NZXT PODCAST - #151 - Gaming Hot Takes

Episode Date: March 24, 2023

On this week's episode of the NZXT Podcast, we read your HOTTEST gaming takes. From which console is best to if a game really is "mid", we read the spicy takes YOU gave us! Tune in live every Friday at 10AM PT on twitch.tv/nzxt and send your questions to: [e-mail]

Hello, everyone, and welcome to episode 151 of the NZT podcast, the official podcast of the NZXT community. This podcast is recorded live every Friday at 10 a.m. Pacific Standard Time on the official NXT Twitch and is available to stream on demand on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Spotify, and SoundCloud. My name is Mike. It's me as always. Is Ivan. How are you doing, Ivan? Doing great, Mike. Happy to be here for NZXT podcast number 151, which also happens to be the the number of your favorite drink, right? 151. Is that true?

151? I mean, it's okay. It is also 151 of Pokemon, which I use for my intro, which is fun. Oh, nice. I also see you have a new background there on your stream. I don't want to docks you, but I guess you're in a new location, right? Yep, new apartment, new everything, new setup. up. I like it to set up more because in my old apartment, my bed was literally like right here.

But now I have a whole like area just for my for my desk. The bedroom's like on the other side, which is nice. Nice, nice. Yeah, well, yeah, so today's podcast episode is another very special one. But before we get into that, I do want to let everyone know who's tuned in live that we are doing a giveaway. So if you type explanation giveaway in the Twitch chat, you will get a link where you can sign up for that. And if you stick around to the very end of the podcast, you will get a secret word which gives you bonus entries to the giveaway. And it will increase your chances of winning. So today's podcast is about gaming hot takes. Earlier in the week, we asked our community on Twitter to share their controversial opinions about video games.

And we got a lot of replies. How many replies did we get on there? Oh, close to like 400, I think. 400? Yeah, we've got a couple hundred people giving us some hot takes. So we're going to go through those hot takes. But before we go through those hot takes, Mike, I want you and I to each share one hot take about video games. And I'll let you go first.

Oh, yeah. I wrote it down. Let me try to find it because I was between two of them that I remember. Oh, okay, yeah. Yeah, so I think we may be a little biased because we are a PC company, but my hot take is the only console. If you already have a PC, the only console that you ever really should get is pretty much a switch. The only console I've ever had after I went from Xbox, PlayStation 4, and the PC.

The only consoles I've consistently got is Nintendo products, the only consoles. You know, I don't understand there's PlayStation. exclusives. I know there's Xbox exclusives, all like that, but like, majority of time, those exclusives tend to come onto PC no matter what. Like, Last of Us. Like, Last of Us is coming on to the Steam Store. You know, it was a PlayStation exclusive for so long, and now it's going to come into the actual Steam store soon.

So, most of the time, I think Nintendo's probably the only way to go. Yeah, that's a... That is a hot take. I'm sure not everyone agrees with it. I actually agree with that hot. take myself because I feel like Nintendo

has a bunch of games that you can't get anywhere else. Primarily the Nintendo games, obviously, right? And I love Nintendo games. Like, I love Mario Brothers. I love all that stuff. So to me, yeah, I have a Switch at home.

I don't have a PS5. I don't have a Xbox. And I agree. Like, it makes most sense if you have a computer to get a switch, because, like you said, most of the games that are on Xbox and PlayStation, you can play on your PC, right? But that is not so true. That's not true with the Switch.

Like, a lot of the games on Switch, you can't play anywhere. It's a hot take, but it's also one that I agree with. You want to hear my hot take? I'm curious if you agree with mine. I know, I know yours. I know yours. Yeah. I told you my hot take earlier and you almost punched me in the mouth, right?

Yeah. Anyway, my hot take is I think micro transactions are actually good for video games. And my reasoning for that is because, you know, when I play a video game and I like the game, I have no problem whatsoever forking over money to unlock things. Like, you know, I realize not everyone wants to do that, and I realize not everyone agrees with that. But for me, if I like the game, you know, I'll put $100 in there and I'll just buy some packs or I'll unlock skins. I'll buy coins. I'll buy emeralds.

I'll buy all that stuff because for me, it makes the game more fun. And I feel like having, having skins. and, you know, buying things that are not necessarily required for the game, you know, it's a choice. You don't have to do it, right? Which is another reason why, like, I feel like micro-transactions get a lot of hate.

You know, you don't have to, if you don't like it, you don't want to do it, don't spend the money. But me personally, I have no problem dropping an extra cash and getting some sweet skins. The one thing, though, that I did, don't like is if it's pay to win.

That I don't agree with. I don't think you should have to pay in order to win any video game. Like the winning should still be, you know, either luck or skill. I don't think it should be because you spend more money. But when it comes to cosmetics and, you know, unlocking things that make the game more fun, I'm all for it. There you go. Yeah, that was what I was going to say is when it's paid.

to win. You know, I know a lot of card games that are basically paid to win, you know, in order to get, you know, to complete a complete, like free to play games are difficult because, especially in card games, you need a deck. In a certain way to get deck is to open boxes. And in order to do that, you have to, what's just skins? Oh, who cares? You know, like League of Legends, Overwatch, it's just all skins, you know, it's all

cosmetics there's no gameplay change or anything like that that's fine i that's you you're more than welcome to do that honestly that's fine um you know but the moment that you physically change the gameplay because of the transaction because you know someone you know five dollars for a kid

is huge but five dollars for us may not be as bad um that's that's that's when i will be like now you can't do that Yeah. When they boast that they're free to play, but the only way to actually do well in the game is to pay extra. Yeah, there's a line for sure. Yeah.

But anyway, Mike, let's go into the Twitter replies. And let's just read off what people have to say and see what people think about them. What's the first one? Oh, this is from Sky, who actually works for us in customer service. Having the best specs for games does not make them better at the game. it just means they now suck in 4K We actually made a tweet about this the other day Or not the other day, but like a while ago

It was like having a really good PC Or no, going like zero and 10 Sad face Uh Getting a new PC Happy face And then just going zero and 11 Sprawny face like

Yeah Doesn't mean anything Yeah and that's a pretty good hot take Because there are a lot of people Who Who would think, you know, just because you have a better PC, you're going to be better at the game. But, you know, a skill issue will always be a skill issue. I mean, you get good, right?

A good example is that, like, from, you know, when I used to, on Fortnite, you know, the first couple seasons when everyone played Fortnite, you know, all my friends played PC. And technically, based on console, because I play it on PS4, technically by specs, the PCs should automatically dominate. nominate the PS4 in every which way. However, when we played Fortnite, I was consistently one of the best because I just got used to controller and understanding how it worked. Oh, my God. So specs don't mean it. I can't even imagine playing Fortnite with a controller, man.

It's honestly, I've seen more on any, that's also a hot take ice you see one here about controllers. Using a controller, honestly, is actually much better than keyboard. It's some circumstances like, uh, I don't know what FPS game. man. Witcher 3, I know. I could only play that on a controller. I could not play that on a mouse and keyboard.

I mean, I have no problem to play with a controller, but an FPS game, I can't do it, man. Yeah, that's like, you know, like you said Fortnite on the controller, it just seems like torture to me. Mm-hmm. Next hot take here is from, I awaken.

they say Advance Warfare was an awful Call of Duty I don't know I feel like you like Advanced Warfare I feel like Call of Duty is one of those games where you either love it

or you hate it there's like no in between it's like there's no one that just says like yeah it's a pretty okay game like it's either you play it like mad and go ham on it or you just trash it for whatever reason.

And I don't know. I have played advanced warfare. I think it's fine. I'm not a, you know, a big call of duty player myself. But I know, like, a lot of people do hate that game for some reason. Yeah, it definitely wasn't the best. I mean, like, Black Ops, Black Ops 2, you know, Modern Warfare 2, Mono 4 3. Like, we're really good.

But, like, Kahn itself is, after. like that little golden era of cod i really it was really tough for me to get back into it after knowing some amazing amazing games that you know i personally played uh i like a lot of story rich single player games um looking through those and then going through cod and like why did i play that when i could have literally gone like one of the best story modes last of us you know an amazing game you know uh orient abide forest star do valley like i actually really like these type of games like I've you know I and I used to be one of the biggest

FPS players I still am an FPS player but I mean caught after a while I kind of just died off yeah um I do like this next hot take mic yeah from I don't even know how to say tito gian sante I from tito yank tito tito jante yeah in the age old pc versus console wars no one mentions the advantage consoles have of not having to deal with those annoying

game launchers this okay i have i love that i have two i have two things about this one and i can definitely break down one this is the this is the uh thing for me like this reminds me of like the people that complain about like having too many choices and why don't we just go back to cable it's like no you have these choices so that you can play anything you want you're not stuck to just one thing the game launchers is like minimal

the second thing that I'm breaking down though is although you may not have these game launchers how many times do you go into a new area and you have a loading screen for me specifically Skyrim on my PlayStation versus Skyrim on my PC, nine and day difference.

Like, this guy talks about time is money. However, the loading times in certain games, like big open world games, where you literally just run into a new area and you can just get a loading circle. And then you can play versus PC where it's almost automatic. Yeah. You can't, you can't beat that. Yeah. I do, I do find, like having a bunch of game launchers very, very,

annoying like when you have steam epic origin whatever you know there's like a bunch of different game launchers and it does get a little annoying you know to have to like remember where am i playing this game again uh let me open up this launcher and you know it it would be a lot easier if everything was just like you know one thing which i guess on the pc you can resolve but just making a desktop shortcut and then never have to worry about you know, what launchers are going to open what, but it is, I think they bring up a good point,

you know, like, the console is much simpler. Yes. You know, like if you have an Xbox, a PlayStation, the Nintendo, you know, you just, you open it and click on the game, and then there it's the game. You don't have to worry about opening up

a game launcher and things like that. So I like that hot take, because I agree. I find game launcher is annoying. I wish it was just like, you know, one game app on my PC for every single game I play it's not super complicated though like I said if you use to make a desktop shortcut

and boom never have to worry about it again yeah and I agree with that consoles is the main thing consoles I by the way ex a day the main thing of consoles is that it's simple you don't need like a PC what do you need you need the actual PC itself

you need a monitor you need a desktop hold a monitor, you need a keyboard and mouse, you may need a headset with a mic or a mic that's separate. Then, you know, you got to, you know, do all this extra stuff. Console, all you need is either an HTML or a displayport cable, play into a TV, and the control automatically comes with the thing and you're done. That's it. That's all you need.

You don't even need a headset, you know? Like, that right there is the amazing part about consoles. And that's one thing that I think PCs can't break down. Yeah. It's a lot easier. We have another Call of Duty hot take here from S.J. Foster Sound.

They say Black Ops Cold War has the best campaign in the Call of Duty series. What do you think about that one? Cold War is okay. I honestly, that's I don't think that's a good take.

Black Ups 1, Black Ops 2, Black Ups three, uh, sorry, black was one to blockups two. And then modern warfare, modern warfare two, model warfare three outshine Cold War by all,

by all means. I agree with this one. It even was ratioed a little bit. This one I agree with that. The one was good. Don't get me wrong. It was still amazing campaign. But like compared to the other ones,

modern warfare, the advanced modern war, uh, non-advented war war, like the re-additioned, uh, modern warfare campaign, um,

for both modern warfare, two and the most recent one. Oh my God. 10 out of 10. Like it literally like it's, it's amazing. So much more realistic than So many

Call of Duty hot takes. Yeah, I mean, Call of Duty is one of the biggest games of all time. Oh, this next hot take is good. This one. I actually, man like Jack X. Using a controller on PC FPS is worse than having a console

itself. Well, this is actually a hot take because of I think it was Apex Legends was the main thing there are people in there's professional gamers hello for Norway, happy Friday, hello for the US there is a huge controversy oh no it's Halo and Apex

that professional professionals like professional gamers in this in this game they would switch like they have spent their entire lives on mouse and keyboard they would physically switch from mouse and keyboard to controller because the aim assist in the controller

is basically like having the best aim you can ever have there's people that literally switch from that because amassist is so good yeah and that's why I like this hot take actually because like when it comes to FPS games

there is nothing more accurate than a keyboard and mouse think about it like even without an FPS game like if you just look at a monitor and there's like a dot in the middle of the monitor it's way more easy to just put your cursor on that dot with your mouse than it is if you had

a joystick or a thumbstick whatever you want to call it from a controller, moving it on there. And the reason is because when you have your hand on the mouse, you know, you have five fingers in your hand. You have all those muscles and your arm as well,

moving the mouse. It's way more accurate, right? You have a controller. You literally just using your thumb to do the same thing. So it's nowhere near as accurate as a mouse. And then the whole thing with Amos, I think if you're playing an FPS game, it's fine.

Like, if you want to use aim assist, but it also kind of defeats the purpose. Like, the example you gave, if you're playing competitively, if you're, like, a professional, like, e-sport athlete, like, I feel like aim assist is cheating, you know? I do think you should not be allowed to have any sort of advantage over other players just because you're playing.

on a controller. I don't think it's fair at all. And not everyone agrees, so I think that's why that's a really good hot take. But I agree with this hot take, man. It's if you're if if you're playing an FPS game with a controller on a PC, it's like, you know, you're kind of defeating the purpose of having a PC, you know. I think it's it's a little it's a little weird in my opinion to do that. I like that hot take. That's a good one. From Noah.

Noah Liles 97 says, it's easy to game on Nintendo Switch instead of having a gaming PC. Well, I mean, I guess you can say that for any console, because you can just, you know, buy it and plug it into your TV. turn it on and start playing right away versus a PC. You know, you might have to build it.

You know, you're going to download a launcher, install a game and all that. So it's a little bit different, but I don't think it's that hard to game on a PC versus a Nintendo Switch. But maybe the Nintendo Switch

is like the most noob-friendly out of all consoles. Because even my five-year-old daughter, you know, she started to play the Nintendo, she can turn it on and pick her games and, you know, she can load up Peppa Pig on her own. And she has no clue how to turn on my computer and install a game, right? So, yeah, I mean, not that hot. Yeah, it's not that hot.

I mean, the Nintendo Switch is made for, I mean, what, what's the ESRB, 10? I don't know. You can be 10 years old and play it. So, I mean, it's kind of supposed to. Does my 5-year-old daughter break it a lot? Technically, yes. From Ariel Fox. Oh, hey, I've seen her strings before.

Fortnite is actually good. Yes. Well, only in certain aspects, the no build. And did you see the Fortnite 2.0? I did. It looks pretty cool. It's insane with what people are doing with only. It's literally you can, it's going to be, have you ever played Gary's mom?

Yeah. Yeah. I think it's literally going to be the next Gary's mom. in that type of aspect, just a console. Is that what you can do? I feel like Fortnite is a good game, but like you said, when Fortnite first came out, and, you know, I was...

When Fortnite came out, I was... That was like when I was still addicted to CSGO, I think. So I didn't really give it... The chance, I think, that I should have, because when I first came out, I was like, number one, this looks too cartooning. Mm-hmm. Like, this just looks like a cartoon.

Like, CSGO's... realistic combat, you know, and I didn't like that. I just thought it was too cartoony. And then when I started playing it, it was like, I hated the building aspect of it. It was so frustrating to lose to someone that was just good at building but bad at shooting, but they can beat you because they're good at building. So I gave up on it pretty quickly. But I did try playing it.

Not that long ago, minus the building. And it was fine. It was fun. It's a good game. I can see why people like it. And I know it gets a lot of hate because a lot of kids play it. But I do think it is a good game. I like the no build.

The no build mode, please, yes. Have you seen those, like, crazy tournaments where, like, the kids literally just, like, building, like, skyscrapers and everything like that? We're just too crazy. Too way too much. much, way too much. Nobody remember it's crazy. Yeah.

I remember when we were sponsoring Ninja. Yeah. We had this event and I got to play Fortnite with Ninja. And I just remember I was sitting next to him

and I was just watching how fast his hands and fingers were moving and just looking at his monitor and seeing him build. And I was like, look, Dan, there's like no possible way any human could beat this guy since that's Fortnite.

he was just a maniac man building and yeah I think that's I mean that's part of the game right like if you if you really want to

get good at building you can but yeah I didn't like it myself it was really annoying yeah geek things yeah there's the no build mode is the only reason why a lot of people like Ninja went back to Fortnite

is because a no build and I just want to show this off just like, just like how fast these guys, like, do this stuff. Like, look at this. Yeah. That's. Like, I, I can't even, I can't even figure out, like, half the things that this guy's doing. Yeah.

It's just too much. It's just so much going on. Just like, look at, look at how, look at what he's doing. I can't even keep up. Oh, my gosh. I can't even keep up with that. Yeah. Let's see.

From Kevin Spend as much as Tim to Tapma did on a TV But on PC parts and barely break 90 FPS in most games How much did you spend? Yeah, how much did he spend on a TV? 10K on a TV Oh my Lord That must be a nice TV

Because I'm looking for a new TV And I'm shocked how cheap they are now Yeah, I bought my 65 inch for like 500 bucks Yeah You know back then a TV was like $1,000 and you get like 20, 30 inches and so big beefy ones, now they're like thin as heck.

Yeah, my TV just died not that long ago and I bought it eight years ago for $1,000. It was a 55-inch vizio. Now that's a TV now it's like 250 bucks.

So I don't know what TV to the Tapman bought, but $10,000 I mean, you must have bought like you know like a stadium like a cowboy stadium size type of TV yeah

that's a lot of money to spend on TV oh yeah Smith Casey says console is greater than PC gaming by far that is a very hot take I don't know

I mean it just depends the games you play and how you play them right like I mean, I don't know It's kind of like comparing Apples to oranges, to be honest, because

They do different things, right? Yeah. Like, there's no doubt that a computer runs games better. Yes. Smoother. Yes.

The performance is unmatched. Like, a computer by far is better than a console. However, I can also understand why someone would say, like, nah, like Xbox is better than PC because of this reason, or PS5 is better than PC for this reason, or Nintendo is better than PC for this reason. But I don't know. I don't agree with this hot take, because, you know, you can't just deny the fact that a computer runs games better than any console. like and it's always been that way and it always will be you know i agree yeah yeah i mean it's just pros and cons there's tends to be more pros for PCs but the cons for console or so the pros for

consoles are unmatched you know the ease of it you can transport it way easier you just most people have a tv in your house and all you need is just to hook it up and you're done like that is you can't beat that but i like you said that that PCs tend to be better, but there's also big pros of it. PC's not better at a console if the user's not willing to keep up with updates, optimizations, etc. Yeah, it kills in the night. It makes, yeah, you know, if you, the consoles will pretty much auto-update for you. You know, you have to update some certain games in order to play it, but on the other hand, I also, it's just kind of like a car, you know, it's like you can say

one car is better at the other, but if one car is maintained better and other ones, you know, on its wheel, wheels, you know, not able to, you know, actually go anywhere. Then, yeah, obviously, one car is going to be better. But I just think that as long as you take care of each other, like, it's fine. You know, you know, I still love consoles. I still love my switch, you know. And when I play on my friend's Xbox, I still have a good time. Also, PC auto, yeah, yeah, you do need to be speakers.

You do need to spend extra on speakers compared to, like, TV. I mean, PC is way, I mean, it's, it's way more expensive. a console for sure. But it's also better. I mean, there's nothing wrong with consoles though. Like Mike said, we both have consoles, but we also have PCs

and the difference is night and day. I mean, it's like once you I feel like once you experience what it's like to play on a PC, you can't go back. I mean, you can't go back. It's just that it's, can't deny the fact

that it's much better. than a console. It just is. I agree. No. And, you know, all that being said,

you know, I still turn on my switch and play Peppa Pig sometimes. Yeah. Without being wrong with the consoles. Exactly.

The next hot take here is from Hollywood 95. They say, The Horizon series, the Last of Us series, and Forspoken All Mid. Ooh. That is a hot.

Yeah, that is a hot take. I don't know. I don't... What do you think about that, Mike? Hi, PNW. I don't know about Forspoken Horizon. I didn't play Horizon Zero to On that much.

I didn't play Forspoken too much. But Last of Us, Last of Us One is honestly a masterpiece, in my opinion, because the story is amazing. The gameplay is unique. You know, it's not like any other campaign you can play. So I think The Last of Us shouldn't be on this. I'm not sure about the other two, but honestly, some people didn't enjoy it. Last of Us, too, I think, really spoiled a lot of people's taste in it.

But Last of Us One, you can't deny, was amazing. You can't, you can't deny that. I'll give you a bonus hot take on this. The Last of Us TV show is mid, in my opinion. Why is it mid? For the simple fact that it's too long. Like, it's way too long, man. Like, the first episode was, like, almost two hours long.

And I feel like that same story could have been an hour, if not shorter. Episode two, very little action was kind of like, I don't know. I feel like the show could be three minutes long and get the point across. I don't have time to sit there for two hours and watch one episode bad. It's too long. And for me, that makes it mid. I know it's probably not a good reason. I know I don't agree, but that's why these are called hot takes.

My hot take is if it's too long, I'm not going to watch it. I agree it's mid. I love Pedro Piscall. He's a great actor. I love his memes. But, yeah, I can't get into that show. Yeah. I mean, I have a friend that literally has the same as that.

viewpoint as you. You know what he also said because it was too long? That he said it was awful? Lord of Rings. He physically said Lord of the Rings was too long. I didn't watch it. It's awful. And I learned, everyone at our table just went,

what? He's like, yeah, it was too long. I couldn't get into it. And we all just looked and we were like lower Langerly like created a majority of all the fantasy tropes that anyone has ever done.

Anything that you've done, you've seen, it's pretty much like Lord of Rings is one of the first ones. He's like, nah, it's too long. And I'm just like, hmm, that as much as I understand how long it is and sometimes it can be drawn out. Like there's a, what movie? Avatar 2. It was such a long movie.

Yeah, you know, you can have that criticism. But it shouldn't be the main reason why it's bad. It should not be the main reason. So, I mean, the reason why for me personally, what I think being too long is bad is because I don't have that much time anymore, man. I have two kids, right? So by the time I'm done working, by the time I'm done having dinner,

playing with the kids, you know, taking them to their dance class, whatever it's got to do, even in their bath, bringing them into sleep and all that stuff, I literally have, like, one hour to, like, do something, you know? And if I want to watch a show

and this show is like each episode's two hours it's just too long I don't have that time so that's why for me like length does play a role in it like you know I know that's not the best reason in the world but that's a fact and um you know like I

understand why someone would be turned off by something that's too long I didn't always feel that way like there was a time where you know I would be on my PC all day at work and then I would go home and turn on my PC and play video games long night and, you know, watch movies or whatever.

And now it's just like, okay, I only got an hour. What am I going to do? And then, you know, watch half the last of this episode. It's not going to happen. I like Coalition Chris's. So length does matter. Got it. I also like Coalition Chris's comment about Clerks 2 because,

believe it or not, I am a Clerks 2 fan. Average Clerks 2 fan. I see how it is. You know, the only reason I'm a Clerks 2 fan is because they filmed part of that movie where I grew up at the restaurant was a Burger King by my house. Oh, really? That's cool. I remember when they were filming it. I actually got to go check out some of the filming. So that's the only reason I'm a Clerks 2 fan.

I prefer Clerks 1. The Neely Clerks is horrible as well. I didn't like that. But, uh, clerks two I can't get down with just because I was there. I saw it happen, man. I actually, you know what?

I want to bring this up to chat as well. It's not a hot tape. I'm actually just questioning. Has there been any show, movie, game, anything, any sequel that was as good, if not better than the first? Because every single time I think of like a second thing, like a second episode, So the second thing, it's never as good as the first. Everyone's like, it's never, it's not as good as the first.

Never as good as the first. I can think of two examples. Terminator 2. Terminator 2. Oh, okay, that's a good one. Okay, that's a good one. And Godfather 2. Oh, okay.

Okay. Yeah, okay. I'll give you that one. Okay. What about Star Wars, though? Yeah. Empire Strikes Back. Empire Strikes Back, yeah.

You know. because the first one you know the first movie I know everyone did not like and then the four in the original trilogy is you know it basically just kept stacking onto each other just got better so

gremlins too I never seen gremlin so I don't know I have it Grimli is awesome I know of gremlins like I know of it but I just never physically watched it you know so I know of it though because my parents watched it

you got homework now I got homework I also I didn't know about the feeding after midnight and wet something like that. Yeah, that's the best part, dude. John Wick 2. T2 was 80s, 90s kids, Holy Grail. Yeah. Okay, so there are, how about games?

I've been there in games that were better than the first? I don't really think so. Dark Souls 2? Yeah. Street Fighter 2? Street Fighter 2 is better than part 1. Okay. Okay.

But those are easy, though, kind of. Mario Brothers 3 That's better than one and two Mario Brothers 2 What was Mario Bros 3 again? It's not, Mario Brothers 2 is not even a real Mario Brothers. Yeah, that's why I was remember. Oh, yeah, it was the fact, yeah,

Mario Bros. 3 is amazing. Yeah, Mario Brothers 3 is the best one in my opinion. Okay. Okay, so there are better ones. Okay. Yeah, there's some good ones. Halo 2, I think, maybe, yeah, that's a good one. Toki, dokey panic. For sure, Street Fighter 2.

For sure, Street Fire 2. better too. In my opinion, HAL-3 was probably one of my favorites of all time. So, okay. All right. So people are, okay, so there are decent sequels because, you know, every single time he always asked someone like, oh, you know, oh, it's not as good as the first. Like, that's such a common phrase, right? It's like, oh, it's not as good as the first one, but it's not bad. You know, it's always that. Counter-Strike 2 is better than Count of Strike 1. CS2 coming out. I've actually re-downloaded. It's Counter-Strike just for it because I want to

play it again. Yeah, I remember I gotta download that. Red Dead 2. Oh, that's, ooh, that's a good one. Red Dead 2, I think, outbeats Red Dead 1. Oh, I don't know. Red Dead 1 had an undone nightmare. That was an amazing.

That was an amazing DLC. They had to do anything like that, Red Dead 2. Yeah, RD2's awesome. I'll give you that. Okay. Did you want to see this? Back to the Hot Takes, Mike. What have you got?

From Rob Dizzle, 63. I make fun of this meme a lot. I make fun of people they do this all the time I hate this game and stop playing it Angry Phase I have

so many friends that play you know games like League of Legends Destiny Valoran Call of Duty you know

all these games were oh Apex especially Apex Overwatch yeah Overwatch as well that will consistently play the game

they hate it the entire time they are literally screaming or they're like God, you know, they're off, they're feeling awful.

Then I go, why don't you play a game that you want to play? They're like, no, what? You're weird, you know?

Like, I'm like, am I the weird one? Why do you think that is? I always equated to the sunk cost fallacy. Um, you know, you spent so much time and effort,

money into the game. So you'll continue to play it, um, no matter what. Some people's, you know, careers are based on it, especially streamers,

you know, that they, they just had to continue to play it. I don't Ninja basically stopped liking Fortnite for so long and got burnt out of it because, you know, his entire career was about it. But I know everyone hates basically, like, there's so many people that I would hate the game, but they'll still play it just because they spend so much time into it.

Yeah. I think people might be, like, at least for me, like, there was a point where I really hated CSGO, but I kept playing it just because I was. addicted to trying to like rank up um you know i was addicted to uh to uh gambling my skins and unlocking knives and you know things like that so i don't know i think if it's a good game it kind of hooks you and even if you hate it it's just there's something about it that just keeps you hooked yeah it's like you still love the game but it's still it's but it's just like you know like if you are getting to the point where it's like you're breaking things like you physically break controllers

you break your keyboard you know you start punching things like maybe you should try a different game yeah there it is there kielsen and i has the this exact thing that i was thinking about it's difficult to extract yourself from a gaming landscape once you insert a certain amount of time some cost fallacy literally you know you spent so much time and effort so the moment you pull out you just wasted all that time, energy, money into the game. Yeah, maybe that's why I just feel like you're kind of obligated to continue

with it. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. I was thinking this next one is going to be very a good hot take. What is it? Go for it. Okay. From Chabigelbosk. Oh, sorry. The

Lobowski, Chabig-Labowski, I think. Xbox and PlayStation are unbelievably bland consoles. At least Nintendo tries to do things different, even if their consoles aren't the most powerful. Someone to comments to 720 AP, barely at 60 FPS. Nintendo failed, in my opinion. Usually a whole different generation behind

just so they can give you low-quality cases stick drift. Fun though. Okay. That's funny. What is your opinion? I have an opinion about this. What's your opinion on this? So for me, my opinion is that I think Nintendo, their consoles have always been about having fun, right?

Even like the original Nintendo, I mean, they had like a power glove, a gun, right? And then the Super Nintendo, you had the Super Scope. The GameCube, you know, just the way it looked with like being translucent, things like that. you know, the Wii with the Nunchuk, the Switch, obviously, with the joycons, and the portability of it. Like, for me, like, Nintendo consoles have always been different, you know, and, like, they've always been, like, really fun. Like, it's just, they bring something that Xbox and PlayStation have never been able to replicate, in my opinion. Yes. Which is, like, this fun thing.

This whole fun aspect. Like gaming aside, it's just fun to own a Nintendo because of all these other little things that go along with it, right? PlayStation Xbox have always been more about, like, you know, performance, I guess. Or even, like, trying to replicate some of the things a PC can do. Like, you know, you can watch Blu-rays on this thing or whatever, but okay, whatever. Cool. But Nintendo's always been different. And I agree with this hot take, but I'm not going to say Xbox and PlayStation are bland.

I would say, like, just Nintendo is very different from Xbox and PlayStation. And for me, like, you know, that's one reason I have a switch and I don't have an Xbox for a PlayStation. I do want a PlayStation, though. I do want to play MLB The Show 23. I hate that it's not on PC and I hate I hate playing it on the Switch It's like it runs really bad

So yeah I agree with this hot take I just don't like the way it's worded Yeah the way it's worded Yeah I 100% agree with what you said Nintendo is about being fun And being about in it being innovative I pulled up the list of

Every single console that Nintendo has made You know they had their old color TV And the NES S&ES You got the GameCube The GameCube I think the controllers There's by far one of the best parts about it. Like, look at all the buttons.

It was very weird to play, you know, like, you know, you had to have one hand on the bottom and play like that. I understand that was a weird problem, but the Wii, nothing was like that. Nothing in the entire world could beat the we during its time of 2006. Like, nothing could beat that. The Wii was everyone's house.

The Wii, you, not good. However, the Wii you later became the Switch, which basically here in the hyper consoles is the switch amazing literally great but I think

who said it in the chat yeah from ummituk umituk I think I'm not sure if I spend essay um they said

the thing that I was thinking of they were unbeaten and handheld consoles like the PC the PSP someone says the PSP came out 18 years ago for foggy trade that's crazy

because I used to have a PSS but the only handheld console that I'll always continually have is Nintendo. Omituck. Thank you. Sorry. Like, you can't have it. The Game Boy, the Game Boy advanced,

the Game Boy SP, the Nintendo DS, the 3DS, and then the Switch. Did you ever try the Atari Links? No. I did play on the Virtual Boy. I did play on a virtual boy.

It hurt my eyes. The black and red was really awful. But that... Nintendo's always... Nintendo's always done their thing different, which... Like, who said it here in the chat? Night modem says,

even if you don't prefer Nintendo, they deserve a lot of respect for what they do. And, yeah, like, they do, man, because they bring something to the table that you can't get on a console or a PC. You know, and you can't say the same thing about PCs and consoles. Yeah.

For me, specifically, I see Killsonite says that they never own a handheld. For me, the reason why I got to gaming was, you know, I traveled a lot. You know, I would go to school, I'll drive to school, I'll take the bus. You know, I go to sports or go to practice or, you know, go hang out with friends. I'd always be traveling. And, you know, this is a time where, like, not many games were on the phones, you know? Like, I was still growing up and iPhone was just. introduced in that area.

But the only way to play games, really, was to have a handheld console, a D-D-S, or sorry, DS, a Game Boy. And I play Pokemon religiously because of that. And that was with the main reason why I got into gaming. So, and I agree, you know, if you don't prefer it, you still have to give them respect because they,

seriously, I don't think there's any other handheld game, other than your own phone right now, that's it. Yeah, also Nintendo has had a fair share of flops. I mean, look at this thing. Look at the Wii U. Often, literally one of the worst consoles ever, you know? However, this Wii U later became something amazing, which was the Switch. And then, you know, the Wii was amazing.

So, you know, with innovation, you will get failure. The thing with Nintendo, though, is they learn from their flops and failures, whereas other consoles didn't like you know like I mentioned Atari earlier where's Atari now

or who else I don't know there's Sega there you go whereas the Dreamcast you know the Dreamcast was

obviously in my opinion probably the most underrated console of all time for sure and it flop and then you never heard of it ever again.

Dreamcast was awesome. And Nintendo, you know, they've had flops, but then they've always come back with something much better from that flop. Like the Wii U flopped. So they're like, you know, how do you make this better? Here's a switch, you know? And even like, even before they made consoles,

you know, they made playing cards and that flopped. Yeah. Yeah. They're also a hotel, like a lot. love hotel company too. Yeah. Like, yeah, they've always done things differently and innovated and I feel like learn from their mystic.

So you got to give them respect for sure. Yep. Like, seriously. And I think, sadly, the night bot deleted the comment because of balls. But innovation can throw you some curveballs. You, like, for Xbox, I think that's what Xbox of this guy

who was kind of leading towards Xbox PlayStation because they just keep, it's kind of like the iPhone. it's kind of the same thing going back forth, you know, it's the same thing with small little changes, you know, like making it a little bigger making a little better performance. The Switch or Nintendo

literally like completely re-innovates itself. So yeah, you'll have failure along the way, but like, come on, man, like if you think of the Wii or the Nintendo Switch, you know, amazing. You can't beat that. Yeah, true. We're coming close to the

of the show, Mike, do you have any questions from the chat before we get into announcements? Let's see. No, I mean, oh, also I didn't want to talk about the PSP, I think it was ahead of its time. It was amazing, amazing thing. I had one. It was just a little ahead of its time. I did add a question on a Trello board here, Mike, from Exe Day. They asked earlier in the show, we just didn't yet, but they have, they said,

it's not even about how it takes this is a product related but they're asking I'm looking at the player 2 prime and the player 3 non prime and I am trying to choose which one to get and you help me out

so I can go over the specs real quick I don't know Mike if you want to show the I'll pull it up right now the player 2 prime it has well first of all that's in the H5 elite and that has a

A&D, Risen 7, 50,800X and RTX 4070 TI GPU. The player 3, that comes in H7 Flow, and that has

Intel I7 13700K and the same GPU, which is a 47E TI. They also have the same amount of RAM, which is 32 gigabytes.

However, player 3's is RGB. They both have crack-ins. However, player 3's is slightly bigger. It's a 280-millimeter, whereas player 2 is a 240-millimeter. They both have the same power supply, 750 watts. So, even like, when you look at the FPS numbers,

they're also very similar. They're, like, only off by, like, a couple numbers. So the biggest difference of these is going to come down to what you're using the PC for, apart from gaming. Because gaming-wise, you're going to get the same performance. However, the CPU on Player 3 has twice the cores as Player 2 Prime.

So if you're doing things like streaming, editing video, editing audio, recording podcast, and things like that, definitely go for the Player 3. over the Player 2 Prime. You can still do those things with Player 2 Prime. However, Player 3 is going to make it a lot smoother just because you have 16 cores on that CPU versus 8.

Yes. Yeah. And also, I guess if you want RGB RAM, that's another reason. But the other thing, too, is you're going to get better airflow because the case is bigger and it's the flow version of, of the H7 versus the elite versus the H5 elite on the Player 2 Prime, which is intended

to just show off your fancy fancy lights. Not so much focused on the airflow. I agree. That was I was going to say is the main component is basically do you want show off RGB or do you want better performance?

Because some people are like, I don't care. I'm not going to play super intensive, crazy games. You don't have to spend all that extra into it. But if you are going to play games where it's like, I want my temperatures as low as possible, obviously having a perforated front panel is going to get you a lot more airfro than a glass panel. But they're still going to be good. I mean, these specs are amazing.

A Verizon 75800X and a 4070 TI and a 47TI and a 47TI in here and the, what was it, the I7-13700, they're going to do you fine. No matter what you're going to get, amazing. Yeah, good question. I know it's not always an easy choice when something's are the same. Because the price is more, too, you know, and even though they're similar in certain aspects, it is still better. So price aside, I would go for the player three if you want to do a little bit more multitasking.

But if all you want to do is play games and go live. every so often, player two prime, no problem. Exactly. Yes, price is actually not bad. Like, you can't even lie for the amount of power you're getting. You can actually check it for yourself. If you go to PC part picker, put all the parts in. The only difference is going to be the build fee.

That's basically it. I do, I got to admit, I do love it when I'm scrolling through our social feeds and I see people comment something like, this is overpriced. I always tell them, you know, how much should it cost? And, you know, show me the... Show me the PC parvigar figure. Show me the PC parviger list. Yeah, when you, when they put together the list, they kind of like, you know,

but grooves, like, yeah, we're not trying to rip anyone off. We're actually trying to put together some nice specs for you. And obviously, we do charge for the assembly fee. We do charge for shipping. We do charge full price for Windows. So it's always going to be cheaper if you buy it yourself, simply for the fact that, you know, you can shop around. You can always buy one thing at a time when it's on sale, things like that.

You can always get a 99-cent window key from wherever a shady website you're getting, you know. There's definitely ways to get things cheaper, but at the end, the end of the day, you know, you do get a lot of bang for your buck with our pre-built for sure. And you also get a warranty. That's the other thing too. So. Coal is your Chris, who could build a PC faster, Mike or Ivan? Oh, Ivan 100%. I will destroy me and be building a PC. I can probably do it actually really quickly. It's going to look awful, though. And will it work? Probably not. If I go for speed. I'm going to be building a PC pretty soon for my daughter. Oh, where do you get to

I think a H1 Oh, that would be cute Yeah, something tiny What games does she want to play? Well, she's playing Peppa Pig on our Switch But she needs a PC because She's going to be starting kindergarten

And they use computers already in kindergarten So I want to, you know feature a little bit more about using a keyboard and mouse Before she starts kindergarten So that's the biggest reason But she will be playing Peppa Pig for sure there's a new pet of pig by the way Mike

I don't know if you knew that oh thanks um uh dang completely missed out uh I just have to I just want to go through to two questions in chat and I can really go through these real quickly of Kilsen tonight

why do people slam NZC case airflow Never had a problem with the H510 Great cases Um yeah actually Honestly Well The H5

Do you want to go over it actually No go for it I'm curious to know what you did Oh, well, I know, I had an H5, or H510, and I, I was fine in it. Yeah, it's not the best cases, but, you know, that was like the standard, you know, these kind of like all-metal cases and everything like that. And, yeah, I didn't have the best, but now we have, literally, three different flow cases now, all dealing with airflow.

And people literally will be like, no, you're like. Not enough. they're like not enough. I'm like, our attempts are fine in these. They're like, no, no, no. At that point, they're just like, oh, they just want like a skeleton of a PC at that point, or skeleton of a case.

Yeah. I mean, yeah, we have all our cases now, I mean, you can get in with holes all over them, basically, and the reason we did that is because, yeah, a lot of people were complaining that they wanted more airflow, so we gave more airflow. But I think the reason why people

used to complain a lot about the airflow in our cases is not necessarily, at least it's my take on it. I don't think it's because they had bad airflow. It's because people's expectations of what the airflow or the temps should be in their PC are a little like, I guess, unrealistic, right? Like, for example, like, someone will say something,

Like I have an S340, which is this case right behind me covered in stickers here. You can't really tell, but there's, it looks like there's no ventilation whatsoever in this case. There is, right? Like the air goes in through the bottom and the top and it goes through the case and goes out the top and the rear. And people will say things like, well, yeah, my temps dropped five degrees if I take off the front panel and the glass. I'm like, well, yeah, that's the same thing is going to happen. And if you do that with any case, even if a case covering holes, you take off the panels, you're going to get more airflow in there and your tech are going to go down. But then the other thing, too, is do five degrees, do 10 degrees even make a difference in the computer?

And the answer is probably not. You're definitely not going to notice any difference whatsoever if you're playing video games. You know, like if you're playing Fortnite and you take off your your, your, your, your, your, you're. panels and you think, oh, cool, my temps dropped five degrees. Like, you know, this case sucks because it runs better with the panels off. Like, no, it doesn't mean it sucks. It just means, you know, you're getting a little bit better temps. But at the end of the day, if you're playing video games on a case, like one of our older cases, it's fine.

You're going to get more than enough airflow in there. However, but now, like, let's talk about something else. else. So like let's say you're doing like some sort of overclocking or you're, I don't know, some crazy, you're using your computer for doing like a bunch of things I guess besides gaming that would require more airflow and lower temps that I can understand. But if you're, like I said, you're just playing Fortnite or whatever game on there. 10 degrees is not going to make a difference. Your GPU temp going from 70 to 80, like you're not going to notice it at all. So I think I guess, I think what Dill thoughts in the chat here says is true. It's a perception, you know,

people, people see holes and they think cooler temps. Yeah. I guess that was a hot take. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was a hot. the hot take is the what's hotter the takes or the NZXT cases? Oh I don't know that's a top competition All right I'll go and go straight into analysis real quick

Like we said before we have these new Our new pre-boat PCs which are the player PCs We have the player one, player two, player three And each have a prime version of it with upgrade parts Basically each PC is made for a different player So if you fit that description, you may consider getting that PC. You can do estimation point player PCs in the chat, or you go to nccc.com and check our pre-built PCs and see which one's good for you. We also have a bunch of new products in our lineups.

You know, we got cases, coolers. You know, like we said, we have flow cases, coolers, fans, monitors, thermal pace, everything. Check them out at nzc.com or sign up for our newsletter. on the website to stay in the loop. And for those that are staying here for the giveaway, we are doing a hoodie, a t-shirt, and a sticker-lander pack. And for those that are staying here in our specific podcast live, we're giving you guys a secret entry or entry code to give you 500 extra entries.

That tends to be the reason why you win. So this is our way saying thank you for joining us live. And the code, I'll go and put the code in the chat. chat. The code is hot ones, like the sauce, hot ones, uh,

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