Off Menu with Ed Gamble and James Acaster - Ep 266: Ella Purnell
Episode Date: October 9, 2024‘Fallout’ and ‘Yellowjackets’ star Ella Purnell plays the Off Menu game this week. It’s always the quiet ones… Ella Purnell stars in Sky Original ‘Sweetpea’ which is available on Sky a...nd the streaming service NOW from 10 October. Follow Ella on Instagram @ella_purnell Recorded and edited by Ben Williams for Plosive.Artwork by Paul Gilbey (photography and design).Follow Off Menu on Twitter and Instagram: @offmenuofficial.And go to our website www.offmenupodcast.co.uk for a list of restaurants recommended on the show.Watch Ed and James's YouTube series 'Just Puddings'. Watch here. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Hello, I'm Amy Gledhill.
And I'm Harriet Kemsley.
You might remember us from when we were guests on Off Menu where I tried to find where I
got seaweed mash and we had to call my mum.
And I talked about how my mum was worried that I might drown in my own body.
That's cool.
That is cool.
Well, we've started doing a new podcast called Single Ladies in Your Area
Because we're both single in our 30s
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We'll even share some of your dating horror stories.
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So follow Single Ladies in your area on your favourite podcast app
and catch the first episode on Friday the 4th of October.
Amy, I'm scared.
Shall we call our mums?
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Welcome to the off menu podcast taking the Mars ice cream of conversation and eating that.
Oh, I love one of them.
And then having another one of humor.
Because I can only have, I can't have one in a row, James.
I need two in a row.
That's a gamble.
You must like a Mars ice cream.
Yeah. It's just, you know, I a Mars ice cream. Yeah it's just you
know I think everyone always it's always a bit disappointed when you just choose
something that's just one thing and you eat it. Yeah. For the beginning you know
I mean it's good that you added another Mars ice cream I guess. Yeah. But you know.
I thought you're gonna say it's disappointing when you want a Mars ice
cream and all they have in the shop is a Snickers ice cream which is still nice
but it's not as good as a Mars ice cream. The nuts have in the shop is a Snickers ice cream which is still nice but it's not as good as a Mars ice cream the nuts get in the way
of the caramel and I like that of humor. That's a gamble my name is James A. Cassett
together we own a dream restaurant every single week we invited a guest the last
of their favorite ever star to make us a side dish and drink not in that order
and this week our guest is Ella Pennell. Ella Pennell is a wonderful actor, James.
She's in Fallout, which is one of my favorite TV shows
of the last year, I'd say.
It's absolutely incredible.
She's in Yellow Jackets, which I also love.
And she's in a brand new show called Sweet Pea.
Yes, it's out tomorrow as of when this is coming out.
Yeah, it's out on October 10th.
Yes.
So it will be out probably. If you're listening to this on the day that it comes Yeah, it's out on October 10th. Yes. So it will be out probably,
if you're listening to this on the day that it comes out,
it's out tomorrow,
but most of you will probably hear this after.
So it is out now.
It's out now.
On Sky and now.
And I'll play the serial killer.
It's very exciting.
Yes, it looks really cool.
I'm very excited to see sweet P.
We'll have a little chat about that.
And look, here's the crazy thing, yellow jackets.
I thought Heather was American. Yeah, this always your mind doesn't it acting. It's amazing the accent she does in that.
Papa just thought that's an American person. Could you not ask her about doing accents because
I feel like you ask every actor who does accents about accents and then what they do is they say
can you do accents and then you go no and you get really shy and then I have to say yes
You can do Shrek and then you have to do Shrek. Okay. Well, I won't ask about access
I don't want to do Shrek. Will you do Shrek quickly now? Don't care. I will never do Shrek for you
Good that's out the way. But if Ella says a secret ingredient on which we have pre agreed
She will be kicked out of the dream restaurant and the secret ingredient this week is
She will be kicked out of the dream restaurant and the secret ingredient this week is
New coke new coke Cola Cola. That's from fallout. That's from fallout brand of loves it
Yeah, you would drink new coke Cola wouldn't you I drink you could color in a heartbeat What do you think it tastes like like code just normal Cola? Really? Yeah. Yeah, I think it's got some spicy like yeah radiation in it
Yeah, yeah
I don't think they'd want the spicy radiation though,
because they all live in underground communities to keep away from the radiation. Yeah. But
then you want a little bit of it just to keep life exciting. You have it in your cola.
Yeah. Drinking my cola, wearing my pip boy. So yeah, we will kick L of out. No. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah. Well, the listener can't see, but it's just
like myself got the dopiest smile on his face. That was really smiling. Eyes half open. Just
looking around. Oh, I'm sleepy as well. It's really early in the morning. But yes, if Ella
says new Coca Cola, we'll have to kick up at the Dream Restaurant. Hopefully she won't and we'll get to hear a full menu. Yes. This is the off-menu menu of Ella Pennell.
Welcome, Ella, to the Dream Restaurant.
Hello.
Welcome, Ella Pennell, to the Dream Restaurant.
We've been here for some time.
I'm so excited to be here.
Surprised? Do you feel surprised by that?
I feel surprised. Thank you so much.
For the listener, Ella said that she'd not heard the podcast before
because you want us to be surprised.
I want us to be surprised. I want to be surprised.
And you surprised right up top by that huge introduction.
Yeah, I'm shocked. I'm appalled actually.
I'm shocked.
There's a fine line between surprised and appalled
and I've crossed over.
Already?
Yeah.
What, eight seconds in?
I do that for everyone just so you know.
It wasn't just because you said I want to be surprised. I was like, I'll give you a surprise. And then I did that for everyone just so you know it wasn't just because you said I want
to be surprised I'm like I'll give you a surprise and then I did that stupid thing
why'd you tell me that now I don't feel special anymore
it was louder than normal it was louder than normal yeah I was trying to surprise you because
I knew that's what you wanted yeah yeah so I really bought it
yeah thank you yeah he's a genie he's a genie in this
I'm a genie in this in he's a genie. You're a genie.
He's a genie in this.
I'm a genie in this.
In this.
You're a genie in this.
Yeah, I'm a genie in this.
Got it.
Okay.
Yeah, yeah.
Because I can get you food from anywhere for your dream meal.
Of course.
Right.
Because, you know, otherwise the whole podcast would fall apart.
Right.
Of course.
That makes sense.
So is that a surprise that he's a genie?
In this.
Well, I saw the lamp when I walked in here, so I assumed there'd be some sort of genie
involved in the menu. And I'm just there'd be some sort of genie involved in
the menu.
And I'm just realizing now the lamp does ruin the surprise Benito. So we shouldn't really
have the lamp in here.
How am I meant to appear?
Unless I rub the magic lamp three times. Come on guys. Come on. These are basic genie rules.
We never actually have anyone rub the lamp. So for some reason, I'm just always just whenever
I like just popping out the lamp.
Okay.
So we've kind of changed. But then when we did the live shows,
we had a giant lamp on stage
and the guests did have to rub the lamp before.
Right.
But that's because everyone could see us.
Right, it kind of does ruin that.
Yeah, you should have one of those floors,
you pop out the floor.
Yeah, we should do that.
There's probably a technical name for those.
No, I think that it's called
The Floors Where You Pop Out The Floor.
I think so too.
If someone offered you a play, and was like, Ella, we need you in this play, but you've
got to pop out the floor.
Would you do it?
But how many times would they have to say you're going to pop out the floor during the
play if you were to say no?
Oh, that's a really good question.
Also very oddly specific.
And weirdly phrased.
I don't know.
I've never done it.
So I don't know how much I'd like it.
I think I'd quite like to, it's like, I love roller coasters.
I'm thinking of it like a roller coaster.
It's kind of like the opposite of the drop. It's the lift.
Yeah.
Well, I guess you do have to go up to come down, don't you?
That's very deep.
So deep.
What the hell?
It's 10 past nine in the morning, guys.
That was so profound.
People listening to this won't know.
10 past nine, and then they just drop out on it.
Gosh, I surprised myself with that.
I'd like to do it quite a few times.
I'd actually say I won't do the play
unless I can do it at least 10 times.
Well, every entrance of your character
needs to be from the floor.
Yes, please.
That would be kind of amazing.
Would you want them spread out though?
Cause what if they were like...
Oh yeah, definitely spread out.
Yeah, if not 10 in 10 minutes.
Oh God, no.
No, because I...
You just want to pop it out the floor.
I mean, rough. How would because I pop it out the floor.
How would you feel about dropping through the floor though?
Another good question. Is that safe? Yeah, it'll be safe.
It just, the floor just disappears and I just fall through. Yeah. Like it's a trap door. You just go. Oh, okay. Uh, no, I don't, I think I'd like that less because I'm quite
accident prone. So like one, the odds of me hurting myself, if
I'm doing it 10 times, quite, I'd say like 50%, I'd say quite high. If I'm doing it two
times, it's still 50%, but it's like less injuries, you know what I mean?
And it's every night as a play. So it's going to be-
It's every night.
There's a lot of injuries in a run.
Twice a Saturday.
How long's the run? You know?
Oh, months I think.
Oh, it's really successful.
Months?
Yeah.
Months, yeah.
Months long.
Yeah, yeah. People love it. It does really well. I'm out, you've lost me.
Yeah, okay.
That bit in the prestige where he removes, because he dropped through the floor as part
of his act, one of the magicians does.
Oh, that's right.
And the other magician sabotages him by removing the crash mat.
Oh yeah.
So he goes, I would just think that every night.
I'd go, what if another magician is sabotaging me?
Do you know what I mean?
But you're a genie, you can kind of...
Genies and magicians, that's rough rivalry.
It was a rivalry?
Genies and magicians.
Surely genies win every time.
Genie Trump's a magician?
Genie Trump's a magician.
You'd think so, right?
I'm a magician.
That makes sense.
That feels right.
Yeah, but then magicians, like we're their biggest threat because we can take all their
business because we can do any magic trick.
I mean, they're kind of imposters actually in your industry.
They're fake genies. industry. They're fake genies
Yeah, yeah, yeah, they are fake genies and that's what we call them and I thank both of you for recognizing
We're talking about you acting in plays, but come on sweet peas coming out tomorrow tomorrow
It's looking at Benito there because he uh, he was very confused. It wasn't he before
Before we started recording this. I think you're doing great Benito. Yeah, but he was confusing before we started recording this. I think you're doing great, Benito. Yeah, but he was confusing before we started recording.
A wee bit.
But as we know, today is the 9th of October
and tomorrow the show.
The show comes out, Sweet Pea, the show.
It's always the quiet ones.
It is.
That's the tagline.
What can you tell people about Sweet Pea?
What can I tell people?
Well, okay, so Sweet Pea, it's a show
about a quiet young woman. Well, she's got a lota is, it's, it's a show about a quiet young
woman. Well, she's got a lot to say. It's just no one's listening. She's played by anyone
we know. You may, you may have heard of her, her name's Ella. She's great. Yes. Fantastic.
She comes up through the floor. Quite clumsy about accident prone. It's funny because every
time she just appears in the scene, we don't know where she comes up through the floor. No, Rhiannon is is very quiet. She's sort of overlooked, very invisible. And then
she discovers this intoxicatingly addictive taste for murder. Can you tell I've been doing
loads of press? And this is my like stock kind of corporate special. I don't know. I told you I do the genie thing every time.
Yeah, sorry.
Sorry, she, she, she kills people and it's, um, it's, she likes it.
Ooh, that sounded not great.
Well, let me go again.
Actually that's selling the show to me.
She killed people and she likes it.
She kills people and she likes it.
To be honest, that's a good tagline as well.
It's always the quiet ones, but it could have just been, she kills people and she likes
it.
And I would watch that.
You know, we were going between the two and it was, it was a toss up.
It was very close.
Yeah.
We ended up with, it's always the quiet ones.
It rolls off the tongue quicker, I think.
Easier.
Yeah.
How do you play someone who just, cause like in some things, like at the start, someone
already is a serial killer, but how do you play someone who discovers they like it and
make that believable?
It's actually a good question.
I found that quite difficult, but it ended up being really necessary, I think, because
we're trying to do female Dexter, right?
We're trying to get the audience to feel conflicted.
The whole first episode is about you relating to this character.
People don't see her.
She has to kind of smile through all of these really shitty things that happen to her.
It's relatable, I hope, and people should be able to relate to her emotions, but not
necessarily her actions.
Don't kill people.
That's the message I would like to spread.
It's sort of, I have to, it's a disclaimer.
I've got to get it in every interview.
Don't kill people.
So it's kind of necessary thing for you to see, follow her journey.
And in the end, you're kind of slightly rooting for her.
You want her to stand up for herself.
Maybe not that way, maybe other ways.
It's fun, isn't it?
Cause like, you know, when stuff like that with Dexter, you know, you're like, well,
obviously, I don't think he should be murdering people.
Obviously.
But a lot of, you know, it's a TV show represents.
And he's murdering bad guys.
Exactly. Exactly. Well, that is interesting because she kind of comes up with this moral code throughout
the show where she's like, right, I've now, you know, I've killed someone, I need to,
I need to kind of justify this.
So she decides, well, okay, good people deserve to live and bad people deserve to die.
She's kind of playing God in this, in this way.
And then that's, that's the progression of the series is that moral code sort of blows
up in her face.
I'll tell you my issue with Dexter briefly while we're on it.
Yes.
I never liked that guy.
Interesting.
I think you're really in the minority there.
I don't like him.
I don't like him.
And not just because of the murders.
Before the show even starts, the opening credits, he eats his breakfast really weirdly.
He flosses weird.
Do you remember the opening credits?
I do. I do. Okay. Welles weird. Do you remember the opening credits? I do, I do.
Okay, well, how's about this for the opening credits?
He cooks some bacon, eats it, then cooks an egg and eats it.
Yeah.
He doesn't have them together.
Who the f-
I just put that down to like fancy editing.
No, but he-
But you're right.
Yeah, he literally eats it.
Yeah.
But what if he thought, oh, I'll have a light breakfast and then he realized I'm still hungry.
Well, yeah.
And he gets up and cooks the rest of it.
He does it with juice as well though.
He never, he doesn't eat it all on the same plate at the same time.
He makes the juice, makes the coffee.
So that immediately I'm going, there's something up with this guy.
And they chose that as the opening credits.
It's not just that they're choosing that to show who this guy is.
Yeah.
It's not just a one off.
He thought, oh, actually, I want more than that.
What does that say about someone?
It says that Joe is a psychopath.
This guy probably kills people.
Yeah.
To be fair, if I was hanging out with someone and they sat down, ate their bacon, got back
up, cooked an egg, sat down, I'd be like, this person kills people.
Yeah.
I've got to go home.
Something's going on here.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Are you much of a foodie?
I do kill people.
Do you?
Am I much of a murderer?
Imagine if this was just a sting for the FBI.
Sorry, I've actually forgotten your original question.
So I was thinking so much about what you did today.
Killing people.
Yeah.
Do you like food like Dexter likes food?
Yeah, but I do cook it mostly all in one go.
I do love food.
I'm a big foodie.
I love food.
That's why I'm so excited about this.
Focus.
But I thought I'd actually get food.
Oh, no way.
Oh, no. A lot of people make that mistake.
No, no, no. We don't give anyone food.
What we do is we make people talk about food until they're really, really hungry.
So you'd be like shaking by the end.
And you always do it like first thing in the morning before anyone's had any breakfast as well.
Perfect. Yeah.
So you are, we're all psyched about it.
But you'll enjoy the meal that you have after this way more than you
would have if you were eating on a podcast.
So we have, we have made your meal for the day better by talking about food
first and then you go and do that.
Blast off all kind of guy.
I see what you're doing.
Well, I'm getting paid.
The rest of the time, God knows.
You couldn't be more wrong.
I'm like, you don't want to talk to me outside of this.
I'll try and like put a positive spin on the podcast while I'm on it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I appreciate that.
Yeah.
When that lights red, I'm a very upbeat guy.
Yeah.
First of all, we'll start with still a sparkling water.
Still.
I have a theory.
So sparkling water, we need to call it something else because it's, it doesn't
taste anything like water.
Sparkling water should taste like, it should taste neutral, just fizzy.
And sparkling water doesn't taste neutral.
It tastes bitter and sour and like something else.
It's like a, it's like a unflavored soda.
I know I've just described sparkling water.
Let me start again.
It's sour.
I hate it.
I really don't like it.
It really bothers me that it's called sparkling water.
It should be called something else.
It should have its own name. We should come up with a name now. Oh wow
Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So for the listeners now 919
Why are you doing time checks like we're on live radio
We're named for Sparkling Water, I want people to know what pressure we're under
Ella was like spouting philosophy earlier
I really was, I came in so hot.
I think you're going to be okay.
Ed and I aren't firing on all cylinders.
We've got to come up with a new name for
Sparkling Water at 9.19 in the morning.
It should sound how it feels.
So sour is a word you've used a few times.
Yes, it's bitter.
Yeah, bitter sour bubbles.
People can't see me but I just made it.
Yeah, I don't know but I just made it.
Yeah. I mean, that'd be, I don't know if I could pronounce that.
Yeah. How do you spell that? Sorry. Yeah. Every time. Do you want still or?
Yeah. Less people would be asking for that.
Yeah. It's also slightly off putting. If the waiter offered me that, I'd look at him and say,
no, thank you.
Yeah. It would remind you of like, oh, that's how it's going to feel actually.
So I'd rather just have the still water.
Yeah.
And still or tap.
Like if you go into places, a tap person.
I don't really care about the difference.
It feels like they're trying to rip you off as well.
It does. They are.
When they say still or sparkling water,
you know there's a third option.
You know.
But no one's saying it. Why do they ever tell you? Yeah, they should say still, sparkling water, tap. They shouldn's a third option, you know, but no one's saying why do they ever tell you?
Yeah, they should say still sparkling water. They shouldn't assume that you know that they have a tap. Yeah, they may not have a tap. That's true
I wouldn't go to a restaurant that didn't have a tap
That would be a real suspicious thing. You wouldn't know. You wouldn't know. How do you know? Yeah, okay
Well, I go in and go first of all, do you have a tap and then I'll eat your food if you got a tap
Hi, can I see a menu and also do you have a tap? Can I see a menu on your tap? Take me back eat your food if you got a tap. Hi, can I see a menu? And also, do you have a tap?
Can I see a menu on your tap?
Take me back there and show me you got a tap.
Otherwise it's weird.
I would like to see the tap.
I think if you are ordering tap water,
it would be good to see the tap.
Are you gonna judge the restaurant
on the cleanliness of their tap?
What if the taps rank?
No, you're right.
Well, there's a massive line scale buildup on that tap.
Oh God, I wouldn't want to eat there.
I wouldn't want the tap water. That's for water. No, then I'd get still. Yeah.
Maybe that's the standard we need to be setting.
You can see what this tap is.
Take me back there and see the tap.
Can you think of like, so if you are having tap water and this is your dream meal, is
there a tap that you've seen in your life that you'd like, that's the tap I would like
it to come from?
Honestly, the first time we've ever asked this.
What? Whoa, that's a great question. I haven't seen that many cool taps in my life.
Come on, come off of it.
What have you seen a lot of cool taps?
Hello, you're a big star.
Yeah.
I am a big star.
Are you telling me, are you telling me they don't have good taps?
Guys, all taps kind of look the same.
Are you joking?
I can't... Come on.
Are you high as a kite?
Do you want a separate hot and cold tap or a mixer tap?
Oh no, I hate when they do it separately.
Yeah.
Because then when I'm trying to wash my face in warm water, it's hot, cold, hot, cold, hot, cold.
It's too stressful.
Yeah, you've got to mix it yourself.
And then I burn with it and then it's too cold and then you end up just doing cold and then you're cold.
And it's a very stressful experience. I don't want to have to hold my hand separately
and then mix them together. Trying to mix hot and cold water in a bowl hand is really uncomfortable.
I clearly have a lot of, I didn't realize that, so I was feeling about taps.
Yeah, I see.
But no, that really does bother me actually.
You are being surprised in this podcast, but by your own opinions.
I didn't know I had so many.
Yeah. Wow. Thank had so many. Yeah.
Wow.
Thank you so much.
So you would like a mixer tap.
I like a mixer tap.
But for a drink, surely you don't want a mixer tap.
Oh no.
Right, Joanne, honestly, that's unfair of you.
Because you led Ella down this path of choosing the mixer tap and now you've gone fucking got
me.
I feel tricked.
You have tricked me.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's a gotcha interview. Sorry, yeah, like you've been gotchaed.
When it's one tap, you just turn the cold bit on.
I wouldn't turn the hot and the cold if I was drinking water.
No one wants to drink warm water.
Does anybody want to drink warm water?
I bet there are people. Some people will have a mug of warm water in the morning with like a slice of lemon in it.
Oh yeah, yeah.
Okay.
Pop it up and throw it in bread! Pop it up some bread, Ella Pernell! Pop it up some bread!
Bread, please. Bread, please. Can I get specific?
Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
With butter? My little butter?
Of course.
Okay, Marmite butter.
Oh, yeah. Yeah, you are definitely a little bit.
Oh, fantastic. I love this restaurant. It's great. Yeah.
I love Marmite and I love butter and I like them together. Mix them together.
Have you had Marmite butter?
I have. There's a place in Wales called, I'm going to say Heaney's or Healy's, Heaney's,
Stephanie and Anne, Heaney's, uh, and they do Marmite butter with sourdough and it's unbelievable.
I actually once asked them for three, uh, extra bits of Marmite butter and I put them in a to-go
box and they, I don't know why they looked at me like that was unusual. Cause I feel like a lot of people must do that.
They're known for their Marmite Butter.
Yeah.
And he looked at me like I offended his ancestors
or like I'd done something deeply, deeply wrong.
Maybe they're used to people enjoying the Marmite Butter,
but they're not used to people being like,
packaged them up like they were doing shopping.
I feel like, yeah, fair, but also,
fair but also not fair because-
Right, they should be complimented.
You're gonna be known for it.'re going to be known for it.
You should really be known for it.
It's not like you can get it anywhere else.
It's not like you're like, oh, that was great.
I'll get some Marmite butter on the way home.
It's not like I could just go home and make it myself and mix a bit of Marmite and butter together.
It would be ridiculous.
You can't do that.
I could never do that.
You wouldn't get the ratios right.
It wouldn't be right.
It wouldn't be right.
And is it sourdough you're having?
I think you could do that.
Yeah, I think so.
What? I think you could give that a go.
No, you couldn't.
No?
You could.
I'm sensing some tension here, guys.
Are we all right?
Well, I've had enough of it.
Should we take a quick break?
I've had enough of it.
It's been so many episodes of this.
How many episodes have you done?
Too many.
Too many.
Too many.
He doesn't know.
James doesn't know.
He's got no idea. Over 200. Over 200. Over 200. This contrarian bastard.
I'm just saying I think you could mix Marmite and butter together.
No, I think you could. I think you could.
It wouldn't be the same experience, sure, but maybe they put something extra in there.
What if it is? What if it is?
That's the end of their business, I guess.
Sorry. I really do like them. I'm so, so sorry.
Well, no. Just dragged them through the mud.
Shouldn't have looked at you like that. Warm sourdough.
Yeah.
With the, with the Marmite butter from Haney's.
Yeah. And then you just, you don't spread it with a knife. You just, you take the bread
and you use the bread as a edible spoon and you just dip it. And also you get in there
fast before anyone else can
have any. I've got three younger brothers so I learned to eat very quickly and a lot.
So it's embarrassing when I go out for dinner with people because they don't get to eat
because I've eaten it all for them.
Because you're just always aware that someone else could have it first.
Yeah, I've got elbows up. Elbows up. Ready to throw hands.
It's like your brothers are there all the time.
They are there all the time.
All the time. It's really hard.
People having dinner with you going, oh, there's three boys standing behind you.
For the listeners, there are three boys in the studio now.
It's 9.26.
And Ella's got three boys standing behind her.
Your dream starter. Your dream starter.
My dream starter.
I'm gonna go for soup dumplings,
because I love them,
but specifically from a place in New York called
Joe's Shanghai.
And there's a very specific way you have to eat them,
as instructed by me, and I get to watch you eat them.
We're eating together.
I'm not eating alone.
It's just part of the soup dumpling experience is the eating of
the soup dumplings.
Yeah. Yes. I would say, I would say that goes for all food.
That may actually be accurate. Yeah. No, now, now who's being profound. Now you're self-aware.
Look at us all just slowly achieving enlightenment. Look at that. What an attitude. Gorgeous.
Sorry. No, don't be sorry. Yeah. You're right. It an attitude. Gorgeous. Sorry. No, don't
be sorry. Yeah. You're right. It's true. Part of the experience of the food is eating the
food. Yes, I suppose so. Just fucking destroy it. No, but specifically with this, it's an
interactive experience. I do know what you mean. I was being facetious. I know I do agree
with you. I have a lot. I care a lot about mouth feel of a food. Yeah. It can't be too
squishy or too crunchy.
It has to be the perfect mouthfeel.
But this is not so much about,
I'd actually say the mouthfeel of a soup dumpling
is quite bad, but the experience of watching someone eat it
and the sound effects, it's just very good.
It's all very good.
Take us through the technique.
How do you want people to eat it?
You have to bite the tip off
and then drink the soup out the dumpling out the spoon.
I did not expect this.
And then, yeah.
No, no, this isn't dumplings in soup.
This is soup in dumplings.
Yes, I know it's soup in dumplings, but I thought, so here's me with a soup dumpling.
Right.
Just pop it in.
No.
Pop it in whole.
Wrong.
Let it pop.
Let the soup flow over my tongue.
Burn your mouth.
Huh?
Burn your mouth. No, no, no. That's the thing tongue. Burn your mouth. Huh?
Burn your mouth.
That's the thing.
You burn your mouth.
You don't have feeling in your mouth then.
Huh?
You have feeling.
It's not the first time he's been accused of this.
You don't have feeling in your mouth.
Yeah, yeah.
It's not the first time.
Every time.
Here's my girlfriend.
She does that to me.
You have no feeling in your mouth.
Get out of my sight.
I have feeling in my mouth.
Although once, and then I went for a meal and everything was like Szechuan pepper stuff.
So it numbed up your tongue and then we had soup dumplings and it goes over the tongue.
So I guess on that occasion I didn't have feeling in my mouth.
But it was pretty great.
I'm going to try that.
That's really inspired me.
I do completely agree with you. That's
how I ate soup dumplings. Yes. Bite a little bit off. So there's a hole so some steam can come out
so it cools down and then you drink some of the soup. Correct. You get a taste of the soup and then
the dumpling. Correct. It's like a two course meal. How do you do? You bite the top or the side? I think I bite the top. Right.
Because I don't want it spilling out the side. The nipple. Yeah, the nipple. I bite the nipple. But if you put it on the soup, you put it on the spoon and then bite the nipple and then you
drink the soup. And then you eat the, I mean, I guess if we're extending the analogy, no, okay.
But we found the line. Yeah. Yeah. yeah. We found it. I checked with James and no. Yeah, it's made eye contact with me.
That was enough.
I don't like that.
Talking about HR after this.
Do you have an HR department?
Yeah, called Benito.
Benito, U, HR.
Benito and he does not listen.
You seem busy.
He doesn't give a shit.
He didn't care.
We would go and slack each other off to him and he just ignores us both.
Therapist as well then.
Therapist, HR.
But bad at all of it.
Busy, aren't you Ben?
Very busy. Theist as well then. Therapist, HR.
Yeah, but bad at all of it.
Busy, aren't you?
Bad at all of it.
Very busy.
The worst in the biz.
I can't imagine what you're talking about with this soup dumpling. I can't imagine
how you're making it work because to me, it's so wobbly that you couldn't tip it and have a drink
out of it because it would just
all splat all over you.
And that's part of the experience is that if you bite the nipple and not the side, chances
are you're going to spill it because you've got to tip your head back so far because of
gravity.
So you're biting the side?
You're biting the side?
Well, it depends.
It depends on how it's made because I had one quite recently by recent name in yesterday
No, no, what day is it two days ago and I bit the top and it was too much. What is it? Dough?
Yeah, yeah, what is it made of?
Yeah, dough I guess.
What is it made of? It's like I've never spoken English before.
What is made of?
What is dumpling?
Yeah, I know because that's where they pinch at the top when they make it so there's a bit more dough.
Yeah, so sometimes it's too thick. Yeah, I know, because that's where they pinch at the top when they make it, so there's a bit more dough. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So it depends on the dumpling, but if you do that and you tilt it back, it does spill
down you and that's the soup dumpling experience.
But if it's on the spoon, you're catching some of the soup in the spoon anyway, aren't
you?
So it depends how big the spoon is.
Yeah, and how big the dumpling is.
And how big the dumpling is.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Have you seen the ones that are massive that come with a straw stuck in them?
What?
What?
I don't know where they do them, but I've seen them. It's a bit Instagram-y, but they do like huge ones, stick a straw
in it and then you drink the soup out with the straw. That's a game changer. My mind
is blown. That's disgusting. I don't think that tastes as nice as these little ones.
No, because then you're basically just having a bowl of soup and then at the end you get
like a bunch of pasta or whatever. I do see kind of what you mean actually.
But it's not actually eating a soup dumpling is it?
It's like, well what's the dumpling?
It's dumpling.
And they said bread earlier, you left that alone.
No, I see so, I see so and then we're back to the Dexter thing
because with the soup, the regular soup dumpling experience,
you're doing soup, dumpling, soup, dumpling, soup, dumpling, soup.
With this one it's soup, soup, soup, soup, soup, soup, soup, big dumpling.
Yeah.
And it's, it's not quite the same, but I mean, how big is the dumpling? It's quite
like, yeah, like big. Right. It's like when you see the like clam chowder in a bread bowl,
you know, it's like that. It's not for me. Cause then with the clam chowder, you're just left with
so much bread afterwards. Wet bread. Yeah. Wet bread. Yeah. No, I'm one for that. No, I like my bread dry.
Bread afterwards. Wet bread.
Yeah, wet bread.
Yeah, no one wants that.
No, I like my bread dry.
With my butter on it.
Oh, yeah, buttery.
Yeah.
That count as wet.
Was that oily?
Yeah, that's not wet.
I'll be clear that one up.
Yeah.
Yeah.
What kind of soup is in the soup dumpling?
Chicken, pork.
I don't eat fish.
So I never really go for like the shrimpy,
prawny ones.
Not for me. Yeah. Normally pork, right? Pork. the shrimpy, porny ones. Not for me.
Yeah. Normally pork, right?
Pork.
Pork, yeah, like pork broth.
Pork, yeah.
Pork broth, soup dumplings is what you would like.
Pork broth soup dumplings.
And you would like to watch us eat them as well.
Mostly, yeah.
It is part of these things.
I don't eat them on my own very often.
I really just like introducing people to the experience.
It's really fun.
I love a game.
I love an interactive food experience. I love watching people spill on themselves. I think it's hilarious.
Interesting. Are you, are you dipping the dumplings in anything like the vinegar soy
mix with chili oil or anything?
Yeah, I won't really dip it, but I will because you know, when they get stuck together, the
soup dumplings, then they rip and then the soup falls out and then you've just got a
dumpling, you haven't got the soup part that's gone. So I like to take, take the vinegar,
smush it around, break the dumplings up and then so that it's, it's all, I mean, you know, it soup part's gone. So I like to take the vinegar, smoosh it around, break the dumplings up, and then so that it's all, you know,
it's all mixed up. But when you break the dumplings up, you're being very
careful to not rip them. Very, very, very careful. It's like surgery. It's like operations on that game.
Yeah, that's another game. I love a game.
Can you love a game? I do love a game. Famously. Famously, as of right now, I love a game.
What's your favorite game? Very good very good question. Very good. Top three.
Twister. I really do love a game.
Twister, guess who?
But you have to ask the character traits.
You can't, you know, ask them what they look like.
It's got to be like, is your character having a brat summer?
It's got to be like that.
Yeah.
Number three. Oh, that's a tough one.
There's one called, watch your mouth.
And you put this bit of plastic in your mouth
and it holds your mouth and heart like this.
Yeah.
And then you have to say things.
Sorry, I'm just realizing you can't see me.
I am being perceived.
I am indeed real and alive.
And you have to say things to be able to guess what you're saying.
And those are my top three.
Obviously those first two, Twister and Guess Who, they're classics.
How did you discover what's your mouth?
People buy me games as gifts quite often.
I get quite a lot of gifts, don't mean to brag.
And I got given it.
And then we played it after having a couple of drinks.
It was really good.
Have you ever combined watch your mouth with guess who?
Or Twister.
Or Twister at the same time.
Wait, no, but that's kind of, how have I not thought of this?
This is so smart.
It could be really good with Twister, right?
Because you're saying left hand on green,
you're actually saying, ah, yeah, and you don't know,
you don't know what they've said,
so you've got to guess.
Yeah.
Who's having a back cover?
Yeah.
Exactly.
Yeah.
No one ever wins on guess who?
Because it's too hard, but it's really funny.
So about again, it's about the experience.
It's not one winner.
The way that you play it, no one ever wins.
When I play it, I never win, is what I mean.
Like that.
Okay.
So we play a quick game of guess who now, with the just, I'm just. It's what I mean. Like that. Okay. So you play a quick game of guess who now with the just,
I'm just thinking of one of these two.
I feel.
But you got to play like your rules.
You asked me.
Hmm. I really don't want to.
Go on.
I can't.
Just go for it.
Cause my question is always really mean.
I just, I can't do that to Ben.
It's okay.
I like, so it's Ben.
It's you.
So we're going for Ben, are we?
Well, you can't just ask me me is it Ben or is it Ed?
Hang on. Why can't you do that to Ben, but you don't mind doing it to me?
Well you've already been...
Is it because you can think of mean things for Ben, but not for me, or is it because you absolutely don't mind tearing me apart?
Can it be both? They don't seem mutually exclusive.
Yeah, they're not mutually exclusive. Yeah, you've been sitting there being like, do you want a mixer tap?
I hope you have that, you're a fucking idiot. So you deserve everything you get. Yeah, that've been sitting there being like, do you want to mix or tap? So you deserve everything you get.
Yeah, that's fair.
Would you eat soup dumpling with the, with the, what's your mouth thing in?
How would you manage that?
How are you coming up with these?
How are you doing it?
This is why I can't leave the podcast.
He's the best in the biz.
Truly.
You're blowing my mind.
Um, no, you could physically not, I think.
I don't think you could swallow.
Can you swallow with your mouth open?
God, that was, uh, I think. I don't think you could swallow. Can you swallow with your mouth open? God, that was...
I think some people can.
I saw it on Taskmaster.
I just did it.
Is that what you were doing when you took your sip of...
Benito looks disgusted.
On Taskmaster, Benito, there was a task
on Tetsuhei Burt's series,
because she's the one who can do it.
That was insane.
You did it again.
Yeah, I did it again.
I just wanted to check it wasn't luck. For the listener,
edge is sat on his chair drinking water like a swan. It looks like a turtle that can't
get back in its shell. But it's really trying. Yeah, that's good. That's a good clue for
me on guess who? Who looks like a turtle trying to get back into his shell. Yes, it's Ed Gamble.
Yes. Very good. You get that a lot. Yeah. Yes, it's a gamble. Yes. Very good.
Do you get that a lot?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm so sorry.
It's all right.
It's a good vibe.
Just so you know, we're going to carry on with the menu,
but the game of guess who is still open.
I am thinking of one of these two.
OK, I'm going to think of one of these two.
And if at any point you want to ask me a question about it,
you can.
Dream main course. We've got the soup dumplings for the starter. Great starter by the way. Yeah. Oh, thank you. Really. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you. I really, I really appreciate that. Okay.
I've got a good one. Have you ever seen spy kids? That's the first time anyone's got into
Okay. I've got a good one. Have you ever seen Spike? I haven't. I know what film you're
talking about. I know Spike is the film. I probably have seen Spike kids, but I don't
remember any of the food in Spike kids.
Okay. Well, there's not much. Actually, that's not true because apparently I found this out
recently. The entire film, I think is sponsored by McDonald's. Don't know how that happened.
Great collab. Anyway, there's a scene where they're at the safe house.
How many times have you seen Spies? You're a big Spy Kids fan.
So you and your three brothers watched it a lot growing up?
Yeah, I know I did.
I watched it a lot on my own.
I spent a lot of time alone as a child, as you can probably tell.
And I watched a lot of Spy Kids.
I really loved Spies.
I sort of have a very weird obsession with Spies.
They're cool.
Spies are cool.
Spies are objectively cool. No one's like that spy's a nerd. Because
even being a nerd spy is still cool. Because you can't trust that they're a nerd either.
Because there's probably a spy thing. Exactly. Anyway, I'm quite obsessed with like, you
know, when you see, you know, it's like in older movies, like when they do gadgets and
they've got like, you know, phones or make believe like things that they've just invented
for the film and they're always really naff, but kind of amazing. You really
want one. So they've got this sort of microwave. It's called a rehydrating machine and one
at the female spy, the female child spy. Carmen is her name. I've just remembered that. She
goes like a little packet. She's like, look, we're going to rehydrate this. Can you tell
I'm an actress? That was an incredible reaction. You just got the part in spikings too. That was amazing. There's so much feeling when it's
done. There's already a spike. She said, look, we found this packet, we're going to rehydrate it.
And she puts it in the microwave. No, sorry, rehydrating machine. And it's the most gorgeous
looking burger you've ever seen in your life. It's like a burger on steroids. It's massive.
First of all, it must be a fake burger. It must be made of marzipan or something.
It can't be a real burger. There's no way. A marzipan burger? It's gorgeous. I need to find a picture of this.
It just looks incredible and I'm not a burger person. We need to Google Spikin's burger.
Google, yeah. Spikin's burger, rehydrating Carmen. Thank you. Rehydrating machine.
Rehydrating machine. Rehydrating in a way. And if you can't find an image of it, go on videos.
Surely someone's clipped it up. It just looks so good. Download Spy Kids. I'm sure it tastes amazing.
I think about it a lot. It's that added technology element that's kind of cool as well because you're like imagine if that thing existed then you could just have that burger.
Not even talking about it don't you when they come out with all these gadgets and they're just so silly and they would never work in real life but you're like imagine if it did. Yeah. So cool. I think in maybe in Red Dwarf, there's a machine where they just put in whatever they want
and it just, it makes it straight away.
That's the dream.
Yeah.
In Spy Kids, he's got a pair of glasses.
Sorry to get you off Spy Kids.
Absolutely.
Yeah, Spy Kids.
He's got a pair of glasses and it comes out with like all of these different lenses.
It goes like da da da da da da da.
And it's like, he's got like 12 lenses that come out of this one monocle.
Yeah. And on a nine year old boy, that's, it's hilarious and brilliant. And da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da
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Ben, you're doing me dirty here, come on, help me out. Okay, so we're watching the clip. See,
that's the rehydrating thing. She's putting the packet in. Look how cool this tech is.
The screen's gone over, that's pretty cool. It looks like a tumble dryer. A little tumble dryer.
That's a normal size burger, has just come out.
When you're a kid.
A very normal looking.
Wait, it does look so normal.
It looks like a, that is a.
Ella, Ella, I'm going to say it's a Big Mac.
That's a Big Mac.
I mean, you told us it was sponsored by McDonald's.
That is just quite a nice looking Big Mac.
You know what guys, you are right.
But what I'm going to say is.
I'm quite disappointed.
It looked so much.
In your memory, it's amazing.
In my memory, it was like, I would like, I would rewind it and rewind it and say,
mum, please can I have a burger? Mum, please, please, please.
And it's amazing. And now I've kind of ruined my challenge.
Well, we didn't know that that was going to happen just then.
We thought your description of it sounded so good.
I really thought you guys were going to be like, wow, the burger!
But the concept of the machine is amazing.
I don't want a Big Mac for my...
No, but you can have the burger from your memory.
From your memory.
Right. Yes. Okay.
Can I have the burger that only I can remember?
Yes.
Just close your eyes and imagine.
You're like, do I trust you?
And imagine the best burger you've...
Yeah, I can imagine.
...possibly imagined.
That's what it was in my head.
Well, going to the Red lion when I was a kid
Yeah, well them you know that and having the burgers there my memory of them is that they were as big as my head
Yeah, and they were amazing and everything was like like the cheese was really thick and I know I the one that had a fried
Egg on it as well didn't eat it separately like Dexter had it on on the burger and
Like I had to eat it with a knife and fork like a big pie. It was so big. I'm sure that if
I went back in time and saw it, it would just be a normal burger.
Well it's all relative because you were smaller, weren't you? So it probably, you probably
did need a knife and fork. Your head's big enough.
My head's grown, but like. I didn't want to say it.
Thank you. It'd be scary if it had. It would be scary if it had, if that was his. It would be really scary. If I had this head as a kid, yeah, yeah, yeah, that would have been scary.
But I didn't.
Yeah.
Also, I feel like food just never ended when you were a child.
You know, when your mom's like, you've got to finish your plate.
It's like, it just, it just keeps going.
It never ends.
Never happened to me.
Really?
Yeah.
I was a big fat kid.
Were you?
I used to finish everything.
Okay. Seconds, seconds all the way. Seconds. Yeah, yeah was a big fat kid. Were you? I finish everything. Okay.
Seconds, seconds all the way.
Seconds.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Seconds, thirds.
Everything, no food you didn't like?
No, not really.
I tried to tell everyone I didn't like tomatoes once because I felt like I shouldn't like
something.
I felt weird that all my friends all had things they hated, so I was like...
Were you secretly eating them in your bedroom?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Did you really miss them?
Absolutely loved them. Huge bowls of tomatoes. Yeah. But no, I loved it. I love tomatoes, but I was like, I don't like tomatoes guys. I'm cool too.
Right, right, right. No ketchup though? That's tough. Tomatoes. You've gone for one that's kind
of like, I mean, no bolognese, no, no, you know, tomato pasta. I think raw tomatoes. I was saying
that I didn't like. Okay, fine, fine, fine. I did, I did like them. You did like them.
Well, you've just been outed. You've outed yourself. fine. I did, I did like them. You did like them. Yeah. You did like them.
Well, you've just been outed, you've outed yourself.
Yeah, oh no, I'm out and about now.
Oh, you're out and about.
Yeah, yeah.
Still eating tomatoes in your bedroom.
Everyone that you went to school with
doesn't know you were lying at the time.
So they listen to this,
but I can't believe Gamble was lying about.
Yeah.
We all believe that he didn't like tomatoes
before he was interested.
Changing a lot of lives right now.
This is a big moment.
Huge, this is a podcast exclusive.
You would like the burger that from your memory from Spy Kids.
Yeah, I guess so.
I'm disappointed in my option now.
From your falsely remembered version of Spy Kids is the burger that you would like for
your dream main course.
Spy Kids memory burger.
Yeah, fine.
I'm coming.
I'm locked in.
Yeah.
Yeah. I'm going to stand by it. Yeah. I'm owning it. Yeah. Even though it was a
bit disappointing. Are there chips in your memory as well? They are eating the chips
in your memory. It was like just a plate with a massive burger. Yeah. It's so disappointing
guys. I mean, my heart hurts. I do encourage everyone listening to this to watch the video because it's very funny when you see how normal the burger is. Well and how much it's clearly
a Big Mac and fries. But I wonder how many people can relate to what I'm saying because I think a
lot of people think that burger was amazing. Spy Kids was huge. Well the Spy Kids kids,
we're not doubting that Spy Kids was huge, we've never once disputed the spy kids was huge they got
like what two sequels it was huge but like even the spy kids kids in that clip don't
seem fussed about that burger they get it right and then they're doing something else
while eating it they're not even like arguably disappointed they don't care they're like
this is a normal burger we know it it's just normal. Yeah, fine.
But that's nice that in your head it's great and that's what you're getting for your meals. That's
why I'm getting because it is off menu isn't it? I get to choose whatever I want. Yeah.
So it's your memory of this Viking burger. I love that it's a game now.
Everything's a game. Everything's a game if you're competitive enough. Yes. Yeah.
if you're competitive enough. Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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your dream side dish. Side hard because I and then you feel a bit weighed down and you think a salad is going to undo that damage. Because it's like cold and refreshing and green. It's like a bright colour. And it never
does that. It's always disappointing. So not a salad, but I thought I wanted you to know
that I went there.
You like the idea of a salad.
I would like to eat the concept of a salad, but not the actual salad.
Hey, well look, your main spike is memory burger.
Spike is memory burger.
The concept of a salad would be an appropriate side.
Yeah, it would absolutely suit it.
But I'm happy to whittle this down one dish at a time
until we get to your side.
No, no, no, we don't have to do that.
Let's just go through all the food.
So salads, salads are out.
No, I would like it to be really cheap prawn crackers.
Like the ones from like, I want them to be like 60p,
outward packet from Tesco's or Niddle and they're greasy.
And that's why it'sl and they're greasy.
And that's why it's good. It's nice.
When I get crisps from the shop,
I'll always look for the prawn crackers first.
Right.
Which is funny, because I don't eat fish.
You don't eat them.
Prawn crackers I don't think have any traces
of actual prawn in them.
No.
Do you think they do?
Yeah.
I don't think they do.
I'm pretty sure they're probably vegan or something.
They don't taste fishy though.
No, they don't. Yeah. They're crispy. They're greasy. It's just... Prawn cocktail.
Prawn cocktail crisps have no... They're mainly just tomato ketchup flavor. Yeah. I don't think
they have any actual prawn in them, but prawn crackers, I think, are like made of prawns. Yeah.
Ben, can we... Raise his eyeballs and nod his head while looking at his screen. They're vegan, aren't
they? Yes. Prawn crackers contain prawns. That's what AI overview has said.
What does AI know?
What does the internet know?
Well, maybe I do like fish then, but just in cheap prawn cracker flavours.
From the supermarket, you want supermarket prawn crackers rather than like…
Yeah, I just want like really shit ones.
I don't like them when they're fancy and come from a nice restaurant.
It's not the same.
I want them to kind of like be really greasy. I don't like them when they're fancy and come from a nice restaurant. They don't, it's not the same.
I want them to kind of like be really greasy. I want them to make my fingers feel bad after I've eaten them.
Yeah.
Your fingers have to feel bad.
Yeah.
Like you've got to wash your hands after.
Yeah.
Which I suppose you should probably always do, but I don't very often.
Mixer tap, washing your hands under the mixer tap.
Yeah.
Hot cod, hot cod, hot, like that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You like to do it like that.
Yeah.
I've got to make the sound effects too when I do it.
Yeah, you've got to say hot cod, hot cod.
So these are like the white prawn crackers,
not like the Thai prawn crackers,
where it's like they're a bit brown.
No, it's too nice.
You want the bog standard prawn crackers.
Yeah, that is a bit like polystyrene.
Yeah, yeah, I know.
But less squeaky.
Yeah.
Then I imagine eating a bit of polystyrene would be,
never done it. Neither have I, but do you know what? Fuck that. Yeah. Then I imagine eating a bit of polystyrene would be never done it.
Neither have I, but you know what? Fuck that. Yeah. Imagine I got it and I was like my purpose
I don't care who I offend. Polystyrene. I hate polystyrene man. Do you? Yeah, I hate it.
I don't see the point. What? What do you mean you don't see the point? Polystyrene. Yeah, but what's the what
we can surely come up with something better by now that's not squeaky and makes me feel weird
when I touch it. Oh, it makes you feel weird when you touch it.
Yeah.
And the idea of my worst thing is imagining someone soaring through some polystyrene.
That is bad.
That is bad, isn't it?
Oh no, I don't like that.
I've done it before.
What?
I've soared through a massive block of polystyrene with a saw.
Why?
I had to get a giant polystyrene W into a car boot and I couldn't, so I had to saw it
into two V's.
So what are you talking about? I've got questions.
Yeah.
I was collecting giant yellow polystyrene W's at the time. I was going through a phase.
Come on, come on.
How many did you have?
I think we got like five or six in the end. I can't remember exactly how many but like yeah,
we got a fair few.
So when you saw it, you stick it back together again on the other side?
We actually didn't end up sticking it back together again.
It was just knocked around in my friend's sister's garage for a few years.
I don't know if it's even there still.
I bet they were thrilled, that friend.
Yeah, yeah. She ended up with, yeah, the one that was in half and another one, that sister.
So like she had those.
You need to find someone that collects polystyrene Vs.
Vs, yeah.
And donate.
Then they would be delighted.
Yeah. God, that would be the greatest collab of all time.
Make that person's day.
Now, Ben seems like he has more questions.
Well, you can't ask, you can't talk.
Ella said she had questions and then didn't ask any of the questions
that I thought you were going to ask.
I asked loads of questions.
Just the ones that you wanted.
But why?
Because they're your questions.
Yeah.
My question, I've asked my questions like very much.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I've cleared it up.
What are your questions?
Why, why?
Why? Why is my main question.
Why? Why were you collecting polystyrene Ws?
Oh right, that is the obvious question. Yeah, of course.
I was in a band called The Wow Scenario.
Oh right, oh it does make sense.
Someone told us, hey, I know someone who's got a giant polystyrene W,
you can have it on stage when you do your gigs.
So went to pick it up and then we went to get it and it was like huge.
And we had to like try and put it on the roof of the car.
But it was like going to fly off and it was very...
And then I bought it home.
It was quite light, it was quite light. It would have just flown in the air.
Well, that's what we were worried about on the dual carriageway.
If it flies off, you know, the roof and then like takes someone out.
But we got it home and my dad was like, that's not coming in the house.
It's no, you got no choice.
They're saying this old man, we're having to do this.
And then we talked to a guy, local photographer, and we're like,
here's an idea for our photo shoot.
We're going to do with you got this giant little W and bring it along to your studio.
And he went, I've already got one. I don't need it. We're like, what are you talking about?
You've already got one.
And he showed us a picture.
We're like, that's identical to our one.
And he was like, yeah, well, this connections
that I've got them in their windows,
they've got this whole thing for people leaving school
about what next is this whole campaign they're doing.
They've all been given these giant LOWs.
They all hate them.
They don't want them in their shops.
They're taking up too much room.
So they just gave me one for free.
They all just want rid of them. So then at the them in their shops. They're taking up too much room. So they just gave me one for free.
They all just want rid of them.
So then at the time, me and my friend were like, let's get loads and fill the whole stage
of them.
And we'll do that.
How many did you need though?
Cause you're called the wow scenario.
I mean, it's unbelievable that you've managed to acquire five of these.
Yeah, we got quite a few of them.
And then, um, and then we kind of ran out of steam and just forgot about it.
The band broke up.
The band broke up. The band broke up.
And then like, my friend Ben, who like kept at least one of them for us in his garage,
moved house and forgot about it.
So the people who came in after him would have opened that garage door and been like,
what the hell, who's this guy?
I mean, look, there's worse letters to collect, isn't there?
I feel like W, out of all the letters, is probably the most versatile.
Well, you know what I'm going to ask?
What is the worst letter that you could collect?
Well, an S can only be two C's.
A W can be an I, an N, a Z or two V's.
An R is pretty shit.
An R could be an I, could be two I's or an L, I suppose.
A W could be an L as well.
An I, an I is probably, well, no, there's gotta be others.
Come on, B, B, what can B be?
Two C's, I suppose.
A, sorry, this is my podcast now.
We're going to clip this up. This is the rantings of a madman. Like I've never had a guest do
such an, a model, an intellectual model like this. I'm so insane. Go through all the letters
and what they could be if you chopped them up. And not in order.
Not in order, just all over the place.
And just for the listener, we haven't sped it up.
That is the speed that Ella was talking at.
That was amazing.
I'm so, so sorry.
I got kind of excited.
But it's interesting.
All the letters could be chopped up to be other letters.
Yeah.
It is interesting.
That's why I got so excited because I've never thought of it before. C is, I think C is the worst. C is the worst. That's very smart. C is interesting. That's why I got so excited because I've never thought of it. Yeah. C is, I think C is the worst. C is the worst. C is, that's very smart. C is good.
Yeah, C can't be anything else. Yeah. C is terrible. No. C can't be anything.
Yeah. C is the worst one. C is useless. Yeah. Sorry.
And that'd be the worst one. Like if I was taking that, like on top of the car. Yeah.
If that blows away, it'll boom around back to you.
You're in big trouble.
This is my favourite conversation I've ever had.
I'm going to be thinking about this for such a long time.
Most guests come on here and say that.
Do they?
This is the best conversation I've ever had.
Do they?
But do they talk about chopping up letters?
No, they don't.
Oh, listen, you're the best guest.
No, they don't.
Thank you so much.
No question.
Did we get the dream side?
Hold on.
It's really, really warm.
Do we know what your dream side was?
My dream side?
Yeah, prawn crackers.
Oh, it's prawn crackers.
Of course it was.
That's how we got to it.
All the concept of a salad.
All the concept of a salad.
We can give you both.
Am I allowed to?
Yeah.
Yeah.
So it's the weirdest meal.
If one of them is a concept, you're allowed to.
Okay, fine.
Yes.
If one of them is a memory.
Yeah. I'm going to be very hungry when I see memories and concepts. I'm not sure you've had to eat any food yet. Yes. You're one of them's a memory. Yeah. I'm gonna be very hungry.
I'm not sure you've actually had any food yet. I've had water. You're not doing much to like
dispel the stereotype of actresses. Most bits of magic, I just want the concept of salad.
The starter, I just want to watch other people eat. Yeah. That is the most Hollywood shit I've ever heard. I like the concept of food.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Your dream drink?
Diet Coke.
I almost don't want to ask any questions.
It's just a very funny delivery.
Diet Coke.
So why is that your favorite drink?
That is such a boring one.
How many people come in here and say diet Coke?
But it's true. Diet Coke is great. It is. favorite drink? How many people come in here and say diet coke, but it's true.
Diet Coke's great.
It is. It's the cure for all ailments.
I can't even say it. But it is the cure for hangover and nausea.
When have you been the most nauseous? What has made you the most nauseous?
Very weird question. What's made you the most nauseous?
It's pretty weird. Okay. What has made me the most nauseous? That's a very weird question. What's made you the most nauseous? It's pretty weird. I like it.
Yeah.
What has made me the most nauseous?
Food poisoning.
Oh, I've got a great story.
I won't tell it.
Go on.
Well, you've got to tell it.
You can't do that.
You can't go on a podcast and say, oh, I've got a great story.
It's a really good one.
It's kind of food related bits.
It's kind of gross.
Yeah.
We had a lot of ghost stories on this.
It involves me outing a chain, which I don't know how you feel about that.
I don't know if you'll be sponsored by them.
I don't think.
No, we're not sponsored by nothing.
Go for it. By nothing. We are, James. We record loads of adverts all the time. I thought this was me and you feel about that. I don't want to be sponsored by them. No, we're not sponsored by nothing. Go for it. By nothing. We are, James.
Huh?
We record loads of adverts all the time.
I thought it was just me and you having a chat.
And if it's one of our sponsors, we'll bleep it.
Okay.
Yeah, bleep the whole story.
Okay, so I went on a date once.
Oh, this is really bad. I can't be done telling the story.
I went on a date once with this really fit guy.
He was a model, gorgeous.
Shout out to that guy.
So hot. It's unbelievable.
Do you want to shout him out? No, no, thank you. He's going to listen to this and he's going to be thrilled. Shout out to that guy. So hot, unbelievable. Do you want to shout him out?
No, no thank you.
He's going to listen to this and he's going to be thrilled.
Maybe he won't.
Buddy, if you're listening, we hope you're having a good day.
No fit guys listen to this.
Yeah, that's disappointing.
He's Australian.
I've got to get to the end of the story.
I'm so bad at this.
No, no, keep describing this guy.
Okay, he's Australian.
He doesn't know London very well.
He comes to London and we meet up and I can't believe my luck. And so I take him to...
I've never heard anyone so excited about a date.
Yeah.
Actually, especially not...
I can't believe this.
It's rare you hear a woman say that.
I can't believe it.
I can't believe my luck.
This guy's so fit.
I'm excited about the concept of a date, okay?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Guys, I'm cool.
I'm playing it cool.
I think it's very nice.
Yeah, look at me.
I'm playing it cool.
In hindsight, did not play it cool. I'm playing it cool. I think it's very nice. In hindsight, did not play it cool.
Took him to a Mexican chain restaurant that I loved.
Back in the day, this was a while ago, about 10 years ago,
was quite cool, quite trendy.
Don't know if it is anymore, but it was back then.
Took him there, had a great time.
Had a little snog at the end.
A lot of food, good chaps.
Did you snog him in and say, I can't believe my luck?
I can't believe, you know, it was sort of like hyperventilating and crying at the same
time.
Very cool.
Yeah, but like that really high pitched.
Yeah.
When you snogged, did you have the stuff in your mouth from that game you played?
Yeah, I was doing it with what's your mouth.
What's your mouth?
You put that in. I can't believe. Like it with what's your mouth. What's your mouth? You put that in.
I can't believe like that.
It's like that.
It's fantastic.
God, I sound so cool in this story.
It's a cool story.
We know it's leading up to you shitting yourself.
So, yeah.
You just ruined the punchline.
Do you like doing that?
Do you like taking people's joy away?
Yeah.
Do you like doing that?
Well, everyone knows that's what's fun about it.
Unbelievable.
I really thought, right, yeah, there's long story short is the next day was Halloween. Do you like doing that? Well everyone knows that's what's fun about it. Unbelievable.
I really thought, right, yeah, there's long story short is the next day was Halloween.
I invited him to a party.
So I don't know why that's made me laugh so much.
Long story short, it was Halloween.
The next day was Halloween.
You invited him to a party, so it's like two days in a row you've seen the...
Oh yeah, yeah. He was only in town for a short amount of time.
Yeah.
He goes to the party, I was very, you know,
Halloweeny, very hot.
I looked very hot.
I'm gonna say it, guys.
I really dressed up.
He can't believe his luck.
He's saying, I can't believe my luck.
What was the hunk dressed as for Halloween?
Batman or something, I can't remember.
Come on, it was the hunk.
You can remember what he was dressed as.
I mean, look, it's safe to say
we never spoke again after Halloween, okay, so yeah
Yeah, oh it's Halloween party and we walked in I look incredibly fit
And I shit my pants in the middle of this
Halloween party and right after I shit my pants
Yeah, I turned to him to say I've shit my pants, but I projectile vomit all down Batman.
And then he turns to me and he also projectile vomits.
We have to leave the party, right?
That's the first thing that's come.
I'd say the party's over for most people.
Everyone's going home.
Everyone's going home.
Happy Halloween.
God, this is such a horrible story, but it's also so fucking funny.
Anyway, so, uh, we never spoke again and, uh, turns out this restaurant had, uh,
this, this crazy outbreak of norovirus.
I was so unwell for about a week.
It was so embarrassing.
We, it was just, it's the worst.
It's the worst.
It keeps me up at night, but also because of the three brothers, I tell it all the
time. I tell the story all the time.
I tell it at parties. It's great. It's hilarious. It's also just after that. I just I couldn't believe my luck. Sorry. I had to say I had to do it
I'm so sorry. I just I had to end like that
Was fit Batman projectile vomiting because you projectile vomited or did he also have norovirus from the restaurant?
Yeah, yeah, my publicist is in there wanting to,
to fall into a hole into the ground.
I'm going to get fired from my, from my publicist.
Your publicist knows what does the mountains
on social media.
This is absolutely the best thing that could have happened.
Sweet pea is going to be watched by everyone.
I've ruined it.
Yeah. No, I don't.
I, he, he also had norovirus.
Yeah. Yeah.
So that must have made you feel a bit better about it.
Oh, it did. I mean, look, we're all human, aren't we? You know?
Nobody is strong enough to withstand the amount of tacos that I ate full of norovirus.
I've eaten straight norovirus. I mean, look, it's going to happen.
Yeah, of course. It's fine.
Of course. Really, it's a good story.
Yeah. It could have been an amazing, and that's how I met your mother moment.
It just, neither of us were strong enough.
Also, it's good for Halloween.
Projectile Vomit is good for Halloween, isn't it?
So on brand.
If you'd been dressed as the girl from the Exorcist, it would have been perfect.
Oh yeah.
That would have been so good.
Also, why don't we just like pretend that was part of the, the Halloween, you know,
party, decorating.
It's hard to do that, I guess, when you stink of sick and shit.
Yeah.
Also, you made a big thing about, you're like, I look fit, I look so fit.
I did.
What a waste of an outfit.
Yeah, yeah.
Had to burn it.
Yeah.
That would be crazy.
I didn't burn it.
My mum had to come pick me up though.
Oh, so embarrassing.
Mum, you picked me up, I've shat myself at a party.
I shat myself and as I turned to tell my date, I'd shut myself. I put a lot of them
and then he put you can pick me up. Please pick me up. So anyway, hmm. Diet Coke. Diet
Coke. Diet Coke. The next day and it cured your. Oh, and it cured my. That's yeah. That
is how. Why did I tell that story? We can be that whole thing, right? No. Yeah. We're
going to bleep the heart. It's going to be one long one. We can bleep that whole thing, right? Nope. Yeah, we're going to bleep the whole thing.
It's going to be one long bleep.
We can.
Sure.
We won't.
We can.
We know what our listeners like.
Yeah.
We've told, there's been many stories told in this podcast of, you know,
shitting themselves.
Oh, that's good.
That makes me feel a bit better.
That's one of the more dramatic ones.
Was it?
I like a good dramatic reading.
It's a good one.
Do you want to tell my shit myself story?
Thank you, Ben.
I mean, I hate to have to say this, but which one?
I mean, loads of times.
How many times?
I mean-
As an adult.
As an adult.
We can't go right back to when you were a little baby.
No, right.
It's going to take too long.
It's got to be 18.
As an adult, twice, I think.
And I think I've told both of them on the podcast.
Oh, okay.
Well, one was when I think I had a quesadilla from a Mexican food truck.
Then did a TV show the next day.
I was in LA, did a standup set and then instant.
And then my agent and standards, it didn't go well.
And my agent at the time wanted to go to a steak house.
Then I went to the steak house, shit my pants.
And, uh, well, you're a year and a year in a I a year and a half? Oh, you were in a bathroom?
Yeah, but it's-
It doesn't count.
What are you talking about?
It doesn't count if you're in a bathroom.
I wasn't sitting on the toilet.
His story is not I was sat on the toilet.
Yeah, I was sat on the toilet.
I shit myself all the time.
I shot myself this morning.
I was sitting on the toilet, thank God.
So, once again, the old toilet caught it.
I guess you-
But I move repeatedly, shit myself every day into a toilet.
Oh no, I did it again.
Oh, you.
Oh, God.
Don't want to tell people this.
Fine.
At least you're in private.
I was having a...
I was urinating, standing up with my trousers and pants on.
No.
And then chatting.
Really? Yeah, because I thought, this is then shat into, yeah, cause I thought. What did you think?
This is a fart.
Yeah.
One of those, eh?
Yeah.
He's one of the men who stand at urinals and fart
while they're pissing.
The whole bathroom was empty.
The gnome's in there.
So I was like.
I've never pissed standing up,
so I wouldn't know how easy or not easy,
or I don't know the connotations.
You are missing out.
It's the best feeling in the world.
There's men who stand.
That's the best feeling in the world.
Yeah. Yeah, fart. There's men who stand... That's the best feeling in the world.
There's men who will proudly fart while they're stood up. Yeah, they're bad men.
Yeah, and it's normally... Most people fart when they're standing, don't they?
Yeah, but not while they're standing. Do you pause the pee to fart?
I don't need these guys. These guys are like... Who knows how they do it? You see a beatboxer
and they can do like the bassline and the drums at the same time. You're like, who knows how they do it. You see a beatboxer and they can do like the bassline and the drums at the same time.
You're like, how the fuck is this guy,
that's what these guys do.
The bassline and the drums at the same time is so good.
That's gonna live in my head rent free.
That's amazing.
Yeah, that's what I did.
Bonito is demanding that you say more about Diet Coke,
but like, I don't know if you want, you don't have to.
I'm trying to get a Diet Coke sponsorship, I don't know about you guys, I'm out here trying to get free Diet Coke for life.
So I'm like, do you remember like the Nando's black cars? I don't know if they were actually real or not.
They were real, we know people who had them.
Oh yeah?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Alright, weird flex.
I've seen them.
Um, I'm trying to get a Diet Coke black car, that's all I want.
And that's why you told the puking story.
Because I think that's going to really help their brand.
Really help their image.
That it cures all ailments.
That's the focus.
It can cure norovirus.
Can cure norovirus?
Wow.
I've said it now.
Am I going to double down?
Yes, I am. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It can kill. This
has gone very Joe Rogan this podcast now. Oh yeah. Yeah. It's bound to happen eventually.
Yeah. We'll eventually get strained to those waters. Yeah. Pull that up Benito.
Your dream dessert. The donuts from Adventure Island on Southend on Sea.
Have you been there?
Adventure Island, Southend on Sea?
No.
It's so good.
Ben is calmly nodding because of course he's been.
And you've had the donuts, I assume.
Everyone's had the donuts.
No, you haven't.
He likes theme parks and stuff.
No, no, that was silly.
He's definitely been to the, yeah.
You like a theme park?
I love a theme park.
I love a roller coaster.
It's my favorite. Wow, second favorite after games. Third, third after games. I love that
that your thought process there was like, Oh no, I've just, I've just betrayed games
by saying I like rollercoasters. I love rollercoasters. They're my favorite. I'm nothing if not loyal.
Yeah. Very loyal. Uh, and I, and I love a list. So it's important to me to know what
my favorite things are in order.
But interestingly lists are not at the top of the list.
Oh shit, you keep doing this, you keep sort of confusing me and I'm, and I,
you've given me a lot to think about.
I'm going to go home and I'm going to just lie in the dark looking up at the ceiling thinking about where lists ranks on my list of favorite things.
Lists of things you don't know, yeah.
Do you love lists more than games and roller coasters?
I use them more than I use games.
And I definitely visit a list more than I visit a roller coaster.
Roller coasters you can't do too much.
It loses, I came in really strong with that opinion.
I do feel quite strongly about it.
You can't do a roller coaster too much.
It loses the impact.
Okay.
Once you know where the drop is, it's less fun.
You can't forget. Or close your eyes. But with a list, it's fun every time, right?
Yeah, it is. You can't close your eyes with a list. I quite like reprioritizing a list. I do it
multiple times a day. Like, oh, that doesn't deserve number two. That should be really like
number 10. Yeah, big list person. I keep this of everything.
Didn't weirdly make a list for this.
Yeah, that's interesting.
Sort of the only thing I should maybe have made a list for.
But I wanted to be surprised.
Yeah, yeah, and we've been surprised by some of your choices.
I wanted to surprise you.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Did I succeed? Are you surprised?
Oh, very surprised. Constantly.
Good.
There's been so many surprises.
I didn't expect you to puke after shitting yourself.
Yeah. You thought you knew the ending of that story, didn't you? No, I didn't know.
Yeah. No.
The surprisee becomes the surpizer.
Exactly.
Yeah. I spent a lot of time in Southend on sea.
My nan lives there.
And I spent a lot of time there when I was a child.
Arguably too much time.
Had my birthday party there when I was nine.
That's nice.
Yeah, it was really nice.
Yeah.
Really, really nice. It was a really, really good time.
Why are you so aggressively telling us it was nice?
Because it wasn't very nice.
Okay.
Because it was fine. It was just, it was a birthday party and I, you know, I didn't have a ton of
friends and so I invited, I invited nine people and then my mom made me invite everyone in the class, which
was just automatically just very embarrassing.
You've got to get on a train.
By the time you've got there, you've spent two hours on a train with 23 people that don't
like you very much.
And then you get to the South End and it's raining and no one's been to Essex before.
Yeah.
You know?
So you've got to introduce all these kids to Essex.
So then you go, welcome to Essex.
And you know, I'm now picturing myself
like sort of a nine-year-old Essex tour guide.
Yeah.
And then you say, try these donuts,
but the donuts were, maybe that's why I want the donuts,
because it's a happy memory.
Because all the kids were like, yeah, she's really cool.
Do they have anything on them, these donuts?
What would you call them?
Sugary, sugary donuts. Are they fresh? Hot, yeah. That's really cool. Do they have anything on them, these donuts? What would we call them? Sugary, sugary donuts.
Are they fresh?
Hot, yeah.
That's key.
You get 12 little ones in like a bag.
They're just like, it's nostalgic.
And it's, I guess like the sugar high combined
with the roller coasters.
It's just like, it's a good time.
It's a good day.
And then, you know, you eat as many as you can.
You feel really sick.
Again, that's part of the self-anoncid experience.
It's feeling sick on the roller coaster and they're hot.
I said that already.
Sugary, did I say that?
Lots of sugar?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We know that they're sugary.
Do they come with like a sauce or anything
or are they just plain, they're a little hot?
I don't think so.
I'm not really much of a sauce girl.
I don't really, I never liked the sauce.
I like my crumble plain.
I don't like really ice cream or custard
or anything on the crumble.
Is that red flag? You're looking at me like that.
No, no, it's a red flag.
I think it's interesting, but you know.
Both of your voices went very high when you said that.
You're betraying yourselves.
No, it's fine.
It's fine.
I really tried to get away there.
Yeah, that was quite disappointing.
Well, look, I was more like, oh, why have we jumped to crumble straight away?
Oh, right. You know, it was like, I think it was we jumped to crumble straight away? Oh, right.
You know, it was like, I think it was to illustrate that you're not a source girl.
To illustrate that I'm not a source girl.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Do you want to have a guess at who I'm thinking of?
Because otherwise the listener's going to be like, why did that game of guess who just
never?
Yeah, let's do it.
Yeah.
So do you want to ask me one of your famous questions?
I think you should ask me.
Okay. Got you. Let's do it. Yeah. So do you want to ask me one of your famous questions? I think you should ask me.
Okay. So you're thinking about one of these two.
Never try and game the gamer.
Okay. So you're thinking of one of these two. The gamey has become...
Yeah. I'm thinking of one of the people in this room, but it could also be you.
Okay. Right. One of the three people, not including me. Ask a question. Ask a question. When they were a little boy, did they frequently
eat a dish called the Picker's Basket? None of you have got very, oh no, maybe you've
all got very good poker faces. Is it Ben? Are you Ben?
I'm going purely
Thinking of whatever but you know, you're thinking of someone. Oh, no, I'm thinking someone
Based on your rules. Yeah Yeah. Wait, no, no, no. Hang on. So Ella doesn't know our backgrounds enough to know. Whoa, Ella flipped it, didn't she?
I've got to think of someone.
I know more about you guys.
But then, hang on a minute.
Why have you asked me a question?
Because that's how Guess Who works.
No, it is. And you told me to.
No, but then, so true.
Also, this is a very hard game, so I don't know you guys.
We've just met.
I don't know anything about you.
Okay, okay. I'll do it.
Do you know anything about the people on Guess Who?
I guess not.
Yeah. I guess not.
But it can't be a background question. It has to be a vibe question
Okay, do they look like if they picked up?
Oh, I say yes or no, that's how the game works a bowl full of cereal their little wrists would snap
Uh, yes, is it bad? No, is it me? Yes
Is it Ben? No. Is it me? Yes. I can't believe you just asked me a question and I guessed the person. I've so grossly misunderstood the concept of guess. I quite like it. I quite
like this game. This is good. It's good in person. It's a good in person game. We don't
need the board actually. Delighted to be last on the list of people whose wrists would snap if they picked up a bowl of cereal.
I mean, your wrists don't look like they would snap. Also, it's quite hard, you have to not look at the person to check their wrists. I didn't walk in here and immediately look at everyone's
wrists. So I actually only picked you because you're the only person whose wrists I could see in my
peripheral vision. So you couldn't see Ben's? Well, I didn't want to go like that because you were looking at me.
You would have seen me go like that.
Yeah, yeah.
And move my eyes.
I thought you would have made a wrist list.
A wrist list?
No.
Well, I've walked in, I've gone on my phone and gone, best wrists.
From one to three.
Weren't you already meant to be thinking of someone?
So you should have already been thinking of me.
No, I know.
So then when I asked you that question.
Look, usually I've got a board in front of me.
I've never done it like this.
And I sort of had to do a little bit of mental gymnastics
to get there.
And then now I understand the concept of the game.
And now I'm, and now I'd like to play again.
Okay.
Well now I'm thinking of someone.
And I've got to ask questions.
Yeah. Yeah.
Oh, but this is mean.
No, it's not mean.
Cause I don't know you.
You can't hurt their feelings, these guys.
Or mine.
I'm thinking of one of you three. So wait, I...
Now, hang on, I've got to do the mental gymnastics again.
You're thinking of someone.
Yeah.
See, now you're getting annoyed,
but you were the one who tried to start...
No, I know, but this is the problem with games.
I am very competitive and I'm annoyed at myself
because I haven't immediately grasped the rules of the game that I came up with.
Yes.
You see what I mean?
Yeah.
I'm getting very annoyed.
I'm thinking of someone in this room.
I'm thinking of someone in this room and you have to ask me a question.
I have to guess who you're thinking of.
Yeah, and it has to apply to their vibe.
Or your imagined history of them.
Oh, yeah, true.
Is your person look like they could be like, are they like a live action animated?
They look like they're an animated cartoon character.
Do they look like they're the face of a cartoon?
Yeah. Sorry. Just having a look. they're an animated cartoon character. Do they look like they're the face of a cartoon? Uh, yeah.
Sorry, I'm just having a look.
Just look straight at me by the way.
No, I'm allowed to move my eyes now.
And they're allowed to look at everyone.
I mean, it's like everyone's time
to really take advantage of that moment.
To try and figure out.
It's funny, because actually now everyone
looks a bit animated.
Yeah, yeah.
Do you look like you could be like a Scottish white walker
from Game of Thrones?
Wow.
I have not seen Game of Thrones, but I'm going to say yes.
Are you Ben?
Yes.
You don't look like a white walker by the way, it's just because you've got blue eyes.
It was the only thing I could think of.
Yeah, you could be an extra.
It's literally just the blue eyes.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And also I don't know where Scottish came from.
I think it's because you've got a bit of stubble and in my head,
in my head that's like stubble equals Scottish.
I don't know why it's a weird connotation.
Yeah, weird. So you're learning about yourself in this game as well.
Yeah, good game.
Yeah, unfortunately. I'm not learning good things about myself.
This is how we like to come towards the end of the podcast is...
We've been talking for a hundred years.
That's what we like. We like people to feel like it's been a hundred years and for them to go...
At the end of it. Yeah. Yeah. No, I've had a great chat. This has been a really fun. Do you want to play another round before I read you? Yeah, go on. But I thought, should
we let someone else have a go? Yeah. I'd think of someone. Okay. Um, do you want to ask?
All of us should ask questions. Are you not allowed to speak? Me and you can take turns
asking Ed a question. Okay. Do you want to go first?
Should I go first?
There we go.
There's the sound again.
That's my thinking sound.
Do you look like you were bullied as a child?
I mean.
All my questions are really mean and I can't.
No, it's fine.
But bearing in mind that what you're trying to narrow this down to is between
the three of us. You were not narrowing it down very, I mean.
Can I, can I, can I get rid of that question? Can I?
You have to force people to come to your birthday and stuff then.
I know. It's literally no wonder I had no friends. I was actually just a bully. I was a bully.
I wasn't bullied. I was the bully. No one wanted to hang out with me. So mean.
You can, you can throw that question out and start.
I'm going to throw that question out. Can you go? I'm panicking a bit. Yeah. Did the person you're thinking of once shit themselves
and then puke all over their date? Yes. Is it Ella? Yes. I read your menu back to you
now. See how you feel about it. Did you write that down? Hold on. You would like tap water,
pop it onto bread. You want warm sourdough with Marmite butter from Heaney's in Cardiff. Starter, you would like pork soup dumplings
from Joe Shanghai in New York.
Main course, you want the Spy Kids burger,
but like from how you remember it.
Side dish, you want a concept of salad
and cheap supermarket prawn crackers.
Drink diet coke and dessert.
Donuts from Adventure Island in Southend on Sea.
Yeah, that sounds like a lovely menu.
Yeah, happy with that?
Yeah, I am really happy with that.
We haven't even talked about you and all your mates eating each other on the island.
This is a food podcast.
I think seeing as we just talked about a bunch of school kids going to Adventure Island,
we might need to just clarify that that's not what you're referring to, question mark?
No, I'm not referring to that.
I'm referring to you and your friends all ate with a plane crash.
Yellow Jackets.
Yes, yes.
The TV show.
Say, I'd say lead with Yellow Jackets TV show.
Acting.
You bury in the headline there.
Yeah, yeah.
They all ate each other.
Not you and all your friends ate each other on an island.
We've never had...
Adventure Island when you took all your friends to Adventure Island.
You gave them the donuts and then you ate them all.
Yeah.
Only one child returned back to London.
Yeah.
And happy birthday me.
Yeah.
Yellow jackets.
But that's messed up.
That is really messed up.
We never had anyone on the podcast before who's been that heavily involved in cannibalism
and this is a food podcast.
I know.
It's a bit of a thing.
I'm going to get a reputation because it's happened in two shows I've done, that one and Fallout.
Yeah, people are starting to talk. It's not good.
But it's always in a situation where it gets a bit desperate, right?
I'd hope so.
It's never like, you've never been in a show where you're like, oh, I'm hungry. I'll just eat a...
No, well in Fallout, I don't eat anyone, but the ghoul does eat other ghouls.
Sometimes humans, I think. Actually,
I don't think he does eat humans. He makes ass jerky out of another ghoul's bum, obviously.
He would make it out of his elbow, wouldn't he? Silly.
Well, if you don't know your ass from your elbow.
Wow. Best in the biz. He's the best in the biz.
Quick question before we go then. You've got to eat another actor who you've worked with in the past. Just who's it going to be? It has to be someone you've worked with.
That's a really good question. Because are you going to go for... What's the context? What's the circumstances?
I've got to eat them because I'm desperate, because I'm very, very hungry.
Or you've got a gun to my head and you're like, you've got to eat them now, but I'm not that hungry.
How hungry am I?
You're very, very hungry.
I'm very, very hungry.
Am I starving? Am I on like, is it a yellow jacket situation?
It's a yellow jacket situation.
Yeah.
So I want someone with like big muscles, right?
Because then that's like more protein probably.
Yeah.
Right?
Who's the most muscular actor I've worked with?
The guy that I threw up on was pretty muscly.
He's not an actor that I worked with.
I mean, yeah, he is someone that I know that's got muscles.
I'd probably eat him.
Oh, Aaron, Aaron from Fallout.
He's been working out a bit lately.
Yeah.
I'll eat him.
What's his surname?
Moten, Aaron Moten.
Am I Moten?
You're getting eaten.
Yeah.
Sorry, Aaron.
He's a lovely guy.
That's a compliment.
You just said he's muscly.
Yeah.
I did actually. Yeah. You're working out. Yeah. I forget that He's a lovely guy. That's a compliment. You said he's muscly Yeah, I did actually yeah working out. Yeah, I forget that that's a compliment But much was detriment now he's getting eaten the more the more you work out the more likely you are to be eating
That's the mole of the podcast
Wow
Didn't expect it to end like that. But thank you so much
There we are. Wow.
What an app.
Wow.
What an app.
What a chat.
Twisted turns.
She's so much fun.
I loved that.
Yeah.
I mean, it's nice to have the memory of a food on the menu, especially when, but it
was sad to show her that it wasn't what she remembered it.
But that's meant that's memory for you.
It was sad though.
See someone had to put someone through that.
Yeah.
Hopefully she can forget about that and go back to her original memory.
I just like the platonic ideal of a burger from spy kids.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Hopefully that is the heratory meal.
Yeah.
Um, didn't say Nuka Cola though.
So that's good.
Diet Coke went with the traditional diet coke rather than Nuka Cola
We could have pushed it. Yeah, so the listeners might have a go at us for that
We got sidetracked with the the vomit story and yeah
I'm Benito did say to us maybe talk more about diet coke and maybe that's where he was heading
He wanted unfair I think to push people into the secret ingredient. I think is unfair. I think it's unfair
But maybe people were like well, you didn't get a brand.
What if she meant diet Nuka Cola?
She said diet Coke, which is the brand, right?
Yeah, so I think we've got to accept that.
But also then we wouldn't have heard about the donuts.
Exactly, we wouldn't have heard about those lovely donuts
and we wouldn't be able to say,
watch Sweet Pea everyone, it's on Sky. Yes, watch Sweet Pea, it's on Sky yes watch Sweet Pea it's on Sky and now it comes out on October 10th that is
tomorrow if you're listening to this on the day that it's released but otherwise
it is out now on now and Sky I'm gonna watch it I'm excited I'm gonna watch it
I'm excited I am currently on tour doing my show hot
diggity dog until the end of November come along going to loads of different
places if you live in London I'm doing the London Palladium on November
23rd. I'm also in Manchester, well Salford next year, January 19th and 20th at the
Salford Lowry filming some shows. That's exciting, filming the shows. So come along.
Not much news over here. I guess I'm gonna go home and try and lift a bowl of cereal just to prove some people wrong.
But that's about it. Yeah. Thank you for listening to the Off Menu podcast. Goodbye. Goodbye.
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