Off Menu with Ed Gamble and James Acaster - Ayoade Bamgboye

Episode Date: April 29, 2026

‘SNL UK’ cast member and Edinburgh Comedy Awards Best Newcomer winner Ayoade Bamgboye is this week’s dream diner. Let’s just hope there aren’t any fecal clouds in the Dream Restaurant. Ayoad...e Bamgboye is on tour with her show ‘Swings and Roundabouts’. For dates and tickets go to berksnest.com/ayoade Ayoade stars in ‘Saturday Night Live UK’, Saturdays at 10pm on Sky One. Follow Ayoade on Instagram @ayoadezahrah Watch the video version of this episode on the Off Menu YouTube on Thu 30 Apr.Off Menu is now on YouTube: @offmenupodcastFollow Off Menu on Instagram and TikTok: @offmenuofficial.And go to our website www.offmenupodcast.co.uk for a list of restaurants recommended on the show.Off Menu is a comedy podcast hosted by Ed Gamble and James Acaster.Produced, recorded and edited by Ben Williams for Plosive.Video production by Ben Williams and Megan McCarthy for Plosive.Artwork by Paul Gilbey (photography and design). Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello, it's Ed Gamble here from the podcast that you're currently listening to. Huge news, guys. My brand new stand-up tour, Fresh Hell, is on sale now. Tickets are available at Edgambl.combe.com. Look at the full dates. I'm going all over the UK and a bit of Ireland. Come and see me in my brand new show, Fresh Hell, Edgambled.combele.com.com. Welcome to the off-menu podcast, toasting the pitterbreads of conversation, taking the knife of humour,
Starting point is 00:00:41 punching a little hole of chat into the pitterbread and releasing the steam of bad vibes. That's a gamble. My name is James Acaster together. We own a dream restaurant every single week. We invite a guest, asking a favourite ever start, a main course dessert, side dish and drink. Not in that order.
Starting point is 00:00:57 And this week our guest is Iowa Bayamboe. Iowa day is a wonderful comedian, James. Won the best newcomer award at the most recent Edinburgh Festival. That's a big deal, man. Everyone was talking about. I wasn't at the Edinburgh Fringe this year. No, no, no, no. But I heard so much about I-Wish.
Starting point is 00:01:14 Better vibe. Yes, okay. But I heard a lot about I-Wi-A-Show from everyone. We felt free and light, we were all saying. Some people were saying they felt free and light. Some of them. Yeah, we were dragged down by the anchor that was James A. Castor. Everyone was calling you the anchor.
Starting point is 00:01:29 Yeah. That's a good thing. Anchor. Keep everyone. Not if you want to swim. But everyone was saying that I want a show was absolutely brilliant. So, like, I'm very excited. I've only, we've only met once. I've only met our way only once
Starting point is 00:01:43 and it's one of the funniest conversations I've ever had so I'm looking forward to this episode. Yeah, what happened? Yeah, I think I got on her nerves quite quickly so I think it's going to be a really nice, nice to and fro. Great, that's good, that's good to know. I think I got on her nerves as well.
Starting point is 00:01:58 Yeah. Yeah, so this will be fun. Just going to be fun. Double trouble. Benito, have you met her before? Yes, did you get on her nerves? Yeah. I think God you're here then.
Starting point is 00:02:05 I find that hard to believe. Yeah. I what is going on tour With her show Swings and Roundabouts That is the award Winning show So absolutely
Starting point is 00:02:17 Right now Pause the podcast Get tickets for it Because it's going to settle out By the end of this sentence You'll got to go You gotta go These are hot cakes
Starting point is 00:02:25 These are hot cakes You got to You got it James is not pointing At his own butt When he says that He's talking about the tickets Just to be clear
Starting point is 00:02:32 Just if the listener Could always assume I'm not pointing at my own butt That'd be great Yeah Although even the stop clock It points at his own butt it's something but twice a day.
Starting point is 00:02:43 Yeah, one of those Mickey Mouse clocks. Yeah, yeah, can't help it. Tor Mickey, he's got no choice of the matter sometimes. If Iowade says a secret ingredients that we have pre-decided upon, she will be removed from the restaurant. We don't want to do that. No.
Starting point is 00:02:58 We're talking to her. But she might be grateful for it if we start to get on her nerves again. That's true. Yes. And this week, the secret ingredient is Biskof. Biskof. Now, this is going to be a very controversial one. It was suggested to us by a member of the audience at one of our live palladium shows.
Starting point is 00:03:15 Yep. And I don't think it went down very well on the night either. People love Biscoff, but what we do all agree on is it's insidious. It's everywhere. Absolutely everywhere. The market is oversaturated with Biscoff. Yes. Biscoff in everything. Yeah, Biscoff in absolutely everything.
Starting point is 00:03:31 Biscoff ice cream. Biscoff spread. Brownies. Biscoff. Biscoff brownies. Biscop sun cream. I wasn't even aware it was a biscuit for ages. Yeah. Lotus biscuits. The lotus biscuits.
Starting point is 00:03:43 People love them. But, you know, also a lot of people have had enough of them and don't want Biscoff being in absolutely everything. It's the salted caramel problem. It's the truffle problem. It's the pulled pork problem. Yeah. So I think it's fair enough secret ingredient.
Starting point is 00:03:58 Yeah. Because it's in everything. It's a bit of a risky one. Yeah, it is. It could backfire. Could happen. Could happen in the starter. Yes.
Starting point is 00:04:06 Who knows? What? You never know, man. It's in everything these days. Don't forget. This is out on YouTube tomorrow. If you're listening to this on the day it comes out, it will be available to watch in full
Starting point is 00:04:16 on the YouTube tomorrow and you can see all the times that James is definitely going to point at his own butt. Yeah, so pretty constant. Yeah. Oh boy! That's Mickey Mouse. Oh boy! This is the off-menu menu of I-O-Way-Bamboe. Welcome I-Wade to the dream restaurant.
Starting point is 00:04:41 Welcome Iowwane, Ban Boe, to the dream restaurant. We've been expecting you for some time. This is beautiful. Do that again. Welcome, I want a bad boy, to the dream restaurant, but I'm spending you for some time. Oh, that's lovely. First time, it's been requested a second time? Yeah, first time ever, someone's wanted him to do it again.
Starting point is 00:05:00 I really spat that second time. Yeah, because I wasn't expecting the volume. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because it was sort of that, there was a spectrum of volumes there that shocked me and excited me. I went in quite normal, and then James really beefed it, didn't we? Yeah, also normal, I guess. Yeah, also normal for him, I suppose. Because that was sort of passive aggressive in a way that I enjoyed as well.
Starting point is 00:05:22 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I do passive aggression quite well, I think, yeah. I prefer aggression. Yeah. That says a lot. Let's actually just fight. How you found Ed's, like, before the podcast, how did you find him? Like when you were chatting to him, was it nice?
Starting point is 00:05:36 I found him warm. Oh, that's nice. Yes, you smile with your eyes. Oh, good. Normally with Caucasian men, you know, it's a mixed bag. Yeah. You get people who, you know, you speak to them and it's like, I can't wait to never speak to you.
Starting point is 00:05:55 Again, but not with you. Oh, that's nice. That's lucky, because we've got to speak now for quite a long time, I'd say. I can't wait. Yeah. Imagine if you'd arrive and you've gone, they're not smiling with their eyes. Yes.
Starting point is 00:06:06 And now I've got to speak to them on camera. I would have had to abscond immediately. I've come in and then I would have rushed out. Yes. You'd be the first guest who's absconded. Yes No one's ever absconded We haven't had any absconders so far
Starting point is 00:06:21 No That's a fantastic track record We've had no shows But we've not had absconders No shows As in you were waiting for them And they didn't Yes
Starting point is 00:06:30 But they didn't tell you That they weren't coming No That's not possible No they told us they won't coming But like very late We've been here waiting And then they don't show up
Starting point is 00:06:38 Which feels like a no show to me Would you call that a no show? That's a no show That is I think that's an affront Yes We've had a few affronters But never an abscond
Starting point is 00:06:47 I would never ever do that to somebody. Thank you. Unless I hated them. Do you want to shout out a few people you hate before we start the podcast? Some of them are obviously a posthumous thing. But Henry Kissinger, I'm glad that you're dead. Is this a discameral? Which one?
Starting point is 00:07:04 This one. Yeah. That's the Kissinger Cam. Rory Stewart. I hate everything that you stand for. As well as that freakishly tall man you sit beside. Who else do I have in my thoughts? Joe Budden, I hate you.
Starting point is 00:07:25 Budden, not Biden. Budden not Biden. Biden, I mean, you can't hate somebody whose brain cells are. I mean, his brain is smooth. So there's nothing he can do about that. I'm censoring now. You're censoring now? The media training's kicked in now, has it?
Starting point is 00:07:42 Yes. Let's talk about food. Are you a foodie? So I'm not a foodie. I can't pretend to know the ins and outs. I don't get bogged down in the minutiae. But I love to eat. I think that makes you a foodie.
Starting point is 00:08:01 I think so. Well, I did Google, when I found out that I was coming here, I googled the definition of foodie. And I think there's some kind of like gastronomical knowledge that, you know, you go into the history, you go into like recipes, down to the sort of metric, like forensic knowledge. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:21 I don't have that. I mean, I love a sausage bean and cheese melt. Greg's inject that directly into my veins. I love, you know those noodles, the Carbonara ones, the Korean Carbonara noodles. Oh, yeah, which is pink. Oh, no, I don't know. Oh, Bulldack.
Starting point is 00:08:40 Yeah, yeah, yeah. The one with the spicy ones who got the chicken on the front is like breathing fire. Exactly. Exactly, but I love the pink one, which is like a spicy carbonyar. So there was this, there was a period that I ate that every day for about two months. How was that gastricly for you? Ah, I've not recovered. You're looking at me right now.
Starting point is 00:08:59 My stomach is growling in a bad way. But that's the kind of thing I eat. Yeah. So I'm, I'm flexible. Yeah. But I think those are things that a foodie would, maybe bristle at. But you say you would consider yourself an eater rather than a foodie? You get joy from food, but you don't.
Starting point is 00:09:17 Yeah, the problem now is that eater has some connotations. Really? Yeah, and eater is somebody who eats the pussy as well. I don't know. I'm not up to date with all the terms. Yeah. Often on this podcast, this happens when Ed and I, who are, he's 39.
Starting point is 00:09:37 Thank you. I'm 41. At time of recording. Yes. You guys look really great. Thank you so much. Thank you. But we are old men.
Starting point is 00:09:45 don't know what people are talking about anymore. So we get told by our more, by our younger, more in touch, in tune guests that what we've just said is we like to eat pussy. Yes. So if he's an eater, yeah. He, you want an eater is what is basically what you want.
Starting point is 00:10:02 Back in our day, we'd just say legend. Well, how would you say that? Who'd say legend? Yeah, we said that about everything, though. It's not even specific. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But we knew, we knew back in the day. Everyone's a legend.
Starting point is 00:10:17 That guy's a legend and you're like, that guy, he's a pussy. Oh, wow. This is going to be so much fun. Yeah, I think so. I think so. He is, yes. I'm an eater, I guess.
Starting point is 00:10:29 Yes, okay. Congratulations. Yes, thank you. Swings and roundabouts. Swings and roundabouts. Your new tour, it's very exciting. It's kind of crazy. I went to Edinburgh with this show,
Starting point is 00:10:41 and I just thought to myself, look, you put your best foot forward. And I started writing it, because I thought maybe I want to really give comedy a, like, I want to try. And so I quit my job. I was working at advertising as a strategist. And I said, I'm going to give it a year. And the year has actually gone considerably well.
Starting point is 00:11:03 You've got to say it's gone well. Yeah, it's gone considerably well. And a lot of, like, swings and roundabouts, like, inspired by my, like, pain. And my, I find it very difficult to exist. but it would not be prudent to to exit permanently. So I write to keep myself here. And swings and ride about us basically like all of those things in one place.
Starting point is 00:11:32 And people have been so gracious and kind. How long has it been now since you quit your job? A year and a half. Wow. Yeah. So you're going back to work soon? I was applying for a job. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:44 I was a plan for you. Because there's something, you know, with comedy, it's like you can't write, I don't know if you guys have this, but like, nothing comes from nothing. Like, I feel like, even with swings and roundabouts, a lot of it came from just like being in the office. Yeah. And listening to those, like, you know, there's like English idioms in terms of phrase that just like sort of move the day along. And it really, it was so, so useful for me to soak that up in situ. And I think doing comedy like full time, I'm like, what are my? looking at.
Starting point is 00:12:16 Sure. Where is this, where is it going to come from? Yeah. Like I need a lady called Helen. Emailing me talking about, it's just, we're circling back. Like, what are you talking about, lady? But it just, it gives you that, like, the stim. Yeah, I know what you mean.
Starting point is 00:12:34 You need to be in contact with the world outside of comedy to get that inspiration. Yes, exactly. I applied to a job at Waterstones. I was unfortunately, they didn't get I didn't get to interview stage and I told them that I won the prize at Edinburgh but I don't think it cut through
Starting point is 00:12:53 I don't think that's necessarily what they're looking for at Waterstones but somebody who is affable somebody who is you know tried and tested on stage I think it would be useful for sales but it didn't but they're not with books
Starting point is 00:13:07 I don't think they're looking for like it's not like they don't need when I go into Waterstones no one's coming up to me and going, so what sort of thing you're looking for? You look like, like, there's no banter in Waterstones, is there? I would bring, but I'd bring that. Yeah, but I don't think they want that, clearly.
Starting point is 00:13:21 I was telling them, you want it. But they said no we. Yeah. If James walked into Waterstones and you'd got the job, how are you selling a book to James? Are you going straight up to him? That's tough, because I would, I would have to, I think I would say, you know what,
Starting point is 00:13:35 I know you're James Acaster. Oh, right, okay. Great. So I would take him to the Kettering section. I see, Jim. James, I know your background. Yeah. One of my best friends, Katie Mulligan, she's from catering.
Starting point is 00:13:50 That's exciting. Yeah. Katie and Amanda, they're from catering. Yeah. So I will take you to catering section, and I'll show you A to Z. All the Catchering books. Of course. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:02 That's great. I'd love to buy a book about Karen. Yeah. Is there a catering section, didn't know? Yeah, 100%. As soon as he arrives, you make it. It would be made already. Just in case.
Starting point is 00:14:13 kiss in the in the in case of in kiss it is. Yeah. Yeah. And you'd be surprised because you're like, I didn't know there was a catering section here. That's good impression. I just tried it off the size. It's good.
Starting point is 00:14:27 I enjoyed that. Yeah. Well, I'd really appreciate that if I went into water. So I think they should be giving it. That's Waterstones lost. They didn't give you that job. I think so too.
Starting point is 00:14:35 Oh, it is. Absolutely. Although I don't have any catering facts. I should ask Katie about that. Yeah. What's a very, very random thing about Kettering? that people should know. Edmund Hillary's boots that you wore a Peverest,
Starting point is 00:14:47 first man of Pevereas, were made in Kerrins. That's pretty good. I thought you were going to say they're still in Kettering or they're in a museum or something. But did he survive the... Yeah. First person of Pevereast. Yeah, but first person down as well.
Starting point is 00:15:00 Yeah. Yeah. So he didn't get stuck up there. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I wonder why they've made there. There used to be a lot of shoe manufacturers around... Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:10 Kinky Boots, obviously, was set in Northampton. I don't know. And yeah. That's very good. Yeah. Do you like shoes? Not as much as I should, given my background. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:22 I should love them more. More into the history of where you're from. Yeah, by the time I was born, you know, Fatcher had absolutely gutted. All of Northamche and all the, like, all the industry kind of gone. So like, that's insane. Imagine what shoes would have come out of capturing.
Starting point is 00:15:40 Yeah. Yeah. If things didn't pan out the way they did. did. Yeah. They would have making Louboutons
Starting point is 00:15:46 up there. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Nike can start and Catherine. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:15:52 Exactly. Yeah. We'll start with still a sparkling water. Do you have a preference? I'll have to be
Starting point is 00:15:58 still because of my stomach issues. Is this Pots Bulldack? Pulse Bulldack. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:05 Posed Bulldack. Has to be still. Just less, because I think the bubbles fill me up a little bit more. So I just
Starting point is 00:16:11 want to keep enough space. Yeah. So still water is okay. but from the bottle. It has to be. Tap water is,
Starting point is 00:16:18 it's not, it's not appropriate. Why? Why is it not appropriate? So I, I, I watched a parliamentary debate about the waterways,
Starting point is 00:16:27 the British waterways and what they're dumping in there. I don't know any filter that could get this stuff out of my water. What sort of stuff are they putting in there? Sewage.
Starting point is 00:16:39 Yeah. Pooh. Pooh. Ophoo. Oh. Oh. We can't risk it, boys. No.
Starting point is 00:16:46 We can't. I do, I do risk it. All the time. You can't? But I don't know whether that's just, I'm thinking, God, you deserve to drink shit. We need to unpack that. No, but like, everyone else,
Starting point is 00:17:01 if other people are drinking it, who am I to say, oh, I'm Ed Gamble, I don't drink shit. Yeah. Come on. But you guys are, you guys are more, you guys are every, I love this, you're approachable.
Starting point is 00:17:12 Yes. You have this sort of, you could be anybody off the street. Yes. Thank you. We meant as a compliment. We blend it. Yeah. And you're so, you, you, there's a warmth to, I mean, to you, but you have, yours is more, I wouldn't say prickly, but I would say it's this.
Starting point is 00:17:36 Yes. What's that? So for the list, this means, spreading your hands up. Okay, because they can't see. Yes. Oh, I forgot. Some people can see. Some people can see.
Starting point is 00:17:45 Right. With the cameras. Okay, that's true. They actually can't see. That's true. James, James is more... Take all the time you need.
Starting point is 00:17:57 Yes, I believe in a pregnant pause. James is more dry. Yes. Yes, he's dry. Sardonic. Sardonic, that is the word. Wow. Yes.
Starting point is 00:18:10 But you go, but I see why your British treasures, both of you. That's the first time we've been called British treasures before. Absolutely. I mean, a lot of people would disagree. Obviously, no one listened to this podcast. They all say, we're definitely treasures. They listen deliberately. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:25 But when we went on, I love whatever else got going on. Saturday kitchen, everyone hated us. Yeah. That happened just before Christmas. What was the sort of way of... It was mainly eggs behavior. It was honest. You'll be amazed to hear it wasn't my behaviour at all.
Starting point is 00:18:40 I'm so sure. This shit drinker. They do a vote thing where the audience vote for which dish they want cooked and we both brought in dishes that we wanted to be cooked for us. And James lost the vote, and he reacted by smashing up the set. There was a model of a polar bear, and he punched it in the face, and he shook the Christmas tree around, and he flipped the wreath off the table. Right.
Starting point is 00:18:59 And screamed at the top of his voice on live television. Right. And we thought it was really funny. And then I opened my Instagram and found out it wasn't funny at all. Yeah. There are 232 complaints made to the BBC. Saying I should never be allowed of BBC anymore. I think BBC, please, forgive you.
Starting point is 00:19:22 BBC forgive James. I think the BBC loved it, actually. I hope so. I hope they're in my corner, the Bee, but actually haven't heard from them off the back of it. No. Oh, mate. I think the, I mean, this could set people off again
Starting point is 00:19:34 because I think the general, the understanding that the public had was that if that many complaints get made, the BBC have to do a formal investigation. That is what was going around in, like, some newspapers. Yeah. Yeah. online newspapers.
Starting point is 00:19:47 Yeah. But like, so now there has to be a formal investigation as there's been as many complaints. And obviously there wasn't one because the BBC aren't wasting their time and resources. Yeah. Formerly investigating what was clearly in the room a joke.
Starting point is 00:20:00 Yeah. And everyone was just happening to laugh. Well, there's nothing to investigate. It's all there, isn't it? The polar bear was not a real polar bear. It doesn't matter that I punched it in the face. You would not punch a real polar bear in the face. We would never do it.
Starting point is 00:20:11 So that, and I think that's enough. You heard it here first. Yeah. You would not hurt a polar bear. Never, ever. Very simple. But Edd wound people up as well, because he criticised Matt Tebitt and said that he hosted the show like a prison warden. Yes, I did say that Matt Tebitt, the host, hosted the show like a prison warden.
Starting point is 00:20:27 Because you've been media trained recently. The listeners don't know this, but you've had media training. Yes. So what would you say about a comment like that being made on live TV? A comment like that is too, it's too aggressive. Yes. Right? And likening somebody's behavior to a prison warden is to say that they're sort of,
Starting point is 00:20:45 kind of fascist, murderous people. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you can't do that. No. But I did it, and you know what? It made Matt Tebbot laugh. He loved it.
Starting point is 00:20:56 How was the laugh? Was it, did it feel like a, was it a shoulder one, or was it outward? It went on for a while, didn't it? He doesn't do his shoulders. He laughs like, yes, he goes. And he can cap his eye.
Starting point is 00:21:08 No, but what's wrong with him? Is he okay? Not really. He's on live telly. He's dealing with a lot of stuff. And, you know, normally, the guests are quite polite to him. I think they go, oh, that's a delicious pie or whatever. Yes.
Starting point is 00:21:19 So I'm firing, you know, you're a prison warden at him going, we're sort of going, you're rubbish at this show. We're throwing a lot of accusations his way. You can't do this stuff, guys. So he's stressed anyway, he's trying to cook while all this is going on. And then James smashes up the set at the end. Did you get a bill? No, actually.
Starting point is 00:21:36 Well, not that I know of, I think there Benito was billed. Benito. I feel so sorry for you. Benito was there. He was just off camera. And that all happened. And then we finished and walked up to Benito. He was like, good show, guys. He was absolutely expecting something like that to happen.
Starting point is 00:21:54 Oh, fantastic. There was no shock from Benito. Has Benito ever been off menu? No, he refuses to, even when he says something out loud that works for the episode, he'll cut it out because he doesn't want his voice to be on. Never wants to be on it. No.
Starting point is 00:22:07 We'll talk about that afterwards. Poplabs or bread. Poploms or bread. Poplums or bread. Bread! Bread! It has to be bread. It's got to be bread.
Starting point is 00:22:18 I mean, I love a flat bread. Hot, fresh out of the oven. But I also love a focaccia. That is quite delicately done. So the Rosemary Spriggs aren't, you know, too sharp. You know, sometimes it's like I'm trying to kill us or something. Yeah. Losemi Spigs, man.
Starting point is 00:22:39 Yeah. They can be spiking. Yeah. If you bite straight into one sometimes, I don't like that. And it's just like, it sets. It's your teeth on edge. Yeah. But I love a bread.
Starting point is 00:22:48 I mean, bread is just one of my great loves, you know. It's the ultimate sign of, it's like somebody giving you bread. It's somebody giving you love and. That's true, actually. And warmth. And it's like a welcome as well, isn't it? If you go to a restaurant and they bring you out warm bread, you're like, I feel at home now. Hello.
Starting point is 00:23:06 Yeah. Let's do this. Yeah. Would you like to be in a relationship with a baker? 150,000%. 50,000. But I think with bakers, maybe the archetype would be quite type A. Baking is scientific.
Starting point is 00:23:21 You can't sort of... Very true. Oh, I'm just going to throw some flour in here and whatever. Those people are disciplined. They are possibly using class A drugs. Yes. Bakers? All bakers?
Starting point is 00:23:37 Maybe so, yes. Because they've got scales? Yes. Yeah. So I'm connecting the. Dots anyway. When I, I'm quite a spiritual person. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:49 And I get visions, basically. So your visions tell you that the bakers are doing drugs? Yes. How useful are your visions normally? Because. Very useful. Yeah. Yes.
Starting point is 00:24:00 Do you think the baker, deciding that bakers do drugs is a useful vision to have, moving forward? I mean, if I was watching this show, Jonathan Creek. Why are you laughing? Because no one said Jonathan Creek out loud for about 15 years. No one's watching it. I just wasn't expecting it to be connected to baking. I thought you were going to say bake-off or something. And then I just wasn't expecting Jonathan Creek.
Starting point is 00:24:29 That's part of the media training, I'm trying to, because I get a lot of non-sequitous, but I'm trying to have more. No, no, no. But Jonathan Creek. Yeah. I love Jonathan Creek. Fantastic. You know that sort of.
Starting point is 00:24:41 what's the word? You have a sense about things and you can connect the dots and I'm kind of like him. Yeah, you're like Jonathan Creek. But just not a magician. I'd love to see a reboot of Jonathan Creek with you, you and the lead.
Starting point is 00:24:58 Who would you want like, as like your assistant? Your sidekick. That's a really, really good question. I think I'd want somebody like, I'd want like a Stephen Merchant. Nice. freakishly tall.
Starting point is 00:25:12 You're a merchant, yeah. Freakishly tall with sort of this totus shell glasses and then it'll be a dog somewhere. Yeah. So Stephen Merchant and the dog, they have a real rapport, but it's my dog. Yeah. Right. That's nice. Yes.
Starting point is 00:25:30 So you jealous of the rapport that the dog has with Stephen Merchant? Yeah, yeah. So it starts to affect our working relationship. Yeah. But my premonitions, they come there just inopportune moments. And I could sense what's going on with the other. crimes and I get pulled in. So my six,
Starting point is 00:25:44 my five, basically GCHQ are calling me every day. Yeah. And me and Stephen are having some issues because of the dog. Okay. But he's able to help me filter all of these visions through. Because like, for example, the baker and the scales might not be that useful. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:01 But Stephen is the one who helps me like pass through all of these images. Yes. Because he has a photographic memory. Wow. Wow. So everyone's got sort of powers on the, show. Everyone has powers on the show. What, the dog's powers?
Starting point is 00:26:15 The dog can actually speak. Because the dog can speak. But the dog only speaks at home. Because he doesn't want to reveal himself as the only dog in history, you can speak. Yeah, yeah. Because then the scientists are get involved, the military would get involved. Of course, it's too much. But the dog actually, like in the dog's lineage is like crow.
Starting point is 00:26:41 I don't know if you know that crows can speak. So, crows? Yeah. Crows can basically, yeah. In what way? What do you mean? So somewhere along the line, the dogs, great, great, great, great, great, maybe had a twist with the crow. Somehow, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:26:57 This is in the show. Yeah, maybe in second season. Yeah. Okay. We discover that the dog, the talking dogs, whatever their ancestors, had sex with a crow. Yes. And so that's how, so it's not as if it's magical. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:10 So you're saying crows can speak. Is that in the show? or is that in real life? Cruz can actually speak in real life. Yes. Benito, please check that. Didn't even look at him. As in they can speak to humans?
Starting point is 00:27:28 I think so, yes. You think so? I saw a TikTok, but it may have been AI. Look, but I think Cruz can actually speak. I think I've heard that. It may have been AI. Cruz can't speak. That's the thing with me.
Starting point is 00:27:39 I have some. I have a lot of factoids. Some of them are, I don't know if there's just me it's just me seeing into the future and it's not happened yet or it's something I've seen on TikTok so it could be a vision
Starting point is 00:27:52 yes it could be a AI TikTok it could be a fact yes yeah it'll be fun during this chat to try and filter out what's what I know it's absolutely not it's like I scare myself sometimes your dream starter
Starting point is 00:28:09 oh scotch egg I love that oh The curl of the lip, as you said, Scotch egg. Scotch egg. I mean, this country is many things. Do you want to just list off a few? This country's many things.
Starting point is 00:28:28 I nurse a colonial wound. Yeah. A child of empire begrudgingly. The UK, I have a complicated relationship with this state. But the fact that the scotch egg comes out of this place. Yeah. It's, it makes me, it gives me hope. Yes.
Starting point is 00:28:47 For a better, for a better tomorrow. How far does the Scotchegg go to redressing the balance with all of the other stuff, though? I think it goes quite far. Yeah. I mean, I'm still here. Yeah, the Scotcheg's keeping you here. Yeah, I can have returned to my homeland. I could have returned to an injury ages ago.
Starting point is 00:29:05 Scotcheg! You go to a nice little gastro pub. Yeah. And no frills. I don't want, I don't need a Teresa. I don't need any nonsense on their classic runny
Starting point is 00:29:18 egg in the middle some currents call action yeah crispy on the outside golden I mean this is a modern feat of engineering how do they keep the egg running
Starting point is 00:29:30 and cook the meat and I have it's just I could actually check that and like no but I think that's maybe where I'm not foody because I love the mystery I'm just going to keep it as a mystery
Starting point is 00:29:41 like how do these people cook the meat and have the egg still runny. Yeah. Maybe they freeze the egg first. So the egg is cooked and then frozen solid and then they wrap it in the meat and then they fry it.
Starting point is 00:29:54 And then by the time the meat's cut, the egg has become... Defrusted. Defrosted and the yolk is runny. But how would you freeze... You're not going to freeze the egg in the shell. No. This could be episode one of the New Jonathan Creek.
Starting point is 00:30:10 Yeah. Yes. How do they make scotch eggs? How do they make scotch eggs? But we don't Google it. Crucially, we cannot Google it. You can't Google it, no, not on Jonathan Creek. Imagine if you just Googled stuff.
Starting point is 00:30:20 Yeah. Crucially, we must get to the bottom of it in the most long-winded way possibly. Yeah, yeah. Stephen Merchant's helping you out, obviously. Of course. Because he's going around kitchens that makes scotch eggs and he's taking photos with his mind. Yes. When he takes photos with his mind, does he, like, do a thing with his face so you know he's taking the photo.
Starting point is 00:30:38 That's quite nice, a very long blink. Yeah, yeah. Yes, that's good. He does have quite long eyelids. He does. So that's useful. Well, he's got long everything right, because he's a tall guy. It'd be weird if he had short eyelids that didn't cover his eyes.
Starting point is 00:30:51 Yes. I do want it on record that I love Stephen Merchant more than anything. Really? He's never been on this podcast. So he's one of the things from the UK that you like, Scotch-Hexam merchant. Ooh. I love him. What do you love about him?
Starting point is 00:31:09 I love his eyes. I saw, there's come. almost like sunken. You know, he looks pensive, but also quite blazay. Yes. How do you get that balance to look like a days ago, but also he looks ancient, like an ancient, uh, uh, oracle? Yes, not as in he looks old.
Starting point is 00:31:37 Not as he looks like he has, he knows things. Yes. Yeah. Oh, and he's so funny. Yeah, he is a funny guy. Very talented man. Yeah. I just, yeah, he has to be, he's got to be, he's got to be my helper.
Starting point is 00:31:54 In the Jonathan Creek reboot. Yeah. Who do you want to do the voice of the dog? Can I be silly? Yeah. Yeah? Chris Morris. Oh, that'd be good.
Starting point is 00:32:06 He'd never do it. He'd absolutely never do it. I don't know. Sometimes he pops up and stuff, and you... He'd absolutely never do it. I mean, he is... But it would be a good... His voice would suit a dog.
Starting point is 00:32:21 Yeah. Yeah. Like a clever dog that's going around solving crimes. Yeah. It's very, very, very clever dog. Didn't you make a short film where someone's dog was speaking to them? I don't know. It's something he could do.
Starting point is 00:32:32 Yeah. That's a genius. Yeah. So you want the Scotch egg? I want a Scotch egg. I did a gig last night in Chelsea, in a pub in Chelsea. Joel Domit was on and Joel's always hungry
Starting point is 00:32:45 I need some food I need some food And they went Check that Yeah but he just works He works out loads He's got he's got that sort of like Energy as well Where he's constantly wriggling around
Starting point is 00:32:54 So he's always hungry And or he's got worms And the man working at the pub Went I'd get your Scotch Egg And he said do you want a Scotch egg to me I was like I just had dinner So I don't want a Scotcheg They brought down this
Starting point is 00:33:06 Incredible looking Scotcheg Proper running in the middle You refuse a Scotch egg Yeah, but I'd eat, I'd just eat him. Who do you think you are? I know. But then obviously I wanted a scotch egg. He's drinking shit water. Like, turning down scotch eggs.
Starting point is 00:33:19 What the hell do you think you are? This is a problem. But the audience hadn't been let in yet, and they were let in. They didn't even know Joel was on. And he was like a last minute edition. Like a surprise. Yeah. And then the audience started walking in, and there's no dressing room.
Starting point is 00:33:31 He was just sat like at the door eating a full scotch egg with yoke running down his chin. Like, what a treat we're in for tonight. Oh, that's an image. Yeah. But it looked like a good scotch egg. Scotchegg. Like posh gastro pub, Scotchang, yeah. Is that always be? Always be a yeah, the new one in Chelsea. That's a, that's a very good, that's a very good pub.
Starting point is 00:33:51 Yes. I mean, it looks like a restaurant. It's not a pub. I said on stage, this is not a pub, guys. It looks like a restaurant, but I don't, I think they might have to change the seating up a little bit. Okay. To give more pub. Yes. But I know the Scotcheg there will be, will be phenomenal. Yeah, it looked like a good Scotcheg. And the next time I do that gig. Oh, I'm getting a Scotch egg. I'm not having dinner. I'm having Scotcheg. I'm going, I'm literally, James, Tim, I will be having a Scotch egg. That's the people who run always be. Yeah, just for the listener, who don't know who James and Tim are.
Starting point is 00:34:22 Are two favorite men in comedy. They run always be comedy together. Sometimes when you get a Scotch egg, they'll give you like a chutney or like a dip or a little sauce with it. Do you want anything like that on your dream menu? I do like a little dip. I like a mayonnaise that is homemade. So it has a little bit of tanginess to it that can offset the kind of salt.
Starting point is 00:34:49 Yeah. A little bit of mustard in there maybe. A tiny bit of mustard in there. Saracha mayo or like a sarachia mayo? I love a sarachamayo. That's very, very good. A sarachamia and then there's like a... I've been getting truffle mayoes. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:03 Yeah, that's quite nice. Truffles, you know, it's overused in many ways. But in a mayo, just it, it does. up. It's okay. Wasabi mayo before we move on? Ah, wasabi mayo is not allowed. No, it's not allowed.
Starting point is 00:35:17 My chest, yes. It's going to be too, it's too hot. Okay. Yeah, I'm not very good with, I'm the one Nigeria, well, Yoruba girl. So where my, I'm half Yoruba, half Yadama, that's like the, there's lots of different ethnic groups in Nigeria. But Yorabas are famously good with, with like, spice levels.
Starting point is 00:35:37 Like we can eat hot food. I'm the only one who, simply cannot. The only... The only one. And if any, you're about, people comment on this thing and claim that they are amongst those who can't have spies,
Starting point is 00:35:51 delete the comments. I don't know if we can do that. Yeah. I think that will have to... You might have to give you the login and you can do it. You can't get Benito to do... I can do that manually.
Starting point is 00:36:02 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, if... I don't think Benito can go through filtering the comments like that. Okay. Yeah. I make unfounded claims that I think I need to
Starting point is 00:36:10 I need to actually just maintain. Yeah. Your dream main course. So this is where, you know I was telling you guys before that I was very nervous? Mm. Because coming on this institution and I don't want to let my family down and let basically the world down. And the main has been a real source of anguish for me. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:36:43 because I was born in London, but I grew up in Lagos, and I've been back and forth. And I don't want to disgrace my ancestors with this choice. You're putting a lot of weight on this choice here. Yeah. I don't think you can disgrace your ancestors with it. Maybe. You could do. But do bear in mind you could do.
Starting point is 00:37:05 So my dream main is going to have to be smoky joll of rice with ayamash. It's like a green stew And planting With Kosovo If it's possible This restaurant can give me anything Add Moimoi So Moi is like a bean cake
Starting point is 00:37:29 That's also got a bit of egg In it So double egg Double egg Double egg Yeah And it will all come together So it doesn't include my side
Starting point is 00:37:41 Yes Yeah it's all It's all in one format. There's no... It's all in one format. Yes, yes. It's all in one format. But if...
Starting point is 00:37:50 Because there's a lot of conflict about Jolof Rice. Yes, we've had, you know, we've had various sort of opinions on Jolof Rice on the podcast. And it's the most boring conflict and I'm going to put it to bed. Yeah. Once I speak on this... Many people have come on the podcast and said this. But they're going to try and put it to bed.
Starting point is 00:38:07 They've been like, I'm going to end it now. Okay. I'm not saying you can't do it. Yeah. It's not that. It's not that I'm going to try. But good luck. It's after this, we're not talking about it anymore.
Starting point is 00:38:17 I'm enforcing it. What do we have when we have other guests on and they want to talk about it? Do we say to them you can't? The irony has already spoken about it. Okay. And we've ended it. And we've ended it. You've got to pick something different.
Starting point is 00:38:27 This is it. Yeah. This is it Jolof rice. Is it Ghanian Jolof, whatever? It's not even either of those things. Right. Jolof rice from Senegal. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:39 Chebuddin. That's the original Jolof rice. We're not arguing about Nigerians and Ghanians anymore. Both of our Jolov rices are second to the one they are doing in Senegal. That is the end of it. So this particular Jolov that you guys are going to give me is going to be directly inspired by Cheb. So it's going to have that smokiness. It's going to have that.
Starting point is 00:39:04 It's almost like it feels like there's paprika. Just popping out. are you to say hello? You know what I mean? Yeah. Simmer to perfection. Yeah. The rice is fluffy.
Starting point is 00:39:19 It's almost like it's like in a 3D printer or something. It's like it's just, it's been to perfection. But it's just some auntie in the back, puts her back into it. Yeah. That sounds sexual. But I guess in some ways it is. Yeah. Sure.
Starting point is 00:39:39 I mean, it sounds phenomenal. Yeah. Oh, it's true. I love the smokiness. That's what brings me in. Yeah, yeah. Because I guess there's Joloff, you can just have that. It's not smoky.
Starting point is 00:39:49 But I love when it's like, it's like, this is like party Joloff, where you would get it like at a wedding or you're going to someone's 50th or something. And they burn the, like when the rice is simmering, they leave it at the end to burn and they put like foil on the cover. So it is, they're cooking it up. Yeah. And by the time they uncover that thing, they smell. yeah there's nothing like it yeah
Starting point is 00:40:16 I mean you can do when I make it it's not I can't get it smoky because of the way I don't have like an open flame on my right okay you need the open flame to get that taste
Starting point is 00:40:25 yeah yeah that's what does it that's what does it so what in the joloff obviously you've got all those spices and stuff is there like there's their meat in the joloff
Starting point is 00:40:35 what particular meat you would have so my meat my meat would be in my amashi so the meat will always be on this on the side
Starting point is 00:40:40 but you're But you would have simmered it in like a beef stock or like a chicken stock. So that will come through. Yeah. But then some people have like, I love a smoked turkey. Like a turkey wing. And it's a bit soft. So you're fighting with the meats, you know.
Starting point is 00:40:58 But you know that it's your doing, it's a labour of love to consume this meal. Yeah. And so the meat's mainly coming in the green stew. Yeah. But some people don't like. So I love to have Ayamashi with my jawlo fries rather than this stew. with a white rice because some people do that
Starting point is 00:41:13 but I like to have a clash of of seasonings Right so I don't like it because it's too much It's too much I think it is too much
Starting point is 00:41:23 but I err on the side of too much Yeah So you're making this at home Well I So I've actually discovered It's almost like a ready meal and it's called Tasties
Starting point is 00:41:35 They sell it in some of the big Sainsbury's in the country And it is Jolof Rice and Chicken and then they have Ayamashi and they have this is the best thing in the world
Starting point is 00:41:46 Gizdu so it's Gizard and Doodoo together do do do is plantain Yes Not the extinct bird Not the extinct bird Best in peace RIP will be really hilarious
Starting point is 00:41:57 If the bird was extinct Because we were eating it Yeah But the Gizdo is like It then adds like a sweetness Because that's sort of red peppers Green peppers
Starting point is 00:42:07 sweetness of the plantain And that you can also have that as a side. So there's lots of different types of meats. Yeah. And then, oh, shaki. Do you guys know tripe? Yes. Sure. Little pieces of tripe. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:42:22 Dotted. Yeah. About in the stew. I love all that. It's emotional. Shout out to tripe. Shout out to tripe. He loves tripe. I love tripe. It's so good.
Starting point is 00:42:34 It's so good. And people get so weird about stuff like that. Yeah, because it's not good to eat as an animal's stomach. Because it's first. of waste. Oh yeah, you're obsessed with not eating waste, aren't you? I am.
Starting point is 00:42:45 Yeah. Yeah, I actually had for about maybe three or four months I was obsessed with fecal clouds. Do you mean farts or? No, as in when you
Starting point is 00:42:56 go into public toilets. Yeah. Basically, if you're in a bar or like in a pub, don't take your drink into the toilet because they're fecal clouds.
Starting point is 00:43:07 Yeah. Because, you know, like if people have done done shits in there and stuff that can evaporate into the air. The whole shit evaporates into the air. Some of it. Some of it.
Starting point is 00:43:18 And leaves like fecal matter. Yeah. As a mist. Yeah. Which can't settle into your drink. But that when you get, if you're going into the toilet, aren't you breathing that in any way?
Starting point is 00:43:31 This is the thing. This is the problem. So damned if I do, damned if I don't. Yeah. They see tough times never last. Only tough people do. do. I've never heard that phrase.
Starting point is 00:43:43 Yeah, I like that phrase. Because life is tough. So what do you do now if you, you don't take your drink into the toilet? I don't take my drink into the toilet, but I have to breathe. Yeah. I've got to breathe. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:57 So I'm in there like this. Oh, God, I can't. There's just so much about life that is, it is so difficult. Yeah. Yeah. The weight of existence, I mean. And if you worry about the weight of existence,
Starting point is 00:44:13 and then you find out about fecal clouds. Like what you're supposed to do? Over the edge. I call some maritans. Yeah. Yeah. Over the edge. Because also, think about who's doing a shit in a pub. It's the worst people. It's not the people who care about their health or anything. The way my bar movement is set up. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:29 I have to put my hand up. The way my bowel movements are set up. You shit in a pub as well. Right. Well, I've just slagged you both off. I'm sorry. Benito, you're shitting in a pub? Right. What is wrong with you? Do your shits at home? Sorry, shit break. I'm shit break. He's a shit break. I'm shit break from American Pie. Yeah. Do you have a shit break for a milk and pie?
Starting point is 00:44:46 No. Could I use his own toilet at home? Yeah. It's they called him shit break. But you'd shit here. If I needed a shit, I would go for a shit in the pub, but I tend to be like, wake up in the morning, start making the coffee,
Starting point is 00:45:01 the smell of the coffee, off to the toilet, bish-bash, bosh, that's me for the day. That's good. Yeah, it's pretty good, right? That's quite regular. One of the evacuation. It's pretty much the same time every day. It's one of the most, like, liberating things about starting stand-up is that I started shitting in pups.
Starting point is 00:45:18 What did you, do you, do you remember your first stand-up shit in a pub? I remember some early ones. Let's clarify what you mean by that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I wasn't standing up while I was shitting. But, yeah, I didn't do a stand-up shit. I've done a squat shit. Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:31 I do, I have to do a squat shit in a pub. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it is, it is precarious. Yeah. Yeah, you go, this could end very. bad. It's going to do it. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:43 I remember those early days of thinking like, I'm actually doing this. I never would have done this. I'd always been like, absolutely no way. I'm going for a shit in a public toilet. No way I'm doing that. Early on with it sounds like, I'm going to have to.
Starting point is 00:45:55 I'm nervous before these gigs. Yeah. And I was like, do you know what? I don't even care anymore. This is great. It's fantastic. Sitting here. Reckless abandon?
Starting point is 00:46:03 Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely reckless abandon all the way, all the way out. I think that's really, I think that says a lot about you. And I think it's just. it's opened up a whole new frontier of your emotional state. Yes. You should start doing it.
Starting point is 00:46:16 I don't think I should start doing it. It means I have to hold my morning one in. Why would you hold your morning one in, sir? Well, because I don't need one when I'm in the pub, do I? Okay, that's true. So if you want me to start shitting in a pub, I'm going to have to hold my morning one in. Oh, yeah, that's true. It needs new one.
Starting point is 00:46:29 It's the morning one. Will Smith does this. What? What does he do? I heard on the radio, and Will Smith said, when he's having a shit in the morning, he wants to get it done. Yeah. He doesn't want to be going back and needing another shit later on in the day.
Starting point is 00:46:44 So he'll sit on the toilet and he'll be there. He's got like almost like a mini office there. So that he's having the shit. That's not true. He said it in an interview. He said it in an interview. This was a long time ago. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:58 I heard him say this. An office. Wait, it's like he's got his thing. He's got his phone. He's got like some books. He's just there with a bunch of whatever he needs for the day. That's there while he's. having a shit so that like if anyone, you know, if anything happens,
Starting point is 00:47:16 he's across it. He's across it. And he's there for a long time. I wonder how long is long. Yeah. He just said he was on the radio. I remember I was in Italy. He was on the radio.
Starting point is 00:47:28 Yeah, I was in the car. Why are you listening to Will Smith on the radio when you're in Italy? Just on the radio. We just put on the radio and he was being interviewed. And he said, I like to get it done. Yeah. He said, I like to get it done. I don't want to be going back later on.
Starting point is 00:47:40 I like to get it done. Later one in the day and having like part two, part three. Yeah, but you're not supposed to be on there for that. No. You're not supposed to be on there for that long. No, you get piles if you do that.
Starting point is 00:47:49 Yeah, you're not supposed to do that. Yeah, yeah. I mean, that explains so much about him. Yeah. Dream side dish then. You said that your side is not included. This is where it gets tricky because I do have,
Starting point is 00:48:07 I feel like I need to also be a little bit, like, grown up. So I will do a side of tender stone broccoli. A bit of brocolini Just some rock salt Some olive oil Maybe a bit of garlic And I need it crunchy
Starting point is 00:48:23 Because I want to feel like I've also Had my five a day Yes You're still getting the nutrients out of it It's not been overcoat And I'll just I'll just work at that Intimitantly
Starting point is 00:48:36 So is that just to make you feel like a grown-up And like you're being healthy Just to make me And also typically I would be like At dinner with my sister Or like friends and we love brocolini. The girls love a broccolini.
Starting point is 00:48:50 Tender stem, slender. And it's a little bit, you know, it's a little bit cheeky. Always, always a tender step. So you're having it to feel grown up or are you having it because you love it and the girls love brookoline? Many things can be true at once.
Starting point is 00:49:05 Yeah. Yeah. And I think there's a duality there. Yeah. You know? Multiplicity, if you must. Because it's the girls, the girls love a brocolini. I want to feel grown up.
Starting point is 00:49:16 And it actually tastes quite nice. It does. I mean, no, I think I started eating broccoli to be grown up and be like, you've got to get your vitamins in. Yeah. But over time, I love it now. It's just good. And even at home, it's so easy.
Starting point is 00:49:28 Like, if I'm doing like a salmon and potatoes, I'll just toss some broccoli. Yeah. On the side. Like, I'll steam it a little bit and then put it in a frying pan. Lutsu sesame oil with some salt. onion powder, garlic powder, toss, toss, toss, little butter,
Starting point is 00:49:48 we are good to go. Yeah. You got a steamer? I know, I just, I steam it manually. I'll just put it, you know how you do? It's like almost,
Starting point is 00:49:56 did it call it Ban Mary? Oh yeah. The one that just, you just put it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I just did like that. That's how I do it as well. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:04 I put it in just like a sieve. I put it in like the strainer to broccoli and then put it above the water and then cover it with her. Yeah, yeah. And it steams it by itself. Yeah. We got,
Starting point is 00:50:12 my mom got a steamer when we were kids and it was a big deal. It's a real big deal, that steamer. Yeah. It is a big, I mean, she, as in a purpose-built steamer. Yeah, it was like a really big day, we got this steam, and this is how we're going to do our vegetables now. Different shelves, you put them on different shelves.
Starting point is 00:50:28 Different little shelves. I don't, I don't understand the shelving system, but I guess you could do more than one at once. I guess that was it. I guess the closest to the steam. Yeah, because the further away from the steam, you would have it like a bit aldente. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:39 So you'd put the ones that don't need to. Did they still sell those? They must do. They're pretty bulky, though, I think, from memory. I hate washing it up. Oh no, it makes more sense. We can just do it the way we've been doing it.
Starting point is 00:50:49 Yeah, I think so. Because then we just get multi-use out of our pans, you know. Yeah, exactly. I think with it, like, I don't have enough room in my kitchen for all this stuff. I want all of these gadgets, but I'd be really annoyed with it eventually. Because you have to put it. I don't think it's good to see the gadgets. So you have like a minimalist kitchen set up.
Starting point is 00:51:07 You want to put the gadgets away. I don't have a big enough kit. So it has to look, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But my dream, I can't, you're going to have to cut. No, I'm not saying it. I can't say it.
Starting point is 00:51:16 That was good because you were going to say something. Then you said you're going to have to cut this out. And then you went, no, I can cut this out by not saying it. Yes. Yeah. That's media training. Yeah. It's working.
Starting point is 00:51:28 Yeah. What was it, though? I would like to have two kitchens. Yes. The cooking kitchen and the stage kitchen. Yes. I am trying to, my new thing now is I want to be more like, like everyday girl. like girl next door
Starting point is 00:51:47 Brocolini girl Yeah She cycles You know Spliss the bill with her boyfriend That kind of thing Like really Like normal girl
Starting point is 00:51:58 Yeah But actually I want two kitchens Yeah But that's why the second kitchen's hidden right Because then you don't need to The second kitchen is like And a lot Some people in like
Starting point is 00:52:07 Really rich people in Nigeria Have this Would have the kitchen Because our food is very very fragrant So it's like, it's really hard to make sure the smells don't like go into your whole house. Yeah. So if you're of means, you would cook behind, like in the kitchen, behind the house.
Starting point is 00:52:24 Yes. So it's like, it might even be just a thing of like practicality. Yeah. In the show kitchen, would there be any practicality to it? Could you do anything in the show kitchen or would it be all be like fake food and stuff? You can do things in the show kitchen. So all the things you do in the show kitchen are like you can steam the veg. Like you can do like last minute touch-ups.
Starting point is 00:52:47 Like you can make tea and coffee. Yeah. Like, but it's not going to be, I'm not going to be frying palm oil. Yes. In the show kitchen. The hardcore stuff happens in the back kitchen. It's got to happen in the back. I like it as an idea.
Starting point is 00:53:01 Yeah, but I don't want to give down to it. Like, I'm not trying to be like, you know, aristocratic. Yeah. What about this? Free kitchens. Oh. So that's interesting. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:12 And it's almost like, so it's like, yeah, getting closer and closer to the belly of the beast. It's like going down into your mind. Yeah. Yeah. I like that. So what happens in your mind in the three kitchens, how are they split up then, jobs-wise? Yeah, yeah. The first one, so it's like tea and coffee.
Starting point is 00:53:29 Yes. Yeah. Second one, getting a bit. So you'd have like, you'd fry garlic in there. Yeah. We'll make a sandwich in the second one. You can make a sandwich in the first. Really?
Starting point is 00:53:40 Yeah. Because sandwich is cold, right? Yeah. But if you're making a toasty, got to be down. Got to be in the second. Second kitchen. Second kitchen is for tosties. Yes.
Starting point is 00:53:48 Yeah. Third kitchen. Third kitchen, I think that's like your spit roasts. Like, yeah, if you're like spit roasting stuff. Yes. A whole pig. Yeah, there should be like a pit in there, like those fire pits. Open fire.
Starting point is 00:54:02 Definitely open fire in there. Yeah. Got that in there. A furnace. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And like hot chocolate.
Starting point is 00:54:12 Hot chocolate, second kitchen. You know. what? It depends on the kind of hot chocolate you're making. Yeah. I saw one in, I can't remember who's come up with this chili, chili, like, hot chocolate with the chili in it. Get that shit in the third kitchen. Yeah, that's in the third kitchen. Because it's like you're in a lab.
Starting point is 00:54:29 Yeah. It's great. I love it. I love it. Put stuff. Yeah. Just throwing stuff together. In your mind, are you the one cooking in all the kitchens? Or are there people cooking for you in the kitchens? Unfortunately, there are people who are very well compensated. Yeah. and who love their jobs.
Starting point is 00:54:44 Of course. But do they get uglier as they go down through the kitchen? Mine is like the teffered in us. Yeah. I think they're going to be the same beauty levels. Okay. Because, I mean, I think beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Sure.
Starting point is 00:55:03 So anybody who comes into the house is automatically beautiful. Right. Because their spirit must be pure. So I don't... Ed thinks people are. ugly. Yeah, especially in the third kitchen.
Starting point is 00:55:16 In the third kitchen, I'm imagining it's really dark in there. It's almost candlelight. It's like a medieval kitchen. And everyone's like, they're doing the spirit. I'll never speak a host. We've got to another pig
Starting point is 00:55:28 how many spritish and shit out there? They're really like I didn't like that at all. No, but then you don't need to speak to them. Right. Because they have to pass a message up to the second kitchen and then they pass out of the A.E.
Starting point is 00:55:42 Okay, so the third kitchen people, the sort of gremlins, they will not be allowed out. No, you never see them. Okay, okay. Just live in the kitchen, I guess. Right. Your dream drink. Margarita! It can be alcoholic, right?
Starting point is 00:56:03 Yeah. Yeah. So Margarita. I said, no. This is a cheap. Dry January, we're recording this. No, I don't even do dry January anymore. I don't pretend.
Starting point is 00:56:12 No. I don't think it's, it makes sense to do that, to stop drinking. in the hardest month of the year. Yeah. I went to a restaurant yesterday, and on the menu, it said, it's dry martini January. You love that, didn't you?
Starting point is 00:56:28 So it was just... That's it. They're doing dry martinis all month. What's the restaurant called? I'll go there today. It's called Sooner. Spell S-U-N-E. S-U-N-E.
Starting point is 00:56:38 Sooner. Yeah. Shout out to them. Dry martini January. Yeah, it's too hard right now to be giving up drinking. Yeah. Also, it is a bit silly that you go from, like,
Starting point is 00:56:47 the month, you drink the most in December. Yes, to nothing. To nothing. You need a soft landing, I think. Yeah, it shocks his system. I think dry January should actually just be like beers and wine. Yes.
Starting point is 00:56:59 So maybe no spirits. Yeah. If you want to be like sort of strict about it. I went to a pub the other day as well. This is sounding like I'm going absolutely hog wild. But like went to a pub and the bar, there was a little gong about that big, a little mini gong on the bar. and it was there for people to hit it
Starting point is 00:57:20 when they couldn't do dry January anymore. Of course. So it was just, if someone decided, I can't just go over and hit the gong. And that would happen literally in, like you would lose your resolve at that pub. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:36 I'd do that. I'd hit that New Year's Eve. Yeah. Oh, sure. Yeah, yeah. Happy New Year. Don. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:42 I once didn't drink for a year. Yeah. And to be honest, it did change my life. Yeah. Oh. It was a completely... For the better.
Starting point is 00:57:51 Yes, transformative experience, and I have never had that much clarity and peace. But then I went to a wedding and I got absolutely slosh. And it just broke the sobriety. Yeah. So goodbye to clarity and peace. And since that I've not known it these wrists. But you're like a margarita?
Starting point is 00:58:14 Of course, two. Two margaritas. I love a tommies. So sometimes I alternate. So I do like a salt rim, just like shaken, right? Not the one that they put ice in it. Oh, so you don't want the, there's like loads, you don't want loads of ice in the cup.
Starting point is 00:58:31 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I just want it, just give me the marg. Yeah, yeah. Salt rim, and then I'll alternate with the Tommy's. Tommy's a little bit sweeter. What's the Tommy's? So Tommy's Margarita, just like a, they, I think there's less quantro or might be no quantro at all.
Starting point is 00:58:44 And it just, it's not as tangy. So it doesn't really hit the back of your. you'll throw it the same way. And I'll just alternate like that. Nice. Until I start slurring my words. Yes. Spicy margaritas?
Starting point is 00:58:57 Why do you stand on that? I can't do. I think the spicy margarita is actually it's one of the reasons why the UK social contract is failing. I think people need, we need to start having a dialogue about the spicy margarita.
Starting point is 00:59:12 What is that? Why is it spicy? Yeah. What am I drinking? Pepper? who came up with it? I don't know, actually. But I like a spicy mug.
Starting point is 00:59:24 Ed, where did it come from? What, my love of spicy mug or the drink? My love of spicy mug? I don't know, I just like a bit of spice. It puts the zing and my ding-a-ling. I love it. Well, what? Don't you ever say that again.
Starting point is 00:59:37 That zing-my-diggerling? I'm horrified. It's the first time that he's actually... Look, I felt that it was going to be the only time I could say that. He's completely... I apologize. I want I apologize so much. There was a tea advert with Stephen Fry.
Starting point is 00:59:52 They said that phrase. I liked it. It just means like, you know, a bit of pep in your step. You're dingoling, is your penis? Yeah, I know, but I don't mean it gives me a... In my dinger, me a boner. I don't mean it gives me a boner. I just mean it peps me up.
Starting point is 01:00:04 That's what it means. That's what it means. It does mean that. It's different now. It's different now. It does mean that. It doesn't mean that now. I'm going to, every time as somebody orders a spicy margarita in my presence,
Starting point is 01:00:14 I'm going to think about a zing and your dingaling. Yes. Yeah. I'm bringing up. your little, I'll bring it up. Little pathetic ding-ling getting a zing
Starting point is 01:00:22 shooting down it. What's wrong? What's wrong with me getting a zing in my dingling from a spicy mind? Absolutely disgraceful. We've got a guest here. Disgraceful.
Starting point is 01:00:32 I know you too well. I would object if you were saying that in the intros and outros are just me and Benito. Yeah. I know what is right there. Yes. And you're saying
Starting point is 01:00:40 about getting zinging, your dingling. Your penis. I just mean I like it. I just mean I like it. And it gives me a pep in my step. 9-99. Please.
Starting point is 01:00:47 Yeah. They call them the police. Right. I can't, I think, and I don't know if Soho House, that terrible establishment is the reason for the spicy margarita being unleashed onto all of us. Yes. And I have a feeling it's them. I can't remember what they call it, though. They call it something different.
Starting point is 01:01:08 Picante. Picante. That's it. Yeah. Picante. And they have something to do with it. It's a conspiracy. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:16 Yeah. I mean, I'm happy to blame them. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I think it's, yeah, I can't have it spicy for some reason. I'm happy to blame them. Yeah. Heartburn.
Starting point is 01:01:25 Sorry, sorry, guys. Oh, yeah. Of course, yes. Do I go? Absolutely not. Oh, wow. You remember. James, are you a member?
Starting point is 01:01:38 No. I got it free for a while because they did gigs for them. Right. I had it free for about four years. Okay. Spent so much time now. Interesting. It turns out you're the loser, Joe.
Starting point is 01:01:54 I'm the little dwee. Yeah. He's not a member of Sewer House. Sorry. We arrive at your drink dessert. That will be a sticky toffee pudding. Lovely. I'm more of a custard girl than an ice cream.
Starting point is 01:02:08 Now, with a sticky toffee pudding, what I'm finding is that certain establishments seem to be skimping on the dates. Okay. And to get the perfect sort of ratio, sort of moist, to kind of firmness, let's bring back the dates. And the sauce on top, that like treacle, the treacle sauce, I want it like a drip, like mainline, inject it directly into my eyeballs. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:38 If possible. We can do that at the dream restaurant if you want. Yes. Sometimes I go to a place and I'm like, oh, I order the sticky toffee. I'm excited. It comes. The treacle sauce, it's like, I am in jail.
Starting point is 01:02:52 Like, can you give me some more? I feel like Oliver twists, like I'm begged, like I need the trickle sauce. I need as much of it as possible. And it's the perfect way to calm my nerves, my belly is full,
Starting point is 01:03:10 and I just add a little bit on top and a sticky toffee with so much trickle sauce that a Victorian child will be dead. by the end of the tea. Because it had so much. Because it had so much. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:26 With some custard. The custard is swirling into the sauce. Yeah. And it's making this sort of marbled effect on the plate. Typically there's candlelight to then compliment. I mean, this is what it means to be alive. Yeah. What else is there?
Starting point is 01:03:44 Yeah. Do you want any, like, fecal clouds anywhere near that? I will fucking flip this mic. I was in a state of bliss. You know, I was like, I was right there. Yeah, he knew that. And that's why he brought up the faecal clots. Oh, that is cruel.
Starting point is 01:04:03 Yeah, that's cool. That's a cruel thing to do. Yeah. Sorry. A fecal cloud would end that. It's just ended it. Yeah. 100%.
Starting point is 01:04:11 What an awful way to end the dream, then you? A fecal cloud. A fecal cloud, yeah. A fecal cloud, right at the end. A little petty four. Yeah, yeah, petty four. I feel like stomping you out Yeah
Starting point is 01:04:21 Gets often feel like that Yeah I don't feel proud of it Yeah I'm sort of defiled yourself Yeah yeah So I love the I love the
Starting point is 01:04:31 Yeah it sounds amazing The custard swelled in with it Sometimes do you find When I delve into a sticky toffee When I want it to be Like moist with that sauce Throughout the whole thing Yes yeah
Starting point is 01:04:44 And sometimes you get in it's dry It's dry in the middle So that for me is where, and I don't know what, if that's a mistake or if it's on purpose, but it must be throughout, not on top. But I think that's also what you're talking about with the dates, the lack of dates. If there's dates throughout it, that stays moist. Yeah, yeah. Because I'm seeing it where it's more of like this weird cake.
Starting point is 01:05:08 Like sponge. Yeah, yeah. And I just, I'm just like, I'm always looking forward to sticky toffee. But there seems to be like a, and I think maybe if there's an on-busy, or some kind of like quality control. Yeah. Yeah. That's, you know, like in, in, you can't call something champagne if it's not from the region of champagne.
Starting point is 01:05:27 Yes. Oh, yeah. Some kind of standard for the sticky toffee that we know that if we've ordered this thing. Yeah. That it's going to be that. Yes. So, and maybe somebody's looking into it. I don't know, Gordon, help us out.
Starting point is 01:05:40 Yeah. Gordon Ramsey. Yeah, Goda Ramsey is one of my, unfortunately, one of my idols. Really? That's a surprise. You love love and you love life and very spiritual. Gordon Ramsey doesn't embody those things when I think about him. Yeah, but I guess I contain multitudes.
Starting point is 01:05:59 Yes. Absolutely. What do you love about Gordon Ramsey? I love that he is able to immediately detect when something has been microwaved. And he will just say it. Yeah. Is this been microwaved? And if you dare lie.
Starting point is 01:06:15 Yeah. He knows. He knows what you doing. Yeah. He's not really. asking, is he? He's not asking. It's a test.
Starting point is 01:06:23 And it's a very Nigerian thing to do. So there's something about him that's so Nigerian. Yeah. Because he's asking you because he knows they if you lie. Oh, Gordon. And why are you surfing him
Starting point is 01:06:37 frozen food? Yeah. Why do you serve? These people on kitchen nightmares, what are they playing at? It's like, come on. Yeah. He'll know.
Starting point is 01:06:45 He'll know. He'll know. This is being filmed. It's just. We know. know of the audience. Why lie when it's already been filmed? Have you seen him touch a plate?
Starting point is 01:06:55 Because he's, and he's, he moves it round like this. Yeah. And what he's doing is he's inspecting the dish, but he's also checking the temperature of the plate because that's one of the ways he knows that he's been macro-wift. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:10 So you think you're, you think you're going to deceive Gordon Ramsey? Why are you trying to deceive Gordon-Ramsey? I would, I personally would know. Never tried to deceive Gordon Ramsey. And when he declares, sometimes you've microwaved it, that's too bad. If you haven't microwaved it, but there's something about it that is not quite right. He'll say, it's dry.
Starting point is 01:07:34 It's just, it's so dry. The way he pronounces restaurant, he says, restaurant. Oh, Gordon. I love Gordon Ramsey. Oh. First of all, I'll read your menu back to you and you see how you feel about it, okay? So you would like, still water, bottled, very important, this bottled. Yes.
Starting point is 01:07:55 Pop-on-ins of bread, you want flat bread or feccapsia with rosemary, starter, scotch egg with homemade mayonnaise. Main course, smoky jolof rice with Iamasse. Aya-Mashie. Ayamashi. Ayamashi. Ayamashay, plantain, coleslaw and moi. Yes. Side dish, tender stand broccoli with rock salt, olive oil and garlic.
Starting point is 01:08:15 Drink. Alternate between margarita and a Tommy's margarita. Does a sticky toffee pudding with so much treatle sauce and custard. How do you feel about that? That's a beautiful menu. For the bread, can I add one thing? Yes. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:29 It could also be pandasal. What's that? What's that? What is? I think it's Filipino. There's this restaurant, Rameau and Soho. It's like Filipino ramen. I've been there.
Starting point is 01:08:40 It's great. I really like that place. Oh, the panacelle. It's a fluffy bread that is just like... I don't think I had the bread. I should have had the bread. I should have had the bread. Yeah, get the bread next time.
Starting point is 01:08:51 It is fantastic. It soaks up any sauce that you can get your hands. And they put garlic and butter on it. Oh, yeah. It's high and is soft pandesal. Yeah. Added. That's added to the menu.
Starting point is 01:09:07 You got it. Pretty good menu. It's pretty delicious. Do you think? Yeah, really good. That Maine made me really hungry. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:13 I really like the scotch egg into the joloff into sticky toffee pudding. It's sort of like a British Nigerian fusion. Yeah. Yes. But it just sounds really warming and filling. Yeah, I love a warm and filling meal. Yeah. And just like you're chatting and like laughing and you just feel like you might actually be all right.
Starting point is 01:09:34 Yeah. You were worried you'd let people down today. Yeah. Do you feel like you have? I hope I haven't. I don't think you have. I think we've let ourselves down. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:44 And like I think, you know, maybe there's going to be a lot more complaints to the BBC. Probably. Probably. Whereas I think you were worried about letting down your ancestors. Yes. I think you've absolutely made them proud. Yes. And also, thank you so much. And think how proud you've made Gordon Ramsey as well.
Starting point is 01:10:00 Thank you. Gordon. One day we shall discuss. Oh, that's the end of the sentence? Yes. One day we shall discuss. Thank you for coming to the dream restaurant, I-Y day. Thank you so much. This has been joyful.
Starting point is 01:10:18 Yes. I've loved every second. I love that episode, James. Absolutely fantastic. I think we really got to know how I wanted there. Like absolutely every single aspect of her being came through in that podcast. Yes.
Starting point is 01:10:37 Very spiritual at times. Yes. Obviously hilarious. Yes. Sometimes very serious. Yes. Very stern. And Scotcheg.
Starting point is 01:10:45 I love Scotchegs. Yeah. Absolutely love Scotchegs. And did not say Biscop at any point. So we didn't have to kick around the dream restaurant. Imagine a Biscop scotch egg. Wouldn't not like that? Speak for yourself.
Starting point is 01:10:56 If the egg was, if the egg was like, you know, a cabri's cream egg and it was like covered in like a like a marshmallow and then there was a Biscop layer around the marshmallow and then it's covered in like digestive biscuit crumbs and then they deep fry that. I'll try that. They deep fry it? Yeah, got a deep fry it. You are mad. What?
Starting point is 01:11:20 You would try that? I'd try that. That'd blow your head off. Who you talking about? That's too sweet for you, even. No way. Cabrie's cream egg covered in Bisk off sort of sausage meat style. And then...
Starting point is 01:11:32 With marshmallows? No, no marshmallows. I say I said marshmallow. No, but I'm saying, this is what I want. This is... I'm reducing the sugar. Bisk off around the outside. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:43 And then rolled in toasted coconut for the breadcrumb style thing. Fucking out. Why don't you just go to a health spa, mate? Cry. Don't forget to go and see I-O-I-D-A on tour. The show is called Swings and Roundabouts. Award-winning. Award-winning show.
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Starting point is 01:12:11 Subscribe to the YouTube. Yeah, I'd say in that episode, there was a lot of, like, you know, acting out a lot of facial expressions that you've really got. cross. How much I why they loves all those. The curl of the lip at Scotchegg needs to be seen. It's worth it for that.
Starting point is 01:12:26 It's worth it just for the curl of the lip. But thanks for listening to this, obviously. Even if you like, I've heard it, what I need to watch it, just go and put it on in the background or something so we get another view. Yes. Because Benita said if the YouTube doesn't take off soon, he's going to take all his clothes off and run into the sea. Yeah, and sell his house.
Starting point is 01:12:40 Like Reginal. He's got to sell his house. He's going to sell his house. Then where's Toast can I live? Imagine poor toast walking around London with a bindle. Oh, a little toast of a bit. or just go around London. I would not like that.
Starting point is 01:12:52 Just because the YouTube wasn't watched enough. Yeah, even though he was really naughty yesterday. Yeah, was naughty yesterday. Wouldn't need me alone? Wouldn't need me alone? Triple on the side. Tripled on him.
Starting point is 01:13:01 Thanks for listening. Bye! Bye!

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