Off Menu with Ed Gamble and James Acaster - Ep 259: Will Ospreay

Episode Date: August 21, 2024

AEW wrestler Will Ospreay is this week’s dining guest, and he’s impressed by Ed (and James’s) wrestling experience. But can he help with James’s kitchen? AEW All In is at Wembley Stadium on Su...nday 25th August. Get tickets here. AEW Dynamite/Collision is at the Utilita Arena in Cardiff tonight, Wednesday 21st August. Find any last-minute tickets here. Follow Will on Instagram and Twitter @willospreayRecorded and edited by Ben Williams for Plosive.Artwork by Paul Gilbey (photography and design).Follow Off Menu on Twitter and Instagram: @offmenuofficial.And go to our website www.offmenupodcast.co.uk for a list of restaurants recommended on the show.Watch Ed and James's YouTube series 'Just Puddings'. Watch here. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:52 Slán. to monetize their podcasts everywhere. Acast.com. Welcome to the Off Menu Podcast, taking the extra hot chicken thighs of conversation, adding the spicy rice of humor, and why not throw in the Metro piece of the internet. It's the off menu podcast James. That is a gamble. My name is James Acaster and together we own a dream restaurant. Every single week we invite the guests. We ask them their favorite. Oh dear. Hang on. It's been a while since we've done one, hasn't it? So what's happened here? Make a main course, dessert, side dish and drink. Not in that order. And this week, our guest is Will Ospreay. I'm rusty, I'm rusty. You're rusty, man. You wouldn't see me messing up the format like that.
Starting point is 00:01:53 Will Ospreay, I mean, you know, he was pretty much my favourite wrestler. I think widely considered one of the best wrestlers in the world right now, James. Our first wrestler on the podcast. Very exciting. Very, very exciting. Big day. He is, of course, one of the top guys at AEW and AEW are coming to London soon. So we'll be chatting to Will a little bit about that. They're doing the Wembley Stadium. They're doing AEW All In on the
Starting point is 00:02:16 25th of August, 2024. I went to All In last year. It was an insanely brilliant night and I think I'm going back this year and I can't wait. You sent me a lot of videos. Yeah. You were in the audience, you were singing along to songs. Yeah. You were going, yeah, come on, come on. Yeah. I loved it, man. And I can't wait to say, come on again. I loved how much you said, come on. Yeah. Well, I'm just not very good at cheering along for sporty stuff. So all I've really got is come on. It was great.
Starting point is 00:02:48 I really, you know, I really liked it. I really liked it. I'd hope you shout, come on loads this year. Yeah, I will. I will shout, come on. And I'll be like, come on, Will, my buddy. It's me, Ed from the podcast. We're friends now.
Starting point is 00:02:59 We're friends now. We're buddies. Shall I get in there and help? Oh, that'd be good. I will get in there and help actually. I won't check. I'll just do it. You can can shout come on when you're in the ring. Yeah. Yeah. Something different. Cause then it is like, come on, let's have a fight. Come on. Let's have a fight. Then you're in trouble. I did a little special Nando's intro there, James. Yeah, it was good. I like that. Because Will has
Starting point is 00:03:16 a move called cheeky Nando's. That's great. He's got a move called cheeky Nando's. Yeah. This is like every time I learned something about wrestling, I'm like, I should just watch wrestling because clearly because clearly I'd love it. Every detail I hear about it is brilliant. He's got a move called cheeky Nando's. What is that? What is the move? I think from memory, it's, I think that it's when people are like sort of tangled up or hung upside down on the turnbuckle and then he kicks them in the head. Great. That is cheeky. Yeah. Very much looking forward to speaking to Will. But of course, if he says a secret ingredient on which we have pre-agreed, he will be removed, tossed over the top rope of the restaurant.
Starting point is 00:03:51 Yeah, oh, that's a wrestling term. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, and this week, the secret ingredient is chops. Chops. This is the most wrestling food crossover thing I could think. Yeah. A chop is a horrible move
Starting point is 00:04:04 where you basically slap someone's chest as hard as you can. You demonstrated it on Benito when you were pitching the secret ingredient to us. Yeah. You were like, no, it's a wrestling move because we obviously mean beneath everything about karate chops and stuff. And you were like, no, it's a wrestling. And you said to Benito, come here, I won't do it on you. I won't do it on you. And he was so scared. He was so scared. If I had done it on Benito, he'd be dust right now. He'd be dust. We would not have a producer for this podcast. We'd be running it ourselves because he'd be dust. Dust in the wind. Or his chest would be gone. That would be horrible if Benito had no chest. I imagine it. We don't know what we'd put there to keep him together. Just a floating head.
Starting point is 00:04:36 I guess whenever I've got a signed chopping board. Yeah. Signed by himself. Chopped. And chopped his food as well. So if Will says chops he's gone he is gone but hopefully that's not gonna happen because I don't want to attempt to kick out a wrestler yeah no it's not gonna happen man I reckon he can take you yeah that's true this is the off menu menu of Will Ospreay Welcome Will to the Dream Restaurant. Thank you. Welcome Will Ospreay to the Dream Restaurant. We've been expecting you for some time.
Starting point is 00:05:13 Thank you kindly sir. You're very loud. Yes. You're used to it right? Wrestlers are loud. Only a little bit. Who's the loudest wrestler you've ever seen on the mic? On the mic?
Starting point is 00:05:22 I don't know mate. Talking themselves up before a match. That's a very difficult one. They're all pretty loud, right? They're all pretty loud. I mean, everyone's got a bit of a loud obnoxious attitude. I'm very much a chilled, laid out person. So, those loud, man, I just woke up. And 9.47 in the morning, right? Here we go.
Starting point is 00:05:40 Let's go. I got you, man. Does that extend backstage as well? Wrestling is full of bright personalities and loud personalities. It's part of the job. You're always surrounded by these types of people. You're the first wrestler we've had on the podcast. It's very exciting. Thank you so much. This is a big day for us. Ed, obsessed with wrestling. Really? Recent, recent reconvert. Cause I was like, I mean, I think most people, like most people my age was a big sort of attitude era WWE guy. Yes son.
Starting point is 00:06:12 And then, and then sort of fell out of it a bit. And then my wife got back into it last year. And then I was like, well, I'll start, start watching with her. Your wife is the one that got you back into it. Yeah. That's crazy. 100%. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:24 It's the other way around. It's normally the lad goes, you've got to watch this and the wife likes it and then wife leaves. Yeah. No, she absolutely loves it. And then, yeah. And, and got into AW. So then I was, oh man, that makes me happy. I was in. Are you enjoying yourself? Yeah. Loving it. Excellent. Absolutely love it. Yeah. Just I, I think I enjoy all of it now as well. Like the, the actual quality of the wrestling and then also the like ridiculous storylines and all of that. I think I enjoy all of it now as well, like the actual quality of the wrestling and then also the ridiculous storylines and all of that. I think I can enjoy every element of it. It's great. I mean, that's the art of it now.
Starting point is 00:06:52 I mean, there's so many different ways to tell stories in pro wrestling. I feel like for years it was just told in one way. It was just done with like what I call the invisible camera where you just pretend the camera isn't there and you do this key stage three GCSE acting. So for me it's just kind of like, I spent eight years of my life over in Japan where it was treated as a sport. So from there it was finding ways to tell stories within the wrestling. And now for AEW to kind of do that, it's so refreshing to have a show where it is very much a sport based wrestling show. Japan's the like, is that like the proper, was Mick Foley there for a long time?
Starting point is 00:07:33 Mick Foley done like the death match wrestling over there. I mean I would do it, I'd happily go do it. I tried my best there when we was like back yarding around me mum's and me mum did like it when I had this roll of barbed wire coming down and she'd be like, I was freaking doing that. I just thought it'd be a laugh to bring it down. But no, my style was New Japan Pro Wrestling. I was there for eight years of my life. I was there when I was 22 years old. I'm 31 now, which is weird. I'm signing that maniza all the time. But it was so cool because it was kind of like a cult shot for me. Being someone that like, once again, bring up the GCSEs, failed GCSEs, it wasn't very good work coming at all. Like I was much preferred just backyard
Starting point is 00:08:13 wrestling with my friends. And then all of a sudden I was able to make a little bit of a break on the indie scene. And then thankfully there was some agents or like, there was office members over in, from New Japan over in this show. They brought me over and just have a look back. I applied myself there for eight years. It was a complete culture shock. Especially when you're wanting to go somewhere and just got all these weird symbols on
Starting point is 00:08:36 that you've never seen before. You're like, what is that? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's amazing, man. Well, when you say the indie scene, so I went to see a wrestling match in Barton Seagrave near Ketrin where I'm from. And it was a little community centre and stuff. One of the best nights of entertainment Ketrin's ever seen, I'd say. There was a wrestler called
Starting point is 00:09:00 the Spin Doctor who was a man in a white lab coat who just used to spin round and round until he hit something. Were you doing stuff that was a bit more serious than that? Yeah, I'm not going to lie to you. I mean the spinning round and round thing does have quite a few arsenal moves where I could do all these cool spins and all these cool flips but like I must say Spin Doctor isn't very much my cup of tea there. But do you remember what the show was called by any chance? I can't remember what it was called. I remember Spin Doctor because he spanned round and because he went out during Royal Rumble and then he had to sneak back in because he'd left his
Starting point is 00:09:34 lab coat on stage. So he had to sneak back in and retrieve his lab coat. Honestly, this is so British wrestling though. There's been so many times I've wrestled in a venue and I've got in the ring trying to pretend that I'm a big tough guy. There's a projection screen right here. We'll be hitting the ropes. We have to duck our opponent and the fucking producers. It is amazing though, but I think that's what sort of makes those indie shows really exciting as well. Something really silly might happen as well as watching some incredible wrestling. There are so many times I could tell you where like I feel like that is the backbone of what British wrestling, it makes you a little bit of a pro wrestler. So this is one of my examples, right? I used to wrestle in a
Starting point is 00:10:11 place called the Resistance Gallery, it was on Befinal Green where I used to train, right? The day before a show happens, a fire breaks out, someone just set fire to the bins outside, the flames worked its way inside the building. To extinguish all the flames, the show goes on. This place stunk of smoke and ash. We're probably breathing in and everyone's still drinking, having a good time. I was wearing a wrestling mask as well. And get this, so these shows, they're more of like a cabaret show. It's called Lucha Britannia. They're more of a cabaret show than a wrestling show. And they have wrestling match wrestling match act wrestling match wrestling match act and then final wrestling match right it was the main event and the second act that they brought in was a fire
Starting point is 00:10:53 brewing the building's already set ablaze do you want to do this again as the first wrestler on the podcast we don't really know like if there's a strict diet for wrestlers, if there's something that you have to like a bye bye or is it like whatever you like? I'll be honest with you. I'm sure that there is a strict diet. I'm sure that there is a way of doing this, but like it's not made its way to my lap. I've still got Uber Eats on my phone. I get myself a creams at night. But obviously like a main diet for every pro wrestler, especially in this country is definitely go get an Andos for yourself, mate. Same as comedians.
Starting point is 00:11:29 Yeah, exactly, bro. There are a lot of parallels though, I think, like with wrestling and comedy in terms of like whenever I see wrestlers, you can always tell they've done like years of doing the ropey shows and like traveling around the country and having to sort of exist by going on a circuit. And learning how to work off your audience as well. Like sometimes I'm sure with you guys it will be like someone's heckling you or someone's giving you a bad time or like you have to judge and you have to like pivot to like what this person's doing. I mean,
Starting point is 00:11:57 the audience sometimes like, yeah, I could think I'm going in there as the biggest good guy in the world, but then the moment I walk through the curtain, they might start booing me. And you have to learn how to adjust and adapt to those situations just as comedy is. Obviously I'm not a comedian myself, although my mum thinks I'm quite funny. But in the face anyway. But no one's going to be booing you at Wembley Stadium. I hope not. Absolutely not. There is no chance.
Starting point is 00:12:21 My dad might. Just to keep you balanced. August 25th, 2024. This is absolutely chance. My dad might. Just to keep you balanced. August 25th, 2024. This is absolutely huge. So it's the second year that AEW have done a show at Wembley Stadium. I was at the first one. It was amazing. What a night. I mean, I walked, I don't like sort of football or anything like that really. And I walked into Wembley Stadium and the atmosphere was like, I think, I think I get live sports now.
Starting point is 00:12:43 Yeah. I understood it. I'm the same with you. I wasn't the biggest football guy. Like I think like due to like being around my dad and my uncle so much, I was kind of like, okay, this is football. I enjoy the Euros, I enjoy the World Cup, but I never fully understood it. I've never been inside Wembley Stadium before in my life. And last year, I weren't even part of the company. I was brought in as a favour from New Japan to come over. I also feel like that was then being like, if you come over here, we'll treat you nice. And it was just kind of like walking out there. I can't even tell you, when I walked into the stadium and you see all those red seats and it was, it was a moment of just
Starting point is 00:13:19 being like, okay, like this is huge. This is like bigger than like why I could ever imagine any arena that I've been in. The most I've ever done was the Tokyo Diamond, that's 40,000 people. This is 80. This is a little bit like scary now. And then the moment I walked out to do my entrance, I couldn't see one red seat. And that terrified me a little bit. But like music hitting, people knowing the song. Like I was even saying this to my missus, but like the day before that I'd done an indie show where there was only 4,000 people in attendance. Just 5% of what I'm about to wrestle in front of now. And then hearing my music thinking like, maybe these people aren't going to know actually who I am. They're just going to be like, Oh, see the British flag. Yeah. But like going out there and as I'm walking
Starting point is 00:14:01 down the aisle, I'm hearing people sing my song back to me. I'm hearing people like chant my name and stuff like that. It was seeing fireworks go over your heads. It's like, this is like a weird dream sequence. Like I'm in Wembley Stadium, bro. This is unreal. I get to come back there with AEW this time. Now I'm like a full member of the roster. I've worked out the Kings, I've worked out like the rhythm and time. Still things that I'm getting used to actually being over there. But like I am really enjoying myself. It is completely different to what I'm used to. I'm enjoying the fact that we are bringing wrestling back to Wembley Stadium. Like there's so many wrestlers that we've all watched and looked up to, right? They've never wrestled in front of Wembley Stadium. To have that is such a privilege
Starting point is 00:14:42 to be a part of it. and just my whole goal and my whole ambition is to try my best to bring it back there every single year and just to make it just a yearly thing. I want it to be like a holiday for English wrestling fans. I want it to be like this big little holiday season. You know who I would like to see at Wembley? Here we go. Spin Doctor.
Starting point is 00:15:00 Spin Doctor. We could maybe like get Spin Doctor on the next one. If we can get like a Memorial Battle Royal, whoever passes next we'll get a memorial battle royal going and we'll get spin doctor in. Spin doctor in. I'll just say look Tony, he's alright, he's with me. Yeah, you might have to protect him quite a lot actually. I think he might die. Well there's a memorial foot in there. So where we start, we're still on water. Will, do you have a preference?
Starting point is 00:15:28 Still, I can't do sparkling. The Germans love sparkling water. I went over there a while ago. They love sparkling water, but I'm a still man. Yeah. It's almost standard in Germany. I absolutely love it. It is good though. The ultimate sparkling water. In a way. What the sparkling water, when you say you can't do it, does it have a negative effect? Not a negative effect. I just, I mean, I just don't
Starting point is 00:15:50 like it. So there's my negative effect. It produces hatred. It produces hatred. That might be good for wrestling. I mean, oh now, oh now. Don't get me in the zone more if I start drinking sparkling water. my hatred levels are. That could be a thing, I'm probably going to be pitching a lot to you this episode, but I reckon like mid-fight it looks like you're on the ropes, look like you're losing, and then you grab sparkling water and everyone's like we know what this means, and then you have it and then you're full of the hate. Yeah it's like your version of taking your straps down or like hulking up.
Starting point is 00:16:21 Like hulking up, that is it, you're right. Doing like the Shawn Michaels Kip-Up and then just shhhhhh. Just three silent minutes of you chugging two litres of Perrier. I don't think I could do two litres. Burping by the end. And you get the sponsorship in there. Yeah, to be fair, yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:37 The big burp as well. I feel like it's like, take it, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, burp. Yeah. That's what it is. Yeah. That's a good defence. It's a good defence mechanism. take it, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, if you're listed come out the other way. Well, can I say as well that you and AEW has brought one of the most delightful things, which is listening to American commentators use the phrase cheeky Nando's. It is quite funny that of Colin now, because honestly that was just a thing where I was
Starting point is 00:17:16 just like, I just didn't see wrestling as anything more than just like, oh, something I do on the weekends. I caught the cheeky Nando's kick, you know what I mean? Just having a little laugh of everyone. But like now it's just kind of formulated and now it's just carried on. And even to the point where like when I was in Japan and I turned into a bad guy, I remember Kevin Kelly telling me,
Starting point is 00:17:35 it was like, ah, maybe you should like ditch the funny names. And I tried it, it didn't work. It's stuck around now. Nando's must be absolutely delighted with that. I have never had any talks absolutely delighted with that. I have never had any talks with him at all. I've only talked to the cashier. That's it. But you tell the cashier, I've got a move called Cheeky Nando's. There was a thing ages
Starting point is 00:17:54 ago in Romford where like a fan was shocked that I was paying for Nando's and I was just like, yeah, it's all good dude. And he was like furiously tweeting Nando's. I'm like, give him a black card. I'm like, leave it. It's all right, I've got money. You're all right. They are cheeky. That is very cheeky. That is very cheeky of them.
Starting point is 00:18:10 That's beyond cheeky actually. One day I hope we can work something out. Because I mean, that's the sole reason why I've signed here. If I don't get a Nando sponsorship at the end of this, I don't know what I've got to do. You've got to rename all your moves to something on the Nando's venue. Something Perry, yeah. If I put him in like a finger for a leg lock, it'll be like the Perry chicken fires leg
Starting point is 00:18:30 lock. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Give him some, give him some Fino sides. Yeah, the wing roulette. I don't like a Fino. No, no? No, I'm not a fan. Oh, that's fine.
Starting point is 00:18:38 Do you use like a regular side? I like a creamy mash, Perry chips, sometimes a corn on a cob, spicy rice. Yeah. If I want to be healthy, long stem broccoli, but I just go full carb, brother. I want that dar by the end of it. I'm having a lot of Nando's at the moment because I'm on tour ordering Nando's to the dressing room and I ordered long stem broccoli all the time. The other day, I can't remember where we were, gets delivered normal broccoli. What? Yeah, like regular trees, not the long stem. It's like clearly someone's just gone to the shop.
Starting point is 00:19:06 That was about to say it, but right now, someone go Sainsbury's. Yeah, because no, we never ordered the long stem there. Yeah. No, we've got to give them this. They didn't even try and make it look long, like stick it on the store. No, they didn't even bother with that. Just normal broccoli. And as it happened, I thought in any other walk of life, this would be a boring story, but I'm going to save it to tell on my podcast. Yeah. This is a joy of having a food podcast. Even the matter how mundane
Starting point is 00:19:34 it is. You have no idea, Will, how many boring stories we've told on this. People lap it up. Can't believe it's the opposite of rested actually. It's the most low octane thing in the world. Poppadoms or bread? Poppadoms or bread? Poppadoms or bread? Poppadoms or bread? I love poppadoms. A bit of mango chutney.
Starting point is 00:19:55 Sauce. Yeah. And we talked a lot on this podcast about getting the tower of poppadoms and like smashing them. I mean, some people, the poppadoms turn up, they might like give the poppadoms a tap, like to break them. But on the top, I imagine as a wrestler, you've got to restrain yourself because they're turning the dust. Yeah, full chop, the choppadoms. As a wrestler I have to restrain myself. Yeah. They're turning the dust, surely.
Starting point is 00:20:22 The full chop, the choppadoms. As a result, I have to restrain myself. Yeah, you can't chop the poppadoms though. They'll go to powder. Every time I go to an Indian restaurant with my family, they're like, don't do it. You can't help yourself, elbow drop. Will, we're very proud of you, but please, this is supposed to be family time. Shut up, get the mango chutney.
Starting point is 00:20:42 So you favour the mango chutney, you go anywhere near those other dips. I don't mind the mint one, the mint one's cool, but that mango chutney sets my world on fire, bruv. Oh yeah? Yeah, man. That's nice. Do you like a chunky chutney or a smooth? Yeah. Gotta go smooth, fun. Yeah, I'm a smooth chutney, man. Do you spread it on the popadum or dip it in the popadum?
Starting point is 00:21:01 Nah, just dip, dip, but I feel like, I don't know, is that wrong? Is that the wrong haircut? Because like I sometimes just hog it, eh? Like, I mean, I see the little spoon in there and people kind of get the spoon and dip it. I was like, I'll put it in there. Well, there's never enough, is there? It's normally in a tiny little tin pot or something and that's supposed to go on the whole table. You need a jar out there or a bucket. Have you ever been for a curry with some other wrestlers and then it must be quite competitive who's getting the dip.
Starting point is 00:21:29 Because like I imagine wrestlers, some of them might be good shares, but some of them, if you've got rivalry in the ring. When we used to backyard, we used to like go, like we used to rent out this like youth center in Rainham and we used to go to an Indian afterwards. Like the guy would always know me. It's real nice to actually like have loads of time of memories where I was there. I just remember all that Indian food that I used to have all the time. But now I can't remember actually last time I had an Indian food, but now I might go tonight. You guys have talked me into it.
Starting point is 00:21:58 Well, if you're in America a lot as well, there's not like, there's less sort of good Indian restaurants. It's just all burgers and pizza and tacos all the time, mate. It's great. I'm not gonna like it. I mean, tacos, hard shell tacos, that's like, you know, food in a poppadom. That's been wrapped, yeah, that's like someone's wrapped a poppadom around some... Where have you been all my life? Most guests say this at some point. Your dream starter, Will?
Starting point is 00:22:28 It's garlic bread. Just keep me easy. A little hack. So you've done the poppadoms. And now you're onto the bread. What sort of garlic bread? Because obviously it comes in many shapes and sizes. Oh mate, I had this garlic bread a little while ago. I can't remember where I was. I was in London with some of my friends. And I remember eating it. It was so light. It was like a flat flatbread and it tore off so easy, it just kind of melted in your mouth so, whatever that bread was, I'll try and figure out a restaurant, their bread,
Starting point is 00:22:53 give me that. So was it like a sort of pizza, a pizza type bread? Kind of like a pizza, yeah, it was on like a big old wooden tray and it was already cut for you a little bit, but not too much, like cut a little bit, but enough to tear off yourself. Covered in garlic butter, like quite buttery or just a hint? Hint, it was more hint. You don't want it dripping in garlic butter? No, no, I don't want it too much. I think you go too much, you go a little bit overboard, don't you? Now, would you ever eat a garlicky thing before you'd wrestle or is there any etiquette
Starting point is 00:23:22 within the wrestling world that you don't eat stinky food before you have to? I think there's etiquette, aye. There's like, I always have me like toothbrushes, because normally you'll be eating whatever, like whiffed fruit or like some chicken or rice or whatever, right? But like, I always like brush my teeth beforehand just because I get so conscious about stuff like that. So then like, you never want to come backstage and you just go like, God damn kid, your breast stinks. Sure, right up in each other's faces. Yeah, like nose to nose sometimes every now and again, a bit of whiff comes. What's a memorable thing that a wrestler has said to you mid match just for you?
Starting point is 00:23:57 Because a lot of the time, this is what I've heard. Yeah, they could be really close to each other and like I've heard stories of wrestlers doing their first ever match and like the person they're fighting just saying to them, well done, you killed it. Really in their ear during the rest of the match. Other times when they might do a joke or or tell them I've just had an idea for a move and they're not ready for it yet. I had one where a fan rushed the ring.
Starting point is 00:24:22 A guy had me in a headlock and the referee went to your left and the guy let go of me and as this fan put his head underneath the bottom rope, the guy let go of me and just penalty kicked this fan in the face. I guess there's this like weird unwritten rule where like the moment you cross that threshold I guess you're in like enemy territory or whatever. But like, I don't know if this guy was just wanting to take the piss or if he was out with his mates and he was just trying to pop the boys or whatever. Like, but mate, I remember being in a chin lock and being like, ah, there'd be like oxygen coming back because he's let go. I was like, what's happened? And doesn't look behind, this is fat.
Starting point is 00:25:07 Olden his face, have to be like, why'd you do that? It feels like more of a written rule, to be honest. It feels like, it feels like you shouldn't. Have you guys ever had that with comedy? Like fans just like rush the stage at all? I mean, you get all of that sort of stuff, don't you? Yeah. You ever fight them? I never fight them. A few days ago, I kicked a full pint of beer all over a man on the front row. That was funny. Okay.
Starting point is 00:25:28 That was funny. I'm trying to be very well behaved on stage. By accident? No, purpose. I'm trying to be... But you acted as if it was... I acted like it was an accident. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:36 Okay. I'm doing a tour at the minute when I'm very well behaved and being nice to the audience, but the one thing I've allowed myself is that if they use the stage as a table and put something on the stage, I'm allowed to accidentally kick it over so I walked out there's a full pint of beer just on the stage and I I said it all over him and to be fair he found it funny he thought it was great and then I got him a new pint and then he drank that and I told him I'd put my balls in it. To be fair the only thing that when I talked to James about wrestling the thing he's most latched onto is I told
Starting point is 00:26:03 him about when MJF threw a drink in a kid's face and he loved that. So I think he's been influenced. It's my favourite thing ever. I love it. I can't believe it. I think I might start watching wrestling again. Just for that. That guy's really cool. I've heard a lot of stuff about him that is bad, but like I think it's great that he threw a drink in a kid's face.
Starting point is 00:26:18 If it was your kid, would you think he's funny? That's why I don't have a kid. Yeah. Because I need to enjoy that sort of stuff in the world. If I had a kid, I'd be too much with the mother. I guess that's so funny. You got that Instagram page of kids getting hurt. Mind your own business. Get hit by something. You're like, oh, that feels good for the soul. The Girl Scout cookies girl, where she's like sold all the Girl Scout cookies and she's boasted to the camera and she falls off the chair in her own kitchen. If you haven't watched that, you should watch it.
Starting point is 00:26:47 It's really funny. She could grow up to be a wrestler. That's she really slams into that kitchen countertop. She could take a bath. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, she's a she's a champ. But like that kid who gets the drink in the face, that is funny. That is funny.
Starting point is 00:27:01 It's funny how he just instinctively, the wrestler was the MSG. He gets the drink and just instinctively in the kid's face, not even the lady who slugged him off because he knows that's going to get to her even more. He didn't know it was tequila in it, fair enough. But that is the funniest thing ever. I hope that if we do a next off menu live gig we do, I hope there is a mother and a kid on the front row. Even if they're not slugging us off on the phone, tequila and the kids' face.
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Starting point is 00:28:52 I had one in Las Vegas. One of the best steaks I've ever had in my life. So forgive me, I'm a very boring man to steak, but this steak that I had was gorgeous. This is interesting. You spent so long in Japan, but the Japanese steak that you want to pick is someone that you had in Las Vegas. Oh so you say that, there was, now you just bringing back memories, there was a steakhouse, there's a place called Wolfgang steak over in Japan, this place in Roppongi where I've done many of my bad things, but like that steak restaurant over there like was next level so you know, I'll go with that one instead.
Starting point is 00:29:25 Yeah. The other one over in Wolfgang. Sorry, Las Vegas. I mean, maybe we could do both. We could have it that, you know, we cut it into strips and we just go alternate the strips between the two of them. Yeah. Not bad. You could do a platter. I mean, if you can send them both from Las Vegas
Starting point is 00:29:37 and Japan to the same, so it'd be expensive flight. Well, this is a dream restaurant. I'm a genie. I can magic them both onto your plate. What the lamps for? Yeah, that's what the lamps for. Exactly. That's where we live. That's where I live. Go on, give it a genie. I can magic and both onto your plate. What the lamps for? Yeah. That's where I live. Give it a little rub.
Starting point is 00:29:46 I can't rub my own lamp. Has a genie ever done that? That's filthy. Go blind. Yeah, a genie can't rub his own lamp. Yeah, I can't rub my own lamp. Are you kidding me? I've been told off about that.
Starting point is 00:29:54 So is this like the steak that's got so much like marbling and fat in it that it just like it melts in your mouth? It melts in your mouth. It melts in your mouth. It's one of the craziest meals I've ever had when I was just out with a couple of my friends. There was this guy called Big Dave for some strange reason. There's always a guy called Big Dave. I haven't spoken to him in ages and he just bought like in Japan we have these things
Starting point is 00:30:21 called sponsor meals where like someone like the promoters or like people that just enjoy wrestling just want to hang out with the wrestlers, get some signs, get some photos so they just treat the wrestlers to like a meal. Sometimes it's like really nice, sometimes it's like above and beyond, like I feel like royalty in Japan sometimes. And Big Dave just took us to this restaurant in Japan and ever since I've been there, it's one of my favorite places to go. I got to take my mom and dad there a little while ago. It was my last time in Tokyo before I set off for AW so I took them there. Just sitting in my mum's face when
Starting point is 00:30:53 this steak melted on her mouth I was a little bit just like, just chuffing myself. I was like, this is for you mum. There is something about that, like going to a really nice place to eat and then taking your parents there and your parents enjoying it is the best. Anyone else, I like taking friends to restaurants, it's great, but taking your parents somewhere and then them loving it is a very nice feeling. For me, Japan was a real thing for me to bring them over because for eight years, I was on good money but nowhere near enough to bring them out and see this country that's moulded and shaped me as a man. You've got to remember, I was a real strange 22-year-old
Starting point is 00:31:30 kid and I spent eight years here just growing up. And then when I'm finally about to leave, it was a perfect time for me to bring my parents over here. And my mum had a real difficult time with it because my great granddad was a prisoner of war over in Japan. Going there and saying to my mum like, let go of it, like look what this country's done for me, like and her to come over. It gets me emotional man, talking about her to come over. She was like, I can see why you love it so much. And seeing her smile and seeing how they treated her, like they really went above and beyond the line of duty to like take care of my parents, man. Like that was the best thing about Japan for me.
Starting point is 00:32:07 Wow, that's amazing. How is your mum, does she come and watch you wrestle? Or does she worry about you or is she like front row screaming at the top of her lungs? At the start of my career, I can remember her not enjoying it as much because she's like, once again, it's like no matter how choreographed things can be like slamming on that mat, it takes years off you, right? But like my mum once upon a time saw the bad guy go in the ring and grab a chair. And as he was about to go in the room, my mum snatched her chair from him and ran away. But like my mum has come to see me at like quite a lot of the high peak ones.
Starting point is 00:32:41 She saw me at Wembley, she was like, how can I not bring my mum and dad for that one? But like, I like, I hope mum and dad are proud. I have to stomach so much. Like when I was 14 years old and had a wrestling ring in my back garden, and like the neighbours thought we were like the neighbours from hell. Like they didn't get the police around, they thought we was running underground boxing events. And then we're like, no, it's wrestling. Police came up to it, grabbed the ring rope in my garden and we were like, yeah it's wrestling. But like having them there and like having their support, because they never thought I would ever be like anywhere near like this level with pro wrestling. They just kind of thought it would just be a weekend thing and one of these days I'm going
Starting point is 00:33:19 to grow up. I'll get there in the end one day. It was just kind of, it's cool to see like these crazy milestones that I never thought I would ever hit in wrestling. I generally said this so many times, I thought that this was just going to be like a weekend thing and I was very happy with that and I'd go do my mastic work from Monday to Friday and all these milestones I've hit and get into this be like, do you want to come Wembley Stadium? Like where the queen sits and stuff like that. And get to this, be like, do you want to come Wembley Stadium? Like, where the Queen sits and stuff like that and get to treat my family like they're actual royalty man. Can't put a price on it. Now I do have, that was a beautiful speech by the way, but I do have a very selfish follow-up
Starting point is 00:33:55 question to it. Go on. Do you still do Mastic and know how to do it? Because I have, it's been on my to do list for a while. It's like throughout our whole house. And like, I need someone else. There's going to be so many wrestling fans listening to this podcast for the first time because Will's on. Have you seen Will Osborne's on off menu? What do they talk about? Oh, Mastic. They talk about Mastic.
Starting point is 00:34:19 James needed some Mastic. It's urgent. I can do it. So we just done my kitchen. I just done the kitchen's urgent. I can do it. So we just done my kitchen, just done the kitchen, but I didn't do it. I got my missus mum to do it instead because I was doing something else. But she loves doing her jobs around the house. Give me her number. Your dream side dish, Will?
Starting point is 00:34:46 Sweet potato mash. Oh God, I didn't even think about that. The first thing that came to my mind was my missus made this incredible sweet potato mash. I put it in my mouth and I had to take a moment. That's the guy for it. It's an amazing thing. Sweet potatoes are beautiful. I do love sweet potatoes.
Starting point is 00:35:05 What did she put in it? I don't know. I'd let her get on with it, mate. Like I just, every now and again, I'll just go like, do you need any moral support? But like, mate, she just does it all. She cooks. She's a wonderful woman. She takes care of the little boy, takes care of me. And she's a wrestler as well, right? She's a real good professional wrestler, real good. Ed's wife is a wrestler also. No, well no, she trains because she enjoys it for fitness and enjoys wrestling.
Starting point is 00:35:31 When does she train? Play Fight. Oh, Carre Noir, Tom Balkins. Love him. We came up in the same circuit together. I've got stories when he used to actually be my trainer for a company called LDN and then I went somewhere else because I didn't enjoy it as I came to Lund School, Lund School, Luchalibre and then he came so then I was like it was kind of at the same level and we've got like we've traveled up and down the road so many times like can't tell you how proud I am like I saw it seeing him over in DDT for Japan seeing him over there it was just like man man, he's got it, man. He's so good.
Starting point is 00:36:05 He's out on the injury list right now, but he should be coming back soon. Surely. He's also, I think, a genius. I had to do some training sessions with him for a comedy wrestling thing that we've done before. And he can watch someone do a move and then he's got photographic memory. So he just sort of slides his eyes back and he can talk you through everything you've done wrong. It's just incredible. So here's why you're crap. Yeah, exactly. Frame by frame. Yeah. It's because you're not a professional wrestler and you're doing it for humor. Ed's glossed over there that he did a big rest in match recently. It was recently, it was a couple of years ago, but it was so Max in a van who,
Starting point is 00:36:39 a comedy double act. Max in a van? Max and Yvonne.'d be good. That'd be good. Max in a van. This is the spin doctor. So Max was a pro wrestler when he was like 14, but then went into comedy, but still tries to keep up with wrestling. And then every so often they put on these big charity events where they get pro wrestlers and comedians and they train up the comedians. Okay. So we did one at the Indigo at the O2 for Comic Relief. It was so fun. You enjoy yourself? It's more fun than doing comedy. I reckon you guys would be good at it just because once again, and we're going back to that whole like it's reading the room. Yeah. Seeing what the audience is like and see what they're not liking. I mean, obviously when
Starting point is 00:37:18 you do your first thing, you're just like stick to the script. But like when you start getting relaxed in there, I do feel like you just, you have a little bit more fun. Would you do it again? Yeah, totally. 100%. Yeah, I would. I mean, yeah. All right. It was very silly, but yeah, I was at the gambler gamble and I was like distracting the ref with scratch cards and stuff. And also it was a tag match and Max is really good and Evanne's done it loads and then my, my partner was a professional wrestler. So it was, so match and Max is really good and Ivan's done it loads and then my partner was a professional wrestler. So it was, I felt very looked after.
Starting point is 00:37:48 You were a heel, weren't you? I was a heel, yes. You're a bad guy. Did you enjoy being the bad guy? Loved it. Because I mean, with comedians, right? You do look at someone in the audience and the whole art is, I'm going to take the piss out of you.
Starting point is 00:38:01 So like sometimes it's just like, it's just that evil thing that comes out inside you. Yeah. I found it much easier to do that. Well, it's so much easier to make guys hate you than like you. So it's so much easier. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Also I look at some of the, some of the like faces in some of the companies and they seem to have to spend ages like shaking everyone's hand or hanging around and getting photos. What's wrong with that? Yeah. But it takes ages. It's usually easier to be horrible. I love having a chat with everyone. Oh, my, there's like a little old biddy in the crowd and she's like saying my son, my son likes you. I love it, man. Like I can't, I can't get enough of it.
Starting point is 00:38:36 Brings my day. Like I hate being a bad guy. I love being a good guy. I just want to shake everyone's hands. Like, look, there's me with your old nan. Like go on. Oh, that's lovely. You're in the right place then.
Starting point is 00:38:44 Yeah, I need to be. It takes half that's lovely. You're in the right place then. It takes half a second to throw a drink in the kids' face. Then you're out. Then you're in the camp home. That sweet potato mash sounds delicious. It does. I'll get Al to cook you some one day. Yeah. Come round mine. June could bring it round with the mastic.
Starting point is 00:39:01 When June comes round to do the mastic, but don't get him mixed up. I don't want sweet potato mash. In your croffles and your toilets. Yeah, yeah. So like, please June, if you're listening, make sure they're in separate tupperware. Yeah. I don't know what mastic comes in. Comes in little carton boss. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:20 Or a can. Open up a can of whoop-ass like my hero. James's hero is the rock. Can of whoop-ass like my hero. James's hero is The Rock. Can of whoop-ass is Stone Cold Steve Austin boss. Look, I don't know. To be honest, I never watched it, but I loved him and I loved, so all of the catchphrases of all the different rest of that era, I think of all the Rock. I think the Rock sucked it. I know he didn't. But like it's becoming like a meme now where like you'll see like clips from the Attitude
Starting point is 00:39:47 era like now played into like Instagram reels and like TikToks all the time where like someone would be doing something and a rocker would just appear out of nowhere going, shut up bitch. But it's kind of cool how wrestling can like bleed into like any situation because like wrestling we're just allowed to do whatever we want really. Yeah, you get some extreme characters so it lends itself to memes and gifs and all sorts like any situation because at wrestling we're just allowed to do whatever we want really. Yeah, you get some extreme characters so it lends itself to memes and gifs and all sorts of things. Didn't The Rock influence your on stage persona as well?
Starting point is 00:40:12 Yeah, yeah, the inflated bravado. Yes. Yeah, that's what I loved about The Rock was that he was just so arrogant on stage but also comical at the same time. Yeah. And that was, yeah, I didn't know anything about his actual wrestling style, if he was a good wrestler, but I knew that he was really funny and that it was funny when he did the people's eyebrow
Starting point is 00:40:30 and when he told people to know their roles, that was funny. Jabroni. Calling people Jabroni was funny. I still find Jabroni funny. When Kendrick said Jabroni in a recent diss track, I thought that's the funniest thing I've ever heard. Ha ha ha.
Starting point is 00:40:48 Your dream drink, is it tequila in a kid's face? No, brother. There's an AWPR out there. We'll be absolutely losing your mind. Yeah, just being like, oh, don't mention me tequila. It's the best PR ever. I'm saying I liked it. Alcoholic drink, let's just go easy. I'm just double vodka, Coke Zero.
Starting point is 00:41:08 Just like, I'm easy with that. Yeah. Has that always been your go-to? Yeah, man. I enjoy vodka more than any other drink. Whiskey, I can't handle it. Tequila just becomes a wild night that I don't remember. Red wine, I can't do.
Starting point is 00:41:22 I was vomiting all night. I nearly died from red wine once, so I just don't want to do that. When was that? I was out in Japan. All the boys having a couple drinks. This sponsor was just plying me over red wine all the time. My boy Hanare, who's over in Japan right now, took me home, put me in my hotel room. I ran myself a bath, fell asleep in the bath. Oh no. I slept there, the water was going over there. I had to pay a two grand fine or like a bill because all the water spilled out into the lobby. It just overflew. I woke up at 4am in the morning, freezer. I was like, what the fuck is it going on? It's all like everywhere, son. Like everywhere, mate. Red wines are no go. Vodka is just, it's been my safest drink. I've never like been
Starting point is 00:42:03 too slaughtered to the point where I drunk too much, I can't wrestle the next night. I'll get slaughtered and I feel a bit rough. It's not stopping me from doing a bumping feed for someone. The drinking in Japan is wild because I think people have an impression if they've not been there that... Japan has a very polite society and they have all those elements, but then you go out at night and they get crazy. It is wild. The amount of times we'd be like a three week tour and there'd be so many like random nights out, we'd go out with the sponsors and you'd just be doing karaoke and
Starting point is 00:42:33 it would start at like 11 PM and then you're walking back to your hotel room at about 5 30 and then a bus picks you up at seven and you're still pissed. You're on this bus, you've been given like a walk on. You can tell we're the ones that have been too smashed because the bus driver gives you like a carrier bag. He's like, if you're going to be sick, do it in that. Well, I've seen people in Japan do that thing where they're like passed out on the street and they get a carrier bag and use the handles to hook over their ears. So they've got like a sort of horse's nose bag so they can just be sick freely.
Starting point is 00:43:07 My favorite one that I saw was at eight in the morning. I saw this guy stumbling around in Shibuya, passed out on the street in his suit, go to the gym. I worked out, came back, guy was just waking up, went off to work. Like, you know what I mean? Like for some strange reason, I think it's quite common. Like people might need to like tell me about it, but a lot of businessmen would just like stay out all night, party, get drunk and just wake up and go straight to doing what's for sleep in the street. I think they'll get like one of those little capsules. Yeah. Like and they're just sleeping that is, is cheaper and like better for them. I could never do it.
Starting point is 00:43:45 So no, I don't know how, I don't know how people manage it. Cause I was there quite recently and only noticed this time that they sell like shirts, ties and underwear in the seven 11th. So you just walk into like a corner shop and so you can just buy it and get changed and go to work. Yeah. I can't wait to go to Japan. Have you never been?
Starting point is 00:44:02 No, I'm going to go to Japan for the first time. How long are you going for? Two weeks. And you never been? No, I'm going to go to September for the first time. How long are you going for? Two weeks. And you're going for tour or you're going for? No, just holiday. Oh mate, after this, like if you want anything to go for like Wolfgang steak, I want to say
Starting point is 00:44:18 I highly recommend it. Great steakhouse. If you're out for a night out, go to Roppongi. Everyone's there just to enjoy themselves. I don't know if you go out. I'm going to do everything that you've already said in this podcast. I'm going to fall asleep in the bath. I'm going to make sure I do that. You're going to hook a carrier bag up.
Starting point is 00:44:31 I'm going to be hooking that. Even if I'm not feeling sick, I'm going to be walking around with a carrier bag as a nose bag all the time. Go to a Don Quixote. There's like a big, I wouldn't say it's a convenience store, but it's just a big like super store and it's got everything you want in it. So if you just want like, if you want video games, it's got it. If you've got costumes, it's got it.
Starting point is 00:44:53 If you want adult stuff, it's right next to the kids toys. Like crazy bit. And they've got their own theme tune. Yeah. That they play on a loop when you're in there. Oh, I like that. Yeah. I like a theme tune on a loop.
Starting point is 00:45:04 Can you remember it, Ed? No, I can't. Don to the one in Tokyo as well. And it's a small world on the same day. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. Is in Japanese. So at least it's a bit different. I learned a new language. You will love it though. Honestly, you will love your time out there. I can't wait. Go and see some wrestling. Oh man. Yeah. Go see New Japan. New Japan was like my home promotion for eight years, man. Like I loved every single minute of it. They run Kuriken Hall like every month, like four or five times a month there.
Starting point is 00:45:51 It's always good to go to Kuriken Hall. It's like the homestay of what professional wrestling is. We went to a New Japan show when we were there. And I had an amazing time, but the crowd is so different. Like I thought they were going to be really quiet. And then as soon as the show started, music kicked in, everyone was clapping along.'s like compared to UK crowds So many women in the crowd like it seemed to be like a proper balance or more women than men in the crowd
Starting point is 00:46:13 Yeah, a lot of it was I think at its peak. It was like 60% of our audience was women Yeah, so like just about a bunch of hunks man That's what I'll pitch. Bunch of hunks. Get my girlfriend to, I've got to convince her to go to wrestling. I'll say there are a lot of hunks. Bunch of hunks.
Starting point is 00:46:32 Do you want to see some hunky Japanese men? Yes. Okay, I'll take you. Yeah, yeah, I know where to go. Yeah. We arrive at your dream dessert. I am so easy. Just give me like a brownie and some ice cream.
Starting point is 00:46:47 That's all I want. From creams? I mean they don't do brownies. I had to get myself a waffle instead. But like, no, I love a little brownie. If someone can make me a brownie and some ice cream, I'm your boy. How soft do you want the brownie to be in the middle? I want it a bit creamy in the middle.
Starting point is 00:47:02 Like I want it to like, I don't like that, like a hard brownie. I like it when it's just like a little bit hard on the outside, but smooth on the inside. Yeah, for sure. I think that a crispy, crispy top to a brownie. Yeah, you need that. And really gooey inside. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:17 Heaven. I'm ice cream with that as well. Yeah, man, a bit of vanilla ice cream. Yeah. Never done anyone any arm. Yeah. You can't name anyone here that goes I had some ice cream, done me arm. If they are, we don't need them in society anymore.
Starting point is 00:47:29 I'm type 1 diabetic, so it's possible. Oh, it's possible? Sorry, so we've got to cut you off? That's fair enough. No, I don't deserve to be here. You know who you remind me of a lot? Oh God, I hate these, go on. My brother. Oh, do you like your brother? Yeah yeah, oh yeah I do. I'm about to say I can't say it. But yeah you really remind me, you look like him and kind of same mannerisms, not the same voice he's from Kettering but like it's been really weird sitting here for the whole episode. Do you feel close to me?
Starting point is 00:48:01 Yeah every now and again I actually think I'm listening to my brother. Yeah. And then I have to remind myself I'm not listening to my brother. And I have to ask you questions that, cause I was like, I know everything about this guy. I got nothing to ask him. I was like, no, it's not my brother. Would your brother like Will's menu? Yeah. He'd love this brownie. Yeah. He'd love the steak. He loves steak. I think he'd like the sweet potato mash. I don't know what he's drinking these days, my brother actually, but he loves a Coke Zero, so I'll put a bit of vodka in it. Garlic bread definitely. Yeah, I think he would like the whole menu.
Starting point is 00:48:31 Yeah, there we go then. I think he'd like the whole menu for sure. I've done good then. I've done all right for your brother, I've done all right for you lads. Yeah. We also, we didn't tell you that I also once competed in the comedy wrestling match.
Starting point is 00:48:43 Twice actually, I did. Oh, wait, so more than him? Yeah. But you're essentially a pro wrestler then. Thank you. Let's just see what James did. As in me who had like a 15 minute tag match and then what did you do? What have you done James? Well the first time I joined during a Royal Rumble and I sang my own name to the tune of I'm a survivor by Destiny's Child. So it's I'm James to the tune of I'm a Survivor by Destiny's Child. So it's I'm James A. Castro, I'm James A. Castro over and over again for a very long time. And then I went into the ring and then I was immediately hit in the face of a tray and
Starting point is 00:49:15 taken out. And that was it. And then the second time, two years later, I sang the same song, but with a full dancing troop behind me. And then I got in the ring and then I was hit in the face with a tray again and take it away. Do you ever wonder how you get yourself into these situations? Because it's like only wrestling can that happen. It's like you just rock up to the venue, you've got your bags, you're just kind of, what am I doing today? It's like you're singing your own name.
Starting point is 00:49:42 We know you don't last time, but this time we got backup dancers. Is there going to be any different outcome? No, same tray. We know you don't last time, but this time we got backup dances. Is there going to be any different outcome? No, same tray. It's a tray again, unfortunately. Both times I forgot to put my hand in front of my face. Both times. Where's the fun in that?
Starting point is 00:49:56 Yeah, exactly. Thank you, Will. Where's the fun in that? Finally someone in my corner, because everyone's criticized me for this. When we were like, it shouldn't really be promoted like this, but when we were like backyard, it was almost like a badge of honor when you hit stuff with your head so hard. But all my friends now, I don't know what's happened to them, they're a bit loopy now. Yeah, I wasn't a genie before, before I got hit in the face of the trade. That's how I got my powers.
Starting point is 00:50:17 Now you live in a lamp. Now I live in a lovely lamp. Thank you so much for coming to the Dream Restaurant, Will. Pleasure to meet all of you guys. Thank you so much for having me. I'm going to read your menu back to you now. We'll see how you feel about it. No, that's exciting.
Starting point is 00:50:28 I forgot about that format point. That's the first time that Ed's ever forgot that I read the menu back. Yeah. We were talking about people getting hit in the face with trades and what happened along the last effect. And Ed just forgot a podcast he's done over 200 times. We just felt a nice place to wrap it up.
Starting point is 00:50:41 It was nice, but I mean the listeners, when this goes out, the listeners are going to go insane that that happened. Cause that's staying in the edit. Cause they won't believe that Ed forgot the menu being made by Cal. I know that to you, it's not that big of a deal. This is all new to me. This is literally like, I've basically just turned heel. This is what's happened. This is like, if like, you know, you were picking the crowd up, going to do your finishing move and then forgot to do it and just went back in the locker room. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:09 Matt, you're still going on. Yeah. Well, you've lost, buddy. Well, you can't do that, buddy. You want still water. You would like a poppadoms with smooth mango chutney. Lovely. You want flatbread, garlic, a garlic bread flatbread.
Starting point is 00:51:24 From the restaurant. From the restaurant. Tears nice and easy from the restaurant. From the restaurant that I like. Yeah. Main course, you would like two types of steak, one from Las Vegas and one from the Wolfgang Steakhouse in Japan. Yes. A side of sweet potato mash made by your wife.
Starting point is 00:51:37 Yes. A double vodka and Coke Zero. A dessert, a chocolate brownie with vanilla ice cream. Never did anyone any of that. Dirty girl. Yeah, you feel like a dirty girl here, isn't that? Yeah. That is a great menu. Yeah, that's a delicious menu.
Starting point is 00:51:51 And do you think you could eat all of that? Yeah, mate. And then get in the ring? Oh, oh, mate. I mean, sometimes, right, sometimes we don't know what's happening on certain shows, right? So like, one of these days, I remember thinking to myself, like, I'm sure I'm not wrestling one of these days.
Starting point is 00:52:06 And I had four brownies, bruv. And I got sorted, called into the office and I went, we're doing a casino gauntlet, gauntlet match. I had this big old like, why didn't you tell me? Went out there with a big old dab on me. Just like doing my flips and everything and just having like a beach whale going. Are there any moves that you were like, absolutely, I can't do that after I've eaten four brownies? Are there any worse moves to do than others?
Starting point is 00:52:31 I just think what's the worst that can happen? Because at the end of it, wrestling is all about a story. If it turned out that I did one of my moves after eating these brownies and I cracked my pants, at the end of it, it's a story that I can tell my kid. Do you know what I mean? I can do it. It will always be like it. Is it a story they'd have to incorporate into the show though?
Starting point is 00:52:49 I mean, maybe I might be Pooh Pants Billy from now on, do you know what I mean? Yeah, you'd have to be Pooh Pants Billy. Imagine if the spin doctor shot his pants. That would be an absolute disaster. That would be the crops better. Actually, this is a good way to wrap it up. Thank you so much, Will.
Starting point is 00:53:06 Thank you, guys. Well, there we are. What a lovely chat with Will. At the start of the episode, you had a go at me for messing up the format and look what happened. Yes, I messed up the format. I went too early. Sweet.
Starting point is 00:53:23 Sweet. What's the word I'm looking for? You re-put your soul. Sweet, you re-put your soul. Oh, I forgot what I was going to say. Yeah, maybe your transfer to wrestling shouldn't happen very soon, because that wouldn't be a great promo if you're sweet. What's the word I'm thinking of? I thought it was Zac Efron in Iron Claw.
Starting point is 00:53:45 Yes. I'd get my brother to come in and do the speeches. Yes. He looks like Will Osborne. Yeah. And your brother. That was a lovely moment, I thought. Yeah. Where you admitted that you thought Will was like your brother.
Starting point is 00:53:57 Yeah, it was. It was really nice. If my brother's listening to this, it was very nice to talk to you today. Thank you so much to Will for coming in and thank you for not saying the secret ingredient, chops. Chops, you didn't say chops. Yeah. That was good. And we got to hear about what he would have at Nando's as well. I did a good joke about chops though, that I don't think, I don't think Will or you heard where you're talking about smashing the poppadoms and I called them choppadoms. I didn't hear that. I said it quite quietly. I didn't hear that because I think like Will hadn't come across the karate chop on the
Starting point is 00:54:28 poppadoms before. No, he was blown away by that. So you know, I was too focused on that. I wasn't I wasn't even aware you're in the room at that point. I mean, you didn't even mention that it's called Shall I Be Mother, which would be a really good name for a wrestling move. That's a great name for a wrestling move. Where you just smash someone on the head and they shatter into shards. Yeah. So if Tim Keever's a wrestler, that would be- Shall I be mother?
Starting point is 00:54:51 He would put his hand in the air and the audience would know what it means. And he's like, he's asking them, shall I? Shall I? Shall I be mother? Yes. And then doesn't. I'd love that.
Starting point is 00:55:00 If you are a wrestling fan already, or you're thinking, where can I go and have the best introduction to live wrestling that I could possibly have, grab yourself a ticket for All In, AW All In at Wembley Stadium on the 25th of August. That is coming up soon. I promise you have a great night.
Starting point is 00:55:18 It's so much fun. The atmosphere is incredible. It does. I mean, look, when I went to that little community center in Barton Seagrave, it was one of the best nights of my life. So I would imagine that Wembley Stadium with a bunch of professionals is like, I don't know, transcendental. Yes. Yes. I would agree. And I can't wait to go. And if you're in Wales, we should have said this in the intro, really. They are for the first time filming a TV show outside of North
Starting point is 00:55:45 America so they're doing AW Dynamite and AW collision on the same night at the Utilita Arena in Cardiff so you can get tickets for that as well August 21st I mean why not do the crazy the crazy double speaking of Wales there was also a wrestler at that community center wrestling match called Shamu thank you so much to Will for coming in. Thank you for all the stories about Japan and your life. It's very moving at times. Yeah, it was actually. Really appreciate it.
Starting point is 00:56:13 Really, really nice. And can't wait to see Will wrestle all in. I hope he wins. Hope he wins. Yes. We also have some food shout outs we'd like to do. We've had a lot of food sent to us. We're very, very grateful. Well, Bonita says do some food shout outs. We like to do. We've had a lot of food sent to us. We're very, very grateful.
Starting point is 00:56:25 Well, Bonita says do some food shout outs. We're like, well, where's this food? It's just been in the office. Yeah. Bonita's been nibbling it away. Been nibbling away. Like a little rat. Little mouth. Oh, I was going to say a mouse, but maybe. A rat. We've had some Chocke sent in from Land Chocolate. Thank you very much for that.
Starting point is 00:56:39 Thank you, Land Chocolate! And thank you to Whittakers. But not the Whittakers that we're familiar with yes but we were very happy with you know New Zealand Whitakers is the one that I've run my mouth off about loads it's nice to discover there's another Whitakers chocolate out there. There's another Whitakers knocking around they probably sent us some chocolate yes based on the fact that we were talking about Whitakers and that they thought we were talking about them yeah but you know double promotion we were we're talking about New Zealand Whitakers but now we're talking about you. Yeah, you got us
Starting point is 00:57:05 We've had some coffee from 15 grams coffee roasters and Tate coffee. Thank you for selling that in That's always very useful to give to guests etc. And me Ed Gamble. We're wide awake We're I am buzzing mate and we got sent a load of football special James straight from the Frankie Boyle episode It's what Frankie would have at the pub. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It looks like beer. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But he says it's quite nice. I'm going to tuck into some right now. And as we're recording this, it's Euro season. So why don't we crack open a football special and watch some special football? The best in the game. Thank you very much
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