good. And you're going to enjoy this case. I've built in an H5 Elite, and I did see the improvement over the previous one because I build in H-500s and H-5-10s many times and the changes that we made, especially in the cable management because on some of the sides it's hard to get very flat cables in,

but even the flattest and whitest of cable could fit in those cable management channels. Perfect. All right. So we talked a little bit about the cases. We also released some air coolers, correct? You kind of want to go over about the air coolers real quick? I'll go and show them on the, to the stream right now. Yeah. This isn't our first air cooler, correct?

Yeah, our first one was the NZXT HV-HV-K, Mike, if you want to look it up. N-Z-X-T-H-X-T-H-E-T-H-X-T-H-T-X-T-I-G-I-G-I-T-W-T-T-T-W-2012. Oh, yeah, 10 years ago, yeah. Yeah. So it's our return to the air cooler market. This one is a very modest air cooler as well. It's the T-120. You know, we have high-quality heat pipes.

I think they're made of bronze, but don't quote me on that. Copper, you know. Copper. Copper. Copper. Copper and bronze in my mind are the same thing. But they're not. It's just a decent CPU cooler. It looks very good, and it comes with an RGB fan, or if you don't want one, you can just get a basic non-RGB fan.

They're both high static pressure fans, and, yeah, it's just an air cooler for mid to, like, I-5, Risen 5, I-7, Risen 7. I've, um, Risen 7 type CPUs. And how many fans are included with the Q120? Just one. Just one.

One 120 fan. And you can install up to two, correct? Yeah. Actually, Mr. Matt Lee in his video installed two in. Yeah. Yeah. For those I haven't watched it, please go to Mr. Matt Lee on social media and YouTube and check out his

awesome video. He built in the new H5 and also with the T120. and he used all MacTua fans, which is really cool to see. Yeah. And Andy, for those that don't know, what is the difference between static pressure and airflow fans? Static pressures are designed for radiators, and airflow fans just move air a lot quicker.

I think it's just the basic gist of it, if I'm not mistaken. That's basically it. Static pressure is more focused. Yeah, it's meant. for radiators. They're meant for radiators. And I know we've made crackens for a really long time.

They're liquid coolers. So, you know, in your opinion, what's better? Air cooling or liquid cooling? I in 99% actually every, 99% of the builds I have made have liquid cooling.

To me, I like the look of liquid cooling better. And I, I, you know, I think you can push a little more performance out of it. However, oh, sorry, go ahead. No, but I've

warmed up to air cooling or cooled up to air cooling. When I installed an air cooler in a build I was doing for my mom's friend, it was like the easiest thing ever. And they require, less maintenance and if you're like the heat pipes don't really wear out you just put a new fan if something's wrong with it and you just set it and forget it and high-end air coolers still like

do a great job as well and they're more affordable so that's how about you Mike what do you think is better air cooling or liquid cooling I think I think uh um you kind of hit the nail out head is the pencil price point. I personally like water cooler because like I think aesthetically looks cooler, but I do know the price point of like an air cooler versus a water cooler much different. So in Rowdy, as long as it cools a CPU down, it's fine. It's really preference and budget. Preference of budget honestly is like majority, if not all of PC building in general.

So really it's 100% up to you. I personally like liquid cooling just because, you know, I've always had crackings in my cases. I've had, I had a crack in X53, and then an X63, and then now I have a Z73 white with the, you know, the AIO thing. So it's really 100% up to you, but they'll, as long as it cools your CPU down, that's all that matters, because those things get hot. Yeah, they'll both do a good job at cooling your CPU, but, you know, the science does say, or, show that liquid displaces heat much more efficiently than air. So a liquid cooler is going to have better performance. For me personally, I'm one of the weirdos that prefers air coolers.

I like the look of the like the big fan. Yeah, to me it looks like a little hot rod in my case. So I like air coolers. I'm excited to replace my cracking with the T-120 actually. I do see the appeal of this though. like, I mean, I'm showing Mr. Matt Lee's post again, like, of the knock, all the knocktoa fans with the air cooler,

it does look pretty cool. Like, all the fans on one line. Yeah. I, my, um, when I, the air, the air cooler I installed for my mom's friend was a knock two o one. And it was, it was, it was

super easy. I, like, I was just like, I got the build done in like less than an hour because I didn't have to deal with RGB and an air cooler because the air cooler, or sorry, liquid cooler because you have to like screw in the fans and wire up the RGB and put it in the USB

2.0 port and then make sure the SATA powers in and all this stuff. But with an air cooler is just like I mounted it and then latched on the fan and like put it in the fan in the header and called it a day.

I just realized I just realized Mr. Matt Lee missed a spot on the H5. You only had one fan on top. So we're going to have to make him redo this video and photo shoot. And we saw another Maxwell fan up top. Whoa, I didn't even notice that. I think it's because of the third bottom fan, which he did replace. So you probably maxed out on his fans because he had one, two, three, four, five, six, seven.

probably just needed that eighth one yeah seven he needs an eighth fan two fans on top with an air cooler is wrong is it is there an issue with having two on top like a 280 or 240 on top what was the question

Matt Matt goes two fans on top with an air cooler is wrong oh it probably looks weird because it's just it's just all fans from an aesthetic point of view yeah like it's just going to look funky like it's not going to be Yeah.

But, you know, there is an empty fan slot up there for you. Fans in front of CPU intake the... Oh, okay, I see. I see. Fans of front of CPU fan intake the price of cool. Oh, okay. That makes sense. In our review materials for the T1-2, or for the H-5,

we showed with an air cooler with no exhaust fans. It's just kind of a parallel thing. Air. I'm sure the performance. I'm sure the performance is going to be better the way Matt has it, but like, I'm one of the people that's like, oh, there was an empty spot in my computer case. I'm just going to put me in. We work here. We work here, so we care about aesthetics to some degree.

I was saying. I can fit a little tiny fan right here. Let me see what I can find. Yeah, that covers all the questions Mike and I had for you, Andy, on the H5 series in the T-120. but we do have a bunch of questions from the community that we want to ask right now. So the first one is from Chris the Gamer Dad. Any News? And when you'll have a Z790 board available?

We announced them along with B5B650E. There's so many letters and number combination. they should be available soon. If you need to build now, I wouldn't do it, but if you have some leeway and want to wait for that board, it's coming sooner rather than later. I don't know an exact date.

Yeah, and I know people hate that answer. Like, people complain a lot, especially on Reddit, like they're saying that it's really annoying that we can't just give them a date. And unfortunately, we can't. You know, I wish I could just say, you know, this Tuesday at 7 a.m., you can finally get this thing. But for now, the best we can tell you is we are coming out with them soon, TM.

And the best way to find out when they become available is to sign up for email alerts on that product page. So that once it does come in stock, you'll get notified and alerted so you know, oh, there's things available and they'll get it now. But I suck. I really do feel bad that I can't give people. that exact date, you know, but the reason why, sorry, the reason why we announced it is we wanted to let people know that, you know, we know there's new CPUs for both Intel and AMD, and we know people want to build with MZXT motherboards, so we just want people know, okay, well, we're making these boards, so hang tight while we get them out there. Yeah, I think at least with motherboard chipsets, it's better to be forthright that we have it

in existence instead of, like, like plain coil. Like, oh, do we have a board coming out? Oh, I won't never tell, like kind of thing. But yeah, just if you can wait, go wait. But if you want to build now, find a Z790 or Z790 motherboard that works for you. Bullet 10-Mule 8 asks, hey, I require that each of you three show me a glass or bottle of water to make sure that you guys are being hydrated. Oh, boy. There's mine. Mike showed his.

Andy. Have you had water today, Andy? No, I've been, me. I've woke up and been meeting since eight. You got to hydrate. I know.

Luigi. Luigi 509. Are all of you guys using an NXT capsule, Mike. Yes. Yes, we are. Yeah.

I'm running away. I was playing with some people and they know I worked for NXT and I was using a non-NZXT microphone and they're like you got to use the NZXC microphone and I'm like you know what you're right so I've been using it ever since it is very clear like I do get a lot of compliments on my nasally voice when you're sick they're like hey you sound extra nascently today what might be right the NGXT capsule thank you yeah I like it it's it no issues whatsoever and people don't complain

about my sound quality ever. I do, but a different story. But I don't talk to you all the time with the capsule. It's either on my... Oh yeah, Mr. Matley says, capsule sounds so good when Ivan sings.

Ivan, can you give us the test? Yeah, what, any request? Fly me to the moon. Fly me to the moon. That's all I got today. I'm sick. Nice. Oh, yeah.

I've been sick. Yeah, there's a lot of sickness going around. I know. Everyone, please. Wash your hands. Drink a lot of OJ. Please. Hydrate.

Whistler asks, will there be an H2 case? Who knows? Nothing has been confirmed or denied. Basically an ITX case, right? Oh, man, I don't. Okay, so nothing has been confirmed, nothing has been denied, but I will throw this out there. We had the H710, and then we made the H7, and we replaced the H7.

We have the H5,10. We made the H5, and we're replacing the H510. We have the age 210, and haven't done anything with that. So I'm not confirming, I'm not denying, I'm just throwing that out there for those conspiracy theorists who are listening. right now. I think it's just going to be tough just because of the GPU. So it's like having a ITX case, but with also having to be like like a rectangle instead because of these GPUs, it's going to be a little tough. We should really confuse people and then we should probably, we should make an H2 and replace the H210.

But then with the H1, we shouldn't, the next one should be the H110. And then we just start again. Now we're reverting back. Now that's said again. Everything is cyclical. everything is cyclical. Just keep changing the numbers back and forth to confuse people. Yeah, like 20, was it 2012 to 2020 was the 10 era?

Now 2020 to like 2025 was like, you know, H5, H2, 87, 81, and then after that now it's going back to the 10 era. Or maybe we'd just make it just 20. So, you know, H520, H720. That's actually a great segue into the next question from twin dad who asked. How did you take into a count? How many people would be confused with the H5 since H510 is a bigger number? So the reason for naming at the H5 is because we are trying to, believe it or not, make the numbers simpler and easier to understand.

None of us on this podcast here are responsible for deciding what those names are, but I'm sure the product team did take that into consideration. Me personally, I feel like I'm a big fan of naming product like without numbers. Like for example, the NZXT Manta, you know, or the NZXT Crackin, things like that. Like I prefer that, but I know the numbers also do make things simpler at times because not everyone is going to remember a name like Manta or Cracken, but a number could be easier. So I don't know. What do you guys think about that?

I think it's just a simpler naming skew. Instead of saying like H510, H210, like H310, like, it's just just the nomenclatures of especially computer products can just get way out there. I just bought a record player and it's like the Audio Technica, HB120, XB. and it's just like it's a bunch of nonsense so I'd rather just say like look on oh yeah literally as you're saying that

I'm looking up I guess I think everyone here knows about the infamous Sony names for products like well like my headset the XM 41000 XM3s or something like that right

yeah I have the XM 4,000 It's just, I don't know. It just, it just, it just, it just, it just, it just sounds like it's a robot. Like, I don't know. Yeah, here it is. Um, there is the CB 2000, DSCQX 100, H-I-HM-Z T1, uh, H-I-FD, HDVS, C-L-I-E-T-J, like, I think a lot of people get confused. Sony FDS

1-086-3H2-0-01 version 1-256 Like these are ridiculous And I think people tend to get confused By Sony products in general So if you just made it a simpler like Oh, this is just the Sony XM-4s They go, okay

But if they could have just done Sony X-4s I think it'd be just so much easier We even Um Um Even like iPhone names you kind of um like iPhone 10 14 15 16

and Samsung too with like galaxy and Google pixels like you get a point where there's just so many numbers after it it's just like it just gets a bit a bit much like I just prefer if like Apple for instance they do this with their computer just call the iPhone the iPhone

and then just define it by the year because instead of like iPhone 14 Pro Max like like just just call it by you know if you want to have a pro max variant that's fine but I like that actually from Coalition Game Crew like car companies so it's like

you know iPhone 2019 iPhone 2020 I actually really like that if you release something every year like you're or for sure releasing something every year doing it by like a car style which is like the name brand and then just year that makes it so simpler.

You know, you can have a Honda Civic, but then have like a Honda Civic 2020, a 2010, 2015, like you can have it. So as long as you release something every year, I think it's worth it. But yeah, that is the,

I think that's simplified a name just makes it a little easier. Yeah, 100%. Regm 902 asks, how many Funko pops can you fit inside the case? Have we tested for that? That seems like some quality content. I don't have two funco pops with me right now

One of them isn't even a funcopop is thrush What wait then like what are the parameters? It's like funco pops comfortably Funko pops fully built Just shove it as many funco pops as possible Like do you put it in the PSU shroud like It's like the interview question Is there 49 in the case?

Is there 499 in the case Because you may only fit like one In there? It's like the interview question where it's like how many tennis balls could fit inside like an airplane or something like that? You go, uh, what? It's the same thing. It's like, well, what's inside the case, you know?

Sanders, you ask, is the H7 with the bottom fan in your plans for the near future? Um, who knows? That's what I say. We're always evaluating our current product stack and seeing how we can improve. but I don't can confirm nor deny. Question from Bevan. The bottom fan is actually a great step in the right direction. Considering the increased thickness of modern cards

and how close they are to the PSU shroud, are there plans to include these in future cases too? We'll see. It depends on how the market trends, GPU sizes trends, and what you think is the need that we need to fill. People like that fair. Yeah.

It's interesting. It's a novel concept. I mean, it doesn't hurt. Yeah, it doesn't hurt. There's a space for it. Yes, you do kill three and a half drive support, but I don't know of many people that have more than one these days because M.DOT2s are so cheap and easy to make and fast.

And that's funny. go for it. No, it was the SAT of SSDs as well. Yeah, I know, I know people complain about the PSU shroud, and I was just like, I mean, at that point, would you really need to have, like, you know, six drives at that point, or, you know, like, at that point,

you probably going to need, like, if you're filling up six drives of, like, eight plus terabytes each or something like that, I think you may need a separate PC or, like, a server rate, a server at that point. Get a NAS. Exactly. I mean, the H7 has drive-based support.

I think it could probably do three. But, I mean, if mass HDD storage is what you need, then the H-5 is not your case. Mm-hmm. And it says we don't know what they need. Just not. We don't know. I mean, everyone's different, but yeah, like, you know,

some people are going to need it. Some people are art. But I think at the end of the day, it comes down to what, most people need. Yeah. Same way with like optical drives. NGXT was the first

computer company that removed the optical drive bay from a case. And when NGXT did that, everyone thought NZXT was crazy for doing so because everyone is still not everyone, but a lot of people were still using CD-ROMs to play video games. You know, and now,

you know, I doubt there's very many people that are using a CD to load up Modern Warfare 2 tomorrow. You know, I think it's, everyone's going to be using the internet. So I know some people are upset that that bottom fan removes some storage space. But most people are not going to be impacted by that. At puppy problems, but we're good.

Oh, Mr. Matt Lee. Ivan, Andy, Mike. Is your personal build, RGB or non-RGB? What was your preference and why? I've dergbed my computer. because I switch cases a lot and every time I switched I would forget to plug it back in

so all like RGB lighting and fans are now non-RGB but my RAM and graphics card has RGB so yeah they got two builds this is my work build right here let me show you guys

you guys see that you're listening live so my work build is but I always just said it on one color, which is purple. And my build at home is not RGB. And the reason is because my wife would not really appreciate having like this flashy computer just, you know, going off when she's trying to like, you know, beat the baby or something like that.

So I have that. the best of both worlds, I think. Yeah. Yeah, same thing as me. I used to have a ton of RGB, but then after living, sleeping in the same area as my PC, I tend to

turn off the RGB in general. So right now, the only RGB I have is my RAM and then the Cracken Z cooler. But in the new case... But in the new PC I'm getting, it's going to be like full RGB, like everything. Like, fans...

Be a lighthouse. Yeah. We actually posted a picture of it yesterday. Yeah. I'll show it real quick. Mike's going to have like the best computer. I got upgraded everyone. So I think,

4090. I'm pretty sure some people were here when I was doing the Spider-Mustime. I legit was having issues running it at 1080p. Like it was rough. Like I was like, my PC was straight up like dying. And I was like, well,

this isn't a good way to showcase Marvel's game. so this is my new PC we actually posted this we got a 4090 look at that's pretty dope yeah it's so cool and then this is all the fans and everything like that

that new H5 right here with the new fan lots of RAM so excited like I have no excuses to under form now like if I run into any issues that's on me

like that is 100% my fault but I am so excited because this is a huge upgrade from my current specs. Like my current specs right now is I7-9700K 2070. I only have 16 gigs of RAM

at 3,000 megahertz by the way, not even like 3,600, 3,000 megahertz. With Intel you're fine though. Yeah. Like it's more an AMD thing. Yeah, but this is going to be such a huge upgrade. So I want to say thank you to Ivan for like

helping me out with this. So and shout out to Loran. too for helping me with that. Oh yeah, he's in chat. Cool. Not enough RGP. They also left me surprise. They said there's a surprise and I'm worried.

I'm very worried. Like they're just, they're like, like a snake in a can. I don't know. Because then in the same chat, in the same chat that I was in, he goes, uh, Laura goes, hey, Ivan, open your door. And I got really worried. Like, I was just like, why? This is, this is, this is scary.

I opened the door and then he was standing there with the computer. and you've got to give Mike a surprise. So you're going to get a surprise with your computer, Mike. I hope the Cracken cooler is just replaced instead of the fluid, it's just thermal paste, so it just sounds like slush. Whatever the surprise is like it's the same exact specs of your current PC. Just, like, I wouldn't be sad. Like, it's still 2070, but like I need at least more to 16 gigs of RAM.

I think that's the issue that I'm running with. It's just, it's just a new case. Honestly, that wouldn't be bad idea. It's just, I don't have to replace my case. I had the old H510 flow. So just replace it with the H5Flow. Yeah, there you go. Easy.

Put toothpaste. We have someone building it for you too. So it's, it's doing a case transfer sucks. Yeah. Oh my God. That's, when I got the H5 flow, it's like, this is great. I'm so excited. And then I, in my head, I go, I have to basically rebuild the whole PC.

And you have to disassemble one PC And if you have like the crack in I think getting a new case is probably the most I think it What is the most difficult part of building Or replacing parts in PC? Like I think the GPU RAM that's easy But like the moment you have to do like a motherboard

Or motherboard or case Motherboard or case I think are just like That's it may be a power supply Because power supply If you don't cable managed well Could be a really ratsnetsdy kind of situation But I mean you it wouldn't be the worst thing in the world

because if you just, if you want to do it kind of the rough way just unplug everything and just go and then you know get the weird you know snaking out of the way but yeah I think

each Petty also brings it up when the motherboard has to come out it becomes a much harder task like the moment that you have to transfer all those like motherboard stuff the cable unplug all the cables or like just move the cables out and you have to transfer it or you just have to replace it it it just becomes a task.

I had a bad motherboard at work for the longest time and didn't want to replace it because it was such a task. It was such a task and it's just like I don't want to deal with this. So when I was gone, I asked the build team to help me to replace my motherboard with something. Oh God, I can't imagine that. more zippier pineapple I had a weird build

I had like an I9 and a 1050 I had a 1050 you had a really good CPU but your GPU was that what so I was building in the n7 Z390 and the

so the the card that gave me was a 1050 initially but I wanted to try out the new motherboard and we had a sample CPU just lined around which was the I9 but it was an interesting build because it could not load things fast at all

because the hard drive was on an HDD and it was a mess Oh, Coaster Fan also has a really good one I'll do this one last one before we move out to the next question is yeah, when you have to do a new CPU cooler but you're swapping backplates it's basically the same thing like that's basically the same thing you have to take it

the motherboard too so I feel you man My next question. I want to know what is a temperature difference between the H510 flow and the H5Flo? I think that's a hard question to ask depending on... Oh, your specs. Your specs. But they are better. There's a...

The reviews out there already with numbers, right? Yeah. Um... I think Tom's hardware and gamers Nexus have a comprehensive reviews. I would... I would go. go look over them because again, that's a hard question to ask.

I know it doesn't seem, it seems simple, but there's just so many hardware permutations and it's it's hard to say you're guaranteed five degrees better. It's going to depend on all the specs you have in there, how many, like how the fans are configured,

how the computers even place. You know, is it on the floor? Is it on the desk? Ambient temperature of your room? Yeah, where you live. So there's a lot that goes into. But overall, it is better. It is better. And you're going to pull it. Mr. Lucke wants to know, what's the best budget performance CPU and GPU combo out there right now, in your opinion?

I know people have said a lot of good things about the 13, the I-5-13. I don't know the nomenclature, because Intel is very complicated. nomenclature. But I think the 13, 500 something, let's say, the I-513th gen is really good. I would consider looking into that. And a 30-60 is pretty good too. I think if you had those two in a PC, you would be pretty happy. You'll be able to do pretty much everything with that. Yeah. I built, essentially, my friend was building a CPU, or CPU, a computer. And I recommended to her a Ryzen 5, 5600X and a 36 ETI. And it's a pretty good machine. She just plays Overwatch and really enjoys it.

So. When Dad wants to know, do you think Brick and Nick will win Lego Masters this season by building a giant poochie? So Brick and Nick, for those that don't know, is a Lego Master who's actually a guest on our podcast a while ago. I think it was two years ago now. Let me get the poochie that he made. Hold on. Oh, yeah. I have it somewhere too.

I mean, put the link in his thing. He actually put together the plans for this Lego Pucci here. And he's on his TV show now called Lego Masters, which is pretty cool. Doesn't Will Arnett host? I haven't watched it. I don't know. I had to disassemble mine during the move. So I had a disassemble mine because I didn't want to break it, break it.

So I disassembled mine. But I'll be making it soon. That seems like some good content. Oh, hey, P&W's in here. Hey, what's up? Oh, yeah. It seems like the good content. go for TikTok, Mike.

Yeah, you know what, I'll build this up real quick, and I'll tag brick and neck. I'll put that down real quick. Yeah. Macon's, I don't know if it's not really a question, but it's more of a comment on Andy's wardrobe. Something kills me about wearing long-sleeved hoodies,

but with shorts on, L-O-L. You know what? It's the California lifestyle, man. You know what's funny about that is I do that all the time and my wife hates it. She thinks I look like a... Why do you... Why do you us do that? If you're cold, hold on some, you know...

When I went to Disneyland, somewhat recently, I wore a long-sleevee short. It helps protect sun. You wrap your arms. Free sunblock. I mean the comfort thing. There's nothing more comfortable in the world than wearing a hoodie. Yeah. Yeah, I just felt like wearing a hoodie.

Yeah. And I honestly like the dichotomy of being hot and cold at the same time. There's something. Yeah. But like recently, I was just out and about and I wore like a jacket with sandals. Like live in my Linus life. Okay. That's weird.

Okay. That's a little. That's a little. Like I wear shorts and sandals all the time. But what we put a hoodie on with sandals? I'm like, okay. I just love my Birkenstocks and I got a new pair and I have to break them in. So I got some Birkenstocks.

I was in Taipei for CompuTechs for work. And then we were waiting in line at Dintai Fung because one of our coworkers was just taking us around. Then there was a Birkenstock store. Then I just bought a pair because I thought the exchange rate was favorable. but when I did the math, it was basically the same. So I was just... You get twice as much. Oh, yeah.

Are you wearing socks with the Birkins? No, I'm not that. Okay. That far gone. P&W, he's good. No, I just... I just... I just, just, just bare feet, bare feet.

We'll have to have you on the podcast again to talk about your outfits, Andy, but for now, we are going to wrap up this episode. Thank you so much for joining us and for answering questions about the H5 and the T-120. Before Mike goes into the announcements, is there anything you want to say? Let's see what I got. Also, please stay for the end of the podcast because there is a special giveaway, so please, please stay. Check out the H5.

I think it's a good case for most people. And that's it. And I got no sage advice like the last time because I talked about earthquakes. And there was one. There was one. And I heard there's this in California, there's like every time there's an earthquake, the scientist they always have on.

And I think she was like earthquake liaison for the governor at one point or whatever. Her name's Dr. Lucy Jones. And she always like explains what happened during an earthquake. And she said if you had that app, the My Shake app, you would have been warned. So hopefully you can save a life. Oh, Lauren just said this is the most special announcement, y'all, the mic rib is back. And back for the last time, apparently. Yeah, last time.

This is like the last time to ever get to do this, right? I saw a video on TikTok of them making McRibbs, and it was the weirdest thing on the planet. It's just like this weird meat that they put onto the grill. Then they, like, compressed it. Then they put it in a drawer with sauce with, like, the barbecue sauce. I don't think I've ever had a micrib. I just know how hype it is.

I've never had one. I had it once 10 years ago. And it was just, it was, it was a sandwich. I mean, it's more of a science experiment than anything. But you don't go to McDonald's for fine dining and... Don't do it. You just... You just go for McRibbs and Big Macs.

Yeah, you're not going to McDonald's for fine dining. You're just going in a pinch. All righty. I think we're going to announcements and then the special giveaways. so get ready y'all there's a lot of announcements so please please bear with us but there's something special at the end okay number one like we said h5 series has been released uh the h5 flow and delete our perfect mid-tower cases with a 280 millimeter support in both the front or sorry 280 in the front 240 on the top um and then along with a dedicated GPU fan on the bottom check it out uh i'll also put the thing in chat um

We also have some new canvas FHD monitors available in 25 and 27 inches, which include a 240 hertz refresh rates. Learn about the Canvas FHD monitors on our website, nzc.com. We have also announced two new motherboards, like we said, the N7Z790 and the N7B650E. They are not released yet, but we will be releasing them later. you can join the mailing list. If you go to the specific page and then sign up for the mailing list, you'll get an email whenever we release them.

Oh, yes, we are making a ton. We were releasing so many products. Like we said, with the air cooler, the H5 and the H7, mics, keyboards, canvas monitors, thermal paste. Check out a website nzacc.com to see what you get. Oh, also, for a limited time,

there is a special deal with Warhammer So if you guys purchase a select PC or select GPU with a PC You get Warhammer 40K Dark Tide Imperial Edition for free Just make sure that you check out the specific GPUs that it comes with We have many many many many beautiful people that are in our partner program And are still joining if you want to check it out Go to nzxti.com slash partner

partner and apply and best of luck to all y'all. Okay. That was all the announcements. Now we have two special things. I guess for now we'll do, do you want to do the podcast secret code first? Yeah, do the podcast code first. All right.

For those that are listening, there's a podcast secret code. If you go to the giveaway, there is a secret code available. That will give you 500 extra entries. This is a thank you for those that are staying here and listening in So thank you all for staying through this entire podcast The secret code is Happy Halloween

No spaces, happy Halloween Because Halloween is on Monday So we want to give a quick little happy Halloween to all y'all That is the secret code for the glean giveaway for the N66C swag For the hoodie, the shirt, the stickers, and lanyard That is 500 extra entries, secret code I'll do it one more time, secret code is happy Halloween.

Okay. That is the first, that is the gleam giveaway one. Now, we have a very, very fun giveaway coming out. This is basically only for the podcast listeners as of now, because we want to say thank you all for joining us today. So for those that are listening in, we are going to be giving away an H5 flow or elizabeth. of your choice.

All you have to do is take a pick of your case. Use the hashtag NZXT H5 and tell us why you want the want to upgrade. I'll go ahead post a link into thing. And for those that are listening is nzxte.co slash H5 giveaway.

No, no caps. NZXT.com slash H5 giveaway. Go to that link. Go for it. Do all that stuff. Will that work if I take a picture of my H5 flow still? Sure, Mr. Matley. Why not?

Go for it. Oh, is there a time limit on the gleam? Oh, so, well, the big announcement, the big, like, breaking news about this giveaway. So this giveaway is actually being officially announced tomorrow, but we are giving our live podcast listeners early access to it. So you guys can enter now, but because you are such loyal and loving listeners of ours, we're also going to give you all a secret word that you can get, not 500, but 1,000 bonus entries just for listening to this podcast. As a thank you for sticking around. So, Mike, do you want to drop in that code?

I will be dropping in the code right now. So like we said, this is specifically for podcast listeners as I thank you. or sticking around. Remember, this is a thousand extra entries. The highest one, which is submitting your photo, is 500. So this is a very special one. The secret code for the H5 giveaway, and remember, this is only for podcast listeners, is trick or treat. Again, another cute little happy Halloween stuff.

So there are two codes. I'll be posting both of them right now. Code for the podcast giveaway is Happy Halloween, and then code for the H4. five giveaway is trick or treat. Trick or treat. No spaces. T-R-I-C-K-O-R-T-R-E-A-T. This is a thank you to every single one of you guys for listening in and joining us.

We wanted to give a little, you know, it's just something as a thank you. It doesn't guarantee it, but heck, a thousand extra entries. I think everything you do there, like if you do all the entries, total to around 1,000 or so, this is an extra entry. So you basically get a second chance. You get basically a second full entry into this as I thank you for joining on the podcast. So thank you all for joining in. Like you said, podcast, Code to our podcast is Happy Halloween.

Code 4 to 8.5 giveaway is trick or treat. All right. And I think that is it for announcements. Anything else remaining? No, I just want to thank everyone for tuning in. Thank you, Andy, once again, for joining us. Can't wait to have you again, talk about your wardrobe. Yeah, next week, apparently.

I'm kidding. You'll get an Andy break. You'll get an Andy break. Honestly, Andy, Andy is basically a co-host at this point. It make me co-host. Good. Do it.

Take my job, I quit. All right, I think that is it. So thank you guys all for joining us. Remember, tune in live every Thursday at 10 a night, Pacific Center time on the official NCC Twitch. And don't forget to listen to previous episodes on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcast, Spotify, and SoundCloud. please leave us a positive review if you like what you hear

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