Off Menu with Ed Gamble and James Acaster - Ep 270: Sebastian Stan

Episode Date: November 6, 2024

The MCU’s Winter Solider – and star of ‘A Different Man” and ‘The Apprentice’ – Sebastian Stan is this week’s dream diner. But we better watch out, he might prank us.Trigger warning: t...his episode contains some chat about dieting.Sebastian stars in ‘A Different Man’ which is in cinemas now.He also stars in ‘The Apprentice’ which is in cinemas now.Follow Sebastian on Instagram @imsebastianstanOff Menu is a comedy podcast hosted by Ed Gamble and James Acaster. Recorded and edited by Ben Williams for Plosive.Artwork by Paul Gilbey (photography and design).Follow Off Menu on Twitter and Instagram: @offmenuofficial.And go to our website www.offmenupodcast.co.uk for a list of restaurants recommended on the show.Watch Ed and James's YouTube series 'Just Puddings'. Watch here. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 James Acaster here with the off-menu podcast before we get into today's episode Please I'd like to let you know that my show hecklers welcome live at the KLV in Kettering has been released on vinyl And we're doing a repressing so get online And buy that vinyl it's a show where on the night that we recorded it I've pretty much got through 5% of the material and most of it is me dealing with the audience as God intended You can get it from my website Jamesamesacaster.com or pretty much anywhere I think. You know how to work the internet. ACAST powers the world's best podcasts.
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Starting point is 00:01:44 Welcome to the off-menu podcast taking the pickle of conversation dipping it in the batter of friendship frying it in the oil of humor Fried pickles frickles frickles. That's it. Gable. My name is James a castle together. We own a dream restaurant every single week We invite the guest and ask them their favorite ever start a main course dessert side dish and drink not in that order And this week our guest is Sebastian Stan. I like frickles man, but yeah, sometimes when they're the big spears Yep, there's too much liquid in them. So I prefer a frickle that slice. Yeah, I like the frickels man, but sometimes when they're the big spears, there's too much liquid in them. So I prefer a frickel that's slice. Yeah, I like it to be, you know, in like coined coins. Frickle coins. They're nice. Yeah, when they're long, they're going to be full of molten pickle juice. Yes.
Starting point is 00:02:17 And you're in big trouble if you bite into that. Sebastian Stan is a wonderful actor. Yes, he's absolutely fantastic. Huge Stan Stans. Yeah. We like so many of his movies. Don't please don't say that to him. Huh? Don't don't say I'm a Stan Stan to him. I bet he's never heard that before. Because sometimes these Hollywood actors, they don't know what's going to happen, do they?
Starting point is 00:02:36 They're you know, they're going around all day. They're being thrown into situations to talk about their films. And I don't know how Sebastian Stan is going to react to, let's be honest, an odd man. Yes. Saying, I'm a Stan Stan. Surely people have said I'm a Stan Stan to him before. Yeah, but not immediately in a professional context because you know this is a small studio, I think he's going to be scared and then I know you're going to bring up Marvel and some of your theories. All I heard is that you see this is a professional context. For him, he's been told it is. He doesn't know what he's coming into.
Starting point is 00:03:08 He thinks it's a professional context. Well, listen, talking about professional context, a different man is out now. Yes. It's Sebastian's new film. That's the name of the film. We're not saying it's a different guest now. We're not saying he's canceled while we've been talking. Because I said I was a standstill.
Starting point is 00:03:22 A different man is coming in. Yeah, yeah, no, a different man is here because I've blown it. A different man is a psychological thriller comedy about a man who undergoes facial reconstruction surgery only to become obsessed with the actor who plays him in a stage production based on his former life. It sounds super fascinating. I'm really excited to see it. And also the film is the part of the torch from non-disabled actors portraying characters with disabilities to actors with disabilities playing who they want to play. So beyond villain, victim or outcast roles.
Starting point is 00:03:51 I think it's really exciting. James didn't read that, if anything. He just came up with that. I just came up with it. I just know it anyway, because I'm a Stanstamp. But like, I'm really excited to go, because like the storyline itself already has got me hooked. But also like what the film
Starting point is 00:04:05 is doing beyond that also is like really exciting and interesting so I'm really looking forward to hearing what Sebastian has to say about the film. Absolutely his co-star is Adam Pearson who has been you know I think a bit of a mainstay of British TV I've seen him on on various things so I'm excited to see how he tackles this role very exciting. Very excited to have Sebastian on the podcast. But of course, if he says the secret ingredient, an ingredient which we deem to be unacceptable, we will have to kick him out of the dream restaurant.
Starting point is 00:04:31 Yes, we will. And the secret ingredient this week is winter peas. Winter peas, of course. Sebastian played Bucky, the winter soldier in the Marvel universe. So winter. Yes, winter. And then we Googled what foods have the word winter in them. Well, that's not true.
Starting point is 00:04:46 You said winter peas straight off the bat. I did. And then we Googled to check if winter peas were a thing. Benito did. Benito rarely thinks I've got it right. Yes. So he Googled it first. Everything that James has ever said.
Starting point is 00:04:57 So I said winter peas and he was like, well, I'm gonna Google an actual thing that has the word winter in them. And he was like, oh, okay, fair enough. Yes. But yeah, he admits it that I was right. Yeah. Well, let's speak to Sebastian Stan, shall we James? Yes. This is the off menu menu of Sebastian Stan. Welcome Sebastian to the dream restaurant. Hello. Welcome Sebastian Stan to the dream restaurant. Hello Welcome Sebastian Stan to the dream restaurant, but it's better you for some time. Thank you. We surprised by the genie there
Starting point is 00:05:32 Yes, yes I was Have you ever had like a surprise like that on set an explosion go off when it wasn't supposed to yeah Somebody brought in that fart machine Of one point, you know, the one where you put under the seat. Yeah. And that one was going around for a little while. That was sort of funny because you could be having a really intense conversation. Yeah. But it still works. It still gets people laughing. It's good stuff. Even I, you know, I wasn't there for that, but even just the description of the fart machine, I'm on board with it as a joke. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:06 It's always a good time. I imagine though, it depends where you are. Whoever bought that fart machine in. I reckon there's a certain place down the call sheet where past there, you can't be the guy who's bringing in the fart machine. If you're pretty new and you're still feeling it out with people and the fart machine goes off at number one on the call sheet was the one who is meant to look like they farted. They're going to go, okay. I think it's usually, yeah, I think it has to be, you know, you have to be in it for a couple of weeks and
Starting point is 00:06:33 get to know people's humor and stuff. I once worked on this movie and we all got along really well. And then I remember it was one of the actors's birthdays and I got them like a whole animal farm. Like they were like rabbits and llamas and pigs and like everything. They just came with everything at the trailer and you know, they were so surprised to find geese like coming out of the trailer. But you know, it has to be, yeah, I may not, you know, I wouldn't want to do that to like Daniel Day-Lewis or something. It has to be the right kind of film and whatever, you know.
Starting point is 00:07:11 Unless his character that he was playing is like a farmer, in which case that would be fantastic for him, wouldn't it? He'd love that. Yeah, I mean, listen, he's, I was just reading, he's made a cameo in his son's movie. So he's returned after seven years, even for a little bit, but we'll take it. Right. Yeah, interesting. A method actor making a cameo in their kids movie. Because then he's in, he's in character around his son all the time. Surely his son at some point is going to go, dad. I wonder. I, yeah, I wonder. I don't know what the part is, but, but you know, I'm sure it's just as committed as always. Well, apparently he'd go home in character anyway, so I'm sure his son's seen it all
Starting point is 00:07:46 before. Yeah, yeah. He's never met his dad. He doesn't know his dad. It's just a string of characters. Let's talk about A Different Man, your new film. What can you tell people about it, who don't know about it? Oh, Jesus.
Starting point is 00:07:57 I mean, it's just like, it's like a Rubik's cube trying to explain it. I'll just say that most people that see it go, I've never seen anything like this movie. And that's usually a good sign in the world where we're like getting everything all the time in a trailer. It's just one of those films where I think you don't anticipate what happens. And it's, long story short, it's about an actor who has neurofibromatosis, which is a real thing, a real condition, and he decides to undergo a reconstruction surgery for his face and desperately wants to fit into the world and look like everybody else. He successfully undergoes it and then instead of all of his preconceived dreams coming true as life turns down a spiral of self-hatred
Starting point is 00:08:48 and obsession and identity breakdown. And the way that sort of happens is really, really unique and very funny and also like supremely tragic. I love, I mean, it's quite exciting the theme of the film about who should play certain roles as well. That's one of the themes that's in there. And like, you must've had loads of like great conversations on set about what you wanted to do with the film and different people's opinions. Did it lead to interesting conversations away
Starting point is 00:09:20 from the film as well in your life, in your job that came from like your experience of doing this? Well, yeah, I mean, Aaron Schimberg, who wrote it and directed it, has disfigured himself. He's got a cleft palate and his previous film as well sort of dealt with, you know, disfigurement and disability and sort of our uncomfortability around it and the lack of conversation around it. And he encountered in his previous film by casting Adam Pearson, who's great in this film, a lot of backlash towards the fact that maybe him being accused of sort of exploiting Adams by casting him. So then when he was writing this movie, he thought, well, I can't really get an actor just in prosthetics because
Starting point is 00:10:05 then I'm not representing, you know, in the right way. So if I'm trying to cast someone appropriate and I'm accused of exploitation, and then I'm casting an abled actor to play someone disfigured, and I'm also getting accused for that, then ultimately nothing happens and nothing moves forward and there's no conversation out of it. So he was like, okay, I'm gonna make a movie where I can do both. And I'm just gonna kind of see how it translates and I'm gonna have these two characters sort of go at each other.
Starting point is 00:10:34 And it's incredibly smart because I feel like he really flips in the movie all of these misconceptions that we have about, you know, what a disabled person should be like, or what kind of roles we've seen them in. I mean, Adam in this film is such a different character than we have ever seen him play, period, but even then we would have imagined him.
Starting point is 00:10:59 So he's really found a way to kind of, A, get the movie made, and also find a way to bring people to kind of talk about it and offer like a further perspective on it. Incredible. We're going to get into your dream menu in a minute. It's such an interesting discussion about films, but now we do have to be really stupid for a bit. Yes. That's fine. From a different man to a different menu, Sebastian.
Starting point is 00:11:22 Oh, lovely. The perfect link, would you say? Well, you are what you eat. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You were in one film. In Fresh, you were what you ate. You were eating humans. That's right, yeah. Remember that?
Starting point is 00:11:37 Yes, I do. That was wild. I do, yeah. A lot of James's questions to actors are to say a film and then go, do you remember that? Which we're assuming you do actually. Not all actors we've had on do remember that film. Yeah, I do. I mean, that was, that was a lot of fun.
Starting point is 00:11:52 Well, the scene when you're preparing it all, it actually genuinely looks quite delicious for a second there, which is worrying. Well, there was a chef on set who was preparing things right on the on the dock. But it's interesting when something gets passed and you label it a certain way, because then you're looking at it differently and kind of looking for things in the meatballs. You know?
Starting point is 00:12:13 But that movie, it's funny. I hear a lot about that movie. People still kind of come up and ask me about it. And I never knew how it was going to do. I think, because it messes with your head a bit, that film, because it does make you, you're a very charismatic cannibal killer. And you do make the food look pretty delicious. It does get in the audience's heads more than if you were just like some crazed monster
Starting point is 00:12:41 who we were terrified of. You kind of go, oh, maybe I want to be a cannibal. Yeah. Sebastian Stan made it look quite nice. I think that that's what was interesting about that movie because the way that the writer had written it, you know, she made it so normal in a way. It was, you know, everybody, we were all like,
Starting point is 00:13:00 let's just try and play this as real as possible. We're not going for shock or laughs or whatever. It was just, and then maybe the audience will get behind it. But yeah, I mean, I think the music alone in that movie made me want to be a part of it. Maybe even more than something like that. We always start with still sparkling water. Sparkling.
Starting point is 00:13:23 It's sparkling all the way. To the point where sometimes I worry that I'm, is sparkling even real water? Well, this is the thing. It's the ongoing debate. I think there was actually, there was some science came out recently. I'm across the science.
Starting point is 00:13:37 I know you're across the science. Yeah, I'm across the science, man. I get all the papers. And apparently sparkling water has been proven to be as hydrating as still water. Cause that was always the thing, right? People has been proven to be as hydrating as still water. Because that was always the thing, right? People were like, it's not hydrating you because you're just drinking all the fizz and the
Starting point is 00:13:51 bubbles. But I think, yeah, you'll be fine. You can just drink it all day long. What do you love about it? It's refreshing. I feel like I don't, you know, for still water, I have to drink like room temperature. I can't drink it cold, but then sparkling water has to be out of a fridge. I feel like it can give you that satisfaction.
Starting point is 00:14:09 Yeah. If you were to, in a scene, have to down a bottle of still water and act like it was refreshing, would that be the biggest acting challenge? Yeah, sure. Yeah, yeah. It'd be pretty huge. I recently had to down water as vodka, right?
Starting point is 00:14:26 Like in the thing and that was like a very funny situation to kind of try and do. See Hugh Jackman punk, um, Tarrin Edgerton in the, in an interview they did, he pretended to down a miniature of vodka at the start of their interview and completely Tarrin Edgerton was like you, you are crazy. But it was water. It was water. Oh wow. So you are crazy. But it was water. It was water. Yeah. It made him look like a dick in front of everyone. In the press, there's a junket going on. They're like absolutely fuming for the rest of the day.
Starting point is 00:14:53 I imagine. He's very funny Hugh Jackman. Yeah. Like he really, I mean, I got, I've only met him a couple of times, but I, I get a sense that he'd be a lot of fun to work with. Yeah. He's bringing the fart machine. He probably would. Yeah. He's the in the fart machine. He probably would.
Starting point is 00:15:06 Yeah. He's the fart machine guy, you know. And then break into Les Mis. Yeah. And shit him. As soon as it happens. You usually get put with Anthony Mackie with junkets when it's like Marvel stuff.
Starting point is 00:15:18 So you two have to sit, do the interviews together? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm pretty sure that happened because about six or seven years ago, because I was so bad at junkets. I was always so quiet that they're like, we need to give him the loudest man on the planet to revive him. And he does.
Starting point is 00:15:38 I mean, Anthony is just so, you guys would have such a blast with him on the show. Like he's big time. It seems in an interview, has he got a boat or something? Or is that just in the show that you guys did? No, no, no. I think that was just in Falcon and the Winter Soldier. He has a boat. I think he has a boat. He also goes fishing. He goes hunting. He's been trying to get me down there to go hunting with him for a long time. I'm like, Anthony, I don't,
Starting point is 00:16:02 can you imagine me with a rifle down there in the backwards of New Orleans? I mean, but it would be fun. I think we should, I would do that with him in film it because it just would be ridiculous, you know, in a good way. Oh, people would watch a whole series of you two go and hunt them together. Yeah, into the wild, but he loves that thing.
Starting point is 00:16:20 Like, you know, he'd be the one to on that. There's those shows, you know, that take actors and put them on a mountain and then they have to kind of like survive. Yeah. That wouldn't be me. That wouldn't be you. No. How long do you think you could survive on a mountain? What's he got with it? What have they given him? Good question. I don't think it's, I'm not thinking of that show, uh, naked and afraid, you know, that show. Yeah, that's when they're naked. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You've got more than that. I'm imagining like you've got some water. Yeah. I mean, it's not a sign naked. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You've got more than that, I'm imagining. Like you've got some water. Yeah, I mean, it's not like this.
Starting point is 00:16:48 Sign up to Naked and Afraid, is he Sebastian Stan? Naked and Afraid, just the one way to go out. Like the last hurrah. Return to innocence. Yeah, quite a good end to the career. I don't know why anyone agrees to that show, to be fair. No. It's fascinating, isn't it? career. I don't know who, why anyone agrees to that show to be fair. No, it's fascinating, isn't it? Like I don't know either, but, but there are people that do really well on it. I mean, somebody's cut out for it. But I just think no matter how well you do on it,
Starting point is 00:17:16 you're still butt naked on TV the whole time and you've got to carry around the mic in a little bag and it looks really undignified. There's no winners. Have you seen naked attraction? Have you seen that? Yeah, I have seen it. We were just talking about it. Were you? Just talking about it. Yeah, we were. Because we're talking about wild shows here and that one, that's hilarious, isn't it? It's really like a car accident. You're just constantly enamored. Yeah, just the way the thing slides up and then from the feet to the middle is the some of the worst moments on TV I've ever seen. I think imagine being behind that screen like I wonder what it's got above your dick. Yeah. Just thinking I actually hope that I get eliminated now because I'd like them not to see my face and for this to go on TV.
Starting point is 00:17:59 Yeah, you know, that's right. At that point. I'll be like, I'm happy going home with this. Yeah, but they've got to be I mean, I wonder what the submission process At that point I'll be like, I'm happy going home with this. But they've gotta be, I mean, I wonder what the submission process for that is. What are the questions that they ask or, you know. I think they just send through a photo, a full length naked photo, but this producer looks at it on really slow internet so it loads up from the bottom.
Starting point is 00:18:21 So they can imagine the reveal of the volume. I don't know what it'll be like. Sometimes pretend to be on naked I've got electronic blinds That's amazing Yeah, yeah, so who's judging who's judging you on the posty Well, one of the most common problems is the blokes who go on it, very afraid of, you know, looking small on TV, trying to make it look as impressive as possible before going on. But then there's a very fine line where if they just get all the way boner, they got to go home.
Starting point is 00:18:58 So you can't put that on TV. Right, right, right. So they're like, I've got to make it as impressive as possible without getting too impressive. Yeah. But that would be even so... Sorry about this Sebastian. It'd be so psychotic, wouldn't it?
Starting point is 00:19:11 Like, you're like, your brain's just trying to figure out how, where to send blood to begin with. And it's like, you're just like, there now! I'm like, there's a million people that are on the other side just waiting and it's... Apparently the studio is freezing cold as well. Yeah. So they're battling against the elements. That's not helping. Yeah. That's not helping anybody. Pop lobs or bread? Pop lobs or bread? Sebastian Stan? Pop lobs or bread?
Starting point is 00:19:35 None. Oh, none. Great. That would be the bread. Yeah. That would be the bread. I'm glad you said, for a minute, I thought you said none. And I thought, oh no, this is going to be a short episode. No, no, no. I love, I, bread and butter is the greatest food you can ever have. Yeah. It is delicious. None as well. We don't get none. We've had none a bit in the past, but not that often. It's great to have a shout out for none.
Starting point is 00:19:55 Yeah. No, I mean, I, especially here in England, it would be really good. Is that, is that something that you do when, whenever you come over to England is go for a curry? Is that something that you do whenever you come over to England? Is go for a curry? Um, no. That's not where my mind goes. No, but I do love, I have had Indian food here. It's great.
Starting point is 00:20:15 But naan is like one of those breads that I could eat all the time. Are they dips with naan breads? Not naan bread. I've called it naan bread. That's the ultimate white thing to do. Yeah. I'm going to call myself out on that. I just said bread, bread. Yeah. I'm an idiot. Keep that in the edit Benito. I need to be on my toes. I don't want this sugar coated and put out so that I make out like I'm better than I am. The world needs to hear that. I just said bread, bread.
Starting point is 00:20:41 Just the reactions. Yeah. Yeah. Ben's used to this. You just sit there and takes it all. Oh yeah. He's just sitting there. He doesn't care. He ain't listening to us. What do you make of him so far?
Starting point is 00:20:54 He seems like a thinker. Yeah. But because he has to, I think. Yeah. Like he doesn't have much choice. I wonder if he like hears you guys in his think. Yeah. Like he doesn't have much choice. I wonder if he like hears you guys in his sleep. Yeah. Yeah. That's a good point. Actually. I would worry about that for him because he is obviously he's in the room for this. He's then editing it. He does
Starting point is 00:21:16 a very good job of the edits as well, to be fair to him. So he must listen to it more than he needs to to make it good. Yeah. And then he's got to put it out and then he's on a WhatsApp group of us to sort out when we're coming in for it. And we consistently get the dates wrong and mess up. So, Oh, when you're coming in, Yeah, we're not good people to work with.
Starting point is 00:21:35 Are you, do you, are you like, you turn up here on a Sunday and go, Oh, this is the wrong day. We'll just pop in at 4am and we'll be ready to go. So that might be a very interesting show. Talking about food at 4 a.m. and yeah, we'd be ready to go. That might be a very interesting show. Yeah, yeah. Talking about food at 4 a.m. Yeah, and obviously it's, you know, booking guests is difficult because you've got to balance people's schedules and all of this sort of stuff. And then also he's got to deal with our schedules as well. So yeah, yeah. The guys are busier than you might imagine. I'm sure. Given the conversation so far, you probably
Starting point is 00:22:01 think this is all we do. Yeah. But we've got, we've got other stuff. Well, that's the most insecure thing we've ever said to a guest. No, that's no, that is. I thought I saw a ring on that ring finger. So yeah, yeah. There you go. Yeah. So that's what you've got on. That's your marriage.
Starting point is 00:22:19 There's, there's life in that. Yeah. Let's get into your dream menu proper, your dream starter. I like yellow tail sashimi. I also really like a good strong butter lettuce. You really put some sauce behind saying that though. Yeah. Well, it's funny the butter lettuce because like it's like a very simple one, but I still, I think it's effective, you know, like some olive oil, I think and salt. Yeah. I'm actually not familiar with butter lettuce because like it's like a very simple one but I still I think it's effective you know like some olive oil I think and salt yeah I'm actually not familiar with butter lettuce I think you are I don't think I am will have had butter lettuce but you might not be familiar with it
Starting point is 00:22:54 but I'm not familiar with the term there's this Italian restaurant in New York called Via Corota and they do these little toasted bread like with butter and like anchovies and salt on it as a starter. And that is like the best. You do, I can see the dreaminess in your eyes. You're going off somewhere else in your eyes there. You clearly love these. I felt it when I said that. I felt the butter melting. Do you take other people to that restaurant, introduce them to that starter?
Starting point is 00:23:26 Many people. What's it like when they're about to take a bite? Are you watching them and being like, I hope they like it? Not everybody has the same reaction as I do. But I mean, that one's pretty well known in New York. Like I feel like via Corota, people know it. It's definitely a good splurge, food-wise. It's always so intense, isn't it, when you take people to a restaurant that you really like
Starting point is 00:23:48 and make them get the thing that you really like, and then it's just so nerve wracking, watching them eat it, waiting for the reaction. Well, is that something you guys do all the time? All the time, yeah. Every day of my life. Because of this podcast, we get asked a lot for our food recommendations
Starting point is 00:24:03 or restaurant recommendations. That's incredible, though. That's great, isn't it? Because then you go, like I was just telling Adam Pearson, who's in the movie, I was like, we need to do the trip, basically. Yeah. You and I. Those movies, I mean, it seemed like a dream come true. Those guys have both been on this podcast and obviously we asked them about that. Really?
Starting point is 00:24:20 Yeah, it does sound great. They're incredible and they clearly were eating in that movie for real. Like these were really good restaurants. And they were having wine. And I mean, it just seems like a dream. You and Adam should do it. Yeah. It would be great. Dean Street Townhouse, by the way.
Starting point is 00:24:34 Yeah. Here has that loaf of bread. That's pretty great as a starter. Oh, I mean, you can make your whole menu bread. So far. The things that are mainly bread based. Yeah. What's this loaf of bread that Dean Street
Starting point is 00:24:46 Townhouse do? I don't know what it is but they again they just the way that it comes out it's like warm and steamy and stuff it's great. I hate to come back to a film we've already mentioned but you were saying about when you really like a dish and then you're watching someone eat it and you're invested in it. How do you think that fresh guy that cannibal he makes someone a special dish and he thinks this is his favorite food he loves it. It's made out of a person obviously because he's a cannibal that's eating people. Right. And he's serving it to a friend and they're about to eat it. How do you think he feels? Watching them? Yeah. He's got that thing of like, I hope they like it, but also surely in his head somewhere he's got to be
Starting point is 00:25:20 like, I mean, to be fair though, it is a person. It's an acquired taste. Oh yeah. And it's an acquired taste as a human being. Well, that particular character, at least in the movie that I played, for him it's like he's just found out the greatest secret in the world that no one knows, and he's just told it to you. So he's like, right?
Starting point is 00:25:40 I mean, the expectation is that big? So he wouldn't even be thinking. Yeah. No, no, there would be no concern about it. So we're going for the anchovies on the toast for your starter. Yeah, delicious. Great. Absolutely love anchovies. I'm in a big anchovy phase at the moment. Anywhere it's available, I get anchovies. I always just think of the teenage meat and ninja turtles.
Starting point is 00:26:03 That's what I think of anchovies. That was the first time I ever heard of anchovies. I always think of the teenage meet and ninja turtles. That's what I think of anchovies That was the first time I ever heard of anchovies on the pizza Yeah, it was a little kid and they would hate anchovies on the pizza Michelangelo, especially was just like I can't have doesn't want it On the pizza like pineapple. No way, you know, like pineapple on the pizza. No, I can't do I can't sweet and salt Like I can't really do I have to really space it out. It's bizarre. I've just come back from a holiday. I went to Japan for a holiday and we went up into the mountains to see flying squirrels. Very exciting day and an Australian man came out to be our tour guide. They lived in Japan for quite a while and he was telling everyone this is what we're going to do. We go up there and behave like this and don't do this and that other. But he wanted to put a bit of fun into it and not just all rules so he went
Starting point is 00:26:47 I've actually got a flying squirrel with me in this in this bag here and obviously all the adults were like your bullshit just get get on with it but all the little kids were like excited about it and then he got this bag backpack you put it on the front and he was talking to this flying squirrel that was in the bag it's clearly a cuddly toy but it was a bit that he does as part of it. He was like, oh, the squirrel would like to know what kind of toppings I like on my pizza. And then he told the squirrel in Japanese that he liked pineapple and all the kids lost their minds and were like, what the like properly, we're not going into the mountains with this guy. If he liked pineapple on his pizza and he got really shy about it,
Starting point is 00:27:24 the tour guide after that, he felt a bit shy that he'd told us all that he likes pineapple on his pizza but I was unclear as to why that was in the storyline it's a specific thing I'm just realizing when when you were telling that story I'm listening to you and the whole time I'm trying to guess the next time you're gonna scream there's no more screaming There's not often screaming after this, but I might still do it at some point. Before you Sebastian. I'll keep throwing some extra ones. I know it would be funny if you just walked down the street in one point and just randomly
Starting point is 00:27:56 did that. Well, this is the irony of it all is that because I shout out of nowhere on this podcast, I walked down the street and then people who have seen the podcast. And now they're doing it to you. Millimeters from my face. And I do, I proper, I proper get scared. It's funny, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:28:14 Cause it's the same with like acting sometimes, like people just, they'll see something and they'll latch onto it and then they want desperately to share it with you. And you're like, thank you. But you know, I'm just, I'm just trying to get on with this day. This has been shared with me multiple times this morning. Yeah. Like, you know, people shout that at me, Papa Dums or Brad. And it's when I'm on stage doing standup, it's not even my catch phrase. So they're shouting his catchphrase at me. Pretty cool. Not for me. Not for Ed. So making nightmares. You got to have your own, you got to, you got to get your own. I'm going to get my own
Starting point is 00:28:44 catchphrase rather than welcome to the dream restaurant. Yeah. And it's not. I have a wife. Yeah. That is my catchphrase. I do have to say that a lot. It would be hilarious if you said that just randomly. Uh, I'm just going to have a tea.
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Starting point is 00:29:42 Listen to Canada land wherever you get your podcasts. Acast helps creators launch, grow and monetize their podcasts everywhere. Acast.com. Your dream main course. I mean, is there anything better than like spaghetti and meatballs? I don't know. Like that one, it's easy any day of the week, but then a good skirt steak or a good burger. Well we could do spaghetti and meatballs and inside the pile is like a burger right in the middle.
Starting point is 00:30:21 Like a little surprise. When you finish all the spaghetti meatballs there's a perfect burger in there. Just for the road. If you wanted. No I think the spaghetti meatballs really. How much can you eat in a sitting? Are you like, can you go for it? Do you have to stop yourself eating too much? No, but you know how it is. Like it's, I think with especially like you know exercise and like diet, trying to kind of keep in shape and stuff. Like I usually find that I have to have these cheat days, and then the cheat days become these crazy days where you could, but then for instance, maybe I won't have breakfast that day
Starting point is 00:30:55 because I know that the lunch is gonna be this glorious thing and you can properly enjoy it. You got the rock with his cheat days? Intense. What does he have, like four, like baked brownies or something or cookies? Like a whole pattern of pancakes? Trays of sushi as well. To me, sushi is not a cheat food. Like a tray of sushi to me is like I'm being healthy today. I'm going to eat a tray of sushi.
Starting point is 00:31:17 But the rock is having a tray of sushi being like, oh, I'm so naughty. I'm the rock. Naughty boy. You know this. I know. Poor fish. I want to drink a bottle of this tequila that I own. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know how he does it. I mean, he's, he's pretty wild, but he's also so disciplined. Yeah. It's really crazy, you know, but it works for some people. Do you want to know what this married guy does in a cheat day? I'd love to. I'm married. I have a wife. He loses the ring. I'd love to. I have a wife. He loses the ring. That's your whole day. You post on Instagram. You go, it's a cheat day everyone. The ring's coming off. And then there's various selfies
Starting point is 00:31:52 of you and people that you're cheating with. It's awful. My wife's fine with it because, you know, I put it in the calendar. Yeah. She accepts it's a cheat day and it goes both ways. She'll hate this bit. Yeah. Oh no. It's all right. She doesn't listen to anything I do. Spaghetti and meatballs for me is like a cartoon food. Yes. Like I saw it in cartoons before I had it. Yeah. Like the dogs one where they pick on the same one and then they...
Starting point is 00:32:19 Yeah. Lady and the Tramp. Lady and the Tramp. The dogs one. The dogs one. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, stuff like that. Well, I was like, I want to eat that because it looks so delicious in the cartoons to get you meatballs. Maybe that's why as kids, because like, don't you remember like having to eat your vegetables and never wanting to,
Starting point is 00:32:35 and everyone's just trying because we don't see them in cartoons. Maybe that's, maybe that's the deal. Yeah, there's no like, like a cartoon dog eating a big plate of vegetables being like, oh, that's delicious. That might have changed things. If Lady in the's no like a cartoon dog eating a big plate of vegetables being like, oh, that's delicious. That might have changed things. If Lady and the Tramp were having a go at a big plate of broccoli. Yeah. It's just because broccoli is not a great tasting situation. Although, are you familiar with Wesley Two Scoops Berry?
Starting point is 00:32:59 No. So when I was a kid. And me. I was a kid too. Gladiators. You must be familiar with the show gladiators, the TV show gladiators, fantastic show, fantastic show. And we had over here as well. And there was a series where it was like the American gladiators and the UK gladiators
Starting point is 00:33:18 meet in and it was like this hyper, this big, like we're going to find who the ultimate champion is. And the American contestant was called Wesley two scoops Barry. And he was called two scoops because his mother would try and get into eat his broccoli when he was a kid. And she'd say just two more scoops. Which for me was always confusing. Cause I was like, you don't scoop broccoli, but I still like, I really liked Wesley two scoops, but he could jump over a car. Two cars, two cars end to end. Yeah. He had like a home VHS of him jumping over two cars and his mother always gave him two scoops of vegetables. Yeah. And that
Starting point is 00:33:51 made me want to eat vegetables. That's the first thing as a kid that made me want to eat vegetables is Wesley two scoops berry. Cause he was so great. That's why we need superheroes. Cause it's, it's especially when you're a kid, it's, it's all you look at yeah you know like the comic books and and all that I remember gladiators when I was growing up that's why also wrestling I was a big yeah big wrestling fan for the same reason you know I just loved I kept thinking that it would be so cool to walk into an arena with a song oh yeah yeah yeah yeah that was one of my favorite parts of like I didn't really watch rest things I didn't have the TV channels it was on but I knew what songs they walked onto.
Starting point is 00:34:27 Cause my friends had the music that they bought on CD. So I was listening to those all the time and playing them. Imagine him walking in. Yeah. I mean, I still, I still watch wrestling cause I'm essentially a 14 year old boy. And I still think about, wouldn't it be great to walk into a stadium to my, to my own music, even though he's a comedian and he can walk on stage. But then I just do comedy. I don't get to body slam anyone or anything.
Starting point is 00:34:51 You are a superhero as well. So you get to experience that. You've experienced a taste of that. Oh yeah, for sure. I mean, it's the most gratifying thing in the world. Like when you, you know, when you have like a kid that comes up to you and just like, is that our metal? You know, and you're like, yes, of course. But you know, it's just a camouflage now. That's good. And they're like, oh, interesting. That's good. Because like recently, as of, I don't know when this podcast actually gonna go out, but we lost Maggie Smith.
Starting point is 00:35:21 And someone told me a story about her when a kid who was a fan of Harry Potter went up to her and said, is it true that you can turn it to a cat? And she told the kid to pull themselves together. I've got more respect for that to be honest. She said pull yourself together. That's so funny. I would have, I still think of her as Wendy. Oh yeah. Remember that movie? Yeah, Hook.
Starting point is 00:35:42 Yeah, that movie I was obsessed with when I was a kid. Hook's so good. Because I really, I couldn't, you know, I'm like the whole concept of Peter Pan and this guy going back, it was just so great. Well that's come up on this podcast a few times. Because of Bangarang. That scene when they're eating, especially when there's nothing, it looks delicious. No, no, no, for sure. As a kid, all the colors and everything in there, you're like, what is that made of? Yeah, it's really did you ever want to eat play-doh when you're a kid? Yeah, big time. Me too. Yeah It would have loved to have eaten it look delicious Yeah
Starting point is 00:36:12 When I still see it i'm like oh you could squeeze it because it smells it it smells kind of nice as well Right. It smells like sort of clean and you do want to see what it tastes like There's flavors. We did a live tour of this podcast around the UK and we would ask the audiences their menus and read them out, they'd write them before we went on stage, we'd pick them out and read out the best ones. And one person for their dream drink said they would like the fruit shampoo they use, but it has to taste as good as it smells. And that got an applause from the entire room. The entire room was like, yeah, I want to drink my shampoo if it didn't.
Starting point is 00:36:44 That might say more about our listeners than the sort of UK populace as a whole. But yeah, a lot of shampoo drinkers listen. I think we pair nicely with some Play-Doh. The only thing I can think about with shampoo is that prank I've seen on YouTube at one point where there's, where they go around, there's a guy kind of washing his hair. He doesn't know that there's someone above him that keeps squeezing shampoo. He keeps trying to get the shampoo out. It's like a nightmare. You can't get it out of your, you know what I mean? It just keeps going.
Starting point is 00:37:14 Not saying that I'm going to watch it as soon as this is finished. You have to shampoo prank. I mean, it's just so, I feel like you guys would be great at pranks. We would be good at pranks. We love Jackass. We love Jackass. Steve,O was sitting in that seat. We've watched it since. But Steve-O, we had Steve-O in it.
Starting point is 00:37:31 What a voice, right? Yeah. Is it just specific, like, character? Oh my goodness. Yeah, yeah. Every time I'm watching anything with a man or whatever, my, my, fucking hell, what a Freudian slip. I was going to say my girlfriend, but I went to say my sister.
Starting point is 00:37:44 What do you think about that? Don't know what James about his cheat days. uh, fucking hell. What a Freudian slip. I was gonna say my girlfriend, but I went to say my sister. What do you think about that? Don't ask James about his cheat days. Anyway, my girlfriend always, if I'm watching the Steve O thing says from the other room, is that Whoopi Goldberg? When Steve O was on the podcast, we had loads of people saying he sounds exactly like Whoopi Goldberg. I never ever thought thought I never made that connection in my head until now. Maybe that's what I'll be doing after this going to see how that works. Get someone to send you and not label them properly clips of Whoopi and clips of Steve and you can see if you can work out the difference. Yeah I mean probably from what they're saying you better work out. Your dream side dish, Sebastian? Fries, definitely.
Starting point is 00:38:31 Always wins. Like really crispy fries, mashed potatoes. Oh, you could go for all the potatoes. We could get you a potato platter with all the different potatoes. I know. Are people like really, really specific, intricate with these? Because I still feel like there's a few that you don't That question right that everyone's like if you if you had your last meal, what would it be?
Starting point is 00:38:52 Like it's always just the most generic of stuff. I mean, yeah, at least for me, but yes it sometimes It's yeah It depends we've had guests on you're like I want this thing from this restaurant in this year and all yeah Wow, we have really like they it's just one specific thing they want and then obviously I think the answer is fries a lot of time because they're just everyone's favorite. Yeah. Yeah, it's not about you Yeah, it's got to be what you genuinely want to me as well Yeah, anyway anyone who comes on here and tries just to say stuff to be smart and try and go I'm gonna say what other people haven't said, we can see through that.
Starting point is 00:39:26 Exactly. I mean, like, you know. Gotta be honest, like that guy was to that blind squirrel. Simply going pumpkin seeds. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What? They are nice though, if you toast them up. They are actually.
Starting point is 00:39:38 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Do you want pumpkin seeds now? I do like pumpkin seeds. I never thought I would, but also if you put them in a butter lettuce salad with avocado. Well, you could have the butter lettuce salad also as your side dish. You can have some fries and some salad. I think we'd allow that to be more than one thing, you know. With pumpkin seeds. So you brought up the pumpkin seeds as a joke, but now you're having pumpkin seeds.
Starting point is 00:40:02 You know what else is really good? Yeah. Toasted pecans. I'd say they're my favorite nut when they're toasted. When they're toasted. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. They're different. They're just, they turn into almost like a sweet. They're like, they're so delicious. They're like almost dairy-like.
Starting point is 00:40:17 I agree, actually. They are the sweetest of the nuts. Raw pecans, I'm not interested. Shout out to the macadamia as well, if we're talking about the most delicious nuts. Roasted salted macadamias just cover me in them. Every time people say macadamia nut, I just think of that film Best in Show. Have you seen that? Great movie. I haven't seen in a while.
Starting point is 00:40:35 Christopher Guest is talking about his dog. He's called Harlan Pepper, the character. He says he used to be able to name every single type of nut that there was. He's just going like, casual nut. And then he goes, macadamia nut. He says, that's the one that would send my mother through the roof. I'm like, I always think of, if someone says macadamia nut, I just think about, because you're a guest
Starting point is 00:40:58 doing that character. He was so funny. He was so good. And also the one waiting for Goffman. Yeah. They're making a spinal tap too. You excited about that? Here's a very embarrassing thing.
Starting point is 00:41:09 I actually have never seen the first one. Wow. It's the one I have not seen that they're in. I mean- That's the one that everyone's seen who hasn't seen any of the others. Yeah, you've seen Waiting for Guffman and not spinal tap. You might be the only person who can say that.
Starting point is 00:41:20 That's bizarre. And it's Rob Reiner, right? Who did that, I think. Which is also crazy because he's done such eclectic different movies. But yeah. Well, that was during, I mean, that, that, that, that one of the films that he did around then is bananas.
Starting point is 00:41:32 Yeah. His spinal tap. I don't know if it's in this order. When Harry met Sally, a few good men. And then misery. Misery. Which is like. And Princess Bride.
Starting point is 00:41:42 Yeah. I think it's like five films in a row. All different, all completely different genres. Is there a director you'd really love to work with? I mean, I mean, hmm, that's really, it's kind of a harder question than I thought. I would always have said, you know, like Martin Scorsese, I mean, that it just feels crazy to me of like a world without him. I can't even picture it.
Starting point is 00:42:04 I feel the same way about Jack Nicholson. Like I'm like, I'm, cause these guys are so much older now. So I, it's really strange to watch them get older. Cause then I feel like, do you feel that way now? Like people we grew up with, when you see them older, like you feel your own age as well. You know, it's like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:20 I'm going through a phase of trying to watch all the Scorsese movies I've not seen. King of comedy. That's one of my favorite films ever. That one's so nuts. It's just incredible that film. It's so genuinely funny as well. It's one of the few people talk about like, when someone's doing standup comedy in a film,
Starting point is 00:42:33 it rarely works. His end monologue at the end of that that he does on Late Night is genuinely good. And I think the whole movie would fall apart if it wasn't. It's really hard to get that right in a film, I think. Speaking of food and Morris Grosezi movies, I actually feel like if you watch Morris Grosezi movies and anytime they have those big Italian dinners, you're always somehow hungry, like watching that.
Starting point is 00:42:56 You're like, oh, I want to have what they're having. I feel like any sort of mafia film or TV show, I'm rewatching The Sopranos at the moment. I'm putting on weight at the same time because I'm ordering cold cuts. I'm ordering, I'm ordering so much Gabagool and you know, I'm just eating it at the fridge like Tony. I'm breathing heavily through my nose.
Starting point is 00:43:17 I'm constantly in my dressing gown, but you've got it when you see it on the screen, you've got to have it. I'm ordering big subs, you know. I'm just picturing one day like your wife waking up and you're just in the kitchen and like, and like a tank top and like a kimono and shorts, just like eating a sandwich. And she's like, what are you doing? Yeah. She wouldn't be confused by that. She knows I'm rewatching the surprise. She knows that's what's happening. Yeah. It just looks like the gates flew away. Yeah. You're having a midlife crisis. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:45 Walking down to collect the paper at the end of the path, you know. I mean, I like that guy. Someone comes up to you and goes, excuse me, sir, do you know the time? No! No! Your dream drink. I think it's, it's a somewhere between a really chilled gin martini with a twist or a Negroni. Empress gin. That's a really good Empress gin. Also Empress gin with tonic is really good.
Starting point is 00:44:14 I know that's like gin and tonic is whatever, right? But that gin with the tonic is a really good drink. Made well. It's a completely new drink tonic. When someone makes you a proper good one, you are like, oh, okay, this is totally different to what I've been drinking. And it is just like spending a bit more time on it. And gin having like the gin having a bit more flavor to it rather than just like bog standard gin. Yeah, and this one sort of turns purple
Starting point is 00:44:39 when you pour it in there. It's very, that also gives it a little effect, but for some reason it just complements it well that's crazy it turns purple yeah how does that happen i don't know i'm across the side so someone did that and you didn't know it's going to happen and you saw it turn purple did it remind you of thanos and you got angry oh i thought you were going to say New Year's Eve. No, no. What are you like? Thanos. That motherfucker. You've got to still be mad at that guy. No, I don't.
Starting point is 00:45:08 Yeah, I don't think about it as much as you think. I would if it happened to me. I would if it happened to me, I'd think about Thanos all the time. You got snapped. You were the ones, you got dusted. I know. I'm fucking furious at that guy.
Starting point is 00:45:20 I know. Well, it was amazing how well that villain was. In a way, he actually was, you know, he was having kind of his own middle life crisis and then turned on the world. Yeah, there were levels. There were levels to that. What do you think that was like for your character? Obviously a lot of characters happened to, but you're there. You've been in Wakanda fighting and then you feel a bit, oh, feel a bit shitty. And then suddenly you're on this massive, you're in a completely different place. Do you think at some point you had to like get yourself, Bucky had to get himself together and be like okay fuck it, it's a different battle now. And a load of shit's happening, I'll get caught up on it
Starting point is 00:45:54 later. Or was Bucky like, guys please catch me up on what's been happening because like I can't just go into this fight not knowing. I can't know what's going on. I think, I think the minute he's so used to fighting an enemy is that the minute he sees it, it's like right back in it. But the version you described would have been, I think, more cinematic. Wait, time out. What the fuck is happening around here? I wanted to go to the bathroom and I came back and like everything's a different
Starting point is 00:46:26 world. Yeah, because they even knew this was like a different Thanos from a different time and the Thor's already cut the other guy's head off. Yeah. But actually this is someone else from a different time, but we still need to get, we kind of messed up with the time travel thing and just, or whether it's like we'll catch you up later, but the baddies are the same ones as before. I feel like you've thought about this more than anyone else on the planet. No way, man.
Starting point is 00:46:46 It's interesting though. That movie does spiral down a rabbit hole. You find yourself kind of going and asking different things because once the time thing gets flipped, anything is possible. You know, it's like we can all keep doing what we're doing, but then, um, Dr. Strange can turn back time. Like I mean, what you can't fuck with that. I mean, that's just-
Starting point is 00:47:07 Yeah, that's why it's very important that he doesn't have that stone anymore. If he did every movie, he'd just be like, yeah, there you go. Yeah, yeah, yeah. One twist. I would like to see like a caper film with him where he's just fucking around with time for a laugh. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:21 He keeps going back in time to the same spot over and over again. We had a cartoon here when we were kids called Bernard's watch. You familiar with Bernard's watch? No. It was good. But it's really good. It was good. But like everyone had the kind of same problem with it. But like it was, it was a little kid and he had a watch that could stop time, but he could just walk around and do whatever. So everything would freeze. The only British thing that I remember when I was very, very little is a very controversial show called Benny Hill. He should never be in possession of Bernard's watch.
Starting point is 00:47:53 No, because it was Benny's watch. It would be a very different show. He causes enough trouble when when times moving normally, right? Chasing those poor ladies around the trees and stuff. We do the music. It does blow my mind that Benny Hill was such a big export across the Atlantic. That that was the thing. It's weird. Yeah. I remember just growing up and that scene,
Starting point is 00:48:11 that show when I was little and then Beverly Hills, 90210. Strangely and Baywatch. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know, like they were massive in Europe. Yeah. The two representations of different cultures, Benny Hill and Baywatch. Yeah. For Benny Hill. I could have done a crossover episode where Benny's chasing the ladies, but it's all in slow motion. Yeah. Or the beginning of the Baywatch titles at the beginning, but with the Benny Hill music in the background. Oh yeah, that'd be good. Cadbury chocolate. Cadbury chocolate? Yeah. Oh yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:42 It's such a thing, isn't it? It's good stuff. Well, American chocolate is shit. You know what the idea is? Maybe wrap up to that slowly before. Okay. Well, Hershey's is the worst thing I've ever tasted. No, no, no. You can't compare those, but Tony's chocolate is this new, it's fairly new, right? Yeah. From Holland. Yeah. Unbelievable. Also they, because of all of the, they're not like solid standard chunks in the bar You end up breaking off a bit to be like I'll just have a bit but it comes off at a weird angle and you break It's another bit. You always see and there's half. It's just gone. Yeah, did it you remember Kinder eggs? Yeah. Yeah Yeah, yeah, those are great
Starting point is 00:49:19 Crack that thing open a little astronaut would come out. Yeah, just there was or it'd be like a stupid one You'd be like a stupid one. You'd be like, no, I got to get another one. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There was a period of time where it was always a little like China terrapin, um, like playing the pan pipes or like with a surf board. There's other different terrapins. That was when I got into Kinder eggs. That was your favorite era of kinder. I wanted to get all the terrapins that you got in the Kinder eggs. I've got a few of them. It was a great, brilliant idea.
Starting point is 00:49:44 Whoever invented the Kinder eggs. Yeah. Yeah. few of them. It was a great, brilliant idea. Whoever invented the Kinder eggs. Yeah. The toys came in phases like Marvel, didn't they? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, yeah. Now if they were still, I mean, I think they still do Kinder surprises, but they're not
Starting point is 00:49:54 as popular that Marvel would consider doing a crossover with them. Right. Yeah. That would be like the pinnacle of your career, right? If someone said we're going to do you and a Kinder egg from any film you've been in. Yeah. That would be like, I made it. Yeah. I guess it would probably be marvelous. I don't think it'd be the cannibal in the kinder egg or you as Tommy Lee.
Starting point is 00:50:13 It just ends up being a mistake. I mean, by someone just does one. Yeah. Randomly. So I'd buy the Tommy Lee kinder egg. Yeah. 100%. It's as nasty as Tommy Lee in the kinder egg. Yeah. I mean, what would that even look like? It depends. What just be part of the story? One drumstick. I'd recognize him on naked attraction straight away. Tommy Lee.
Starting point is 00:50:32 Yeah. Yeah. Tommy Lee on naked attraction. Surely it would come up for everyone else. It's just the feet, but Tommy. Yeah. Acas powers the world's best podcasts. Here's a show that we recommend.
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Starting point is 00:51:21 wherever you get your podcasts. Acast helps creators launch, grow, and monetize their podcasts everywhere. Acast.com. Your dream dessert, Sebastian, we've just been talking a bit about chocolate and we've kind of like stumbled into the desserts already. Your eyes really lit up when you're talking about chocolate. In the US there's something called Jenny's ice cream. I don't know why it's phenomenal.
Starting point is 00:51:49 It's the best ice cream I've had. Do you guys have good ice cream here? Yeah, well, yes we do, but I wouldn't say it's like UK brand. So I mean, if I go out, I'm going to get Ben and Jerry's. So we've got a lot of the same brands that you would have and then there's a lot of good ice cream places. But when we go to the States, that's when we're excited to have ice cream. You'll text me pictures of ice cream from America. Yeah. And especially like they've got, you know, you've got so many flavors of Ben and Jerry's that we don't have.
Starting point is 00:52:18 So that's my first port of call. Once when you, when, you know, before we started recording today, you were saying like, come in and work here. And and when you arrive you're a bit jet-lagged I arrived in Canada once I had a gig that night I was meant to do a show that night but I missed the show because I'd gone out got a tub of Ben and Jerry's that you can't get here and halfway through just passed out because of the sugar high I was just I was jet-lagged but also was just so into eating this Ben and Jerry's it Put me into this like hibernation State and I just I just that was it and I woke up the gig had already been and gone
Starting point is 00:52:51 Yeah, I had the multiple texts on my phone for the promoters and everyone I just bed and Jerry's tub in my hand and a Spoon in the other just on my bed. That's one of the most terrifying things It's like when you wake up and like you see your phone's just been going or something and people have been trying to get You know reach you for whatever reason. I yes, but I Speaking of pranks, it's so silly. There's another one. I saw recently On YouTube and it's like it's really bad. Like these guys clearly have known each other for a long time I don't even know what it's called But like they they like got together got together and they had a celebration night,
Starting point is 00:53:28 taking shots and hanging out and all this stuff. The next day, the guy, one of them wakes up and he's strapped to a hospital bed and he doesn't know how he got there. And they're like, you've been in a coma for 10 years. And his friend comes in in prosthetics, having gained weight. And he's like, you have a son and I've been taking care of him. And he's just, it's terrifying, honestly, but it's horrifically funny. And he, you know,
Starting point is 00:53:59 it's like, he just doesn't know what to do with it. Like, yeah. Yeah. But I didn't know you liked pranks so much. They are good. Prank's a great. I think, yeah. I mean, you have to, you know, you want to be safe. I'm not like, but like, it is funny sometimes. I mean, I think you gotta keep surprising yourself and your friends, you know?
Starting point is 00:54:19 It's like, it's fun to do that. Have you ever played a prank on anyone that's like, that you're particularly proud of? Yeah. Yeah. It's fun to do that. Have you ever played a prank on anyone that's like, that you're particularly proud of? Yeah. It's so stupid, but I have a friend who, like he always manages, he can fall asleep anytime. I saw him fall asleep in the middle of a nightclub. Like he took a nap and like came back
Starting point is 00:54:41 and was like right back as if he got reinvigorated. And I would be so jealous of him because I'd be like How do you do it? How do you just fall asleep falls asleep very easily all the time? so one time he was staying over he lives in LA came to New York and he was crashing over my house and And he fell asleep and I took headphones And I put it over his head over his ears and I plugged it into like the fucking speakers and I went and researched T-Rex like the dinosaur in Jurassic Park when like at the very end where he's like and the thing falls or whatever and I
Starting point is 00:55:21 cranked that up and I just press play, just trying to wake him up and all I got was just this one quick, like little King two. It's almost more satisfying than him completely terrified, just very lazily just going, Hey man, I'm like, well, God forbid there's ever a fire or anything. You're in the house. That will never make it. That's what he'd be like after the blip though. If he got snapped by Thanos. Yeah, he'd just be like right back in hey, okay, cool Okay, okay was a different battlefield, but I'm pretty much got my bearings. Yeah, I've just been napping again
Starting point is 00:55:57 Yeah, this is like in a totally different city doesn't recognize it So is Jenny's ice cream your dream dessert or I'll put that one out there because maybe if someone does go to America they'll remember that one and they'll try it. What's the best flavor of Jenny's? Oh man there's like a peanut butter chocolate one there is kind of like a chocolate chip rocky road situation there's like a one with like a brownie swirl. I love all that some Some people are like, Oh, I only like, I want just like one flavor of ice cream, just like plain like vanilla. I want just throw everything in there. I want chunks. Yeah. I don't, I don't know about the vanilla
Starting point is 00:56:36 one time only. Yeah. Just these people are being contrary. I don't get it. Just for the sake of it. Right. Pretending they got sophisticated palettes, but they're boring as hell. Yeah. I try not to like, you know, rise to it, but whenever someone is just like, I'm just gonna get a scoop of vanilla. I was like, are you, you know, we're out of nice cream
Starting point is 00:56:52 It seems like such a waste of, it's a waste of opportunity. That's how it feels. Yeah. Because it's like, if you're gonna do it, you might as well go for it. Yeah. You're not even getting your bang for your buck, right?
Starting point is 00:57:03 Like it's like, it's, I wanted to make some analogy that I'm too tired today. But yeah, I think we know what we're saying. I feel like we should like plan a prank to do on one of your, like maybe we could get Anthony Mackie and we could assist you in pranking him. No, absolutely. Well, if we do have him on this podcast, cause you said he'd be really good. If we do manage to book him for this podcast, we're happy to prank him on your behalf. If you do, yes. I mean, then maybe you need to email me and I'll have to figure out how to do it. But just keep pouring shampoo on him.
Starting point is 00:57:36 Does that work if it's not in the show? And he can see us. Does that work? No, maybe not. We gotta think. We gotta think somehow. But it's possible. I mean, he would, he'll get me back. Or he'll try to get me back. If he gets angry at the prank, you have to admit that you were involved in it.
Starting point is 00:57:58 Because if we go, oh no, it was Sebastian, and then you deny all knowledge of it. It would be like, imagine to do this this podcast he has to drive like 45 minutes to a warehouse somewhere in like South London and it's just in the dark and you guys are sitting there with my candlelight. If it's in a warehouse he should open the door and it should be full of people and then he realizes it's the rap battle from 8 Mile. And we set him up. You've got to do it again. And he's got to go up. He's got to go up there. We could get Eminem.
Starting point is 00:58:29 Then you could join in as well. Your surname's Stan. Yeah. You could get up. You've written Eminem, those are the letters. Actually, that's when you and Mackie would join forces shortly. Because you both hate Eminem. You're Stan and the guy that he beat in the rap battle.
Starting point is 00:58:42 By the way, do you remember that movie? How good that was? Yeah, it was incredible that film. And also, thank you for reminding me, he is in that film. He's great in it. He's great in it. He's in so many good movies, actually.
Starting point is 00:58:54 But like- That doesn't matter, we're gonna prank the fuck out of this guy. We're gonna prank him so hard. But that would be, it would be funny. Like he's just, he thinks he's going to a podcast, but it's a rave. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's just waiting for him. He's got, he thinks he's going to a podcast, but it's a rave. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's just waiting for him.
Starting point is 00:59:06 And he's got, I mean, hopefully cause like today and, and, uh, you know, this is a trick of the trade that I didn't know. But like someone arrived before you who's called a go ahead, right. Who kind of turns up here first. Oh, which is this has happened sometimes if people are like, you know, have busy schedules and they're going from one place to the other. So if Mackie, I would worry that a go ahead and arrive there and text them and go, this is a fucking raid. This is not a podcast. They're setting you up for a prank. I think
Starting point is 00:59:32 Sebastian stands behind it. You do not come here, Anthony. It just goes to, it's like, I'm just recreating that movie, the game on him. He's involved in high speed chase all the way to Mexico. Yeah, just goes on and off I always thought it'd be funny to do like a movie about Actors that take the roles to like oh, yeah next level. Yeah, you know, but you go really extreme I still think there's like maybe you and him should join forces and prank Eminem I think that is a you know as much as I'd like to why do I feel like that would fail? Yeah I don't know. Well, I'm never not you never know what mood Eminem is gonna be is, you know, as much as I'd like to... Why do I feel like that would fail? Yeah, I don't think that would go well.
Starting point is 01:00:05 You'd get him. You never know what mood Eminem's gonna be in. But you know, you can get him. The two of you join forces. I could also see him just unfazed. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Like the same stoic face, no emotion, and just walk out.
Starting point is 01:00:20 I've never seen him like giggling in an interview. I don't feel like he would like chuckle at a prank. Yeah. Me neither. To be fair. I'm going to read your menu back to you now. See how you feel about it. You would like sparkling water. You would like naan for pop and arms or bread. You would like anchovies on toast from Via Corota in New York. Main course you want spaghetti and meatballs, a side dish of fries and butter lettuce salad drink and empress gin martini with a twist and dessert you would like Jenny's ice cream, a bunch of different scoops. We kind of like, we, we shouted out a few, the brownie swirl, the peanut butter chocolate, I'm all in a bowl together. I mean, one doesn't or shouldn't survive that meal.
Starting point is 01:01:08 Sounds good though, right? It does. Does it sound good hearing it back? Yeah, I mean, honestly, if that was the way to go, that would be, I think, okay. We're going to go and plan this prank, but thank you so much for coming to the Dream Restaurant. You guys are amazing. Thank you Sebastian.
Starting point is 01:01:31 Thank you so much to Sebastian for coming on the Off Menu podcast. He loves pranks. He loves pranks. That's the main thing that I felt like, you know, no one else has found that out in an interview with Sebastian Stan so far. I'm starting to think we should do another podcast about pranks. Well, maybe a YouTube series where we prank people. Cause look, he enjoyed food and he enjoyed talking about food. I really liked Sebastian. I thought it was a fun interview, but he really came alive when we
Starting point is 01:01:55 started talking about pranks. Yeah. He liked pranks a lot. Um, and remembering pranks he had seen. And so like, I think that maybe that's one where we do like just people's favorite pranks Yeah, so rather than pranking people we talk about pranks that they love or I'd go and watch a feature-length film where it's just Sebastian Stan dramatically describing pranks he'd seen or
Starting point is 01:02:16 Recreating pranks that you've seen. Yeah, remember there's that film. Is it called active active active violence? Hmm I think there's a film where they get these warlords to recreate Horrific things that they did. Yeah, and then by the end they've actually you know Confronted with the reality of what they've done for the first time. That's not gonna happen with Stan. Maybe Sebastian Stan recreates pranks He's not gonna be confronted by the horror of the pranks. He's gonna love the pranks even more I can't stress enough because you're listening to this. Yeah, how excited he was to talk about the pranks
Starting point is 01:02:51 Yeah, it was beautiful. We're gonna get Mackie on this pod. You know Mackie on the pod whether we'll prank him or not Remains to be seen or let him secret ingredient mac and cheese. Thank you days's. Mackey D's. That's good. Although if he listens to this episode now, which he could because we just talked to his buddy. Yeah. He'll know the secret ingredient when he's on. He's not going to listen to this. I don't think Mackey might listen to this.
Starting point is 01:03:14 He'd be surprised. We should also say that Sebastian is playing Donald Trump in The Apprentice, which, you know, it's just been the US election, James. So it's crazy that we didn't mention that to him. But to be fair, we got waylaid with pranks. Yeah, it was not crazy because we actually did it ages ago. And he was promoting a different film. Yes.
Starting point is 01:03:34 And now because of the schedule that's coming out now and we look crazy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But we're not the crazy ones. No, we're not the crazy. Well, if anything, Donald Trump is the crazy one. Yes. And put that out, Benito. Don't edit that out.
Starting point is 01:03:44 I know you love Trump. Don't edit it out. Don't edit it out, Benito. Keep it in there. Donald Trump, you crazy one. Yes. And put that out Benito, don't edit that out. I know you love Trump. Don't edit it out. Don't edit it out Benito. Keep it in there Donald Trump, you're crazy. We're recording this now before the US elections because I'm going away. So we don't know who's won yet, but you're listening to it the day after. Yeah. So you know who won and so help me God, better not be the crazy guy. Benito, take off that MAGA hat. Take off that MAGA hat right this instant. This is what you get when you make us record something about your beloved Trump Apprentices in cinemas now. The monkeys are in charge of the bus. The monkeys are in charge of the bus. Hashtag. Sebastian did not say winter peas either. No he did not say winter peas. That's good We had some butter lettuce. Some butter lettuce which I was unfamiliar with. Yeah
Starting point is 01:04:22 That was exciting, but that's as close as we got to Winterpeace. There weren't any Winterpeace there. There was going to be some more butter lettuce chat, I think, but then Sebastian remembered a prank. Yeah. Yeah. Then pranks come into things and we've talked about pranks for a while. So I wish you guys could see Benito when we work with him. Yeah. Yeah. He, he hates working with us. He hates it. Benito sits there behind his laptop, just staring
Starting point is 01:04:45 ahead, looking like he's just praying for the sweet release of death. You're a thinker. He's a thinker is what his first time someone's labeled him as a thinker. Yeah. And that was a very nice way of saying this guy is zoned out. This guy looks sad. This guy looks sad and like he's not listening to what's going on in the room. And he wants to be at home with his And like he's not listening to what's going on in the room, and he wants to be at home with his partner and his dog Yeah Look go and see a different man is in cinemas now get yourself along to watch it
Starting point is 01:05:13 Thank you so much Sebastian for coming to the dream restaurant. He'll be listening to this Yeah, also he was jet lagged and I feel like you know when you do something when you're jet lagged Yeah, and it doesn't feel quite real. It's almost like a dream like thing Yeah, that chat would surely be something in a few days. He's going to be like, did I do that? Yeah. Did that, did one of them at one point go off on a story that went nowhere about an Australian man in Japan talking to a fake flying squirrel in a backpack about what toppings he likes on his pizza? I love that story. I don't think that's the last time we're going to hear that story. No, I think about it a lot. Me and my girlfriend talked about it afterwards, how when we're
Starting point is 01:05:48 on those kinds of things, guided tours or whatever, we both do this where instead of getting invested in the information we're being told and all the new things we're learning, we get invested in the tour guide and who they are as a person. And we start thinking about like what their life is like How they got into all this if they're enjoying this what they think of the group. Yeah, all that sort of stuff so when that guy did the the little skit with the Yeah, flying squirrel in the backpack and was talking to it and saying he wants to know what toppings are for my pizza I told it I like pineapple. Oh, he doesn't like he won't come out the back because I have pineapple on my pizza
Starting point is 01:06:24 I was like, this is an interesting fella. I want to know more about this guy. I had a Uber driver yesterday who put on Waze, you know, that app that tells you where to go. But he had one of the novelty voices on it. I was playing really loudly and I don't know what it was. But the voice is a lady's voice that started by saying, hello, Scorpio. We are about to, we are about to undertake a long and arduous journey.
Starting point is 01:06:52 We will be changed by the end of this. And it'd be like left, take the next left. Rich's lie down that path. Wow. But he's not reacting to it. He's just following the directions. And me and Charlie are sat in the back just fucking killing ourselves laughing, texting each other going, hello Scorpio. He's used to it. Yeah, yeah. But it was like a sexy voice as well. It was like,
Starting point is 01:07:14 this has been very intimate. It's kept saying that. That's great. What did it say at the end when he reached his destination? Oh, I don't know. I think we got out by then, but he's getting off with it by the end of it. He's also, he was a great guy as well. Cause we went under a tunnel and the bike went past the delivery bike went past and he lost it laughing. Really? He was going, ah, the person is waiting for their food and they're under under the water. He's calling them up going, do you want some fish? We got to get, we got to get this guy on the podcast. We got to get him on. Do you want any fish? We got to get this guy on the podcast. We got to get him on.
Starting point is 01:07:47 Do you want any fish? He kept saying, talk to him about delivery. I know you ordered a burger, but I got you some fish. Cause I went under the water to get it. He was laughing so much. I like it. That is funny to imagine that that's what happens. I'm still on tour doing Hot Niggity Dog.
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