Off Menu with Ed Gamble and James Acaster - Ep 170: Babatunde Aléshé

Episode Date: November 9, 2022

Let’s GO! Stand-up comedian and I'm a Celeb and Celebrity Gogglebox star Babatunde Aléshé orders his dream meal this week. And do NOT piss him off. Babatunde is starring in the current series of I...'m a Celebrity… Get Me Out of Here! on ITVSee Babatunde of tour in 2023 with Babahood. For dates and tickets go to his website. Follow Babatunde on Twitter @BabatundeComedy and Instagram @BabatundeComedianRecorded and edited by Ben Williams for Plosive.Artwork by Paul Gilbey (photography and design) and Amy Browne (illustrations).Follow Off Menu on Twitter and Instagram: @offmenuofficial.And go to our website www.offmenupodcast.co.uk for a list of restaurants recommended on the show.Watch Ed and James's YouTube series 'Just Puddings'. Watch here. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello, it's Ed Gamble here from the Off Menu podcast that you're listening to right now. I'm here to tell you that I am on tour. UK and Ireland tour. Hot Diggity Dog is the name of the show. Starting on March the 12th, going all over to lots of places. Go to edgamble.co.uk to buy tickets for what I believe is a very funny show. We'll have a nice time. See you there.
Starting point is 00:00:20 Bye. Hot Diggity Dog! Thank you, James. See you there. Bye. Hot diggity dog! Thank you, no. But chicken tenders, yes. Because those are groceries, and we deliver those too. Along with your favorite restaurant food, alcohol, and other everyday essentials.
Starting point is 00:00:52 Order Uber Eats now. For alcohol, you must be legal drinking age. Please enjoy responsibly. Product availability varies by region. See app for details. Welcome to the Off Menu Podcast, taking the oats of humour, pouring in the milk of the internet, putting into a big, lovely, fun, friendly pan, and bubbling away until you get thick podcast porridge. That's a gamble there. My name is James Acaster and this is the Off Menu Podcast. We own a dream restaurant. We invite a guest in every single week and we ask them their favourite ever starter, main course, dessert, side dish and drink, not in that order. And this week
Starting point is 00:01:39 our guest is Babatunde Aleche. Babatunde Aleche, an absolutely wonderful comedian. You may recognise him, of course, from many, many stand-up comedy gigs. And of course, you will recognise him from the wonderful Celebrity Gogglebox. He watches stuff with Mo Gilligan on there. I love Gogglebox so much. They're so funny together.
Starting point is 00:01:58 And also, we're very excited because on one episode, Babatunde wore an off-menu T-shirt. Yes. Which is big for us. Pretty big. The only people who've worn our Percival merch on television before are us. Yes, us. So it's really nice when
Starting point is 00:02:13 someone who's not us. You wore it on Big Fat Quiz of the Year, and my appearance is yet to be shown. Right. I wore it on Pointless. And you'll be able to see that I really tried to get the merch in there because originally I tried
Starting point is 00:02:27 to put my name tag over the design and I said no can I wear it on the other side they said no and we compromised on me wearing it unnaturally high
Starting point is 00:02:35 so look out for that can't wait we'll look that up on Sunday but if you choose this one of the secret ingredients or the secret ingredient we just have one a week,
Starting point is 00:02:45 something that we do. Normally we deem it to be disgusting, so we chuck people out. But lately it's been more, if we can just relate it to the guest, it makes it a bit easier. We've run out of food that we don't like, really. We ran out of that in probably episode two. We love food. But the ingredient this week that will get Babatunde chucked out
Starting point is 00:03:04 at the Dream Restaurant is Campbell's soup. Campbell's soup. Now, that is because Babatunde wore the T-shirt on Gogglebox and it had the tin of Campbell's soup on it. Tin of Campbell's soup. So that's our link. That's the thing that binds us.
Starting point is 00:03:21 I don't think I hate Campbell's soup necessarily. No, I hate it. I don't have it that much, if I'm honest. How often't think I hate Campbell's soup necessarily. No, I hate it. I don't have it that much, if I'm honest. How often are you getting Campbell's soup? Never. Never. Zero never. Sometimes I get that, if I'm going to buy soup,
Starting point is 00:03:35 I'll probably get, you know, the supermarket, so if it's Sainsbury's or Tesco, that's in like, you know. The big plastic pots. Big plastic pot. Yeah. Or I'll get that little whatever the the farm one is it's in a carton a cardboard carton the covent garden so yeah i i went through a big phase with covent garden i think i'm out the other side now yeah now i'm all about the
Starting point is 00:03:55 own brand big buckets sure love them just like a chicken and veg or something yeah if i'm if it makes me feel healthy to have soup yes you. You know? Yeah, absolutely. A soup lunch. And the chunkier the better these days. I used to be all about the smooth soups, completely smooth. I want as much stuff in them as possible now. Chunk it up, baby. I want it to be borderline stew. Yeah, you got yourself a stew.
Starting point is 00:04:17 You got yourself a stew there. But I want it to be just before you say that. That's a busy soup. Yeah. A busy soup. A busy soup. That's what I want. One more chunk and it's a stew. One more chunk. It's officially a stew. Yeah. A busy soup. A busy soup. That's what I want. One more chunk and it's a stew.
Starting point is 00:04:26 One more chunk. It's officially a stew. But just like one chunk off a stew. That's what I want. But, uh... Like, I used to love the smooth chicken one from Covent Garden. And now, no. Feels like I'm having a carton of milk. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:40 Not interested. Sure. I think it's dairy. I think I don't want dairy in soup anymore. Yeah? Unless I'm adding my own dairy. The think I don't want dairy in soup anymore. Yeah. Unless I'm adding my own dairy. The cream of tomato Heinz, still the daddy, really. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:50 With so much cheddar grated into it that it almost becomes tomato fondue. Wow. That's what I got on a hangover. That's my hangover. Is it? Yeah, yeah. That's your hangover food? I bought this Like ghost chilli Sauce
Starting point is 00:05:05 From Liberties Yeah The Bosch's sauce I could find Yeah And I have I use two drops Per bowl of soup
Starting point is 00:05:13 And that's all you can have Otherwise it I get hiccups So you do that for your hangover Yeah Lovely Thank you Soup chat
Starting point is 00:05:21 Good soup chat At the top there Always good to You know I don't think the listeners will ever learn everything about us food wise
Starting point is 00:05:27 there's always things to learn and we're always developing we're always changing as people yeah so one of the things I'm looking forward to eating in Disneyland
Starting point is 00:05:35 is the soup there's a soup from one certain place that we're going to I can't remember what it's called now are you worried about Disneyland
Starting point is 00:05:43 that you're going to be so full that you're not going to enjoy the rides I won't go on the rides i'll just watch my girlfriend on the rides and i'll eat all the food that's not true is it no no i'm going to go on the right yeah the rides are brilliant yeah yeah i'm gonna love going on the rides but also i was quite excited about the thing you know we booked in all our food places now yeah so that's so that's why yeah we booked in our meals in advance. Benito's nodding. Oh, you're not talking about the things you buy from stalls on the way around? No, no.
Starting point is 00:06:10 Those places. The restaurants. So I'm currently looking at things to buy in stalls on the way around, because that'll be extra little things. But we've booked in our restaurant meals and where we're going for that. And, you know, my girlfriend's watched loads of videos on YouTube. These are the best ones in Disney. She's collected all of that information,
Starting point is 00:06:28 got what the very best ones are from all those different videos, different opinions, and they're the ones that we go to. And what's the one you're most looking forward to? What's the one to go to? Well, we're going to Ohana for breakfast in the Polynesian part of the park. Everyone says you've got to go there, get the Bloody Mary flight
Starting point is 00:06:48 that has like a tequila Bloody Mary. Sounds like one of the rides. Vodka Bloody Mary and a whiskey Bloody Mary and also get the sticky bread there. So you're going to get those things there. But I think the one I'm most looking forward to is the one that has the soup in it, the busy soup in it. Yeah. And it has gator bites and it has fried chicken yeah um sort of
Starting point is 00:07:09 new orleans style one yeah it looks really good yeah and it's called chef something's something great that's what i'm looking forward to the most yes chef art smith's homecoming that's what i'm most excited about that yeah everything on that menu looked great. And the man who was eating it in the YouTube video that I watched was delightful. I know that on Parenting Hell, one of our rival podcasts, Rob Beckett did a whole episode
Starting point is 00:07:34 talking to Josh about his experience when he went to Disney World with the kids. Yeah, but that's the mistake. Yeah. He went to Disney with kids. Yeah, and his food portion of that podcast it was a great podcast episode I'll give
Starting point is 00:07:46 credit where it's due. But the food portion was just like I'll just eat when we could and whatever. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:51 And I never went to like Jungle Cafe or whatever it's called where there's like an animatronic gorilla. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:56 That sounds fun. But we can do like our rival one to Parent in Hell where we do an episode all about the Disney food. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:03 Or most likely what will happen is it will just come up in conversation. Yeah, naturally. And we'll sprinkle it through maybe 60 or 70 episodes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:11 Anyway. So without further ado, this is the off-menu menu of Babatunde a la Chez. Welcome, Babatunde, to the Dream Restaurant. Yes, thank you for having me, man. Welcome, Babatunde Aleche, to the Dream Restaurant. We'll be at Spendiva sometime.
Starting point is 00:08:38 Yeah, man. I'm glad to be here, bro. Trust me. Glad to have you. We probably should start by thanking you for wearing our merch on television. Come on. what i'm wearing it now come on let's go one of the new ones we don't even know you know what can i say this yeah when i when i got them because like i get a lot of stuff from percival yeah so i've like going through all the shirts and i'm thinking um i've been your podcast i'm thinking oh snap it's that man i love this
Starting point is 00:09:05 show and then when you were at the show i didn't even real i didn't even clock it was you bro that was so funny because i'm looking at you i'm thinking where i know your face from and you decide where you get that t-shirt yeah yeah and i kept saying why why you keep asking me about my t-shirt bro like go away like you know yeah we did a gig together yeah you walked in wearing the t-shirt i was like and we'd never met before. Never. So I was like, this is funny. This is a funny guy because he's walking in.
Starting point is 00:09:31 He knows that that's my podcast. And he's doing that to like, you know, he's having a laugh at me straight away. So I was like, you wearing that T-shirt. And you were like, yeah, yeah, I got it from Percival. And I was like, yeah, but, you know, look at the ice cream. You're like, yeah, yeah, yeah, it from percival like really like yeah but i was like i was like yeah but but you know look at the ice cream you're like yeah yeah yeah it's cool i like it i was like uh this guy like that's my face on that ice cream you're like oh yeah oh yeah i've got this i've got like a t-shirt and a hoodie i was like
Starting point is 00:10:03 do you know the podcast? It was funny. And I was like, I texted Benito, like, I think we've got to book this guy because I'm going to figure out what's going on. We've got to get to the bottom of this.
Starting point is 00:10:15 And then you warned me, don't make fun of you on the podcast. No, bruv, it's all fair game, bruv. Do your thing. Do your thing, bruv. Was there a, there was a message that said,
Starting point is 00:10:24 oh, come on, but don't make fun of me it's a running joke all night I've told you come over to me you better not take the piss on your podcast someone told me
Starting point is 00:10:32 you wore you wore an off menu t-shirt on Gogglebox I did exciting I did that was the green one yeah
Starting point is 00:10:40 you know what I mean see that's what I'm saying bro first of all they hooked me up yeah yeah how was Gogglebox oh bro we just wrapped on Saturday me and Mo Yeah. You know what I mean? See, so I'm saying, bro, Percival, they hooked me up, bro. I love Percival. Yeah, yeah. How was Gogglebox? Oh, bro, we just wrapped on Saturday, me and Mo.
Starting point is 00:10:50 Yeah. Absolutely fantastic, man. Yeah. Yeah, I love that show. Hopefully we get another season under our belt, you know what I mean? So that'll be like five seasons? I love it so much.
Starting point is 00:11:01 You two are so great together on it. Oh, thank you, man. So good. And I love that every time James brings up the merch now, every single time you have to let us know you got it for free as well just yet absolute respect to you james but i did get that for free i'm not paying for that no no shout out to personal like i said they always they hook me up all the time yeah this is what i mean you keep saying that to remind us that you absolutely did not think right yeah there's no way i'll be paying for that shit. No, no.
Starting point is 00:11:26 Bro, that ice cream one, all my days, that is my favourite one, bro. Good one, right? Yeah, bro. I love it. But you know our faces are in the ice cream. Yes.
Starting point is 00:11:34 I know now. I know now. What if we did a Gogglebox podcast edition? You think that would work? You and Mo listening to some podcasts, maybe listening to this episode of the Off Menu podcast if we could do it together That might be a thing
Starting point is 00:11:48 Yeah I mean I don't know how that would work like just me trying to imagine it in my mind right now we'd listen to a snippet of something
Starting point is 00:11:54 and then we'd respond to it maybe It doesn't feel as natural does it? Because like you do sit around watching TV with your mates but you wouldn't all sit around
Starting point is 00:12:01 listening to a podcast Yeah But we give them hell on Gogglebots because you can imagine two comedians we talk so much but you wouldn't all sit around listening to a podcast, right? Yeah. But we give them hell on Gogglebox because you can imagine two comedians, we talk so much to the point where sometimes the director's just like, okay, we still have to watch this show. No more jokes, please.
Starting point is 00:12:16 You know what I mean? No, I love hanging around with Mo, man. But yeah, hopefully we get to do some more stuff. Do you have to watch the whole show? Is it snippets? So it'll be like half an hour, maybe 20 minutes. Yeah. The best bits.
Starting point is 00:12:27 Because I often think about that. Everyone on Gogglebox does a really good job of looking like they've been fully invested in a whole season of something. No, but you get into it. That's the thing. You do still get into it, even though it's like 20 minutes.
Starting point is 00:12:37 Because like, especially with some of the stuff that you've never seen before, or the scary stuff, because you know me, well, if you've watched the show, I hate scary movies. So so anything scary i'm already invested because it's just like i don't want to be scared so i'm like intense like yeah so but yeah it's only like 20 30 minutes of each thing have you always been easily scared like by movies yeah yeah i grew up in tottenham so you can imagine i'm
Starting point is 00:13:01 traumatized you know i I'm saying like anything scary in real life or on movies not for me yeah what's the scariest movie you've ever seen that scared you the most
Starting point is 00:13:12 Exorcist that you can never watch again yeah Exorcist you went so serious when you said the Exorcist yeah yeah
Starting point is 00:13:17 I did didn't I I could have relived it right then and there really smiling and then suddenly no there's the Exorcist have you guys seen I've never watched it because I like
Starting point is 00:13:26 scary films but I almost presume that I would be too scared so I've never seen it it's phenomenal I love it I love the exorcist it's an incredible film but it is scary
Starting point is 00:13:39 you know the bit bruv when she's in the bed bruv and the voices and the vomit and then the bit where she's like hovering and oh my God, I don't even want to believe it. Scariest bit for me when she comes down the stairs backwards
Starting point is 00:13:53 like a big crab. I didn't want to be reminded about that. I think that might be the edit. That might be like a director's cut. Yeah, that might be. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That is a disgusting film. By the way.
Starting point is 00:14:04 Don't watch it if you haven't watched it bro Well I know a lot of the bits already You know I know the spewing And going around like a crab Crucifix Oh yes Oh my god
Starting point is 00:14:16 No Oh my gosh Oh my gosh That bit is disgusting Yeah Sorry I hate scary movies bro Yeah And it's not like a game man Oh my gosh, that bit is disgusting. Sorry, sorry. I hate scary movies, bro.
Starting point is 00:14:29 And it's not like a game, man. I've read the book as well. Why did you do that? I love it. What's wrong with you? I like scary movies, I like scary books. And I get scared really easily as well. Like, I watched Haunting of Hill House, a TV series. I recommended it to Ed because I knew he would like it.
Starting point is 00:14:43 And then he was watching it next to me on the plane when we were going on a trip together. Why am I laughing already? And he kept on, I would be looking because I'd know there's a scary bit coming up. So I'd like look side eye to his screen
Starting point is 00:14:55 and you could just see him. He'd have to keep pausing it because he'd get too scared. He'd have to give himself little breathers. He'd be like that. And there was bits like in that in that tv system you should never watch it i will never watch it it would be too much for you what is
Starting point is 00:15:10 that film i know this is about like this podcast about food but we're talking about film at the moment what is that film where um the camera is just focused on the bedroom yeah what's that one now is that what it's called no no no no I think you're talking about Exorcist again. No. And it's like a recording. Okay. No, no, no. Paranormal Activity.
Starting point is 00:15:33 Thank you. Okay, Paranormal Activity. I was at my friend's house. Yeah. In Tottenham. You've gone really serious. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Dude, this is what happened.
Starting point is 00:15:40 So we were like, yeah, let's watch it. Let's watch Paranormal Activity. I'm just like, bro, I don't want to watch it. He's just like, bruv, man, trust me, man. Let's just watch it. We put it in. We're watching it now. 15 minutes into it, we ran out the flat.
Starting point is 00:15:54 You need to understand, nothing happened in the film. There wasn't anything scary about to happen. But we just got so scared that something scary was going to happen. And we ran. We left the door, the house door open, everything. We ran down the estate. And then we were like, oh, snap, we've got to go back. Turn off the film and lock the door.
Starting point is 00:16:14 And it was like, who's going to do it? It was like, there's both of us. And so we spent another half an hour. This is no joke. I can call my friend Neil now and he will confirm this. We spent another half an hour arguing about who's going to go to the house and turn the film off.
Starting point is 00:16:27 That's the scariest film I've watched. At best believe, nothing happened in the first place. You're going to turn the film and then leave the flat and lock the door. That was the plan.
Starting point is 00:16:38 No, we just ran. Both of us at the same time. Gone. Belted. How old were you? Must have been like Early 20s Yeah
Starting point is 00:16:46 Fully grown adult Yeah So this is where you guys Start taking the piss No no no This is where we love it I do understand it I absolutely understand it
Starting point is 00:16:56 Yeah yeah yeah What about that There's a bit in the Exodus Where they've spliced in A picture of the demon It's just for a second Why do you remember this stuff? Because that really scared me. I had to
Starting point is 00:17:05 rewind that and pause it and find the frame where you can just see the picture. Why? Why would you do that? I love it. I love horror. Bruv, you're mad. I'm scared to know what kind of food you like now, bruv. He's scared. Demon sick.
Starting point is 00:17:24 Now, we always start with still or sparkling water. Do you have a preference? You know what? Yeah. Cold sparkling water hits differently. Yeah. To me, that sounds like quite, you know, now we've talked about horror films.
Starting point is 00:17:37 Cold sparkling water is a bit like a ghost. Don't do that. Because now I'm not going to drink sparkling water. Why did you do that for me? Why did you mess that up? I was enjoying my middle class going to drink sparkling water. Why did you do that for me? Why did you mess that up? I was enjoying my middle class life, drinking sparkling water.
Starting point is 00:17:51 Now I'm going back to still. Why would you do that, bro? I'm just saying, cold sparkling water's got a bit of a ghostly feel to it. What I really like about that is that's such a weird thing to say, that it's like a ghost. And you immediately were like, oh, fuck, I know what you mean.
Starting point is 00:18:03 You've ruined it for me. Man has, bro. He has. I can't drink that now. But no, like, oh, fuck, I know what you mean. You've ruined it for me. Man has, bro. He has. I can't drink that now. But no, like, preference, yeah. Cold sparkling water. On a hot day or just in any weather? On a hot day.
Starting point is 00:18:14 No, no, a hot day has to be hot. But it has to be cold. You know when it's cold cold, like, crisp. Woo! Yeah, bro. How bubbly do you want it? I'm not aggressive bubbles.
Starting point is 00:18:24 Not like burn my throat bubbles, but bubbly enough. Yeah. Just bubbly do you want it? I'm not aggressive bubbles Not like burn my throat bubbles But bubbly enough Yeah Just bubbly enough Bubbly enough Yeah I know what you mean Yeah You want anything in there?
Starting point is 00:18:33 You want any slices of fruit? Nah bro Ice cubes Nah ice cubes yeah maybe But yeah if it ain't as cold as I want it to be But no I don't need no cucumbers and all them That's dead bruv I ain't drinking gin and tonic.
Starting point is 00:18:46 And even if I am drinking a gin and tonic, get that cucumber out of here, bruv. Why don't you like it? I don't know, man. It just makes my cup look weird, bruv. So it's nothing to do with the taste? The taste is fantastic. I can't be like sipping on a GMT or something
Starting point is 00:19:01 and all my friends from Tottenham come round, hey, blood, what's that? Nothing, bruv, nothing, nothing, nothing, because it's my friends from Tottenham come round hey blood what's that nothing bruv nothing nothing nothing because it's my friends it's my white friends drink so you don't want to embarrass yourself
Starting point is 00:19:12 in front of your friends from Tottenham one of whom you watch Paranormal Activity and then have to run out of the flat you'll act all tough about them
Starting point is 00:19:21 yeah yeah you know what I mean have a cucumber in your drink but I will say this, though. Like, with, like, you know, the cucumbers and stuff, my sister has definitely educated me on, like, you know, like, G&Ts and stuff. I never used to really be a fan of that.
Starting point is 00:19:34 But she was, like, she would put, like, all, like, rosemary and all, like, blueberries and all this stuff. Yeah. And I'd be like, what, people drink it like this? Like, is that what they're supposed to do? She's like, yeah. I was like, okay, cool. So now I'm fully invested. But this is that what they're supposed to do she's like yeah I was like okay cool
Starting point is 00:19:45 so now I'm fully invested but you will not catch me on road or in a pub like at home I'm going in you're looking at the door but you're inside
Starting point is 00:19:56 the flat this time yeah so no one can see you do you want ice cubes crushed ice in my sparkling water ooh ooh
Starting point is 00:20:04 crushed ice yeah now what's the difference actually you really got excited there by the difference because you know the crushed ice just gives you that slushy appeal kind of thing yeah yeah yeah bro you know your drinks yeah thank you not enough people point that out yeah that's true not enough people give me credit where it's due i love crushed ice as well because it it keeps it cold but it doesn't take up too much real estate in the glass. I'm using that. Real estate in the glass.
Starting point is 00:20:33 Yeah, I like that. Pop it up as all bread! Pop it up as all bread, Babatunde! Pop it up as all bread! Why are you shouting at me? Bread. Is this what happens?
Starting point is 00:20:43 You just shout at people. He does. You're lucky I didn't it's because I've been taking cold baths so I don't get scared now you know what I'm saying because that calms down
Starting point is 00:20:50 oh man if I remembered I literally forgot already the Babatunde gets scared easy yeah I should have thought I can really get him with poppadoms or bread
Starting point is 00:20:59 but I thought well he's not I'm not going to be surprised with that because he's a fan of the podcast yeah because he wears the merch but then I forgot he doesn't know his podcast so why have I done that what would you with that because he's a fan of the podcast. Yeah. Because he wears the merch. But then I forgot, he doesn't know
Starting point is 00:21:06 his podcast. So why have I done that? What would you have done if he'd just run out the room? Bro, like if this was a month ago, not taking like cold baths and stuff like that, yeah I would have jaded. So you take cold baths now. Yeah. Have you tried watching The Exorcist, now you take cold baths?
Starting point is 00:21:21 Nope, ain't happening. I still believe in Jesus, so that's not happening bro. Does The Exorcist now you take cold baths? Nope, ain't happening. I still believe in Jesus, so that's not happening, bro. Does The Exorcist not confirm your belief in Jesus? Because, like, it's... The Catholic Church actually, like, back The Exorcist as a film.
Starting point is 00:21:35 What? Yeah. Because it says that Jesus exists. Like, it's actually a pro-religion film. Okay. It's got the baddies in it.
Starting point is 00:21:43 Yeah. I've never been to a... I've never seen someone be exercised. I've been to... Well, that's a lie, Tunde. I have, but not like that. Yeah. I have some...
Starting point is 00:21:57 I've seen someone... Because I go to church. I have seen someone... I used to go to a Pentecostal church. You see all types of stuff there. I have seen a demon manifest in someone. But not like that. Not like that.
Starting point is 00:22:09 The girl pushed the preacher and he flew. Wow. But she had a demon in there. So they said. Yeah. She pushed him. She pushed the crap out of him. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:20 And I was like, I was at the back of the church. I was like, you got pushed. I was like, you better call on Jesus, bro. She's strong, bro. That's probably just what he wanted to hear at that moment. He's flying across the room, just being pushed by a demon.
Starting point is 00:22:41 Surely someone from my congregation will come and help me. Damn, you got pushed. let me get this straight when you watch an actual horror film you have to run out of the flat and then argue about who goes back in the flat to turn it off but you've been in a room with a literal demon and all you thought was in a church and you thought whoa i got pushed and you didn't think like you watch it like everyone watches a horror film yeah if i saw that in a film i'd be like damn he got pushed in real life i've been running out man because it's church like jesus you know what i mean she's still the demon in the church yeah but like the preacher is gonna like be like do his thing in it like yeah he's been he's protected
Starting point is 00:23:22 i mean if she turned around and set her sights on me, I'm gone. Didn't seem too worried about bringing attention to yourself, though. Nah, nah, nah. Well, oh yeah, yeah, I did shout out. But at the same time, bro, this really happened, not even a joke. This girl was going crazy. She shook her head and then she just went boom. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:41 And he was on the other end of the room. He flew. Wow. But were you not scared then? She's going us all no not really because like i said like the preacher he's like he's got jesus power but he's been pushed for miles i mean that's his fault bro you know you shouldn't have pissed the demon off but now you take cold baths yes you feel a little bit calmer yeah calm down your anxiety yeah do you go with um ice cubes or crushed ice in your cold bath oh yeah how much i've never done i've done i just do cold water i've never done like ice is it like a wim hof thing what's a wim hof wim hof is that guy
Starting point is 00:24:17 who takes cold baths and cold showers that's that ice man right yeah yeah no no no i just take cold yeah yeah how did you because i've tried that and i'm like you watching a scary film when that happens to me as soon as i'm like i can't stay under the water yeah like i try to when i'm having the cold shower but i can't physically make myself stay under there you gotta breathe control your uh your breathing ah yeah so every time so you gradually do it gradually turn the um water colder and colder and colder. And each time that you feel the cold, just control your breath, control your breath until it's really like freezing cold.
Starting point is 00:24:51 And then by that time you'll be used to it a little bit, but you still have to like control your heart rate because you don't want to go into shock. Wow. And what are the benefits of it? Like it's good for your skin, obviously good to wake you up. Yeah. So I have cold showers in the morning.
Starting point is 00:25:07 Wakes you up. It's better than having a coffee. But it does have a benefit in terms of... Because your body does want to naturally shock itself. It controls your anxiety and your panic. Things like that. Lovely. Try it, go back to it.
Starting point is 00:25:23 Might go back to it. Yeah, every morning every morning i know control your breathing because all i do obviously hot though all i've ever done is just like start cold and try to go under it immediately no don't do that no yeah you shock you you shock yourself what kind of bread we talking what kind of bread would you like you know i'm a fan of um ciabatta warm oh yeah toasted yes yeah you've got to get it crunchy on the outside yeah and it's still like soft and steamy in the middle are you dipping it in anything are you putting butter on it butter definitely or or i like pate oh yeah yeah yeah i didn't before like i said i'm
Starting point is 00:25:59 working class i'm now middle class i didn't know nothing about no damn pate bruv and chutney and all this stuff that all these posh people be eating yeah then i tasted i was just like swear down this way you guys been hiding from us all this time i've been eating chicken and chips all this time you guys be eating pate and be like what's this chicken liver wow okay yeah i'd say pate i'll go with chicken liver pate yeah man that's not i think it's the first time someone's utilized the pate yeah the pate loophole in the bread yeah's not... I think it's the first time someone's utilised the pate. Yeah. The pate loophole in the bread. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:27 That's good. Yeah, we haven't had that. But this might be the first pate. Come on, man. Man's setting trends. I love chicken liver pate. Whenever... If that's on a menu, that or chicken liver parfait
Starting point is 00:26:39 or whatever the difference is, just the... Oh, it's so good. Always go for it. Creamier the better. Marks and Spencerencers do one with truffle on top
Starting point is 00:26:47 what are you mad have you tasted truffle have you tasted brother oh my that sentence got more middle class
Starting point is 00:26:58 with every word no this is what I'm saying brother see now Marks and Spencers truffle no bro I'm embracing my middle classness. Before, I used to deny it and be like,
Starting point is 00:27:06 oh, no, no, no, no, no, man. I'll still eat chicken and chips. Hell no. I don't eat that crap no more. Bro, I am in Marks and Spencer's like every other day, bro. Yeah. Are you crazy? Truffle, bro.
Starting point is 00:27:17 Oh, Mike, don't piss me off. Oh, man. I mean, what the listener couldn't see was that when you got really excited about the Marks & Spencer's truffle pate, you did, like, a full, like, body percussion. Like, just... Like you're trying to get a demon out of yourself.
Starting point is 00:27:34 Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, bro, I really get excited about my food, bro. Yeah. Is that the pate you would like, then? The Marks & Spencer's truffle pate? So it's like chicken liver, but at the top, it's got, like, a layer of, like... I don't's truffle pate so it's like chicken liver but at the top it's got like a layer of like I don't know
Starting point is 00:27:47 what you want to call it like truffle not cream or whatever the hell it is like truffle pate yeah it's got a layer on top sounds great
Starting point is 00:27:54 don't piss me off it is so nice yeah you can have that it's the dream restaurant you can have it how often are you buying the chicken liver pate
Starting point is 00:28:03 with truffle not that much that's a special occasion that's what yeah that's yeah it's not every other day nah bruv bro have you shopped at martin's business no jesus christ it is expensive yeah man so you're okay with having that but you're not yet at a point where you'll have cucumber in a drink that's true why are you baiting me out I don't like the way you're just dissecting all my inconsistencies I'm just trying to get
Starting point is 00:28:27 what the difference is what would your friends from Tottenham say about the pate they would laugh they would oh my god but would you say to them
Starting point is 00:28:34 I'd be like yo try this yeah have a bite see what you think chicken liver bruv have a bite you know you just slide it across
Starting point is 00:28:40 and you just watch their reaction and when they're like see I told you it, I told you, bro. I told you. So your dream starter, your starter now, your meal proper, have you got a specific dream starter?
Starting point is 00:28:56 I love a prawn. You know when they do the battered prawn? I think it's like prawn tempura. Is that the right? Yeah. With like the sweet chilli sauce. Don't get me mad. All my days.
Starting point is 00:29:09 Wow. Do you guys like seafood? Yeah. Love it. Is there any specific place that you've had the prawn tempura with sweet chilli that you think is the best one you've ever had? I went to an Italian restaurant not too long ago where we normally go. Papagoni's in Stroudgate.
Starting point is 00:29:27 Oh, Benito's. Benito's. You know that? Come on, bro. Say it with your chest, bro. Yeah, so Papagoni's, their starters are fantastic. Their whole menu is fantastic. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:38 But their starters are crazy off the hook. Yeah, sorry. I get real... That's good. That's what we like. yeah yeah yeah so you want it from papagoni's the prawn tempura absolutely but it's not temporary this one's like a more of like a like a breaded type of batter yeah i know the tempura is like the japanese type of thing but this one deep fried yeah yeah what else is on the Papagoni starter menu that you really like?
Starting point is 00:30:05 I don't know. I don't be adventurous like that because I'm not like a big cheese fan. Ah, okay. So a lot of their stuff has got like cheese. I do like mozzarella. One of the other things
Starting point is 00:30:15 I do like, I don't know what it's called. My wife orders it. It's like a big, deep fried ball with mozzarella in it. And then they'll put like some sauce on top.
Starting point is 00:30:25 That's nice. Yeah. That's as far as I'd go. I don't know what it's called.'ll put like some sauce on top. That's nice. Yeah. That's as far as I'd go. I don't know what it's called. Whoever's listening there, you know what it's called, then you know what it's called. I don't know what the hell the thing is,
Starting point is 00:30:32 but it's damn nice. Yeah. Other than that, I'm sticking with my prawn thing. That's it. I met your wife at the gig. Yeah. And you went on and did a bunch of material.
Starting point is 00:30:44 About my wife about your wife and she was sitting next to me in the wings absolutely laughing her head off absolutely loved it everyone else was like oh man I wonder how I wonder how she's responding
Starting point is 00:30:56 oh she's having the night of her life she was like I love this bit this is so funny yeah yeah yeah because like me and my wife we banter man yeah yeah yeah like you know marriage life is full of ups and downs this bit, this is so funny. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, because like me and my wife, we banter, man. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:05 Yeah, yeah. Like, you know, marriage life is full of ups and downs and you've got to like learn to laugh at that, you know what I'm saying? After you get over it and stuff like that. You know what I mean? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:15 So that's where it comes from. How long have you been married for now? It's going to be seven years this September. Ed's coming up to his one year anniversary. Madlife. Come on, bro. In September as well. Come on, bro. Yeah. as well. Come on, bro.
Starting point is 00:31:25 September boys. I don't know what that was, but let's go. September boys. Yeah, bro. Congrats, man. Thank you very much. Yeah. Going alright so far, I think. Yeah, you loving it? Yeah. It's good, isn't it? Yeah. Get married, bro. No way. I'm never getting married. Why? Because it seems stupid.
Starting point is 00:31:42 Okay. Wow. Just, you know, just. I'm in a lovely relationship, very much in love, but I don't understand. You know what it is? I just feel like, I say this, with marriage, it's just kind of like the, almost like the security of this, both of you knowing that I've got you for life and anything that we share at this moment whether it be kids or
Starting point is 00:32:07 you know finances anything happens to either one of us you're good for the rest of your life because you carry my name my children carry my name and I'm giving I know that can happen outside like you don't have to be married to have all of that yeah but I just I don't know the wedding thing yeah yeah man it's banging the wedding oh man. I was drunk as hell, bro. Yeah. Yeah, man. Yeah. What food did you have at your wedding?
Starting point is 00:32:30 Oh, yeah. So we had a mixture of West Indian and African Nigerian, my heritage. We had a mixture of the two. And so, yeah, that was really, really nice. And, you know, people from where I'm from, North London, they really like Nigerian food. And obviously West Indian food, like, is just banging. So, yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:53 Well, I mean, we've had this conversation on the podcast a few times. Now you've brought up Nigerian food. A few people on the podcast have come on. Don't do it. I know what you're going to ask. I know what you're going to ask. I know what you're going to ask. Go on. Tread carefully. But a few people come on the podcast and choose for their dream menu
Starting point is 00:33:12 jollof rice. Yeah, okay. And we've had some people choose. Yeah, okay. Tread carefully. Nigerian and some people choose Ghanaian. You're talking to a Nigerian, bro. See, I knew where you were going with this. There is only one jollof and that is Nigerian Jell-Off. Do you understand?
Starting point is 00:33:27 So all that Ghanaian stuff. One zoo said Sierra Leone, I think, was better, right? The zoo is out of this conversation. Big zoo, listen, Jell-Off doesn't even come from your country. They don't make it the way Ghanaians and Nigerians make it. But Ghanaians, their one is whack. Nigerian party jell-o, no one can chat to us. And that is a fact.
Starting point is 00:33:51 Everybody that tastes, because there's two types of jell-o from Nigeria. You've got normal, everyday standard jell-o fries, and then you've got party jell-o fries. Party jell-o fries is smoked jell-o fries. So they smoke the rice yeah so it has that barbecue kind of smoky flavor to it that sounds amazing that is crazy no other country does it like nigerians do it and everyone will tell you they'll be like oh yeah go on in jell-o fries oh man it's nice and then they taste party jell-o fries and they're just like winner right do you
Starting point is 00:34:24 understand know that so we haven't had that before on the podcast we haven't had people point out the party we've not heard about the party jollof rice no
Starting point is 00:34:31 so that might be a bit of a game changer in the conversation who picked the Ghanaian jollof rice did Sophie pick it Sophie Duker right I think so
Starting point is 00:34:38 I think that Selassie maybe chose it yeah as well where are they from Selassie's from Bake Off oh him what did Lolly pick
Starting point is 00:34:47 come on Lolly Solerio zone doesn't even enter the competition it is literally between Nigerians and Ghanaians let's be real
Starting point is 00:34:58 that's where the competition I don't know what like the English equivalent to like the Jell-O fries what would that be what's like the Jell-O fries is I mean not
Starting point is 00:35:06 what would that be what's like what do Welsh people in Scottish breakfast oh yeah the breakfast you can't go to Scotland or Wales
Starting point is 00:35:13 and call it an English breakfast because they kick off yeah they do but the difference is it's the same thing I've had a Scottish traditional breakfast I was fuming
Starting point is 00:35:22 yeah I was like what is because they have this like potato type of thing I think I might prefer The Scottish one Yeah smoking I think
Starting point is 00:35:29 The Scottish breakfast Is my favourite When did you start smoking When Just tell me now When did you give When did you take up Smoking crack
Starting point is 00:35:38 I need to know bruv English breakfast Is the one Are you crazy bruv Bro Let's get into this bruv What do you have On your plate bruv What's your What's your English breakfast is the one are you crazy bro bro let's get into this bro what do you have
Starting point is 00:35:47 on your plate bro what's your what's your English breakfast plate English breakfast plate go on they'll be like scrambled eggs
Starting point is 00:35:52 alright not sunny side up yeah I think you're already you're already yeah you started off bad scrambled
Starting point is 00:35:58 what are you five scrambled eggs I like a lot of buttery yellow it's gotta be fried eggs Fried eggs Bro sunny side up Get that yolk going bro Scrambled eggs Scrambled
Starting point is 00:36:12 You are A toddler Carry on Bacon Yeah yeah The better Yeah Okay
Starting point is 00:36:23 Sausages Yes The crispy bacon thing Is a bit American for me Oh yeah I agree with you I like a thick bit of Salmon
Starting point is 00:36:30 Let's go Let's go I like him already He's winning bro He's doing well He's winning He's doing well Yeah got you
Starting point is 00:36:41 Got you Okay Sausage right Sausage Two Yes Two sausages Yeah, got you, got you. Okay. Sausage, right? Sausage. Two? Yes. Two sausages.
Starting point is 00:36:50 That was a side belief. Is that okay? Yeah, well... It feels like that bit in Indiana Jones where you're trying to walk across the board. Yeah, yeah. Every other move I've got now feels precarious. No toast? I would have fried bread over toast.
Starting point is 00:37:03 Get the hell out of here. This guy. Fried bread over toast. Get the hell out of here. This guy. Fried bread. Yeah. Fried. Fried bread. I like fried bread over toast. If I'm going to do the breakfast and go full all in, like, you know.
Starting point is 00:37:15 You're not going all in if you're having fried bread. I like fried bread, but I wouldn't have it anymore. It would kill me for the rest of the day. Yeah. You like, well, for your English breakfast, you like fried bread. I do, but I wouldn't have it now because it would kill me for the rest of the day. Yeah. You like, well, for your English breakfast, you like fried bread. I do, but I wouldn't have it now because it would make me feel sick. Where did you get you guys from? I'm more freaking white than both of you.
Starting point is 00:37:32 My name is Babaton. You got to go toast. The only thing I don't do is the black pudding. I love black pudding. I like black pudding, but I knew that if I said that, it was going to get me more bad points because that's what pigs blood lie that bro
Starting point is 00:37:49 I would always skip tomato I don't like the tomato I'm a fan of the tomatoes it's alright for me the mushrooms as well I love mushrooms I always go mushrooms and there's something missing
Starting point is 00:38:02 are you a beans boy? I'm a beans boy. I'm not a beans boy. I'm a beans boy. I'm a beans boy. I'm disappointed. Okay, yeah, man. Alright.
Starting point is 00:38:13 That's one point for you. Yeah. And hash browns? Oh, I love hash browns. Yeah, I can take How did I even forget that?
Starting point is 00:38:20 They're the best bit. Hash browns are my favourite. Take them or leave them. Hash browns are my favourite bit of the fried breakfast. I can't even believe I forgot that.
Starting point is 00:38:26 Scrambled egg. Don't try and do that again. What are you dipping the hash browns in? I'm not dipping them in anything. They're delicious as they are. No. Ketchup? Or do you guys go with the brown sauce?
Starting point is 00:38:36 I'm a brown sauce guy. I'm probably going to combine the hash browns with the beans. Yeah, you have to. At one point, everything just gets smeared around the plate yeah that's the best bit where you mop up the plate with the bread or the hash browns and oh my days you get the haggis yeah and the square sausage the what haggis what is haggis break it down to me please haggis do you see when i realised what he was saying? He just... What the hell is haggis? Haggis is like...
Starting point is 00:39:07 It's like offal and oats and all of this sort of stuff, like, minced up, and then they cook it in a... Well, it's traditionally cooked in a sheep's stomach. Dead. No. No way. Not happening. That's not happening, bro.
Starting point is 00:39:21 Like, shout-outs to all my Highlanders and them, man, up there. Yeah. You know, on the cliffs and stuff in Scotland you know what I'm saying them man shout out to them
Starting point is 00:39:31 you know what I'm saying because you've got to be strong and to eat haggis and you know what I'm saying wear a kilt and all them things there but no stick to the bagpipes
Starting point is 00:39:39 leave the English breakfast alone or the Scottish breakfast whatever you want to call it and all my Welsh people what do they what do they have on theirs I think it's quite similar to an English breakfast alone or the Scottish breakfast whatever you want to call it yeah and all my Welsh people what do they what do they have on theirs I think it's quite similar
Starting point is 00:39:48 to an English breakfast actually yeah I get strung up for saying that but no I feel like they eat angel dust or something because like Welsh people
Starting point is 00:39:54 they're just they just remind me of like little fairies and stuff like you know when you think of like medieval England and like fairy tales
Starting point is 00:40:03 you've got the elves they base that off of Welsh people you know what I'm saying you know what I mean I love my Welsh people When you think of medieval England and fairy tales, you've got the elves. They base that off of Welsh people, you know what I'm saying? I love my Welsh people. I love their accent. Yeah, yeah. I love that. That's the best British accent for me.
Starting point is 00:40:17 I love the Welsh accent. I'd agree. I'd agree. It sounds like they're singing when they talk. It's beautiful. Can you do a Welsh accent? I can't. I was about to, but then I said, let me not embarrass myself. Would you rather
Starting point is 00:40:28 eat haggis or watch Exorcist again? You've got to do one of them. I ain't got to do nothing. That's a fair point from Babatunde. He doesn't have to do anything. Hypothetically, I'd rather eat haggis.
Starting point is 00:40:43 You'd rather eat the haggis than watch Exorcist again imagine a big plate having to eat a big plate of haggis while watching the Exorcist oh my god allow it sorry no
Starting point is 00:40:52 that's just no you have to take eat a big spoonful every time you're scared oh my god bruv I'd be stuffed man from the credits bruv like just from the
Starting point is 00:41:00 opening credits bruv I'd be screaming no way I used to think allow it meant Like yeah cool No Yeah because I heard people saying it
Starting point is 00:41:10 And I was like oh yeah because you're allowing it That sounds nice So when people said allow it I was like oh yeah yeah Where did you grow up? Kettering Northamptonshire It shows bruv Kettering Northamptonshire Northamptonshire Northamptonshire To be fair It shows, bruv.
Starting point is 00:41:26 Kettering, North Hampshire. North Hamptonshire. North Hamptonshire. Yeah, yeah. To be fair, Kettering's quite a working class town. Is it? But like, yeah, yeah. Okay, it sounds posh.
Starting point is 00:41:36 I don't know. Maybe people say allow it around there. But like, not when I was growing up. Yeah, allow it means like, lie that, bruv. Or you can say, so allow it is like, yeah, lie that, man. Don't bring that kind of energy near me. Or, allow me,
Starting point is 00:41:49 which is just like, ah, stop, man. Stop getting me. Stop teasing me kind of thing. So, yeah. Yeah. I first had it when,
Starting point is 00:41:57 I guess there were teenagers surrounding me on a train. Right. And they were just all saying, allow it, allow it. One was saying it to the other. He was saying, one of the guys was saying stuff about me.
Starting point is 00:42:09 And the leader kept saying to him, allow it. I was like, I mean, that sounds like he's, he's actually sticking up for me, this guy. Yeah, he was. But I thought he was saying, yeah, absolutely do that to this.
Starting point is 00:42:20 No, no. And I was like, well, what's going on? So I was very confused. They probably were trying to jack you. It was a weird situation. I think I've already talked about it on the podcast ages ago. One of them was looking at me and he was
Starting point is 00:42:31 Yeah, they're probably going to jack you. They were kind of going like, what are you looking at? And then I just was honest with them and said, I'm finding this situation very scary. You're all scaring me quite a bit but you know what that would yeah people would would allow you they were a bit like oh okay yeah we didn't mean to say but you're
Starting point is 00:42:54 honest yeah to like gangsters they really do the minute you try and stick up for yourself yeah you meet trouble i was like this is really scary guys and they were like why are you scared i was like because there's like 10 of you and i'm on my own and like there's absolutely no way i'd stand a chance of this this is really scary what time was this in the evening last train home from last day from london to ketwin midnight or whatever it's been quite quite late they started going you live in london now yeah but the leader started going to everyone else i mean i live in london now to be honest this was when I was visiting home, like, last year. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:43:26 It's just like, you know, me in my 30s saying to a bunch of teenagers, guys, honestly, this is scary for me. Yeah, but... And they were like... He was eating a big bowl of scrambled egg on the train. Yeah. I was like, I'm trying to eat my scrambies. Jimmy trying to eat his scrambies over here.
Starting point is 00:43:43 How long have you been in London now? 10 years or something or like maybe longer than that yeah you've got to start developing a London attitude can't do it I live in Hertfordshire now
Starting point is 00:43:52 my London attitude doesn't work in a place like Hertfordshire it's too mean you know what I'm saying like what are you looking at like you know you can't be doing that
Starting point is 00:44:01 so I'm more relaxed but obviously once I come to London I already know what time it is I switch it on like depending on where I am
Starting point is 00:44:10 to understand you leave the patty back home yeah yeah yeah you can get anything you need with Uber Eats well almost
Starting point is 00:44:18 almost anything so no you can't get snowballs on Uber Eats but meatballs and mozzarella balls yes we can deliver that Uber Eats get almost meatballs and mozzarella balls, yes, we can deliver that.
Starting point is 00:44:25 Uber Eats, get almost, almost anything. Order now. Product availability may vary by region. See app for details. Main course, your dream main. You know what? I like a fusion Oxtail, Caribbean oxtail
Starting point is 00:44:48 With Nigerian Jollof rice I like a side of salad And coleslaw Some plantain So, is this party? This is party Jollof rice With Caribbean oxtail
Starting point is 00:45:04 Have you tasted oxtails? No Ohof. We're with Caribbean oxtail. Have you tasted oxtails? No. Oh my days! I've had oxtail before, yeah. You've had it? But Caribbean. But not Caribbean. Yeah, you guys need to.
Starting point is 00:45:13 Yeah. Yeah. I reckon you guys would really, really like it. I almost certainly would, yeah. It's very, it's a succulent meat. I don't know if the gamey is the word that they say. That's what I hear people say all the time. But it's, oh, man.
Starting point is 00:45:27 It's really slow cooked, right? Yeah. It's like butter, man. Oh, man, I'm getting hungry. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Is there a place that does this that's like the best place? Or is there like an occasion you've had it? Was the best time you had it?
Starting point is 00:45:39 My wife's cooking at home. Yeah, because you wouldn't be able to buy like jell-o fries at a Caribbean restaurant but obviously because of my wife you know and stuff like that like she cooks it quite a bit
Starting point is 00:45:50 yeah how often do you have an oxtail? oh not often it's gone up in price nowadays but back in the day we used to have it
Starting point is 00:45:57 quite a bit but nowadays probably like once every like three months really if that it's expensive now
Starting point is 00:46:04 which is mad that it's expensive now because the whole point of it was that you're taking the bits that are a little bit cheaper and then making like magic food but they caught on to it they caught they were like why are all these black people buying oxtails and stuff like that they caught on to it and so like they just bumped the price up so yeah that's why but it's yeah it's mad expensive and you know you get a hotel and, like, obviously you have to chop it up into, like, little bits and stuff. But, oh, my God, man, it's so nice.
Starting point is 00:46:30 I can't believe you guys haven't tried it. No, I've not tried it. It's good because you guys got to go to somewhere, a good place to actually have it. In London, you're probably looking at Brown Eagle's Caribbean restaurant. They're really good. There's probably others that I'm not aware of. So you got to party jello fries?
Starting point is 00:46:45 Yes. I don't want to pick this conversation up again, but like, you were saying with the regular Nigerian jello fries
Starting point is 00:46:53 and the Ghanaian jello fries, there's a bit of a, you know, rivalry. Well, maybe they would be on a level, you suggested earlier that they would be
Starting point is 00:47:02 on a level playing field. This is the first time I'm admitting this. Ghanaian jelloof Rice bangs. It's nice. Yeah, I write Ghanaians, relax yourself. Because they're probably like celebrating now. But it bangs.
Starting point is 00:47:14 It does. It absolutely bangs. So Ghanaian normal Jollof Rice tropes Nigerian normal Jollof Rice. But our party Jollof Rice is a different level. And does your wife make party jollof at home? No. Because I guess you've got to have like a smoker for that sort of thing. You do, you have to have a smoker.
Starting point is 00:47:31 She just makes normal jollof rice. Is there a party Ghanaian jollof rice? No. No, they ain't caught on to that technology. No, no, no, no. There's not. There's not. What if, I mean, only a matter of time, right? I mean, it mean only a matter of time right i mean it's only a
Starting point is 00:47:47 matter of time but they use basmati rice so i don't know if it would taste the same whereas nigerians use long grain so i don't know if the if the different rice gives a different taste once it's smoked because basmati already has like a flavor to it yeah so i don't know what that would taste like smoked i don't know you got kids as well haven't you i've got one son yeah is he uh into because when your wife makes this dish at home yeah a family a full family favorite yeah i mean he likes jollof rice yeah he's not a big fan of oxtail but he's five so he doesn't like he's not really yeah he likes scrambled egg and stuff yeah he likes oh that's low my son's still on like
Starting point is 00:48:31 you know fish fingers and chicken nuggets and that kind of stuff oh is that him I do love him I mean I'm dying
Starting point is 00:48:38 I don't often have fish fingers but James what's going on bro I had Covid recently and suddenly got a real hank often have fish fingers James what's going on bro I had Covid recently and suddenly got a real hankering for fish fingers you and my son will get along my girlfriend was like what do you want for lunch today
Starting point is 00:48:54 I was like I want a fish finger sandwich yo fish finger sandwich yeah alright fish fingers on their own come on bro fish fingers on their own babies fish finger sandwich adults yes yeah yeah i thought you were about to say fish fingers on their own like that's no i don't have the triggers on their own i haven't yeah potato smiley faces yeah no i don't i don't but let's not yo smiley faces bang though
Starting point is 00:49:22 sounds nice but i i only picked them off my son's plate. Oh yeah. Yeah, I do. You know when they're not looking, you just take one and stuff like that. It reminds me of school, man.
Starting point is 00:49:31 I love it, man. Yeah. I've been looking a lot on the internet lately for, I'm going to Disney World for the first time. Dope. Like this year. And I'm looking at a lot of the snacks that you can get there.
Starting point is 00:49:41 Right. But I really want the corn dog bites, where it's like. I do. I've never tasted it. No, corndog nuggets. So they're little bits of sausage wrapped in little bites of them.
Starting point is 00:49:50 I had a pretzel at Disneyland, which was filled with jalapeno and cheese and that cheese sauce. It was really fake and salty. It was so good. Have you had that one, Benita? Everyone talks about that one. That's the main one that gets recommended.
Starting point is 00:50:03 Have you guys had Cheetos Jalapeno flavour No Had Flamin' Hot But I was giving the double thumbs up You've had it Get yourself a packet Of Cheetos Jalapeno
Starting point is 00:50:14 Brother you will thank me bruv Yeah They are the best Chris I don't know why I get so Like intense When I talk about food This is very very scary But bro
Starting point is 00:50:22 You will thank me bruv Also It's banging Do you know what I'd say you're going to thank us. Okay. Because you just shouted about the podcast. I bet you get a few boxes. Yeah, bruv, send me them things, bruv. Me and my wife will be happy, bruv, trust me.
Starting point is 00:50:38 Yeah, bruv. How hot are they? Spicy? They're not like the flaming ones, but the flaming ones ain't even hot. Right. It's like hot for like two seconds. Yeah. I went to Disney Sea,
Starting point is 00:50:48 which is in Japan. Yeah, yeah. And they obviously got all different snacks. Right. My wife is obsessed with finding all the different snacks. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And we had an Ursula from The Little Mermaid, seafood, steamed dumpling.
Starting point is 00:51:01 I've never eaten something that looked more like an anus in my life. Really weird little dumpling, all purple and puckered. It was mad. Allow it. Allow it. Although,
Starting point is 00:51:14 dim sum slaps. Yeah. Dim sum slaps, but whatever the hell you ate, that don't sound like that slapped. Dim sum is good though. Dim sum is so good, man. I could literally eat that.
Starting point is 00:51:24 What are you looking for in a dim sum menu? All of them, man. Give me the prawn one. Give me the chicken one. Give me the veg one. I want all of them. Yeah, yeah. And different colours.
Starting point is 00:51:33 No different colours. I love all the baskets stacked on top of each other. So it's like you start at the top of the building and you get in the lift and you just go down and eat everything on every floor.
Starting point is 00:51:41 And as long as it's got that sauce, whatever that, was it chilli sauce next? Yeah. Give me that stuff, bro. When they've got the baskets stacked up, if there's like four in each basket, say there's four of you, you all have one each from that top basket. When sometimes like each of you have one apart from one person just leaves,
Starting point is 00:51:59 just doesn't have it. And I'm like, that's the top one. You've got to take your dumpling so we can go on to the next round because otherwise we've got to lift it up and I don't like lifting it up like a little hot box
Starting point is 00:52:08 and it all just comes steaming out so I'm just like eat that dumpling so we can get on to the next level please and when they don't do it it really gets to me
Starting point is 00:52:15 and then he winds me up so I'm just like we've got to be working our way down the tower because I just eat theirs I wouldn't even you just eat theirs as well
Starting point is 00:52:22 I'd be like look are you going to eat it I respect that give me that you can have two off the next floor yeah you know what I mean it's good stuff
Starting point is 00:52:30 but I mean I think Ed shares my frustrations I do well I eat quick as well yeah I do we shall go out for a meal
Starting point is 00:52:37 we'll go for dim sum we'll get through our food way too quick yeah we'd spend more time cussing you
Starting point is 00:52:44 about your scrapped legs I'll be in my high chair checking your dim sum everywhere yeah i better see the top of the tower easier than you guys dream scientists we're going for plantain then. Ooh, yeah, yeah, plantain. Yeah, and how are you having that done? Oh, just fried, man. Fried the African way, man. I don't like the way Jamaicans do it.
Starting point is 00:53:14 And what's the difference? They make this almost like a... It's soggy and it's very sweet-ish, whereas Africans, we like ours savoury. So we'll fry it very crispy. That's how we like ours. Firm inside, not soggy. Not with all this syrupy kind of thing to it.
Starting point is 00:53:34 I think I prefer that. Yeah. Like crispy. I love plantain. Or, actually, this is another good way to have it. The way I said is the way I like it. But for breakfast, so you can get green plantains. What you do, you fry it, but then you take them out.
Starting point is 00:53:50 You put them back in the shell of the plantain or whatever you want to call it. And you smash them and then you refry them again. Yeah, take them out afterwards. Add a little salt. Does that make it? Have that with eggs. You can have that with scrambled eggs. No, because they actually bang with scrambled eggs. Yeah. Have that. Oh, my days, they're so salt. Does that make it? Have that with eggs. You can have that with scrambled eggs. No, because they actually bang with scrambled eggs.
Starting point is 00:54:06 Yeah. Have that. Oh, my days, they're so nice. And avocado. Does that make them crispier when you do it? That does make them crispier. It's quite oily, to be honest, but it's just so damn nice. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:17 Yeah, very, very nice. My wife does that. But you've got to do that with green plantains. Right. Because it's less sweet. Yeah. So it's way more savoury. Are they a bit firmer as well so you can smash them down
Starting point is 00:54:28 and they won't all completely come apart? Yeah, they won't. They'll literally, it'll still be all together, but it's just nice, man. I don't know why I don't eat plantain every day. Because it's the best. And it's filling. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:40 I think I'm not, I haven't tried cooking it yet. I've only had it like, you know, eating out and stuff. So like, I'm not I haven't tried cooking it yet I've only had it like eating out and stuff so like I'm not confident enough to go I'm just going to buy a load and then learn to cook but I reckon I could
Starting point is 00:54:52 yeah yeah yeah or if anything I reckon there must be like something online for you to like look at and stuff like that just follow that and learn how to cook at home
Starting point is 00:55:00 and maybe that'll be the next thing I'll try yeah your dream drink oh this is hard because i don't want to include alcohol now because my dream drink is with a meal like that is super malt i'm a super malt with that man a cold super malt yeah yeah now the only other time i've had super malt he's back in the conversation because Big Zoo made me have a super malt
Starting point is 00:55:28 on his show he's like you've got to have a super malt and it was delicious like freezing cold super malt so you know he knows his stuff about some
Starting point is 00:55:35 yeah yeah no no super malt obviously that's an African thing and like my African brother Big Zoo don't get too that's my boy you know what I mean
Starting point is 00:55:42 he's my African brother but he's Jadafrice this doesn't make sense but a super malt yeah and it is tasty it's like yeah it's like non-alcoholic guinness basically isn't it it's got that sort of yeah like rich sort of yeah malty taste obviously never had it no never tasted never touched my tongue that's another one for you bro put it on the list have you always been into super malts is this like take you back to your childhood yes it does definitely that's what we were drinking back in the day when all the adults were drinking guinness all the kids were reaching for a super malt because it made us feel like big big people but the taste is for i know there's some people that don't like malt
Starting point is 00:56:20 um sorry super malt like malty drinks like that. But yeah, for me, I love it. Grew up on it. But you didn't want to, why have you decided not to choose an alcoholic drink? Just because of the meal. Because I said Jell-O fries with oxtail. Yeah, so the Jell-O fries and super malt
Starting point is 00:56:34 just go hand in hand. Oh, right. Because the oxtail's like stewed, right? I guess, isn't it? With the super malt. Perfect. Perfect. It's like rich, deep flavours.
Starting point is 00:56:45 Yeah. But if it was an alcoholic drink, Perfect. It's like rich, deep flavours. Yeah. But if it was an alcoholic drink, it'd probably be like a Guinness, a Nigerian Guinness or something like that. Guinness foreign extra. Yeah. That stuff's great. That's great, bro.
Starting point is 00:56:55 First time I had that. What's that? So it's like the stuff, they export it. Yeah. I think initially because it couldn't last, normal Guinness couldn't last the journey. So it's like double alcohol guinness is that's yeah so it's stronger than the dublin guinness i'm saying so yeah oh wow so more boozy that's the stuff i'm sure i've told that story on
Starting point is 00:57:15 the podcast before what when me and my dad were on holiday once and we ordered we just thought they were like normal strength beers and we ordered a bucket of them at this restaurant. Jesus. And we were like necking them and chatting. And they were in this bucket of ice. I was completely hammered. I think I was about 17. And I just slid the label off the bottle and stuck it to my head. I thought this is going to be hilarious.
Starting point is 00:57:37 And I looked up at exactly the same time my dad looked up and he'd done exactly the same thing. I love stories about editing his dad. But I love that so i think it's like 7.8 or something it's really it's a strong strong beer wow no well i've not had that either yeah so you got the super malt but you've also got that guinness so like it's quite similar you're into that flavor yeah man i love stout yeah yeah i got a cut back from it i know i'm drinking stout yeah yeah i got a cut back from it i know i'm drinking a beer now but i got a cut back from it i'm in the gym now like you know
Starting point is 00:58:09 yeah yeah i do love her is that is that is that new the gym regime yeah i got a pt now ah been with him for like three months and he's strict he's scottish yeah he's strict oh my god he's strict he's always... He's like... Because before, I'd be like, oh, man, I can have, like, a drink here and there. Yeah. He's a snowman. He's like, no, like, I can't do nothing with him, bro.
Starting point is 00:58:33 I hope he doesn't listen to this and hear what you said about Haggis. He will, yeah. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, if he hears the Haggis chat, you're in trouble. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. So his name is Lee. Yeah. And I call him Iron Brew Lee.
Starting point is 00:58:42 That's what I... And he hates it. So every time I, like, either call him Iron Brulee. That's what I say and he hates it. So every time I like either call him that or take the piss out of what he's wearing, like he just goes ham. In the gym, he's just like, you're right, you're doing this, you're doing that. And I'll be like, I'm only joking bro.
Starting point is 00:59:01 He's got that Scottish fiery temper, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. So you come in and you call him Iron Brulee, even though you know what I'm saying yeah so you come in and you call him Iron Brulee even though you know that's going to get you in trouble
Starting point is 00:59:07 yeah I can't help it bro then he makes you do everything yeah I can't help it it's Iron Brulee it's like Bruce Lee Brulee
Starting point is 00:59:15 you get it Brulee yeah Brulee bro what Brulee Brulee I'm like bro it's an endearing name and he's just like
Starting point is 00:59:24 no it's not endearing you're taking a piss I was just like what does he make you'm more like Bruleith. I'm like, bro, it's an endearing name. And he's just like, no. I didn't do it. You're taking the piss. I was just like, bro. What does he make you do? What sort of stuff is he making you do to punish you for saying I'm Bruleith? So, legs. If it's legs day, he'll take the piss.
Starting point is 00:59:36 So, I'll, like, leg press, like, 250. Oh. Yeah. Well, he does this thing. I forgot what it's called. Where, basically, I what it's called where basically I think it's like five
Starting point is 00:59:46 no it's like six sets of four reps but the weight is crazy yeah but you just gotta and he keeps
Starting point is 00:59:55 removing it's a drop set he'll just keep removing weight oh my god that one there kills because you're thinking
Starting point is 01:00:01 you're thinking like yeah four reps that's fine by the time you get to the third set yeah your legs are finished that one there kills. Because you're thinking like, yeah, four reps, that's fine. By the time you get to the third set, your legs are finished. And he's just like, go on! And it's just like,
Starting point is 01:00:13 how is that? Yeah, and he won't let me, I can never, even if I say no, he'll be like, go on, go on. And you'll just keep saying, go on. Do it. Like, you can't move until you do it.
Starting point is 01:00:24 You make him more angry if you say no. Yeah. But shout out to out to him man i'm seeing the the difference because i had a big ass belly before uh-huh that's it's going man thanks to andrew lee man go sometimes do you think like like i really need to yeah i'm not in the mood really to do the gym today but i really need to make sure i make it count so just to ensure that I get an exercise I'm going to call him Iron Bulu I'm going to do that straight up the gate I've not done that but you know what if you really feel like you need a good workout and really get your money's worth you should buy one of those
Starting point is 01:00:53 tartan hats with the ginger wigs go in with that alright Lee I should you know I really should find different ways of pissing we arrive at your dream dessert I should, you know. I really should. Find different ways of pissing. We arrive at your dream dessert. This is hard.
Starting point is 01:01:12 I'm not a dessert guy like that. I do like desserts. Yeah. I just go for like a chocolate fudge cake with ice cream. Oh no. Hell no. Apple crumble and ice cream. Are you mad?
Starting point is 01:01:23 I just realised, bruv, what I was saying. Apple crumble and ice cream. Don't piss? I just realised, bruv, what I was saying. Apple crumble and ice cream. Don't piss me off. I love that. It's the first time I've not seen you excited about it, of course. You're like,
Starting point is 01:01:34 I don't know, chocolate fudge. This is not the Babatunde I've come to know. And then suddenly, no! Really? No, I just remembered.
Starting point is 01:01:42 Yeah. Apple crumble slapstick. Because I was missing the catchphrase of don't piss me off. Yeah, yeah. I like don't piss me off. You seemed quite relaxed about the chocolate fudge cake pissing you off. And I was like, this is not what we've come to enjoy. I bet a lot of people have said apple crumble, right?
Starting point is 01:01:57 We have had a lot of apple crumbles. Have we? But there's a long raging discussion about custard or ice cream. And I'm an ice cream guy. I agree with you. Hot apple crumble and vanilla ice cream. However, don't sleep on the custard though. It still slaps, but I'm just an ice cream man.
Starting point is 01:02:18 How about this? Let's see what you think about this. I think my favourite combo would be hot apple crumble with cold custard. Are you smoking crack? My mum makes an amazing apple crumble and it was always
Starting point is 01:02:32 get the ice cream out of the freezer. Let's go. It starts melting but there's still a really cold bit on the top. Let's go. So you're making
Starting point is 01:02:39 your own custard anyway with the melted bit of ice cream. Let's go. That's how it's supposed to be yeah did you get it are you suddenly checking your watch no no someone tried to phone me oh yeah you got a proper watch i'm i'm really i'm really going where the are you you heard these names just heard you say apple crumble with ice cream what the are you playing yeah yeah i'll be drinking a beer now yeah What the fuck are you playing at?
Starting point is 01:03:01 Yeah, yeah. Better not be drinking a beer now. Yeah, yeah, you know what I mean? You heard his name, bruv. Oh, I love apple crumble. It's beautiful, man. It's the best dessert. Whoever came up with that, big him up, boy. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:13 We'll never know. Yeah, we'll never know. But you're going to do chocolate fudge cake for a second. I was going to say chocolate fudge cake, but yeah, but then apple crumble reminded me of its presence. But chocolate fudge cake, bang, though. Ice cream with chocolate fudge cake. You're crazy, bruv.
Starting point is 01:03:28 Yeah. Come on. Again, I'd probably like hot custard with chocolate fudge cake. What is wrong with you? Yeah. What are you doing? Tasty. Custard, bro.
Starting point is 01:03:39 Custard? Yeah, yeah. You know what it is? I'm traumatised by custard. That's what it is. Go on. School days. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:47 Back in the day, I had a really nasty custard that was lumpy as hell. Oh, yeah. That's why. I just remembered now. No joke. I actually just remembered.
Starting point is 01:03:56 That's why I'm not a custard guy. It was a specific time or every day it was lumpy? No, no, specific. There was one day, you know, school cake. Oh, my days. With the sprinkles. Yeah. It was crazy. That sl know school cake oh my days with the sprinkles yeah crazy
Starting point is 01:04:07 that slaps but i had that with custard yeah and the custard was lumpy school custard this was in year five i literally just remembered that how crazy is that did they ever give you the chocolate custard we got that at school i got that yeah and it always had a skin on the top and you could see them like dig down into it. It's horrible. I quite like the skin. Yeah, of course you did. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:28 But that kind of threw me off. Yeah. And there was a, what's that bird's custard with the red? Yeah. I remember my mum tried and made that. That came out like gel. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:37 I was like, oh, yuck. I was like, that's disgusting. You could get the cartons of the, The Devon? Yeah. Let's go. That's the one. I used to drink that. I used to go to the fridge and drink that out of the carton. Right, you'reon? Yeah. Let's go! That's the one! I used to drink that.
Starting point is 01:04:45 I used to go to the fridge and drink that out of the carton. Right, you're crazy. Yeah, I was a fat little boy. You are savage, bruv. Is David doing the same thing? You are savage. Straight out of the carton from the fridge.
Starting point is 01:04:55 Yeah, yeah. If my mum had opened it, I could just go to the fridge, see what was around. Quick squeeze from the carton into the mouth. On with the day. You were going mad. You were going mad.
Starting point is 01:05:04 Wear the empty carton as a hat, bump into his dad doing the same thing in the corridor? You were going mad. You were going mad. Wear the empty carton as a hat, bump into his dad doing the same thing in the corridor. You're a savage, bro. They both tip their hats to each other in a greeting. I used to bite the cheese and stuff. Yeah, you're a savage, bro.
Starting point is 01:05:18 Yeah, loved it. Okay, I'm going to read your menu back to you now. Let's go. Let's go. Water. You want cold, sparkling water with crushed ice. Let's go. Let's go. Water. You want cold, sparkling water with crushed ice. Let's go.
Starting point is 01:05:27 Poppins or bread. Warm toasted chapatta with M&S truffle chicken liver patty. Let's go. Sorry. Sorry. I apologise. Never apologise for this level of enthusiasm. We love it.
Starting point is 01:05:39 Start a deep fried prawn with sweet chilli sauce from Papagoni. Is that it? Yes. Main course. Caribbean oxtail with Nigerian jollof salad and coleslaw. Keep going, bro. Party jollof. Party jollof.
Starting point is 01:05:53 Side. Fried plantain. Drink. Super malt. Dessert. Apple crumble with ice cream. Feeling good? Look at the gains.
Starting point is 01:06:00 Look at the gains. Look at those. That's what that food does for you. Do you understand? That food and I and Brulee. Look at the gains. Look at those. That's what that food does for you. Do you understand? That food and... That food and dying Brulé. Yeah. Would you like us to make the whole thing party?
Starting point is 01:06:13 We can just smoke the whole meal. Smoke the whole... Smoke the whole meal, make it party. Even the apple crumble? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think that should be an option at all restaurants now. You order something and they go, would you like to make it party?
Starting point is 01:06:24 Yeah. That would be the whole party. You order something and they go, would you like to make it party? Yeah. That would be the party. If you ate that whole menu and then next morning went to see Iron Brulee, what do you think he'd have to say? Oh my God, he would go mad. He would go, oh, that sugar. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:37 Oh, bruv, I'd get worked at, Jim. Yeah. Yeah. We'd do a circuit from beginning to end. I love Iron Brulee. I love Iron Brulee. Also, I think the next off-menu merch we do a circuit from beginning to end I love Iron Brulee I love Iron Brulee also I think the next off menu
Starting point is 01:06:48 merch we do if we do another collab we should do the little blue booty shorts off menu and then Iron Brulee can get
Starting point is 01:06:57 well Babatunde will get sent a free pair of them anyway bro please do that because I want to give that to him
Starting point is 01:07:03 as a gift that would be amazing send him a little like Percival should do a shirt with like blue booty Oh, please do that. I want to give that to him as a gift. That would be amazing. Percival should do a shirt with blue booty shorts, like a dude in blue booty shorts. And I'll be like, this is you, bro. If we do the blue booty shorts collab, then we should choose a nightmer food from your menu. So I think like a bottle of super malt,
Starting point is 01:07:22 but it says off menu on the label instead. On the butt. Or an iron brew that says Lee on it. Yes, yes, yes. It should be an iron brew that says Lee. He would have to wear that every day. He would love that. Yeah, put that on one of the buns.
Starting point is 01:07:38 Or booty malt. Booty malt. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Oh, this has been great. Thank you very much for coming to the Dream Restaurant Thank you for having me Well there we are One of my favourite eps, I think
Starting point is 01:07:57 Let's go, I loved it I laughed so much in that episode Laughed a lot Let's go, what a catchphrase Wonderful company Let's go, stop a catchphrase. Wonderful company. Wonderful company. Let's go. Stop taking the piss. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Go and see Babatunde on tour. He's on tour
Starting point is 01:08:12 next year with his show, Babahood. Yes, make sure you go and see that. The gig that I did with Babatunde the other day was great. Yeah. The audience, he was on first. Yeah. And he absolutely killed it. So you've got to get along to that tour show. Agreed.
Starting point is 01:08:26 Agreed. He did not say the secret ingredient, James. Campbell's soup did not come up. Campbell's soup did not come up. On the menu. It didn't feel like it. He was wearing, it's the first time we've ever had anyone wearing a T-shirt with the secret ingredient on it.
Starting point is 01:08:39 Yeah. But that does not count as coming up on the menu. Yeah. Now, look, if you want to argue amongst yourselves, listeners, on social media about whether we should have chucked Babatunde out because he was wearing the secret ingredient on a T-shirt, that is up to you. We're happy for people to debate that.
Starting point is 01:08:55 We feel like that would have been unfair. Yes, I think so. Wonderful time. Great stuff. I'm on tour as well at Gamble Electric. Go and see it. Also, please get my book james acas's guide to quitting social media being the best you can be and curing yourself of
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