NZXT PODCAST - #211 - FREE PC GIVEAWAY? - TwitchCon, the PC Industry, and More (Ft. Jerome and Derek from PNY)

Episode Date: October 10, 2025

On this week's episode of the #NZXT Podcast... Jerome and Derek join us to talk about their journey working at PNY, their TwitchCon PC giveaway, and more! We answer all your burning questions such as: Where is the PC industry going in the next 5-10 years? Taylor Ham or Pork Roll? Is a hot dog a sandwich? Learn the answers to all of these here on the #NZXT Podcast!

So fun to think. There you go. Hello, everyone. Welcome to episode 211 of the N60 podcast, the official podcast of the N60 community. This podcast recorded live on Fridays at 10 a. m. Pacific Center time on the official N60 Twitch. It is available to stream on demand on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and SoundCloud. My name is Mike.

It with me, as always, is Ivan. How are you doing, Ivan? How we do, baby boo? Episode 21, almost catching up to my IQ points. Can you believe it? That's crazy. Yeah, we were in for a special. treat today. We have two very special guests from P&Y. We are announcing a spectacular free PC

giveaway. So if you are tuned in live right now on twitch.tv slash nzxte type exclamation giveaway in the chat. You will get a link that takes you to the giveaway entry page. There's a bunch of different ways to enter. And there's a very special way to enter if you go to TwitchCon and we'll let you know all about that later on in the show. So without further ado, let me introduce our two special guests today. They are DREC and Jerome from P&Y. How you guys doing? Great. Good, doing good. Thanks for having us. Yeah, definitely. How are you doing? We're doing good, man. We were talking a little earlier on the before we went live about how Derek just flew back from from Jersey and talking about how how he's sick and all that but I think we're all we're all doing all right um we'll make it yes so

before we get into it why don't you each just introduce yourselves and let everyone know what you do at p and why we'll start with we'll start with with Derek since he's he's the one who's sick all right yeah Hello everyone. I mean, first and foremost, I go way back with NZXT before I was even at P&Y. Yeah, I'm Derek Ellis. Right now I'm the senior manager of product and content marketing here at P&Y. I've been here this January will be nine years. So do everything content wise from video production.

We do social media, web pages, events, just like TwitchCon coming up. So pretty much do a little bit of everything. you see content wise that's that's driven through our team we do we do all the video uh all of that good stuff product photography all the creativity and uh you know work alongside here with jerome as well yeah exactly yeah my name is jerome and i'm the content marketing manager at p and y um kind of reiterating exactly what derrick said um we have our hands and everything when it comes to kind of the content that comes throughout uh p and y so everything from you know planning and working with events to social media, to different videos, scripts, partner activations,

ads, everything. We touch many different, anything where you see content, that's kind of where we fall. I have a special place in my hearts for companies that have letters as their name, you know, because NZC. So I'm not asking what the heck is PNY? What is P and Y for those who don't know? Actually, let's flip the question. What do you think it stands for?

Do you know? Drum roll. It stands for pretty neat. What's a Y word? Close. P&Y, Paris, New York, been here. CEO opened it, started it in 1985, started off as a flash, you know,

company and now kind of where we're at you know we're actually celebrating 40 years of business this year not only from flash but memory SSD you know g-force consumer cards we also have like our professional division so it's a whole another animal within p and y so we uh we do we do a lot we have a lot of solutions and uh yeah been a good partner you know both on the g force and the video side for the past you know near 25 years or more Yeah. So I think before we get into you guys working at PNY, we kind of want to learn a little bit about you guys.

So Derek, we'll have you first start in at Jerome. What did you both start first getting into like gaming and tech in general? Man, as a kid, I go way back, Nintendo, always a classic Nintendo, Mario,

Duck Hunt, all that good stuff. Then, you know, going into the, do the consoles, you know, Xbox and,

And remember I stayed out with my brother a lot to get Xbox 360, the good old Halo days. I think everyone knows Halo. Everyone grind Halo. The Halo lobbies were the best. And yeah, it just around, what, 2015, started doing PCs and stuff and entered the PC Master Race. That's kind of what started this whole journey where I'm at. And, you know, that pulled me along the path of Ivan NXT and, you know, a bunch of other people within the community so yeah like I said I've been in gamers since a kid but uh you know

as I got older just more that battlefield call of duty um all that good stuff all that good stuff yeah now I love that and it kind of I'm similar to Derek not in the exact same way of course um but for me like I've been into gaming all my life like being a kid and again Derek said the Nintendo super Nintendo was like my my console And then even going into the n64, that was like it for me. But I mean, I was really young. But that was the kind of my start into gaming. And then from there, of course, you grew with, you know, starting with consoles.

And I feel like that was like the easiest way for people to get into gaming because consoles you can just buy it, play the games and kind of forget about it. You don't really have to worry about upgrading too much, et cetera. But again, as time went on and, you know, you want to play more graphically intensive. games or just want to be able to play with your friends, especially when cross-platform wasn't as much a thing. That definitely kind of pushed me into that PC hardware side of things where, you know, build my first PC and, you know, I spoke to Derek about it, built it kind of before I got this job. And from there, I started to understand, okay, these are the parts. This is what a GPU actually does. This is what SSD does. Why memory is important. All these different things.

Um, and then from there, you know, of course, got a job with P&Y and then took off with Derek and hit the ground running. I think actually both of you, uh, mentioned that you guys remember the specs of your first build? Because I love whenever it's like, oh, I had a GTX 760. People were like, it goes that low? Like, do you guys? And you know what? I think you just hit it right there. I believe my first one was a GT.

Oh, 770, I believe. Was there a 700 series? And what's crazy is I just remember walking into a store building my first PC. My buddy was helping me. And you know, there actually was a P&Y card. I bought a P&Y car. That's kind of what started this whole thing too. It just got the GPU, of course, built everything up and then started doing some modifications

to them and all that good stuff. But yeah, I think I honestly don't remember the CPU at that time. That's so long ago. But I know the GPU was in the GT 700 series. It's pretty wild. Do you still have it? You still have it? I don't. I wish I had it. I wish I had it. Another thing because we we did a lot of community stuff. So once I started like getting established and PC builds and kind of upgrading my hardware, then I was always like,

I was just gift them back out to like the community and stuff like that to like help other gamers out that maybe couldn't, you know, get the latest GPU or at least give them an upgrade from integrate of graphics or just something. So that's like kind of like that way of giving back. I was doing more and more builds. What about you, Trilom was your first GPU? My first GPU. I was kind of late into the game.

I can't lie. But it was a 2060 super, a 2060 super. And funny enough, I still have it, still rocking it. You know, depending on the day and still have it. And Derek still kind of trolls me. because I did have I still Don't put this on life

Don't do it Because I need to upgrade I need to upgrade it I'm working on upgrading my PC That's my that's my thing It's been my new year's resolution For a little while But I'm still working on it

But yeah 2060 Super was mine How about you guys? Oh I don't even remember Whatever Was in my What was it?

I think it was like a 700 series, to be honest. I don't remember the exact model, though. Yeah, but I'm an old man in gamer years. Mine was a power spec PC that I got from. Oh, God, what's fries? Whenever everyone fries was still around? Oh, fries. Yeah.

Oh, my God. It was like my favorite store. I would go there every weekend and I'd be like, dad, I wanted a PC. My dad's like, no. And it took me like months and months before you convinced me bought get one and it was a god it was a gt x

760 or something like that 700 series as well and uh at i 3 and i'm like oh that thing barely that I would click the button and I literally use it as a snack time so I'll walk downstairs I'll grab my snacks and water ball come back up and it would still be loading

good times I feel that we was crazy during that time though like that that was that was like awesome like i3 or i5 i7 like you're like maybe you have i7 CPU whatever and you're yeah i got i 7 uh-huh yeah i was like and here we are just like all these new generations just all the new features and how just like from when i first started to where right now is just it's incredible kids will never know the struggle i know i've been so how long have you guys been working at P&Y and how did you end up working there in the first place? Derek, we'll start with you.

This can go along. I'll keep it short. So that was in the intro, this January I'll be here for nine years. Pretty much what started here was, you know, I remember I was watching NXT live stream. Ivan was on there and I'm just like, I love this actually built my first PC and I'm like, man, I would love to do something like that. And to this day, I still remember I was saying, well, if you really want it, you'll work hard enough to get it. And like, those words stuck with me.

And then that's where I just started building these PCs, posting on social. P&Y ended up being like my first sponsor. They sent me at that time 980 TIs and some memory and SSDs to put into a build. And then that got connected with Ivan and got some cases the was the H440 and a noctus and all those good cases back in the day to some throwbacks. Then yeah, I did a build for P&Y for Pax East, modified it. There's some cool mods to it. That's before like a lot of these cases now have the inverted GPU. I had to like cut the back and modify it to have the GPU facing out. And then, you know, the rest was history after that. There's a opening at P&Y for, you know,

marketing. And I'm like, wow, this is a perfect fit. And then just, you know, everything just everything just pretty much connected at the right time and yeah like I said been here for nine years now and again just pretty pretty cool story and just uh kind of cool to be on the podcast with you know both of you but even just n-s-tacety as itself why why do i have no recollection of you Derek i don't know i mean i don't know who you are i just i just asked in chatbotting her and i'm i said to say that so no it's funny because um oh it's funny because i think I think Derek was actually the very first, like, content creator slash, I don't know what you want to call them. Like, just.

I don't know what it was called. I think he was like. There was nothing, though. That was like the buzzword back in the day. Yeah. You were like the first cool PC I ever saw on social media when I first started working at NZXT where I'm like, dang, like this, this guy built a really cool PC. I got to, I got to reach out to them and, and introduce myself. to him and it was um i think it was it was an h440 with two gpues inside of it and you took these awesome

you took these awesome pictures of it and we i messaged you was like hey can can we post on your blog like what else do you need et cetera and um yeah it's been cool man seeing seeing you uh blossom into the d rec we we know today at yeah that was um yeah no thank you like i said actually it really it's stem from you man like if i wasn't watched that live stream and it was just like you guys were just kind of like this, just open conversation, talk about gaming and just at the day, it's like it's a job like connecting with the community and that's one thing, like a lot of companies at that time

they're like, oh, you know, I had this cool idea, would you maybe sponsor some parts or help out? And there's like, who are you? But then just like you said, we kind of just got connected through at that time, Instagram. You know at that point too, I remember someone was holding NXT hostage

the game tag and we helped, we use the community to get that for you guys. It was, that was a funny day. That was, um, yes, the community. Yeah, that was all you too. Cause, um, so that was, I remember when I first already working here, one of the first things I did was started the Instagram account. And like you said, someone was holding at NZXT username hostage. So our original username was like NZXT underscore or NZXT Inc. or no, no, it was NZXT corp.

And then, um, I didn't even, I didn't even tell you to do this. You did this on your own. you message me and you said, hey, man, I'm going to get you that at NZXT. You started this whole movement on Instagram. And sure enough, you know, Instagram ended up giving us our username. And here we are 10 years later with a million Instagram followers now. Yeah, that's a while. Yeah. Thank you for that.

How about you, Jerome? How long have you been at P&Y and how did you end up there? Yeah, yeah. So I've been with a company for about four years. years. I've always had a background in just being creative. I just try and do different things, either outside of gaming and PC culture, whether it's like just playing music or being in that kind of environment, just being creative in general. And I used to work at a recording studio before, but I've always been into, again, gaming, PC culture. And after starting to understand

the parts to kind of build my own PC, so that way I can. could kind of play with some friends. I was looking, just looking around for different positions. And I knew a no P and Y from, you know, from graphics cards, SD as well as memory. And it was something that always kind of stuck out to me. So, you know, I applied. And it was funny because Derek was, uh, Derek was my first boss on the, when I was back on like, kind of like the consumer side, I focused mainly on G-Force at the time.

And he kind of brought me on. And he kind of gave me a lot more insight into the tech industry. Again, even in a sense, kind of giving Derek his flowers too, because I didn't know all these different things of like, hey, I was kind of one of the first people to kind of start helping out when it came to like showing off like liquid cooled in these different builds or, you know, making customized like GPUs and customized builds and all that stuff. That was something that it kind of broadened my eyes and broadened my horizons in different ways too. But yeah, and then again, being creative and being with an entire team for about four years, that definitely helped me kind of like blossom and understand a lot more about the industry, especially on a technical level, because I'm not going to lie. I'm not the most technical person.

I am creative, but one of the tech specs come, that's something that, like, I still have to kind of learn. And I've learned over the past in the, you know, in the past. So, yeah, that was kind of my journey and kind of to where I'm at right now. And now you're looking like a professional streamer. I know. Yeah, I know. And it's crazy to kind of piggyback on that because I remember Jerome for started and it's great too because like again, just how like coming on the team and just

be able to share that like that experience and just I just remember the first time. And Jerome and I always joke about this, but we're like doing some product shots and stuff. And no, we had some work to do with with the camera. But like, as you can see, like, his setups clean and just like, but I was the same way. Like I remember, I, I mean, you can speak for it too. Like, I, my first couple of photos I used to do my build. It looked like I was taking it with the potato. Like, everybody has to start somewhere.

And honestly, this whole journey is what pushed me to like learn photography and learn, um, just videography and all that good stuff. And yeah, like, Jerome has like surpassed everything. I mean, it's like, yeah. Jerome, Jerome, Jerome, man. Jerome makes Derek look like he's being held hostage or something in a basement. Yeah. Where you could hear the jail? I should change my flight so I was just in the room so I'd look as cool as him with all the

GPUs behind him. Yeah, it's not next to me now but I was where they were at when I was there, you know, I was like, we got to do some product photography. They're all gone and now now they are behind them. They're weird. They're at. That's funny. So what does a what does an average day look like for the both with you at P&Y. I'll let you start.

I don't go first. No, yeah, sure. You go first, real. Yeah. No problem. Yeah, I mean, an average day, I think actually one of the cool things that I do enjoy about P&Y is that, at least specifically in my role, is that not one day looks the same. It doesn't, I don't really feel like I have an average day because everything changes depending

on, you know, what's going on at the time. The, it kind of like, is like a roller. co-coaster in certain ways and we're like hey we're planning for this event um you know we're we're prepping assets we're prepping um campaigns or camp we're prepping influencer activities and that may be like the mode for like either a couple months or you know a couple weeks and then it's focused fully on like content creation where it's like okay uh the goal is to get these three products in to shoot them to get B-roll um and to produce content um again it can be looking like you know working with our teams to plan out different scripts ideate every day kind of feels a little bit different which I like

so that way it doesn't really feel stagnant but again to you know to kind of answer your question it ranges but again it can vary from like planning different events again working with our team to incorporate different social posts on you know social media um shooting photography um you know planning out ads or different campaigns and funds allocated with that um and yeah many different things far and in between that but uh yeah it's fun yeah just piggyback on that it it's the same like out of the nine years i can't really say like pinpoint like these two days have been identical there's there's so many products and so many categories and so many different things going on so it's not like i know on monday tuesday wednesday thursday these are my things to do because

what you think we're doing on a Monday, those are not prioritized or going back like, hey, this events coming up. We need, you know, banners, landing pages, we need to work with partners. And, you know, what can we do to attract more people to the booth at these events? And yeah, and then just again, same thing. Product photography. So, you know, before product launches, which is like a cool part of things, you have like your embargoes with, with products, kind of we get stuff early, get to get, you know, some images and some B-roll. So that would way we can strategize a plan for launches, which is, I think it's like one of the cool things too, just kind of like geek out, like you kind of have that heads up of what's in the pipeline.

Yeah. And you got to, you get to kind of pre-think launch plans and all that good stuff. But yeah, I just, every day is different. It's just, it's very content heavy. You know, what can we do to always trying to one up our content, really? Just, you know, what outside of a product image? Like, what else can we do outside the box to take it to the next level? Yeah.

I guess that also kind of leads into my next questions is like, what is your favorite thing about working at P&Y? And like, what was also your favorite project you have worked on? Good question. And why is it being on this podcast? Yeah. Number one. Already answered it. Do you want to go first, Derek?

No. You want me to. Either way. It's up to you. Um, so the my favorite project that I've worked on, I think it, it was a, it was an old, it was an old video. Um, and Derek's going to laugh. I mean, when I say this. So it was one time when we were planning to do a launch, specifically this doesn't necessarily have to do with like G-Force or graphics cards, but it was just a creative project that we were doing. And we were focusing it around like a launch of a USB or something. And we decide to do this random idea of like, oh, let's make it look like, you know, the price can be coming out of a box and it's going to have this glowing structure to it and all this stuff.

But although we thought it out, it was very well thought out and planned. It was just pure creativity and where we were just kind of freestyling as we went along. We had some people like walking back and forth, closing doors, opening doors. We were just shooting in the room. and we were just again just a freestyling the script as we went along with it and we did like cool stupid creative shots and where we had like a glowing box and we put like a small little like nan light in there and we were like shaking it with our hands and like just being creative and just enjoying that entire experience and from top to bottom and shooting to editing to planning to pitching and all of that stuff so I feel like that's a cool highlight in where it's not anything like super grandiose in terms of like you know all these RGB lights and all that it was just kind of hey let's just cool come with a cool idea execute it well and you know go from there yeah for me i think uh like all the modding stuff that used to do in the beginning on the gaming side was always cool to

like we do themed builds and all that and showcase that to the community but like recently like think probably call it maybe the past two two and a half three years now we just have this graphics room in our building and now that like a majority of those people are remote we were able to like hey what can we use this room for and like hey let's make this a giant green screen because kind of going back to the whole content and creativity it's one thing to always take a photo of a GPU and a build or a build photo with just a backdrop and there's nothing wrong with that, but we did a whole green screen room. So then now that way, we're like, all right, we have green screen. How do we take the end? We're always looking to take the content

the next level. And then we're like, you know, Unreal Engine, how do we experiment with that? How does, you know, G4's GPUs take advantage of all of this? And that pretty much started our whole, you know, P&Y virtual studio sets that we create content in. So that way it's, we can be in any scene we can do whatever we want and it's uh it's uh it's on the inside us recording it's like boring because it's on a green screen and all of this but then when we start putting stuff in unreal engine and changing the graphics and all this stuff you see the creativity from the team come to life and then you know put that out on social media and stuff is uh it's awesome i must say like me personally that's the coolest thing i've seen you two do um when i've seen that on

social, I always think, like, man, like, how the heck are they doing that? It looks freaking awesome. Delete this. They can't know. Delete this. No, no one. Click. How did, how did you guys even come up with that idea in the first place?

So, like, our upper management, you know, they're, they're, they're just saying in way. They're like, they want to push the bar. Like, again, not saying that product photography, like, it has its place. depending on what you're trying to push out to your community. But, you know, anyone can get a GPU, put it on a table, and put like a backdrop or anything like that. So, you know, you see sports, you know, sports center, ESPN, and, like, you see how, like, just using football as an example,

but, like, graphics going across your screen and all of that. It's like it's interactive and it's very engaging. It's not just flat in a photo or a B-roll of a GPU. you. So again, we have two, three great members on our team above me and Jerome that help with all production and social and everything. And yeah, just collectively get together as a team like, all right, if we get a green screen, like what hardware, what lighting, what do we need, what software, like what do we need to do? And then we pretty much just roll that up to management. Hey, you want to take the, you know, the content to the next level. We need this and they're like,

okay let's make it happen and uh here we are so it's yeah we can put gpues in any any environment and kind of like the whole theme for us with you know rgb on the gpues is like this kind of going to call it cyberpunk rgb bright colors in the studio um we do our stand-ups for like intros and outros of videos in there um so yeah it's just it's it's a whole another avenue of creativity and uh yeah it's just like record on a green screen and put yourself in the virtual environment, call it what it is. You can be anything you want. I keep pressing the team to make us like this whole Avengers scene.

Like, I want to be ironed in. It hasn't happened yet because we haven't had time. But, you know, one day, one day, we'll have extra time to work on that project. And to make sure you clear that by legal so you don't get sued by Disney. I know. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. That part, too.

Yeah. And so is the Derek's point. I think that one thing that I kind of like about this position specifically, again, is that like we're allowed to be creative in like a holistic point and where it's like we're doing again like the the small standups where it's just you know set on a phone or camera and just talk about something we're doing the product photography again we're doing the 3d modeling on our team we're doing those bigger projects kind of like in that virtual studio kind of like Derek was talking to so we're able to do so many different things and be pretty well rounded how how do you think think that virtual set has helped your content strategy i think it really helped to expand what we can do i think that there's so many different avenues now that we have the virtual studio that we can just take and expand on because of the fact that again we can be in different different portions of the virtual events the virtual studio in um so say for example

It's built out in like a, it basically looks like an entire building in a way and where you can like go up the stairs. You can be shot in front of a table. You can be shot in like a like a like kind of like a lounge room in front of a TV. There's different scenes within that entire virtual studio. So we can be placed in all those different ways and truly be able to think of cool concepts into where, say, for example, if we wanted to do a longer form video and have Derek talking about. why RGB is such a great highlight on our GPU and he's downstairs and then the camera pans over to me and I'm, I don't know, sitting in like a, uh, uh, you know, in the top. A room full of GPUs behind you, you know, talking about something else. Like, it allows us that flexibility and creativity. Um, but Derek, do you want to also add to that? Yeah, I think just adding to it like my, I think the thought process behind it too was like brand identity. Um, I don't know if a lot of people were, I'm not seeing where the first ones to ever do it.

Like, you know, it's that's been done in that. But I think from maybe like a call it consumer gaming channel, it's something a little different. And that way, you know, if someone sees it on YouTube or X or Instagram, whatever, they see and they're like, oh, that's, that's P and Y. That's that's their, you know, call it niche or a thing within, you know, virtual sets and stuff. So we tend to mix it up to where it's in virtual sets, not virtual sets. So in that way, it's just not, all the content's not the same every single video and just kind of keep things fresh. I actually got a, I know there's some people that want to be able to work in

the gaming and tech industry and do stuff like what you guys do. So do you guys have any advice for people that want to get into like your line of work? Like is there something that they should, you know, acquire? Is there some skills they should try work? being on because I know there's a lot of people out there that would love to be where you guys are right now. Yeah, I think from from a marketing, um, I goes back again, like Ivan's point, it's like, first up, if you want something so bad, you're going to work hard, you're going to figure out what you got to do, especially nowadays. There's so much free content out there on YouTube to

help you, you know, learn new skills in that. Honestly, that's how I did. Like I didn't go to school for photography or videography. I just started building PCs. I'm like, how do I make my images look better and stand out? But from marketing, I just think, you know, knowing social platforms and the voices that are on there, honing in skills for photography and content creation, if that's the route you want to go. And I think it is just find it really at the end of the day, just like find what makes you happy and just go all in on that. Like they always say, like you it won't feel like work if you're like really enjoy or however you know it's like it won't feel like a job like you're just it's it's your thing and that's what you want to do so

um i hope that helps a little bit i think i that's what i say like for me my thing was i loved pc builds i did live streaming at one point um i i liked gaming so i just i started kind of just piecing everything together and one day i just made an instagram account started posting and tagging companies and for enough this country's like oh this is pretty cool kind of like i just say it's like hey this you can build some cool stuff maybe there's potential to do a collaboration at that time back in a day that was like nothing or like wait you want free parts yeah no not happening not seeing the n16t but like in general that was like a new thing like now it's it's it's i guess it's you know it's it's mainstream it you know like everyone i'm sure

who's watching and listening um they have like a feel like a favorite favorite call it influencer or tech channel they go to to watch to learn and educate themselves. Yeah. And also to add on to that, I think that there's definitely a couple different aspects that I feel like are also important to kind of, I guess, bring up because I think that if you want to kind of get to these positions or I guess any position, I feel like a lot of it is about like being consistent. That's a huge thing because even say, for example, if you want to do your own thing, just that consistency of like, hey, I'm starting, but continuing going on with it is truly important because if you're starting and then stopping, you're not really going to continue to see that growth. So definitely just try and be as consistent as possible.

And then I feel like the general one is just being willing to learn because even in my position, like, I did not come in the gate knowing photography. I mean, Derek and I joked about when I was taking pictures and I had the shaky hands. hands, like, they were looking super blurry. Like, and I learned. Yeah, I know. I was shooting into the light. Like, what am I doing? It's crazy.

Yeah, and it is one of those things where it's just like, okay, I don't know it, but I'm going to take some time out to learn it. And again, that can apply to any situation, whether it's photography, being creative, learning about just specs and hardware or about your specific niche. Because again, this doesn't necessarily have to tie into just P&Y or NST or tech, it's kind of like a lifelong rule of just like being willing to learn. That's good advice. Mike, I hope you took notes.

I'm going to quiz you on that later after the show. I believe you got this. All right. So let's talk about why you guys are here in the first place. And that's to talk about TwitchCon because we we both NST and P&Y teamed up for TwitchCon. So if you're at TwitchCon next weekend, head on over to booth number 2,800, and you can check out what we got going on. So why don't you tell the folks what is going on at TwitchCon? Yeah, so, you know what's wrong?

You got. Sure. Cool. Yeah. So, yeah, again, as Ivan said, we're going to be at booth 2,800. We have a lot of cool things happening at TwitchCon this year. So first and foremost, again, we're super-com. glad to be able to work with NZXT and incorporate them into what we're doing at the booth.

So we're going to be doing a PC giveaway. So that's going to be a huge thing in where incorporating NZXT parts as well as what we have in terms of GPUs, SSD, and DRAM. And we're going to be also doing a live build. So that's going to be tying in with Robitech. So he's going to be at our booth. He was actually at our Hax East booth as well. well so we had a great activation with him so again we're kind of like running it back in a fun way where he's going to be doing a live build there so definitely stop by check it out and then we're also going to be

showing off a couple different demos so we're going to be showing off um a gameplay of boorlands four as well as hell as us both featuring you know invidia inviia back titles so they're going to have a lot of uh inviata technology behind it as well as we're going to be doing like a uh a really cool thing that I'm really excited about is like it's something that I didn't know about until you know a couple of months ago when we were starting to plan is that there's like an AI streamer assistant with through stream labs so that's going to be kind of a really cool a really cool activation where people can sit down play fortnight and while they're playing they can interact with a streamer assistant so you know if you're the type of person to sometimes like

be quiet as you're streaming it'll like jump in and give you something to kind of talk off of and it'll kind of keep that engaging conversation going um you'll you know if you're playing fortnight you can be like hey where should i land and it'll tell you based off of you know maybe some of the previous games that you were playing you know what's a good spot what's not a good spot and you can incorporate and talk to it as if it's kind of that uh the AI assistant so i feel like that's a really cool thing that we're going to be doing as well um so yeah definitely stop by and check it out. I would have it.

I would have AI build for me while playing Fortnite. That's the only reason I can't play that game. Yeah, exactly. Can't do the build. When they actually did the no build, that's like, all right, I'll try this game out.

Because like, you know, yeah, coming off the other FPS shooters, it's like, I can't build. I'll get schooled by the kids in the lobby. So you guys are both heading to TwitchCon. Do you have any guilty pleasures when you travel? for an event like this.

Derek, you want to take this one? Mr. Donut, man. There you go, man. It is going to. I've been doing good. Y'all pressure me in the office the other day. I think that's the first thing we do, too, is like whenever we're going to an event,

like us and the team will get together. Just kind of like, you know, what are some good spots to go try out for food? And I love coffee. So I always try to find like a good coffee shop to try out in the area. So it's something new because not every time it's like traveling out. This is going to be in San Diego, which it's beautiful there. I think the last year, last one was there was, oh, it was that 2020.

Because I think the first, you know, it's crazy the thing about this. The first one I ever went to was 2017, 2018. And that's when we teamed up with NXT as well. We did like seven builds in the booth and everything to come up in game. but yeah, I think definitely just coffee and food. Yeah. Got to explore after hours. I do recommend the burritos in San Diego.

There's like a bunch of good spots on there. It's a big controversy thing because I live here in L.A. and there's this big rivalry between L.A. and San Diego in terms of who has the best Mexican food? I think L.A. has the best street tacos. Oh, you just heard of bad. I always hear about that. San Diego for sure has the best burritos for some reasons. I don't know what they put in there.

So find a burrito. You can't go wrong. Take your work for it. Besides the burritos, is there anything that you're looking forward to at TwitchCon this year? Any streamers you want to meet? Any workshops you want to attend or anything like that? I'm more so interested in, I feel like the artist Ali was really cool. So I went to TwitchCon

Was it last year? It's like these are just blurring together. Yeah, it was last year. And we had a G's 2 cents at our booth really cool activation. But yeah, at TwitchCon last year, you know, just getting a chance to walk around and see what was going on.

It's really cool to see, again, being a creative person, see what people come up with, the cool art and design that they do, as well as just to see other partners and, Just see what like the tech landscape is looking like in what it specifically comes to the streamers because again that's a streamer focused event So it's really cool being able to talk and you know see some of maybe your favorite streamers or favorite Influencers there as well

Nice how about you Derek? I'm just there for the swag. You know just get swag I just like that is yeah that thing everyone's there for the swag I'm sorry I'm sorry no I'm sorry I actually know my monitor just actually shut off this right now that's why I paused for seconds

I thought I lost power that scared me we're still here oh man that scared me and I'm not there we always see it some little technical issues we always do

I like these power surges and just but yeah I think it's just really connecting with the community because it's one thing like actually I was posting and people commenting engaging with us but like to actually have people from the community go to your booth and like oh

you're actually Jerome you're a Derek and you're the team like face-to-face you're real people and have like real conversations with the community is always a plus in my my eyes yeah I mean I kind of talked a little bit about that as like you know streaming is such a you know we can we're streaming to hundreds people right now and you know we have thousands of people that listen and view it afterwards, but like, what is, like, the main thing about, like, these in-person events that's, like, special to you? Yeah. I think that, again, being able to have that face-to-face in where, say, for example, in the

past, we used to do a live stream, even on our own side, it was, I think it was, like, accelerate Fridays or something like that. We used to do it, like, every Friday. And we used to be able to interact with people. And it was really cool because again, you're building up that community. You're talking to the frequent listeners and checking with them and, you know, asking about, hey, what are you going to eat this weekend? What are you doing this?

And you're like, you're knowing them. You're getting a chance to know them. But doing it in person is on a different scale and where you're seeing and feeding off energy. And it's really important to be able to have someone, you know, come to the booth and you're welcoming them in. and you're showing them the different products. You're having casual conversations, still having conversation about, hey,

what are you guys going to eat? Any good places to eat spots? You know, it's really that, that genuine connection that I feel like you, you miss out sometimes when you're just like live streaming

or just, you know, focus on the online aspect of it. Yeah, I think the same thing, too. Just, yeah, just having that community engagement, but also too,

like I, I've been here for nine years. I remember my first, event was 2017 Pax East and at that time we just launched the 1080 TI and it's kind of like going back thinking of that GPU and that experience and people like oh my gosh this is so amazing but then now like we're up in the 50 we're 50 series now and like again connecting with them but then kind of connecting the that's like old hardware versus new hardware how AI is in these GPUs now and in enhancing our overall gaming experience and you know 4k maxed out and all of these new you know features that just enhanced the gameplay to kind of see them like wait i'm getting 200 plus fps fully maxed down all this stuff it's like it's just it's fun to see them like actually react live and then also like you know capture that for content and all that good stuff do you guys have any um funny or like

heartwarming stories uh at any of these conventions or anything like that or these in-person events Hmm. Funny. I mean, I do have a story. It's actually the Pax East. So Jerome and I had a bet of who like so I guess that's what people don't see neither. I don't know what I'm going to go with this, but past East, it's like all the attendees only get to see the glamour. Like it's all set up go and do your thing. We're there. It's a complete it's chaos setting up. And then we're you know, taking things down and packing it ready to go. And we're we're waiting for. whatever crates to come out. I'm like, you know what, Jerome? I can beat you in a race. And we had bets going, like just jogging around different people from different boots and company. Yeah. I got Jerome and suddenly, you know, I got Derek because you know, Jerome, Jerome is much younger than me, but hey, you know, I'm older, but I still got, I got some, some, uh, speed in me and uh, I'll give it to Jerome. He beat me, he beat me by a foot.

By the foot is crazy. But the funny thing is, though, I'm, uh, I told like after I was running. I'm like, I mean, I feel like I pulled something, but I really had paid attention to it. And then I get home. And then my wife's like, what's wrong with your leg? I'm like, what do you mean? And I'm like pulling my hand, you're like, it's massive bruise. Just from racing, uh, Jerome. I guess it's like one of those things called behind the scenes. But, uh, yeah. Yeah. I mean, I'm not going to lie, though, barely. I'm not going to lie by saying barely and by a foot is very generous. Um, we have, it was a good distance. the replay i'm telling you we'll get the replay at twitchcon so um if you guys want to just you'll pull up to the booth we'll have races there um but uh yeah kind of to derrick's point i feel like it's this cool random things and where you're just i don't know talking with influencers sometimes or not influencers sorry um just the community members and they're pulling up to the booth and they're telling you about you know their first game on their PC and you know you're saying they're having a conversation with them and and you know you're saying they're having a conversation with them and and you're

And you're like locked in with them and, you know, they keep going and you keep going and you just like build a short moment of like that connection. I feel like that's really cool. And even like, as you said, like the heartwarming moments. I think it was at Pax East last year as well. Right. No, I think it was this year. It was funny. We were giving out like yo-yo's.

We were doing all these like different yo-yo tricks. And we were just like, you know, messing around with the community. saying, oh, hey, can you do a cool yo-yo trick? We'll record you and all this stuff. And we're able to, you know, create this cool interaction and post it on social media and create these connections. And I remember this one little girl, she's probably like, I don't know, three years old, super small.

And one of our team members, Bianca, she's like, oh, hey, can you do a yo-yo? You do a yo-yo trick? And she's like, oh, yeah. And she, like, dropped it on the ground. I just sat there and just like dragging it around. But it was like a cute like heartwarming moment because then you give them a little hug. And hey, thank you for stopping by the booth. And it's just like these cool moments in where you're really engaging with the community.

And again, this is built in like a tech sphere. We're all, you know, focused on, hey, this is Pax East. It's focused on gaming, all this stuff. But at the same time we're, you know, all human. So I think they're like touching on that. same, that note is really cool. Love that story. I love a good yo-yo story.

Yeah. You know it's crazy. I haven't had a yo since I was like back in middle school and just like we did it. And I'm telling you, it's like everyone. That's crazy. Yeah. It brought back my childhood memories just doing all the tricks. And we started having little competitions in the booth with the community is funny.

That's the thing. I think if Derek, even though Derek didn't beat me in the race, one thing he is definitely good at is yo-yoing. He was doing like the cat's cradle And he was doing all around the world And all these tricks I was so GPUs out But

I don't know if you all are going to have yo-yo's at Twitchcon But I do know you will have a secret word For people trying to win this PC, right? So if you're at TwitchCon Head on over to booth number 2800 You can tap Jerome's shoulder Or whisper in Derek's ear One or the other

It looks at both methods and you can just tell them, ask them like, hey, what's the secret word? They'll give you the secret word. And you can plug that into the Glean form and you get five. I mean, it's 1,000 or 500 bonus entries. I think it's 500 bonus entries into the giveaway. And then you guys will increase your chances at winning. But Mike, let's pull up the page so people can take a look at the PC builds.

We got going on at the booth and what makes them so special. All right, let's see I haven't played This hell game is it is it good Yes I'm you've played it I have not played by I've been watching a lot of videos on it and it's I'm I'm tempted to buy it

Really I've seen like some small clips but Again at Twitchcon will kind of be the first time Getting a chance to play it but I heard really good things about it so far It looks cool I just haven't played it Yeah But anyway, here's a breakdown of the specs of the builds that are going to be there when Derek and Jerome hit me up a few months ago and they're like, hey, man, can we have some computer parts? I thought, you know what?

Let's send them our latest and greatest. So they're going to have not only their latest and greatest parts, but they're going to have our latest and greatest parts. And you guys can check these out in person. They're all, all the builds are going to be in our brand new H9 Flow, RGB Plus cases. These are the ones that have the new single frame fans with RGB lighting and all that. So they look really nice. They both have the new NZXX-N7Z890 motherboards.

You're going to see some G4s RtX 5080s and 5090 GPUs, some fancy P&Y RGB RAM as well in there. So these builds are going to be nice. Mike, if you scroll down a tad, You can actually see what the giveaway PC looks like there. There it goes. When I first saw this PC, I was like, man, I want this on my own desk there. But I'm excited to that Robitech is going to build the PC as well.

Robitech is probably, and I'm not just saying this because he's there. He's probably my favorite tech tover, to be honest. And I love his content. I think his builds come out amazing. He's also a really Yeah, he is a really cool dude And very down to earth Mike actually

He dressed up as Santa Claus And walked around Seattle with Robitech last year Yeah You've been away free stuff Yeah Cool dude Great guy Not great it is

It's like just lay back Chill goes through specs Interacts Tells really good dad jokes So Yeah Very personable too I remember we were having a conversation about like random food one time in a restaurant at

Twitch, uh, packs east and he was like jumping in on a on a debate for like, it's a New Jersey debate whether it's like Taylor ham or pork roll because like North Jersey. Yes, Taylor ham. Yeah. This is how he says.

They were not for 40 minutes at the table. It was going back and forth. Um, it was crazy. But even though it is Taylor ham just so everyone knows. Um, but, uh,

yeah, he was like joining in on that conversation. So very cool kind dude. Mike, Mike knows all about that because he went to Syracuse. Oh, God. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Okay.

We had literally, it was so funny in our freshman year dorm. One side was all New York people. And the other side was like me and then a bunch of Jersey people. So we heard, I am not lying. We've heard this argument of the poor Pearl Taylor Hand thing at least once a week. And it's not like a, no. it's this. It would be like people would be yelling and like

spreeing. Bagels too. New York bagels. Yes. I'm just at the table trying, you know, eat my fry and I'm like wait, what's going on here? What's all the commotion about? Yeah. They met in a very serious conversation.

It's finding words. It's finding words. Yeah. I was a bystander just letting them, I'm like, kind of this is new. Learned something new. That's more. controversial than my taco burrito statement earlier. Mike, can you click on the on the GPU link there so people can see which GPU is inside this giveaway PC? All right. So why do you guys tell us about this graphics card?

So this here on this one it's going to be this is the P and Y G-Forse RTX 5070. So again, it's the newest 50-series of the third. family GPUs. Everybody I'm sure you might know if you didn't know multi-frame generation. So it utilizes the latest and greatest AI enhancements to enhance your gameplay to where you know for that specific feature you have your standard one frame and then AI is actually creating three frames behind it. So then that way your gameplay is smoother, faster. Then you also get more FPS which is pretty cool. And yeah, it's one of our still, like it's, I would call it small form factor, you know, with the error quotes there just because of, I mean, it's a dual slot thing.

But when you start getting your 5080s and 5090s, if you haven't seen one in person, they are just kind of like going back to the days of like 10 series to now where we're at with 40 and 50 series, you know, two, three, sometimes, some cases, four slots. It's pretty wild. But yeah, like I said, it's the latest and greatest GPU. Again, whoever wins this PC, I'm not going to lie, I'm a little jealous. I wish I can answer, but I haven't said I couldn't. So, yeah, like one lucky winner is going to be able to, you know, get a nice little upgrade if, you know, they don't have the 50 series and it would be great. Yeah, and there's also going to be some fancy schmancy P-N-Y memory.

and SSD's in there too. So, anyone can win, and you don't have to be at TwitchCon to win, but if you are at TwitchCon, head on over to booth number 2,800, after the secret word and you'll increase your chances. But, yeah, this PC is really nice. Whisper and Jerome's here. Tap my shoulder. Yes.

Listen in. What, do you guys think this would be a good PC for people? who want to do more beyond gaming, like creating content or anything, yeah? Yeah, for sure. Like I said, you have the latest, you have the latest Kuda cores, GDDR7 memory, no RT cores, Tensikors, like all the latest and greatest. So that person wants to maybe get into streaming as well, definitely a good stream of PC and all that good stuff. And it only worked with Borderlands 4 in hell is us, though.

So that's the only time. You do nothing else. No, I was going to say, I think that especially because of the Blackwell has like the 9th gen encoders and decoders too. So allowing you to be able to stream and create a little bit more to when it comes to video editing, content creation all across the board. You can do a lot with it. So yeah, definitely adding on to Derek's point.

Yeah, it's just crazy thing back in the day two, like the stream, you'd have to have this dual PC setup. And we're at this day and age where now it's like you can, you can get away with one one PC. You know, your CB can run the stream. All your resources are going to CPU and then your GPU's doing all your graphics, intense workloads and gaming. And you can still have a good, uh, good stream. Yeah. What, what sort of performance do you guys think people can expect on these two games here with this, with these specs? I think you should go to the NZT site and they'll show you the performance.

I'll talk my head. Just on top of your head. Yeah, I'm like, I wish I can give you a pinpoint. But I mean, I guess it depends on too what people, what series are coming from. Or, you know, if you don't have 50 series, you're going to see, you're going to see a gain in performance. I want to say like 5, 10% or anything like that. But again, just with all of the latest advancements in the hardware. and again, just the actual AI features

that are on the Blackwell architecture. I mean, that in itself, I feel like you'd be able to throw, I mean, just about any game at it, and you're good to go. Yeah. I feel like Mac settings won't be a problem. Don't quote me on that, though.

So, you know, I do want to, since you guys have said the word AI a little bit, we were talking about these, GPUs. Yeah. You know, with AI being basically, like, you know, at an all-time high in terms of how advanced it is, where do you see AI being integrated into gaming or hardware in the future? Future-wise, it's just crazy.

I feel like we're at this place, too, like going back to what Jerome was saying at this demo, like, if you're on site, we got to see a demo the other day. in real time with this AI assistant and just thinking of me back in my days just streaming some people and kind of like going back to drone too like consistency like if you're starting off stream and all i only got one or two people watching you get discouraged you may want to quit where like this avatar is literally like a person there that you can speak to just you know where should i drop you know where's the best loop hey my system seems to you know be lagging a little bit check my set it my system settings optimize it for this game like um it's like your personal

assistant now and it's another way to engage i just at least for me going back like before this whole a i assistant thing if i was just you know i'm scrolling through the the for you page whatever on twitch and i seen like this little avatar on the lower right screen like wait what is this and then just it's you know appealing and engaging and you actually see it that you streamer talking to it, I feel like this is kind of like that, that first step. Future, I just think AI in a whole just from even from a gaming. And I mean, you hear about all these other big infrastructures that are doing inferencing and all this other stuff. You can go to like stable diffusion.

You can go to a software, type in a scene or a quick script of like, you know, show me Jerome in a space shuttle. And they'll show you Jerome in the space shuttle. So it's like that cool content ways. And I think in, too, just from the streaming perspective, you know, at that stream's done, you're going to load stuff up to YouTube. You can tell AI, hey, help me with my YouTube thumbnail, get something catchy, like prompt it. So, yeah. Yeah. it's I just think it's only going to advance more and more and just become I don't I know

some people are like get nervous or scared like oh it's going to take jobs or it's going to take this but I think it's more of like a tool to like optimize whatever workflow you know you're in for for someone that is in the call it more content creator space if you're doing a podcast like this and you can just do a AI drop in and take out all the ums and right on the bat it's like done in seconds for versus you chopping up a whole timeline for three hours, taking out all the ums. So it's just, I think it's just gonna be more of a tool,

both gaming, creation, and everything in between. Yeah, and also even again, adding on to, I know you mentioned like the multi-frame generation with DLSS4, I feel like that's a huge factor in where you're, you're generating these multiple frames or three extra frames per, you know, your single one. And I feel like that through, AI is something that even aside from it being a tool it truly helps to kind of transform what you get out of it or what you get to have your gaming experience.

And I feel like AI in these ways can transform your experience from like, you know, if you're running, I know, if you have a pretty old PC and you know, it takes a long time to like and your games are stuttering or it just doesn't feel smooth or responsive and this and that. I feel like it can transform your experience into a positive one in these kinds of ways. So I feel like in those in that framing, it's definitely very helpful. And actually you made me think more too of this Jerome. I think they're like I don't know if anyone heard the term like digital humans or anything like that, but I know there was like Project Ace in a way to where now say if you're playing cyberpunk, you know, we load the game or we're just playing cyberpunk normal going in through the city doing whatever um but now with AI and just all these features that invidia is putting on these cards and

and like pretty much integrating these games it's like instead of you playing the story and you go up to i think the scene was like in one of the sushi bars and cyberpunk you did like click a to say this or click b like you're using your microphone like hey what's what's the special for today and it's interacting with you in real time based off of what you're asking the game so it's just adding more interaction versus just playing a regular storyline in a game, which I think is kind of mind-blowing in itself because it's like, how does this game really know how to react to my question in real time that fast? And that's where it's like we're past that starting point, but just I'm really excited

to see, I guess, where games are going to be in the next, say, five or ten years. It's just going to be, it's going to be crazy. I guess that kind of leads into it. my next thing is like what do you guys see in the next five to ten years of how like P&Y or the PC industry as a whole like what do you guys see in the next five to ten years I'll be like one of the biggest challenges that we're going to have to kind of you know hurdle over that's a good question um I think for me I think it's just like how do we continuously keep on pushing performance in these GPUs.

I mean, 50 series in itself, Blackmore architecture, every architecture keeps advancing. Yeah, just like how do we keep on not being each generation? Yeah. And do you know, what does that look like for gaming, content creation, streaming? Yeah, it's just, I don't know, I'm just trying to think like how do you put that perspective? Because AI, I feel like has evolved over the year, the past two years so fast. So to try to like really think of where it can be 10 years from now. Yeah. And then I'm not saying the last thing.

It's like it's not even just gaming, but like it's think about if you go to. I'm just making it sound like a McDonald's. Like there's kiosk now where you actually talk to a Treen and say, hey, I want A, B, and C. You're not like plugging in order actually dealing with someone if it's super busy. So like AI, that's being pushed by. graphics cards. So it's not only so much you have to go talk to someone and place to order and wait in line, you just go up to his kiosk and I want a number one and number two and whatever and give me the burrito that I even suggests. And, you know, it just, they'll start making it

for you. Mm-hmm. Eating cheese, always beating cheese. Yeah. Yeah, I think it's interesting. Um, it's like from the tech side of AI when it comes to the game industry. of like enhancing the speed at which you can create because say even in terms of like game development I know that's a pretty I mean games are being developed every day especially

for consumers so it's say for example you know if I don't know I'm using a random game grant theft auto like GTA 6 you know it's going to take 20 years to produce and this that and the third and there's so much that goes into it, sometimes there's ways to be able to, you know, use AI to speed up rendering processes or, you know, whether it's a cutscene to or make graphically change or enhance the graphics on a specific section or a portion using neural, what is that? Shaders. Thank you.

Yeah, I feel like there's so many different ways than where you can use as a tool to enhance what you're currently already doing. And I feel like that will shorten the time to time of execution. So I think that that can truly help define what the, you know, five, 10 years can look like because it may speed up, you know, the amount of games. I mean, there's so much to play. There's new games being dropped every day. And if they, of course, game developers can take advantage of that and take advantage of

these use cases through AI. Again, it's not to say have to be just AI, but through AI can help to speed up and ramp up that process. So you can get more higher quality games at a faster rate. Again, just speaking in that game industry specifically. Yeah, and on that note,

how does a company like P&Y balance talking about all those technical science terms that these things can do to support artists in the creative process and things like that because it could get kind of overwhelming and confusing. You know, like, how do you guys balance that? So let's say just to start there is just, I guess it's one thing.

And again, that's where content's always evolving and different. Like we can just say, hey, this is the latest 5090 and it has this much memory, kudicors, and Blackwell architecture and all of that. but now take it a set further. It's like one, we can use this virtual studio that we created to make it more engaging. And it's like, hey, you, the gamer, take your streams to the next level. And it's not just like spec dumping in the video, but it's like it has these new encode and decode engines that help with streaming.

This is how it actually helps. Like giving more, you know, meat and substance to what you're talking about versus just saying, oh, this has X amount of this and X amount of this, an X amount of that but like really bring I think bring the performance to it like gaming you know everyone here is multi-frame generation we can say oh multi-frame generation is the best thing ever it's so cool make sure you get a P and Y GPU but like that that doesn't tell you why you need it and how it actually helps so I think we're like we're trying to do what we are doing is just trying to tell more of like a story through content and how it actually is beneficial versus just trying to say, hey, go buy our product, but like, here's our product and this is how it can solve

streaming, how it can solve gaming, and just different, different workflows, and depending on how you're going to use the actual graphics card and your PC. Yeah. I think, oh, no, so I was going to say, I think that also having that balance of the two different types of people within the company help in a sense in where like Derek's again he's a very technical person at least a lot more technical than me when it comes to be able to like speak and understand these certain terms and you have like the people who uh kind of like me in a way like although first working for P&Y but like I enjoy games I'm a gamer I'm a creative and you have that balance of like a person who knows a lot about the specs and a person knows like a lot about like kind of the story in a way so being able to

tie that to and have sit down conversations and blend and find that middle ground of like, okay, how can we tell the specs in the best story and again, meet in that essential point? I feel like that's really important too. And then also kind of like tying into understanding and getting a better sense of the community too, because that's something that we're still, of course, trying to grow every company, of course, is trying to grow their community and listen and understand, you know, where you can improve. And I think that that's something that, again, we continuously as a company try and, work towards when it's, you know, understanding what's going on out there and how we can tell a better story, especially for today's day and age.

I love that you said that because the last question I want to ask before we get into my favorite part of the show here is, you know, when it comes to getting that feedback from the community, because I know you guys are very in tune with them, you know, how do you use that feedback to influence the decisions you two make at PNY? I have a good example here. Let's say just because I, like I said, nine years at PNY, I remember when we first started. I mean, you probably remember too with like the 10 series, our color was black and red, which is a really popular build theme back in the day, but from me, from the outside

in, before I even started working at P&Y, it's like, I'm doing this custom build, like I want to modify it. I want it to blend. Like if I'm doing a blue and yellow build, I don't want black and red because it's going to clash and then modify it and everything like that. So I think that was one big thing for us because we took that feedback from the community. Like, I'm not going to buy this because it's black and red. It clashes with my theme.

So it's like, here's direct feedback from the community. Not say we have to go right up to RGB, but what's our next step to like then like, gate and keep building ourselves up. So we went from black and red to where it was just like monochromatic, just black and just like a stainless steel in a way, just a steel cooler. And that was well received. And it was great to hear because then even from the community like, okay, I can get behind this. This was like neutral, go with different builds. But now we're like, hey, P and Y, where's my RGB? Everyone, we want RGB. So now it's like getting into the 40, 50 series. I think in the 30 series, I've introduced it.

Yeah, 30 series and above, we have RGB options and non-RGB options because we know from the community, not everybody cares about the lighting effects and all that. They just want a GPU, the blend in and what I like to call like a stealth build. So I think for me, seeing that progression over the last nine years, it's been great. And I guess, like taking those comments and literally screenshoting them and taking them down and put them in a PowerPoint and hey,

exec team are rolling up to management like this is direct this is the best feedback that we can possibly have because it's coming from our community. Like what can we possibly do to start taking baby steps into the right, you know, direction? And I do. I feel like over the years we've really we really honed in on that. I feel like we have that identity. And again, just knowing the community, not everybody wants unicorn puke in or build.

you know, give them both options. Love that. All right. So now it's time for my favorite part of the show, the part that Derek and Jerome have been waiting for. And that is where Mike is just going to ask you a bunch of random questions for you to answer. So Mike, go ahead and ask.

All right. Well, we'll ease it in. You know, we'll do some simple things. And then we'll start getting into my type of question. So first, so we'll start with Derek and Drew. Jerome to make it easier.

Okay. What is your guys... I think you'll Jerome first. Jerome that... No, I'm not... Let's see. Let's see. Oh, what is your favorite game or first game of your childhood and then your

favorite game of your childhood? Specifically, childhood. Okay. It is. I just, I think for me, it's just going to go back to, uh, going back to Nintendo. Mario, Mario was, I feel like the OG thing. Um, I loved Mario. And then I think the whole,

duck hunt was as corny as that sounds but like I just remember having my big old TV it's not like we used to have now these nice OLED super paper thin this thing weighs like a million pounds and uh wait wait I can plug in this little toy thing and like actually like it interact and there's like the first interaction I feel like you know duck hunting in in itself so I still say that I loved Mario I love that um my first game it wasn't it wasn't my because my brothers because I had the older brother so I could just steal his stuff because why get your own when you can steal from your brother but it kind of the same way with the Super Nintendo so we had a Super Nintendo and playing like Mario was like the the greatest thing

the Super Mario at least in terms of the first and then I know as I got a little bit older I think I was still kind of young like I don't know five or or whatever but when the n64 came out that was like that was it for me that was like my first like entrance truly into like gaming and my first game was super smash bros because it came kind of bundled uh so the first ever super smash bros n64 um that was that was it that was my gaming favorite childhood moment uh i used to play that with my sister and brother and cousins would come over and it was a fun time. And then back you up on that.

You're definitely good at that game. He was, he was a, like there was a game lounge at one of the shows. And he's up here's like, you know, put me on the sticks and then Jerome's just like, tag me in.

Powning people in this little like game lounge was funny. And then, uh, I guess now I'm going to do Jerome then, Derek. What is the games that you're playing as of now? And then what is your favorite of all time? Ooh,

that's crazy. Um, Okay, so game that I'm playing right now, I went back and I started playing. I've been kind of catching up on Final Fantasy 7 rebirth and remake. So I wasn't super into the Final Fantasy kind of growing up because we were like Nintendo 64 and that was mainly like PS2 era. Did get one eventually, but that was a different era. So I never got a chance to kind of go back to it. Um, but I recently started I beat the first Final Fantasy 7 remake, um, amazing gorgeous game.

Um, and even though of course, a little bit older, but you know, you got to dig in the backlog sometimes. Um, and then I'm like currently like halfway through ish on the rebirth. So that is kind of like what I'm currently playing right now. Um, in between time of, you know, work, life and all this other stuff. You know, you got to make some time for gaming when you can. Um, but that's what I'm currently playing uh of all time is kind of tough because i have like i break into two categories like a nostalgia play and then like uh straight on like what i feel is the greatest game i've ever played like point blank period so my my point blank period one i feel like it's it's more it's kind of a newer pick but i would say elden ring elden ring that was like that was like that

was peak for me because it took me from like being a casual gamer and we're like I was still playing RPGs and this that and third I was playing random stuff but the sense of accomplishment that you get from a game like that where it's like you're just thrown into a world you don't know what's going on you pick up a stick and just start hitting things and you die automatically and that's it's just like rinse and repeat till you get better and better and better um that's uh and then the the aspect of like the world building and how in depth you can go and literally every corner is completely different you can walk to the right see someone completely different than the left um it felt truly immersive so i feel like that was one of the

games that i feel like there's so much i can loki rant on about it uh but not gonna because there's a time frame to this um but uh yeah there's so much to that game that i feel like is is peak in like 10 out of 10 like what is topping it um so that's my pick for that A nostalgia play. This one, I would say it's a little known game, random. It's called Tatsunoka versus Capcom. It's a fighting game on the Wii, I think. Crazy random game, but it was absolutely fire.

I put in so many different hours into it as a little young in at the time. And I was just playing it. It was just kind of like a Marvel versus Capcom two game type of game. or it's just like a you know a 2v2 fighter um but yeah that's kind of like my personal sleeper pick for nostalgia that game's awesome you played it yeah it's it's awesome oh what's okay my man i think i've been like some like a little bit of everything yeah i love that same oh man for me mine mine has to be connect four free online classic i will i i do love connect for um but uh i know for me jerome like watching him play

elder ring i remember he was starting to play he's trying i'll be i'll be honestly i never been like an open world gamer i've always just been fps shooter games um and i just remember he would say derrick like go spend this money and get elder ring is the best thing and i watched him on stream and I'm seeing him rage a little bit. I'm like, Jerome, this isn't convincing me. I don't know about this. Although you do rage a little bit in the FPS shooter. But maybe for me, I think mine is Battlefield.

I just, I love Battlefield. I think my favor of all time is Battlefield 3. I feel like that was the one. I mean, going back even, I think it was it, it, Battlefield 1942. That was a fun one to play, but 3 just has

a special place. And as of like right now, gaming, I wish I had more time in the game. I don't game as much as I used to. Just, again, kids and family and work

and everything, but I think my upcoming game, and I want to build a PC is for Battlefield 6. That just releasing today yeah i mean i got i need to build like i i i need to go i got go get parts and build something rocan but yeah i i don't know i just i love battlefield that that's been my my go-to game just give me a sniper and just i that's it game over i'm with you on battlefield three

balfield three and bad company two were like i don't i don't think i have more hours in a game then those. I would just stay as a medic and I'm just reviving people. That's all I do. Especially the vehicles too. It's just like even then like people get mad at me and like try to shoot me down my own teammates

because I'm just in a jet flying around just taking everything in like I'm that guy. I'm like let me just get one jet please. But yeah, Battlefield is definitely best to go to. Oh, I love to. I love to ask this actually question. What is the,

most surprising thing you've learned about your guys' community? That's a good one. Yeah, that's interesting. Because I think I can... No, one on, because you're so... That's funny. But no, I just... Do you want me to go?

Well, I mean, I can start. Like, I don't think we long here, but I think I'll let you talk for 40 minutes after me. I'm a yapper. I know, that's funny. I mean, I think any company would agree, but it is just like the feedback. It's like one of those things to where it's like, they're like, hey, this is great or, hey, like, this needs to be improved or make these changes kind of like going back to the whole color scheme and all of that. Yeah, and just, I think just to create too, like Jerome and I,

when we used to do streams every Friday, we met one, we met one. one person there and he did some design work. You know, I'm talking about Jerome and put it in posters and all this stuff. Yeah, so I don't know what you have to add to that, but that's a good question.

Yeah, I was going to say that, again, because I started, I learned more about the PC community as I grew in P&OI as opposed to knowing about it and then kind of hopping into it. Um, for me, it was understanding how truly, number one, how die hard they are when it comes to every single aspect of like, hey, you know, this video actually that one thing has 48 kutakouris instead of this and like their spec. They know every single thing. So you have to be on top of your, your stuff when it comes to that. Um, but I think also something that like I also kind of find fascinating in a way is how much the community can't.

affect the companies in ways in where they're, again, I'm able to understand and learn the feedback based off of what the community is saying and sometimes, you know, make adjustments and changes, because I'm even thinking in terms of like, you know, you have standard communities in everything. For me, I, I'm very in tune with like music and artists and stuff like that. So sometimes if, you know, an artist drops an album

and the community, whether they love it or hate it, they'll rant on, but you still have like the diehard fans. And that's definitely still a thing. But, you know, people can complain all they want sometimes. And, you know, an artist may still just drop whatever they feel like dropping because, you know, it's just an artist. And also in ways that's somewhat similar in the context of like a company. But at the same time within the PC industry, it's kind of, it's a good thing. And whereas sometimes it's very good to be vocal.

and I feel like we're able to take that and learn from the community as well. So that's something that I learned. Ooh, this is actually a question that kind of like, you think it's like a very simple one, but you kind of learn a lot about the person is what would your guys last meal be? Oh, you want to go first, Eric? Last meal. You learned a lot about a person and their childhood and what they like on this question. I'm telling you.

because when I'm about to say I know it's kind of like that whole burrito beef out there man like I don't want to start I think man Go draw you go first on this okay I can go I would say So

I have a couple I have a couple different last meals even though it doesn't make any sense No you can do a lot of things yeah Yeah yeah because it could be like A breakfast lunch dinner and all that okay Yeah, like a whole day of last meals, or you can do like a three-course meal, you know what I'm saying? So for me, though, if I had to pick like one, because I don't want to ramble on for 20 days. If I'd have to pick one, my family's Jamaican, so usually it would probably be like a really good jerk chicken with like classic rice and peas.

There's like some greens called it Kalolulu. Um, there's, uh, like, you throw us like some fried dumpling or acci and saltfish. It's like a lot of like Jamaican food, uh, but it's cooked with love and it's cooked with seasoning and it's fire. Um, it's nice and spicy, but you get the sweetness. Um, there's like some molasses and like the jerk seasoning. Um, I kind of like to cook too. So like there's, there's so much to it. There's time. Rosemary. That's that and third. I'm not going to rant on about it. But I feel like that would probably be my last final meal. And Jerome is a really mean cook.

Random thing here. I just remember we were like looking and we're filling out our content schedule. We're looking at like national hashtag days and stuff. And we had like there was like chocolate chip cookie day. And this is like when Jerome was fresh on scene here. And he went home and like baked these cookies, got some B rule and some images and stuff and put them out on social. I was like,

that's awesome. Like going above above and beyond here, which was cool. But for me, there's so many things. but I think where I would I would land at is I love barbecue. I barbecue myself. And just there's nothing better when a brisket is cooked the right way and some pulled pork,

like some street tacos with pulled porker is something like just. And then you got your mac and cheese and smoked baked beans and all that good stuff. I think I think I would tailor all around around that with some like banana pudding or something. in there. Just, you know, I, yeah, I'm down south. So we, we, actually my neighborhood, we, we, we have like a kind of funny, like a few people here that will like team up and smoke something over the weekends and share together.

And, uh, yeah, I think brisket and just something like that brisket and cheese. Oh my gosh. Big beans. Some bread and I need lunch yet. Yeah, I don't know. I'm hungry. I'm like, hey, no, I'm going since 3 a.m. Some good old biscuits and gravy to start the day off too.

Southern food, it's different. Yeah, it would be that southern barbecue. I'm hungry. I guess going along with the food train, so you have an option. You can choose one or the other. You can do $2 for every French fry you eat or $1 for every push-up you do. $2 for every French fry you eat or $1 for every push-up. push-up you do. I'm doing push-ups. I would do French fry though. Wait, because I don't want

these I want to do some push-ups and get in shape, you know? But am I understanding this right though? Because you're so I'm basically receiving two dollars if I eat one French fry, but I receive $1 if I do a push-up. Yes. So basically someone actually broke down how much is in like a McDonald's fry on average. Like a small fry is around like 20 to 25 and then for like a large fry, it's like 30 to 50 or so. So you're talking about calories? No, just per fry.

It's not all about the money. I'm telling you. You're saying one French fry for two dollars. French fries is that what you're saying? No, one, one like small fry has 25 fries in it. Oh, oh. You'll make like 50 bucks for a small fry or you can do. a push-up, which is healthier, but you probably will make less money.

So it's what you guys think, you know, which one's a trade-off? So we're going by, like, a small bag of fries where you get $2 per fry or push-ups. I want to be a shit. Or, I mean, if you really want to, you can make the only thing you eat for the rest of your life just French fries and you're making bang. You totally do that. That's what I'm thinking. That's the only what I'm thinking, because I'm wondering if there's like a time limit.

No time. French fries. Like, you know, like, you're just constantly in French fries and nothing else. So you just eat french fries and you make bank. I don't know, man. By eating French fries. But you can still do push-ups too. I would just do the push-up while eating the french fries.

No, you choose one or the other. You choose one or the other. So you can never do a push-up. Yeah, I was just eat fries and do push-ups at the same time. But, yeah, no. I don't know. My brain is thinking of loopholes. I'm trying to think of, oh, I could do squats.

I could do lunges. I could do this. You already, you already found the last meal loophole with your three-course meal thing, man. I know. My brain is just full of loopholes. That's great. Yeah, I'd probably do French fries. All right.

Push us. I like this. I'm going to go for the push-up healthier version. It forces me to be healthier. Even though I could down probably 300 fries every day for us of my life. Especially we get the right fresh French fries. The one in Boston, remember that, Jerome? Oh, my gosh.

The greatest French fries of all time. It was like called 800. wasn't like 849 it was like some weird thing or no 723 fries like do we have 723 fries you're like no but this is about to be the best fry you ever have the great if i had those fries i'm still doing push-ups but yeah i'm telling you those are the greatest fries i've ever had in my entire life i wish i could plug them but if i remember it all do you if you guys remember it said it to us because now i'm just because i have a friend that i'll i will yeah if you're in boston at packs east like you must go to this place i don't even

We care. Don't even get a lobster or any of that crazy stuff. Just tell me why a limited fries and you will you will be happy. Yeah. It was like a lobster place like they have like lobster rolls. And it was lobster rolls was amazing. They were amazing. But what took the cake was the french fries. That was so good. It was. It was crazy. That's so good. You're hungry. Yeah. I know now. I'm hungry. I'm very hungry. I guess for the final one. And we're going to keep on. You know, I'll just I'll just I'll just do this one because it's the food related one. That's what I'm. I'm hungry. I'm hungry. I'm very hungry. I guess for the final one. I'll just I'll just I'll just, I'll just do this one. That's what I'm. That's what I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm I've had a lot of arguments on and Ivan remembers this because I used to do this almost every podcast, which was, is a hot dog a sandwich? I hear about this one. What do you think, Ivan? Yeah, because the definition of a sandwich is what? It's like a piece of bread with something in it, right? At least that's how I define it. Yeah.

But wouldn't that be a sub, like I guess a sandwich, you're, you have a topic. the bottom disconnected to where your hot dog is similar to a sub in a way now all subs are cut in half you're kind of just made a little groove to put your your meat lettuce and all that good stuff in there i don't know that's what i'm saying i feel like it's an open face sandwich i feel like it's technically open face sandwich because you can kind of like fold it you can still have an open face sandwich and just like slightly fold it that doesn't it's a hot dog that is the philosophical debate right there is the fact that the bun is on a hinge, you know, so you could

But it's still connected though. That's what I mean? You can interpret it both ways. I personally if it's a piece of bread with meat or whatever it is and yeah, it's a sandwich. I think I think the the deciding factor is it's the the meat is the hot dog. That is what makes it the hot dog. So regardless of what bread and bun, like that's the bread and the bread that's a side story the hot dog like lizzie that is what makes it the hot dog you know what I'm saying but do you ever go out and you eat the hot dog by itself without bread no but you need that bread you need a true hot dog you need that bread the hot dog but it doesn't especially off the

way you get your ketchup mustard some jalap onions on there all that yeah but it doesn't take away from it being a hot dog though you know what I'm saying like a hot dog is still a hot dog whether you it in a bread in a bun to the side just grilled up you know you're saying you're grilling up hot dogs you're not grilling up the bread with it so I actually do I actually put the bottom you got to butter it up and you get the bun a little toasty you got that's the only way to do it I don't know I feel like I mean I agree with that but um yeah I feel like the hot dog I feel like the hot dog itself is the hot dog so without the bread it's still a hot dog but with the bread technically it makes it a sandwich in my eyes.

Oh, I like that actually. You know what I'm saying? I like that actually. It turns it into a sandwich. It's like a hot dog sandwich, but because sandwich is too repetitive, you just call it a hot dog. Someone, uh,

it's like a BLT sandwich. There's a video. I forgot what show it was it, but these guys are doing like a hot dog eating contest and you actually brought up like literally the reason why everyone starts yelling during the show is because during the hot dog eating cup. Like what it, what constitutes you as the hot dog?

Like, can I just have the actual, just the weater itself would be done? Or do I have to have it with the thing? And then that's when it just all blew up. Everyone gets loose. Yeah. That's crazy. Yeah. I'm on the hot dog as a sandwich stuff.

Because, like, if you technically rip the bun, then it becomes two pieces. And I'm like, I'm like, I'm going to have a sandwich at that point. It's, yeah. It's technically by definition, a sandwich. however, it is not socially acceptable to call it a sandwich, but you can all agree. Either you walk into somewhere and say,

I will take a hot dog sandwich, right? Actually, no, we're gonna, there we go. There's a content idea. We're gonna, we're gonna do that. We're gonna do it. We're gonna find a hot dog place and Jerome's gonna go in there say, I want a hot dog sandwich and see what the heck. Maybe we actually go figure it out live.

We could do it, but I just want how to say sandwich, but because sandwich is implied. That's why I feel like the bread as it. The bread implies a sandwich. So if you go for a hot dog, do you think you say, hey, I want a hot dog? They're just going to bring a hot dog with the bun though. If you just go in a hot dog openly and say, hey, if you go in a hot dog joint and you say, I want a hot dog.

They're not just going to put a hot dog on a plate for you. They're going to give you a hot dog in the bun because it's part of it. You can have a hot dog without a bun. You can, but it depends on where you go. You can. No, you go somewhere. You ask for that hot dog, you know, you know, it's going to be bread. Do you consider sausage links hot dogs?

Oh, man. Do you consider sausage links hot dogs? Would you put sausage link on bread? You can? I do. All the time. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

So depending where you go. Oh, boy. You can go to a barbecue. Let's keep going for three hours. This is why I love this question. It's like my friends. We got to throw midnight to figure this out, okay? I got time.

This is why I love this question because every single time we've done it, everyone goes, no. And then someone goes, well, blah, blah, blah. And it just goes. You know what you can do? You should just ask AI. Ask like Chad GPT. I'm curious, whatever it's going to be funny.

What is the end of the day? It's not going to know that without the bun. No, can I? The bun is not considered a hot dog. But, yeah, that's how. I see it. I like I this is my my favorite question because it gets everyone heated and I love it. Let's see.

I think that is it for my rapid fire. So I'm going to go through a couple announcements and then I'll hand it over to you to talk about any fun stuff you have coming up. So I'll go through these real quickly. We just launched our new cracking core and gold core PSUs. So we got some new coolers and some new power supplies. You can take a look at Eskomation Point new stuff in chat. or take a look at n60.com.

We also have some prime stuff going on right now. You can get up to $500 off Prime PCs, like a player one, two, three prime PCs. So take a look at Eskimosion Point Prime, if you want to take a look at that. We also have a big Amazon sale going on right now so you could look at our Amazon page. It's nz60.com slash Amazon.

Everything's basically on sale. We've got coolers, cases, peripherals, everything you can think of. It's on sale. Go take a look at that. If you need some new stuff, Go for it. We are doing an Intel, we are doing an Intel PC giveaway going on right now,

basically because of our Intel N60 Intel Club. We basically can give away free stuff to you guys. So take a look at nz60.co slash club or Eskimition Point Club in chat. And basically, you sign up, participate in the community, and you earn poochie points, which is what that sound effect is right there. And then the more points you earn, the more entries you have to do the giveaway. So if you have to start, start now. Because the more you points you get, the more entries you get.

Super easy. And now I'm going to hand it over to you guys. So first of all, do you guys have any new exciting projects or content you're working on that you can reveal? Nothing new that we can't. Like, I mean, if anything is, yeah. I think the latest and greatest right now is the 50 series from, you know, a gaming perspective. So, yeah, anything always down? to entry level to 5090 um you check us out uh you know so yeah p and y dot com for slash gaming we're on

amazon as well just like you so uh yeah just look us up and uh hopefully you know p and why will be power in your next uh next pc yeah and also to add on to that too like some of the next upcoming content um i know that we of course plugging twitch con that's going to be the biggest activation that we have planning right now. Events, we're always looking to do more, show up at different events, participate in different ways. So definitely make sure you guys come out and see us at TwitchCon. Again, cool activations, checking out the booth.

We're going to be doing some like smaller giveaways at the booth too. Of course, some swag, some raffles, all that fun stuff. And yeah, I mean, of course, holidays are coming up. So definitely keep a lookout for everything that we post on socials, as well as, of course, if you're in the market for all of our different products, definitely keep an eye out for what we have going on. And yeah, we're going to continue to kind of keep pushing throughout the year. So kind of reiterating exactly kind of what Derek said.

But yeah. And everyone should follow at PNY Tech Gaming on Twitter, on Facebook, on Instagram, on YouTube, and most importantly, P&Y technology is on LinkedIn. That's my favorite social media you guys have. Because you actually guys do a pretty good job on LinkedIn, to be honest. We've got to step up our LinkedIn game, Mike. We don't do enough on there.

We'll do it. Yeah, that was like on the focus because everything is like Instagram, X, and all of those. But it's just P&Y has such a large portfolio products. It's like how do we show love? to all those products, but not make it overwhelming. And then also, I mean, just add in here too. It's like we're not only just, we don't just sell the product. Like we're actual users of our products.

So like for anyone new out there, if you haven't like, you know from now follows, like if you haven't come across our content, I was just encouraging a look at it. It's definitely inspiring to see like outside of just, you can see it say, oh, go buy P and all that, but like actually we're users of it and to see like the Unreal Engine. studio and all the different creative ways. You can utilize a graphics card. It's cool. And yeah, we try to

show that out on LinkedIn as well across the board. Awesome. So like we reiterated, TwitchCon, huge thing you guys are going to boost 2,800, correct? For the game. So go, guys, go

check them out at TwitchCon. And if you're there, you can also get a special secret word. It gives you 500 extra entries into the giveaway. So if you're there, you know, it's worth it. For those that can't get there, no worse. You're still entering into the giveaway. It's just those at Twitchcon get a little special treat because you're there.

Before we end it off, do you guys have any final thoughts or messages you'd like to share with the audience? I mean, I can start. I mean, again, thank you guys so much for having us. It's really cool to get a chance to do partner activations like this and where we're going to events. showing off different products, you know, doing collaborative builds. And again, we have a lot in it comes to the pipeline of content. Ideally, again, when we have these two builds that we're going to be showing off the demos at TwitchCon, we can definitely be showing them much more in terms of content, B-roll, pictures, all this cool stuff.

So definitely keep an eye out for on our socials and everything that we have going on because we're going to be doing a lot of build installs. um you know how to's everything whether it comes to the hardware side as well as software too because i know we have velocity x in where you know you can control your rgb your overclocking etc so there's a lot that we have in the tank and uh we're really excited to share with you guys and again thank you for hosting us that we can talk about it all yeah just back that up to like everything's rome said and also just uh yeah thanks for having us i have and i like you know know, we go, we go way back and like, I guess here just, you know, live too, just really thank you and even just N60 as a whole, like the spearhead, just me personally, like to push me to

do these builds that I did and actually believed in me. I was just like a random builder out there on the internet and to grow community personally myself and then get into this industry. And it is like this here is just just full circle and kind of again, like we. what you said and just put your mind to it if you really want it you'll make it happen go get it and uh that's it appreciate y'all if i could go back in time i think my advice would be just do the opposite of what you want to do and then that's what you should be doing because i feel like uh the the human mind always wants to do like what's easy and simple and quick and all this but if you just say like all right i'll do the opposite of that then you end up where

Derek and Jerome are today. So thank you guys for for joining us on the podcast. Thank you for allowing us to be at the TwitchCon booth with you. And thank you everyone who tuned in live today. Yeah. Thank you guys. Thank you. Yeah.

So thank you. Thank Jerome. Thank you, Derek, for joining us. And thank you, the audience for, you know, tuning in and talking with us about the awesome giveaways and stuff that is happening. Make sure to visit them at. TwitchCon at Boost 2,800. So remember tuned in live on Fridays

at 10 a.m. Pacific Standard Time on the official N60 Twitch. And don't forget to listen to previous episodes on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and SoundCloud. If you have any questions for us, you can email podcasts at n60.com or tag at N60 on all social media platforms. Thank you, Derek Jerome. And thank you, everyone.

And have a very safe weekend, everyone. Thank you. Take care. Thank you, everyone.