NZXT PODCAST - #153 - New Capsule Mini!

Episode Date: April 7, 2023

On this week's episode of the NZXT Podcast, we have Patrick, our Senior Product Manager, help us go over our new Capsule Mini and Boom Arm Mini! We go over the specs of the products and even get a little debrief into what each technical lingo means! Tune in live every Friday at 10AM PT on twitch.tv/nzxt!

Hello everyone and welcome to episode 153 of the NCC podcast, the official podcast of the N60 community. This podcast is recorded live every Friday at 10 a Pacific Standard Time on the official NXC Twitch. It is available to stream on demand on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Spotify, and SoundCloud. My name is Mike. It was me as always is Ivan. How are you doing, Ivan? I'm doing great, Mike. I'm very happy to be here for another wonderful podcast episode with you.

We have a special guest today, but before I introduced them, I do want to quickly mention that we have not one, but two giveaways going on right now. And if you're tuned in live to twitch.tv slash nzxte and you stick around till the very end of the show, you're going to get two secret words one for each giveaway that will give you a bunch of bonus entries to increase your chances. The first giveaway is for a bunch of NZXT swag. We got a hoodie, t-shirt, stickers, lanyard. and the other giveaway is for a capsule mini or boom arm mini. We're giving away three of those and the winners get to choose whatever color they want. And speaking of the capsule mini, we are having a capsule mini podcast episode.

And with us is the product manager for audio here. His name is Patrick. Patrick, how are you? I'm doing good, my friend. How are you? I am doing great. You've been on the podcast, I think three times. So is this your fourth turn?

I think so. It's either my third or fourth. Okay, well, for those that don't know who you are, who might have missed those previous episodes, can you just quickly explain who you are and what you do here at NCXT? Yeah, so my name is Patrick. I'm the senior audio product manager here at NSXT.

I've been here for four years, four years going on five. basically was hired on to break NZT into some of the peripheral categories, mostly audio, so far. First product we launched was the capsule, and then also the boom arm, so now this is the follow-up product here to that original launch. Wow, I can't believe it's been five years already. Crazy, man. Time flies.

I know. And before you joined NZT, what did you do? So before I was at NDXT, before I joined NDXT, I was product manager in the audio space. I worked for Fender guitars for a little while. As you can see here by my collection of guitars. I don't know if my cameras, if you guys can see my camera,

but I have a bunch of guitars. I'm kind of a guitar dweeb. Before that, I was at Blue Microphones. did a lot of stuff, product managing there, did the Raspberry, did all sorts of variations of the Yeti, started even doing some headphone stuff. Before that, I was at a company called Westlake Pro. They designed studios for some of the big post-production facilities like 20th Century Fox and Warner Brothers. In addition to some of those studios, I started working with like Blizzard Entertainment, Blizzard,

and also a Sony computer entertainment kind of designing some of their studios so I kind of got to know the the gaming world kind of through that lens so that's how that's how long I've uh that's that's the story of I'm doing it for about uh I guess 10 years now wow I'm an old man

so uh right now for those that are watching this is about the our new launched mini capsule Blue Barbie but what other things have you worked on before Oh, a bunch of microphones, a bunch of headsets, things like that. When I was at Fender, I did a lot of accessories, actually. It was part of the accessories division. And when you look at Fender accessories, there's things that kind of go on guitars, like strings, knobs, machine heads.

That's how you tune the guitars, things like that. And then there's things that come with guitars. So cables, cases, gig bag, straps, tuners. all sorts of things like that. And so I did a little bit of that as well. So I'm pretty well versed in this, in the audio space, not only from a microphone perspective, but also like I know a little bit about fabrics.

I know a little bit about like embroidery, things like that as well. So I think I'm well-rounded. So to kind of go along with the subject on what we're talking about right now, I'll go ahead and show off our new capsule midis right now so these are the new microphones that we're just launching do you want to go a little bit in depth of what is

the capsule mini? So the capsule mini is a essentially just a compact version of the big capsule I think I have two of them. I have one right here and one right here right there the main differences between the two are

the big capsule has a 24-bit 96 kilohertz resolution, but the capsule mini has 24 bit 48K resolution. There's a price difference as well. MSRP of the big capsules 12999, and the MSRP of the capsule mini is 6999. The whole idea behind the capsule mini is I want a amazing sounding microphone, but I don't want to spend a lot of money. And this customer knows that, well, you know, I've seen some kind of, we'll say sub-99 microphones. on the market. So my first time getting a standalone USB mic, I'm a little skeptical. I've heard some mixed things. Some can be good. Some can be bad. I don't know. This microphone is designed to be

small but mighty. You can be rest assured that just like the big capsule, you can plug it in and get a good sound right out of the bat, but you also don't have to worry about any of the other things that the other microphones have. You don't have to worry about tweaking the gain. You don't have to worry about anything like that. It just has one knob on the front, which is your headphone volume, which is another difference between the capsule mini and the big brother capsule. The big brother capsule has two knobs on the on the front one for a top adjustment for gain, the bottom adjustment for a headphone volume as well. Again, this microphone is designed for customers who, you know, it's the first USB microphone purchased more than likely. They're a little, the skeptical,

I don't know, which one should I get. I want to sound good. I know that some cheaper microphones, they might not sound good. It's like, nope, be rest assured. This is the microphone. If you want to sound the best for the price point. This microphone punches well above its weight classes. It goes head to head with any of microphones, $99. Quite frankly, even up to about $150, even $200, some of the microphones. It sounds really super awesome.

And it's the one I'm using right now. We have some cam software in this one as well. This is sort of an addition we have from the original capsule launch. The original capsule launch didn't have any cam software. But with this one, you can control your mic gain, your headphone volume and your side tone volume as well, which is another thing that the sub $69, and a lot of sub-99 microphones don't have.

So it's a really, really solid bang for the buck. It has a headphone output, which is kind of a rare feature to have in this. We even tuned to the firmware to be more sort of focused on voices in a gaming environment. Other microphones don't do that. some other microphones will even have a mode to put it an omnidirectional, which means you can record things that are behind the microphone,

which just invites all sorts of problems here. So we remove that from the equation. And it's just a microphone that customers should be confident that they can buy. They're not going to break the bank. It's small and compact. It is a little, I think it's about two-thirds the size of the big capsule from a height perspective. So they can be rest assured it's gonna sound good as well. There's an LED light on the front here

that increases and decreases in brightness with the turn of the knob. Also as a mute. And the LED turns red. It's just very easy, very compact, frees up a lot of space. It's a tiltable stand, which is another difference

between the big capsule and the little capsule as well. The big capsule has a quick release mechanism on the back here. The little capsule does not have that has to, screw down knobs so you can mount it on a boomer that way you forgot to mention that our microphones also look like they're judging you with their hands on their hips right they do you should post

that picture of the uh i don't know if you have done it we someone someone in uh i think it was on instagram someone made a post of like don't talk to me and my son ever again or something like that that was us good work good work but it's just if you want a good sound this is your first USB mic well I don't know, I'm a little skeptical. I don't know. I've heard things. Just buy this microphone. You want to sound good.

You want to sound better. You don't want to break the bank. Just buy this microphone. It's just all you have to know. You will not be disappointed. You kind of answered this already, but I want to just ask you straight up. Like, why would anyone ever want a miniature microphone? Well, a couple of reasons.

One, maybe they don't have a lot of space. Maybe they're sharing a room with either a roommate, or maybe they're sharing room with a little brother or quite frankly maybe they even want to travel with it maybe they want to put it in their book bag and away they go a lot of the times this stuff is price point driven again this customer is you know it's the first time buying a mic they don't know should I should I I don't know I've seen mics I don't know

and so they're expecting I would say a microphone quality to be lackluster right because it's so small What we wanted to do was put out a microphone that, yes, it's small, but it doesn't suck. Is it small? Yes. Does it sound awesome? Yes. It's small but mighty.

That's the whole story behind this. Mike, can you write down that tweet? It's small, but it doesn't suck. So we can tweet that later, please? I've already on it. Thank you. One of the reviewers, I forget who now. Oh, it's going to bug me.

Shoot. One of the reviewers said this is one of the best sounding microphones he's heard in a long time. And it's under $100 and it competes way, way, way above its weight class in terms of sound quality. That's been a common theme I've been seeing in the reviews is that it's not only good, that it's much better than expected, which is... Oh, yeah. Which is great because, you know, we're new to the microphone game. And to me, it shows that we are getting better at making microphones.

So I feel like it's a good sign. And, you know, it's also a good sign of what's to come in the future with audio. Absolutely. And you know, it's, you, you learn a lot when you launch a product and you break into a new space. You know, you, you go out there with your best guesses and your data to support those best guesses. And the only way it gets validated is what the market says, what customers are saying. And we could do surveys internally. We could do surveys externally. But until it's really out there, you never know. So we had assumptions that were right for the big capsule. And we had some assumptions that were. were maybe not so right. And so we took those and we fixed them or made improvements. I made another version. And this is that. For example, some complaints were, well, I like them plug and play aspect.

So cool, keep that. But man, I wish there was some sort of indicator on the knobs because the free spinning thing. That's okay. But I wish there was some sort of indicator. It's like, yeah, no problem. All we have to do is just make the LED increase and decrease with brightness intensity. And that immediately solves that issue. So you talked about this a little bit

But I kind of want to go a little bit more into it You talked about how You know Like a lot of reviewers are saying like This mic sounds Just as good if not better than some mics What is like the sound and build quality Compared to either to capsule or other mics as well?

So it uses the same size capsule that's in the capsule The big capsule It has a higher resolution than a lot of the other mini microphones that are out there. Some mini mics, without naming all the competitors in the world, we'll use a 16-bit 4-4-1 resolution ship. Some will use 1648 or 24-something, rather, forget now.

But this one has a really, really high, very potent resolution, 24-bit-48K. So that's one of the things that would sort of set it apart from the others. And the other thing, too, is we kept the plug and play aspect from the from the big capsule you know we only went with one cardioid one polar pattern which is cardioid because we didn't want to like competitors we didn't want to put on um uh probably not ivan to answer your question we didn't want to to invite uh customers to get bad um bad sound simply by by pilot error the only polar pattern of the customer should be

using if they're if they're in gaming or streaming or if they're essentially just one solo user of a microphone if they're not doing any interviews with anybody if they're not doing a like stereo micing of any anything like that or they're not using it for like a conference room the only polar pattern a customer should be using should be the cardioid polar pattern and what that means is that's just capturing things that in front of the microphone if you have an omnidirectional option for your microphone, customer could be in that pattern. They could be giving everything that's behind the microphone,

and they could be getting a bad sound, which means they'll spend more money and get a worse sound, simply because they're not sure what polar pattern are used. If I were to say cardioid, omnidirectional, figure eight, or stereo, the vast majority of people are going to be like, just glazed eyes. So take all that nonsense out of the equation, give them the only polar pattern they need reinvest the money you have

per unit into the resolution of the product and just make a kick-ass mic that's the whole philosophy behind this capsule mini and the big capsule that is my biggest gripe about you know the other mics I've used

is just so many settings and you know I don't know what any of them do you know like I do think that this makes it a lot simpler I do see we have a lot of questions in the chat which we will get to in a bit, but before we do that, Mike, can you just pull up the specs on the capsule mini so we can just briefly go over them? The cameras are covering some of the specs, Mike, so you might have to read them off for me. Ah, there we go.

All right, so let's just start. I'm just going to read down the list. I want to give out a lot of numbers. If you don't know what they mean, feel free to ask. We will clarify. But the dimensions of this are 3.9 inches. by 7.3 inches by 3.9 inches. It weighs 554.3 grams, has a cardioid polar pattern,

a frequency response of 100 hertz to 10 kilohertz, max SPL of 110 dB, a THD of 0.23 at 1 kilohertz. That refers to the distortion that will, that all microphones, all headphones have a bit of distortion kind of inherently built into the product. This has a pretty low distortion rating. Yeah. A lot of these, a lot of these specs are, I can't understand where they're confusing. We're already getting questions of what they mean. We'll cover them in the, in shortly here. The bit rate slash sample rate is 24 bit slash 48 kilohertz, has a USBC connection. The headphone

amp has a impedance of 16 oms, THD of less than 0.1% at 1 kilohertz. a frequency of response of 15 hertz to 22 kilohertz a signal to noise ratio of signal to noise of 100 decibels the microphone thread is female quarter inch and the warranty is

two years and Casey Nardley I agree with you they say that this is just another language to them but that's actually the beauty of the microphone is that you don't need to know what any of this stuff means you just need to know it sounds good yeah i mean the the the the the specs that would matter the most the customers would be the bit

depth and sample rate and that basically means and i can give a quick explanation of what that what that one means so so that essentially refers to the the microphone's ability to take your voice and transfer it into digital ones and zeros right and what it's doing is because right now you're not hearing my voice and you're hearing my voice but what you're you're essentially hearing is a is a digitized version of my voice that is as close to the because the real hearing my voice in person the real analog sound waves like that's that would be the optimal way of hearing me right but obviously i can't do that you're across the country maybe even across the world right now so what it what the microphone is doing is taking a little sample of my voice right and approximating what my actual voice sounds like right and that is is is is called a bit depth and a sample rate. The sample rate refers to how often that the microphone is taking a sample on my voice.

The bit depth refers to the depth of the actual information it can actually take. Can it take a big huge sample or can it take just a little tiny, little, just a little tiny speck there? So imagine, if you will, the best way I can explain this, imagine if we had a pile of dirt, right? and somebody said to us, okay, I want to fill this hole over here with the dirt. And what would you rather do? Would you rather take a little spoon, go like this? Nope.

Okay, there you go. Okay, we're getting there. Or would you rather take a big bucket or a big shovel on? Boom. Boom. So bit depth essentially refers to the size of either the spoon or if it's like a big excavator, right? And how fast it's doing that is essentially,

the rate, right, at which it's scoop in. So other microphones, how it will be a little tiny spoon with a big pile of dirt going, okay, here you go. I'm just going to give you a little bit of your voice there. Yeah. But this microphone is big, huge shovel, like rapid fire. Rapid fire, taking a sample of your voice

and then processing that information and putting it out into your computer, which then goes over the web, right? and the capsule a big capsule is actually doing it at 2x the rate

right so it's the same size shovel but doing it two times faster so that's that would be one of the key specs that you would want to if you're a customer you want to look out for it the headphone amp stuff that that if refers to the there's a headphone amplifier actually built into the bottom of this

so it can drive 16 om headsets and and 32 om headsets which is the vast majority of all gaming headsets. Frequency response refers to how low it can go and capture to as high as it can go and capture. For references, if we remember from your science class, the human range of hearing is 20 hertz, what they call 20 to 20, 20 hertz to 20 hertz to 20 kilohertz, which essentially means things beyond 20 kilohertz you can't hear,

unless you're a dog. Right. And some species of bats. But human ear can't hear past 60 FPS. right? Probably not. Real quick about the head phone amp thing to do. I was actually kind of shocked

that it was a like one of the questions we've been getting the most about this is can you play your headphone into it? Yes, absolutely. And I didn't realize that there's so many microphones out there where you can't do that. Again, this price point, you're talking really of the microphones, I'll say under $50, it's just a mic

and like that's it like you just plug it into your computer and you I don't know hope for the best am I getting a good sound can I hear myself I don't know but you can plug your headphone into this right if you have a gaming headset

and you want to use this microphone if it's a 3.5 millimeter headphone you can do that most gaming headsets will work with this just fine it's 1632 arm and most gaming headsets fall between that home rating. It's like 25 to

36 or something homes. It's like the average. That's like 82% of all headsets, so it should work just fine with this. One of the things I kind of want to go into since you're very knowledgeable in explaining these tech things, because like for me, like I have no idea what any

of this stuff is. There is a thing called it has a cardioid polar pattern, correct? What is that? Can you explain to people listening? So polar pattern refers to the direction that the microphone is actually picking up sound. So in the microphone world,

the polar patterns that you're going to see most commonly are going to be either cardioid, which basically means it's pointing one direction, right? Imagine a flashlight and you're pointing it, you're shining it onto something. That's cardioid. A bidirectional polar pattern or what looks like a little eight,

sometimes I call it figure eight. What that means is it's picking up on two different sides. So imagine like a Darth, a mall lightsaber, right, where it's going this way and going that way at the same time. That's what that means. Why would that be useful? Well, maybe I'm interviewing somebody on the other side of my microphone. So this would be for like interviews or doing a, where someone that would be literally

shitting on the other side of you. You could also use it for recording, like if you're in like a conference room in like an office and it's like you and somebody across the table from you talking to somebody and, I don't San Francisco or somebody and they have a microphone where it's two people, right? So it basically means it's picking up on both sides. Then you have omnidirectional, which means that it's picking up all around it, right? All around it. So imagine like a disco ball, right?

But just lights everywhere. Now, why would that be cool? Well, that would be a conference room microphone where you have like eight people sitting around a table and you're all talking to your friends in New York City who are also having the same microphone and they're also talking to everybody. then you have stereo mode which refers to basically just breaks the signal

into left and right and this would be cool for like musical instruments recording piano recording acoustic guitar if you wanted to record some you can actually even use it

for like film and things like that if you wanted to but that's that's kind of its own sort of special application the vast vast vast vast vast majority of customers and I'm talking like

close to 100% are only going to be using the cardio mode. And again, because it's a flashlight shining right on a little spot in the wall. Our customers aren't recording their friend to do a podcast, more than likely. I don't think it's a controversial statement to say our customers are gamers, right? That's not a controversial thing. One person, one sound, right? They're not using it for conference rooms. They're not using it to record musical instruments and stereo or anything like that. They're recording one person, one voice. And it's just, it's pointed out like this. It looks.

like a little heart shape, right? And that's why they call it cardioid. Cardioid, cardio, because it looks like a heart. And that's the only polar pattern. If there's people out there who have competitor microphones, the only polar pattern you should be in is cardioid. It's the only one you should be in.

If you're the only person in the room, you would be better off to have two or three individual microphones all on cardioid. So if you've seen like the podcast, what's the podcast that was just, what is it called? Is it called the whatever podcast? Have you seen this? Have you heard of this? No. I want to have chats heard about it.

It's like two guys and like, I've seen it's like two guys like eight women or like seven women and they'll just like talk about whatever. They're all using cardioid microphones. Each individual microphone is in a heart shape pointed right at their mouths. they're not using one microphone in the middle of the table. They all have their own cardioid microphones because that's how you get the best sound. It's just flashlight, flashlight, flashlight, flashlight. There's no Darth malls.

There's no disco balls. It's just, that's the only one you should be in. And so we took that philosophy when we said, okay, what's all the stuff we can get rid of to make sure that our customers are getting good sounds? Because if you go online, you'll see people using, I'll say the Yeti online, are using it. They don't know how to hell to use that microphone.

they have a pointed down. A lot of people will point it like this, like that. And it's like, that's wrong, dude. You got to, that's how you use it. And so what they're doing is they're not micing their voice. They're micing like their mechanical keyboards. Why am I getting a bad sound? Because you're using the damn thing wrong.

It's not broken. I just don't know how to use it. And I think the, the Yeti in particular, it's a little misleading. because I actually have a Yeti as well or I used to use a Yeti before I had my capsule but it just looks like you would speak to it from the top Yeah, absolutely The way it looks, you know

And it looks like like an old school microphone that you know That everyone's used like since Microphones existed basically where you think like Yeah, I should speak into this thing from the top But you're right like in reality You're just using it wrong They're micing up their chest Yeah look at this it literally says

how to make your blue Yeti sound better because at a car where you say you're not supposed to talk at the top of it you're literally supposed to talk to the side of it When I was at When I was at Blue They just because I used to work for them I used to say hey we should put out like

There should be like a graphic or something And so they did like a little Yeti Like a cartoon Yeti like with a big X When it's like because the microphone was playing like this Well there's like a big X through it And they go no not like that like this because you're right people think it's like

oh this is the Johnny Carson microphone or something you know what I mean they should they should use it like this certain way but again we wanted to take all that stuff off the table all of it off the table we you know

our customers aren't using their mics for conference rooms or or and by the way that's not to say that you can't use our microphone to record acoustic guitar or or vocal tracks or anything like that this is great for doing that all you have to do is just point the microphone at the if you're recording an acoustic guitar,

you should point it at the 12th fret. You shouldn't point it at the sound hole. Mike is Googling Johnny Carson right now, right? Too long as it? I can. Do you know who that is? I do not.

You don't know who that is? No. How old are you, Mike? 24. Oh, okay. Yeah. Wait a man, no excuse. Johnny Carson's

he's more Patrick and my generation, I guess. he was a host of a of um was it the tonight show for like decades yeah yeah i actually still watch johnny carson they show rerun they have a johnny carson channel on um like on my vizio tv and like a lot of those old interviews are great i love johnny person still funny you should if you guys want to really laugh you should watch old uh like rodney dangerfield doing Carson from like late 70s.

Dude, it's still pretty funny. They hold up. Yeah, it really does. Speaking of holding up, can you explain a little bit what an internal shock mount is and what it does? So I wish I had a cross-section.

I used to have a cross-section of a capsule with its with a top cut off, I think my daughter took it or something. Basically, what it refers to is a lot of competitive microphones will actually,

if you cut the microphone open, cut the top off, you'll see the actual capsule element right there. And a lot of customers, or customers, a lot of competitors will mount that via some sort of, sometimes it's metal, sometimes it's plastic,

right to the actual frame or body of the microphone. What happens is you get a bit of handling noise with that. What we did was we took a rubberized sort of version of that to mount it directly to the capsule, just to give us a little bit more shock absorption. So when you're moving the mic or you're moving it around, you're not going to get any weird,

like, or anything like that when you're handling it. It's impossible to get rid of that totally, unless you have some either software running on your computer or some, like, firmware thing baked into the microphone. But we wanted to make sure that we could, mechanically as much as we could remove that. I think we covered pretty much everything, about the capsule mini but before we get into the boomar mini can you just tell us how much the capsule

mini cost capsule mini is 6999 uh should be available on nzc.com everywhere that we sell products i believe uh please please buy it it's it's it sounds so damn good for the price again that one that's it's gonna bug me so bad who's that reviewer that the price is nice price is nice 6999 uh sounds good you get a headphone jack USBC connectivity 24 bit 48k resolution plug and play you get to adjust your headphone volume it's got mute right on the thing if you want to adjust side tone you can do that there's very few microphones out there at this price point that have side tone uh you can adjust your gain in software you can adjust your headphone volume and software it's just freaking awesome it's a no-brainer I do not know why everyone in this chat's not buying this microphone right now how dare you how dare you

chat microphone sells after this yes absolutely it should So I see your mic is connected to something. What is that product that is connected to? Oh, but what is it? This is a boom arm mini. This is one of the coolest things I've seen on a long time, and I'm not just saying that too. My hand horned.

It actually is super cool. Somebody said, I forget who it was. I mean Johnny. I think it was Johnny. Somebody said, hey, well, how come nobody makes like a small boom arm? Like, I don't have, like, I just have like a, like this kind of thing, a small sort of desk, and I just want the boom arm. And I'm like, okay, well, what if we just took the big boom arm we have and just chop it in half?

Literally just cut it in half. And what would that look like? So we work with the engineers. And they're like, well, look like this. And they basically showed us this mic, this mic arm. And this is the boom arm mini right here. It's literally the exact same thing as the big boom arm has the same clamping mechanism on the bottom here. here on the base.

It has the same three different pivot points on the sort of the bottom hinge, middle hinge of the top hinge. It has the same cable channel covers as the big boom arm. It has the same pivot joint here. It's just half the size.

In fact, there's no other boom arm on the market that is as small as this. It's the only one that would be close, I think is the wave arm LP, which I believe stands for a low profile. This is 10 inches shorter than that. 10 inches shorter than that.

And this damn thing will fold up to as big. If you fold this up, it's as big as the capsule. That's how small it does. It's tiny, but it's so useful. In fact, to give you a comparison here, I have a big, this is a road boom arm. My wife's using my NZXD boom arm as we speak. This is a road boom arm. If I wanted to get this coming out this way with the road boom arm, look at this.

Look at how ridiculous. Watch. What the hell is that? It just won't work, right? So a lot of people are going to be using this, a boom arm in this orientation. Some people have it kind of coming over this way, but really you should be using it in the horizontal, the straight out horizontal orientation. That's going to be your most use case there.

It fits just so just nice and neat out of the way. Some people, including myself, don't want to have a big honking thing in the peripheral vision up here. Some people would want to just have something out of the way, out of their line of sight. You can game better because it's a lot of. out of your line of site, doesn't block any of your hand for your keyboard or mouse. You can't even forget it's there sometimes, to be honest with you. But also, if you want it to be on camera and look cool, you know, because people want to have their microphones on camera, you can do that.

And you won't look like a weirdo. And you can show off more of your background of your stream setup, right? If you want to show off your NZXT case with 10 trillion stickers on it like Ivan has there. or if you want to show off your, like, guitars here, you know, you can do that. You don't have a big, huge honking arm in the way. And it's also a very attractive price point. And it also doesn't suck. A lot of cheap boom arms out there are like, you know, flimsy.

This isn't flimsy. It's quiet. It makes no noise when you move it like that. Out of the way, low profile, it's $69.99 as well. Has cable channel management. You can tighten down on three different points. Again, another no-brainer. another no-burner.

Can you use any mic with this boomer? So when it's in the horizontal orientation, you can use pretty much any damn mic, including an SM7. And the SM7, for those who are curious what an SM7 is, the SM7 is the, this would be the Joe Rogan podcast mic.

It's an XLR microphone's pretty heavy. When it's in the horizontal orientation like this, you can use pretty much any microphone with it. When it's in the up and over orientation, I'll call it the vertical orientation. It'll work with any USB microphone. So it'll work with a Yeti. It'll work with obviously the capsule, capsule mini,

a wide array of USB microphones, pretty much all of them. But when you're in the horizontal orientation, it'll work with pretty much anything. Yeah, and I have two questions from chat that kind of go along with it. From infantry, can the mini boom R be used with the first NZC caps? Yes, sir, absolutely. Absolutely. It mounts the same way.

In fact, it comes with the same. We have a little, it ships, I don't know if you can see this on the camera here, but it chips with a little adapter to kind of put it up and out of the way, threaded for the same on capsule mini as with the OG capsule. So it will work with that one too. And along with that, can he use the big boom arm, the first boomer we have with the mini capsule? Absolutely.

Absolutely. And you can use the big boom arm. You can use the big boom arm with all regular USB mics and pretty much all XLR mics. And you can use the big boom arm with all USB mics. You can use the mini arm with the mini mic. You can use the mini arm with the big mic. You can use the mini arm with pretty much everything. And when it's in this horizontal orientation, like I have it here now.

And I wish we would start. I wish we would use more imagery. I mean actually I think you and I should talk about this, Ivan. I think we should use like in like on our Instagram post and stuff. should use pictures of in this orientation here because this is going to be the most practical. I know right now there's probably people going, man, I wish there was a microphone that just went straight out that wasn't like in my peripheral vision. I could still access my both hands here from my keyboard and mouse and just don't want this honking

thing on my face. It's like, oh yeah, of course, just get this. That's all you need. Yeah, I think the banners that we have been showing, do you show it in that orientation? But you're right. That is like just, to me, it looks, to me, it looks, cool because it's just like sideways and you don't really see that but it is also like the most practical way of using a boom arm like that right well what's what's interesting is a lot of a lot of

people are using the wave arm lp in in this sort of orientation but it's it's 10 inches longer than this and so you can't like kind of maneuver it in sort of tight spaces like you can with this thing this thing is 10 inches shorter than that yeah that's like that's like you know that's a big difference. I would say. Yeah. So I guess you kind of answered this too, but like who do you think would benefit the most from having a miniature boom arm? Anyone who doesn't have the space, anyone who's, you know, a lot of our customers are sharing spaces with a sibling. A lot of our customers are in apartments. A lot of our customers are in dorms. Some of our customers are in offices. A lot of people don't have the space. One of the assumptions that companies make with big boom arms,

is that you have a big, huge honkin, studio-esque desk to do this kind of thing. And again, look at this. It's like, I'm looking, I look at the part of a streamer when I have this. But at the expense of, like, this daunting monster, like, you know what I mean? And I don't want to do that anymore. I might even sell this thing, to be honest with you. I don't even use it anymore. How many boom arms do you have on that desk, by the way?

Okay. I have one, two, three, three, four. And I use this for like, if I really want to do some XY like recording here. So you know what? And I thought I had a fifth. I guess not, I guess it. Dr. Octoboom. Exactly.

So hang on a minute. That's a lot of boom arms. There we go. And I do this. What kind of microphone is that? Oh, this is something I worked on when I was a blue. This is a blue XLR. Mike's called the Baby Bottle.

It's so the original versions of these didn't have a pad or a filter. This is the baby bottle. And then this one here is the Bluebird. And it's again, it's a microphone. The original versions of them didn't have any pads or filters. and a lot of the customers were using the microphones for pretty much exclusively musical instrument recording. Yeah.

And so one of the complaints was, man, if you put a pad and a filter on this, it could be a lot more usable for like drums and like saxophones and things that have a lot of sound, a lot of volume or a lot of SPL. And so if we put a pad on it to drop off the decibels from zero to minus 20 dB, you could throw a lot more horsepower at it and the microphone wouldn't clip. So that's a mechanical switch.

So I did that. And I also changed the colors up a little on them too to make them a little more. A little more sleek. Well, you just said the word SPL, which I guess is a good segue into our community questions here. We have a couple of them and I want to ask you. The first one I want to ask you is from Infidri, who asks, what is SPL? It's for sound pressure level. It's basically the microphone's ability to capture a lot of, like, just intensity, a lot of volume coming into the actual capsule.

Most of, most microphones these days will be able to handle pretty much anything you throw at it. It's really, those kind of specs are more relevant for XLR microphones, specifically XLR microphones that were designed to record. Loud intensity musical instruments. So what would be a loud intensity music instrument? Like a kick drum or snare drum, like a boom. things have really fast, really sharp sort of moments of time or like a saxophone that things that just put out

a lot of air, a lot of volume. Guitar amplifiers. Guitar amplifiers would be another one. So if someone has like an SM57 and they want to get a lot of juice out of it, what they can do is they can crank up a guitar amplifier and they're not going to overdrive. They're not going to clip their system, but they still

get the tone of the amp. So things like that. It's more relevant, quite frankly. I think it's a little more relevant for X-L are mics than USB mics. Most USB mics can handle everything. Also, I'm not like, people aren't recording, you know, people aren't recording loud, screaming, loud, consistently loud noises with USB microphones. That's not to say that people won't get really excited about a podcast, really excited

in the moment of gaming. Yeah. But most microphones can handle that. And we have some firmware actually inside this microphone that will actually do a little bit preventing of clipping if you even actually do that so when we say tweak for gaming or tune for for voice in a gaming environment that's that's really what we mean well you know a follow-up question also from infidre what is side tone side tone is the it refers to your voice being able to hear your own voice as you speak right so some products out there will not have any side tone and you won't be

able to hear your own voice as you talk some people love the sound of their own voice Sounds funny saying it. Some people do. As you're talking, in fact, it's a little weird not to hear any side tone. So, for example, your phone, your cell phone, when you make a call, call your mom, everybody, after this. When you talk to your mom on the phone or your sibling, whoever, you can actually hear if you pay attention. And now everybody won't be able to unhear this. You can actually hear just a little bit of your own voice mixed in to the earpiece.

and that's basically to kind of monitor how loud you're sounding or how not loud you are. That's called side tone. And you can adjust that in cam. If you want to hear a lot of your own voice, you can do that. If you want to hear none of your voice,

you can do that. I kind of leave mine kind of parked at like 50-50, and I think most people probably end up doing that. You mentioned Cam, which is a good segue to our next question here. by Ziping who asks, is there any

EQ tooling available? Not yet, but we're definitely investigating some EQ tuning down the road. One of the questions

we've also been getting is, cool, we have ability to adjust some features for the mini mic and cam. Will you be doing

the same for the big capsule? Again, stay tuned for more fun. A follow-up software-related question. Also from Zip-Ping,

they ask, what kind of Linux support is there for capsule mini. But that's a good question. I'll have to get back to you on that. I don't want to tell you any lies. Yeah. I do know

Cam does not officially support Linux, although I have seen people on Reddit, like Hack Cam, I guess, to figure out how to do stuff with Linux. But I guess for now it's Windows. I've used mine on console.

Works fine. It's not officially console certified. So if, you know, If people have problems, check back in. Sometimes it costs money to get council certified. Other times you have to do a whole different packaging exercise to have console compatibility with some and not others. So it works with console. But again, we're PC gaming company.

Our main focus is PC. Yeah. Ziping also has another question here. Are we able to analog path this to something like a shit, steel series, or Astro, DAC? Well, so Interesting. So it's a USB microphone If you wanted to analog pass it

You could, I think, run the headphone output To a shit amplifier via 3.5 millimeter cable By using the side tone adjustment cam And then once it's in A Steel Series or another mixer, you might be able to dupe the signal

that way. I don't think I'd recommend doing that because you're going to get into some gain staging issues and you might get distortion where you really, really don't want it. But I suppose you could do that.

It would be a clugie way of doing it, but I suppose you could. By the way, we're not cursing on the podcast. That is the name of a company. Shit. Yeah, it's spelled S-C-H-I-T, I believe. And they make like Dax and headphone amplifiers and things like that.

Uh, Hiram 787 ask, so is there no tap to mute on this mic? Uh, there's no capacitive touch to mute, but there is a press button mute. Yeah. Uh, Black Shiv TV ask, does the dad mic have an LED on the bottom? The dad mic? Oh, the big capsule? Yeah. Yeah, that's funny. I'm gonna start calling the dad mic. The dad mic does have an LED.

ring on the bottom. The Capsa Mini just has a little dot right there. Yeah, and the daddy mic is also purple on the bottom. That's true. And so is the little brother. Here's a question that I'm always

curious about because I keep my microphone really far away from me, if you can't tell. And I see you have yours like right in front, but Petstock, aka Jordan, asked, what's the optimal distance when speaking into the mic. Take your hand, make like a hang 10 or like the, hey call me,

make that motion, put your pinky right there. About that distance. So I should be speaking to my mic about there. Right there. Yep. All right. Now now stylistically, you don't necessarily need to follow that, right? Because here is about the normal speaking, normal average every day. And I'm about, I'm about that far away. Ordinarily, when I talk, the closer you are to a microphone, the more base you're going to hear. It's called the proximity effect, right? So if I talk right here, you're going to hear me sound a certain way. But if I talk right here, you're listening to K-Jas, 98.4 FM.

That's what it is. It's the proximity effect, because the closer you are to a sound source, if you're a mic, the closer you are to a sound source, the more base notes you're going to hear, or the more presence you're going to hear in the microphone. So stylistically, there's a reason to actually get right up on the mic if you want. Some people like to eat the microphone. They say eat the microphone where they're like right up like this. And they're not talking any louder.

You can just hear a lot more of that bass. When you're listening to the best of oldies, tune into, you know what I mean? WNBC. W&BC. No, like this. WNBC. WANBC. Oh, wait.

I have to gargle water. There it is. W and B. This is another reference. Mike has no idea where it's from. That's a fantastic movie, by the way. Yes. Private parts.

You have to watch that mic. Oh, I can say it clean now. Progna asks, what are your guys' opinion on using one of these podcast slash streaming mics versus a vocal slash stage mic like a sure? What kind of sure? I guess it depends, right? So what this person is referring to is probably a sure SM-58, which is the handheld microphone.

It's dynamic microphone. It's going to capture a lot of SPL, dynamic microphone do that. Condenser microphones like this is more better at just capturing nuance. They're more tuned for speech in like a talking setting and like a studio setting. They just capture a lot more detail. Also, you are sure, Mike, that you're using, your SM, I assume it's an SM 58, she also might be using, he or she also might be using an SM 57.

Dynamic microphones are notoriously quiet microphones. They need a lot of, like, juice, a lot of horsepower. In fact, in fact, my friends, this SM7 here, this is Assure SM7, right? This is the classic go-to dynamic podcasting mic. Customers are tricked. They fall into a trap here, and they don't realize they're falling into a trap

until they gone down the rabbit hole and spent $1,500 on a, you know, a $400 microphone. What happens is they get the mic, they go, oh, cool, this is great. Oh, I need a boom arm. Okay, I got a boom arm. Okay, cool, I'm going to plug it to my mixer. Oop, don't have a mixer. Okay, cool, I got a mixer.

Now I plugged it in my mixer. I'm ready to go. Oh, just kidding. I can't hear it. Why? Why can't they hear it? Because it doesn't have any gain. Notoriously quiet.

So what they need to do is they need it by a little box called a cloud lifter. It looks like this. And what this does is this. Basically, turbocharges your Sure SM7 or you're sure SM57 or you're sure SM58, and this is $150. So all of a sudden, and all that box does is just give 32 decibels of just boost. It basically turns the microphone on. What's that box called?

It's called the Cloudlifter. CL1 is the model number, cloud lifter. Anyone who's using a Sure SM7 secretly behind the scenes is also using a CloudLifter CL1. It's about $150. So a lot of times, if you go on Amazon, if you go on Sweetwater, they'll sell bundles of the SM7 and the Cloudlifter because they know that people who want to get the Joe Rogan Mike aren't being told, whoa, you actually also need to get this other thing that people don't tell you about.

Now, when you pair the two, it sounds awesome. But between that and the mixer and the box and the cables and the boomworms, you're in it for like $1,500. And it's like, well, it's like, and then you've got to get headphones. And it's like, or I can just buy a capsule mini for, and like be in the ballpark. Related question from death rage, how does it compare to the sure MV7?

I think it sounds better myself. It's similar spec. The MV7 has a lot more polar patterns, I think. The MV7 also has a XLR output on it as well. Quite frankly, I think if you're going to get the MV7, you might as well just, people like the MV7, I think this is a better bang for the buck.

Okay, we got two questions here. Way easier to use, by the way, than the MV7. Way easier to use. We got two questions here from the world famous PNW Tech, who if you are not following on social media, you are missing out. Follow P&W Tech. First question is, is the arm strong enough to hold a camera? It would be perfect for some overhead shots of smaller devices.

That's a good question. What kind of camera? Like a Canon, like a 60D or something? Maybe a DSLR. Yeah, so he's probably, I've never tried it with the camera. I would have to, what I would have to do is I would have to look up, I would have to look up like Canon, um,

weight specs and probably get back to you. It might work. Yeah, PNW says it's going to be a smaller DSLR or even a phone, which probably will work with that. So it's mounted quarter 20 threads on this thing. So it'll mount camera mount. It's, it's, and through adapters, it wouldn't have pretty much hold anything. But as far as the weight spec, I'd have to get back to you on that.

If it was small enough, it would probably work. All right. And I guess that's an interesting question. The reason they've asked that is probably because of their other question, which is, how well would it work for a keyboard sound test? Seems like it would work well. They're properly pointed at the keyboard. And they're talking about the capsule mini there.

Yeah. I think it would do just good, just well. And a lot of the times, you know, like Discord has like noise filtering software just kind of built in Discord, which has noise filtering. Even if you use it for like a work call or like if a school, like Google hang, Google has built in noise filtering, Zoom calls have built in noise canceling. So anything that the microphone wouldn't just catch,

your software is going to catch the little scraggly bits. Nice. So I think it should do just fine. All right. Logic. Logic. All the dolls have stuff built in.

So it should be fine. We're coming up on time here. We have our last question before we start wrapping things up. It is from Philaux. They ask, is the hardware on the boomer

are mini able to be retitened behind the hinge covers? Be retitened behind the hinge covers. I'm not quite sure what they mean. Did it mean that I can pop off the hinge covers? I think that's what they're asking. And tighten it from the other side? I think that's what they're asking. I'm not sure if you can, nor what I recommend it.

Because what I wouldn't want you to do is overtighten. If you can even do it, what I wouldn't want you to do is overtitin it. And then, like, break the whole thing. Well, I would recommend you use it as designed and just tighten with the hand mechanisms on the... Oh, they just... They just actually followed up in the chat. They said, if the arm gets loose, can you retitain it back up? Oh, yeah, absolutely.

Yeah. I... I... That's what they're there for, in fact, to retitent. Some people... What people will do is tighten in a position that... they like and then and then park it there and then retighten it so that's that's exactly the it'll work exactly like that yeah okay cool well thank you for us answering all the community

questions before we get into the announcements uh mike you just ask these really quick rapid fire questions we have written down here for pat yeah i got you for some of the rapid fire questions who's the greatest guitar player of all time jimmy has Hendricks. Yeah. He basically, he, what he did for a guitar was he essentially, he made it so that the way you kind of play guitar, it sort of, he modernized it. And then that, I would argue, propelled a lot of the rest of the 70s, certainly 80s.

It kind of was like the, he was kind of like the grandfather for, for basic, I would say, modern guitar playing, very innovative. Do you know who Guitar World ranked the best guitar player of all time? recently. Hmm. I'll take a guess. Okay. Was it a blues guy?

No. Metal guy? No. Jazz guy? Rock guy. Steve Vi? Nope. He's not even in the top 10.

Really? Jason. Brian May from Queen. And then they ranked Jimmy Hendrix number two, which I thought was shocking. I was like, I don't know. I would not agree with this. I mean, I love Brian May. I think Brian May is an amazing guitar play.

I don't think I'd put him in the car play. the best guitar player of all time. It has to be Jimmy Hendrix and everyone else, so you answer correctly. No, I will say this. Brian May's guitar amp is the coolest guitar amp of all time. So it's so badass. So Brian May uses a Vox AC30, which is the same amp that the Beatles used back in the 60,

in the early 60s, right? But Brian May somehow removed all the knobs from it, and he just has one knob, and it says volume. That is so freaking badass. That is the coolest thing, though. It's just volume. That's all you needs. And I'm like, yes, that's so cool.

In fact, you can buy, I think you could still buy a limited edition, Brian May guitar amp. And it's just, it's a big Vox AC30, and with just the whole power unit, nothing, except for one-knob volume. And it's so cool. That's almost as cool as the Marshall amp

that goes up to 11. Almost is cool. Almost. Not quite, but almost. Yeah. I'd especially going along with that, who is the greatest? band of all time.

It's the Beatles and it's not even close. It's not even close. It's so ridiculously not even close. It's sad. In fact, I would even argue that the Beatles, despite their fame, despite all the accolades,

are still underrated. And I'll tell you why. You know, I agree. I think I know what you're going to say. Because they're so popular that people dismiss them, right? Exactly.

People don't think about the way music's recorded. They don't think about the way they hear live shows. They don't hear like the way you think about like music videos or like the way like the media is even consumed. The notion of a concept album wasn't even a thing until Sergeant Pepper came around. John Lennon, greatest songwriter, probably greatest songwriter of all time. George Harrison really underrated guitar player, very underrated slide guitar player.

Paul McCartney, monster bass player, monster bass player. And Ringo, he's kind of funny. The underrated drummer, super underrated. In fact, the Beatles could have had any drummer. He wasn't the original drummer for the Beatles. He wasn't the original drummer for the Beatles is a guy named Pete Best. And they kicked his ass out. Where is he now?

I don't know. Yeah. I agree. I think the Beatles did a lot for music besides just write and play cool songs. Like, even like the whole concept of, you know, playing in a giant arena or stadium, you know, and going on tour. and all that. Like, no one did that until the Beatles did it, you know?

Like, and you mentioned music videos and all that stuff. Even the idea of having, you know, a song written by Lennon, written by McCartney, you know, written by Ringo, and then people sing different songs on records and stuff like that. Like, nobody was doing that until the Beatles did it. So I agree with you. I think that's a good solid, solid pick. I'm sure other people will disagree. Like, there's people in the chat here, like Zip Ping, who says the Beatles are so over.

but underrated. They deny their influence, man. Like, they definitely, they definitely did a lot for rock and roll. Underrated.

I'm exceptionally underrated, I would say. It would be like, talking shit about the Beatles and claiming to be a music fan would be like saying, you know what,

Alexander Graham Bell, he wasn't that good of an inventor, like on your iPhone. It's like, dude, what? What? He's hot on me?

Yeah. I blame myself, mostly. But yeah. I guess we'll go to the last question. So, uh, Hartsden in the chat actually made a funny question, uh, point. Uh, Patrick, have you ever thought of purchasing a musical instrument? Uh, if I've, I've, I've thought about it.

Maybe a guitar. So going along with that, can he plays a song on a guitar for quick? Oh, God. Put him on the spot. Put him on the spot. Put him on the spot. What about, uh, what about, what about? Like a quick chorus or something like that, if you know. Uh, hmm, let me think.

I'm trying to think of what's in tune right now. Hang on a minute, hang on. Some weaser. Want to hear some weasers. Probably in tune enough. Ooh, okay. It was a free bird. Okay, here's Wonderwall.

Anyway, here's Wonderwall. Wonderwall. Hang on a minute. Let me make sure the, uh, references are you're a lefty like Jimmy Hendricks I see like Jimmy

I'm just like Jimmy dude I'm just as good as Jimmy I might have noise cancellation and let's see if it'll cancel out power to acceleration echo cancellation so let me see this might not work because Discord might have

some like can you hear that No, it's like cutting out. Oh, there you. Probably cutting out. I was recording some bluegrass stuff with a buddy of mine, actually. So I've been like in a bluegrass mood. That sounded great.

Can you put the capsule mini inside the guitar hole? Try it again. You could. But also, when you record acoustic guitar, for anyone wondering at home, you should not point the microphone at the sound hole. What you should do is you should point it at the 12th fret. Interesting. It's just a way to get just a more sonically full sound.

So because if you haven't on the sound hole, you're probably going to get a little bit more bass than you want. So if you move it off, kind of off. the axis a little bit, kind of put it on a 12th fret, you'll get a much more, more well-rounded sound. Well, that's good to know. Someone in the chat earlier, I forgot who said it, they said that this is like the most

they've ever learned on the NXT podcast, and I'm going to have to agree with that statement. We learned a lot today about not just microphones and boom arms, but audio and what, you know, different things are related to audio. So, thank you very much, Patrick, for joining us,

for telling us all about the new capsule mini and the new boomar mini. and educating our listeners today. Thank you guys. Thank you so much. If you have any questions, email me. I think my email is somewhere. Or if you know I've been,

you can all certainly, it'll certainly make it to my way. Buy the mic. Buy the mic. I know you're thinking you want to get a new mic. I know you're thinking, oh, I don't know. Should I spend $150 with this?

Just buy this mic. Buy this mic. Buy the mic. Well, does it have that? Yes, buy the mic. Well, can I? buy the mic. Just buy the mic. It's all I got to do. It'll be fine. Mike, every time you say buy the mic, Mike is getting scary. He's like, I'm not for sale.

Buy the mic. All right. Well, thank you. Thank you, Patrick. Thank you guys so much. Let's see. So as we talked about, we just released our new capsule MIDI and boom our mini. Make the most of your desk space while keeping up performance. So take a look at if you're in chat right now, it's exclamation point capsule mini or exclamation point boom or a mini or if you're listening go ahead and check our website nx60.com to see what you know go ahead like that you said buy the bike also we check out our new player PCs at nzzc.com these are our new pre-built so go ahead and check out the player one two and three PCs each with a

prime version go ahead and go to nzc.com or if you're in chat exclamation point player PC in chat And as we just talked about, we are really seeing so many things. We have new mics, new boom arms, new cases, new coolers, new fans, new monitors. We got everything coming out. So please check out nz-x-taccom or sign up for our newsletter on a website to stay in the loop in case something is sold out. Let me interrupt you a quick, Mike. Yes. I just want to mention real quick, because I know people have been asking about the H-9 cases coming back in stock at nz-XT.com.

and I can confirm they are currently available at New Egg and Best Buy. So for those of you who have been asking about the H9, hit on over to New Egg and Best Buy and pick one up while you can. Oh, yeah. So thank you, Patrick, for joining us on podcast. Do you have any announcements or shoutouts you want to do before we end the podcast? I want to say thank you to the entire staff at NZXT for, really coming together

and making this thing happen. I did not do anything to make this happen. I thought, wouldn't that be cool if we did this? That was it. So I did. And I definitely appreciate everybody to help on everybody

from top down, left, right, back, forth, side to side. Our team in Taiwan, our Taipei team, everybody. They all made it happen. And I'm very blessed, very blessed to be working at a company that has a collective heart the size that it does. There's no other better company on the planet than NZXT. Our heart looks like a purple cardioid pattern.

Yes. Exactly. Patrick, is it okay if we give out your Instagram? Yeah, absolutely. I'm going to drop it in the chat here. J. Patrick Butler on IG if you guys want to follow Pat and see pictures of his guitars, of his kids, and DMM. questions about audio go ahead yeah more unhappy to help uh yeah

buy the mic yes all right mike what are the secret words all righty so this is why I see people in chat say all the time so we have two giveaways going on right now so right now we have the podcast 153 giveaway going on right now

that is for a hoodie a t-shirt and a sicker later pat for those are here right now listening there is a secret code that gives you 500 extra entries into the podcast giveaway and I say this every week. Most of the time, whenever I pull winners, 95, 99% of time it is those that type in the code. So it's as a thank you to those listening live. So for the 153 giveaway, the code is fund-sized.

F-U-N-S-I-Z-E-D. The fun-sized is the code for a 153 giveaway. However, then there's also, we have a second giveaway going on right now. If you guys want to check out our profile right now, we have a capsule mini and boom our mini giveaway going on right now. Basically, all you'll do is take a picture of your setup, use a hashtag capsule mini, and then sign up on our gleam. But also there is another one with some extra entries as well. So let me go ahead and grab it. the code for that.

So there is the capsule mini giveaway for Glebe. And the code for that is above average. A-B-O-V-E, A-V-E-R-A-G-E, above average is the code for the capsule mini giveaway. So please, you know, that, I've had some fun with these codes. So I'll go ahead and repaste them again. this is our way of saying thank you guys for joining us live on this Twitch. So let me go ahead. Thank you guys for joining us.

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