NZXT PODCAST - #209 - How to Become a Streamer and Get Sponsored! (Ft. oolivia_)

Episode Date: September 19, 2025

On this week's episode of the #NZXT Podcast... We have oolivia_ giving us (especially YOU) tips on how to become a streamer and some insights into working with companies (like us!)  We also talk about her amazing cosplays and joining her very convincing group ruled by her mighty kitty, Rudi. But it's not a cult!  Follow her on socials: https://beacons.ai/oolivia_

Hello, everyone, and welcome to episode 209 of the NCC podcast, the official podcast at NCC community. This podcast recorded live on Fridays at 10 a.m. Pacific Center time on the official NCC Twitch is available to stream on demand on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and SoundCloud. Mind me is Mike, and I'm writing soul today because Ivan is celebrating his wife's birthday. So I will be helming the ship for today. I have a special guest with me today, but before we get to that, I have a special guest with me today. I before we have a special giveaway we have them right there we have a poochy plush a sticker oh yeah there you go right there so if you guys want to join the giveaway as estimation point giveaway in the chat and make sure to stay tuned to the end of the stream as there is a special

code that gives you i think a thousand i raised it a thousand now uh extra entries into the giveaway so stay tuned and without further ado Let me pull up my thing. Okay. Introducing a content creator that has the cutest cross-eyed kitty in the world, an incredibly talented cosplayer that has done. Prepare for this. Dockey, Malania, Lucy, Zelda, Gemma, Hinata, Diva, Ino, Fade, Pura, Tifa, Shadowheart, Mitsui,

Tsukuna, Skor Girl, Dark Bidish Girl. I think I got everything. You're insane, by the way, for doing all these cosplays. Our smooth brain, our smooth-brained scofe streamer herself, Olivia. Olivia, can you please introduce yourself and tell us what you're all about to our audience. Hello, my name is Olivia. I'm a variety streamer here on Twitch. My handle is just my name, Olivia, with two O's, and it underscored at the end.

But I also do a lot of cosplay. I kind of got started by doing cosplays on stream for the game that I was playing. and I still kind of do it every once in a while but now I just kind of do first playthrus of games right now I am playing through Assassin's Creed Shadows trying to get to the DLC. I do some Eldon Ring Night Rain as well playing through Hollow Night's Silk Song right now

as much as it hurts. Yeah, a lot of first playthrus of games, a lot of cosplays, Eldon Ring, of course, Melania. So, yeah. That's neat and my cross-eyed cat might be coming to make an appearance. I'm so excited. Oh, oh.

Yeah. So cute. Oh, hi, baby. What's her name? This is Rui. He is the Eldon Lord, we call him. Oh, he is beautiful. He's very handsome.

He's a Tappy? He's a Siamese lynx. Ooh, I've never even heard of that before. Yeah. Wow. What? He sounds really fancy, but they probably found him in a dumpster, honestly. And I found my dog.

And my dog was born in a dumpster in North California. So I feel yeah. I feel you. It builds character. Hey, you know, it's just part of life. You know, they're tough like that. Exactly. Well, I don't know if I would call him tough, but he's something.

He's tough in some ways. Yeah. But let's go, we're going to go a little bit into basically how you got into gaming in general. So we're going to go Blabbing in general. We're going to go blast at the past. So like, how did you first get into gaming? Like your like your first ever game. Do you remember?

I was gaming literally ever since I was a kid. Like some of my first memories were gaming. And I do have an older brother. So we had a lot of games that were like before when I was born necessarily. And so some of my first memories were of Zelda Ocreen of Time, Majora's Mask, Wind Waker, Super Mario Sunshine. Oh, that's my favorite game right there. They're good games, and it's coming to the Switch too.

I'm so excited. I'm so excited. But those are like some of the very first games that I remember playing. And literally, it was like a constant thing. It didn't matter how many times I had played them before. I have memories of waking up early for school to get to play Zelda Majors mask before I went to school. And then you just leave it on a pause menu and you turn off the TV, but don't turn off

the console. And that way it's ready for you when you get home. Wow, you were like hardcore gamer. Oh, I was in it. Oh, yeah. And since I had a brother, I was like, I would do that all the time. I would just leave it on the pause menu, turn off the TV. And he would come back and he would want a game.

And I'm like, no, I have a pause. I was going to play that. When did you guys separate it to like get your own consoles and stuff? probably when we were like, I think I was 10. He's three years older than me. So probably like 13, 12ish for him. Because it was around when Minecraft came out. He had gotten a laptop for Christmas like a couple of years before.

And so every once in a while, I would use his laptop to play to play games on his laptop. But then when Minecraft came out, he was the one that was like, hey, look at this cool game called Minecraft. And I was like, oh, my God, this game is sick. But then we had the same problem of I want to play it. So then I would just leave it on his laptop. And he'd be like, what's my laptop? I want to play. And I'm like, but I'm playing.

And then my parents were like, we can't keep doing this. They're fighting all the time. So then they got me, my own laptop. And then I started playing Minecraft. And that was amazing. But before then, we were fighting over the GameCube, fighting over the Wii. I unfortunately never had like a PlayStation or an Xbox growing up.

So I was like Nintendo only. So when I kind of got old enough to realize that there's like other consoles, except for Nintendo ones. I was like, wow, there's more games. There's a life outside of the same world. Right? I was like, you mean Zelda's not all of games? Why not?

So what would, if you had to choose like the favorite game of the childhood, like you can only remember one, which do you, would it be Minecraft or would it be like? No, I don't think it. I think it would probably be Zelda Windwaker. Oh, that's good one. To be honest, because I feel like that was the one that I played like all the time. And I don't know why I gravitated towards that one. But I loved that one.

And then, yeah, when Twilight Princess came out, oh, that was like eye-opening for me. That is still like one of my favorite Zelda games, like the atmosphere, the aesthetic of it, the whole story. Midna's still best girl, love her. Zelda Twilight Princess, still the best design for Zelda. I will stand on, I'll die on that hill. and it was, oh, so I feel like Winwaker was just the, for me, it was like the perfect

Zelda game for my childhood. It was amazing. It wasn't like too difficult for like a five-year-old to not understand it. But like, because I feel like if I were to go back and play Ocrowave of Time, I'm like, how do I start figuring these out at six years old? But like Winemaker was pretty easy, as long as you remember the, you know, the up left, like, song, stuff like that. It wasn't that terrible actually, You know, I think of, oh yeah, Ocariate time is, I'm like, I know, I don't think I get confused now.

I'm like, how did I do this when I was a kid? So you, uh, so you've been gaming for all your childhood, basically. Yeah. And then you also started to watch streamers during this time, right? Like you started watching, you know, people actually playing games, which is a weird concept back then. Now it's such a thing. Did you remember who you were watching when you first started? and watching Twitch streams?

Well, I think that I initially, like, the very first ones that I was watching was, like, all the big, like, gaming YouTubers back in the day, because I think that's kind of how I got, like, introduced to Twitch, was I was probably watching, like, all the big gaming YouTubers is probably, like, Captain Sparkles back in the day with all the Minecraft stuff. And, um, and then I was like, yo, Twitch is kind of cool. And I started to want to watch some of, like, whatever I wanted to watch is rather than just, like, the YouTuber streaming. And I was like, what games do I really like?

I like Zelda games. So I would go into a bunch of Zelda streamers. And this is back in like 2013. Like literally as soon as I was like able to have a Twitch account, I was like, I'm going to go on Twitch. I'm going to watch my streamers. And I just kind of found myself watching a lot of Zelda speed runs. That's kind of how I got introduced to speed running and learned what that was

because I'd never heard of it before. and I met a now friend of mine. His name is Demon on Twitch. And he was back then, like, world record holder for Wind Waker. I was like, oh my God, so cool. Like, fastest guy to play Wind Waker ever. And he comes into play later when I, like, first get into starting streaming. But that was, like, how I initially got into watching streams.

because it was first just like, wow, I like Minecraft. Minecraft is cool. But then it was like, let me branch out into some of the other games that I actually enjoyed growing up and get to see other people play them for the first time. And then that just transpired and transpired into me watching everything else on Twitch and now being here. That's actually that was actually a nice lead up

because I was wondering how watching these guys, you know, play these games. How did that influence you? you to becoming a streamer yourself. So I didn't have like the best childhood growing up, especially like later teenage years. And I feel like getting to watch all of these streamers growing up. It was like an escape for me almost.

Like I would come from school and my day would suck. And I was like, but I have this streamer who's live all the time. So I can just go like hang out in their chat. And it was it was so nice getting to be able to actually go into somebody's chat and like connect with. It wasn't the same as like a YouTube video. where you would just go and it was like pre-recorded, but you could like go there and it was like a sense of community.

It was great. I made so many friends in these Twitch chats back in the day. And it was, it felt so nice to just feel like you're a part of something. So I think that that kind of made me when I was getting older. I was like, I want to, I want to do that for other people. It's like, I remember how happy watching streamers made me, especially when I was going through like a not so great. childhood. I was like, I want to do that for other people. So I was like, I'm, I'm going to start

streaming. And if somebody, if I can make somebody's day better, then that's, that's good enough for me. And now we are, now we're here. So now, I know there's a couple people in chat there starting their like content creation era. Like they're starting to stream or make videos and stuff and that. So, uh, for those that want to get into streaming, like, what was like the biggest challenge when he first started streaming and you have like advice to others who feel like loss or felt like they're they're not getting anywhere. Well, I think the biggest thing for when I started streaming was actually just pressing go live because there was like this big lead up point to me first streaming where I was like,

oh, I don't want to go live yet. Like it's not perfect. Like I was trying to make my whole, my overlay. perfect. I was trying to get my alerts to be perfect. Like I just wanted to like start with the most perfect stream ever. And it just kept delaying me from actually starting stream because I was like, let me just continue working on it. And then I'll go live later. But like, it's never really perfect. Of course, I thought it was perfect at the time. And now I look back on my old clips and I'm like, ew. That's disgusting. But I think that that was like the worst part was just trying to get over the fact that it's not going to be perfect. And even still, I still have so many like tech issues on a frequent basis. But that's just like part of it. Like I feel like I've just made it. I just embraced it at this point.

I'm just I'm just the scuffed streamer. Like is it an Olivia stream of something doesn't go terribly wrong? No. I was literally doing a stream for Logitech two days ago. My camera stopped working. Like, like it happens. So I think that just, you have to like embrace the fact that it's never going to be perfect and you just have to you just have to do it.

And that's the most important part. I mean, I still struggle with that, especially when it comes to like other platforms. I think I'm used to it now with Twitch with just like, oh, I'll just stream and it's chill whatever. But I still get in my head about just like, oh, I don't want to post this TikTok. It's not perfect. But like, am I ever going to grow on TikTok if I don't post it? No. So like I definitely need to still get better at that.

but it's I think that's honestly like the most important part just doing it in the first place I mean it's idea like you know you miss 100% of shots you don't take so unless you're actually gonna do it you're not gonna get anywhere for that yeah I do want to get a little bit because I did have that question that is like your tagline is smooth brain scuff streamer so yeah did you coined the phrase? Did your audience, your community coin it? Or did it just kind of just evaporate it? It just kind of like happened. I don't know if it was necessarily me or my community. But I feel like it's a it's a pretty frequent thing in my streams for me to have my my smooth brain moments where there's just nothing going on upstairs. Nobody's home. The lights

are definitely not on. I quite literally just work here. And it just, it just, it just kind of happened. And now I just kind of, I just embrace it. That's just, that's just me. Smooth Brain. Scuff streamer.

No ridges or lumps or valleys or bumps. All ideas slide right off. I appreciate that. I love that. Yeah, and and really contributes to it. My cat, he's also very smooth, smooth brain. He does his best, but that's, that's, that's all we can really ask of him.

I was literally about to say that. I'm like, hey, you, as long as he's trying, you know. He's just, he, his job here is to be adorable. And does a job? I just stream when he's busy, he's the real streamer. I just, I'm just a placeholder. Everyone's really here for him. But he's tired right now, so he couldn't, he couldn't make it to the podcast.

I'm sorry. Oh, it's all. He's got busy schedule. I know. He's booked for the whole week, I know. Yeah. it was hard to pencil and pencil this and I know. So.

So I kind of want to ask your journey through streaming because I actually got a couple questions for people that wanted to ask about like, you know, the in-depth, like, part of like Twitch partner or everything like that. So if you can start from like the beginning of your Twitch stream to like what like to like when you became partner, if you can describe that journey. Okay. So I think my very, very, very first stream before I even necessarily like consider myself a streamer. It was like 2016

and I was literally just streaming to my friends. I think the very, very, very first game that I played was a horror game on stream. Believe it or not, because now I despise horror games. I can't do them. But it was an older game

called Emily wants to play. I think it came out in like 2015 or something. And I just on a whim, I was like, let me go start stream. My friend's been wanting me to play this game for a while. I'll just, I'll do it. And then this is where my friend from earlier, Demon, who was the Wind Waker Speed Rutter,

comes back into play. My very, very first stream ever, I hit live three minutes ago. He had just gotten a personal best in Wind Waker, raids me with 500 people. My very, very first stream. I had pressed live not even five minutes ago, and I had 500 people in my chat. And I was like, what am I? supposed to do. So I feel like I was immediately just like thrust into what being a streamer is. I had no, I, that was just it. And I was like, oh my God, what do I do?

So I will say that I had a pretty like insane first stream. I feel like most people are like, yeah, my first stream on Twitch, literally nobody came in the chat. And I was talking to myself the whole time, which I feel like is like the Canon. streamer first time experience. And that's fine. I always tell people to like not compare their streaming journey to me because I didn't have a normal one.

I got rated for 500 people my very first stream. Granted, did they ever stick around? No, because I didn't stream again to like seven years later. But it definitely made getting affiliated way easier because that's like the first step of streaming. And so for anybody in chat who might not know, you start on Twitch, just normal, you have an account, you press go live, whatever.

And then the first step is to be affiliated. I think that they've changed the requirements for it now. But back when I got affiliated, it was you had to have like an average of three viewers over 30 days. You'd have like 50 followers. And I think it was like 12 hours of stream time within like 30, 90 days. something like that. And I think a lot of people struggle with the followers and the three average viewers

is what a lot of people will struggle with to get affiliated. But because I had been on Twitch for so long at that point, I had a Twitch account for almost 10 years before I ever started like really streaming. I literally got all the requirements like like immediately. The only thing that was like holding me back from getting affiliated was like the hour requirement because I had to stream that long. And it took me like three days to stream that long, I think. But then as soon as I did that, I was like, boom, affiliated.

And I was playing Sekiro. And it was quite, it was, yeah, very first game that I streamed on. I was like, really trying to be a streamer, I guess. And then I took like a complete 180 pivot after I finished that game and I was like, we're going to play Stardue Valley, which is not the same at all. Um, so at first I was playing Sekiro, I was literally just streaming to like my friends. Like most of the people in my chat were like friends that I went to high school with, people that like were in my town growing up that I knew.

Like it was mostly, it was mostly friends. Um, and every once in a while I would have like old friends from like way back when I was watching Zelda speed runs like pop into chat and say hi and everything. And I think that that was just kind of like the perks of being on the platform for that long. Because I think that most other people that are just, just randomly on a Tuesday, like, I'm going to start streaming. Like, they don't really, they don't really have that, which makes it a little bit harder and can make a lot of people discouraged when it comes

to that because they're like, oh, I streamed for four days and I've been talking to myself. And I'm like, that's just kind of part of it until you kind of find a niche that you kind of mesh with a little bit. And I think that like the first little bit of growth that I ever really found was with Star Do Valley. and like the cozy community on on Twitch. It was it was insane because I feel like I had such wild growth for somebody who had started streaming like two months before that. Within like a couple of months of starting streaming, I went from 100 followers to like a thousand.

I was averaging like 50 viewers playing Starry Valley on like a pretty regular basis. So I think it was really just kind of It was just kind of up from there, honestly. I think that consistency played a huge part. I think that that's a lot of a thing that a lot of people don't necessarily take into account because I think, I feel like what I hear a lot with people starting stream and they're like,

I don't see any growth. And I'm like, well, when are you streaming? They're like, oh, this random time and this random time and this random time. And I'm like, well, people don't know when to expect you to be back. I was streaming almost every single day. Granted, do you have to do that? No, I don't recommend it because that's how you get burnt out so fast and have I gotten burnt out? Absolutely.

But I think that being consistent and having like some sort of schedule and having a time when people can expect you to be back helps tremendously with retaining people. And I think that that just kind of carried over and carried over and carried over and carried over. and even though I'm a variety streamer, I feel like that it being a variety streamer kind of hurts sometimes when you switch categories because you gain a lot of people from one game and they're there. They enjoy your stream, but they're mostly there

for the game. So when you switch a game, then you're going to see a drop in numbers. But if you're there all the time, then some people will be like, oh, I like the streamer and she's always here at this time. I can expect her to be back and I'll continue watching. You know? But it was

it was kind of steady around 40, 50 average for a while. And then right before Zelda Tears of the Kingdom came out, I was like, you know what, let's, I'd already played Breath of the Wild at the time, but I was like, let's do a replay of Breath of the Wild before Tears the Kingdom, kind of like drive the hype up for, for Tears of the Kingdom, kind of get everybody excited for it and we're going to replay it. And then I was like, wait a minute, I'm going to do something crazy.

I'm going to cosplay Zelda on stream while I play the game. game. So every single stream that I played, I was cosplaying Zelda for months. And it was so extreme. Looking back on it, I'm like, am I crazy for this? Because there's no way that you could get me to get into cosplay every single stream now. I would lose my mind. But I would literally come home, get into Zelda cosplay and then streamed for like four or five hours. and people ate it up. They were like, oh my God, not only am I getting my Zelda content, but I'm also getting to watch Zelda.

And I saw such insane growth with doing that because it was something that set me apart from the rest of the category because everyone's scrolling through. Oh, first play through, first play through, first play through. But then they're like, oh, somebody's cosplaying? That's pretty cool. and I found a lot of friends in the same category that would raid me for the first time

because they would see the cosplay and it would boost my analytics, it would be great, and that ended up being how I got partnered a little over a year after I started streaming, which is like insane. Normally it takes people, I don't know what the average is for like getting partnered on Twitch, but it's like a couple of years is like how long it takes

for your average streamer to get to get partnered. And I managed to get partnered in a year in like two, three months, because I started streaming in like May of the year prior, and I got partnered in the very beginning of August the year after. So, and now we're here. Still doing the same thing, less cosplays, not every single day cosplay, but every once in a while, cosplay every once in a while.

I, that was actually... Oh, go ahead, go ahead. Oh, I was going to say, that was actually a perfect question that someone asks is how to do with variety street because people get stuck into a silo, like, they can only play CounterShark or they can only play League of Legends. And you're kind of stuck into this, like, funnel of this is it. And like, this is the only audience that cares about it. And that happens with burnout. So people go, oh, but I want to play multiple games. But then you don't have a niche, you know, you don't have that audience that will stick around because someone that watches Lee won't necessarily watch someone to place Counterstrike.

So I think you answered it correctly is you just have to find something that makes you stand out prepared to everyone else. Yeah. Yeah. I did see a question in chat, though. There was when I started streaming. I started really streaming and like taking it more seriously, I guess, in 2022. I think it was it was May of 2022. And then I got partnered in August of 2023 because this year was my two-year partner anniversary. So yes, started in 2022, partner to 2023.

There you go. She leads it to another question. I saw it in your bio you said that you are taking a break from college to focus on mental health and enjoy life and everything like that. First of all, super appreciate how old. open your arm about that because I know that may be a little taboo to some people and being open and being you know willing to show like hey you know I'm dealing with stuff but like first how did you decide on that conclusion and then how has it been since you made that position so I was originally in college and I was planning on going to teach English in Japan that was like yeah odd career path I know

but that was originally the plan. So I was two years into college and I was paying out of pocket. I had no scholarships. I got no FAFSA. I was paying so much money to go to college. It hurt. And I was working at the same time. I was in college full time, like 13 to 15 credit hours, an insane amount.

I was also working part-time like three to four days a week at a restaurant and streaming. So I was doing quite a lot. And because I was I was minoring in Japanese to go teach English in Japan, I, my second year Japanese professor did not care. Oh my God, she gave us so much homework. It was unreal. And it would, oh my God. And like, I had a tutor.

I even went to a tutor, which. which was like such a hard, like, hurdle for me to jump over and be like, okay, I need a tutor. I started going to tutoring. And even he was like, hey, professor, you're giving a lot of homework. And she's like, okay, and I was like, okay. She did not care. And that was honestly, like that much homework was like my breaking point because there was, there was one time where I had, I would honestly, my sleep schedule during college was so messed up.

I would go to class in the morning. I would come home at like three, four o'clock, I would go to work at a restaurant until like 8, 9 p.m., 10 p.m. I would come home. I would take a nap. Not asleep, a nap. I would wake up. I would start stream at 2, 3 o'clock in the morning.

I would stream until like 6, 7, 8 a.m. I would take another nap and then I would go to class. Did that all week. Yeah, I was insane. My stream schedule for like a year and a half was starting at 3 o'clock in the morning. So how much sleep were you getting a day? Maybe like five hours.

Yeah, it was really bad. It was really bad. We'll get into that part later because that's no longer my stream schedule because we'll get into that later. But yeah, I was, I had like such an insane schedule. I had so much crazy homework. And I literally just had like a breakdown one day because I canceled stream that night. I was doing homework for like four hours, still wasn't done. I had a test in class that same day that I hadn't even gotten to study for.

And I was like, I'm going to bomb this test. And I still have all this homework. I think I had like a B in the class at the time, which like is fine. But it was about a drop because I was about to bomb this massive test. I sudden finish my homework. And I was like, I can't do this all semester. I'm going to lose it. I was losing it.

And I think I quite literally had a breakdown at like seven. in the morning. I, like, called my mom sobbing. And I was like, I can't do this anymore. And she was like, okay, which like, good on her for being like, okay, because I know most parents would be like, suck it up. But my mom, I think, could tell like how much I was struggling. And she was like, okay. Like, if you want to, you want to withdraw from classes? Okay, withdraw from classes. I was like, oh, thank God. And I was like so in my head at the time being like, oh my God, I'm making the wrong decision. Like, I'm not going to get a college degree. What if I never go back to college. Like I just wasted all this money and blah, blah, blah. Like, I'm going to be a failure and a

loser. But I think that it was 1,000 percent, like, the best decision for myself because I was losing my mind, literally. And then I just, I just kind of chilled out for a little while. It felt, it felt weird to see a lot of my other friends at the time, like, continuing through college. They were graduating. They were getting these cool jobs. and I'm just sitting here and I'm working at this restaurant and I moved back to my hometown. And like it hurt a little bit, but at the same time, I was like, but I'm happy.

And that's, that's what matters. I was like, it doesn't necessarily matter if I'm, I'm not necessarily doing what everyone else is doing because it was, it was making me happy. And I had like that epiphany at a friend of mine's wedding. A girl that I went to high school was, she had a wedding and she had this table of like all the people that we were sitting it was a bunch of people from high school.

We were all sitting together. And there was a point where everyone was basically going around the table being like, what do you do now? What do you do now? And it was like, I'm going to be a doctor. I'm in law school. I'm working with marine biology at this place in Alabama. And I was like, I play video games on the internet.

And I feel like everyone looked at me like, okay, loser. And I was like, but then I was like, I don't even talk to these people. Why do I care what they think? I play video games for a living. like you work with fish okay whatever and now it's I think it's 1,000% what I was supposed to do and now being where I'm at with streaming I'm like I feel like no sadness whatsoever about dropping out of college

maybe I'll go back one day but right now I'm like I'm chilling I'm happy who cares there you go and I think that's I think that's something that But everyone, especially myself as well, you know, dealing with his, you know, comparison is always a thief of joy, you know. Yeah. You can always be like, that guy, you know, I felt that when I was watching sports the other day. And it was like, this 19 year old kid is going to become the next Olympian athlete. This. I'm like, 19?

19 years old? Like. It makes you go, what am I doing wrong? Every, yep, there you go, my old. there you go everyone's journey is different so like i think that's something that everyone should learn is that like where you are in life it's fine it's okay yeah you know yeah if it doesn't look like somebody else's that's fine so it's probably it's probably better that way now that you are basically a full-time condescader can you walk us like a day into life okay so i i wake up probably

like 10 11 a.m i lay in bed i probably doom scroll for like an hour. But I'd like to tell myself that I'm looking for opportunities on Twitter. Because every once in a while I'm on Twitter, they're like, content creators, we have this opportunity. And I'm like, I can justify it now. And then I wake up.

And then I come to my desk and I look at emails. And then I probably will play games for like an hour or two, just offstream. Just whatever game I feel like. Um, recently I've been playing Minecraft again because of course everyone has to go through their, their yearly two-week Minecraft phase every year. Um, yeah, I pet Rui who's sleeping in his little hammock on my desk right now.

Um, and then I will, I'll get ready for stream. I will start stream probably like late afternoon, early evening. Stream for however many hours, get ready for bed. However, if I do have to film stuff that day, like NZXT stuff, I usually film that before stream, so less bed rotting, unfortunately. Terrible, I know. I love how different your college life was to now. Yeah.

I think you're really just catching up on like the sleep from the years. You've already lost years of your life for that. So you're just. Oh, probably. Probably. Yeah. I think I really just like burnt myself out so bad with college. that now I'm just like, I'm just lay in bed and just chill.

And maybe it's the fact that I turned 25 recently, but I'm like, oh, I'm really tired now. I'm getting old. So I'm like, oh, I've got to lay down. And then, actually, we had a couple questions from people that are asking what, so if for people that want to get into, you know, doing like tech coverage, like what you did with the keyboards or streaming or anything like that. Do you have gear or skills that you would recommend to people for them to like get first or if they don't even need it at all?

I think lighting is super important, super, super important. Because if you have really good lighting, you can make an iPhone look really, really good. However, I still did not want to do that because literally as I was trying to film stuff for I was like, yo, this looks bad. I was like, if I submit this NXT, I'm going to feel embarrassed, personally. And so I literally went out and I spent an arm and a leg on a camera. Don't do that. Don't do what I did. Don't because I could justify it in other ways. It was like, I can use it for streaming. I can use it for cosplay pictures. I can use it to film content for brands. Don't do that. Unless you're like in a position where you could like justify it like that, I would not

recommend doing that. But I think that lighting super important. I literally, when I first started streaming, I went on Amazon, spent like $30 on these random brand of key lights. It made such a difference in my streams. Because before, I was literally streaming in the dark with like my light being my monitor, the light coming from my monitor. But I think lighting can make anything look better, whether it's your stream, whether it's content that you're filming. Just even if you're just posting on social media, lighting can make it so much better. And it's really not that expensive for like an okay light. You know what I mean?

Like you don't have to spend $200 on lighting. You could literally buy lights on Amazon for $40, $20 even. And it makes a huge difference. I do think that if you're particularly leaning towards streaming though, a mic, make or break it. If you are using a headset mic, I'm begging you, please put it down. throw it away. Literally throw it in the trash right now. Take the headset mic, get rid of it.

You can get a decent, like, standalone mic for not that much money. My very first mic that I used for stream was a HyperX solo cast, which was, I think, like, 50 bucks. And, again, made such a difference because I did start streaming with a headset mic. And I look back on it, I'm like, oh, my God,

thank God, my chat was like, yo, get a mic. Because it makes such a difference. Um, and I really think that that's like the most important ones, truly. I think that those can like make or break making content for sure. And they don't have to cost a billion dollars. You can just get like decent ones. And it'd be fine. You talked a little bit about that.

So it was about burnout and dealing with either slow growth or like, I have to go fill something and dealing with it. How do you deal with burning out and risk of just basically imploding? Yeah. I mean, I think that's still something that I like

definitely struggle with, especially with streaming, because I think with streaming, since consistency is such a massive thing, it's always the, oh, I don't necessarily want to stream today, but if I don't stream today, then are they going to come back the next day? It's one of those kind of things because

on other platforms, I don't think it's necessarily as important. But with streaming, I'm always so hard on myself about showing up. And I think, I mentioned earlier, I would not recommend streaming every single day when you first start. Because even though you might see the growth of streaming every single day and you're going to feel motivated by the numbers, I think that that burnout from streaming every single day

was it's kind of caught up to me now and as much as I would like to stream every single day now I, I just, I feel like I can't bring myself to do it anymore. I feel like I, I just, by like day, by day five, I'm just like, oh, I feel just like I don't want to do it today. I don't feel like interacting with people. I'm an introvert.

And so it might not, it might not seem like it with my job being streaming, but like in person, I'm such an introvert. And so I feel like, like my social battery is just like so dead of interacting with people day after day after day for hours on end. And so I think that taking time off from streaming is, it's important. And a lot of the time off that I've that I've taken recently is not necessarily by choice. I've had my fair share of tech issues. I moved across the country.

I can't necessarily like stream when I don't even have a desk in the new house. You know what I mean? But I think that it's important to take days off. And even if you don't want to take like a full day off, even if you just want to accomplish something in that day, even though it might not necessarily be, oh, I'm not going to stream today. So I'm just going to be doing nothing all day, which is fine.

But if you still want to feel like you're doing something, then go apply for partnerships, go reach out to companies, go into other people's streams, make streamer friends. maybe you can make more friends on Twitch, maybe they'll come watch you one day, you know what I mean? Go work on something else for me. It could be working on cosplays, even though I'm not streaming. So it's, am I stressed all the time?

Yes. But I think that that's honestly, for myself, again, I wouldn't necessarily recommend it. But for myself, I think I'm just constantly in a state of stress that I'm just so used to it. And I think college kind of did that to me with my schedule in college. I was just so stressed at all times that I literally started having health issues, that I had to go to a doctor.

And I was like, I initially went because I was so tired all the time. I could sleep for 10 hours a day and still in the middle of the day be like, I need a nap and nap for like three or four hours. Like I was so exhausted all the time. And I finally went to the doctor and I got, I got blood work done. And they were like, yo, your vitamin D level, crazy low. And I'm like, that's probably because I don't see the sun.

Because I would literally, I would go to class. I would sit in a classroom all day. I would come home. I'd go to work. I'd be indoors all day. I would come home, not sleep, stream in the middle of the night. And then when the sun is finally coming up in the morning, I'd go to sleep. So I, on top of everything else, my vitamin levels were crazy.

So it really kind of made me take a step back from everything and go, okay, something's got to change. And that was like the turning point of me changing my stream schedule from streaming in the middle of the night. And as much as I was scared to do it because I was like, I've grown my whole community at this time zone. The prescription for touching grass is so funny. I saw that. That's like, that's pretty funny. literal prescription for touching grass. But I

just, it was so scary to switch my streaming schedule from the middle of the night to literally a 180 switch of streaming during the day because I was like, oh my God, everybody that shows up to my stream all the time, they're at this time zone. I'm going to start streaming at this time zone. Nobody's going to show up. I built my whole community and it's about to just go away

because I'm going to switch my time zones, basically. And as scary as, as, as scary as, it was, I think that it was just something that it had to be done. And of course, my analytics were like crazy for a little while because everyone that watched me before was like, yo, where are you? But

it's, honestly, I like it so much better now, streaming during the day, because I get to have a normal sleep schedule. Before, I feel like I would miss out on so many, so many things from just sleeping, all the time and having the craziest sleep schedule, I wouldn't be awake for a lot of things.

And I think it's so much better. So if anybody, now I will say, I've had a lot of other streamers agree with me on this. Streaming in the middle of the night might be a cheat code. If you're willing to sacrifice your sanity and your health to get good analytics on Twitch, stream in the middle of the night. 1,000% stream in the middle of the night.

My analytics were insane. because when you start stream that late, a lot of other people are ending their stream. They're going to raid into you. And then when you're ending stream, a lot of the EU streamers are starting easy raids. You know what I mean? You make a lot of friends all across the world.

However, then you're sacrificing your sleep schedule, your sanity. It's, if you're willing to do it, great. However, I will definitely say it with a warning that I personally, it's not worth it. It's, it's, it's, it might seem like it momentarily because you're like, wow, good numbers,

amazing, I'm gonna get partnered. And then for what? It's not worth it. So now I want to, you talked a little about it and I, I talked about an intro, which has been one of my most exciting parts I want to point out is you are a cosplayer.

So I, first, I want to show off people like you're a Blamey cosplay. because this is insane. Like look how good. Look at the details of the armor and everything like that. Like this thing looks amazing. Like let me see if I could.

Thank you. Like this thing, this is like, look at the armor on this. Like, it's so good. I gave you to hear her, like hear her speak right. I have millennia, blade of Mickelah. And I have never known defeat. It looks so good. So I did want to ask like,

how did you first get into cosplay? I initially got into it and I was not expecting to get into it, but I had a friend of mine who on a whim, she had lived in Florida and she was like, have you ever heard of this convention called Holiday Matsuri? And I was like, no, what is that? And it's like a holiday themed convention in Orlando, Florida. And I was just kind of like going through the whole stress of college. I think I had like just withdrawn from college. And I was like, I need a break. Let me go to Florida, hang out with my friends. I'll see what this convention's all about. She's making it seem really fun. And I went down there and she was kind of like trying to get me

to cosplay some stuff. And back then it was just like, they call it closet cosplays, where you just kind of take stuff out of your closet that kind of like might resemble a character. And you do that. And it's a very, very easy form of cosplay. And I went to, and I had so much fun. It was amazing. And I had never been to like a real convention like that before. Because before that, I lived in Kentucky. I lived in the middle of nowhere.

And I had been to a convention, but it was literally like, I walked around the whole convention twice in the span of 20 minutes. Like, it was so small. There was nothing there. So I, it was my first time experiencing like what a convention really is. And I was like, whoa, my mind is blown. and so I ended up going back the next year

and then I started finding conventions in other areas and meeting more friends and going to other conventions and it just kind of transpired from there because it went from oh I did these closet cosplay this year I want to like order a cosplay and then I met some some more friends who made cosplays

I ran into this one guy the second year that I went to Holiday Matsuri and a little did I know because he wasn't really, he was in like a very casual Spider-Man cosplay when I met him. But he came up to me while I was dressed as, um, Hinara from Naruto. And he does a little like photography stuff on the side. And he came out to me, he's like, hey, can I get a picture of your cosplay? I was like, yeah, sure. And then I had followed him on Instagram, whatever, to get the pictures later.

I had no idea until I looked at his Instagram later. He was in the cosplay contest of Holiday Matsuri, which is a massive cosplay contest. I think now it is like part of the World Cosplay Summit, like massive. Like the top of the top is like competing in that. competition. And that year he won an award for a Monster Hunter cosplay that he did. I don't know if anybody in chat is familiar with Monster Hunter stuff, but he did a whole like Rathelose armor set out of EVA foam. It was insane. But after seeing him and becoming kind of friends with him, I was like, should I start making some of my own stuff? That seems really cool, like really difficult,

but like it seems really cool. And so I started experimenting with trying to make things. And I was like, yo, this is kind of hard. And then I found out what 3D printing was. And I had a friend of mine that got me into 3D printing. And I was like, yo, this is pretty cool. And I could like make cosplay props out of this. And like it kind of does a lot of the detailing for you. Granted, it's still like a ton of work sanding and like putting everything together or painting it.

Like 3D printing is still not necessarily an easy, easy method of making cosplay stuff. But I think it's a pretty accessible way to do it. Granted, you have to like learn the software, figure how it works, like all that kind of stuff. But if you're, me personally, I struggle with EVA foam. It's very difficult for me. It doesn't make any sense. So 3D printing is is my weapon of choice. And I just started making costly props.

I think my very first actually, it might, oh my God, it's over here. I started with, I was in a Valerent phase. I started with Valerent weapons. My first one that I ever made was a Spectrum Classic from Ballarin. Very, very small, like normal sized prop, I guess. But my favorite thing about it is that it moves. Whoa. It also love it.

But then I was like, I want to make bigger stuff. And then I, on a whim, I, on a whim, I, was like, I should make more stuff from Valorant. And hence my Fade from Valoran cosplay, mind you, what I'm about to show you is currently broken. But then I made the Neptune Vandal, which this part did fall off. I have to glue this back on. But I made the Neptune Vandal from Valerent.

Although I don't play anymore, I love cosplaying Fade, one of my favorite characters to cosplay. I think she's awesome. and I love walking around with this because people love it because it's a fishy gun. Who doesn't want a fishy gun? And then personally, that just wasn't enough for me.

So then I decided, why don't I just make armor? And there we are with Melania. And now I think I'm deep enough into it that I am actually competing in my very first cosplay competition tomorrow.

With millennia. Um, and I hopefully, it'll go well. That's some luck. You got the, I mean, look at this guy. It's like easily podium finish. No, no doubt. I hope. How, fingers crossed.

How long did it take to make all this? Months. Months. Wow. Months. Granted, I wasn't like working on it super consistently. It would be like, oh, I would print a piece. And first of all, 3D print.

takes forever. Like, I actually just had to reprint the sword. I had to remake the sword completely because long story short, I took it to TwitchCon. Love Twitch sometimes. However, they broke my sword. Yeah, they broke my sword. They wouldn't let me in with it.

I left it at bag check. I came back to get it to take pictures at the end of the day. I came back and it was snapped in half. And I was like, you're kidding. I don't know how it snapped in half because there's steel rods in it, by the way. Yeah, but they snapped my Melania sword in half.

So I had to remake it. It took like 48 hours to reprint the sword in its entirety. And like the, that's just to print it. I still have to like put it together, sand it, paint it, like all of it. And making all of the armor. So I'm sure you can only imagine how long it would take to print the helmet, the arm, the sword all together, probably like weeks. Jeez.

I think the helmet alone was like close to 30 pieces. it was a lot. And it was a lot of pieces like not printing correctly so then you have to print it again. It was such a pain. But honestly, I think it was worth it because that is like

one of my coolest cosplays that I've ever made. And now I want to get into making more armor sets. So if anybody's played the Eldon Ring, Shadow of the Earth Tree DLC, hopefully eventually I will make Rilana's armor

and I'll cosplay Rilana of the twin moons. She's so cool. Love her. But hopefully I'll do that one at some point. But it, months of like on and off working on it. I was like crunching before TwitchCon because that was where I first did Malania. And it was.

Oh my God. So, so stressful the last like two weeks of it because I was finishing everything, painting everything. So many breakdowns. You know, cosplay is such a fun hobby. But at the same time, it's, it's. It's one of those things that you do where, like, while you're doing it, you're like, oh my God, what a terrible. Why did I pick this hobby?

I hate it. I hate myself right now. This, everything sucks. But then as soon as you get to the convention and the first person that stops you and they're like, oh my God, it looks so cool. I'm like, worth it. I forget all about all the pain and suffering that I just went through. I immediately am just like, thank you.

Makes everything better. I mean, you talked a little about it. What's something that, like, is someone that wants to get into cosplay? Like, what's something that you should, like, look out. for going to these conventions and everything like that or even making your cosplay? I guess in terms of like getting cosplays, making cosplays, if you're going to order it,

there's a lot of like not great websites to order cosplays from. It would definitely like do your research on what websites you're ordering cosplays from. I've definitely ordered my fair share of cosplays from like Ali Express and they always sucked. Don't do that. Especially if you're like really on a budget, I guess you can. But like I wouldn't recommend it. They're probably going to come in something

broken, not right, sized weird. Something's going to be wrong, almost guaranteed. But at conventions, somebody's not going to be wearing Diodron, unfortunately. That's just part of it. It happens every time. But I think conventions are a blast. If you guys have never been to one, they're amazing,

amazing artist Alley's, amazing cosplayers. I've met so many amazing cosplayers. And most of them are always super, super nice. You go up to them, hey, can I get a picture? And they're super nice. I will say that there's definitely a fair amount of people at conventions that are not always necessarily nice. And unfortunately, in my experience, it's a lot of like the, there is like a group of like influencer cosplayers, I feel like. And then there's like what I honestly call like the clout chaser cosplayers who only want to talk to you if you like have a certain amount of followers.

Like I literally, I was at MoMoCon a couple years ago, which is in Atlanta. And I was, they're kind of late at night because there's always like the aftercon stuff that's going on where you just kind of meet a bunch of people. And I remember this guy literally was talking to me and asked, I was like talking to like one of his friends and he asked for my Instagram. And I remember he pulled up my Instagram. I was like, cool. And then just locked his phone. And I was like, oh, okay. I thought we were going to like be friends.

I think he literally pulled up my Instagram and was like, anyways. I was like, okay, that's tough. That's gross. Yeah, I was like, oh, me, mind you, I found his Instagram later and I was like, you were doing that to me? That's crazy. I was like, that's tough, but.

I'm not surprised. Yeah, there's going to be that group of people at conventions, which is always kind of unfortunate, but I think that most people are there to just have a lot of fun. And most people are always super, super, super nice. Highly recommend. Conventions are a fantastic time. But just make sure you don't get scammed if you're buying a cosplay off of a

sketchy website. I don't know we talked a little bit about what to look out for, but do you have like your favorite memory at a convention? Hmm. I think it was probably TwitchCon wearing Melania. I've honestly, I've met so many. amazing streamer friends through literally just wearing Malenia. And there have been people that have come into my chat not knowing who I was

at all. And then just on a whim, I happen to be talking about cosplaying at TwitchCon when they come in. And they're like, you were that Melania at TwitchCon. And I was like, yeah, I was. Did you see me? They're like, I saw you going up the escalator. And I'm like, that is, that is so cool to me that people will just randomly come find me. And then they'll recognize me from a cosplay that I did or they will, I went to like the Valorant meetup at TwitchCon, even though I don't really play, but I was cosplaying fate at TwitchCon.

And I went to the meet up and I got to meet so many people because they were like, yo, that's a sick cosplay. And honestly, it kind of helps me again, because I'm introverted. I'm always too nervous to go up and talk to people at conventions and stuff and like try to make friends with them. But I think the cosplay really helps me because if I have a really cool cosplay on, then they come up and talk to me first. I can make friends.

I can't start a conversation, but I can continue it. So it kind of helps me get over that hurdle of like making friends at conventions because hopefully they'll come up to me first. Because I'm way too scared to go talk to people. So it helps a lot. Do you have like the dream

cosplay or project that you want to do but you haven't gotten to or you just don't think you can do it? I don't honestly just armor stuff. I want to work more with like EVA foam. And I want to learn how to do that more. I think that I'm kind of finding a niche almost in making armor cosplays.

Even though Melania was the only one that I've done, I'm about to cosplay The Revenant from Eldon Ring Nighter reign at TwitchCon this year, who doesn't have any armor, but she has a lot of these medallion things that she wears, and she has all, like, a harp. And I love

making stuff that isn't, I feel like when you're cosplaying things from either, like, an anime or a more, like, cartoon-y game, I always feel this pressure of, like, making everything absolutely seamless and perfect, because that's how it looks in the show or the game.

or whatever, but if it's like armor or something a little bit more realistic, I feel like I can be easier on myself, especially with weathering props. That is like my favorite thing to do is to weather them with with paint and make them look like scuffed up and like real. Um, so I think that I'll definitely be making more armor stuff in the future and hopefully making bigger armor projects because right now Melania is like obviously the helmet and the arm and like the leg armor but like I want to do like both arms full legs chest armor like I want to do the whole thing but obviously that's going to take forever that's going to take some time I can't I can't imagine a full armor set coming out of a 3D printer or DEV oh my gosh I can't imagine that yeah it would take a long time

but they always look really cool so it's worth it is worth it Oh, yes. So we actually had a lot of people asking for advice with working with brands. So we're going to kind of dive into your experience with like I like you literally just said a couple of like 20, 30 minutes ago. You'd work with Logitech for a bit. So first, we want to talk about. Oh, yes, you are an Ubisoft partner, which is really cool. I am.

And you tried out as a Crete Shadow. So like how did you become a partner? come around? Honestly, I didn't even know that it was really a thing. I feel like I was kind of really behind with like the whole working with brands aspect of streaming. I still feel like I'm kind of behind with it. But I feel like a lot of my streamer friends that I was making back when I first started,

when they started seeing the same kind of growth, I feel like I always saw them working with so many brands. I'm like, how are they getting these opportunities? First of all, I was not on Twitter or X. I'm still going to call it Twitter until the day I'd die. Twitter, tweets. Yeah. I'm not calling it.

But as much as I hate the app, it's where a lot of opportunities are, to be honest. That's honestly how I kind of got involved with you guys. I initially, I saw that you guys had your headquarters meeting thing. And I found it on Twitter. I would have never found it if I wasn't on Twitter. And I applied for it, got it, came in. I met you guys, it was great. And I was just talking with some other streamers

when it comes to like company, especially like gaming company partnerships. There's the Ubisoft. I know that like EA has a creator network. A bunch of bigger games have creator network. So even if you're not playing necessarily the same type of games that I, and if you're a Fortnite stream or whatever,

like they all have creator programs for the most part, unless you're playing some like really niche indie game or something. But a lot of companies will have some sort of partner program. And honestly, you just have to Google it. Like a lot of, a lot of the first stuff that I found,

I literally just Googled whatever company I liked, partner program. Saw what come up. If something comes up, cool. If not, move on to the next one. And you just, you just apply for them. But, um, I think something that has really helped me is

finding the media managers of companies on whatever websites and getting in contact with them directly. Because even though you might submit an application through their partner website, whatever, it's always going to be better if you can reach out to the... It's just kind of like any other job where if you could directly reach out to the hiring manager, you're going to stand out a little bit from everybody else. You know? So I think that that's something that's super helpful.

And honestly, it kind of worked out when I was working with you guys. is because although I initially I got into the thing to come to your guys' headquarters, I wasn't able to go the first time. But I think it kind of worked out because in between the first event and the second event that I did go to, I got to meet Rudy, who was at Dreamhack Dallas. And I think because I was able to meet Rudy before I went to the event, I think that that was honestly a good thing because I was so sad about not getting to go to the first event. but then getting getting to meet Rudy, I think made such a difference.

And now I'm now I'm working with you guys. So getting to meet the media managers of companies, I feel like can make such a difference. But just finding opportunities is honestly, sometimes you just have to look for them. Just literally go out of your way to just search opportunities for companies and apply for them. was another thing where it was it was really hard for me to to do that initially because I was like,

oh, I'm a small streamer. I don't want to, I don't want to apply. They're just going to reject me. But then I saw another streamer and say something like, oh, well, you already don't have a sponsorship. What are you going to have if they say no, not a sponsorship? You already don't have it. So you're not losing anything by applying for it. Like, the worst they're going to say is, is no. And while the no does kind of hurt sometimes, it's, it's, it makes such a different. And yeah, Clever also said a media kit. I did not want to make a media kit for so long because I was always comparing myself to other people.

And I would always say, oh, I don't want to put my numbers on a media kit because they might not be as good as the next person. But having a media kit is so much better for, say some media influencer manager of a company goes to your page. What are they going to want to see, your analytics? And then they can immediately get an idea of what you do, how many followers you have, your interactions, whatever. And then they can go from there if they want to work with you or not. But if they have to search for it, they're immediately going to almost kind of get a little turned off and be like, oh, I have to search for it.

This is a lot of work to work with this person. So that also makes a huge difference. I will say that a lot of, I see a lot of people just starting streaming. there are the companies like stream elements, stream labs, who offer a lot of sponsorship opportunities, sponsorship opportunities. And my advice to you guys, a lot of them don't take them,

because a lot of them are like, oh, the Raid Shadow Legend sponsorship, we'll pay you $20 up front, but then we'll give you $5 for every person you get to sign up and spend their life savings on this game. And it's not worth. It might seem great. I'm sure people can make money from it, but in my own experience, I feel like it's just, A, the money's not that great unless you're just really like pushing your chat to go sign up for it, which is not a great look. I personally can't find myself to be like a salesperson to be like, guys, you should go sign up for this game that I really don't care about. It's hard. So a lot of, a lot of those types of sponsorships, I think are definitely red flags.

They don't like to pay creators for the work that they're doing, really. It's more of an affiliate thing, to be honest. And I think that that's something that a lot of companies will try to like push under the rug where they'll be like, yeah, we'll partner with you. But we're only paying you if you get somebody to come buy our products. And then it's like, well, what am I doing then? you know. So I think that that's definitely something

to be wary of if you're starting streaming. There's going to be a lot of those opportunities that you might see initially and be like, yo, I can get paid for streaming, but it's really not what it seems. So just kind of be wary of that. But I won't say that all of them are bad because I'm not going to lie,

I literally got to work with Logitech through Stream Labs. So they're not all bad. Just be careful. Be careful of them. Sometimes they can be good, but a lot of times they're not. So. And then like what parts of like a brand partnership is like most important to you? You know, there's people that will care about like, you know, getting products or, you know, having creative freedom on what they can do.

Like what's the most important for you and for others should really keep an eye out for? for me personally, I think that it's if I personally like the company or the products that they're putting out, um, I, you will never see me working with a company that I don't like. Even if they come to me and they're like, I'll pay you $10,000. I'm going to be like, your brand kind of sucks though. And I, I think granted, does every, does every creator have, have their limit? Yes, you will always see a creator sell out. but I think that that's definitely what's important to me is if I if I like the company because it's going to be exponentially harder for me to sell a product to my audience if I don't

like it because I think that they can see that. That's I always feel like my my chat and my audience can always tell when I'm not like fully behind something even if it's just me playing the game. If I'm not like having fun with the game, my chat can tell 1,000% and they're not going to want to watch it because they want to watch somebody who's excited about the game that they're playing. And if I'm not having fun, they're not having fun.

So I think that that's the most important. But I think as you kind of get more and more into it, there's more things that come into play because then it's when you're getting bigger deals, it's going to be, do you want them to have rights to whatever you're creating for them for X amount of time? do you want to get paid for that? You have to be able to also negotiate these things.

Don't always just take whatever a brand comes at you with and be like, sounds great. Ask for something different. You can ask. And I honestly, that was also another thing that was kind of hard for me initially was, was asking for things from brands because in my mind, if I were to ask for something and they were to tell me no,

then in my mind I'm going to be like, oh my God, they hate me and they're just going to be like, scrap the whole thing. We don't want to work with you anymore. You ask to get paid. Throw it out the window. We hate this creator. But that's not the case.

If they're reaching out to you to work with you, they want to work with you. But it's a scary thing to ask to get paid. And not every form of payment from a company might look like dollars in your bank account. Some payment from companies could be, hey, we're giving you. you this product and that's it. And that's up to you to decide if that's something that you want to do or not. A lot of games or a lot of companies in the industry will, they won't necessarily pay you.

I'm not saying that people don't get paid to play games. That definitely happens. But a lot of times it's just, hey, we're going to give you this key. If you want to play it on stream, cool, if not, whatever. And it might sound cool to get just free games. And it is. Don't get me wrong. But also a lot of these like free game keys, free game keys,

they come with restrictions or they come with, you have to do X, Y, and Z if you're going to accept the game key type of thing. So, yeah, reviewing contracts, very important. Get somebody who, if you're going to get a contract and you're not 100% sure about it, get somebody to read it. Even if it's just like a friend or just somebody else, I think it's important to just have other eyes on a contract that aren't yours. because especially if it's something that you're really, really excited about,

you might be like, hey, this sounds great, but there's going to be like a clause in the contract that's like, we are entitled to your firstborn child. You're going to be like, but I like the company, so it's fine. And you might be kind of like blinded by your excitement of working with a cool company, but if it's not a good contract, then like, don't, don't do it, obviously. But I think that that's also super, super, super important. Just read your contracts.

But also just be brave, which is scary, and reach out to companies to ask for things. Again, the worst that they can say is no. No company is ever going to look at you and be like, well, we kind of think they're the worst creator ever and you should probably just stop and give up. No, no company is going to ever say that to you. Literally the worst are going to say is, hey, we just, we don't either have it in the budget right now. We're not looking for anything. Our partnerships are closed at the moment. your analytics aren't where we want them to be,

we'll hopefully work with you again in the future. That's literally, I'm telling you right now that's the worst it's going to be. And if they give you something worse than that, you don't want to work with them anyways. That's a scary company. But like, that's all it's going to be. And if you can accept the fact that that's what you're going to hear back

if it's a no, then you'll be fine. You'll be fine. Just ask for things. And I'm not saying go to a company and be like, can I get a PC? looking at NZT's comments right now. Can I get me easy? Every day.

Yeah. Yeah. Everybody's like deleting my message. That's actually a really good point is that as someone that like worked with a lot of partners and influencers, if you get a response back, you're on their radar. If you don't get one, hey, that's happens. you know, there's some, there's a lot of people, a lot of companies like, you know, if you're asking like, you know, Apple or, or, you know, like, these huge, you're going to get, you may not get a response back. But if you get a response back from a company, just know, you are on their radar because they don't have to do that. They can just go delete, but they go, oh, yeah, you know, hey, we're, we're going to look, we're not going to do this right now.

They'll have you on like a list of like, hey, you know, if we need to do something, you know, down the road with a. a PC creator will have them on this list or like, oh, they are a streamer, those have them on this list. They'll have, they have. So that's the thing. Yeah. And it's, you may get a know a couple of times before you get a yes. Like I, again, I worked with Logitech two days ago, even yesterday.

I've applied to work with Logitech. It would probably take me two hands to count on it. I've applied to their partnership program so many times. In the three years that I've been streaming, so many times. I have literally never heard a peep, not even a, hey, we got your response, no. I get like a confirmation email, maybe that they received my application. But it was that one time that I was like, let me apply for this. And then I worked with them.

So it's just, you just have to keep trying for it. And that's what matters. Brendan actually has a good question. How long do you think someone should wait to try again with a company, like a year or anything like that? Is there a time frame that you specifically look for? I think that there's a specific time frame that I necessarily look for. I think it's important to also think about the company as well, as well as yourself,

because I would wait a little bit to if you don't hear anything back, maybe work on your analytics, try to get your analytics better. and then you can come back to them with something better than before. But also think about the fact that these brands have quarters that, hey, it's not the budget for this quarter, apply again quarter two, quarter three of the year. Maybe they'll have it in the budget then to work with you. Or I believe that a lot of companies, I know that Clever in chat is from my community.

He works with a lot of companies doing contract work. He can probably attest to this more than I can, but I believe that a lot of companies work for or look for creators at the start of the new year. So towards the end of the year, beginning of the new year, be working on yourself, pitching yourself to companies

because that's when they're looking for people to work with because it's the brand new year. They're like, let's get a head start on everything. And you want to be upfront in their face, hey, I'm ready to work with you guys. Here's what I have to offer. I think that also having a good pitch for a company

is something that's also important. For the longest time, I had no idea how to email a company. company. I had no idea. I was emailing companies and I'd send it to my friend and she's like, what are you doing? And honestly, that very first, what are you doing when I sent it to my friend and like received criticism about how I was emailing companies? It hurt because I was like, oh my God, maybe I don't know what I'm doing. But now I do know what I'm doing and it's better. So again, having like some sort of peer review of somebody who might know a little bit more of

what they're doing is super, super nice. But having a good pitch is really important. Going to a company and you can even just like Google like a brand pitch for an influencer and just like, I wouldn't say copy and paste it, but like tweak it to what you need of basically you just want to go, hey, my name is so and so. I would love to work with you guys doing X, Y, Z.

Always, always give some sort of X, Y, and Z of what you would like to work with them on. You could just go to a company and be like, hey, I'd love to work with you guys. but if there's something specific that you would like to work with them on, they're going to be like, oh, let me keep you in mind for this exact thing, which is going to sound better. And then I would even give some sort of, this is what I do. So like, I'd love to work with you guys on this.

Here's an example of what I do. And you could say I was applying for some other tech sponsorship. And I was like, hey, I'd love to work with you guys on this new release. This is what I did for NZXT. would you guys like to possibly work together? And it's going to sound way better than like, hey, I want to work with you guys. Just you got to be specific and you got to get to the point. Don't drag it out for super long because I used to do that.

And then my friend was like, dude, they don't care. They're not going to read all that. They're going to open that email and be like, oh, God, why'd they send me a novel? They're not reading that. Do you have a, before we get into the rapid fire question, do you have a dream collab that you would love to happen and you can speak into existence, you know? I really want to work with companies doing more cosplay stuff because I already work with companies doing like the game promotion stuff on Twitch.

But I would love to, a lot of companies will have booths at conventions where people can go and they can play the game in person to promote an upcoming release. And this is, this can be at any convention that could happen at packs. it can happen to TwitchCon, whatever. And I would, every once in a while, they'll have cosplayers at the booth to promote the game. They even had this at the Capcom booth

at TwitchCon this past year, I believe. They were promoting Monster Hunter Wilds. They had a couple of Monster Hunter cosplayers at the booth. And I was like, oh, I want to do that one day. So I would love to be able to cosplay for a company. I would love, if a company ever reached out me and was like, hey, we would love for you to cosplay for our game. Here's the character.

If you could make a cosplay for it, I would literally like fall over dead. I would be like, oh my God, I would lose my mind. I, that would be the coolest thing ever. I feel like that's, that would be like my I made it moment. If I'm getting paid to go to a convention and promote something with my cosplays, ooh, oh, yeah, give us a cosplay build challenge. That would be so sick. I've even reached out to brands have been like,

Hey, I would love to make something from your game to promote your upcoming release. You're releasing this game. Let me make a weapon from the game and show that process to promote the game. That's pretty cool. Right? Wouldn't you be like, hey, Eldon Ring Night Rain, she's making this sword from Eldon Ring to promote the game? That'd be kind of cool, right? That's not too really smart.

So maybe one day. Right? So maybe one day. One day we'll get there. Got to win a cosplay contest first. No. then we'll see well that's coming soon i bet i it's on it's on its way i can set i can see it fingers crossed all righty so uh we're going to go into my favorite section which is rapid

fire because i could ask the most random questions i'll ease it in with the easy ones in the beginning okay and it will get some weird to the weird would you rather okay just get ready for that and then we'll go ahead and give the code word for those that are waiting for that code Okay. All right. So for the first one, like I said, we're easing in.

We're going to make it easy. I see that you're a big reader. So what's been the best book you've read this year so far? I had all time ready to go. And then you said this year. And I'm like, oh my God, I don't know.

Um, oh my God. I'm suddenly forgetting like every single book that I've read this year. Um, I just finished a duology called the Crimson Moth duology.

Where did I put it? I just moved it. I have no idea where I put it on my shelves. But that was fantastic. Love that series. It was great. Very quick, easy read. I'm currently reading a book called Fantasma.

I'm like 90% done with that. I'm a very big fantasy person. Fantasy, I eat it up. Eat it up. So all of this, fantasy, except for this. This is like manga right here.

That's like my one manga shelf. And I guess says you know the question was the best book you've ever read that. Oh, even has it. I have two of them. One Dark Window by Rachel Gillig. I have this and the special edition because I love it so much. This is a duology.

It's called the Shepard King Doology. I will never shut up about this. If you ever come in my stream and want to talk about books, I'm going to tell you this one every single time. Every time, without a doubt. I will read a grocery list by this woman. I love her so much. I adore her.

Give us a quick, click, like, spiel on it. Um, so basically there's, if you guys have ever heard of like this, I think it's the Stephen King, the mist. Oh, yeah. Imagine a world like that, but like Gothic fantasy. Um, there's basically a mist that's like surrounding the town. It's like a curse that was put on them. And there's this super unique magic system that's based on tarot cards, which is super, super cool. Um, the main character has like a voice trapped in her head. Turns out it's one of the cards. She has like, like, Like this, if you get cursed by the mist, you basically sick, they're going to kill you. They don't like it.

But she is like hiding the fact that she's cursed because she has the voice in her head. And basically they have to go on like this journey to collect all the tarot cards to release this curse upon their, their town, their village, their city. But she's like dealing with this voice in her head like the whole time. Amazing. Love it. Incredible. I feel like I didn't sell it very well. Read it.

I'm begging. If you have one book that you're going to read this year. every time. There's not a day that goes by that I don't think about that book. I love fantasy books. I added it to my Amazon cart too, so I'm with you on that.

That's so good. It's so good. If anyone wants to start getting into reading, I highly recommend fantasy, but you have to find the fantasy book that has like a cool magic system. That, it changes your life. I got into Miss Bourne.

Coolest thing. It's right there. It's so good. If anyone has a chance to, Miss Bourne is also amazing. amazing cool magic system. Brandon Sanderson is amazing. So.

Yeah. And I guess a question for those that, because we have a lot of gamers in the thing, how do you balance reading and gaming and like trying to, you know, because read takes a while, you know. It does. It does. And honestly, I don't read as much as I wish I could because obviously I have like a billion books on my shelves.

A lot of these are gifts from my viewers. I have a wish list and literally I always fill it with books. I'm running out of room on my shelves at this point because everyone just sends me books. And I love it. But I don't get to go through them as fast as I would like. And so I always read before bed. Literally what I do to like wind down for the night, I used to just doomscroll on TikTok all the time.

But then I was like, first of all, reading can get through my books. Second of all, I think it winds you down for sleep so much better, obviously, than doom scrolling on TikTok. I have a Kindle, which makes it a billion times better because obviously just like reading at night, you would need some sort of light. But I was so graciously gifted a Kindle by my community. And it has helped. It has literally like changed my game of reading so much.

Or luckily at my old job that I was working in Kentucky when I was I was bartending, any downtime that I would have at work, I had the Kindle app on my phone. I would just read on my phone at work. because I would get bored at work and I'm like, why do I want to doomscroll? So I would sit there and I would read while was it work. It was great. Mothcat in the chat

has, I think, an amazing upcoming stream for you is a co-read stream. Everyone reads quietly together with some music. I think that was pretty fun. I think that people do that. I think there's like a co-working category on Twitch. I've honestly never done a co-tecule. working stream. I know that clever in chat

has. He probably knows more about them than I do, but it's a thing on Twitch. It's the, I think the genre is called co-working. I don't know if there's like a hyphen. Yeah, co-working and studying is the category on Twitch.

And people literally just sit there and play lo-fi music and everyone just sits there and gets their work done together. It's like a it's like an accountability thing. Wow, I like that. Everyone sits there. Yeah, there's like a timer that will usually happen of like we're going to work for this long and then when the timer's done,

then we're all going to sit and we're going to chat for a little bit and then chat for 10, 15, 20 minutes, and then we go back to working. It's great. I like that. I'm going to, I'm adding down to my list too. I got two, my things I just added right now. That's sick. Yeah. I love it. Let's see. Oh, favorite game that you're playing right now. As much as it hurts, Hollow Night Silk Song. Hollow Night Silk Song. Oh my God, that game is abusive. It's mean. I thought I was good at Hollow Night.

They just spit in my face. But that's how you, that's how to keep you going. But I like it. I know. It's such a good game. I'm a friend. Oh, God, that he, I was listening to him on Discord the other day. He was, I forgot which boss he was trying to fight.

He was trying to fight one of them. And I literally would just hear, it would be quiet. Then like, another couple of minutes go by. And then I just, you know, And eventually, like, after like two hours, he just leaves like, I'm going to bed. And I'm like, oh, okay. Okay. Yeah.

I am having like generational crashouts playing that game. Unreal crash outs. Like, I was crashing out at Eldon Ring. I think that Silk Song is bringing out like a different beast than me, and I don't think I like him. More than a Sekiro, too? Maybe. If I'm being honest, I don't think I remember a whole lot of my Sekiro play through. I think that I

I think there was like a small handful of bosses that like I was struggling with in Securo but I feel like Securo was more like a while it was like a skill check kind of game there wasn't anything like stupid about it it was it was quite literally just either you get good or you're not doing it but I feel like a lot of the things in Silk Song while I love the game I love Team Cherry

I don't love some of the things that they did with the game a lot of it just feels unfair in some ways. And I, a lot of like the, they're called gauntlets in the game where if it'll be a room, but instead of a boss, it's just like waves of enemies, a lot of them will have like hazards on the sides of it where it'll keep, normally it'll be like a gate that'll come down.

You'll be locked in the room, but some of them have hazards where like if you hit it, you'll take damage. But to balance the fact that you heal for like three hearts at a time in Silk Song, I think that they made a lot of things the game do double damage. And so, but they also made a lot of the enemies do double damage as well. So you start with five masks, hearts. And if you get hit by the boss and by getting hit by the boss, you then kind of like

fall into the hazard on the side or like hit the side because you like bounce from getting hit, you have four hearts gone like that. You're one. And you're sitting there, you're like, it's been point three seconds. And I just lost 90% of my health. What is that? And it's, oh, yeah, it's tough. But you keep going back to it.

It keeps coming. I don't. What's wrong with me? What is wrong with me? Yeah. Do you have a game other than it? Other than it's so excited to stream next? A lot of my community's been asking me to play The Witcher 3.

Oh. I've never played The Witcher before. Because I didn't grow up with anything other than like a GameCube and a Wii, there's so many games in series that I missed out on for so long because I just didn't know about them. So I've never. been into the Witcher. I don't know anything about the Witcher series.

And then I remember seeing that the Witcher 4 got announced. And everyone was like, well, you have to play the Witcher 3 now. So I would definitely be playing that at some point. I don't know when, though. But that's also going to be another game that I could probably do some pretty easy cosplays for on stream while playing the game. So maybe we'll do some Witcher stuff. I think you played Cympunk, right?

I did recently. I did. Same company. You'll love it. I'm gonna be honest though. I know this is like such a hot take. I love cyberpunk. Like it was okay.

It was okay. I know this is like an insanely hot take. I'm not gonna lie. I think part of it is with streaming. I have a really hard time like paying attention to cut scenes and dialogue because I'm usually interacting with chat when I'm not like in the action of the game. And so I feel like it's really hard for me to get like immersed in a story. And I feel like some of the characters in cyberpunk

just kept talking and talking and talking there was a cutscene with somebody that I'm not even kidding if I didn't skip through it that cutscene must have been like 15 minutes long because every time I would like skip through dialogue there was more and I'm like how are you still I haven't said anything you're going on the craziest monologue of all time and so and so every time that there was like a cutscene like that I'm just like oh my God can you shut up please let me just go beat something up

that's what I'm here for but At the same time, there's like there's Expedition 33 which at that point playing that game, normally I wouldn't care about cutscenes, but during those cutscenes I was like guys, shut up, shut up, chat, shut up. I'm busy, I'm watching the cutscene.

Expedition 33 if it doesn't win game of the year, it's rigged. Or Silk Song? Do you think Silk Song win or do you think? I don't know. I got to be honest. I think that Expedition 33 is still better. Maybe I just have too many qualms with Silk Song, I think Expedition 33 was like game of the century quality.

Yeah. Like if I'm talking, if I think of games of like the 2000s and beyond so far, Expedition 33 is 1,000% like up there for me of like first games that I'm thinking of that are like the best games that I've experienced in this whole time. For sure without it out. That game destroyed me. I'm sad that I don't have the Vod on my channel anymore because when I finished that game, I was sobbing.

Unbelievably sobbing for like two hours. I've never had a game make me feel like a bad person. That was the first. That's good. Let's see. Oh, what's the most surprising thing you've learned about your community? I don't know if it's something that I've learned necessarily, but a lot of, I love seeing that a lot of my community interacts with each other.

I love seeing friendships form from a community that I've built. I've literally had two people in chat right now, Big Mike and Clever, they've met each other in person because they met through my stream. And I'm like, that's so, that's so wholesome to me that I'm making a community where people feel comfortable enough to make friends with other people and go hang out with them. and I love that so, so very much I also, well I guess something that I did learn

I just thought of this my chat is willing to be part of a cult it's it's not a cult though I swear it's totally not a cult and Rui is not our leader it's not a cult I swear that's what that's what people in a cult say that it's not

but it's not a cult I swear it's not a cult hmm 1,000% a little suspicious on that one. A little sessicious. Listen, as long as you,

as long as you bow down to our Lord and Savior, Rui, who just left the room, as long as you worship him as our Eldon Lord, you're allowed to stay. I can, I can, I can, I can, I can, I can, I can do it all that. He's just amazing.

He, he, he needs to be worshipped. He's, he's, he's a good boy. And I think this is a fun one since you have a lot of your community here. What is one? word you would describe your one word they're listening too so you got pressure like gremlins gremlins is a good one gremlins were cooked yeah i'm telling like what can i say that you know you know i did call my chat NPCs one time i do because sometimes they just say and they do things i'm just like there's no way you guys are real people you guys have to be npcc

I like it I like it But at the same time They're like They're like you think we're not real And I'm like Sometimes you do questionable things Side character

Yeah there could be side characters But sometimes They are doing very NPC behavior Role-Page chatter I think the truth is coming out On this podcast Uh-oh It's not a cult I swear

All right We've got a couple more. This is one of my favorite questions to ask, because it kind of shows a lot about the person. What would your last meal be? Ooh, I'm not going to lie. I love French fries. And you might go, French fries aren't a meal.

I could die very happily eating French fries. Which french fry? Which one? Any of them. Except in and out French fries. In and out French fries are kind of booty cheeks. Well, they're real potato, but yeah, I agree. Yeah, but they're boring potatoes.

They could have made them better. For real, for real. They could make them better, real potatoes. But I love French fries so much. I really, they're like a comfort food to be. I love them. I love them so much. But you can also make them better.

You can like add stuff on top of them. You could, I recently had Asada fries. Oh, I'm still thinking about them. I'm still thinking about them. They're so good. Incredible. Yeah, a little pepper goes a long way in and out. Write that down.

Please. begging. Actually, I have a fun, I have a lot of, like, you know, questions about, like, would you rather, whatever? One of them actually involves French fries. So now I'm actually curious. So you have two choices. You could get $2 for every French fry you eat, like, per day, or you get a dollar for

every push-up or body squat you do a day. I would take the French fries. Dude, I can't do a push-up. Are you kidding me? I would be broke and sad if I was doing the push-ups. be rich and so happy if I was eating French fries all day. How many do you think you can eat like a day? A.K.

You're monthly like, you know, every fry is $2. So how many do you think? You know, if I'm, if I'm making $2 per fry, I think I think I can afford a personal trainer to like counteract all the French fries that I'm eating, I'd probably be racking in at least like five digits a month. Dang. And like easily too. Like I think I could $2 per fry.

$2 per fry. I mean, how many would be in like a small fry? I could crush like two large fries easy. If that's all I'm eating, I might be malnourished, but I'll be happy. Around, it says around 30 to 40 in a small fry. In a small? 30 to 40. So that's what, 60 to 60?

Honestly. That's not that, actually. I'm going to be the next Bezos of the world, if that's the case. I'm going to be so rich. Another one is, would you rather, for every word you write, you make $10? Or every word you speak is $1. Am I like handwriting it or am I typing it? I would say in this scenario, you can do either.

I think I would take the writing. I think because while I do speak a lot and I think you can do it faster I've done my fair share of longer streams where I'm talking the whole time I will lose my voice consistently I've done 24 hour streams 12 hour streams

where I will quite literally lose my voice I did a 24 hour stream while I was playing Expedition 33 the last like four hours of stream I was struggling because my voice was like gone. So I think you could get it done faster, but also I wouldn't be in pain and low-key, I'd probably make more money. I think if I'm writing or typing it, I think I

think I could I think I could do it for sure. And then for the final one, I love this one, is what's one random fact about yourself that your audience does not? I think some of them might know it, but I did competition archery for like three years when I was in school. I'm a world ranked archer three years in a row. World ranked. I went to I went to worlds for archery three times. Yes. I was, I think I was like 11.

Were you using like a regular boat or was it like those cool compound ones? It was a compound bow. Oh, dang. Yeah. Competition archery was at least, it was through a company called NASP. NASP was like National Archery in the Schools program. It was it was compound bows. And I started when I was in fifth grade.

So I was like 10, 11. And I think by the time that I went to World for the first time, I was 11. and I did it, fifth grade, sixth grade, and seventh grade, and I went to Worlds every single year with my team. That's sick. Yeah. It's like may have called you out a little bit. You aim professionally, but in Valorant.

It's different. It's different. Dude, I can't aim at Valoran to save my life. I can't aim at any game to save my life. If I'm playing a game like that, I'm playing support. I played initiator in Valerant because I was like, y'all, tell you guys where they are. You guys go get them.

That's your job, not mine. I'm not playing duelists in that game. Oh, no. You want me to entry? Ooh, no thanks. If I'm playing like Marvel rivals of Overwatch, I'm playing support. Y'all got it. Just know you guys can count on me to stay alive, but as far as kills, that's on you guys.

That you, y'all got it. Y'all got, I'll heal you all. Great. But aiming, aiming not the good part. That's real life aiming? I got it. In game aiming? Absolutely not.

Take me off the roster. absolutely not no all righty so that leads up all the rapid fire questions before we get into the fun stuff and some of your

announcements I'm just going to get through a couple of these real quick so first off as you can see in chat there is Harbour Quest saying that you claim poochie points our NXT Intel Club thank you Intel for helping us basically give you guys a ton of free

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which means more entries into the giveaway. So please, nzzyxc.com slash club or estimation point club and chat. Right there is that link and you guys can win a free PC or stuff. Um, that is it for my announcement. So, uh, first, I want to give you a chance to explain anything that you have going on. I saw, I heard that you're going to convention soon. So, uh, any new excited projects or things that are coming up for you that you want to tell your audience or our audience? Um, I will be competing in my very first cosplay competition tomorrow.

Um, so if you guys want to keep up with updates on that, I will definitely be posting on my socials about it over on Instagram. over on Twitter about how it goes. We're probably going to be taking some awesome pictures and videos of Melania tomorrow because unfortunately I didn't really get to get any good pictures at TwitchCon because the sword was broken, that rest in peace sword. But this time we'll be able to get some really cool pictures with the sword. So I have that going on tomorrow. But I'm live over on my channel on Twitch almost every day, not every single day,

because that's how burnout happens. but almost every day in the evening, PST, just playing a variety of games. Right now I'm playing Assassin's Creed shadows, trying to get to the DLC. There's also drops in the Assassin's Creed category as well. So if you guys want to get some cool drops for the game, that is where you can get them.

I'm also playing through Hollow Night Silk Song as well, so if you guys want to see some generational crashouts, I will be trying to not put a controller-sized hole in my wall, playing that. Trying to. Trying to is the key word. but yeah I will also be at TwitchCon this year

if anybody in chat is attending TwitchCon if you see the Revenant from Elden Ring Night Rain walking around that is me come say hi I also hopefully will be doing a second cosplay at conventions because I like to do two

but I'm not sure what my second one is going to be this year I was hoping to do CL from Expedition 33 but I think that we're getting a little close maybe you'll save that one for another time I don't know if I feel like grinding that one out last minute but maybe I'll also do another one at TwitchCon this year. We'll see. Maybe I'll bring back

Melania at TwitchCon. Maybe. Maybe. We'll see. Oh, go for. Oh. That was kind of it. I guess, do you have any final thoughts or messages before I go ahead and share the code to the peeps? I think that if you guys are wanting to start streaming,

just do it. Be outgole. when it comes to streaming, try to make content that you would like to watch because if it's not something that you would like to watch, maybe somebody else isn't going to want to watch it either. So try to make content that you enjoy, be consistent with it,

and have fun. If you're going to start doing it, don't look at it like a job because then you're going to hate it. Have fun with it. That's the best advice I feel like I can. and I can give. Just, just have fun. And just do it.

Love it. All right, guys. So as we are doing this podcast, we are giving away a Pucci plush, a shirt, and a sticker pack, all NXT stuff because of Olivia joining us today. So first off, please follow her.

I just posted the beacons that she has. So please follow her on all of her socials. Obviously, in the gleam, you'll also be following her. as well but she's got some pretty cool stuff coming up and heads up for tomorrow as well as she posts her competition so there is a secret code word that i think a couple people are here are waiting for for a thousand extra entries into the giveaway pretty much most of the time when i get when i pull the winners majority of time those that put in the code word win it it's my way of holding all these people

hostage so that they stay here uh olivia do you have a code word you like that do for the giveaway. It could be anything in the world. I think it would be very fitting if we made the code word Rui. RUI, the name of our Eldon Lord. There you go. Totally not our cult leader.

All right. It's not a cult. It's not a cult. It's not a cult. I'm honestly, I'm kind of down to join. It's not a cult, I swear. I swear. All right, guys, I'm updating the code right now.

So please refresh your gleams. It will not work unless you refresh it. The code word is Rui in the chat, as you can see right there. But it's not a cold. It's not a cult. So it's fine. You guys should join. It's not a cult, I swear.

You know what? I'll be interested in joining, too. I think he'll be a good, a very kind. He's a good leader. Yeah. There you go. All right, everyone. Thank you guys for joining us.

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