NZXT PODCAST - #206 - ThatFalloutGuy!

Episode Date: August 8, 2025

On this week's episode of the #NZXT Podcast... We have the wasteland curator himself, ThatFalloutGuy, joining us to talk about his journey from a dedicated fan to a full-blown community icon! Follow... ThatFalloutGuy on socials: linktr.ee/thatfalloutguy

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello, everyone, and welcome to episode 206 of the NCC podcast, the official podcast of the NXC community. This podcast is recorded live on Fridays at 10 a year and Pacific Santer's time on the official NCC Twitch is level two stream on demand on Apple Podcasts, Spotify and SoundCloud. My name is Mike. It was me. As always, is Ivan. How are you doing, Ivan? How I do, Baby Boo? Happy Friday.
Starting point is 00:00:24 I'm not always with you. I'm sad I hadn't missed the Chinchilla episode, but thank you for holding down the fort. I'm very excited for our special guest today, but before we introduce them, I just want to make one quick announcement, and that is we're doing a giveaway. So type exclamation giveaway in the chat if you are tuned in live right now on Twitch.tv slash nzxt. And you will get a link to a giveaway that allows you to win a coveted poochie plush. And if you stick around until the end of the show, you will get a super secret word that will increase your chances at winning. the plushy. There's also another giveaway going on brought to you by the NZXT Intel Club. You can type exclamation club in the giveaway and get a link. We're giving away a
Starting point is 00:01:13 free PC. I think people like free computers, Mike, from what I've been told. Yeah, I don't know. We're also giving away a bunch of other NZXT Intel goodies, such as these guys really been chippies. I didn't realize they had these giant ones. So we got those. T-shirts, FlyQuist gift cards. The list goes on and on. And if you're not tuned in live, you have no idea what the heck I'm talking about. Just go to nzxte.co slash club.
Starting point is 00:01:43 All right. Without further ado, Mike, please introduce our special guest for today. All right, everyone. Put your hands together. From the nuclear glow of the Commonwealth's to the Mojave, our next guest has dedicated his life to a game series that stands above the rest. He's not just a fan. He's a true bolt dweller, a scavenger allure, and a curator of some of the most incredible
Starting point is 00:02:05 fallout memorabilia in a known universe. He's the guy who took his passion and single-handly established a settlement in the vast wasteland of the internet. Ladies and gentlemen, please join me in giving a huge welcome to that fallout guy. That fallout guy, please say hi to our audience. Introduce yourself. Hi, well, yep, I'm that fallout guy as I've been introduced. I don't really know what to say about myself. I just do things and I record it and post it on the internet.
Starting point is 00:02:38 Some of it's cosplay, some of its collection stuff, show news, game news, crafting, like the TV back there. If you can see it, if you follow me, you've seen the TV plenty of times, I'm sure. just bringing that fallout universe to our universe. You also like to visit PC hardware companies. That's actually how we met.
Starting point is 00:03:09 You were a part of the very first NST HQ event that we ever had last April. And I'm curious, you know, how was your experience visiting NST headquarters? I didn't know what to expect. You know, it was the first time you guys had done that, and I'm not sure anyone really had any expectations of what it was going to play out like, but it was really nice to actually get to see you guys in person, and being like two spots away from Johnny, like, oh, that's the guy. Were you the first one?
Starting point is 00:03:52 first one there? I think you were. Yes, because I drove down from Bakersfield and I'm like, I'm not going to be late to this. Yeah, I remember not a chance. Sitting in the couch and I was like, oh, he's here. And it was, you were like an hour early. I was an hour early. What stood out to you the most about the event or even our office that you were like, wow, I didn't realize that. You know, I shouldn't have been as surprised as I was, but just sheer amount of computers and then of course the fallout room you didn't warn me about that you didn't tell me hey we've got a fallout room so I wasn't mentally prepared for that and then I hope to really fill out that room yeah you sent us a bunch of goodies that we ended up
Starting point is 00:04:48 you know really decorating that room much nicer than you left it so you're gonna have to come back and check it out and see how we decorated the space because of you. I expect that to continue growing even without my assistance. I hope so. So we have a lot of questions to ask you, but we have to start with the obvious. How the heck did you first get into playing Fallout? Like, how did you play this game for the first time? Like, what got you into it?
Starting point is 00:05:25 I think just like an EB games back in the day and I'm just like I've got a hankering for a new game and I've got I'm a baller on a budget with $20 in my pocket BOP can't afford a new game and I found Fallout 3 in the discount bin and I'm like
Starting point is 00:05:52 what is this about and I've read the back of the game. I'm like post-apocalyptic. Okay, let's go. And I guess the rest is history. Did you play on a console or did you play on PC first? Definitely console. I've only been into PCs for like a couple years now.
Starting point is 00:06:21 I was just a diehard console Xbox all the way Yeah we've got I don't know how many Xbox ones and stuff like that in here and series X's And then yeah I kind of evolved I got made fun of because I wasn't joining the PC game here by my brother-in-law and he's like
Starting point is 00:06:45 consoles suck Why are you going to stick to a con? Why are you so committed to consoles? I don't like the having to constantly update and manually figure things out. Console just turn it on, good to go. Maybe there's an update that it automatically rolls out and set. I'm a simple man. And we're just simps, right, Mike?
Starting point is 00:07:10 Yeah. What was it about Fallout that made you create this whole persona, you know, around the game? you're the fallout guy like or that fallout guy like what what was it about the game that made you decide that i felt there was a lot in common between me and the game like the game has that very overarching dark post-apocalyptic there's just crudeness to it and it's all balanced out with just comedic relief just plugged in here and there, just quirky missions. And I felt like that really kind of related to me. Just I'm not very optimistic. I'm fluent in sarcasm.
Starting point is 00:08:09 So, you know, if you know me, you know, I try to just be funny whenever I can. I just felt a connection to fallout. And after finding that connection, was there a moment or a realization that made you just lean into Fallout a thousand percent like you have? When I started posting about it and I felt this connection with the community, I didn't know there was such a community and fandom behind Fallout. out. And it just became like a second family to me. And I just wanted to really lean into it. And, you know, people are like, oh, you're doing some cool things. You're talking about collectibles. You're making some fun stuff. And I'm just like, all right, full send, let's go. This is me now. And this is my life.
Starting point is 00:09:18 you are that fallout guy now I mean so how man how many years has it been to first start playing like what makes like what keeps fallout fresh for you you know even after all these years is like modding is it just a community um
Starting point is 00:09:36 like what keeps it so what keeps your interest going for so long god I think it's probably been at least 10 years since I like picked up that copy of Fallout 3 from that discount bin but it's definitely the community and it seems like I'm
Starting point is 00:09:57 still finding new corners of the community like I think it was just last year maybe two years ago there was someone starting a fan film like an animated fan and they shot out like casting
Starting point is 00:10:12 and so cool I'll I'll try voice acting just for the heck of it. And I sent in an audition. I tried out for a couple roles, and I got a couple little roles here and there. What did you say?
Starting point is 00:10:32 What was the sentence that you had to say in that edition? I had a couple sentences. I played a raider, and then a mothman cultist. And the fan film is still being animated. It's being made by, I think, one of the old animators from Macanema or whatever, what that YouTube channel was back in the day, Machinema. Yes.
Starting point is 00:11:06 Can we pretend that you're auditioning for a movie right now? And I'll give you a line and you have to say it. Why don't I have to bring this up? All right. I want you to say FBI, everyone get down on the floor. I need to know a little bit more about the character. All right. The character is a FBI agent who is stopping a bank heist.
Starting point is 00:11:38 Just FBI get down or? FBI, everyone get down on the floor. Oh, man. I mean, it's coming, it's coming. Me being the cultist. I had to have like, really like, ugh, kind of mothman kind of voice to it. And then you got the reader like, oh, you mother. Kind of grungy bit to it.
Starting point is 00:12:09 Yeah, it's hard to just tap into an FBI agent without it just sounding like me. All right, we'll have to come up with another movie for you. Yeah, different character. Something grungy. Anyway, going back to the Fallout games, do you mod the games at all, like for any sort of visuals or gameplay? I know there's a fairly big modding community in Fallout, right? Yeah. There is.
Starting point is 00:12:39 And I actually just downloaded the New Vegas Wildcard Wobbajack mob pack that has like 1,300 mods. and I have yet to install it because I tried to install a very similar one for Skyrim on my wife's computer and it turns out I'm not good at modding games or even installing that. I was going to say that's probably the reason why your GPU is running so hot. You were saying your GPU is running so hot. I was like, no wonder, man, you have 1,300. No, it's because I was playing Battlefield 6 on the highest settings because I can now. Did you have to secure boot your PC to play that game?
Starting point is 00:13:24 Full send. No. It's like a thing. Everyone's complaining on social because they don't know how to secure boot their PC now. Living life on the edge. Yes. I kind of want to go a little bit into just like the fall. Before we get into like your content creation side, since that's where everyone knows you for,
Starting point is 00:13:47 I kind of want to pick your brain of like what you do. do in the game. So, one, what is your go-to build usually? I know it depends on the game, but what is your go-to-usual? Go-to-usual is usually like a stealthy kind of sniper. I mean, I do the same thing in Skyrim. I'm always an archer with a high sneak. And I don't like confrontation.
Starting point is 00:14:18 So I just want to get the guy, get the mission. I'll usually do like a high-intelligent. and like a high charisma as well so I can talk my way out of all the fetch quests because I'm not anyone's errand boy I mean honestly like anytime there's like a stealth aspect of a game I'm pretty much going to try to use it because it's so
Starting point is 00:14:43 it's so good it's so powerful I mean stealth archer and Skyrim everyone everyone resorts to that eventually right and then you get like the multipliers for damage and you're like why wouldn't I do this? You have a favorite Fallout weapon of all time. I am a big fan of the anti-material rifle.
Starting point is 00:15:09 Reach out and touch someone and hit him hard from far away. And I actually got to shoot the real-life version of that. Yeah. It was amazing. This is real-life anti-material rifle
Starting point is 00:15:23 that you shot? My buddy is you know, just as die-hard about New Vegas is I guess I am. And he made a game accurate, you know, 50-Cal anti-material rifle. Got the wood furniture to match and everything. And he's like, do you want to shoot it? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:47 What do you see? I got a slow motion video of me just. And just a concussion. It's amazing. It launched everything off the table. What were you shooting at? Just outside of Good Springs kind of out Nevada We were there for that weekend so it wasn't too far from Good Springs
Starting point is 00:16:11 Did you shoot it at anything cool like a car or anything like that No we just had some metal targets we didn't have any cool like watermelons or anything to explode Did your shoulder hurt after shooting that thing because it's a 50 cows I assume that'll probably probably that kickback on that is probably crazy now it had the malage the bipod and everything and a decent little butt pad there bang i didn't realize that was a 50 caliber weapon that's pretty big yeah yeah the bullets like this it's crazy yeah i got the bullet back here and it's a big in uh you just talked about good springs uh i know that there's like a huge good springs event
Starting point is 00:16:56 for Fallout. So like I saw that you went I think last November. So how is that like experience? Yeah, I've been a the last couple years and every year it gets so much bigger. So much bigger. Like the first year I think they had maybe like a hundred people show up. And then the next year they had like 500 people show up. Then it was a couple of This most recent year, there was 10,000 to 14,000 people that cycled through this tiny little saloon in this little ghost town in Nevada. And it's, I'm sure it's a shock for the community that's like maybe 150 people in that town, having all us nerds just come in sweep through, ravage the town, and leave bottle caps
Starting point is 00:17:58 everywhere. Mike, how far are you from Good Springs? Oh, gosh. I'll have to look that up real quick because I don't even know where Good Springs is from Nevada. Honestly, I am, oh, I'm only about 40 minutes. Okay, so it's down south, it's like southwest of Vegas.
Starting point is 00:18:20 I feel like you need a... You just got to go through like Quarry Junction. You need to meet up with that follow guy next time. I'll be down. Because I have obviously seen, because me and my friends are pretty big fallout guys too. One of my friends is like a huge fallout fanatic. He even made like a fallout D&D, the campaign that we played once. So that was super fun.
Starting point is 00:18:41 And I think if we had an option to do the Good Springs one, I'd have told to go. Oh, was it Rudy? No, no, no. It was one of like like actual like my real life friends. Rudy doesn't like fallout as we've learned. Yeah, we've learned. He put League of Legends, as he said, higher than Fallout. Shame.
Starting point is 00:19:05 So after, all right, so after you got into the game, after you decided, you know what, I'm going to be that Fallout guy. I love this game so much. What was the thing or the moment or experience that inspired you to start creating Fallout content in the first place? man um you know i had some friends that were doing it and i'm like that looks like fun yeah just um i'm looking at the interaction that he's getting and there's just the community behind it and like there's other people that want to talk about fallout nonstop these are my people and so
Starting point is 00:19:55 i started doing that and then it evolved into like me doing really big things like all see like Mrs. Fallout doing little crafts and stuff. I'm going to take that to the next level. I want to do something like the TV back there, do something from the universe that's big. You know, there's other people. There's someone that recreated one of the vehicles from like Fallout 2.
Starting point is 00:20:25 And he actually drives it to Good Springs for the Good Springs event. And I'm not there yet. but I would like to be. What's interesting to me is that you, like, what separates you, I think, from other content creators, because I put myself in your shoes, right? Like, if I was into a video game, like in my mind, if I was like, okay, I'm going to start creating content about this game because I like this game, I would just play the video game and like stream it. But you decided, you know what, I'm going to get into physically creating all these DIY crafts and
Starting point is 00:21:02 You basically did the opposite of what I think a lot of people would do. What was the reason for that? Why did you decide, you know what? I'm going to actually do these crafts. I'm not just going to play the game. I felt I wanted to immerse myself more than just playing the game. And so I felt that was just the best way to do it is to bring some of these things to real life and get to live. Fallout. You know, I play other games, believe it or not, but fallouts the one that I thought was the most aesthetically pleasing. And I just love that era, the mid-century thing. It's like, I don't know where we went wrong, but that was like the top tier of style and design. It's just been downhill from there.
Starting point is 00:22:02 Yeah. Like I feel like 195 was peak, it was just peak Americana, right? Here. So you got into this whole crafts business, right? Did you expect it to become your thing? You know, like where you're like, I'm just going to, you know, keep making more and more crafts from the start or did it evolve into that? It just kind of naturally evolved into that.
Starting point is 00:22:31 I didn't actually expect to get any sort of following. to the point where I'm, you know, making business cards for, follow me. You do, you know, I got socials, follow me. This isn't that, but, you know, I would spend so much time, like, looking for collectibles and, like, people don't know that there's all these collectibles for Fallout. If I didn't know, these people, I'm going to post about this. Like, and to talk to more fans about where you can find more Fallout, collectibles. And yeah, my inbox is always full.
Starting point is 00:23:13 It's a good problem. I mean, great problem to have. Do you know, so out of all the things that you've crafted, I mean, I'm looking on their Instagram page and you've made so much stuff. And I mean, look at, look at behind you. You have all these like collectibles and artwork and everything like that. Do you know what's like the hardest thing you've like had to acquire or craft? The stuff from the very first early games is the hardest stuff to find. The early stuff is only given to the developers.
Starting point is 00:23:57 And so there wasn't like a huge market for the merch back then. So there's like, there's a one of the things that I'm dying to get that I'll never be able to get is the gecko in a can. and it was given to the developers. There's also a gas mask. It kind of looks like a trophy, but it's like a vintage gas mask that's just on a stand, which was also given to the developers. And stuff like that, I'm just never going to get my hands on it.
Starting point is 00:24:30 I think one of the hardest things to get, I've got Todd Howard's autograph. I actually got that twice. now since I ran into him at the Fallout show premiere in Hollywood. So I got that signed myself as well as some other developers. And I also had a Fallout 3 developer shirt that they wore at the studio. You know, it still smelled like nerds and I loved it. Actually, Philnix actually asked a question.
Starting point is 00:25:14 do you 3D print a lot of the stuff that you make or do you like handmake it from like hardware store? I used to print a lot of the stuff. I had like an almost one-to-one scale death-cloth skull that I printed and painted myself. It was a pain in the butt to assemble. I've got two 3D printers and they're just in the garage right now. They put off more heat than my computer does.
Starting point is 00:25:42 So I didn't like to run them in here. um but for some cosplay leaning into the official merch side because if i started doing a lot of fan-made stuff or personal things uh i would just run out of room i'm already out of room i was going to say do even have any space for more stuff um out of all the the content that you've made what is the one you're most proud of? And why is this podcast? The one I'm most the one I'm most proud of is probably
Starting point is 00:26:26 not even fallout related. I think it is one of the videos I made for NZXT because it really pushed, it forced me to push myself outside of my comfort zone creatively and try something new. And it was a big risk that I took and it seemed to get a lot of attention
Starting point is 00:26:51 it was just that simple video of me assembling my wife's computer but I broke out my old Canon Rebel T3i I was getting some cool shots and messing with the aperture and time values and stuff and I got a lazy Susan
Starting point is 00:27:07 and the funny thing about that video is when you see that computer turning I'm under that table doing that lazy Susan manually because I'm broke and I can't afford a motorized one. So yeah, I'm under that table turning the lazy Susan. I have a lazy mic right there behind me. You see it.
Starting point is 00:27:34 I don't call it Susan. Just call it my lazy mic. What is your creative process look like when you're planning new content? There's a process. There's supposed to be a process. It's funny you say that because Mike and I talk about that all the time for social media. Like, there's like this meme, right?
Starting point is 00:27:58 It's like a bell curve. And on the left is you don't need a social media strategy. And then at the very top of the bell curve is you need a social media strategy. And then at the far right of the bell curve is you don't need a social media strategy. And I feel like, you know, it definitely is a need. needed at times, but I think the most of the time you just create content and throw it out there and see what happens, right? Is that, are you doing the same thing as us? Yeah, just, you know, throw it at the wall and see what sticks.
Starting point is 00:28:31 And whatever sticks, just kind of lean into that and roll with it. And it's really weird, sometimes what stick? It's always the dumbest thing, like a chinchilla. Like the low effort videos really pop off and I'm like, why? Why try? Yeah. It's interesting how the internet works. How do you keep things fresh though with, especially because you know you have to you
Starting point is 00:29:05 have to be that fallout guy? So how do you create content that's fresh for your audience? I wouldn't, man, that's, I wouldn't like to say that I'm always the freshest of things. You know, I might take a different spin on something that's already been done that I felt they really think that someone else has done. Or I want to take something to the next level. Like, where I want to go with the computers right now,
Starting point is 00:29:44 I see a lot of other PC builders out there just putting PCs together. and I cut out some stickers and stuck it on the glass, and I color coordinated the case. That's where I want to start just really pushing the boundaries there, and painting cases and getting really artistic with it. As popular as some of these other computers, I've done some pretty simple builds myself, just throwing some band covers on it, doing vinyl and glass,
Starting point is 00:30:20 color coordinating, not bashing that to the next level and capitalize on what they didn't. Have you ever once thought I'm going to try another game. Maybe there's more to life than Fallout. You ever thought about any other game? No, because I've compiled a big list here of reasons why
Starting point is 00:30:53 fallout's the best game ever. You wouldn't want to be that Minecraft guy or anything like that, no? No, no, no, no. We don't do that. I feel like you kind of have a lot of choice at this point, right? Yeah, average GER said
Starting point is 00:31:11 that Roblox guy. I mean, that's a way of transition into. You can go to Roblox. That Frogger guy. But, I mean, I guess one reason why you have to kind of stay in the fallout thing is that you're an actual Bethesda ambassador. So, like, how was that?
Starting point is 00:31:30 Like, what was it like to become an actual, like, can be recognized by them? I mean, it's basically anyone can apply. It's not like some prestigious kind of position. It was an invitation through a friend, and, you know, I can get discount codes for the Bethesda Gear Store. And that has actually kept me in the collective. game because I'm a father or two kids and they're both under the age of five.
Starting point is 00:32:05 So that gets expensive real quick as well as computer. As being able to get some commissions, someone gets a discount code, I get a commission, everyone's happy. And that keeps me able to do content on the collectibles that come out from that gear store. Otherwise, I definitely wouldn't have been able to afford a lot of this and provide items for giveaways. Or mail us items. You mail those boxes of stuff, too. What do you think is something that a lot of people misunderstand about being a content creator in the gaming space?
Starting point is 00:32:56 I don't know. Just maybe the amount of editing that goes into videos. Like you guys see the one minute or the three minute version of everything that's condensed and edited. We threw music to it. We subtitled it. Made cool transitions and stuff like that. But you don't see behind the scenes. You know, me spinning the lazy Susan from underneath.
Starting point is 00:33:30 the table and doing all these stupid things to get really cool shots. That three-minute video took three to four hours of filming and set up and then editing, if not more time. So you guys get the super condensed, like 1% of the time spent to create that video. Mike can't confirm. It's a grind. especially especially like there'll be times where you're like you're like I need to do this but like the creativity is it's like it's like trying to squeeze a sponge that's already dry
Starting point is 00:34:12 it's like I'm like I'm burned out or like I don't know if I can do this and that's probably one of the hardest parts you always have to be creative and you can't just like go oh you know what I kind of want to do this it's like no I have it's exactly like I've already gotten all the footage I needed from my Orlando trip at the GCX event over at Universal. I have all that footage. Do I
Starting point is 00:34:39 have the energy to compile it all and make it look nice? No. I've got two kids. I shot the footage for the Doom 5080 GPU bundle. Same story. I don't have the energy.
Starting point is 00:35:00 When When you were at this Fallout Legends Red Carpet event, how did you even book into Todd Howard? One of my followers just gave me a heads up. He's like, hey,
Starting point is 00:35:17 there's this website called One Iota and you can get free tickets to the Fallout premiere in Hollywood. I'm like, this sounds too good to be true, but let's go for it. And honestly, didn't know what to expect. Never been to a red carpet premiere of any.
Starting point is 00:35:34 kind, obviously. And I didn't know half of the actors that were there. I don't know if you're like a main character in this. Should I be trying to get your autograph right now? And then you, you're the guy. You're little. I want your autograph. How do you think the show treated the lore and tone of the game? Oh, God. I'm going to say I appreciate it for what it is. They did retcon some stuff.
Starting point is 00:36:17 I'm not going to go hard into that because I don't I'm not super familiar with the very early games to be able to say like, that's wrong. You've got those fans out there that will pick the show apart.
Starting point is 00:36:33 And I just wanted to take it at face value for what it was, appreciate that we got a Fallout show and that they seemingly did it enough justice to awards that it's gotten. They weren't just handed those awards. I mean, we, I mean, gosh, we grew up with awful video game TV show and movie adaptations. We're just like, this is awful, right? this like we're on the cuss of like we're people are figuring out how to make these shows like fallout arcane like castlemia like these are good shows that like honestly deserve their their roses i'm glad that fallout actually was able to do that well um gosh who's the actress's name i cannot remember her name uh she's she was fantastic ella pronell yeah yeah yeah fantastic fantastic fantastic fantastic
Starting point is 00:37:35 Uh, season. I just got an autograph. Oh, dude. I was so mad. She was there. She walked right past me. I'm like, but I got the overseer Hanks. I got Maximus.
Starting point is 00:37:51 I got Mahjune. I got Todd Howard all in my little orange bandana. This is good. That's good. That's good. That's great. Uh, and, and I guess another thing is, uh, do you have, you did the, uh, red carpet event and is there anything that comes to mind about any cool moments or collaborations
Starting point is 00:38:11 that you've recently done i know you just met scotty k fitness which is he's been one of my favorite content creators for a long time now i know he's a big fallout guy too so you have any other ones that like really stood out to you um i've got so many friends it's hard to just pick one of them. I got to meet some of these other people in person. I've got a buddy who runs a podcast. It's a, you know, the Chad fallout podcast. It's a 76 show.
Starting point is 00:38:50 He's always got like voice actors from the games coming on there. It's always great to see him. I've got a buddy, BioWagon. He does all sorts of different things. and I saw him in Orlando as well, and it's funny because he came from San Diego to be there. So we're both traveling across the entire United States to be there. And it's good to see some familiar faces in a strange place like Florida.
Starting point is 00:39:23 And I mean, I can see it right now on your arm. You have to talk about the tattoos. We have to talk about this. So I'm going to show the audience, like, how amazing, these tattoos are. I mean, this looks incredible. Was, do you have,
Starting point is 00:39:44 was this like your first tattoo? Or was this like, you have other tattoos and then you eventually made this one? I've got, let's see. I got both my calves done. And then I've got a little chesty bit
Starting point is 00:40:01 there. And then I decided I'm ready for a sleeve. And I want it full color. I want like just masterpiece. And I spent months looking for the perfect artist that was willing to tolerate me and my nitpicking for accuracy and crazy requests. I actually got to see this tattoo in person and it's amazing. Like, whoever you found to do this, man, like they, they nailed it.
Starting point is 00:40:39 They did a great job. And what blew my mind, though, it was that it's glow in the dark. Yeah, it's UV. I didn't even know that was possible. Yeah, I got some extra rads from putting in UV ink. It's like, maybe my own will fall off a few years from now. It's like a cool thing for a fall of tattoo, right? Making it, making it.
Starting point is 00:41:02 making it go like that. If I'm going to get a fallout tattoo, I'm going to commit and get the radiation. How long do that sleep take? All in all, probably nearly 50 hours. I was there every couple weeks for like two months, maybe three months, which as soon as some part of it would heal, we'd bounce over to another. section of it. And I found out I'm highly allergic
Starting point is 00:41:38 to the second skin adhesive on the clear bandage. Oh, that? You're allergic to that? Super allergic, because I kept breaking out in a rash. And so he'd have to, like, go and touch up the part where it got torn up from the stinking rash. And I had, like, pus coming out.
Starting point is 00:42:02 So I'm like, I want to get my other sleeve done but I'm not ready to deal with that rash again and try to like carefully manage and clean it you just got to be very careful when caring for a tattoo yeah something with a lot of detail like that I mean I want to just know so you did 50 hours so one you made this design yourself right like you like did Or did you get help from the artist and stuff? Like, I want these things and where should I put? I had a bunch of screenshots of things specifically from New Vegas that I wanted to.
Starting point is 00:42:50 That's just what made the cut. There were still 10 other images that I really wanted to incorporate, but he's like, this is going to, this is what's going to happen. It's going to flow. The other stuff would just kind of make it look out of place. place. So it was a real collaborative effort between going back and forth here. But he was super understanding. He designed a lot of, he reworked what I gave him and then pieced it together as what would fit. And there was actually a cover-up behind the helmet of one of my previous tattoos. It was just a spur of the moment kind of, let's go get tattoos, kind of.
Starting point is 00:43:40 thing. That got covered up. You mentioned that you wanted to get your other sleeve done. What are you going to put on that one? Fallout 3. I should have started with Fallout 3 since that's the game I started with. So I'm actively piecing together
Starting point is 00:44:01 screenshots of what I want to be involved in that one. But, you know, it's kind of like this one's telling a story kind of up my arm and leading all the way up to Vult 22. I think that's Vult 22 with the plants. So. If you need any tattoo ideas, I recommend shaving your head and then just doing a big radiation symbol up there.
Starting point is 00:44:31 Way ahead of you. Oh, all you did is the tattoo then. Yeah. Do you have any other things planned other than the other sleeve or get like a cool leg one chest of anything fallout related after that or is it really fallout three fall in new Vegas pretty much the sleeve and then i wanted to go across the chest as well um financially that's just not something i can do right now and it's you know there's not a lot of tattoo artists that just want to do that for free As much as I would like to think there are, but...
Starting point is 00:45:14 Michael do it for free, but it won't be good. I'll do the old school way where, like, you have the needle. That's why I'll do it. I'll do it that way. No idea how to do it, but I'll do it free. Yeah, just have a lot of caffeine. Your handle just be doing that automatically. You're just ready to go.
Starting point is 00:45:32 Yeah, I'm a surgeon. I'm a surgeon. Don't worry. I got you. Trust. Trust. Trust the process. besides fallout content the other thing that you're known for is your just your gaming setup i would say
Starting point is 00:45:48 mike can you can you put up their setup oh yeah it's like beauty this is one of the cleanest if not the cleanest setups i've ever seen um how long did it take you to put all this together Not super long. I mean, I think I spent more time trying to find the desks that I wanted than the actual, like, assembly and cable management. Because I'm super indecisive. And I'm like, if I get these desks, I'm stuck with them for at least a year or two. otherwise my wife will kill me for buying more desks before this
Starting point is 00:46:42 setup here I had standing desks which were nice you get to do the cool standing desk thing but I was so limited by the drawer space and obviously the top real estate and with the
Starting point is 00:47:01 yeah just the ever expanding computer for referrals and stuff. I needed more real estate up top. Can you walk us through your setup, let people know what you're working with here? Walk you through my setup? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:24 Just with the basic computer stuff here? Yeah. What are your specs? What are you running there? Oh, gosh. Currently, I don't think you have any media of it, but I have that new Doom. 5080 the astral in there and that's inside the H9 Flow RGB plus with the 420 fans but nine of them in there and then got an MSI EP or whatever it is I think like
Starting point is 00:48:09 64 gigs of RAM but then I seven 12 gen processor Not bad, not bad With the brand new Crackin 420 What did you think about That case when you're building it
Starting point is 00:48:30 Since that's our newest case I gotta know what you think about it Well my favorite case Has been the H6 And so when I saw this It's just bigger Oh yeah You actually showed it
Starting point is 00:48:47 to you in person before we released it, right? Yeah, I saw another one that I had my, I was too focused on that. I thought this was just another H6. I was in the back of the crowd there. So I saw the other one
Starting point is 00:49:02 and I'm like, well, that's cool. And so that's the one I thought I was going to be getting. Oh, that's a neat little one right there. And then I saw the picture of this one. It's the H6 flow. but bigger. It can fit the 420 fans in here. I need that.
Starting point is 00:49:27 And then, I mean, I'm starting at this setup right now. And it's like, honestly, I've been literally like yesterday. I was like, man,
Starting point is 00:49:37 I really need to redo my setup because like, we've been, I've been rating people set us and been like, oh, just you need to do it. And I look at mine. I'm like, dang,
Starting point is 00:49:44 my thing is like a mess. I got wires. I got to talk. Talk. Yeah, I'm like, I don't know. So I'm wondering what's like, what was like the most chaotic part about making this whole setup? Like was it dealing to cable management or was there was like something that it was just like having issues with? Definitely the cable management because I've got all the lights behind there and everything.
Starting point is 00:50:08 And I actually need to wall mount the power strips because what you guys can't see with my wife's setup is a big power strip that's at her feet. you can't see mine because I pushed my power strip over to the side of my desk and now that one's pushing out her power strip so it's her problem so I'm going to be the good husband and wall mount the power strip so it's not at her feet anymore and we also have a kitten
Starting point is 00:50:39 that is going to be a kitten and mess with the cables so it's just a safer thing to do anyways Would you say you prioritize aesthetics or function when it comes to the setup? Since you have your power strip by your wife's seat, I'm assuming it's function? You know, I'd like to say that I prioritize them equally. I don't want to say that one outweighs the other. I want everything to be very functional, very user-friendly.
Starting point is 00:51:17 comfortable because that's the main thing about having the dual set up is that we promised each other when we got married, we would always have together. And so I want to keep my promise. I want to make her feel comfortable and welcome. It's not my room. It's our room. And that's why we've got the dual TVs back here.
Starting point is 00:51:40 We've got the series X's. And this room has gone through so many different evolutions. And I think there was a point where she didn't feel comfortable in here that the furniture wasn't comfortable and she just had our child. And there were just other features of the room that it was hard to actually get her really, properly situated, I should say. And I'm interested, too. Like, you made that promise. Was that promise actually in your wedding bells? We didn't have a wedding.
Starting point is 00:52:32 Oh, there you go. We just did a, you know, courthouse, and then we had a reception after her family was like, what? Well, you did it in the courthouse. Technically, you have to make her happy now. So, yeah. GGs. So that was my commitment is to always have an inviting, gaming area for her
Starting point is 00:52:53 little safe space. She can work on her computer, do her school work, all that. She's a teacher. She can do all her grading on there. It's just more practical than just having a console to work with. Can you imagine your teacher my grading
Starting point is 00:53:11 your papers surrounding by all this fallout stuff? You know, now I'm wondering, like, if that ever crosses the little high schooler's mind. Like I was a kid that just got into Fala and then it's like oh yeah like my teacher has the like one of the biggest Fala collections that's what a cool like I wouldn't I if I was the kid and I so started like fall out I go crazy yeah that'd be cool yeah I mean we just went to that Orlando event that was the first time she's been to a fallout event of any kind and so I'm sure when her students do didn't see her in that vault dweller suit. And they're just like, oh, I just got into a fall. And then they see their math teacher in a vault suit.
Starting point is 00:54:02 They're just like what's going on. That's funny. All right. So now is time for my favorite part of the show. It's where Mike asks you his rapid fire questions. All right, Mike, take it away. All righty. Let's get going.
Starting point is 00:54:20 So we'll move back just for a second for Fallout in general, but are you playing any games other than Fallow as right now? Oh, man. Yes, I have been balancing between the Oblivion and remaster, Doom, Dark Ages, and yesterday, I don't play PVP at all. And so I got the open beta access for Battlefield 6. that was the first time I played PVP, I don't know how long. And I think it was maybe like my third or fourth round. I had 50-something kills and only five deaths. Maybe this is something I should get back into.
Starting point is 00:55:05 What the heck? And of course I was doing sniper stuff. Got it. I have, yeah. I'm very excited for Battlefield 6 because like, I mean, for someone, I've been a first-person shooter guy for most of my life. And once everything got into this like Omni movement, like, you're gliding all the walls and stuff like that. I'm like, this is too much for my little, my little brain.
Starting point is 00:55:33 So when it's like kind of like an old school style sprint, shoot, you know, respawn. Like, I feel like it's so, I like that. It's so much simpler and a lot easier to have. Do you have a game that you'd recommend to everyone right now? Oh man I would have to say Battlefield 6 You know I feel like there's other games that are just slept on But
Starting point is 00:56:01 That'd be that'd be going far back Because there are some games that are just super overlooked Historically that I played on the original Xbox That didn't get the attention I felt they They deserved And actually that actually leads it to the next one is thinking back towards, you know, your childhood or, you know, lifetime gaming, is there a game that you'd like to remake?
Starting point is 00:56:30 The suffering. The suffering. I don't know if you've heard about that one. Oh, here it comes. He's going to look it up. It's a, it's a dark one. It's very silent hilly kind of. That's what I was about to say.
Starting point is 00:56:49 This reminds me a little silent. on Hill is the monsters and everything. And then it's kind of, oh gosh, what's that? Oh, I can't think of the name. It's got the, was it prisoner? It was like a PlayStation game. Oh, I can't think of the name now. Gosh.
Starting point is 00:57:12 But yes, this was made by Midway, I believe. And the first one was phenomenal. And then I equally loved the second one. very hard to have a sequel to a game that you really fell in love with and then you find out you love it as much if not more. Oh, that. All right. I think there's some people in the chat that never play Fallout.
Starting point is 00:57:39 So if you had to convince someone to play Fallout, what would you say? Like, what game would you start or like, what was your pitch speed to that? Oh. Yeah, I mean, I would say. given the world's current events and where we're going to be going, Fallup may prepare you better for your future. That's a great pitch. Honestly, now I think about it.
Starting point is 00:58:09 That's a great pitch. This is like the zombie survival guide book, but fallout, nuclear, winter kind of stuff. Yeah, it's like you've got to start preparing for, you know, radiation and gathering supplies and what you should be looking for in a shelter. I love that. If you could rewrite or reimagine one of the storylines in the Fallout series, is there something that you would have wanted or done differently? I would have gone a very different route with Fallout 4.
Starting point is 00:58:47 Same. Because I felt, you know, Fallout 3, you're looking for your dad. fallout New Vegas, you're looking for revenge. Fallout for, I'm looking for my son. I mean, everyone's looking for their family. So pick a different route. You know, maybe leave out the sun part and focus on specifically the institute right off the bat,
Starting point is 00:59:21 completely remove the family aspect from it like you want to hunt down the institute because they are swapping people out oh yeah i actually did really like the aspect like when you first got to oh god what's the main city i can't remember diamond city yeah and then like you see like the standoff between the guys like i'm not a cent i'm not a you know that i think would have been a great thing that's the thing i wish happened was if fallout new vegas because fallout new vegas is by far my favorite because storyline and everything if they had the same mechanics like game mechanics that fallout four i think i i think that i'd be my favorite game of all time i just wish that following the biggest had more update i mean
Starting point is 01:00:04 it's an old game i can't blame it but if had like updated gameplay oh yeah count me in yeah that's what i was hoping to get with the um fallout uh mod pack the wild card i think it's called um just the graphics looked super updated there are a bunch of new mechanics they were implemented and once I get around to finding the time to install, hopefully it's similar. Do you have any feature or thing that you would hope that Fallout 5 includes? Because I know they're working on it. I would like the ability to put, make anywhere of settlement. And I know that's going to sound very six of me to say.
Starting point is 01:00:55 And I don't necessarily like set. I'm not going to bash it, but it's not my thing. But I would like to be able to utilize whatever existing building is there. Fortify it. My stinking settlement from the ground up, but rework a building. You know, if you're going to be camping out there for a night, if it's going to be your permanent settlement, whatever your needs may be. But pick an existing structure and be able to be.
Starting point is 01:01:27 to work specifically with the features of that structure and really capitalize on the defense that already naturally provides. I like that, actually. If, oh, what is your favorite fallout lore? I've been getting into a lot of lore stuff recently. So what is your favorite piece of lore? Gosh, you know, I love the vaults. Like a lot of people take Vault Tech at,
Starting point is 01:02:03 face value, and they don't realize when they repost the Vault Tech logo. That's basically like reposting the devil, because Vault Tech is running all these experiments. The dwellers of the vault. So you're just promoting your support for that kind of corporation. And I feel a lot of people just overlook that. And that's my favorite thing to look into is all the vaults, all the experiments and all the messed up things that they thought they could get away with. And they didn't think would ever come to the surface, come to light.
Starting point is 01:02:43 So just the vaults in general. I mean, I know that we made a fallout case recently, but if you had to design a fallout themed NXT case, what would you, what would your theme be that? I've been begging to do that. I want to go and do a Pipboy theme. I think it's a pretty universal thing kind of across the game. So it wouldn't be just like a specific game.
Starting point is 01:03:21 I know the Pit Boy in Fallout 4 is tan, but like the rest of them have kind of been like green-ish. So I want to do something to kind of match the El Gato arm here. and the stream decks and all that stuff. So I think that's the route I would go with it. I almost did that with my own case. And now I'm like, if I can go through and design an actual NZXT case, that's what I would do.
Starting point is 01:03:54 I would take it the Pit Boy route. That actually sounds pretty cool. I actually just looked up. I was like, I wonder if anyone's made a Pit Boy case. And then someone actually like made like a Pit Boy case. like a pit boy and like they put like a PC inside of it. I'm like that is pretty sick. I love that.
Starting point is 01:04:15 The creativity of like people doing this stuff is pretty sick. Like there's a fusion core one. You know, there's not there needs to be more fallout stuff in the universe that people can get. I think if I were to do a water cooled build, I would go like the, at the very end, I think it's episode eight when you should see the cold,
Starting point is 01:04:37 fusion actually like a little capsule turn open up and then you see the bubbles and everything I would channel that into a water cooled build so it would be like the blue and then you have Volt Tech and it wouldn't be just like in your face Vault Tech but all that energy being harnessed at once into a PC I like that I'd buy that instantly Okay. Would you rather fight one death claw size
Starting point is 01:05:14 rat roach or a hundred radroach size death claws? Give me the single roach. Oh, death claw size rad roach. That's terrifying, Bill.
Starting point is 01:05:29 I will learn how to ride that thing. I'm not going to be walking the wasteland. I'm going to make that rat roach. My much transportation. Honestly, you could probably work with this.
Starting point is 01:05:43 Oh my gosh. I didn't even realize like a life size radroach, like just regular size ragroach is like they're like half your size of love. I didn't realize. So we're halfway there. Let's go. Yeah, there go.
Starting point is 01:05:57 You can make it like a little horse. I like that. Yeah. It's like just a, you know, crunchy little surfboard. I don't know. I don't like how you included crunchy.
Starting point is 01:06:08 into that. All right, I got two more fun little little questionnaires. Okay, so this one, this one's going to be, I asked the chill of this and I think it's a very fun question. Okay, I give you $1 million. Here,
Starting point is 01:06:24 like you just here, here's a one million, but for once a month for a year, so you got 12 times you're going to have this happen. You will be attacked by an animal at random. You will be given a weapon corresponding to that animal's danger level.
Starting point is 01:06:39 So you could be lucky and you can just get like a little, little ant and just go, okay, well, that I don't get it. Or you can be unlucky and then you have to fight like an orangutan and it you have to like you get like a little like boxing glove or something like that. I mean, I've got a million dollars. I can prepare myself a little. Yeah, you know, like you can, you can just like prep like a like an area that you can fight with?
Starting point is 01:07:08 Yeah, just, you know, calling some backup right then and there. So I'll do it. You do it? I don't think that much anyways, so I think I'm pretty safe. I mean, $1 million is a lot of money. Ivan, would you do it? I think so. You can be real lucky.
Starting point is 01:07:27 You just get like little animals or then you can get real unlucky, and then 12 times you're finding like a brown bear, and you're like, oh, gosh. You don't want to know the things I would do for a million dollars, Mike. I kind of want to know now. All right. I'm a other podcast. The After Dark podcast.
Starting point is 01:07:44 All right. I got a, I got a fun. I found this on the Reddit thread of would you rather. And it's a little, a little thick, but it's a very interesting one. So,
Starting point is 01:07:55 okay, would you rather have everything under $1,000 be free at charge? You know, food, you know, you're buying some clothes or whatever. Anything under $1,000? Easy.
Starting point is 01:08:07 you for free or once a year you can legally steal any physical object you want and i there's a bunch of like stipulations with this i'll go into them for the one thousand dollar for one k item uh you can't give it away or profit from it you're just taking it so you can't sell it so that's a big thing you can't sell it um yeah you can't like gamble or bet or you can't use it to make money it's just taking the $1,000 item. You can steal. Oh, and then, oh, yeah. And then the total bill has to be $1,000 under, no matter what.
Starting point is 01:08:49 You can do an individual item that's worth $1,000. But if you have two items that are worth 600, that's not worth. And then for the stealing, you can do one item per year. It's a physical item. You won't get in any trouble whatsoever. So like you can go into a bank vault and if there's a gold bar lying down, you can just take it. However, if like the object is combining other objects, so there's a sack of gold bars, that is okay as well. So that's the fun one.
Starting point is 01:09:24 I found. I was like, oh, man, I actually don't know which one I would like more, $1,000 under or like you could just take one. You get steal a super rare diamond that's worth millions of dollars and they do it once a year. So it's like, hmm. That seems like a lot more work. I think I just want to take the $1,000 item, whatever, whenever I need it. Trying to get whatever the million-dollar infinite item, that's way too much work. I just, I'm a parent.
Starting point is 01:09:58 If I need to get some school clothes, if I need a medical bill, done. Gas for my car, done. But does the $1,000, like does the $1,000 item thing, does that mean you can only get it once? So you can only get free gas once. You can then get a free hamburger once, et cetera. I think in this stipulation, it's, it's, you can repeat it. So you do like the $1,000 gas. But if you had to do it only one time, like only do gas one time and food once.
Starting point is 01:10:35 time and you know maybe I don't know that because then I feel like I would run out of things after yeah yeah I'd be like all right I got I got a free meal I got free gas got my shoes what else can you get under a thousand bucks yeah close you basically stack it up to a thousand then that's it hmm now that changes things yeah and then I don't know taking that one stolen item and then trying to like, you know, find a buyer for it, whatever you're going to do with it, that's, I don't know. You have a good question, Mike.
Starting point is 01:11:23 Yeah. I was like, okay. I think I would do the one item. I think I would just go all big and go home, you know? Like I go to like a car auction sale that's like there's like a one of four Lamborghinis. I just go touch and I'm like, I'm going to sell this later. I think I do that for fun.
Starting point is 01:11:42 I mean, which one would you do? The $1,000 limited one or the one item? So I had another question, too, about the one item thing. So you said you could steal it. Does this mean you still have to, like, for example, like break into the car and, like, hotwire it to take it off the lot? You have to be able to touch it. You have to touch it.
Starting point is 01:12:05 So, like, you can't just think, oh, I'm going to steal a quadrilo. million dollars from the bit. You have to like get into the actual place like the wall and touch it. And you can sell it. And then you can sell it for later. Yes. Then I would do that option and I would just touch touch a house every year on my birthday and then flip the house basically. Yeah. You can walk into a bank and be like this bank is mine and all of its content. I would say it has to be like a physical like it has to be like a like a like a like a title you know like a deed to the house i would say so like if you get if you can get a way to touch the deed to the house
Starting point is 01:12:49 i say that's yours what would happen if i would be interesting well what happened if i touched you mike would just poke you no it's an inanimate object that that's actually a stipulation Someone said, someone in the chat said, the Mona Lisa, that would be actually, that would be insane. You just walk up to the Mona Lisa. You just go, I'd like to take this. That would be kind of interesting.
Starting point is 01:13:19 No. Now, yeah, now I'm actually, I'm really on board with a one million now because, like, I can steal like a house, flip that. There are more options, yeah. Yeah. I think that is it on the rapid fire. I'm going to do a quick couple of announcements and then I'm going to hand it back over to you,
Starting point is 01:13:38 Mr. Fallout, because I got some fun stuff for you after. But first, just a couple announcements and now I'll give you guys the extra code word as well. We have the N60 Intel Club. It is popping now. So special thanks to Intel and thanks to Ivan for working with them because they are giving you guys a ton of free stuff. Like, we are giving way shirts, plushies, gift cards, and, like I even said at the beginning of podcast, a free PC.
Starting point is 01:14:10 And I know you guys like free PCs because every DM I get, I get at least two to three, four to five a day of just, can I get free something? So it is free. So go to nzicc.com slash club or as much point club into chat. You can see Harbour Quest, that little mod that we have here. You basically sign up and you participate in our community. And that will earn you poochie points. And the more points that you guys are, they get in, the more entries you get into the giveaway. So you guys, if you guys want more entries and more chances to win, more free stuff, start now.
Starting point is 01:14:47 And you can see some people are participating by watching the N60 podcast. They're getting poochie points. You can comment, like our posts or anything like that. gives you points start now ASAP nzcc.co slash but right meow yes uh we just launched a bunch of new stuff we have a new micro ATX h free flow since i know a lot of people have been wanting micro cases for a while our newly updated h9 flow which mr the fallout guy has a crack in elite 420 which she also has and then a line of cracket plus cool coolers available at 240 280 and 360 millimeters so you can take a look at
Starting point is 01:15:27 NZC.com slash new stuff or Escapation Point New Stuff in chat. Okay. And then John, do you have like anything exciting in the future that you want to like shout out to the audience? Like they have them take a lookout for anything like that. Any events? I would say that I'm trying to partner up with some organizations to do, you know, custom cases and maybe even a full. blown PC and I want to start
Starting point is 01:16:01 doing giveaways for these works of art that I kind of want to put together myself. I feel the community has I'm here because of the community so I wanted to do something to get back and you know I've done some things
Starting point is 01:16:19 in the past with some Power Armor helmets painting those for charity and I'm here because of game So I want to give someone a computer once I have the means to do that. And I want them to have a computer that they want to show off. That's a one-of-one kind of computer.
Starting point is 01:16:44 We should do it and you should give it to me. If they really don't already have a computer to work with, I want them to have just something to blow them out of the water. So I will be doing cases. and hopefully sometime in the near future I can do full PCs That'd be awesome
Starting point is 01:17:07 And I guess a way to do that is You know Where can we have Where can they message you or find you online My Gmail's And basically all my bios You know my link trees there Hopefully word of mouth is also
Starting point is 01:17:28 getting around and people talk and be like, oh, I know someone who wants to build PCs and do giveaways for charity. I just got connected with Regiment, the veterans, you know, gaming community, and they do some custom gaming PCs that they give away. They unfortunately already have someone that they work with, but maybe I can contact them and do. do like a collaboration. I'll do the fancy case
Starting point is 01:18:01 and they can provide the components themselves and go from there. Cool. That would be awesome. All right. Lastly, for those of you who have stuck around until the end of the show
Starting point is 01:18:17 and are waiting for that secret word, we're going to ask that fallout guy to come up with the secret word on the spot, and that's going to be the secret word for y'all. So that fallout guy,
Starting point is 01:18:31 what is today's secret word? Radiation. We need an air raid iron. I mean, I guess that's the closest we got. All right, everyone, that is
Starting point is 01:18:49 the code word is radiation. Please refresh your gleams now because I just update it. So please refresh your gleams because I just updated that. So thank you so much. you're on for joining us today like seriously this was awesome i love seeing your content on our feet and everything like that uh yeah better get your bananas for the radiation uh and do you have
Starting point is 01:19:14 any last minute things do you want to say to our audience before i end the podcast um no just thanks for having me and thanks for you know reaching out and i know sage the plug is going to be mad if i don't say late but you were not overlooked I was hoping he overlooked him. No, not a chance. Well, thank you so much. And you guys can catch him on his socials, estimation point follow out in the chat.
Starting point is 01:19:42 You guys find his league tree there. So thank you for joining us. Thank you all for watching and remember to tune in live on Fridays at 10 a year Pacific Standard Time on the official NCC Twitch. And don't forget to listen to previous episodes on Apple Podcast, Spotify, and SoundCloud.
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