Off Menu with Ed Gamble and James Acaster - Ep 196: Toheeb Jimoh

Episode Date: July 12, 2023

Riceo, Riceo, wherefore art thou Riceo? Kicking off series 10 is ‘Ted Lasso’ star Toheeb Jimoh. Toheeb’s currently starring in ‘Romeo and Juliet’ at the Almeida Theatre until 29 July. Buy ti...ckets here. Follow Toheeb on Twitter @Toheeb_Jimoh and Instagram @toheeb.j Recorded and edited by Ben Williams for Plosive.Artwork by Paul Gilbey (photography and design) and Amy Browne (illustrations).Follow Off Menu on Twitter and Instagram: @offmenuofficial.And go to our website www.offmenupodcast.co.uk for a list of restaurants recommended on the show.Watch Ed and James's YouTube series 'Just Puddings'. Watch here. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello, it's Ed and James from Off Menu here. Well, I hate to do this, but Nishkumas got a new standup special coming out, James. Yeah, listen, he's our friend. Yeah. So even if this was awful, we'd have to plug it. Yeah. Here's the problem. He sent it to me.
Starting point is 00:00:14 He asked me, can you watch it, just give me any notes on the edit. Yeah. Just, you know, that'd be really helpful. He knew it was already perfect. He sent it to me to make me feel inadequate. And it worked. Because the whole show was immaculate. I'm very annoyed that he did that to me, but I'm very excited for the public to see this special.
Starting point is 00:00:30 Well, he didn't ask me for notes, because he doesn't value my opinions. I'm happy to say it's probably quite bad. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, you and Nish, you've known each other for longer than I've known even of you. And so he already knows that he's in your head. Also, I was there when it was recorded.
Starting point is 00:00:43 You watched it. Yeah, it is really good. So we knew that it all had got here. This is what you get if you ask us to plug your special mesh. Your power, your control is on sky comedy on demand from August 25th. Fuck you, Nish. T. T.
Starting point is 00:01:14 Welcome to the Off-Menu Podcast taking the mint leaves of conversation, adding in the lime of humour, putting in a teaspoonful of cheeky sugar, muddling all together, pouring over the rum of food and topping up with the soda water of friendship. It's the first episode of the series. Wow, welcome. I'm a Hito. A Mahito. The rum of food. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:37 I panicked then. I was so proud of myself for pre-planning what I was going to say. And then I realized there's quite a lot of ingredients. And I'd run out of things to compare them to. So the rum of food was not to my proudest moment, but we all like a Mahito, don't we? The great Mahito. The great Mahito. That said, gamble. My name is James A. Caster. We own a dream restaurant. And every week we invite a guest in to tell us their favorite ever start of man calls, dessert, side dish, and drink, not in that order. And this week, our guess is Tahim Jimmo.
Starting point is 00:02:05 Yes, wonderful actor, wonderful man. Brilliant actor, I listen as mainly known from Ted Lasso. Yes, I was watching the French Dispatch every day, was Anderson film. Yes. And he pops up in that. I was very excited to see him in that. And the minute of course he's at the Amida Fieta doing Romeo and Juliet right now.
Starting point is 00:02:25 Big play. Yeah, and he's playing Romeo. Romeo. Where for art thou to heap? Well, he's in the off menu studio. And of course, we wanted to be there. That was good, I thought. Yeah, we wanted to be there.
Starting point is 00:02:39 Got them rum of food. What? Well, you said that as well. You can't say that as if you're being someone else. I'm improving, so you could give me a pat on the back for improving rum of food. Well, you said that as well. You can't say that as if you're being someone I'm proving. So you could give me a pot on the back for improving rum rum of food. Yeah, I'll give you a pot on the back. Well, don't worry for that to heap in the off-menus studio. Yeah. Well, hopefully, to able continue to be in the off-menus studio in Julia. Hopefully, hopefully, we can keep them in studio. Yeah. Very noisy. James. Well James. Well, I don't think I'm doing anything different.
Starting point is 00:03:06 Hopefully, to he was staying in the off-maintenance studio for a while because we aren't going to kick him out. No, kick him out, if he says the secret ingredient. No. And ingredient which we have deemed to be unacceptable. Yes. And this week, the secret ingredient is homemade English tea biscuits in a little, small pink box.
Starting point is 00:03:23 Like in Tedlas. Like in Tedlas. Like in Tedlas. So we've done one from his work. Yeah. And as we understand Hannah Wadenham says they're disgusting. Yes. Hannah Wadenham does say they're disgusting. I think they improved across the seasons,
Starting point is 00:03:39 but yeah, disgusting apparently. So we know they taste gross. That's disgusting. Disgusting. Disgusting. Disgusting. It was one of yours. I've never known like a meme or a video to completely change a simple word. Every time I hear the word disgusting now, I think disgusting.
Starting point is 00:03:57 Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is it. It was fucking one of yours. Man, that poor lady clearly hates her life. Really, it all built to something. She didn't know that her kids were filming. Yeah. I want to know how it got online.
Starting point is 00:04:13 The kids must have put it online. They just post it. Yeah. Those kids have got, I mean, I guess the kids, because in the video, they're like finding it funny. But I guess they watched it back and went, this is the funniest thing I've seen. I'm shouting about someone who did a big shit. They look guess they watched it back and went, this is the funniest thing I've seen. My mum is shouting about someone did a big shit. They look so scared when it's out there.
Starting point is 00:04:31 And you can't tell which one of them it was. No, no. It was great about it. You're like, maybe it wasn't fucking one of this. Why not? I've been, that lady did a big shit. We've got about it. That was fucking one of us. This you went back later. We should get her on the point. Yeah, try and get try and get the mum on this podcast. I say we do a special episode with people from memes that we like. Yeah. So we get disgusting mum. Yeah, just we get what a sad little life, Jane. Yeah, yeah, that guy. We should definitely get him on time with
Starting point is 00:05:01 me. Yeah, obviously. And get us him back. Yeah. Because he's obsessed with him. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. And I'm a meme. You're a meme. So obviously you're on it. Yeah. I'm on it. Yeah. That's good. Oh, yes. I mean it. Well, hopefully, Teib does not say homemade English tea biscuit in his more pink box. Hopefully not. Because we'd like to chat to him. We would like to chat to him very much. Should we, should we do that? Yes, this is the off menu menu of Tejibu. Welcome to Heeb to the Dream Restaurant. Woo! Welcome to Heeb Jibu to the Dream Restaurant,
Starting point is 00:05:41 but it's about to give us some time. I'm glad to be here. Thank you so much for having me. It's a dope. It is dope. It's the dopest restaurant in the universe. Yeah. Yeah, actually, about time someone said it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:52 Now, I was ever called this dream master, I'm dope people for. We're looking around. It is your dream, master. Well, what makes it so dope was that it's been called? Oh, yes, there's, what do I see? It's big. It's bigger than I thought. It's a big, there's, what do I see? It's big. It's bigger than I thought.
Starting point is 00:06:06 It's a big. It's in your thoughts. It's growing even as we're speaking. Even though it's your thought, it's somehow bigger than your thoughts. Yeah, that's that's it. It's a surprise. That's why it's a nice big restaurant where it still feels homely, warmed as art and the walls.
Starting point is 00:06:22 It smells like like, you smells like my kitchen at home. Like, do you know what I mean? It's like home, it feels. It's like a nice, nice, nice kitchen. The food smells nice. I mean, it's not the kitchen. It's not the kitchen. Not that the kitchen didn't smell nice.
Starting point is 00:06:34 It's just like, yeah, it's just, you know, when you're walking and it's like, you're smelling nice food and you're like, my home, that's my house. You know, it's like, it's like, it's my house. Yeah, yeah. It would be mad if you got a new kitchen, you hadn't cooked in it yet and it had a smell. Yeah, that was, yeah, that's a red flag, isn't it? It needs it's like, it's like, yeah. It would be mad if you got a new kitchen, you hadn't cooked it yet and it had a smell.
Starting point is 00:06:46 Yeah, that was, yeah, that's a red flag, isn't it? It needs to smell neutral, I think, so you can put your own smells in, right? Sure, glad. Yeah, let yourself all over. Yeah, that's all. Love yourself, I love your kitchen. Yeah, I get it, smelling.
Starting point is 00:06:56 Yeah, I feel you. So yeah, it's a nice, big, homely, warm, nice smelling restaurant. You've heard a big restaurant to a small, like a small little, thank you one. I think when I said big, I just kind of felt like it felt expansive, but I think more than anything, it should feel homely. So, I'm thinking about the restaurants that I go to know that I really like,
Starting point is 00:07:13 and a lot of them are actually quite small. But, yeah, you know what, I've changed my mind. This is a small restaurant. It's getting smaller and smaller. So small. Um, see to one person. Yeah, it's just me and the chef. Oh, yeah, so what's the optimal number of tables that you've won in the small restaurant?
Starting point is 00:07:27 That's a big question. Start with James. I think I would love three tables. Three. That's it. Yeah. Uh, I'm on one with my mates and then there's like two others that are like just couples or whatever. But that's, that feels like you're interrupting people's personal time, doesn't it?
Starting point is 00:07:41 I feel like you shouldn't be able to like hear other people. Well, you should be able to hear noise. Like, there should be ambiance, but feel like you shouldn't be able to like hear other people, but you should be able to hear noise. Like there should be ambiance, but like I shouldn't be like, yeah, I don't want anyone listening to my conversation with my like people and my friends, but do you want to listen to other people's conversations? I kind of do. Oh, these jobs, these jobs a little bit. Yeah, there's a tap us restaurant that I like in two, and my friend Dick Boah takes me to. And that's really small, but for the most part, like just because there's a tapas restaurant that I like in two ink that my friend Dipper takes me to and that's really small
Starting point is 00:08:06 But for the most part like just because there's loads of people talking you can't really hear anyone. Yeah, actually you know You can't have a small restaurant. I think three is maybe a bit too small for me. I think maybe like Seven or eight yeah tables and and yeah a few people's strewn around who's who's conversation? Do you want to listen into dream dream thing the cover next table? Who's on it? Who like oh, I want to hear what they're talking about? Do I go for, like, something, like, personal for me, or am I, like, do you steal government secrets from? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:34 Do you mean, like, how, how important do you make this table? You've been to the White House, right? I have been to you. When you listen in, when you were there. I mean, do you know, I was just terrified the entire time. Like, there was a part of me that was, like, there's probably invisible guards somewhere, like just have like a sniper train on the back of my head
Starting point is 00:08:48 if I do something dodgy, I'm done. But it was fun actually, it was really nice. It was, I mean, there was no conversation to listen into, we were like part of the conversation, which was great. Did you ever get worried when you were in the corridors? Like, I'd be worried that if I said something rude about the White House, that they were,
Starting point is 00:09:01 they would be like, micro-finding the walls and stuff. Yeah, yeah. It did feel like that. It was one of those things where I was like, it feels a bit too chill. Like I was like, I'm a bit surprised that we just come in and we've gone through what looks like really regular security. And so then that's why I was like, there's probably just some stuff we can't see. There's people on the roof and like that guy's dropped today is just keep that red dot
Starting point is 00:09:26 in the back of the TV set. So yeah, no, it was fun though. They were really accommodating and warm. And we got to meet so many people. I met Kamala Harris and Joe Biden and his wife, Jill. It was just, it was one of those like really weird days where I don't think I've even processed it now at the White House.
Starting point is 00:09:46 Yeah, that is mad. It's a little TV show. And it's just bizarre. Like I think back to day one on Ted Lasso, and if you've told any of us that the president of the United States would want to sit down and have a conversation with us because of our show. Well, when Ted Lasso started,
Starting point is 00:10:02 if someone had told you that, I'd imagine you'd absolutely would have hated to hear that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, his whole face kind of written as a reaction against him. What did we do? What happened in the third season, is that Donald Trump wants to meet us. I like that. I can't. That's my Donald Trump idea.
Starting point is 00:10:27 Yeah. Donald Trump definitely fits it himself in the mirror. Yeah. Yeah. He's the original. I'm wearing these priceless. Okay, so maybe you'd have them on the next table. I think it would be, it had to be something political.
Starting point is 00:10:40 Yeah. Someone with some scandalous juicy information. Like itself. Well, like the area 51 people. I'm like, I just we've got to know, but like, because at this point, I'm like, didn't, didn't, didn't they just kind of confirm that they were like, UFO videos? And then like, they just kind of did. And like, nobody really cared. And I was like, wait, I think they just told us that they don't know what that was. And I'm like, well, you have to. What do you mean you don't know what that stuff was?
Starting point is 00:11:08 So maybe I'd be like, what's going on? That's how much most of us just don't believe in aliens, I think. Yeah, I said that and we went, yeah, whatever. Yeah. Whatever I'm going to forget about that. I'm moving on my life. Yeah. I don't have time for aliens.
Starting point is 00:11:21 I think I've got the capacity to be able to. I'm just like, there's enough happening here to go there's. You're a busy guy. I'm doing a play. It shakes me. I just. There's too much. You got to think about the rest of the run on Romeo and Juliet. Yeah. And then and then you can think about it. Yeah. In August, I can process aliens. Yeah. Right now, I think I just need to falling in love is hard enough. You know, twice in a play. Yeah. Well, yeah, he starts the play and he's kind of in love with Rosalind. I think he's just in love with the idea of being in love, you know. And then like really falls in love and then it gets dark.
Starting point is 00:11:54 I don't want to spoil it for people. No. Who do you think, what world leader do you think is going to invite you to their house after this play? After Romeo and Julia. I don't know. Where's it set? Roman Julia and Verona in Italy. Italy.
Starting point is 00:12:08 Italy and person. Italian person. Italian person. Italian person. Italian person. It is. It is. This is not edited.
Starting point is 00:12:17 Suspenseful. It is. And I know the only name in your head is Sylvia Birlis going to at the moment. Yes. But he's dead. You want to guess the other name in my head? Mario, yeah. Oh, Joe, everything was just fine.
Starting point is 00:12:33 I'm not in a good place in the minute. Who is it? I don't know. I don't know. I'm glad that he doesn't know it yet. Yeah. That's most of the better. But maybe they're telling the president to invite you to the Italian White House. Italian White House. Yeah, that's most people better. But maybe they're telling him pro-president to invite you to the Italian White House.
Starting point is 00:12:47 Italian White House. Yeah, yeah. Or the Vatican. Yeah, yeah. Oh, man, got the goddamn back. I can poke. Can imagine the Pope is like because of your production of Romeo and Juliet. I'd like to, I'd like to meet with you guys. Yeah. Yeah, I think in terms of just strangeness that could maybe be what they got seek for invisible guards. Spiritual guards. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:11 End of the Holy Spirit. Internal damnations. Yeah, that's all about. It's quite dangerous. Yeah, they need guards because they just, they tell you not to do stuff, right? Otherwise you go to hell. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what your brain breaking your own guard.
Starting point is 00:13:26 Don't even have to do no security when you go in. Let's go. Remember, you'll go to hell. You're not. You're not. Yeah. I went there around New Years and I went to look at the Vatican House.
Starting point is 00:13:38 I don't want to go in and give him any money because it's squirming. But like I saw it from outside and they had the worst Christmas tree I've ever seen. Like it was such a perfect, it was really rubbish and it really made me laugh. The kept in town, I don't know what's better than this. And you're the Vatican. What was on top of the Christmas tree, like a little post? Really shitty star. Just like it was like really rubbish. The fairy lights just been flung over it. The tree looked like it was pretty much dead,
Starting point is 00:14:05 but it's massive tree, but really, really scraggly awful tree right in front of the back. I could really make me laugh, took a photo of it while laughing. Everyone else was really sad because the old pope was about to die. He died the next day. But it was, I was having a laugh at the tree.
Starting point is 00:14:22 Yeah. But I guess that's the ultimate, like, Christmas is about Jesus, not about trees and Yeah, but I guess that's the ultimate like Christmas is about Jesus and not about treason stuff, right? So that's like the point. No, I mean, can't you maybe? I mean, I mean, maybe that's just the kind of trees they like. I mean, I'm not a big Christmas, I'm not a tree person. Like I'm a Muslim family, so Christmas is never a big deal for us.
Starting point is 00:14:37 So I'm like, listen, I don't know what the tree supposed to look like. I mean, good man. Yeah, I'm really happy. It's a Disney Channel shows. I'm really sorry that happened to you. I'm sorry you had that experience. the tree supposed to look like a good man. Yeah. And Disney Channel shows. I'm really sorry that happened to you. I'm sorry you had that experience. It's funny. I thought if I didn't want to go to the back, I was like, I guess we got to go
Starting point is 00:14:54 because we're here in Rome, so we should go. Yeah. And then we went outside and we got that tree as shit. Is that funny? Good. Now you're telling us just before we started recording to heb that you, you were really spending a lot of time working out what your menu is going to be.
Starting point is 00:15:07 Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you're like a foodie. You care about food you're into it. Yeah, like I enjoy it. It's like, yeah, food is one of my comfort things. I wouldn't say I'm a foodie. I'm not a big cooker. Like I'm also a creature of habit.
Starting point is 00:15:23 Like if I find something that I like, I'm going for that. I'm not the type to be like, oh, let me try everything on a menu. I'm going to the place that I like. I'm ordering the food that was good that one time. And I'm happy here. I join in.
Starting point is 00:15:34 So yeah, but I'm trying to think, do I go for stuff that I like now? Am I going for childhood stuff? Like, you know what is my dream meal? And a lot of this stuff doesn't fit together. Like I wouldn't sit down and have all of these things in one but yeah, there's a few things that are fighting themselves out on my menu.
Starting point is 00:15:51 And we'll see what comes. We'll see what wins. Well, it's still a spark of water, is we all? It's still water to the death man. Sparkling water is one of the worst things on a planet. I can't explain to you how much I dislike it. And I understand it's a bit irrational to not sparking water so much, but I just don't get the appeal of it. I saw a thing on Twitter when I was really young and they were sparking water
Starting point is 00:16:16 tastes like TV static. I've never ever ever been able to get that out of my head. It's just the feeling of it is nuts. I think people that like it are nuts. So still water, still water to the day. Yeah, I like a passionate answer. Yes. And I just, I'm like, there's a part of me that feels like if you, like, I'm like, you're pretending to like that, bro. I can't. And there's no way you can tell me otherwise.
Starting point is 00:16:39 Like, it's not, it's not good. It's not good for you. I'm more on your side than the, we have people who come in sometimes who are the opposite. I'm like still what? Well, they're just like, why would you want to? Why would you have sparkling water? Sparkling is a course of sparkling. Why?
Starting point is 00:16:57 Yeah. Is it a red flag for you? So if you're really getting on with someone and then you find out that it's sparkling water, you're like, we're not going to be friends. It's not a red flag. I think I'd have the conversation and be like, what do you gain? Like, why? Like, what's the appeal?
Starting point is 00:17:11 Would you call them nuts to their face? Probably. Yeah, probably. And that might be the red flag. I think the red flag is whether or not we could survive the conversation. Sure. But then I'm like, if you top that up with,
Starting point is 00:17:21 I think the three food things that I just have like an irrational hatred for are sparkling water, if you top that up with olives I think the three food things that I just have like an irrational hatred for, are sparkling water. If you top that up with olives, yeah. Hang on, do you mean if you put olives into the sparkling water? Yeah, that would have been... That would have been... If that happened, I'm not gonna talk about that.
Starting point is 00:17:34 See that I'm a judge of balsamow. I'm not gonna talk about it. Excuse me, but olives, I don't really like, and is it a boba, boba tea? Oh, yeah, that one. I've never had that because it's just the look of it makes it put to my mouth. Boba, Boba T, the one that's called that. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That one. I've never had that, because it's just the look of it makes it put to my mouth.
Starting point is 00:17:48 It's, yeah, I had it in, I was in a lay of a friend of mine. It was just, oh, try it. And I was just like, this is, it's oppressive. What was so bad about it? It's just the consistency of like your drink and certain. And then now you just got all of these like tapioca balls in your mouth and you're like, am I gonna choke?
Starting point is 00:18:03 Is it, I'm like, I just die on it. It's a lot. There's so much going on in this drip, this ice and the tea and America and I don't want this, bro. So those are the few things that I'm kind of like. No. So I guess that is quite similar. Bobatite is quite similar to olives in sparkly water. Yeah. Maybe that's why I don't like it. Yeah. It's like, you know, two things, like two things I hate most. A sparkling olive flavoured boba tea. Imagine that. Oh, project I want me to. Yeah. Yeah. I the boba tea thing. I think anything where you need a special straw to suck to suck up all the solid bits in a drink. No way. Yeah. Hold on. It's really to be like the solid thing in the drink is already the red flag for me. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. one at a time.
Starting point is 00:18:45 Let me just, I mean, I can handle this and I can handle that. Why are we putting it together? It just doesn't make sense. If Romeo liked Stillwater and Juliet liked Sparkling Water, do you think that that love would have bloomed? Absolutely not. I think they'd have seen each other at that party and been like, she liked Sparkling Water. You get it. I'm out, man.
Starting point is 00:19:04 I'm out. But surely that's the whole point of Romeo and Juliet there from two different houses. Oh, you're right. Sparkling and still. You're actually, and the love shouldn't. Oh, should we do like a Romeo and Juliet animation? And it's like Sparkling water and still all that.
Starting point is 00:19:18 That's it. We solve all the world's problems. We end racism. All sorts of intolerance. It's an analogy for everything. Yeah. Sparkling is still water. Then you're getting back to the White House again.
Starting point is 00:19:29 Yeah. They're like, thank you. I can't believe your parents even another project that helped the world. So I'm going to sparkling water people. That's not very Ted Lasso of you. Oh yeah. Ted hates sparkling water in the show as well. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:42 He drinks it and spits out and can't stand it the entire time. And I'm like, yeah. I'd follow that man. He doesn't like tea into battle. Doesn't like tea. I'm not a big tea drinker either. Right. Yeah. Like I don't, I'm not a hot drink person. I don't drink coffee. I don't really. I mean, I'll drink tea, but I'm not like passionate about it. Yeah. Maybe a hot chocolate. I just like burn my tongue and then, and that's it. My day's ruined. Would you say you're the most like Ted Lasso out of all the car? Oh, am I the most like Ted? No, I don't think so. Who would be the most like Ted Lasso? It's not Brett. It's not Brett. Definitely not. No, but it's not. But it's the most like his own character. He's the most Rican. He's the most Rican, but also the most not Rican at the same time.
Starting point is 00:20:27 It's a very, just very soft. But I guess like that's Rican. Like Rican is a teddy bear. And pretend not to be, and I guess that's kind of red as well. But Brett doesn't pretend not to be as much. Yeah. But yeah, Brett's not the most Ted Lasso like, who is the most Ted Lasso?
Starting point is 00:20:40 And in my hand, it has been on this podcast. It's obviously not the most Ted Lasso like. Yeah. It's just a ludic. Absolutely revolting. Nick, they has been on this podcast. It's obviously not the most Ted Lasz on like. Yeah. It's just a lunatic. Absolutely revolting. Nick, they're hating on you, man. They're not to say they hate it on you, bro. The guy who plays Danny Roo has, he seems to put you happy. Yeah, he is very happy.
Starting point is 00:20:54 Also very horrendous free choices. Yeah. Watching Crystal Eat is horrific. Like, I think people who love Crystal because he's like the happiest, like most charming boy in the world, if you watched him eat a meal, like he'd lose a core chunk of his fan base, I think people who love Christo because he's like the happiest like most charming boy in the world I think if you watch them eat a meal like he'd lose a core chunk of his fan base Think talk us through it. It's just I don't know because that he's he's really fit and like musically and like he You know like I think he's like protein and up just to like stay stay the most attractive boy in the world But it's the it's the eggs man like he eats a lot of eggs and I think that's like that's protein right
Starting point is 00:21:24 Yeah, I'm like I can't watch you eat six boiled eggs and not feel like we have six on the bounds. Yes. And like I'm like we have to call an intervention. Like it's just something has to be done bro. It's a lot. It's not good for you. It's not good for your insides. And the farts are just here. It's got the double storm. It's it's it's it's tough. Does he shout farting his life? It's got a double store. It's tough. Does he shout farting his life? It's not bad. No.
Starting point is 00:21:48 But Christophe does fight his life. Christophe does eat a lot though. He's the person that will get our food. And we're making it through our first one. And Christophe is coming back with his second. And then he's got like two more to take home with him. I'm like, yeah, he eats a lot. And that's why he is strapping attractive young man
Starting point is 00:22:07 with the best head of hair I've ever seen on a human being. So yeah, do you think a lot of eggs see your hair stays thick and juicy? I think it's juicy. Or the fast, the fast, the fast, delicious. Maybe it is that. Maybe that's what it is. Maybe he's just like selling us the dream of,
Starting point is 00:22:22 oh, yeah, protein and jicolite is good for me. I want to stay, but it's just that's all, all those nutrients are going into his hair. I mean, every time he farts his hair grows. If you look at him, really, if you look at him every time he, looks like his hair just goes, he pushes him out a little bit.
Starting point is 00:22:38 Yeah, he does play. Oh, that's cool. That's cool. Yeah, one of those played, I think. Yeah, I mean, no one intended, I smell a hit movie. I think he's, yeah, yeah. He's the power is his hair grows when he thoughts. Yeah. I like that movie. Yeah. Pum comes off red. Pum comes off red.
Starting point is 00:22:55 Bread. Yeah. Bread. Bread. Yeah. Bread. Okay. So there's a type of bread in Nigeria called a gigi bread. And I don't, you can get it here, but it's not the same. And I used to have this one I was in Nigeria. And there's something about that bread. And I can't even explain it to you if you haven't had it. But for the Nigeria's that are listening, they're going to go, this guy knows.
Starting point is 00:23:18 He knows. A Gage Bread. It's just the right level of like soft, like you know when you get like a good loaf of bread And like the the middle is like really soft. Yeah, it's like that But the entire way around and like you slap some butter on that and yeah, Evan. So it's not like a hard crust No, I'm remembering it from No, it's just yeah, it's soft. There's I mean, it's like a bit harder But like the inside is the juicy bit and it just tastes it's sorcery, man I don't know what's in that stuff, but it's it's yeah, it's soft. I mean, it's like a bit harder, but like the inside is the juicy bit and it just tastes
Starting point is 00:23:45 It's sorcery, man. I don't know what's in that stuff, but it's it's yeah, it's amazing So that'd be the dream is to have that that would be the dream bread. Yeah, I gave bread is like the gold standard of bread for me Great. Yeah, am I butter? Yes, like salted butter So it butter is a luxury that I've only recently come across. Oh tell us about it No, no, like genuinely. I don't know what I probably in a hotel somewhere in some foreign country, but I'm like, you know, put salt in the butt. I'm like, yo, I don't know, it's one of those moments. I was like, you know, you just realized, like how I'm working class, you've grown up. And I was like, they put the salt in the bars. Like, yo yo, these look they figured it out
Starting point is 00:24:30 So I think I'm probably in I don't know where I was. Maybe South Africa filming something and And it's like it's lovely hotel and I'm like salted butter great. I'll take it Yeah, how do you ever go back after that either? I think that's yeah, it's one of those things I mean I'll take regular butter, but I think salt it by every now and then I'm like Because I'm like can you just like make it? I've never tried to just like put salt in like my butter. Yeah, I mean, can you do that? On the rare occasion that I accidentally buy, they're unsalted butter. So I'm gutted, this is like, right, I'm like, fucking idiot.
Starting point is 00:24:55 Why have you done that again? A shit butter. Yeah, but if I spread it on, then I'll get the flaky sea salt and put some on top. I mean, I don't know why I just didn't, I've never trans, in my mind, I'm kind of like, this is a luxury that I'm afforded when I'm away at work.
Starting point is 00:25:09 But I guess I could just a bis or to butter. Yeah. Or just, you've been to the White House, man. I have been to the White House. Have some salted butter. Did they have the, at the White House? Did I have butter at the White House?
Starting point is 00:25:20 I don't think I had White House. Do you have any food at the White House? And they're not, this is a threat. We didn't sit down and have a proper meal. I don't think I had white house. Do you have any food at the White House? And they're not, this is it. We didn't sit down and have a proper meal. I don't think. Just nibbles and stuff. Sure, there's some nibbles. Sure, the nibbles at the White House.
Starting point is 00:25:32 Wait, I'm not gonna add any food. I don't think we sat down and ate. No, I think we had, yeah, we came in, we did our thing, we might have in sandwiches. We had sandwiches. And I remember Hannah asked for a banana. She was like, is there any fruit? And, you know, and they gave her a banana, but like they gave her a banana on, on like
Starting point is 00:25:48 one of those silver plates. There's a picture of her somewhere and some like this lovely person who works at the White House is like holding this silver plate and underneath is one banana. And I was like, this is, that's the most White House shit. It's happened to me. Got a bit of a hat of wooding him him got to be one of the only people in the world charming enough to get away with going to the White House and asking for a banana. She was just like, is there any, like, fruit? And I don't think she expected it to be a big deal. And somebody comes with a, yeah, with like this all mighty banana.
Starting point is 00:26:16 I mean, I should have come and bought that whole thing on. And then they opened the closet. It was the slow shit biscuit. She's got a bit of a, like, bad luck. They did give us biscuits, other than that. minute left. Five luck, more than biscuits again. They did give us biscuits, other than that. Yeah, because of the white house,
Starting point is 00:26:28 like catering staff made us biscuits, and they put in these lovely little containers, and I remember trying to save it, and I was like, oh, I want to give it to my mum, and it was ages until I went back home, so I was like, go eat them. Yes, it is a biscuit. Yes, and they were lovely.
Starting point is 00:26:44 Unlike the ones that Hannah has to eat, which are discussing, and I've tried one of them, and this, yeah, it's a biscuit. And they were lovely. Unlike the ones that Hannah has to eat, which are discussing, I've tried one of them, and this, yeah, it's rough. It's rough. But they're not fake to like, oh, we got to eat in so many of the biscuits. That's just like, try and make them nice. No, but I think the thing is, you know,
Starting point is 00:26:55 if you pack it like, if there's loads of sugar and stuff, you have to eat a lot of them. And so at some point, it's like, we just can't have that. That actually happened to us on, on certain season one. The catering team that we had at the beginning, like we just had everything. It was like a very American like it's an American show. So it's like an American where we had donuts and every type of phanta. Imagine every can drink you could ever want snacks, sweets, pastries.
Starting point is 00:27:19 And it got to a point where all of it like they just realized as the episodes were going on, we were all just gaining weight. And so at some point, they got switched out and we got healthy yammies. Just came in, everything's really healthy and kale juice. And I mean, they also like really great. And we had healthy yammies for three seasons. And by the end of it, like I really loved them. Um, those apart of me, I was like, I remember when we had donuts every day. Yeah. I missed that. Healthy yummy, so then a massive pile of boiled eggs. Yes, for Christy. I only look at Christy.
Starting point is 00:27:49 Yes, Shuffle the book. Christy's like, I wonder who ordered the egg. I might as well, but more 17 of them. I don't know, just stand over that. He's like, he got the taste. Christo does smell great. Oh, he does. He does.
Starting point is 00:28:00 And his hair smells great. And maybe it's the eggs. I'm delighting him. Yeah. I don't think I can get my mind off this idea that like the eggs are somehow linked to Christa. So it takes to now and ask him and we'll see if he replies by the end of the episode. You say, are the eggs the secret to your amazing hair?
Starting point is 00:28:13 It might be in the States. I don't know what the title is. I would just say fat in his life, asking if it would agree that fat is fat. So I want to message Christa. What? What my message is him? Hey, hey bro. I was just wondering if I was just eating all the eggs
Starting point is 00:28:26 It's the secret to your amazing hair I think if eating farting is like all those eggs is the secret To your amazing hair and then put ps fart in his life ps He's gonna know he's gonna know I'm a renders 14 is not farming, 14. Yeah, that farm is like.
Starting point is 00:28:48 No, I'm not fighting. Is life a big apple farm? Question mark, am I just, am I leaving it for? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, you amazing hair. PS, fighting his life. Yeah, great. He might know that you haven't met it, but he will wonder. I think he'll be very confused. Who's written it? I'm really interested to see what he says to that. Yeah, yeah, that'll be good.
Starting point is 00:29:14 Even if it's, you know, that might be another episode where we get the answer to that. Yeah. Let's start your menu proper now. Your proper dream menu, your dream starter. I'm allowed to talk about like what? Yes, considering. Yeah, absolutely. You have honorable mansions.
Starting point is 00:29:29 So I'm thinking calamari is a staple. Like Italian food is some of my favorite food. Like in it. So calamari is a staple. It's definitely there. It should be top spot. But, and again, a lot of my choices are going to be like Nigeria specific bills because it's what I grew up in.
Starting point is 00:29:42 Like, so we have plantain. Do you guys know you guys have plantain? Yeah. So you can do this thing, yeah, So we have plantain. Do you guys know what I'm talking about? Yeah, so you can do this thing, yeah, where you get plantain, which is already great, and it's like top-tier by itself. And you get, you know, like chicken gizzard, which is amazing, put in like this tomato-y sauce
Starting point is 00:29:55 and mix it all together and like chop it up into like really small bits. And so it's called gizzard or gizzard or gizzard or that is also fucking unreal. So depending on what type of meal I'm eating, those are my two starters. I don't know if I can pick one between the two of them. And I kind of assumed by the time I got here,
Starting point is 00:30:13 I'd have made my mind up. Yeah. So we can tell you that Kanami's been chosen a few times. It has. That's kind of why I'm like, is it a bit basic? Like, do I mean, is that? Well, it's completely up to you. It's your dream restaurant, but if you if you know if you want to stand out from the crowd Oh, don't do that
Starting point is 00:30:32 Do you want to be special? Love me Okay, let's talk about what it's it good to do. Giz do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do And like, depending on who makes it, it'll be different. My mum makes it, and it's like, it's awesome. But like, you get like a spicy tomato sauce, and you get plenty, and you, you, um, kayak up into tiny little chunks, and you get like chicken gizzard, and you cut that up into tiny little chunks as well, and you mash the two, you mash the three together, and you just, yeah, you just have this plate of gizzard
Starting point is 00:31:18 under the, and it, um, usually goes with Jolof rice, or any other type of meal, but it's like, there's a Nigerian restaurant that I go to a lot called Enish and that's my staple starter. Oh yeah. Enish, yeah, it gives it under. So you know, I'm actually going to go for Guzzanandabu because- And it's from there. It's not from there. It's you can- But would you have it from there for your dream? Or would you have your mom's?
Starting point is 00:31:41 Or would you have your mom's? Uh oh. You thought you got out of that choice. I thought you were doing it too. Even harder choice. I think I've already taken too long to answer it. It's just different though. Yeah. And like, it's just different though. I tell you what, because it's the same dish.
Starting point is 00:31:58 Could let you have both. And you can't let him off the hook. I think, you know what it is. Because I've got some home cooking coming up, I'm going to go for Gizardadol from Enish. Yeah, I'm really, I've really got some some shout outs from Mum saved up. So yeah, but she's just, if she's listening to this, just stopped. Yeah, just stop listening. All the five take all the gizzards in the bin. Yeah, Yeah, Mum, please, please fast forward to 43 minutes into this one class.
Starting point is 00:32:26 I'm going to hold my hands. Love your fast forward. It's just you reading a text message reply. Yeah. I'm not afraid. So is it like, is it super, super spicy? It's spicy, yeah. Not super spicy, but it's spicy enough.
Starting point is 00:32:39 Like, that's, yeah, I think all of Nigerian food has got a little bit of a kick to it, which is like, I grew up in spicy food. So spicy food is a staple in my household. Got the Jollafrys there. Is that coming in later on? Jollafrys is in the fight, but I think I'm going elsewhere. OK, then we would have asked you this.
Starting point is 00:32:54 Yeah. We've had a few people come on the podcast, talk about Jollafrys, and it is a big thing of Nigerian versus... Go on in, go on in. Go on in. Yeah, yeah. Now, people feel very passionate about it. We've had people from both sides. I don't know what you expect me to say. I'm flying the flag from Nigeria, man. Like I've had gone in, Jelof Rice. Yeah. That's good. Yeah. It's good. It's good. It's good. I can
Starting point is 00:33:15 give him that. It's good. Yeah. It's good food. I'd eat it. Yeah. It's not Nigerian Jelof Rice. But it's just not. It's not. Nigerian Jelof Rice is different gravy, man. Like that. It's just it's built different. I just yeah, I feel like Ghanaians are going to say it's Ghanaian Jolofrice. It's just not. Nigerian Jorai says different gravy man. It's built different. I just, yeah, I feel like Ghanaians are going to say it's Ghanaian Jolofrice. Nigerians are going to say it's Nigerian Jolofrice. But I just feel like it's Nigerian Jolofrice. It's just is. I can't even quantify it. It's not an argument that we should be having anymore. At this point, it's like, it's over. The battle is over, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. That's the most reasonable response to that question that I think we've had. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:48 At least you're saying Ghana and John LeFrice is nice. It's good. Yeah, it's good. Rather than just going to get absolute trash. Do you know what it is? Do you know what it is? It's butter versus salted butter. Butter is good.
Starting point is 00:33:57 Oh, it's good. Oh, it's good. It's good. It's not salted butter. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's not salted butter. It's just got something else. It's just built different. Yeah. Now during your law of rights, it's just got something else. It's just it's just built different
Starting point is 00:34:05 Yeah, I do enjoy a lot of prices just built different it just has vibes to it that you can't get in Ghana angel of price But that being said, I'm also like this a man. Well one big family one big African family Jolofa I'm just I'm just glad that the debate is bringing Jolofa ice to another good idea for a new production of Romeo and Juliet Different. Oh my fucking God. This is why Romeo and Juliet is still happening. This is why we're still doing it. We're going to do so rich. There's so much that can be done in the Romeo and Juliet. We're going to do the sparkling water versus still water version.
Starting point is 00:34:34 And we're also going to do the... No, come here, Joe. I'm a friend. Joe LaFrice. Joe LaFrice is Romeo and Juliet. Yeah. Yeah. It's Romeo and Juliet, but they're different types of Joe LaFrice.
Starting point is 00:34:43 Yeah, that's good. RICIO and Jonathan. No, no. There own Jonathan. No, no, something in there. Something in there. We'll workshop it, but no, it's not done now. Ben, do you know what's actually really funny? Not as I'm sure with Jolva fat. I should say for context that Ben is, is, they know the great Benito.
Starting point is 00:34:58 I'm not that, I know who he is. The great Benito. Yeah. Okay. So I'm sort of the great Benito. And I'm doing Romeo and Juliet and the great Benito sister is the stage manager of Romeo and Juliet And so I've spent like the last eight weeks with her and she's an absolute dream But what we're doing is we're coming up with a musical
Starting point is 00:35:13 But it's just it's about shoes So like it's you're an Ellie. It's a shoes a cool Yeah me and Ellie and and a couple of the other guys in the company. It's a shoe's a cool Yeah, so it's like all the songs are just like shoe puns. And so it's like soul to soul. Jeremy or like time to heal. Like Jeremy, like just like, and so like we're coming up with tracks for this shusicle.
Starting point is 00:35:34 And so yeah, like while we're talking about different versions of Romeo and Juliet, like Ashidaw says, just put out that this shusicle is coming. Yeah. Yeah. Every day I'm just like, I try to think of like different, different, like there's what I'll be your trainer.
Starting point is 00:35:46 Like, yeah, maybe he's like, you know what I mean? He's a personal trainer and she's something, there's something in it. So the she's cool, it's coming. Okay, well I love anything where the story has to be back engineered from the pun title. Yeah, he's a personal trainer now because of the word trainer. Yeah, I'll take it. So I'm saying, that's what me and Elliot are working on. Yeah, does Elliot get a lot of respect at work?
Starting point is 00:36:06 People treated with respect. Oh, absolutely. She has like in charge, like she just yells at us all the time, we're like, we're falling like. I'm only asking that to a little bit in Ben's face about how he doesn't get any respect at obviously, I see. I see.
Starting point is 00:36:20 Yeah, yeah. I wasn't doubting Elliot, is there? How much respect you got? Just wanted to bend a knife. That's a shame. I personally wouldn't part with it, like I wouldn't. Yeah, yeah. What's the doubt in any of these, sir? How much respect you got just wanted to bend a knife? That's a shame. I personally wouldn't part with it, like I wouldn't. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:29 He doesn't really. He doesn't really. Let's just know that he doesn't like it. Did you add to the extra? All this is going on. Probably going to cut the shoes cool to say that. She's supposed to make it. I just feel like, I mean, we're trying to, I'm trying to, this is why I'm him. This is a soft, honest, the shoes are cool, right?
Starting point is 00:36:46 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, is there something about soft, soft, soft shoe? No, and see, this is the problem. Now you've said that and all my brain can do is try and come up with something about shoes. I'll take it. We now open to suggestions. Well, there's that song born slippy. I was thinking about born slip on.
Starting point is 00:37:04 Baby's born, maybe we're born slip on. Yeah. A baby's born a born slip on. Babies born maybe with women slip on. A baby's born wearing slip on. The part of you work back. There's like a hole for get a hole. But there's a full bird seed. And then they're like, this baby's got slip on. So that the baby can dance. If I don't, yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:20 Oh my God. You got to have a tap dance in number in it. At some point, obviously, for the show. Yes. I mean, yeah, we do know. Yeah, I thought people would be like what's that musical? And there's no tap dance in yes, all right, tap she has to be something in there in love with shoe But like in love with you, but like yeah, I mean I mean he does say man. There's some of the song titles I have you in it. Yeah, I will always love shoe Great Yeah, I will always love show. Yeah. That's great.
Starting point is 00:37:45 That's good. Yeah. She's cool. Coming soon. Coming soon. Get this man, or I just credit. Get this man in the right room. Oh my God, he could be a long way since the life's yet in Jollough.
Starting point is 00:37:59 Jollough. Well, that's real in Jollough. Thanks, man. Yeah, I was feeling a bit down about that. I'm John O'Hare. I'm John O'Hare. I'm John O'Hare. I'm John O'Hare. Well, that's you and John O'Hare. Thanks, man. Yeah, I was feeling a bit down about that. I'm glad I'm back on board. Your dream main course.
Starting point is 00:38:17 Okay, so this is Mom's home cooking. And it's like, when I think back to childhood memories, I'm thinking, waking up on a Saturday, really late, around lunchtime, and we a Saturday, really late around lunchtime, and we're playing my brother and I, playing Xbox upstairs. I'm a mom's whipping sign up. You can smell it.
Starting point is 00:38:32 Smells great. Pastor. Regular, regular normal load. Seemingly normal pastor with this like, again, tomato stew, tomato stew is like big and Nigerian culture. So like everything kind of has that based spicy tomato stew, but it's got like loads of different types
Starting point is 00:38:47 of like assorted meats, chopped up into like small little diced, you know, so you can just like pick it up and like everything you're eating just has everything. So like that pasta with the tomato sauce has got a bit of like tuna in it or like a sardines in it or something fishy in it and then just loads of meat on top.
Starting point is 00:39:05 That if I'm on my deathbed and someone's like, you get one more meal, that's my meal. Because it's transporting me back to 08, back when life was good, no bills, no taxes, just export schemes in the mornings and food. So that's my main meal. Joloff Rice is obviously a, yeah, it's gonna compete and it's gonna fight for that top spot. There's also pounded yam and F4. That's another Nigerian meal.
Starting point is 00:39:30 There's seafood, linguine, Italian food is some of my favorite food in the world, but I think that pasta is just it. It's just it. And what are the mates in there? They're sort of mates. Different types of meat. Now I'm a B-Rovie. I don't actually know what half of them are.
Starting point is 00:39:46 I've just been eating this as I was a kid. And so I'm like, I don't know. But there's, I should have actually just Googled it so I can know like what parts of what. But a lot of it is like beef. It's beef. We don't eat pork. I don't know. Just meat. Shaky. I don't know what Shaky is.
Starting point is 00:40:01 But I just eat it because it's dope. There's a chicken gizzard, little parts of gizzards in that as well? But it's just like different types of assorted meat and I don't really know. Yeah. It sort of does, that's part of the magic of it as well, right? Yeah. It just all comes together perfectly. Yeah. So it's like all just good edible parts of a cow. I assume.
Starting point is 00:40:20 Yeah. Maybe chicken. I see you. I don't know. This seems like the kind of dish that you'd want a massive bowl of as well. Yes. No, but I'd ask the thing. I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm Xbox? Back on it, like that's my Saturday. Like when I'm thinking back to, what's your happy place? Like when you have you and your kid, I'm like, I'm playing Gaze of War II with my brother running up and down shooting aliens. And then we run downstairs, grab a big old bowl of food, eat food, watch your football with my dad. And then run back up stairs and play video
Starting point is 00:41:01 guys. That's it. Yeah. Happiness. Put that shit in a bowl and sell it. Like, that's my dream. So, I'm not a gamer. I don't know much about computer games. Oh, yeah. What's gears of war? Gears of war. Gears of war is one of the best games ever created.
Starting point is 00:41:17 Gears of war is dope because, like, my and my older brother's relationship, I've got older brothers, he's two years older than me. Our relationship is pretty much entirely just, like, founded on our love for video games. And, like, nowadays, you play games and it's like single player and you have to play online with other people.
Starting point is 00:41:33 Back in the day, it was like split screen co-op. So, like, we're playing on the same game and it's just two of us. But basically, the idea is it's this post-apocalyptic world, aliens have come down, they're enslaving humanity and there's this, like, core of people called, like, the, like, aliens have come down. They're enslaving humanity, and there's this core of people called, like, the like, gears, I think. That's the name of this corporation.
Starting point is 00:41:50 And they have like soldiers, and there's this guy called Marcus Phoenix, who's like the biggest and the baddest soldier. Marcus Phoenix. Yeah, you could tell by that. And there's my character, who's Dom, who's like, they're like best friends. And yeah, they just like go on this trip
Starting point is 00:42:06 to try and save the world from these aliens. And you basically just run around shooting aliens for the entire time, but like you have to cooperate with each other. And so there are some times where I'm like, I cool, must have as my brother's name. You got a flag left and I want to take this side and we run around and then like,
Starting point is 00:42:23 if you get shot too much then you're down. And then it's basically like all of like fortnight and and called Julian all of this stuff like the stuff that people love about it now all of that was in gears of war from when we were kids but it was just about like these two men who were on this trip to save the world together and and that was me and my brother in my imagination and I know it's dope. It was was Marcus Phoenix and Dom, Don Santiago. I like it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Don, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:47 I knew James was going to look back to that, but it's nothing makes James laugh more than someone with a full name and then someone else with just one name. It's funny. It's funny. I'm just feeling some dumb. Dumb of a full name. No. Do you and your brother get on?
Starting point is 00:43:01 Were you getting on outside of the game, or were you like having sibling rivalry outside of the game and the game was the thing that brought you together? Yeah, it was more that, it was more that like my older brother is, he's one of my favourite people on the planet. Like genuinely, he probably is the person I love the most on the planet. Um, you know, he was always there for me, but like it was just that thing where, you know, he's two years older than me, so there was nothing I could have done that was cool. Yeah. He's just, you know, he'd be going out and playing with these friends on my mobile. I'd take to he with you and I'd just be there tagging along, like shit jokes and back for four.
Starting point is 00:43:30 So it was that it was definitely we used to fight with the time when we were kids. But then if we had to play a guess of war, it was a truce because he couldn't play the game without me. You needed both of us. So yeah, that's how I kind of etched my way into his good books. I used to do all sorts of dumb stuff. Like he was, like I'm on wood bias a toy of like a power ranger's mega sword or something and they'd only be one. So we'd like build the toy together and then he'd play with the toy and I'd play with the
Starting point is 00:43:57 box that had like a bunch of the toy. But you just like dumb all your brother stuff like that. But yeah, that was our, that was our relationship. You just like make fun of people the time and stuff. And then it got to a point where we just like grew up and we're like, yeah, actually, all right. I mean, I mean, I'll break the old thing's going to be sad to hear that your brother's the person you love most in the world because I think Brett's just always an exception.
Starting point is 00:44:20 I feel like you so much. He's got yours. His background on his phone. Do you know that? Oh, oh, wow. On your phone as well. Seven billion times. 70 pictures of Brett's face. That's all that is wrapped over each other. Wow.
Starting point is 00:44:32 Wow. This is my fit. And it's been like this for, I've had this one for months, probably the whole year at this point. Like there's never a time where I look at it and I don't find it funny. Because he's just look at the expression on his face. It's funny. He's just's just staring at you. It's good. It's very serious for a Kent face. Yeah. And it's a million times in a big spiral. I just found it on Twitter. I don't know who made it, but it's one of the funniest things. I mean, that does mean that if anyone ever comes up to you and is like, oh my god, is you for dead last time and you're not in the mood for it? And you're like, no, no,
Starting point is 00:45:01 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,. You love the breath, press your breath, get in, press it. Yeah. Yeah, if you got a good breath impression. No, no, I don't have a good. No, it's just, I was supposed to my breath impression. My breath impression is a bad Roy Kenner and it's just like growling.
Starting point is 00:45:37 Oh, Roy. Yeah, I've got problems. I've got good. Yeah, like you know what I mean? It's just, that's it. I'm running up for that. We're so, we're so. That's it.
Starting point is 00:45:46 What sort of pastor is in this? What pastor shape? It's a, I don't know what it's called. What's the one where it's like, like a little straw, like a small penny? Yes, penny. Yeah, yeah, it's penny. You can get bits of the source inside it.
Starting point is 00:45:58 And it's just, it's just, yeah, extra goodness. I think like massive bowls of pasta in my meal being a kid as well. Yeah. Like I had no, absolutely no limit remind me of being a kid as well. Yeah. Like, I had no, absolutely no limit on the amount of pasta I could eat. Yeah. Like, I still now, if I do pasta at home, I'll put in what I think it should be and then it'll come out and it's like eight portions.
Starting point is 00:46:16 Just because like from your imagination of when you're doing that. Yeah. Well, also what you're supposed to, the amount you're supposed to cook a pasta is like a small handful and that's supposed to be enough pasta. It's never enough. It's never enough. It's never enough. But then you just pour free pour. And then you get like, I was cooking back a pasta. There's always a point where I put in what I feel like looking at it, I'm like, that's not enough. And then in my head I go, that means this probably isn't enough because you always do too much.
Starting point is 00:46:43 Yeah. So just leave it now. And I never trust, I always go, no, no, just a little bit more than you're fine. And then it's too much again. I'm like, next time when you get to that moment, have the guts to just put the bag back in the cupboard. And I've still never been that, never been draven up. Never been draven up to look in the water, feel it's not enough and just put the bag back in the cup. And when I eventually do that, I'll finally be a man.
Starting point is 00:47:09 Yeah. LAUGHTER Your dream side dish. I can't remember where I had this market cheese, but those are the market cheese that I had that had like beef ragu in it with truffle oil, truffle something. And it was like truffly mac and cheese. That's already like, S tier, it's mac and cheese. And you got truffle oil and you got some beef ragu in there as well.
Starting point is 00:47:42 Yeah, I'm happy. Sounds good. I'm happy. Because like also mac and cheese is like that's the food common food. Like if you're going to eat and you get aside a mac and cheese as well, then you're done. Especially if your main dish is pasta. Very true. Yeah. Very true. You know, this is you're not even going to be able to play Gaze of War after this. I mean, yeah, yeah, it'll be a sloppy performance. Yeah, I have to be carried. Dom Santiel goes going to have to lie down in the field. Yeah. Yeah, I have to be carried. Dom Santiago is going to have to lie down in the field. Yeah. Yeah, Mac and Jesus, Mac and Jesus is the one that I'm going to go for.
Starting point is 00:48:11 I think plenty of cheese in there as well. Some Mac and Jesus. No, you can't skimp on the cheese, but I need it. I mean, I want the cheese. Because also whenever I get Jamaican food, Mac and Jesus, like the staple side that goes with it. So if I'm having like curry go and rice, Mac and cheeses like the staple side that goes with it. So if I'm having, you know, like curry go and rice, mac and cheese on the side. And it's just, it just goes with
Starting point is 00:48:30 everything. And when when you get a bad mac and cheese, unless people skimp out on the cheese, that's it. You need the pole, you need the cheese pole. You got to see it. That's the sign. You got to see it. You got to see the, I mean, the cheese I wanted to leave the rest of the cheese. Is that how you imagine it? Yeah, the cheese is like, no, my friends, my family. I don't know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're separating that cheese. You'll see them again soon. In my stomach.
Starting point is 00:48:54 Yes, yes, it was from balance. How do you know that? This is incredible. Bonito. Bonito, straight on the inter, you can Google. Yes, yes, it is from balance. But that is pretty amazing. Yeah, well done, Bonito. that that's that's your finest hour. Yeah, don't edit that out the pole. Yes, that's your finest hour. Fantastic. Everyone let it be known. That was his finest hour. Yeah, finally, you're as good as the great Elito.
Starting point is 00:49:18 I want to start calling Ellie Elyton. Is that a thing? Like, is she going to know what I'm going to be doing? She'll know about the great Benito. I'm going to call her the great Ellie Ton. I think that'll be enough. Yeah. She'll get it. And she doesn't. Why do you keep wanting me that? And then on the final day, I'll be like, it's because of Ben.
Starting point is 00:49:35 Because of Ben. Because of your brothers Benito. So, Ellie Ton. Balance. This is good. Balance. We've spent many evening in balance. Never ends well.
Starting point is 00:49:44 No? Well, look it's open so late. I think balance is what saves us from having an evening that doesn't end well. I think often we've been somewhere and then we've stayed up drinking together and there'll be a group of us. Yeah. Often, yeah, I say, I think, well, something's seen as show and he's just drinking in the say, I think, and then it closes and you're like, let's go to balance. And actually, I think that psychothia, or something. You've seen a show and he's just drinking in the psychothia, and then it closes and you're like, let's go to balance.
Starting point is 00:50:07 And actually, I think that saves the night because- He's then you eat some food. You eat some food? Yeah. I mean, the hangovers not as bad the next day. Yeah. And you eat a massive meal. I like two of it in the morning.
Starting point is 00:50:20 I didn't know they were open that late. I think they've got like full on kitchen still running every day. Yeah, great. Good to know. I mean, because now I'm like, I want to go to back because that's, that is where I had it. It's like, it's exactly, yeah. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:50:33 And it's Kuma and I went to balance on the day of the Brexit referendum results to celebrate. Yeah. We're like, yeah, we want. We want. We're pretty felt great. It felt like, Nish always compares it to being like in the pub and Shaun of the Dead during the zombie event. Like, yeah, because we was there and it just felt like everyone is there.
Starting point is 00:50:57 And it was like, I was just staying balanced forever. It just felt like a little bit of a, you know, the world's ended. That's all staying here. Yeah. The macadj cheese isn't incredible. I'm going to get it. I'm going to get it. It's so happy.
Starting point is 00:51:06 I'm so happy. I know that. I'm going back. It's like, this is podcast just become like an advert for that. You can see it. Yeah. Well, they'll love it. They'll probably invite you down from mac and cheese.
Starting point is 00:51:15 Yeah. Be better than when you invite you to the White House. Yeah. You've got biscuits. Yeah. You're going to mac and cheese. I want to ask for banana there. Give you whatever you want.
Starting point is 00:51:26 The White House was great. No one thinks he's like enough of the White House. It's just incredible. I think about it sometimes, I don't know how we end up. Those are the two things that I think Ted Lasso has done for me. Other than raising my profile and giving me a career and a launching pad and all of that stuff, the fact that we ended up at the White House
Starting point is 00:51:46 and the fact that we are in FIFA somehow. Yeah. Oh yeah. It's the stupidest. I'm like, I don't get that. Like, there are some people who have spent their entire lives trying to be professional footballers. Who aren't in FIFA? I haven't reached a TV show for three years.
Starting point is 00:52:00 I've been wearing FIFA. We have great stats. I think that's why I'm so... I'm like, so funny so funny because like, I have not an 89 pace, but somehow Samo Bessanio is and he has my face somehow, I'm 89 pace and FIFA and I don't have a balance. Yeah, the stats come from the characters rather than the people playing. Absolutely. 100 million percent. Absolutely. But I have seen which way to get it, then I just had to do it all the time. I don't know how you got such good stats on FIFA.
Starting point is 00:52:24 Not a season three. Yeah. I see the three were doing well. Yeah. We get Zava and Zava's like half of it, but then we figure it out. We figure it out. We have potential.
Starting point is 00:52:32 I think that's what's great as well. It's because it sounds really young, but it sounds really young. And so by the end of it, if you play career mode, which I've done many times, it sounds just cold. Like, he's just really, really good.
Starting point is 00:52:41 I'm like, yeah, I'll take it. Zava didn't make the FIFA team, team today. He is now. What the? I think they added him up to the end of it for like two episodes. But it's off. Like, yeah, it's off. It's where we're like, like, because obviously we know all the back, we know what happens off the pitch to all your characters as well. So sometimes you might be getting ready to play and you're like, Sam's still his heart's broken.
Starting point is 00:53:06 Maybe I shouldn't play Sam to play Sam's heart, but I believe he's on the bench. Got a broken heart. No, he needs to go and look after the restaurant. Yeah, yeah, Sam was late today. It's cooking. So you're in FIFA, but surely the dream is, gears of war. Yeah, I don't know if they're still making it. What if they, well, make Gears of War again? Ted Lasso version.
Starting point is 00:53:26 What the fuck? What's the fun? So you? Ted Lasso version of a zombie alien apocalypse. Yeah. It's exactly the same, but the two characters are Ted Lasso characters. One of them is your character and who's the other character. So would you want to replace Dom?
Starting point is 00:53:40 If it's the Ted Lasso character, you have to replace Dom. So who would be the other one? Oh. Because you've got a load of options here for fighting aliens. place, Dom. If it's the Ted Lasso hamster, you have your person, Dom. So who'd be the other one? Because you got a load of options here for fighting aliens. I guess you've got a character who just wants to be kind. You've got a very angry, violent man who, but who was kind of past his best, who looks, who looks like he should be in a game like that. Yeah, but it's perhaps, I'm sorry, I can't say first, wasn't a kid to mind. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:10 But there's also like coach beard as well. I'm like, he knows some shit. Yeah. That's just him. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. He can survive that guy.
Starting point is 00:54:19 Exactly. Maybe I need some of that. Like Sam's already going to like try to appeal to the better angels of zombies and the aliens. I don't know. I think maybe you just need some chaos try to appeal to the better angels of zombies and the aliens. I don't know, I think maybe you just need some chaos like to match with that. So I think it either be Roy or be Coach Beard. I think those are the two people that I'm like,
Starting point is 00:54:34 I think Coach Beard's just the X-Factors. So it's a piece of a bit of a wild card. You don't know what he's gonna come up with. Yeah, that's the thing. If you want to match the main character, do you really want such a wild card? Or do you want the guy who far, as biggest farts all the time at the aliens? I've taken Danny Rohas with these miraculously egg-related growing hair.
Starting point is 00:54:53 If that's the superpower, if it's like you can like use it to do stuff, like attach it to like grab people in their hair. Like by an actor. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I throw them off buildings. So maybe, yeah, Sam and Danny Rohas, we're going a little... Make it happen. ...killing spring. Make it happen if you're listening. Put it out into your world. and I throw them on the buildings. So maybe, yeah, Sam and Danny Rojas, we've gone a little, make it happen. Killingspring. Make it happen if you're listening.
Starting point is 00:55:07 Put it out into the world. Gays of Water Team. Gays of Water. Got an idea. And a musical, if you want to buy it. Gays of Water, we're going to put juice to the shoes of water. No. Your dream drink.
Starting point is 00:55:26 Dream drink. All right. This one is one where I really, it's a dog fight because there's quite a few. Some pride. Please tell me you guys know about some pride. I know about it. Never drank. Yes.
Starting point is 00:55:38 Never drank some pride. Never drank some pride. I grew up off some pride. He's the joker of the kite in there. But like some pride, elite, fan of fruit But like Sunpride, Elite, Fanta Fruit Twist, Elite, Elite. Yeah. Elite. Yeah. Elite. Best in peace. Is it done? They're getting rid of it, aren't they? Well, they're chained, aren't they making it a fan to flavour? So they're falling
Starting point is 00:55:56 under the fan to umbrella. So it's going to be fun to call it an apple and coconut or something. It won't be called Lilt anymore. It won't be called Lilt anymore. How do you feel about that? I'm not sure. I feel about that. Sad ain't it? Part of it is like, do not stard your effect. Yeah. But I mean, I'm happy it's still around. I'm happy people are not just like counting it completely.
Starting point is 00:56:11 Sure. But, no, I didn't tend to do it. But you have no idea how much I had to hold back from not making a joke when you say counting it completely there. Every like, I just turned into a dad. I was like, I've got to make a joke about a cannon. I'm glad you can try. I'm going gonna control myself because we all know what's happened
Starting point is 00:56:27 And we're all grown-ups. So I'm just gonna leave it. I didn't even think about it. No. I was too sad about Bill This is morning. I'll be leaving more than I've agreed that dead pipe Sun pride some pride little Some pride. Some pride, little five and three twist. Because there's also like, you know, like, black grape, K.A. Just like iconic. I'm being really nostalgic. Like I think, oh my best and favorite stuff is childhood stuff.
Starting point is 00:56:55 You can't go wrong with an Apple juice as well. Like, because that's my favorite juice of all time. But I think all of them are battling it out for my attention. But I've got to go for jamming the the golden child, which is bottled phanta. So it's regular phanta. But in a glass bottle. Okay. Have you ever had one of those? No. Yeah. Yeah. In Kenya. That's the other place. Yes. I've heard it. Yes. So when I was in Nigeria, this was just what phanta was. And then we came over here and it's like, where's all the sugar in you lots Fanta?
Starting point is 00:57:27 Like why is your Fanta? I don't know, I don't know. But I think also the fact that it comes in that bottle is what makes it elite. And there's just something about, listen, pop that cap off with your teeth or with a bottle opener if you care about your dental health. And back back, you know, I call it Nigeria in Fanta
Starting point is 00:57:42 or African Fanta. I don't know if it's, I don't know if we probably didn't invent it. But I mean, I don't know if it's the same as in Kenya, but like, I think about that fan-tool all the time. It's so good. I think it's probably because there's like, I guess over here, we, there's a certain amount of sugar you can have in stuff before. Right.
Starting point is 00:57:58 Is it more sugar? Is that what it is? I don't, I don't, I don't, I assume so. I think that's where it is because I'm like, what could it be? Because there's a different color. Like it's a different one. Yeah, it's more like more like day glow orange, like full orange. I'm not trying to get a picture of it for you because you mentioned this fancier to me before. I've mentioned it before. I think about it a lot. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:15 I would really like it. It was nearly, it was in contention for my drain drink when we did our menus. It was what, because well, we were doing a drink for every course. Yeah. I was looking at the difference between that colour phanta. Yeah. It's colour phanta. Yeah. I was up to yellow compared. That is like a strong orange. Yeah. I mean, it comes up as Nigerian phanta. If you weren't toilet and the colour was Nigerian phanta, you'd be more worried than if it was UK phanta. Sure. Yeah. Fanta you'd be more worried than if it was UK Fanta. Sure. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:46 And we're talking number one. Number one. Yeah. Number two, both Fanta. It looks like Fanta. You got the daughter. My number two looks like Fanta, which continent? Incontinent. That's a problem. Brilliant. The cabins getting on top. Get in the mood to the musicals. I'm excited about this because a lot of it is something that I think about a lot of
Starting point is 00:59:19 I only went once I was 21. Oh yeah. So it's a distant memory now and something that I always think about is that drink. Okay. Benito has shown me a screen. Yes. It says, Nigeria and I'm fan-ter has a lower carbonation and uses real sugar instead of fructose corn syrup.
Starting point is 00:59:35 Oh, that is. That's what it is. Maybe there's the real sugar that's great. Why don't they do that? Mexican cola a lot, right? And how Mexican colas way better? because they use like cane sugar and like properly put sugar in it. So maybe it's like a similar thing where maybe it is, but whatever it is, it's a superior
Starting point is 00:59:55 product. Yeah, it is. And you can get it in some like African restaurants here, bottled fanta is, it's my number one drink. And my men we have it is that it's not just, we have like Fanta here, you drink it and it's like, when it hits your tongue, that flavour, that's what you're getting from the moment until you swallow it. But when I was in Kenya, it felt like there was something more going on. You hit the tongue, you get that initial flavour, but then that would evolve in your mouth.
Starting point is 01:00:22 It wasn't just that one orange flavour and that was it. Yeah. I felt that there was more drinking wine. It was Dr. Drinking a fine wine. Meeting a blog. Let me see the blog. I invite this blog, by the way, just so you know, it's not made. Sure. This blog says, all of you reading this would have probably had phanta before. However, you might not have known that phanta has a variety of different recipes across the world. And whilst you have probably seen an increase in amount of American soft drinks, the amount of corded shops, today we are focusing on a Phantasra from Nigeria. I'm claiming it is Nigerian phantasra. I'm taking it.
Starting point is 01:00:55 I'm taking it. Pair just in a glass bottle, which elevates to any drink is what they say straight away. No, it doesn't that short. It's more than makes up for it in depth of flavor and the level of refreshment it provides. Yes, I agree. Even though it tastes less natural, it says that she can count apart. Where's my memory is that it tastes more natural. How natural does a phanta taste anyway? Yeah, sure, a mouse one, not people are drinking. It's not what you want when you have phanta. You're not like, I can't wait for a lovely natural taste. It's, yeah, it's number one. It has to be number one.
Starting point is 01:01:25 It's just, what about a gunna in Fanta? Don't do this. Don't do this. Don't do this. I don't think they even have a Fanta. So there's no gerry wind again. So how can their geloth rice be better?
Starting point is 01:01:37 We don't have a Fanta to do it. We supposed to drink. Right, you know what I mean? Yeah, man. Yeah. Geloth rice gives it under the Fanta. Maybe some Coastal on the side as well. We supposed to drink. I mean, yeah. Jolof Rice gizzard and do do fan. Maybe some Coastal on the side as well. Oh, should I Coastal or somewhere?
Starting point is 01:01:51 Coastal can't go with my with my main though. I can't have pasta. We can add that to the side dishes. Yeah. Again, I have to say this isn't one meat like this isn't, I mean, this is just, it's a whole of fame. Yeah, it's just whole of fame items. Yeah. But if they all, if they did all come out together, you would be happy it was a whole of fame. It was a whole of fame. Yeah, it was just whole of fame items.
Starting point is 01:02:05 Yeah. But if they all, if they did all come out together, you would be happy though. I would be happy. Yeah. Yeah. Like, I wouldn't be happy to share it with other people. Like, it's not going to, it's not going to work for you,
Starting point is 01:02:15 but I'm, I'm vibing. Like, I'm taking it. I actually think this would work for me, you know? Yeah. Yeah. It still sounds delicious. I love it. I think we should go to an adieu restaurant
Starting point is 01:02:24 and like, we'd get most of this stuff. And I think, genuinely, if you guys are foodies, I think you'd really enjoy it. Yeah, I'm so, I'm bored with that. I love it. I think we should go to an IJU restaurant. I'm like, we'd get most of this stuff. And I think, genuinely, if you guys are foodies, I think you'd really enjoy it. Yeah, I'm so on board with that. I love that. Inish, did you say it? Yeah, I used to live there. Like, got to a point where I was like, I was just there all the time.
Starting point is 01:02:35 She's good, Nigerian food. It's small as well. It's music playing. It's like Afrobeats playing the back. And you can just sit down, chill with your friends. Like, I got on my birthday, just like grab a couple of friends just sit down and eat. So I'm nice.
Starting point is 01:02:46 Yeah. Like what I think of like sounds restaurant in in Teblasso. There's so much of it that that comes from from my experiences that in it. Like it's got the same kind of vibe and similar food and so yeah. Well, bad news is you can never go there again. Now you set on the podcast and now you've absolutely blown a piss off. Very true. Your dream does that? Dream does that.
Starting point is 01:03:10 It's a cake. Now there are many cakes. Yes. Yes. That's fact. Run hold onto your seats. There are many times of cake. Victoria's Bunch.
Starting point is 01:03:21 Yeah. Stayful. There's like school cake and custard. Mm-hmm. Iconic. Yeah. Like iconicle. There's like school cake and custard iconic. Yeah. Like iconic. I used to go back for seconds and people would look at me like I was weird, but like cake and custard from school.
Starting point is 01:03:30 Yeah. Absolutely. Incredible. I'm back for seconds when I was a classroom assistant. He's very, very young grown up. Yeah, it's a classroom assistant for about nine months. And Friday was always the chocolate cake and chocolate custard. I'll get back and get it.
Starting point is 01:03:44 The chocolate custard I never got behind. No, it was never for me. That chocolate cake, chocolate custard. Nothing tastes of chocolate in that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's definitely something else. Yeah, yeah. Oh yeah, none of it tastes like it always tasted sweet, but I couldn't really put my finger on it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But yeah, to help with it. Go up to the kids watching you. There's like small little bowls. Yeah, all the kids were spattered before. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. They're like, oh no, you're like him.
Starting point is 01:04:07 They all said that, did they? Good on you, man. Wow. I guess so cool. I could tell them if I get it. LAUGHTER But like, the cake itself is great, but like with the custard, iconic.
Starting point is 01:04:18 But there's a carrot cake that my dad used to bring back from. Work. And I think he used to get from like a cafe, Cafe Nero, or like, he does catering in a hospital. dad used to bring back from work. And I think he used to get from like a cafe narrow or like what he does catering in a hospital. And I think he was at a cafe narrow or something at the time. And he used to bring back this carrot cake
Starting point is 01:04:32 from there from work. And it was just the most succulent thing I'd ever eaten. Like he'd bring it back and it got to the point where like he'd always bring something back from work and it'd be in the fridge, like it'd be a chocolate or it'd be this one. If it was the carrot cake, he'd have to bring something else because I was always going to eat the carrot cake.
Starting point is 01:04:48 Like it doesn't matter who he said it was for. He'd be like, oh no, I brought this one for today. Oh, I brought this for a month today. I'm eating that carrot cake. There's not for you to say to me about it. It was just the consistency of it was perfect. It was just the right amount of like soft and flavorful and like not too much frosting. I'm not a big frosting
Starting point is 01:05:05 guy. Just everything was just it coming this little bag like scrape little bits off the side of the bag as well. Like it was just it's perfect. It's perfect. Cach cake has to be yeah like I said that people go on about cakes being moist, but that has to be you have. Because if it's not you're in trouble. Yeah. The moist is the moist is the right. Is that your favorite cake? King of the cakes. Moist is the right, is that your favourite cake? King of the cakes. Caracook, easy. I mean, there's people looking like a whir, sometimes I'm
Starting point is 01:05:29 a bit nervous. King of the cakes before. King of the cakes. King of the cakes. I'm happy to hear that. Like this, as you've seen. But it's pretty much all, I've never had a bad dry carrot cake because, because you're putting like wet
Starting point is 01:05:41 carrot in, right? So it's always moistening it up. I made one once, the proudest thing I've ever been in a minute. Made a carrot cake, right? But using oil instead of other stuff, and it's just like, I've only grained it that. It's so moist. I was a member for oil.
Starting point is 01:05:53 Yeah, you use oil. Oh my God. Mad. I was supposed to be working on a panel show. I was calling a panel show the next day, and I had a lot of work to do, and instead I made a carrot cake. That's fine. That's why I don't know if you've ever seen Ed on a panel show. next day and I had a lot of work to do instead of medicare a cake. That's fine. That's why I don't know if you've ever seen Ed on a panel show.
Starting point is 01:06:07 Sorry, you rubbish. No, you're not. Oh, my jokes are about a character. How does it make a character? No, I've made the edit. Do you know you can put oil in it? Just cut it like a shot, it's doing it half an hour, like a medium. Do it anything for a map.
Starting point is 01:06:21 Yeah, he's happy. He's for the cake. Yeah, more soft. I love. Soft. I love curing. Curricade. Delicious. It's yeah, especially that enough. Yeah. Again, I don't know what happened. I think where dad, like, when it started working somewhere, I should probably know what my dad does for a living, but I started working somewhere else. And, and yeah, it's just, yeah, it's not coming. But the memory lives on in here. You know what? I never trust is a carrot cake that has a on the icing a little carrot on it.
Starting point is 01:06:47 Yeah, I was going to ask you about this. I've seen a carrot on it. I always think that's the mark of a bad carrot cake. Yeah, they're doing too much. Oh, yeah. I think they're just trying to make up for the fact that carrot cake's not that good. They just put a little carrot on there. I don't mind it.
Starting point is 01:06:59 No, I mean, the one the one that I loved that it didn't have that. I didn't need it. I didn't need to have a little baby carrot on it. It's like eat the carrot cake and see. Imagine, you're gonna imagine that carrot. We're gonna see you. I'll say it's their warning people. It's a carrot cake.
Starting point is 01:07:14 You actually don't like carrot cake. What do you think of all these cakes that are now like, oh, they do a courgette cake or no, it's not for me. No, it's not for me, man. Just keep it. It was good. Imagine, I mean, we don't need that. We're doing too much. Like, we're doing way too much of it. No, it's not for me, man. Just keep it, it was good, like, you know what I mean? We got carrots. We don't need that.
Starting point is 01:07:25 We're doing too much, like, we're doing way too much of it. Just leaving. Just let it be. Courset. Why do you need a Courset cake? Who needs that for? Who's that for? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:34 Like, who's the demographic for, like, for Courset cakes? It's not me. It's not, they made that for me, man. I'm gonna make a carrot cake this week. Yeah. Because you can put so much like you put like ginger in it or like different spices. Yeah, yeah. You're all spice in it.
Starting point is 01:07:50 Oh. I actually want to try some of it. Like, do you guys cook like are you big into cooking? It does a lot. I do. You do. You do a lot. Yeah, but not as an Ed can cook a proper mate.
Starting point is 01:07:59 I'm just doing basic stuff. I am notoriously bad at cooking. Yeah. Like, you go back and watch Ted Lacer in that episode where I'm cooking with my dad. Look at the chopping technique. Tell me if that man cooks frequently. Did they not want to get some, you know, a dummy pair of hands? I asked them.
Starting point is 01:08:16 I specifically asked. I was like, he see my hands. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I'm chopping, my friends must have been a light to him. You've exploded something.
Starting point is 01:08:25 Out in your soul, right? Yeah, I'm not. I'm not a good guy. We've got Dustin Sands. Dustin Sands in there from Stranger Things. Yeah. The Kid from Stranger Things. Is he good at it?
Starting point is 01:08:34 A lot of the time his hands are used in shots when it's not him. Really? Yeah, just a good hand. He's knows what he's doing, but he's got a variety of skills. I see. And a lot of the time they cut to his hands instead of someone else's hands. That's a joke from an old episode to him.
Starting point is 01:08:48 You don't need to engage him on that. I mean, I think it's funny. I think my job is that I don't explain the jokes and I'm like, I'm just like, I don't know who Justin is. The stranger thing's kid. Yeah. Oh, I see. Oh, I don't know who Justin is. And so I'm like, the stranger thing's kid. Oh, I see it. Oh, okay, cool. It does, isn't it?
Starting point is 01:09:07 Yeah. Gain and matter that. Yes. Yes, it's okay. Well, that makes me want to say that. But you need anything with the carrot cake, or you just go in straight carrot cake. Because this is a, this is a, this is a, this could be a way, it's to be a loophole. If there's like a favorite ice cream you've got, and you wanted to have the ice cream with
Starting point is 01:09:21 the carrot cake on the side. See, I didn't think about this. And then you can have like two favorite desserts. I played it, I played side. See, I didn't think about this. And then you can have like two favorite desserts. I played it, I played it honestly. And I didn't think about it. Cream with custard. Caracane with custard. I'd do it.
Starting point is 01:09:32 Caracane with custard. Go back for seconds, high five and all the kids. How do I feel about this? I feel like I'm happy with my carrot cake. Yeah. Well, I'm gonna, I could say I could put a vanilla ice cream on the side. And people are gonna roast me because, you know,
Starting point is 01:09:44 like I like vanilla ice cream, because somehow that's basic. But I don't care. Sure. I don't care. It's a good vanilla ice cream. It's just good. You can't hate on it. Like it's good. It's good. I don't know how I'm getting defensive. Like it's a pop of vanilla pods. Vanilla pods. What's that? It's got to have like a pop of vanilla pods in it. Yeah. What's the little black? It's a little custody. And yeah, so there's the little black dots in it. You can see they've scraped
Starting point is 01:10:05 the vanilla pods into the, you see, this is levels of that's where you get the creamiest most custody of vanilla ice cream. It's great. All right. Cool. I'm going to look at this. Yeah. That's not what I was going to show them, but I'm, excuse me, show me the pods.
Starting point is 01:10:17 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think you've got to be very specific about what you mean if you're walking to a shop and going up to someone and saying, let me see them pods. You're bad for my eyes. You're bad for my eyes. You're bad for my eyes.
Starting point is 01:10:31 You're bad for my eyes. You're bad for my eyes. You're bad for my eyes. You're bad for my eyes. You're bad for my eyes. You're bad for my eyes. You're bad for my eyes. You're bad for my eyes.
Starting point is 01:10:39 You're bad for my eyes. You're bad for my eyes. You're bad for my eyes. You're bad for my eyes. You're bad for my eyes. You're bad for my eyes. You're bad for my eyes. You're bad for my eyes. You're you feel about it. You want still water. Definitely. Also, here's a regular podcast, the Ed really enjoys this. Whenever I have to read a menu that has words,
Starting point is 01:10:49 I'm not familiar with, I get really nervous about pronouncing them. Yes, when you were making the choice between your starter and calamari, I could feel James going, I've got a Hobie-Bix calamari. How? How?
Starting point is 01:11:00 You would like a gay gay bread? A gay gay bread, yes. The salted butter, starter. Oh, I forgot about that. Oh, my God. Oh, that's good. That's good bread? Yes. Resort it butter, stuff. Oh, I forgot about that. Oh my god. Oh, that's good. That's good. This is good.
Starting point is 01:11:08 Okay, cool. Gives the dough from anish, Mancosh, penne pasta, and tomato sauce of a sort of meat, and something fishy. Yeah. Side dish, beef or goo mac and cheese with truffle from balance.
Starting point is 01:11:18 Yes. And also we'll throw some coalslaw in there for you. Yeah, yeah. Drink, you want a bottle of Nigerian phanta to serve carrot cake from your dad's work. Yes. With optional for another ice cream. But I think we landed on now. Yeah, I'm I'm fine with that. That carrot cake doesn't need doesn't need any help. Yeah, it's good.
Starting point is 01:11:34 That that's a that's a list, man. You feel good? I'm I'm happy with that. Yeah, I'm taking that. I'm taking that every day. Like that's a that's a list that I I'm dying on this hill. Yeah, it doesn't like me every day. Like that's a, that's a list that I, I'm dying on this hill. Yeah. It doesn't really like me, bro. Like, if there's anything on that, I'm, I will fight to the death for every single item that I've got on that list. Yeah. I'm proud of it.
Starting point is 01:11:53 I'm like, yeah. I'm, I'm excited to try stuff on it. And then also you've got a carrot cake. So, yeah. I want to try your carrot cake. Yeah, I'll make another one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll bring you some. This is good. Wait, to the Ted Lasso set. No, I'll put it there. It's going to be another, I mean, you know, they're saying it Yeah, I'll make another one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll bring you some.
Starting point is 01:12:05 This is good. To the Ted Lasso set. I'll put it there. I mean, you know, the saying is not going to be another one, but uh... Well, I'll put it on the stage at Romeo and Juliet. It's like halfway through. Eat it while you're potato to be dead. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:18 That's what the kiss I die. I was not as good as one my dad brought for. Wonder what my dad's job is. Could you guys think of any shoe puns? Thank you very much, Steve. No, thank you guys so much for having me. This is great. Thank you. Well, there we go. What a great way to kick off the series would to heave their James.
Starting point is 01:12:48 He was very happy with his menu. I think that's the happiest someone's been with their menu. Yes. Where it's like they were really, you know, they didn't know going in how they're going to feel about it. They had a lot of honorable mansions trying to decide between different dishes. And then at the end, he heard his menu, they backed him and was delighted. Yeah. I'd say, um, Babatunde probably happier with his menu. I can't remember that.
Starting point is 01:13:10 Well, after everything he said, he said, let's go. Oh, yeah, yeah. He was, but he was happy. He was a child. Yeah. Yeah. But fantastic to have to hebe on. Don't forget, uh, he's in Romeo and Juliet at the helmet of theatre at the moment until the 29th of July. I think it's selling out, though. So you've got to be quick. You better be quick. Get down and see to heave in that. This is like to heaves in it. It's Shakespeare, two of the big hitters to heave in Shakespeare. Yeah. It is stage managed by the great Elito. Yeah. Let's not forget that. If you want to see some high quality stage management. Yes. And even better because to he he did not say,
Starting point is 01:13:45 how many English deepest gets in a small pink box? Yes. I bought them up cheekily. You did. And you know, slap on the wrist for that because you shouldn't put the secret ingredient in someone's head. Yes.
Starting point is 01:13:56 Then they might say it. And then it's your fault. You got to kick him out. Naughty boy. Thank you very much to Teheep for coming in. Thank you for listening. We will see you next week for episode two of series ten. Wow, that's how it works.
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