Off Menu with Ed Gamble and James Acaster - Amanda Seyfried

Episode Date: February 4, 2026

Oscar-nominated actor, ‘Mean Girls’ alumnus and star of the new film ‘The Testament of Ann Lee’ Amanda Seyfried is our latest dream diner. And the genie has a cat tail this week.‘The Testament of Ann Lee’ is out in UK cinemas on Friday 20 February.Follow Amanda on Instagram @mingeyWatch the video version of this episode on the Off Menu YouTube on Thu 5 Feb.Off Menu is now on YouTube: @offmenupodcastFollow Off Menu on Instagram and TikTok: @offmenuofficial.And go to our website www.offmenupodcast.co.uk for a list of restaurants recommended on the show.Off Menu is a comedy podcast hosted by Ed Gamble and James Acaster.Produced, recorded and edited by Ben Williams for Plosive.Video production by Megan McCarthy for Plosive.Artwork by Paul Gilbey (photography and design). Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Welcome to the off-menu podcast, taking the pasta dough of conversation, putting it through the pasta machine of humour and making the tagliatele of podcasting. That is Ed Gamble. My name is James Acre. Together, we own a dream restaurant. And every single week, we invite a guest. Askin the favourite ever start. A main course dessert, side dish and drink. Not in that order. And this week, our guest is Amanda Seifred. Yes, a wonderful actor, James, of course. One actor, man. Yeah, so many things. Mank. Got an Academy Award. for Mank. Oh yeah. Yeah, yeah. Mean girls.

Mean girls, of course. Mamma Mia. Mama Mia, of course. And the new film that Amanda will be talking to us about, The Testament of An Lee or the woman clothed by the sun with the moon under her feet.

It sounds fantastic. It does. It's about, I never heard of Anley, didn't know who Anley was. Somebody who founded the Shakers, which is a religious sect, it's an incredible story. We're going to talk to Amanda more about it.

We are. Learn more about it. And I'm very much looking forward to seeing the film. Yes. much so. The Testament of Van Lee is in cinemas on the 20th of February this year. We will also, of course, be talking to Amanda about her dream menu, James. Oh yes, I thought we would.

Yeah. However, if Amanda says the secret ingredient, which is an ingredient we deem to be unacceptable, we will have to kick her out of the dream restaurant. Yes, we will. And the secret ingredient this week is Calteen bars. Calteen bars is from mean girls. Yeah, it's from mean girls. Yeah, it's from mean girls.

So probably unlikely. It's not going to come up because I don't think it's a real thing, but it is something from Mean Girls. Yeah. Yeah. So, like, that's us hedging, basically making it safe that we don't have to kick the guest out. Hey, here's a little secret for you. Okay.

I love Mean Girls. Ed loves Mean Girls, everyone. It's very sad. Embarrassingly, I've never seen Mean Girls. It's crazy to me. It's crazy. You've seen so many films. It's insane.

Mean Girls is such a good film. I've been to see Mean Girls the musical. I love Mean Girls. Yeah. So I've got to watch it. And I love Mean Girls. No? Yeah, yeah.

Not going to bite on that. I did know you liked being girls. Yeah, sure, come on. Cold, be as cold as you like. Your wife's quite nice. Oh, yeah, no, she's a lovely lady. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, I found a good one. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. But you love mean girl. Yeah, I ain't marrying a mean girl. No, but you like him. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Who's your favorite?

Who's my favorite mean girl? Yeah, you know. I couldn't say, what, in my life? Yeah. I couldn't say that. That would be, they don't probably don't know, realize they're a mean girl. Chloe pets

Yeah You can watch it on YouTube Yeah tomorrow tomorrow you can watch this on YouTube but why not listen to it now and then watch

it on YouTube tomorrow Yeah do both and see if it as you imagined it in your head Yeah exactly Let's get on with it then This is the off-menu menu of Amanda

Syphred Welcome Amanda to the dream restaurant Welcome Amanda Sipher to the dream restaurant and be spent to you for some time Thank you so much

I'm being a genie there James is a genie in the podcast because he can get you whatever meal you want from wherever. Yeah, good question. Any color you want? Yeah, it's like your dream. Pink? Pink? Yeah, yeah.

I think it's the first time you've been pink. I love it. Glitter hair. Yeah, nice. Giant purple eyes. Yeah. Maybe a tail. Yeah.

I wouldn't turn down a tail. Yeah. Like a fluffy tail. Like a cat tail. Yeah. A sleek cat tail. Any color you want. Oh, that's nice.

I get to pick the tail color. It's rare the genie gets to pick. I like to stick with pink, really, so that it looks like it's like one, it's part of me. Yeah. I don't want to go like a different color and then like, I think I'm going to follow your lead and continue with the pink tail. Maybe some blue stripes, actually. Yeah. Yeah.

Like bagpuss. Yes. You like bagpuss? I like bagpuss. I like his look. I like his name. Yeah. Wasn't expecting a bagpuss reference from you.

Yeah. I wasn't expecting to discover bagpuss. No. Because I still don't really get it. But I, it's one of those UKisms. I was very fond of. How did you get introduced to Bagpus? Just by living here back in the day.

It's probably the same week I learned what Minge meant. That's quite the week. Yeah, that's a big week. I was in a lot of cues as opposed to lines and a lot of quids everywhere. Yeah. This was huge.

How long were you living in the UK? On and off for a while, many years. I'm picking up all these bits of information like bag person. I mean, I learned a lot in the first week from my two friends and my driver who's still with me outside. Oh, yeah. Nice. He's family. But it's just funny.

The words, you know, your slang is completely, it was completely foreign to me. It was exciting to be in this new foreign world, but they speak English, but they don't. Did you take, did you take, like, Minge back to the States with you? Yeah, sure did. Yeah. Yeah. There's minges everywhere now. People say it.

People say it in Hollywood. Well, my handle on Instagram is Mingee because, you know, Instagram's been around for 15 years or whatever. Yeah. And it's just my nickname. And I have it on my foot, tattooed on my foot, a few other girls. And it's just a nickname. If you don't think about what you're saying anymore, it's just term of endearment. So you have Mingey tattooed on your foot?

Just Minge. Just Minge. Yeah, yeah. Just Minge on the foot. Mingey for the socials. social thing. That's fun. Yeah, you got... Sure. Yeah, that's like...

Yeah, that's fun. You've got to give it fun for the social. Add a Y to your names. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Eddie and Jamesy. Eddie E. Eddie E. Oh, so you're adding an extra Y.

Yeah, yeah. Oh, I pre-added the Y, but if you want to add an extra Y, that's fine. I'll be Eddie and you'll be Jamesy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just carry on going recurring E sounds at the end of our names. And the more E's, the more fun you are? Yeah, like the louder you. you say it, I guess.

Yeah? The more impact it has, so maybe. Bad pussy? Yeah, yeah. For example. That actually gets better the more easy you add to it. The initial way. Bag pussy, thank you for bringing that back so quickly and so gently and so,

and so with such a commitment. Yeah. Had to commit to it. If I went in half-assed there, that would have been bad. Yeah, that would have been really bad. I think the only way is to fully commit to that. You know what? The first cat I ever really knew was called bad, bad pussy.

Right, it was called bad pussy. Yeah, yeah. That was its name by its owner named at that? Yeah. Yeah. Because she climbed the curtains. Oh, yeah. So I inherited that.

I think it was my aunt. This is my grandparents' cat. So aunt bad pussy. So your grandparents' cat becomes your aunt. Yeah, that's the way works. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. On bad pussy.

Look up family trees head, and that's how it works. Yeah. My mom's sister, it was bad pussy. Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, your mom's sister's bad, bad pussy. Aren't bad pussy. That should be a, I mean, that should be a character in a film. No, you have bag pussy, which is way better. Yeah, yeah, that's true.

At least we just discovered. We're not related to bag pussy so sadly. We don't know. I haven't been on who do you think you are. You could go on that show. There's a show called Who Do You Think You Are and they trace their... Oh, I did a show like that in America. Yeah.

There's like a couple of them in America, right? And like, yeah, I might be related to Bugpus. Could be, yeah. That would be very exciting. Probably not, though. Who were you related to when you did it? A lot of, most of my family came over from outside of Frankfurt in like the mid-1800s. So they're all dead.

Yeah. All everyone, all your ancestors are dead? If they, if the ones who migrated, yes, they are in fact longer. That must have been so sad to find out. Yeah. Yeah. The American version of this show is different to our one. But your one, they just go, bad news.

They're all dead. They, not at first, but one of my great, great-grandfather, it was murdered in cold blood, in his pretzel shop on a street that is very close to my house in Allentown, in Pennsylvania. Oh, wow. They moved from outside of Frankfurt to Allentown, Pennsylvania and lived there from the mid-1800s. I think that's commitment. Murdered in a pretzel shop. And he was murdered.

He was just robbed and murdered. Yep. In a pretzel shop. So is it going to be triggering bin on a food podcast? Because of the pretzel shop incident? Oh, no. Such a good actor that we all fell for it. Yeah, definitely.

I genuinely fell for that. Yeah. I really love pretzels, though, but they're not part of my dream food. No. Well, fair enough. Yeah, they bring up bad memories as well, though, right? No. No?

No, I know I eat pretzels differently now Yeah It's my entire experience eating pretzels It's enhanced because of my history Yes, of course, yeah It's more like a tribute Yeah, yeah, yeah

So it is an honoring every time Yeah Well look, that little bit of acting you gave us just there Absolutely sugars to the core Yeah, I felt that And obviously we'd like to talk about the testament of An Lee Which is actually the whole title is even longer Do you know the title off by heart?

I do you know it off by heart? Yeah The woman clothed by the sun with the moon under her feet. It's a very nice title. It's beautiful. This kind of amazing images. Yeah, absolutely. What can you tell us about, Andy?

I didn't know anything about this person. Not many people did. Yeah. You're not alone. I mean, I grew up in America. And you would have thought, you know, a feminist who was able to create the biggest utopian society in American history would have been at least mentioned one. her twice and school and nothing. And I actually grew up in the Northeast where she settled. So

she's really an icon, a feminist icon, you know, for people who really studied that time period especially. It's like she was, you know, women were men's property, their husband's property, and there were slaves. And yet she created this, this community of people who were just treated equally, like completely inclusive. She was their mother, but she was one of them, and she got to created a space for people to, you know, grow in prosperity with, you know, just building and being together and having no, having complete equality. And that was just like, that's very progressive. It's still progressive. It's still goddamn progressive. And she made, manage to do that until, you know, in the Shaker community lives on. I mean, there's three,

but still we're talking 2025. Obviously, the, The thing that I think most people can't really get down with is that they were a celibate. But the celibacy came from something very real, like a very real trauma in her life. She lost all of her kids in stillbirths and in infancy. So that could bring a person to their knees. That can make someone desperate for some kind of peace and end of suffering. And she was able to find that and bring people in, which is to lead through love and compassion and nurturing instead of power and fear. is an extraordinary thing.

It's pretty simple, and it lifts people up. For the greater good, she, like, you know, she made an impact for a lot of 6,000 people at one time. So weird that I didn't know about her. And people definitely are going to know now because Mona had such a vision, a clear vision, about what she wanted this movie to look like. She's the director.

So there's a lot of music, a lot of movement. Nothing you've ever heard or seen before. So that's special, too, just very unique. everything about this project. Role of a lifetime. Can't believe we made it for like under $10 million. Yeah. It's like an epic 34-day shoot,

which is an epic tale shot in 34 days is near to impossible. Does it make it easier that not many people know that much about to play a role like that? It's definitely easier because we take liberties in everything that we do. You know, when we're portraying somebody, it's our portrayal.

It's not fact. Even when you're playing real people and it's based in fact, it's not necessarily the way it was because you can't reenact that. But with less information out there, the more we can actually take liberties. And the easier it is for audiences to be drawn in because, you know, when you don't know what you're getting into, you know, you're not, you don't have any expectations. And you get to tell this story for the first time as well. So people are finding out about this woman and you're the one who's telling them. That must be an exciting thing.

It's, yeah, it's, well, it's intimidating as well because I, Mona Faswell wrote this with her partner Brady. And she's directing us, and because it's her baby because she's so curious and really obsessed with this, with this woman. And so I also wanted to be, I wanted to provide her everything she needed for, you know, in order to direct me in order for, you know, to embody her for her and, and to honor the character, the, the actual Aunt Lee. to honor Mona and Anne Lee and everybody who worked tirelessly to bring this to life, I have to be, I have to go there, I have to go all the way there that's scary

because sometimes the parameters of being on set aren't enough to keep you safe from your own, you know, breakdown, emotional breakdown. Yeah. I haven't gone nuts yet though. That's good. We're very glad to hear it. We're very glad to hear it.

We always start the dream meal. We still are sparkly in water. Do you have a preference? Still, still, still. Oh, yeah. No doubt in your mind there. Do you have anything against sparkling water? No, nothing against it.

I'm just always thirsty, and sparkling water just doesn't cut it. Doesn't quench the thirst at all. And it, it's bubbly, and so we know what bubbles do. Sure. Do you drink a lot of water when you're on set, when you're acting in you? More than anybody I know. Yeah. Fact.

Yeah. I've never met somebody who drinks as much water as I do. Wow. Yeah, I'm always thirsty. I always have a bottle by my side. In fact, I always have my Nalgene with the two eyeballs that I designed on the Nalgene website once and had to buy 48 of them because... Now, what are you saying? Nalgine bottle, yeah.

It's like just a plastic BPA-free water bottle with a little handle. There's little eyeballs on it. And I'm running out of them, but I put like a really nice straw inside of it and it's constantly filling up. And I bring it everywhere with me except overseas. Right. So do you miss the bottle when you're traveling? Every day. Yeah, yeah.

What are you having to settle with here? Well, glass. Yeah? And I drink about three or four of these a day. Yeah. Wow, that's a decent amount of water. That's a lot. I love meal water.

Drink it out the bottle right now. Huge respect. We've had some guests on who don't drink any water. I know a lot of people who don't drink water. They get soda. I'm just like, how, I was just curious as to what organs look like. But what do I know? Yeah. And you can't ask people what their organs look like. No, it's like, it's, it's really, I mean, unless you're a doctor, you have some like special devices.

You can't tell and you can't ask. It's frowned upon to say, what do you organs look like? Sometimes it comes to your skin. Yeah, it does. Well, this is why I thought, you know, if you're hanging out on set with a lot of other actors and stuff, surely all the other actors are down in water because you've got to keep the skin looking fresh. I don't know. We've interviewed Florence Pugh, and she said she never drinks water. That's true. She's crazy to me.

Google it. Yeah. So like... She never drinks water? Doesn't like it, doesn't see the... It just thinks it's a lie. Things like how good it is for you is a lie. I also think we can trust our bodies.

If we crave something, we probably need it. I mean, the doctors always say, you know, if you crave meat, it's because your iron levels are low. So I think in some ways our body's going to take care of us in some ways. And I think if you... don't crave water, you're probably getting enough liquid hydration through fruits or vegetables. So I don't know. Who knows? Also, when you're drinking juice, that's partly water. Yeah.

So she is, she probably has what she needs. Do you reckon? I do reckon. I know a lot of people who don't drink water. But I worry about those people. I do worry about internally. Do you drink a lot of water? I drink a reasonable amount of water.

I go through phases with water where, you know, sometimes I'll really be across hydration. laughing. Yeah, yeah. What about alcohol? Yes, drink that. Phases? No, no, not phases all the time. I go through phase. Yeah, yeah, I think both of us go through phases without. I'm entering a phase right now of not drinking it. Why? Because I'm just coming out of a phase where it got a little bit too much, wasn't feeling happy a lot of the time. Yeah. So, not doing it anymore. I think it's hard, you know, when you drink socially. You know, this is apart from people who have addiction problems, which I grew up in. I'm completely respectful and in awe of people who who get through that period and quit using their,

you know, their drugs, quote unquote. And, um, and, and for me, it's like, I've never had that addictive personality, but I really enjoy alcohol. And, and it's, it's, it's, I realize as I'm away from my kids a lot and I'm social and I'm out every night doing these press events or, you know, seeing friends, it's, it's really, really hard not to have a drink. And then I try to do it and I'm, I, you know, I've just end up wanting to go home early. And then when I do have a glass of wine, it makes me have more fun and go home a little later. So it's like, do I want to have a little bit more fun and get less sleep or do I want more sleep and less fun? And then I'm just like, always between those two places. It's a balance. And especially when we're recording this in the UK

in, you know, November, December time, when it's cold outside, it's dark all the time. And then there's so many events. Everyone's like, it's Christmas. We've got to go out. And like, after two weeks, you're like, oh my God, I've never felt worse. Yeah. It's bad. I'm trying to remember, like, the start of last year, because I have, there's Christmas New Year, then my birthday is early January. My birthday is early December, so I have like December, all the Christmas parties, Christmas, New Year's. Go ahead. But that's the same problem, I imagine. You get to the end of that and you're like, I cannot do this anymore. I can't believe you have your birthday after all that. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. It's two, two weeks after Christmas.

So like, it's like straight in. And obviously, yeah, New Year's is in between it. You're dead meat. I'm dead meat. And there becomes a point where I'm just like, I can never ever look at alcohol ever again. This is bad. And I'd turn up at stuff. And if I was like, why are we drinking?

I resent them for even asking. And then all of a sudden you miss it. And you're like, okay, I'm going to. Yeah. And then a few months later, you miss it. Have one and go, oh, man, this is so delicious. Yeah. It's so good.

And then like, and then you're like, I love you. Then you're in the dream. I love you so much. I'm not even straight in there. So the dream on the cycle is like when I start drinking again, then it's every so often. It's not that often. And every now and again, I'm having one a time. And I'm just really enjoying that martini or that gimlet or whatever the drink is.

And then eventually it just gets back round to who cares. I'm having like, if I go on tour, same as you with the day of working. If I'm doing a gig every night. Well, that's just really impossible. You just want to unwind after the gig. Have a lovely wine. You're not getting drunk every time, but you're having one, you're having two. It builds up.

Populums or bread. Poplums or bread. Poplums or bread. Bread, bread. Bread, great. It's got to be bread. Is there a particular sort of bread? Sourdough. Sourdough, every time.

Salted butter. Amazing. Is there a place where you, get the best sourdough is there, but the, where in the world have you eaten the best sourdough you've ever had? I would probably say Zurich. Zurich? We've not had a shout out of Zurich sourdough before.

Recently. Yeah. Were you filming there? You working there? I was not. I was just on tour with Mona. And our kids, we took our daughters with us. Oh, that's nice.

Your daughters get on? Yeah. Yeah, they sure do. Her daughter's two years older than mine. But they're, they watched my daughter. Her daughter showed my daughter Mean Girls for the first time on that trip. Well, Mona and I were having a meeting, Zoom meeting. Her daughter showed your daughter?

Yeah. Was that weird for you? I was like, I don't know if she... You know what? Here's my code. Did your daughters know who was in the film when they started watching? She's just been wanting to watch it. She's just patient.

And it felt like it was fine. She gets things. And then if there's things she doesn't over her head and it doesn't matter. And if she has questions, she comes to me about it. we're honest. But I didn't think there was anything in there that she was going to be too confused by or scared by. You still getting that film quoted at you a lot? Yeah, all the time. And is that nice? Because I guess you've been in so many things now that, you know, there's things that keep coming back and things that don't. So is it just quite nice to have something just

still be in the zeitgeist? Yeah. It's also just really special because it was my first movie. And I was just like put a rain tower over me for my first shot ever on film. And it was like movie magic in it was surreal. The whole thing was surreal.

It's um, I'm never, I, you know, barely a day goes by where I'm not like, oh, fuck did I get here? It's just so cool and magical. My job is still so insane at times. I get, I get, like crazy opportunities. And I feel like they're all safe because it's within these parameters of make-believe. So I can really explore myself so well.

I'm in front of people, like publicly explore my own spirituality, sexuality, sexuality. Like, you know, explore meaning necessarily not physical, but like my ideas and thoughts on things. But, you know, as I walk through other people's shoes, it's fascinating. Do you know when you're making a project that it's going to be one of those things that people are quoting back to you years later? I don't know. Always a surprise. It's always a surprise. Especially because the landscape changes so quickly.

Like something's trendy and then all of a sudden it's not like rom-coms or they thought they were back, but they're kind of not really. And, you know, you just like, I never expected letters to Juliet to be something that people are like, I loved letters. I just watched it. It's more like Jennifer's Body and Mean Girls and Mamma Mia. those we know people saw in droves. I mean, not Jennifer's body, not in the box office, but, you know, it's a cult classic. It's a huge cold hit.

Yeah. And it's just, you know, I just had so much fun, I guess the point is anything that hits is it just a blessing. And anytime someone stops me to say something, you know, how a film has affected them or to quote me, it's a celebration. It's not a pain in the ass. Do you have anything that you're like, that should have hit? That should have been the thing.

I thought Jennifer's body should have hit because it was really so well written and directed. And Megan and I, we were really incredible together in that. We had such an amazing chemistry. It should have hit, the music, everything about it. But they marketed it in a way that didn't help us at all. That's so funny. I'm sure I can think of 17 different things that should have hit.

and didn't, but, you know, I wasn't surprised that dear John hit. I mean, that was the best-selling book. I'd be surprised if the housemaid doesn't hit. But those are just, that's IP that's just so popular. Yeah. It's just the landscape changes all the time. You never know. You just never fucking know. And that's why it's always about the journey for me.

I mean, listen, the press stuff can get relentless, of course. And it's not natural to have to talk about something so often and, like, repeat yourself so. much. And try and keep the light behind the eyes when you're talking about it. Yeah. But, but, you know, I am good at it and, but it takes a lot out of me. But it's more about like what happened last year in Budapest and shooting it. It's just like, it's always about the journey. Never about the end result for me as an actor. And I don't, it hasn't have to be about the end result for me because I'm not cutting it together. Yeah. And then when it, when it,

when it cuts together really nicely and you like your performance, when. Yeah. Like this, the testament of Anne Lee. The moon clothed by the sun, the moon under her feet. Under. Her feet. Yeah. Under. My son used to run around the house saying, well, I made him.

I taught him this, but I was learning the accent, the Mancunian accent for like a year. And he was like, this accent is very fork in art. And it was just really funny. He didn't know what he was saying about it. Yeah, of course. Yeah. He's not even saying the word because he's putting the accent. I don't know if I'm doing it right.

It's more Liverpool. That's more Liverpool, that. So you're ready for your next role. You can be a Scousa. Scouser. So let's get into your dream meal proper. Your dream starter. A kale salad, chopped kale salad, Tuscan,

finely chopped, long ways, like spaghetti noodles, gently massaged with an extra virgin olive oil. and shredded parmesan cheese. Simple. Delicious. Simple, delicious. I love the level of detail. And you didn't ask me what my pub snack was.

No, James. Ask Amanda what a pub snack is. Sorry, I know I always ask that. And I skipped it for you and I shouldn't have. What's your pub snack? Cast of LaTrona olives. Pitted. Yes.

Lovely. Would you like those at what point in the middle? Before the appetizer. Yeah. With your water and your bread, you'd like the olives there. Sourdough bread, the salted butter and the Castle Petrono olives. What's so wonderful about these olives in particular? They're so salty and rich and not bitter like Kalamata olives are.

They have the most perfect texture and they are just like a, Like, as delicious to me as meat used to be. Oh, okay. As like a hot dog used to be. Yeah. They do, I think I'm thinking of the right ones. They do almost have like a meaty texture. Yeah, they're like almost round.

Yeah, yeah. They're green, like bright green. Nice. How long have you not had meat for? I think I had meat the other night. Oh, sorry. I thought you were saying. Yeah, I thought the same thing.

No, I did. I don't, I don't prefer. I don't eat it very often. When I say what I eat, I don't eat fish. at all. I haven't since 2021. And I don't really eat beef. I had the other night

had something that was, I don't know what it was. Well, let's try and work it out. It was delicious. What was it? Where were you? I was in L.A. Okay, narrowed it now. It was a cocktail party where they had hors d'oeuvres,

which I hate. I just want a plate full of stuff. Oh, you want all them. Yeah. I just, I can't. It's also, you're always in conversation. Would you like, no, no, no, thank you? Oh, no, no, thank you.

Oh, no, no, no, thank you. Oh, yeah, sure, I'll have one. Oh, can I have two? Okay. And it just breaks up your conversation. It's not, I don't like it. But it was something, there was meat in it, and I was not expecting it. And I was like, oh.

And so I grew up just obsessed with hot dogs and sausage. So I'm a pork kid. And I really, really don't, really don't eat kind of that kind of. me, I only eat chicken. But you're a pork kid? But I came from a pork background where we ate it. And, you know, I'm in the process of trying to figure out how I'm going to secure a pig for our farm. And it just really just doesn't.

I do have a lot of chickens at the farm and I eat chicken. But for some reason, I can't really wrap my head around having a pig and then eating pig. Mm-hmm. That's interesting because you've got a farm. I do. Didn't know you had a farm? Yeah. It's exciting. We haven't had many guests on who have a farm. Really? Yeah.

Like mostly rescue animals from like they're all, it's what it's called a sanctuary. And I actually just got a 501c3. Like it's now a tax deductible charity because they're expensive because there's a lot of medical bills and voices constant because they're horses and. goats and, you know, they're just lopsided, one-eyed animals. Yeah. So you've got to look after them a lot. You need a lot of, and goat. And goat medicine is different to horse medicine.

Well, the vets come to you, and it's a whole other thing. The vet, the x-rays happen at home. The ferrier comes to do all the horses, but at different times, because the donkey needs a different kind of shoe, or the needs a different kind of trimming, is the horse needs shoes, and certain horses don't need shoes, and certain ponies. My pony is just, like, running around. You know, we've got like just a bunch of diseases that they have, you know, not terminal, but they're just, you know, some of them are just ancient. And every time I leave, I don't know if I'll see them when I come home.

Lots of just accidents happen on the farm on wood to some of the, you know, just the raccoons were trying to get into the ducks the other day. You have raccoons on the farm? Yeah, but they're not ours. They're not like ill raccoons. I have as pets, but she can't do that. Have to have a permit for it. I'm not going to go looking for a wild animal to domesticate it. Yeah.

That's fucked up. But if one were injured. Sure. Yeah. You could look off it. I'd make it sleep in my bed for sure. Yeah. I still want to bring some of my animals inside the house,

but the only animals that I think could fit are the goats and the chickens, and they shit everywhere all the time. Yeah. Can't stop them. Unstoppable. Your dream main course. Okay. No judgment.

It's going to be a very, very fresh cut and toasted plain bagel. Zabars, if we're getting specific. You're going to have a medium amount of cream cheese on that plain whipped. Sometimes it's fine. And then there's going to be some sliced, really deliciously sliced. avocado separately. And I mean, do I have to add something else? No, you don't have to? This is your dream meal. And why were you worried about us judging you?

What do you say no judgment before you said? No meals. Like, I mean, it's not like a dinner meal, it's more of like a breakfast meal. Is that how you prefer to eat like sort of more snack more snacky bits, more sort of breakfasty food instead of like a big? My favorite thing is a buffet. Mm-hmm. Or like a Mediterranean platter. Nice. A vegetarian Mediterranean platter because they've got so many tips. The more dips, the more condiments, the better.

I can't help myself. I mean, I guess if we're going to add something to that plate, it would be like applesauce. No, I might... But like homemade. That feels like a crazy addition to the bagel plate, but apple sauce with the avocado and the cream cheese and the bagel? Yeah.

That's interesting. It was unexpected. Bit of zing. Bit of zing. Thank you. I love applesauce. I love apples any which way. Apple sauce feels like, you know, you get that on a farm. Yeah.

We don't have apple tree. We have two like really, really, really, like young adolescent apple trees. And I don't know when they're going to start, you know, growing us at my own apples. But we live upstate, you know, so it's Hudson Valley apples are just the best ones. You know what ugly apples taste better? Is that true? Yes. Because they have to.

A good title for a film. Ugly apples taste better. Because they're ugly, so they have to have. They have to show off, right? I saw where your head went right away. Okay. All these pretty apples, they don't have to taste good. People are going to eat them anyway, right?

Yeah, they're going to be given to the princess. Yeah. And they're going to be poison. Yeah. I don't know why princesses are just deleting apples at this point. I don't think they are. I don't think it's on trend right now. No.

No, they're all eating Ozambic. Yeah. Sorry. It's going to be a great new Disney film. Yeah, yeah. Where did you say this bagel was from? Zabars. Where's that again?

It's in New York City. It's in New York. Very fancy deli. Best bagels in New York? I think a lot of people would disagree with me. But they're just right up the street from my apartment. So when I'm in the city, I'll get my coffee, my bagel at Zabars. Oh, great.

Yeah, I feel like I've been there. I'm sure you have. Upper West Side. I think someone took me there. Yeah. Orange writing. It's doubt to me. It's a market too, next door to the deli.

There's an actual home market. Right, yes. That's where I get my olives. That's where I get my shredded parmesan. Sometimes, you know, I was doing a play, interested, or no? You like whiskey? Yeah. I was doing this play.

I like that you asked if you were interested before you decided what you were going to tell us about. I didn't want an anecdote from it. It's not even, wow, I really set it up. Basically, instead of eating dinner, I would have like a big lunch before. for my nighttime show when I was off Broadway in New York 10 years ago. And I would go home and have, I would pour Jameson with the good of Jameson. What's the friend of Jameson that's better? It's like the higher, it's a more.

Is it like, it's still called Jameson, but there's like an extra thing on it. An extra Y. An extra Y. An extra Y. It's Jameson. Yeah, yeah. And I would pour the Jameson. And then I would just take the sweet and dry remove and go to like kind of make my own fake perfect Manhattan.

because I'd love to drink. And I'd put three Luxardo cherries in it and then pour a little bit of the Luxardo cherry juice. Oh, wow. So it was super sweet. And then I would take a block of manchego cheese on a plate. I'd cut it in half. And I'd thinly slice the manchago block

until it was completely done. And I would eat the whole thing. And each one was about slicing it very thinly. And I'd be watching TV drinking my Manhattan. And as soon as I was done, I would go to bed. That shape I've ever been in. What a great night, that sounds like. Every night.

Every night. I miss it. Yeah, yeah. I got the feeling it was like happy times for you. Would you be living in there? Now I just would never eat anything that late at night. Yeah, it's always a bit that I think, you know, it happened to me at some point in life as well, whereas I can't be eating that late.

Because you wake up really feeling like shit. Yeah, especially a block of cheese, you know? Well, it was half a block. And the Manchego cheeses aren't that big. Yes. You're like, I would get like the thinner one, and I would cut it. But it was, yeah, it was a lot of cheese.

It was a lot of cheese. My cholesterol is not great. I stopped eating so much cheese because it was giving me eczema. And I think my body is very greekful. Your dream side dish? You know, like sauteed apples. Lovely. The apples are clearly at the forefront of the brain at the moment.

I love Bormers. When I lived here, Magners and Bormers, really? I lived for that. I lived for a pint of that because it felt like I was really, part of the pub culture because I had a yellow drink in the glass. With ice in it as well? Did you get it with ice in it? No, no, no. No. People get it, people, when they're in pubs, they pour it into a glass of ice. No, they don't. No, they don't. Not when I lived

here. No, they don't. I hate to pull rank here, but I have been here for quite a long time. No, they don't, Ed. Well, okay. No, they don't. Back in the day when I was living here, yes. Nobody ever offered me ice. And if I, if they had, I wouldn't take it. Yeah. Straight from the bottle. Also, it's you, you, you, um, it passes through you quicker. Warm alcohol or room temperature is better for you. Oh, really? Because you just want to out the system as quickly as possible.

You, you get looser, faster. Okay. So. No eyes please. I want to get loose quick. You're like, I need to get drunk and I need to get drunk now. Yeah. And if you, I heard if you use a straw, you get drunk a quicker. because then it goes under the tongue and it absorbs quickly into your system.

Does it, is the under the tongue thing true? Because I do it with everything, every supplement I take. It's all like mushroom and tinctures and CBD. Is that true? Apparently, because it's more like spongy underneath the tongue. So it just everything, I mean, I've run out of fact here. I'm curious to see what would happen. If we each took like a swig of whiskey and kept it under our tongues.

Yeah. And if, you know, you would have to, like, kind of count down how long it took you to feel a little fuzzy. I don't know to see it. Yeah. It's difficult to judge, I guess, because what's, how do we know how fuzzy each other are feeling, you know? You can't. You can say, I'm feeling fuzzy now. But they aren't we holding the whiskey under our time.

Yeah. Yeah, but maybe. You can probably do that. You're trained acting. Yeah. But you can be like, because if it's under your tongue, is it. it faster to keep it under your tongue or faster to swallow it? Good question. How absorbent is it? If we keep it there, is it just going to...

Or is it still faster if we, like, suck it down? Like, you drink it. Yeah. I feel like still drinking it would be... I don't know. It's faster to get into your bloodstream here. That's like, you know what I mean? You go via the, you go via under the tongue and then swallow it. I think you're getting double whammy then. Double whammy. You're getting whiskey. No, you're not doing that. You're not doing that. I'm not putting the whiskey into my time. That's how I know I've got a problem. We used to do straw pedos quite a lot. Do you remember straw pedos?

Where you get like a bottle of beer or something and put a straw in it, then bend the straw over. So you've still got the air going through the straw into the bottle, and then when you neck it back, you basically can drink a bottle of beer in two sips. But for what purpose? Getting loose quick. Okay.

I feel like you're judging me now, Amanda, but you're the one who's just said we should all put whiskey under our tongue and see it gets fuzzy first. Yeah, but that's like a proper, like... This is an experiment. This was science-based. Oh, yeah, yeah. It was just curious about how the body works.

Yours is just like... Bad lifestyle. I think we've interviewed enough actors now for you to know that's not going to fly. Go in. Me and my friends used to do this to get shit face quicker. They're going to look at you like, that doesn't sound very healthy. It's like telling me that you did Whippets. Yes.

I did do Whippets, but they weren't... Whippets is the like the squirty cream. gas, right? It's gas, yeah, I don't know how do you get it. Nitrous oxide. Nitrous oxide, yeah, yeah, yeah, we did whip it. They offer that at the dermatologist. What?

Yeah. They offer it at the dentist, but they offer it at the dermatologist as well. And I'm like, every time I go, she's like, do you want to try? And I was like, I'm driving. I don't know. Steve Martin's character in Little Shop of Horvitz. Yeah, yeah, that's true. Oh, God, the best.

Yeah, so good. The best. If someone said to you, you are allowed to retrospectively, retroactively, give someone an Oscar who didn't win it, didn't even get nominated maybe, but you think that's one of the best performances of all time, and how did it not get recognized? At all time. It doesn't have to be your answer forever.

Don't think people are going to hold you to this. I just think that the Leonardo Caprio and Claire Dane's should have at least got nominated for Roman Juliet. But I say that as it was my favorite. movie growing up. It's like why I became an actor. Like one of the reasons I was just, I really felt myself through that movie, even though I was so young. And I was, I was obsessed in a way, like not necessarily with either one of them, but just with the story and how they, how fucking grounded it was. Like, I really understood that I was watching something very special. I mean, it's, it's very Baz Luhrman. It's a spectacle, but it was, and it was fast-paced, and I don't

know if it would have been my favorite movie now as a 40, almost 40 year old, but it's certainly like, I think they were, still, I just think they were unbelievably beautiful together. And to have that impact on a nine-year-old, 10-year-old, just, I don't know, sorry, I was, I was 10, 96, 96 came out. That should be an Oscar's best couple. Best on-screen couple. Yeah. The Oscar, I mean, listen, the Oscars are all like, it's a tricky, tricky business.

Yeah, it's obviously a bunch of bullshit. But like, it's fun to ask us a question. Like any awards, it's a bunch of bullshit because it's always a group of people, right? Yeah, yeah. Also, the Oscars that the campaigning and stuff just makes me think, oh, it's just... That's what it makes you feel like. But in order to get to campaign, you have to... You have to blow some people's minds.

Or you have to have something unique. And I feel like I am 100... I'm 100% behind my campaign with Mona. It is weird. it does feel wrong, but every time I get in a room with critics or voters, I have real conversations as humans right off the bat. So it feels like it gets, like the first time I sat down with the critics during this like, like beginning of the campaign, I was like, so how many of these have you gone to this week? Did you go because you like the movie or did you go because

you were hungry? Like, what is it? And I just get down to business because like I like to keep the elephant out of the room because we're all here because you're like, like, we're like, We need something from each other. And that feels unnatural and kind of weird. But there's always, we're all human beings. So there's always a way to relate. And then, you know, you make it less icky. But at the end of the day, it's better to get a nomination than not to.

So I have to show up. And I'm proud of my work. Yeah. Thank God. Your dream drink. A lot of shoutouts for a lot of different drinks so far. Yeah. So this could be tough competition.

I would have a I think in the beginning of the night you start out with liquor because liquor before beer you're in the clear of course I would start out with a glass of Middleton no ice

and throughout the night I would have one Manhattan during dinner perfect Manhattan one cherry two cherries not the one you made yourself with the shavings of Manchaker you'd get like a bartender to

or you didn't put the cheese inside the Manhattan no no no no you drink with the with the with the shavings of manchaker Manchaygo, I didn't think you put the cheese inside it, although I want to try that. No, no, no, the Manhattan's coming with, between the kale. Yes. I mean, it's right, the kale, chopped kale and the bagel. But do you want, you know, the one you made yourself, or do you want, like, a professional

bartender? Oh, I would rather have a professional bartender. In fact, in fact, I've been having a lot of really great perfect Manhattan's of late. And then after, I would probably switch to a really good natural Hungarian or Austrian in wine. Nice. And that would be three drinks, and I'd be plenty hammered.

And then do you want to know what my dessert is? Yeah, we can move straight onto it if you want. Or why? Is there something else? What's between the main course and dessert? We'll be just talking about the drinks for a bit, and then I'd move us on to dessert. But if you want to move on to dessert straight away.

We have some natural banter or something. You're the guest. We could move on to the dessert if you would like to. I don't mind. What are your favorite desserts? Oh, too many. This guy's obsessed. Okay, okay, sorry.

So if you, if you, last day on earth and they were like chocolatey chocolate, chocolate, chocolate, chocolate, chocolate thing, or just sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet. You're more sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet. Well, I guess, but like, I, I mean, it's hard. I think consistently my favorite desserts tend to be things that are actually a bit sweet and salty and have a bit of both. the things I know is that always become my favourites and that I go for. But then also yeah, I guess I'd go more on the

sweet side just for the fact that every time there's some sort of French toast anywhere if it's done really well, that usually ends up being my favourite thing I've had. That's so American French toast. I guess I'm born in the wrong country. Is it big here?

Not as big. It's definitely is more of a French toast as more. I mean, I feel like it should be French, but like, yeah, I think it does feel more American. Well, is it a version of Pampardou? Is that fair to say? Which I think is a French dish, which is like the stale bread

and then they put it in egg and then fry it. So yeah, it's sort of like come from that, I think. Love it. This guy always keeps surprising me. But with like the syrup and things like that and that feels very American to me. Yeah.

Depends on the syrup, but yeah. Yeah. Wait, so for both of you, love hearts or bounty? I'd rather have a bounty than the love hearts. That's very easy for me. Yeah, I think it's bounty for me as well, because I'm more of a chocolate guy.

Bounty wouldn't be my go-to chocolate bar, but the love hearts just a bit chalky, and I find the messages inane. Okay, pepper, sorry, what are those pig, Percy Pig? Or like, M&Ms. Percy Pig. Eminemes, every time. Every time.

Percy Bigger, every time. Peanut butter Eminemes for me. Oh, didn't say peanut butter Eminemes. Yeah. Didn't say peanut butter Eminemes. I didn't say that. Said M&Ms. Did you mean original, original flavor?

Like basic. All right. I'd still go with those, even though sometimes with American chocolate, and I find this with M&Ms, I feel like they smell like urine. Like Hershey's and M&Ms, to me, smell like sort of urea. Urea? Yeah. That's specific. Yeah, so who smells like a compound of urine to me?

I love the country, though, and I'd love to get a visa. Cinnamon buns? Or scones? I'd probably rather have a cinnamon bun. I think it's cinnamon bun. Yeah, yeah. Most of the time. Scones can, for me,

and a little bit like, with jam and cream and all of that, delicious, but you didn't mention that and I'm learning that if you didn't mention it, it's not part of the choice. Oh, yeah.

No, you're right. Yeah. Yeah. So I'm going to have to go with cinnamon buns on this occasion. Thank you very much, Amanda. Okay. Sourdough bread with salted butter.

Mm-hmm. Or plain bagel with cream cheese. I'd go for the plain bagel with cream cheese. Oh, okay. I'd go sourdough with salted butter. because I'm all about the salted butter. Yeah, I get it. This is what I'm feeling at the minute.

Also, you said it was toasted earlier, the bagel. It's toasted, absolutely still toasted. So I think the toasted bagel with the cream cheese is what I'm currently in the mood. It's just the best. It's what I had. Like, every night for probably a year when I was in middle school, I would eat that before bed. And I was so free. It felt like it wasn't a burden.

Like, if I went to bed now after having a bagel, I'd just be miserable. But in the moment of eating the bagel, you'd feel incredible, I bet. No, the guilt sets in probably like three bites. Like last night I had sourdough with salted butter at midnight. And I was like, oh, it's so good. So it's the guilt, isn't it, is the problem. I have this a lot.

And I'd think if I didn't feel this guilt, which is who knows where that's come from, a whole bunch of different things, then I would just be loving this. It's not making me feel physically bad, really. It's just tastes really nice. It's great. That's all.

It's the guilt that you've acquired as you've got older. I know. And it's information though as well. The guilt is based on information. Like certain things you eat can like ruin your blood pressure for, I mean, like it can alter your blood pressure so you don't sleep as well. And you, and your body is trying to digest these certain things.

And it's better to have your body digest. this before bed. Like cherries, apparently, that's the thing. The scientifically proven. God knows where I read it, probably the Atlantic. But it's apparently like there are a few things that you can eat before bed that are going to benefit you. And if they're not that, then you might as well go to hell and just accept that cancer is coming to you. You know what I mean? So what is your drink dessert? Rice pudding. Rice pudding? Yeah.

Rice pudding, for sure. Is that something you ate growing up, a lot of rice pudding? Yeah. It's so good when it's homemade. Oh, it's just got the texture and the pudding. I love vanilla pudding. I'm from this small, like, it's not a small town. It's a pretty big town in Pennsylvania, but like small house, you know, duplex, whatever.

And, you know, we just had a lot of canned food and powdered food. You know, my parents, like tuna fish, like they would make stuff, you know, that was frozen. But they had no time to cook. We didn't have fresh food. And it's not because we couldn't afford it, but it was because we didn't care to go after it. And so I would just, everything's just bottled, canned and powdered and frozen. And you would just, like, throw the powder in and put the milk in and mix it and it would become, it would become a dessert.

And then you would just pour cereal in it or whatever. And rice pudding was so, like, exotic at one point. And then I realized that they sold them in those little snack pack things. Yeah. And I ate the shit out of that as a kid. And do you want one of the snack packs as your dream dessert? No, we would have to be homemade. My standards have leveled up a bit.

Do you want it warm or cold, I think? It's a big question with rice pudding. Yeah, I would completely agree with you. It's so much more comforting and like it just, even though you would have thought if it was warmer it would be more comforting. But to me, cold rice pudding, sometimes I get rice pudding when I order. Turkish food and they just throw in a rice pudding. Cold rice pudding with cinnamon on the top.

Oh, what's in? I know. So good. It's so good. It's so good. I remember somebody gifted me frozen rice pudding from this really famous rice pudding place and like probably somewhere in the middle of America. And I remember just, I don't know.

I had like an issue like defrosting them and throwing them. And so I ended up putting them in the microwave and then like the plastic bowl kind of like frivoled and it ruined. It was a bad moment. It's heartbreaking. It was heartbreaking. We were looking forward to the rice pudding

and then you had a problem on your hands. It was awful. Yeah. You realize microwaves are, can be an angel or a devil. Yeah. And do you want cinnamon on top of this particular ice cream? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I put cinnamon in my coffee, my ice coffee because I don't do milk anymore because it causes eczema like I mentioned earlier. they're laughing at me and again we can hear people on the team laughing laughing through the wall

I wasn't expecting to hear them laughing when you were talking about having asthma though to be honest they might just be giggling about something else we often hear this sometimes when people's been their

team along with them and they'll be in the other room and there'll be laughs this is the most it's been at unexpected points I'd say but I'm like

that's an interesting and really laughing at you have an expert. Yeah. They think it's funny. Yeah. Well, it's not funny. I love milk. I love milk.

I love a cappuccino more than your average guy. And I can't drink them anymore. No. I did have one yesterday. Oh, well, there you go. Okay. This is like the meat thing again. You've whispered into a microphone.

Yeah. I think you're going to be rumbled on that scene. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Before I read, Jimenez. menu back to you is that because you're quite detailed on this and you had the pub snacks. Is there anything else that you want on the menu before I move on? I'm full. I don't want to be.

You're full? I'm full. It's quite a light menu. Well, I think if you're ending on rice pudding as well. It's pretty impressive. It's full. It's dense. There's a lot of bread. You got carbs. You got carbs flying around. Carbs and sugar. Yeah. That's why it's a dream.

You would like still water. You would like sourdough from Zurich with salted butter and pitted. Castellar. I don't know I pronounce the honest. Yep. Starter. You would like

Tuscan chopped kale salad gently massage with extra virgin olive oil Long ways. Long ways. Main course. Very fresh plain bagel from Zabars.

Zabars. Zabars. Cut and toasted with a medium amount of cream cheese and sliced avocado and some homemade apple sauce. Side dish,

sauteed apples. Drink glass of Middleton whiskey, no ice early on, a perfect Manhattan and with one to two cherries later, and a natural Hungarian or Australian or Austrian wine. And then for dessert,

you would like homemade rice pudding, cold with cinnamon. Yeah. How do you feel about that? I love it. I actually, you know, it would be funny. I'm turning 40 and I'm having like a little party upstate with some of my local friends. And it's at a roller skating rink.

And they're like doing all the food. They're going to do like empanadas and pizza and shit. And you know what? It should just be that. It's your birthday. It's your birthday. I should switch things up. I have like a minute to do it.

Yeah. Week to prep. Biggles for everybody. Do you think they would be sad? No. It's your birthday. I think, and even if they were, I think they'd have to slap a smile on because it's your party. Shit.

I have to order the cupcakes. Surely someone out there can deal with that. I don't want to forget that. There's too much on my plate. Literally. Sorry. What a perfect way to end. You need to go and order the cupcakes.

So thank you very much for coming to the dream restaurant, Amanda. Thank you, Amanda. Thanks for having me. Wouldn't that be so nice if you then offered it up? It would be nice, yeah. But we don't know what people are going to say, so it would be insane if we managed to pull that together in the last second. But that's the challenge, isn't it?

That is a huge challenge. You would have a chef out there listening to everything. Yeah. Or 3D. 3D printer. A 3D printer. We 3D print the meal. Can you do that?

Well, when it's things like Zabars, it'd be difficult for us to run off to Zaybars. But you can get as close as you want. And that's another added, like, challenge. Yeah, yeah, that would be an added challenge. Well, Ben, can you deal with that for the next episode? Because we're obviously doing the chat, so we can't be involved. You should have a caricature artist. Who draws the meal?

And who draws the meal? That's actually a really good idea. While you, because you know what it takes, so I'm having a caricature artist at my birthday party. Gosh, yes. And he says there's certain ones. He's like, I can do this much in one hour. If you want it more detailed, I can only do two for an hour. So, like, apparently it takes him 10 minutes to draw it.

So if you have 20 minutes to draw everything, it would be cool to give somebody something to leave with. Because I'm leaving empty-handed. You wanted to leave with something? I didn't want to leave with something, but I just thought about it. Yeah, it would be nice to leave for something, definitely. You can keep that mug. Yeah. Yeah, take the coaster's yours.

Yeah, we've got, I mean... I'll take that. Yeah, take that plate. Are you guys, comedians? Yes, we are, yes. If you have to ask at the end of the episode, then I think it's probably not. Yeah, that's real bad.

You make me laugh, you're funny. Yeah, right at the end. But like, still. I'll go on towards you too. There we are, James. Lovely menu. Lovely menu. And at the end, realized we were comedians.

Yes. You know, that's a, that was a real kicking the plums at the end there. Kicking the plums. And then the cameras went off and Benito kicked us in our plums. He did. He always does that. Yeah, yeah. He goes to remember.

I love that because I love mean girls. Thank you so much to Amanda for coming on the podcast. And not saying Calteen bars. I'm not saying Calteen bars, of course. Thank you, Amanda, for the. that. Don't forget to go and see the Testament of Anne Lee or the woman clothed by the sun with the moon under her feet in cinemas on the 20th of February. Don't forget to watch us on YouTube tomorrow this episode. This is on your computer cinema tomorrow.

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