Off Menu with Ed Gamble and James Acaster - Ep 218: Jada Pinkett Smith
Episode Date: January 24, 2024The Dream Restaurant reopens for business for its 11th season, and our first diner of the new series is actor, author and talk-show host Jada Pinkett Smith.Jada Pinkett Smith’s book ‘Worthy’ is ...out now in Hardback, published by Forth Estate. Buy it here.Follow Jada on Twitter @jadapsmith and Instagram @jadapinkettsmithRecorded and edited by Ben Williams for Plosive.Artwork by Paul Gilbey (photography and design).Follow Off Menu on Twitter and Instagram: @offmenuofficial.And go to our website www.offmenupodcast.co.uk for a list of restaurants recommended on the show.Watch Ed and James's YouTube series 'Just Puddings'. Watch here. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Ed. Yeah, man. I'm hungry for some political comedy from a very silly boy. Got any recommendations?
Yes, my tour, Hot Diggity Dog, starts in March. Very exciting. I'm sort of doing March at the end of April, and then I'm doing May and June, really.
But it's a great show. It starts soon. Tickets are on sale now. I'm doing Five Nights at the Hackney Empire in June. It's political comedy from a very silly boy. Thanks for asking.
What if I wanted to go and see political comedy from a very silly boy?
And by the way, by the way, Benito, you're going to have to include my tour plug in it,
because Nish isn't paying for this. Yeah, Nish isn't paying for this.
Yeah, it's just because, Benito, because you're promoting the tour. You think you can use us? This is this is tour. This is tour promo.
This is Nishes tour promo. This don't kill my vibe. Nish don't kill my vibe. Look, the
show's going to be brilliant. Nish is always brilliant. Tickets out on Friday. Tickets
are released on Friday. He's a fantastic comedian. It's going to be, it's going to
be brilliant. He'll love this. He'll absolutely love this. And look, just because the promoter of that show is also our producer, he so happens to have
the biggest advertising platform in the UK. Yes, congratulations, Nish. And I just want
everyone to know that Nish is a tight arse. He's a little tight arse. So that means he really badly
needs your money. So you need to buy tickets and go and see them.
And that little tight ass will keep that money.
So do go and buy tickets.
Tickets are out on Friday.
Friday.
Nish, don't kill my vibe.
Tickets are available from nishkuma.co.uk.
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James, it's the Scotch Egg of podcast. That is it Gamble. My name is James Eggcaster. Together
we own a dream restaurant and every single week we invite a guest and ask them a guest. A guest.
And ask them their favourite ever, starter, main course, dessert, side dish and drink. Not in that order. And this week our guest
is Jada Pinkett Smith. Jada Pinkett Smith. Come on.
Needs no introduction. Amazing actor. Author as well. The new book, Worthy is out.
A memoir. Very interesting sounding memoir, James. There's a lot of stuff in there.
It covers a lot of topics about Jada's life,
some pretty juicy chats in there as well
about the slap heard around the world.
I don't know what you're talking about.
You don't know what you're talking about, what that is.
I'll stay out of that stuff.
Okay, cool.
But what's gonna really annoy people,
I'd imagine in this conversation,
as it always does when we have big celebs in, is we're not mining for any of that stuff, really.
We're going to talk to Jada about the book Worthy, which is out now. But we really just
want to know Jada's dream menu.
Yeah, that's how we properly get to know people. And if you don't like that, then,
if I'm not, is this up to you?
Yeah. It's the first episode of series 11, James.
Series 11? Are you kidding me?
Nope. How long has this been going for? 11 years?
The most controversial this podcast could get
is if Jada picks the secret ingredient.
Yes. The ingredient which we have deemed to be unacceptable
and then, as we've all guessed,
we will have to kick her out of the Dream Restaurant.
We will indeed.
And today, the secret ingredient is...
Kinder Bueno Hippo.
Kinder Bueno Happy Hippos. Yeah, yes. Kinder Bueno Happy Hippppo. Kinder Bueno Happy Hippos.
Yeah, yes. Kinder Bueno Happy Hippos. Kinder Bueno Happy Hippos.
And it's taken us a while to get to that, and here's our thinking. Yes.
Jada Pinkett Smith was one of the voices in the hip film Madagascar.
Her character was a hippo. Yes. Gloria. Gloria the hippo.
Originally, I suggested hippo meet. Yes.
And these guys said they don't think that's a thing.
Yep.
Well, I'm sure it is a thing in maybe some places,
but it doesn't feel right for the podcast.
So we're going to go with Kinder Bueno Hungry Hippos,
which have been selected on the podcast before.
What's the matter?
Happy Hippos.
Not Hungry Hippo.
Yeah, Hippo won.
So the OAB did choose to have the Happy Hippo.
Kinder Bueno Happy Hippo. But that wasn't the secret ingredient have the happy hippo. Kinder Bueno happy hippo.
But that wasn't the secret ingredient at the time.
So she was staying in the mess drum.
But if Jada Pinkett Smith picks it,
we will have to kick her out the dream mess drum.
Oh, you know, she's over here in the UK, maybe, you know,
she's needed a quick snack
and she's run into like a corner shop.
And she's grabbed the first thing she's seen,
which is a Kinder Bueno happy hippo.
And she's taken that back to a taxi or whatever and she's eaten and she's gone, that's the kinder bueno happy hippo. And she's taken that back to a taxi or whatever
and she's eaten and she's gone, that's the best thing I've ever had. I'm going to tell those boys
about it. And if she mentions it, we are kicking her out the restaurant. This is the off menu menu of
Welcome Jada to the Dream Restaurant. Thank you. Welcome Jada Pinkett Smith to the Dream Restaurant. We've been expecting you for some time. Oh nice. I mean look we're very excited
to have you here. So excited. We're over the moon to hear your dream menu and chat to you
about your new book. Worthy. Worthy, indeed.
It's a memoir.
Yes, somewhat of one.
Yeah, just kind of on one line of my journey from unlovable to lovable.
I did leave out a whole lot.
But yeah, it's been quite a journey.
How do you decide where to start with a memoir?
When you sit down to write something like this,
is it easy to find the beginning?
Well, yeah, because once you really figure out
the theme of the book, right?
Instead of like, oh, I'm gonna sit down
and write about my life, right?
I had a specific theme.
So I was like, okay, let's start at the beginning
of how you develop these false ideas of feeling unlovable.
And that started with childhood.
And then, you know, once I decided to write the book,
I did a whole outline of what the journey looked like
because through all the therapy that I've been through,
I've been able, you know, I've had to go back and forth
through the timeline of my life
and kind of pick out certain moments.
So yeah, I, you know, that was the easy part.
It was actually writing the book
that was the most difficult, having to go back
to all of those memories specifically childhood.
I was like, no wonder I dropped out of therapy
so many times.
I wasn't supposed to talk about this.
But yeah, but it's been a, it was a really,
it was a worthy experience for sure.
Did you find that as you were writing,
new memories were coming up
that you didn't even know were sort of stowed back there,
or were they always at the surface,
ready for you to write about?
Yeah, I think the memories were always there,
but I think new perspectives around the memories, right?
And then like seeing things differently,
like, oh, didn't see that quite that way. You know,
yeah, that had, I had quite a few aha moments like that. Yeah. Yeah. Which was really nice.
And the book maybe gives you then more, when you have those moments, they go, right, I can say
that in my next therapy session, and that fuels the next book. Exactly. Exactly. There you go.
You said that you've been told to a lot of people
about this book and they all kind of find different things
that they connect to with it as well.
But when you wrote it, did you anticipate that
or did you think this is gonna be for a specific type
of person, really about a specific thing?
Well, no, I definitely felt like it was gonna have,
different people were going to like different things
about it, you know, I mean, even my metal journey, you know, the wild banshee chapter.
It was all about my metal music journey for six years.
And so I knew that there would be certain people that have been on that journey with
me that would be like, hey, Wicked Wisdom.
Wicked Wisdom.
Yes.
I'm a proper like first wave new metal kid.
Okay.
So I remember Wicked Wisdom from back in the day.
Absolutely, Osfest and all of that.
Yeah.
And so, you know, really what my journey was like doing that.
See?
There's something in there.
There you go, absolutely connect to that for sure.
And that's been really nice.
It really has been.
And I mean, I would expect you guys would
maybe connect to the garden part.
I mean, that's probably the food, the most food interest.
Yes, absolutely.
Let's love this garden.
I don't know.
I don't know.
It's like, like you talk about the metal part of the book
and then all this stuff,
you've had an incredibly varied career.
Yeah, for sure.
And that was the one thing that, I mean,
cause while you're in it, you don't really realize that part.
But I was going through my timeline of the journey
that I picked and then I was thinking about
all the things that I was leaving out.
I was like, yo, you have lived a life, you know?
And so I was like, good job.
I mean, you know, and with that comes the sunshine
and the rain, that's just part of it.
And you just learn to love it all.
And that's what it's about.
It's pretty good to be writing a memoir and going,
I'm leaving a lot of stuff out.
Yeah, a whole lot of stuff.
I was like, damn, I didn't even really scratch the surface,
but it's okay, cool.
You know what I mean?
Just like all the great people that I got to meet,
like Mandela, I got to spend so much time with him.
He's not even in the book.
The Obamas, like all these like great people.
You know what I mean?
I spent like real time with it.
And I'm like, damn, they're not, you know.
Did you, have you sent them a message to let them know
they've not made the cut?
No, I didn't.
Obamas, have you read them?
Well, surely the next chapter, I mean,
flicking to the back, clicking in the table of contact.
Exactly.
Come on.
Yeah.
So we'll see.
Maybe there'll be another one.
I don't know.
I think so.
Yeah.
Now, are you a foodie, Jada?
Would you call yourself a foodie?
Are you into food?
That's why I was like, this is so interesting
because I talk about this in the book
where my grandmother probably was the only, the only West Indian woman that I know
that can't cook, like go down in the kitchen,
you know what I mean?
And so she would make stuff like cow tongue
with cream cheese in the crock pot.
Yeah, okay.
And her whole thing to me was,
hey, food is not meant to be enjoyed,
it is for nutrition.
And that's how I grew up.
So I have a very interesting relationship with food.
I'm still struggling to connect.
I can understand those two viewpoints of one,
being an amazing cook and foods about joy and love.
And then also I can understand people
who like foods about nutrition.
I'm still struggling to see where cow tongue
and cream cheese fits into either of those.
That part, yeah, I'm with you on that.
Cause they don't fit either category.
Sure. Yeah.
So that's how I grew up.
You know, so I do like food.
I'm starting to enjoy food,
but I wouldn't say that I'm a foodie,
but my daughter is a hardcore foodie,
and so is Will, hardcore foodie.
So I've had to learn how to enjoy meals.
So this is almost the start of another journey for you.
Yeah, exactly.
So you've got about nine books lined up here, Jaden.
Exactly.
For sure.
Is Jaden also not a foodie?
Maybe the two of you can go on the foodie journey together.
Yeah.
Yeah, Jaden's not really, he's not really a foodie.
And I'd have to say my bonus son Trey is probably in between.
So you got the full, you got the full range.
I got, we got the full range.
We got the full range.
We always start with still or sparkling water.
Yeah.
I like still with a twist of lemon.
Nice.
But when I'm being really fancy, I go for the sparkling.
Yeah, it's a big night.
Yeah, when it's a big night and I'm feeling really good,
I go for that sparkling.
Yeah.
Well, this could be a big fancy,
if your dream male is on a big fancy night,
then we can get out the sparkling for you.
Would you still have the twisted lemon in there?
Yeah, I would.
I would have the twisted lemon.
That's non-negotiable.
That's non-negotiable.
And just one cube of ice.
That's one thing I do not like.
Don't fill up my glass with a whole lot of ice.
I'm with you.
I don't wanna come across as anti-American.
There we go.
This is the early doors for this, Ed.
You guys are crazy with ice. Yeah, this head. You guys are crazy with ice.
Yeah, it's yeah.
You guys go mad with ice.
Yeah, we go mad with it.
I'm just like, no ice.
I literally have to say, please, no ice.
Yeah.
But it is like, Phil, sorry,
I just got to get this off my chest.
Yeah, yeah.
You go to America, it's up to the brim with ice.
It is.
And they're pouring in water
from a jug that's got ice in it as well often. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's madness. It's very interesting. And I really don't know what that's
about. That being stingy, aren't they? Yeah. That being saying, they're trying to trick you.
They're trying to trick you because then they're like, oh, America's great because you get free
refills. You're like, no, you get one drink across the whole day. I didn't even think about it.
Here, you ask for a drink, you get the full drink straight away. I didn't even think about it right now. You ask for a drink, you get the full drink straight away. I didn't even think about that.
Yeah, because the ice fills up most of the glass.
Yeah.
It's a capitalist trick as well.
It is a capitalist trick, actually.
Maybe you can go back and you can start like being like,
I've been over there.
Thank you, drink to that ice.
Yeah, let's do it, guys.
Whole new journey as far as no ice.
Hashtag no ice.
Yeah.
Yeah, nice.
We'll get that going.
Do you want a refillable throughout the meal? Do you want us to come along and top it up for you?
No. I'd like to just add like if I ask you for it. Yeah. Oh yeah. You don't mind over service.
I don't. Yeah. That's fair enough. Yeah. And I don't like I'm always asking for half orders of
everything because that's the other thing is we in America, there's just tons of food on the plate.
I'm like, I can't eat all of this.
I don't want to waste the food.
So I tell them, listen, give me,
treat me like I'm a 12 year old.
Give me the kids portion.
You know, I can't.
This shows how different we are,
because when you said you asked for half portions,
I was like, that's clever.
Then you can get more things off the menu. That's what I do. Half portions of loads of
different things, so I can taste as many different things as possible, but you are just talking
about the portion size. It's been too big. Yes, I am. Would you also like then to bring over a
coloring book? I do like coloring books. And I'm gonna tell you what I like even more. I like it
when it's just the paper on the paper tablecloth
with the crayons.
And then I can just draw what I want.
You can just go for it.
I can go for it.
What sort of things would you be drawing on the paper tablecloth?
Little hearts, infinity signs, eyes.
You remember it like back in the day, like in the 80s.
I don't know how old you guys are.
You guys look like babies.
I'm 38, Ed is 37. Babies. like in the 80s. I don't know how old you guys are. You guys look like babies. Back in the 80s.
I'm 37, yes.
Babies.
So I won't say that,
because I used to hate that when I was in my 30s
and people called me a baby.
He lived a lot of life.
You guys are grown ass men.
Yeah, that's true.
I recognize that.
Thank you, Jada.
Yes.
I'm gonna take back the baby line
because that's not cool.
Anyway, so like, you know, I would draw eyes
with like these different designs on them.
Like, you know, during the 80s, like when Prince would put,
like, they wear these like really, this eye shadow,
just really eccentric eye shadow.
I still like making eyes like that.
I do stuff like that.
That's as artistic as it gets.
I think you've chosen like, those are definitely the three main things that would
come up that people would doodle. The heart, the infinity sign and that kind of eye with the
eye shadow. Yes. That's like a perfect observation of what that's going to do.
Would you not I'd practice my autograph. I would do that as well.
Oh yeah, no.
When I was a kid, that's what I did.
When I was a kid, that's what I did too.
I practiced autograph.
You don't need to practice anymore.
No.
People are like, oh, she's really arrogant.
She just put her autograph all over.
I practice, I'd set autographs so that I can,
I plan to one day steal this identity.
Right.
Yeah, I know him well enough now.
That's what this whole podcast is about.
Yeah.
Pop lobs or bread?
Pop lobs or bread, Jamie Pickett Smith.
Pop lobs or bread?
Pop lobs?
This happens every time we speak to an American.
Okay.
Firstly, James is very difficult to understand.
Secondly, the question is poppa doms or bread?
Poppa dom.
Okay, now what is that?
This is the question.
So if you have an Indian meal before you've ordered really,
they'll bring out like these big sort of crispy crisps.
They're sort of big crispy things like flat bread.
Yeah, you break them up.
Yeah, you break them up.
There's like dips and stuff like that.
Bread.
Yeah.
Fair enough.
But I'm glad you got the full,
you've fully appreciated what the question was.
Yeah. But it was always bread. Yeah, but it was always Brad
Yeah, but what we went to LA in New York for a couple of weeks to do these episodes
And that was every single episode when I would shout that people would look at it and go what was that?
And it's been all I've missed it. I've missed it. I've missed being able to do that for the listener
We're interviewing two people today who are from America. I look forward to that happening again later on
It will. It will.
It's only a particular type of bread that you like pre-meal that comes out.
There's like this sweet, buttery pretzel bread.
It's called a pretzel bread.
But we also have my favorite bread of all, but you never really get this at restaurants
unless you go down south and you go to like soul food restaurants.
Monkey bread.
Oh.
Have we had, I don't think we've had monkey bread.
It's like really tender and buttery
and you pull it apart.
It's really soft and sweet.
It is yummy.
That sounds so good.
Yeah, and it's hot.
Yeah.
Is it really hot?
Is it like stretchy? It stretches, yeah, it stretches. Yeah, well it's hot. Yeah. Is it really hot? Is it like stretchy?
It stretches, yeah, it stretches.
Yeah, well, I mean, it's got, I mean, your face is lit up.
Yeah.
So it has to be the monkey breath.
Yeah, it's the best, it's all good.
Do you put butter on it as well,
or is it buttery enough that you can just eat it?
It's buttery enough that you can just eat it, but,
if there is melted honey butter,
that you can then dip it in.
Yeah, great.
Yeah.
That's it right there.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, we'll definitely do it with the honey butter.
And would you maybe keep it for the rest of the meal
and like dip it in other stuff
and combine it with things?
Absolutely.
I'm one of those that likes to combine everything
on the plate.
Some people eat, they're like, no, no, no.
I have to have this separate from that.
Do not have my foods touch.
And I'm like, I'm one that likes to mash it up,
especially Thanksgiving.
I love it.
Yeah, that's the yams with the cranberry with the turkey.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, it's like you're cooking a new dish, isn't it?
Right. Every time.
I like that, like the mixture of those tastes in my mouth.
I've only done Canadian Thanksgiving once.
That's the experience I've had of Thanksgiving.
I've never done that.
Got it. Yeah, that's right.
It's not something that would be big over here.
I did go to Thanksgiving at an American family's house once,
but we were filming a TV show
where I had to stay in character for the whole thing and pretend to be a member of the Royal
Family. So it was actually a hugely stressful experience for me.
Right, that's hilarious.
Most of Ed's experiences in America are in character as this Royal Family character.
Yeah, I love it.
So it's a nightmare for him really.
Yeah, very stressful.
All of his anecdotes, because he's a nightmare for him, really. Yeah, all of his anecdotes.
Yeah.
Because he's playing this very awful human being.
He was lovely.
Yes, but he was unintentionally, you know, rude.
Yes.
Oh, got it.
I would say the character.
The character.
The character.
Not me.
Yeah, because you're not.
I'm not a rude guy.
Yeah, but the character was. Yeah, the character, you know, and some people suggested I was living out
some of my sort of social fantasies
by being rude to people through the character.
What I was gonna say, little shadow play,
little shadow dance, that's what I call that.
Can very much be that, alter ego, get down.
Nothing wrong with that.
Yeah.
Your dream starter.
Green salad with a mango vinaigrette.
Oh, a fresh start to the meal. Yes. Your dream starter. Green salad with a mango vinaigrette.
Oh, a fresh start to the meal.
Yes.
I like to get the greens going, get the intestines, you know, moving smoothly.
Start with that.
Very few of our guests here in the dream restaurant talk about getting their intestines moving
smoothly.
Well, you know, yeah, because you want to just make sure your digestive situation is
healthy and on the go.
Yeah.
So you want that peace of mind going into the vest of the meal, knowing that the intestines
are going to be okay.
Because, hey, listen, you got to keep everything moving really nicely through, you know, throughout.
I completely agree.
You do have to keep everything moving nicely throughout
and keep the intestines smooth.
Also, I like the idea that you're having this,
but after you've had monkey bread
with melted honey butter.
I know, right?
Which doesn't get the intestines moving smoothly.
That's what I'm saying.
So you gotta get something in there
that's gonna keep everything going right.
Bit of roughage.
A bit of roughage.
Keeping them on their toes.
Exactly.
And I'd have to eat fruit every morning
before pancakes and waffles
because my grandmother was like,
so I was kind of brought salad before,
and I should have had it before the monkey breath,
but I didn't.
That's fine.
Salad and then fruit before breakfast.
Ah, so what was the standard breakfast fruit
before you went and had your waffles?
Grapefruit.
Oh, nice.
That's very, as a kid?
As a kid, I had that.
That's a brave kid.
A half of a grapefruit.
Impressive.
Right?
Yeah, yeah.
And you just made me realize that.
When did you just say that?
As a kid, I'm like, damn.
Yeah, as a kid.
That feels like a very, like'm like, damn, yeah, as a kid.
That feels like a very, like a grandmother thing
to make someone do because that,
I think my, both my grandmothers were like,
yes, I have grapefruit in the morning.
It must have happened maybe in like the fifties.
There was like a big advertising campaign
for eat grapefruit in the morning.
But I could have brown sugar on top of it.
Yeah, but not a lot.
Let me eat pink grapefruit. I mean, yeah, you gotta have sugar on it of it. Yeah. Yeah. But not a lot. Yeah. But she did. Let me eat pink grapefruit.
I mean, yeah, you gotta have sugar on it as well.
I couldn't even, I don't know if I could do that now.
Yeah.
But then I have a very sweet tooth.
Got it.
So I'd end up pouring the brown sugar directly into my mouth
and then I'd get the grapefruit.
Yeah, exactly.
Apparently, if you put it in the freezer, it's good as well.
If you put half a grapefruit in the freezer,
it's like having a sorbet.
That's what I heard.
Maybe no one's ever done it.
I've never done it, but I did hear it.
I'm gonna do it.
Yeah, you're gonna do it.
Tell us about it.
Yeah, I will tell you about it.
Do you have a favorite salad spot to go to
for this kind of dish?
For your green salad with the mango vinaigrette,
is there a place we like?
That place is the best salad.
That's where I want it for my dream meal
There is a place in LA called cafe gratitude. We've been there guess who we saw there
We always do this whenever anyone brings up cafe gratitude
We always ask them to guess which celeb we saw there
It's like the most cafe gratitude celeb you could probably the most vegan thing you could The most vegan thing that could have ever happened to us
The most vegan thing, oh man, it's all kinds of layers of vegan
So layers of vegan culture when you're talking about Los Angeles
Yeah
Okay, so let me think cause hold up, alright, okay, give me a hint
Yes, it's a
Cause I need to know what lane, culture, vegan lane we're in
Yeah, I mean it's basically if some satirical comedy show was to make like you know some sort of vegan heaven and here's the vegan God
They choose this celebrity um we could say it was a musician. Yeah, I think we can say that vegan musician
This vegan musician made me smoke weed. Oh, I don't know
I mean in in LA,
we could chuck around those sorts of things,
but here that is a, that's an illegal accusation.
Yeah.
Oh, that's right.
That's right.
The cops gonna be on their way here right now.
Ex-nay, cancel, cancel.
I'm not sure actually.
Not sure.
I would say one of the OG vegan musicians,
should we reveal?
Oh, yeah, please reveal.
We saw Moby in Cavagagig.
Oh, Moby!
We love Moby.
Do you know Moby?
I don't know Moby, but I know of Moby,
and every time I've seen Moby, Moby's dope.
He's got animal rights tattooed on his arms.
Absolutely.
That guy's vegan.
Yeah, he's vegan all the way.
Yeah, it's very funny.
That's what you call true vegan. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a true way. Yeah, very funny. That's what you call true vegan.
Yeah.
That's a true vegan.
Yeah, it's just a true 100%.
We found it very funny to see him.
When I ordered my food, I said, I am amused.
I am finding it funny that maybe is there.
That's how I ordered my food.
When you go to Café Gratitude,
do you order in the way they want you to?
You have to say, I am the name of the dish.
No. No, you're like, I am the name of the dish. No.
No, you're like, I am humbles.
I am worthy.
Yeah, exactly.
No, I just go, oh man, can I have the gratitude bowl?
No, not that one.
And then they go, oh, the I am...
Yeah.
I am pretty solid with my...
I think then they give you the word of the day
or what have you.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah.
I'd say, yeah, if you're going there regularly,
you probably lose patience with that.
Yeah.
Yeah, maybe.
I bet there is a dish on there called worthy.
I'm trying to remember I am worthy.
I think there is something on there about worthy.
I have to ask, I think there is.
Imagine if we Google it now and it turns out it's the green
salad. Imagine that. It would be crazy.
That would be like a David Blaine trick.
That would be crazy.
He's the trick for you, David Blaine?
Yes, David has.
Very jealous of that.
He's done several.
That's the only reason I want to be in this biz.
He's done several.
So that one day David Blaine will do a trick for me.
Oh, he did something so crazy with Will and I really oh
He touched will shoulder and I felt it but will did it you cried. I cried you saw it. I saw that you cried
Yeah, it was emotional cuz I was like no way. How did you do that?
So he touched will shoulder, but I felt it
I'm well your eyes close and I had my eyes closed and he said something like, you know, do you feel that?
And I'm like, yes.
He's like, I'm not touching your shoulder.
So he was like showing the connection between us.
And I haven't been able to get away from Will since because of that connection.
Like I blame it on David.
We are really connected.
Through David Blaine.
Through David Blaine.
But yeah, it was a crazy experience.
He's on a whole nother level.
I can't believe you saw him do the spike
through the hand stuff.
I was obsessed with that for a brief period of time.
Yeah, he was showing everyone that way,
genuinely just puts a spike through his hand.
Yeah. I don't think he genuinely puts a spike. Yeah, the things puts a spike through his hand. Yeah.
I don't think he genuinely puts a spike.
Yeah, the things that you slam receipts on.
Yeah.
He just put one, it's a nice pick, wasn't it?
He put a nice pick through his hand.
Jada saw it and Jada touched it.
Yeah, I don't even know.
I don't.
Well, look.
I don't even mess with David,
because I'm just like, you're otherworldly, man.
I don't even know if you can call this magic.
Well, when he came to London and he suspended himself in a C3 box, um,
above Trafalgar Square or above the Thames, wasn't it?
And, uh, everyone just came and shouted at him and stuff.
Yeah.
They weren't as impressed as ages.
I like days and days and days and people just through them at Donald's at it in the box
Yeah
We didn't represent ourselves very well
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Your dream main course, Jada.
Ah, just had this.
Oh, man.
So I was in Memphis, and there's this restaurant called Houston's,
and I got a veggie burger that tastes like a straight-up grilled beef burger.
You want to talk about magic?
Yeah.
How is that even possible? It's a blame burger. Yeah, it's a blame burger. You wanna talk about magic? Yeah. How is that even possible?
With little- It's a plain burger.
Yeah, it's a plain burger.
I'm telling you, I was like, no way.
I was like, no way!
This is like amazing!
Wow.
You know, cause I really wanted that burger taste.
I was like, oh, and I couldn't have,
like I used to get the Houston's, you know,
Mesquite barbecue burger.
I don't eat meat, right?
So I was like, bonk it.
Let's see what they do with a veggie burger.
Man, they hooked it up.
It was crazy.
Did you think you'd never be able to taste that again?
Yes, it's not a veggie burger.
I don't even, like impossible burgers
don't even get down like that.
Not with that like juicy flavor.
I'm talking about like that really juicy just her.
And the char grilled flavors.
Yes.
Yeah.
I don't know how they did it.
I'm excited now.
I'm mad you don't have a Houston's here.
Yeah.
Yes.
I'm mad as well, yeah.
When you go back to the States, get one.
Straight to Memphis.
Straight to Memphis, Tennessee.
Oh, you get go to, they have one, they have them in Los Angeles, we have great. When you go back to the States, get one. Straight to Memphis. Straight to Memphis, Tennessee.
Oh, you get go to, they have one,
they have them in Los Angeles, we have two.
Lovely. Yeah.
If you come to LA, just get it.
Maybe Blaine did invent it.
He might have.
Maybe you got the idea when we were throwing the burgers
at him.
Over the tent.
He was like, this gives me an idea.
How long has it been since you've had meat?
So, okay, so let me backtrack on that.
Backtrack on that.
So I don't eat beef.
Not, yeah.
Okay, I don't eat beef.
I will eat fish and I will have buffalo once in a while.
Yeah, because I can't not, people are always like,
no, there's ways that you can have protein without meat.
It's like, yes, my particular body type,
I have to have meat once in a while.
And so I'll eat buffalo.
Yeah, I'll eat buffalo once in a while.
Some people have that rule of like,
they'll eat it if they could kill it themselves,
I guess for you.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Can I only confidently kill a buffalo?
Let me tell you, I will starve to death if I had to kill a buffalo.
Just cause I'm done.
I will starve to death.
Yeah. Yeah.
Why buffalo in particular?
It's lean. Yeah.
Yeah, it's lean and it it it it moves through my body nicely.
Whereas smooth. Yeah, it's smooth.
The intestines love it.
Even with five degrees.
Yeah.
But yeah, and beef just tears me up. Yeah. Tears me up. I think it probably does with most people, right? But
yeah, I'm still holding on to the beef dream. Yeah, my life is carnage, Jada.
I understand. I understand. Listen, I got no judgment on none of that.
I'm not, you know, I get it.
I've got to get on top of it really.
So it's not acceptable.
Just listen to you talk about like, you know,
things moving for your body,
but I was like, yeah, that is important actually.
It is.
My mind's just like a fucking GTA in there.
No, I get it.
But I'm going to tell you, you don't stay young forever.
Yeah, exactly.
And I'm gonna tell you, I'm 52, okay?
So it really starts to count when you get older.
You're like, damn.
Damn, if I had just paid attention a little bit more
when I was younger.
So that's all that I'll just tell you as an OG up in here.
Okay?
While you're on your food journey,
y'all love food, just pay attention to how it's rocking with your body. here. Okay. While y'all, you know, you're on your food journey. Y'all love food.
Just pay attention to how it's rocking with your body.
Yes.
Maybe I should get some buffalo in actually.
Have you ever had chicken fried chicken before?
That confused me when I went to America.
Chicken fried chicken.
So you know, you can get chicken fried steak.
Is that fried and chicken fat?
It's fried like fried chicken.
So it's steak.
It's steak fried like chicken.
Yeah, steak fried like chicken.
And we will do turkey like that as well.
So fried turkey.
Okay.
I once saw on a menu,
because I think with chicken fried chicken,
they like mince the chicken.
Chicken fried chicken.
And then like they do with this
and turn it into a steak shape.
So it's like a steak.
Oh, and they open it like.
Chicken fried steak.
Yeah. But they're using chicken. So it becomes chicken fried chicken. Oh, and they open it like chicken fried steak. Yeah. But they're using chicken.
So it becomes chicken fried chicken.
Okay.
All right.
Okay.
Do you think, are you looking at me like,
you think I'm lying?
I've just accepted all this buffalo nonsense of you.
Before Jada came in,
Yes.
I sat you down and said, no lying to Jada.
No lying to Jada.
Sorry.
I was very clear about that.
Sorry.
But it's a good chicken fried chicken.
No lying to Jada.
I'm sorry. And now you're lying already about the chicken fried chicken stuff. Sorry's chicken fried chicken. No lying to Jada. I'm sorry.
Now you're lying already about the chicken fried chicken stuff.
Sorry, chicken fried chicken.
Chicken fried chicken.
Now I've never heard of chicken fried chicken,
but what I do know, I will give you that sometimes the chicken will look like
like a steak sort of thing.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Where it's opened up.
I promise I haven't lied.
Yeah, I believe you. Bonito. Wow, chicken, yeah. Stink sort of thing, yeah. Yeah. Where it's opened up like a- I promise I haven't lied.
Yeah, I believe you.
I believe you.
Bonito?
No, thank you.
Wow, chicken fried chicken.
Chicken fried chicken.
This week I had Kentucky Fried Mussels.
Not sure about that.
Kentucky Fried Mussels.
From a place called Ox Club in Leeds in the UK.
Okay.
They were so good.
Really?
Really crispy mussels, but still flavorful. Like, like you know still that seafood flavor that you get for muscles
But like but it was really fried crispy. It's nice a nice crispy. I know in this garlic butter as well
That sounds good. Yeah, I like anything with garlic. Yeah, and it's not supposed to be good for you
Like but I will like I love savory flavors. Mm-hmm. Yeah.
Garlic's the best.
It's the best. I will put garlic on anything.
Yeah, most foods can be improved by garlic.
Me too. Yeah, I believe that.
Yeah, I mean, I do like garlic bread, so if you, I mean,
I was just thinking, what a garlic cake.
Someone's done it.
I bet somebody has. Someone's done it and like, look, I wouldn't be closed off. Someone's done it. I bet somebody has.
Someone's done it and like,
look, I wouldn't be closed off.
I'd try it.
I'd try it too.
That's why I was like,
some candied garlic.
Yeah.
Candied garlic.
Maybe.
That black garlic you get was almost sort of like,
tastes like sort of molasses sweetness.
It's sort of, yeah.
It's fantastic.
That might work in a cake.
That might work.
Yeah.
I know there's some chefs listen to this.
So. Yeah. Why don't you go out there and make us a garlic cake a cake. That might work. Yeah, I know there's some chefs listen to this, so. Yeah.
Why don't you go out there and make us a garlic cake?
Yeah, I can bake.
Maybe I'll try.
I can't bake that well.
Yeah, I think if you made a garlic cake,
your grandmother would be proud of you.
I think she would be.
I think she would be.
I thought it kind of pissed you off.
I think she would be.
She said, now you can make the cow tongue
with the cream sausage. Yeah sausage and put it all together.
Yeah, cow tongue cream cheese frosting.
Oh, good God.
Your dream side dish, Jada.
I love french fries.
Yeah.
I mean, you can't really go wrong.
You can't.
I don't care where I am in the world.
French fries, it's my favorite food.
And are they good everywhere in the world, do you think?
I would say they're not bad, but they may not be the best.
Do you remember, I hate to be negative,
do you remember where you were in the world
when you had the worst french fries you've ever had?
You know what I don't like?
When I asked for a French fry
and they bring out potato wedges.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Let me tell you, there's nothing
that pisses me off for.
I swear, when I'm like,
I like this French fry and they bring you out
a basket of potato wedges.
And that's happened to me like in middle America. Where it's like they bring you out these big, thick potato wedges. And that's happened to me like in middle America,
where it's like they bring you out
these big, thick potato wedges.
I'm like, that's not a damn french fry.
You said french fries.
Yeah, if I say that, that is some G.
That's heartbreaking.
They're trying to.
Because I don't mind a potato wedge, right?
I don't mind a potato wedge.
But you gotta prepare.
If you say it's a potato wedge.
You need to mentally prepare for the wedge.
But don't tell me it's a french fry and bring's a potato wedge. You need to mentally prepare for the wedge. But don't tell me it's a french fry
and bring out a potato wedge.
I agree.
Now I'm pissed.
Yeah, absolutely.
Oh, so it's real cheeky because they're showing you,
we had what we needed to make them.
Right, you got this big thick potato.
Yeah.
Could have just cut it down into a French fry.
Could have done it, didn't.
And now we're trying to tell you.
Yeah, that is a French fry.
I call that gaslighting.
Yeah, that is gaslighting.
That's 100% gaslighting.
That's what it is, look it up.
Also, I feel like we've only just embraced the term
French fry in this country.
Do you think?
I think for a long time, a lot of people-
Oh, because you call it chips.
Would only ever call them chips.
Yeah. And in recent years,
I think we have accepted that we have to differentiate because there are different types.
There's the thick cut chips, the chip shop chips and all that stuff and French fries are their
own thing. And we just have to swallow our pride and just go, you know what, we'll just say French
fry, even though a lot of people in this country don't like saying Americanisms, even though it
sounds like a French word. Yeah. Right.
Well, I'm going to tell you what,
I'm going to tell you a funny.
I remember coming here to London when I was really young,
I didn't know anything, and fish and chips,
and I thought I was going to get chips, real chips,
like chips, potato chips.
Crisps. Crisps. Yes.
And they brought out French fries.
And I was like, oh, I'm actually happy
that they're French fries.
Because I thought that was all you had available
were the chips.
I messed with a chip.
And then I was like, oh, but it's a French fry.
And I was like, oh, so French fries are called chips here.
I was like, oh, okay.
So that was one time that I thought
I was gonna get something that I didn't get.
And I was happy that it was a french fries.
Yeah, cause you're always happy if it's french fries, right?
I'm always happy.
Cause if you ordered wedges and they brought french fries.
I would still be happy.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it doesn't work the other way around.
It doesn't work the other way around.
The first time I ordered frickles,
I didn't know what they were.
Frickles.
I just went for it.
I saw frickles on the menu.
I was like, I have the frickles.
And then the person I was with said, what are they? I had no idea. Do you know what frickles are? I have no idea what a frickle on the menu. I was like, I had the frickles and then the person was like, so what are they?
No idea.
Do you know what frickles are?
I have no idea what a frickle is.
Fried pickles.
How is that?
Delicious, they had very nice seasoning on it.
That's the key.
Wow.
The seasoning has to be good.
Otherwise, you're just dealing with something
that's absolutely scorching hot when you bite into it.
Yeah, that's the issue with them sometimes.
If they're too thick cut, the pickles.
Got it. If they're like long, dill pickles that are thick cut, that's the issue with them sometimes. If they're too thick cut, the pickles, Got it.
If they're like long dill pickles that are thick cut,
there's so much moisture in them
that when they're in the batter,
all of that liquid gets up to like 100 degrees
and then you're biting in and it's hot stuff.
Might as well be biting into a glow stick, man.
Yeah.
But like, if you dice them up into coins,
Yeah.
Great.
Get loads of seasoning on them delicious
That sounds amazing. I've never even heard of a frickle, but I want to try one
What is our any frickles around here that are good? Not really and I would say the best frickles
I've had are in America. Yeah
Yeah
They're doing that. They're saying. Meat liquor do frickles. Oh, they're meat liquor do frickles. Meat liquor. So place called meat liquor.
Okay, spell Meat liquor, meat liquor do frickles. Oh, they're meat liquor do frickles. Meat liquor. So place called meat liquor. Okay.
Lickers belt, um, L-I-C-Q.
Q.
Q.
Not.
No, just L-I-Q.
Thank goodness.
What?
L-I-Q-U-O-R.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
Well, let's be glad it was not the other way.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Because that could mean something totally different.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
I don't want that.
That buffalo wouldn't know what hit it.
Tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk.
Also, you'd get, they bring you your food and you're like, well, I don't know what people have. Tch, tch, tch, tch, tch. Also, they bring you your food and you're like,
well, I don't know what people have been doing with it.
Exactly, exactly.
Do you want me to do this?
And then I'm worried you're going to pass it on
to the next person.
That part.
That part.
There's a lot of fast food chains in America.
LA's got some that are just like, just for LA even.
Can you even rank the French fries?
Can you do it league tables of like the best ones are here?
People go nuts for in and out in LA,
but I don't know if you subscribe to that.
You know, in and out.
Here's the thing about fast food.
Fast food has just gotten terrible.
It used to be so good.
Cause I'm gonna tell you what,
as an OG back in the day,
you couldn't mess with a McDonald's French fries.
Yeah, yeah.
You just couldn't.
Everybody else is trying to compete to what that was.
Yeah.
McDonald's doesn't even do their French fries the way they used to.
I mean, they came down to even like the engineering a specific kind of potato.
So I don't even mess with none of those fast food French fries.
No, but I tell you, he's got good French fries.
Houston's.
Houston's.
Another show over here.
Back in Houston.
Lovely.
Houston's got some good fries.
For your dream male then, would you like the Houston's fries
or would you like McDonald's fries back in the day?
Give me the OG McDonald's French fries any day.
I miss them.
Yeah.
We can bring them back.
I miss them.
Who's your favorite McDonald's mascot?
Ronald.
Ronald.
Ronald was the fave, even though I don't like clowns.
He was my favorite and he was my favorite
because every time I saw him, I was like,
French fries! That's the French fry guy! He was my favorite and he was my favorite because every time I saw him I was like, Fritz Frye!
That's the Fritz Frye guy!
Yeah, none of the other clowns have that to recommend.
Yeah, and you know, and then, you know,
we got, you know, all the little prizes
and the little kids' meals we would get.
Like, he was gangster, I love Ronald.
He was pretty gangster.
Like, those toys were great.
They were great.
You know, do you really, really want the toys?
I mean, I didn't get to go to McDonald's very much.
My parents didn't like McDonald's, so they wouldn't take me there.
But I see the adverts with the happy meals and the toys.
The happy meals. See, I had a teenage mom, so she's like, you want McDonald's?
Cool. You want McDonald's, you know?
It was that or breakfast for dinner. Really? My most exciting thing as a kid going to McDonald's, cool. I love McDonald's, you know. It was that or breakfast for dinner.
Really?
My most exciting thing as a kid going to McDonald's
would be finding the longest chip in the world.
Did you ever do that?
Yes.
You'd get the fry out and you'd be like,
oh my God, it's the longest fry in the world.
Exactly.
Yep, I used to love that.
But then would it maintain its integrity, that fry?
Would it be as crispy as you wanted it to?
No, you had to eat it right away.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. You had to eat it right away. Yeah. Yeah.
They eat it right away. Straight in. Not even the,
it won't even survive the car drive home. Yeah.
Your dream drink. Lavender lemonade. That's a first. We've never,
we've never had lavender lemonade on the podcast before. Lavender Lemonade is so good.
Now back in the day when I was still whilin',
Lavender Lemonade was some vodka,
but these days we do it just straight.
Just Lavender Lemonade is so good.
But that's great,
because you clearly just love the Lavender Lemonade, right?
I do.
So you can take the vodka out,
you still got your dream drink.
I still got it.
Where are you getting Lavender Lemonade from? Oh, it's a dream drink. I still got it. Where are you getting lavender lemonade from?
Oh, it's a couple places.
I just had a lavender lemonade and I was just going crazy
because I used to, there was a restaurant that I used to go to
in New Orleans while Will was shooting there
and that's when I got really addicted to the lavender lemonade.
Yeah. And then I had to learn, I was like,
oh, I got to learn how to make this thing, which I never did.
And I just had it again.
I don't wanna say what's Houston's.
Yeah.
I bet the whole male Houston's are gonna be over the moon
when they hear this.
But I just had a laugh at their lemonade.
I was like, yo, run that lavendel lemonade,
I can't believe they have it.
And while I was on the book tour, so it was just recently.
Oh, nice. Yeah.
So I've never had a Lavender lemonade.
I don't think I've even seen a Lavender lemonade anywhere.
What ratios are we talking about Lavender to lemonade?
Is it mainly lavender or is it mainly the lemonade
taste of a little hint of lavender?
It's like, I would say that the ratio is probably 60-40.
40% Lavender, 60 lemonade.
It's got-
Because lavender can be a strong.
Lavender can be strong, you know what I mean?
So it's a nice little, like it's,
like a beautiful soft covering of the lemon.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's really gentle.
And then you gotta have the right amount of sugar too.
Because then, yeah, when it's done well, man,
I haven't had a bad one.
Never.
Yeah, never.
So I think people know you better get that one right
or no one will be ordering it.
Yeah, so.
But it's pretty yummy.
It sounds refreshing as well.
It's really refreshing.
I love it.
Would you like a New Orleans one for your dream male?
I would take the New Orleans one with the vodka just for,
if it's a dream.
Yeah. That it's a dream
Lavender lemonade with the vodka in a dream all day and just just line it up. Just give me ten of them
One ice cream coming or multiple ice cubes in one. Yeah
in each multiple ice cubes in this one. One. Yeah. In each, yeah. One single ice cube.
One single ice cube,
because it needs to have a little chill to it,
but don't, yeah, don't load me up.
You don't wanna kill the taste.
I don't wanna kill the taste.
I don't want it watered down with the ice.
And this is something that we don't have here,
but like I only know about through watching
American TV shows or films
is kids with their lemonade stands.
Yeah, that's a real thing. I've never lemonade stands. Yeah, that's a real thing.
I've never seen it.
Yeah, it's a real thing.
I see it all the time.
You think anyone would attempt?
Love it to lemonade?
Ideally not with vodka.
No, I don't.
I don't.
I mean, listen, at the lemonade stands,
we'd be lucky to just get a decent glass of lemonade.
Listen, lemonade itself.
Really think about this.
Lemonade itself is really an art form.
Good lemonade with that nice balance of lemon,
water, and sugar.
Because it's easy to mess up.
Like most of the time, lemonade is too tarty.
Like when I order lemonade, I'm scared to order lemonade
in restaurants because I'm like, this is going to be crap.
It's either going to be watered down, you know,
or it's going to be two tardies
and I can have enough sugar.
Yeah.
I mean, I think I only heard about lemonade
in the American sense, like a lot later in life.
Cause here growing up lemonade would mean like
Sprite or seven up, right?
Sure.
If you ask for lemonade in a restaurant,
you're getting fizzy.
You're getting fizzy.
Yeah. Got it.
But that proper homemade lemonade, which is so good.
Is it Sprite or 7-Up for you guys? I'd go 7-Up.
I think I'd go Sprite. This is why we work well as hosts.
Yeah. I think I'm 7-Up too. I think 7-Up is a tad sweeter, I think. Yeah, I think.
With a bit of Vodkeren. I would bet there's less bubbles.
In a dream for sure. Listen, I'll. With a bit of Vokkaran. I would bet there's less bubbles. And a dream for sure.
Listen, I'll take Vaka in any damn thing.
Yeah, yeah.
It's my favorite.
I love Vaka.
If I may just roll back to the lemonade stands.
If you're walking down the street,
how good would a kid's lemonade stand
have to be for you to accept that they might
better do lavender lemonade?
Just say there's a little kid and they've got a load of lavender and they've got all the other stuff for lemonade.
And they're like, Jessica Smith, would you like a lavender?
How good does the setup have to be? What are you looking for?
And they call you by your full name.
They call you by your full name.
Let me tell you something. I told you about your full name. Let me tell you what.
If I go to a lemonade stand, and they're like,
Jada Pinkett Smith. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha They even know anything about a lavender lemonade. They won.
I'm like, run it.
I don't even care what it tastes like.
Run that lavender lemonade.
The fact that you even know that a lavender lemonade exists and you know my full name.
You win.
We arrived at your dream dessert.
My favorite course.
I know you said you're mainly a savory person. This is a good one
But yeah, I'm excited about this. What what we got?
Taiwanese pineapple cake ice cream
vegan, but it tastes just like
regular
Ice cream this sounds great. Yeah, let me tell you
I'm gonna tell you like this when you when get to LA, when you guys come back to California,
go to Los Angeles, you gotta go to Dear Bella.
Best, let me just calm down.
The best ice cream, it's vegan, but it tastes just like,
you would never know.
Amazing.
That it's vegan, and they have the best flavors.
Taiwanese pineapple cake ice cream.
Any ice cream flavor that has the word cake in it?
Yeah, I agree.
I'm on board.
I don't even know what kind of pineapple cake it is,
but I would love that in an ice cream.
I don't think you've had a time when he's pineapple cake,
but...
It's just tastes like a pineapple cake.
Yeah, yeah.
Pineapples and cakes.
Pineapple and cake, I mean, come on,
we all know that's like, that's real deal, right?
Sounds so good.
And ice cream.
Yeah.
It's so creamy.
And they have so many flavors.
Like, I have ice cream parties.
Yeah, deep-eleven ice cream parties.
Me and Will just have ice cream parties at the house.
Oh, yeah?
Oh, yeah.
Cookies and cream, they have one of them
that I just discovered, Vietnamese coffee.
Oh, yeah.
The gingerbread ice cream.
It's like a gingerbread cookie ice cream.
It's like, you know, during the holiday season, which is my...
I keep it all year round.
Amazing. I'm like, hey, can y'all make me some of that gingerbread?
I'm like, I know it's summertime.
I know y'all usually don't make it until, you know, Thanksgiving.
Can you run that for me?
I love an ice cream party.
Man, this is exactly what I don't know how many episodes.
We've done over 200 episodes of this goddamn podcast.
And I've been waiting for someone to mention,
even the idea of an ice cream party.
Ice cream party.
And finally, I'm here.
Are you inviting lots of people over for the ice cream party?
I've just had an ice cream party to pick names for Christmas.
We pick n-, cause it's like, there's a lot of adults.
We get all the kids gifts, like kids get gifts,
but adults, my mom was this year was like,
I'm not buying nobody nothing unless we pick names.
She's like, I'm not, I just don't feel like it.
That Christmas is not for us in that way.
I'm like, you don't want to get gifts?
Like I love getting gifts.
She's like, look, we're adults, pick a name.
So I was like, instead of having, you know, dinner,
or I was like, okay, everybody come over,
we'll have an ice cream party.
And I just had like 12 different like versions
of different flavors.
Is it too late to get in on your family Christmas?
So I can go to that ice cream party
and put my name in there?
No, you guys, listen, you're invited.
Man, thank you. Come on through.
Love the thought of this ice cream party, man.
You have no idea, Jada, the amount of episodes
I've had to sit through with guests
who have had unimaginative desserts
or they've had savory things.
Some of them have chosen cheeseboards for dessert
and I've had to sit here and take it.
And I finally get into a place
where there's like 12 different flavors of ice cream.
And they all sound amazing.
There's like that coffee one sounds insane.
The gingerbread one,
I'm a huge gingerbread ice cream fan.
This time when he's pineapple cake one,
are there chunks of cake in the?
Yes.
Yeah.
And I'm gonna tell you something else.
This is the kicker, okay?
It's handmade.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's handmade.
Yeah, they know what that, that's made with love.
Yeah.
It's handmade, like, it's not factory made.
They care.
Dear Bella, they care.
Yeah.
And it's only one.
There's only one dear Bella in the world.
Wow, great. And they love ice cream. There's only one Dear Bella in the world. Wow.
And they love ice cream.
Whereabouts in LA is it?
I believe it's like close to downtown.
Okay, well, because next time I'm gonna-
I think it's like on Vine.
I'm gonna put my Airbnb based on where Dear Bella is.
Yeah, but I mean, you Google Dear Bella
is right there, isn't it?
I'm gonna stay in Dear Bella.
Yeah.
Where's the other one?
There are two now.
Ha ha ha ha. But it has just revealed there's Diabella. Yeah. Where's the other one? There are two now.
But it has just revealed there's two.
There's two?
Where's the other one?
Hollywood and Costa Mesa, they're both in LA.
They have two locations, guys.
She cannot have double-ice cream pie.
Yes.
That means I'm going to be checking out that location
to see if they have different flavors.
Oh, if they have different flavors.
Different flavors.
Wow. I love this.
This is very exciting. I'm online as soon as I get in that car.
Imagine you get in the car, you look at this new, when you see if there's new flavors,
imagine this. They got lavender lemonade flavor ice cream.
Don't. Don't. Okay. You just, you know what?
That might be too, that might be too much. No. No, no, no.
Now you're going gonna have me going there
and I'm gonna be like,
is there any way possible you guys could make
a lavender lemonade ice cream?
Yeah, and listen, I warn you now,
that originally they'll try and fob you off
and make you turn it into a sorbet.
Yeah, they will.
That's what I was just thinking.
They're probably gonna have to,
because I don't know how you can do it any other way.
I don't know.
Because I don't know if they'll-
If anyone can, the Dave Aller guys can.
They can, I'm gonna try, I'm gonna ask him.
But I wouldn't mind trying it in a sorbet.
Now listen, I'm with you on the sorbet.
Like sorbet is always like,
all right, you don't have the ice cream I loved
and rock the sorbet, because I really love ice cream.
But I wouldn't mind the lavender, lemonade and a sorbet.
Yeah, I've had some very good sorbets.
I've had some great sorbets.
I have, but it's not like my like...
Yeah, yeah.
The citrusy ones are the way to go with them.
Yeah.
Lime ones, grapefruit maybe, remind you of...
I've had grapefruit sorbet.
It never turned out well, but I've had it.
Yeah.
Well, it's flashbacks.
It might be a nice addition to the ice cream party,
just to have a little sorbet in there.
Well, they do sorbet.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They don't do a lot of sorbet.
Dear Bella doesn't do a lot of sorbet, but they do.
Like I had a Guava sorbet.
It was OK.
Yeah.
Clean the palate between ice cream.
Yep.
True.
So you just have a little sorbet in between each one.
Little palate cleanser.
And then have another one.
Little palate cleanser. Oh, man cleanser. And then have another one.
A little palate cleanser.
Oh man, I've never wanted to go somewhere immediately so badly.
Yeah, you're so far away.
I swear, dear Bella will not disappoint.
Right, I'm going to read your menu back to you now, see how you feel about it.
Okay.
You want still water with a twist of lemon and one ice cube in it, but if we're going fancy,
it's a sparkling water.
Popped on some bread, monkey bread with melted honey butter.
Start a green salad with a mango vinaigrette from Cafe Graduate. Main course, veggie burger
from Houston's in Memphis. Side, OG McDonald's French fries. Drink, 10 lavender lemonades
with vodka. Line them up from New Orleans. Dessert, Taiwanese pineapple cake. Vegan ice
cream from Dia Bella.
Yeah.
That sounds great, Gade. That's a great menu. That's a great menu. Yeah, it's a very, very. Yeah. That sounds great, Jade.
That's a great menu.
That's a great menu.
Yeah, it's a very, very good menu.
That's a good time.
And you've thought about the balance of it as well,
because you're getting everything moving at the top.
That's right.
And then it builds to that ice cream, I think.
Yeah.
And then to me, like, smashed under the table
after the table.
Because, yeah.
Also, like, I'm definitely, as the genie waiter,
I'm just going to turn that last course
into an ice cream party.
There you go.
I'm having all of those flavors.
Yes.
I'm having everyone around.
We can pick names, whatever.
I don't care what the event is, what the occasion is.
Listen, the next time I come back,
that's what we're going to talk about.
The episode is going to be called Ice Cream Party.
And we're going to go through. Cream Party and we're gonna go through,
we are gonna go through all the different flavors
and I'm gonna get it shipped out here.
We're gonna sit here and we're gonna do an ice cream.
I'm not sure how the recording will come out.
Having eaten ice cream with James before,
it's not, like sort of the audio would be pleasant.
No matter, I don't care.
I do not care how the audio comes out. That's Matter of fact, I don't care. I do not care how the audio comes out.
That's the last part, I don't care.
Let me tell you, and it's gotta be vegan
because if it's not vegan, I'll shoot off like a rocket.
It'll be vegan.
Okay.
It's as good as you say.
It's gotta be vegan.
Things can move too smooth down there.
Yeah, I'll see it.
Do this roof, yeah. That's move too smooth. Yeah. Do this roof. Yeah.
That's most propellers. Yeah. I mean, that'd be quite the end of the podcast. Jada, thank
you so much for coming to the Dream Restaurant. Thank you. This is a good time.
Well there we are. That was a great chat, James. Yes. I'm still riding high on the ice
cream party, man. She was a proper laugh, James. Yes. I'm still riding high on the ice cream party, man.
She was a proper laugh, James.
She was a laugh, excellent food choices,
didn't say, kind of when I was happy hippo.
Yeah.
So got to stay in the restaurant, which is good,
because that meant we got to enjoy that ice cream party.
I can't wait to go there.
I'm gonna have my own ice cream party.
I mean, what I'd say as well is,
when someone picks a veggie burger on paper, I'm like,
no, that's a boring choice.
Sure.
But Jada was so excited about it.
The description of it.
The way she described the veggie burger.
I've got to go to Houston's.
Yeah.
The burger sounds amazing.
The house you party sounds amazing.
And the book worthy sounds fantastic.
Absolutely.
Worthy by Jada Pinkett Smith is out now on Forth Estate.
That's the publisher.
So go get it, baby. It's available in hardback and audiobook.
Fantastic. Ed and I have both written books as well that you can get.
Yes, we have actually. I've written a book called Glutton, The Multicourse Life of a
Very Greedy Boys, available now. James A. Casar's Guide to Quit in Social Media is available now.
Both of those bad boys on audiobook read by ourselves.
Yes.
As in, I read mine, James read his.
Although, we should have done the switcheroo.
We should have done the switcheroo.
I'm gutted now.
We didn't think of that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Bad luck, mate.
Oh, well.
But yeah, first of all, we'd worry about Jada Pinkett Smith.
Do it.
Thank you very much to you, James.
Thank you to you, Ed.
It's been a fantastic day.
It has been.
Thank you to you, Benito. Thank you, Benito. Double thumbs up from Benito. Thank you very much to you, James. Thank you to you, Ed. It's been a fantastic day. It has been. Thank you to you, Benito.
Thank you, Benito.
Double thumbs up from Benito.
Thank you very much.
We will see you again soon.
Bye-bye.
Bye-bye.
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