Off Menu with Ed Gamble and James Acaster - Ep 275: Harris Dickinson

Episode Date: January 22, 2025

The Dream Restaurant has opened its doors for series 13, and our first guest of 2025 is Bafta-nominated actor and star of ‘Babygirl’ and ‘Triangle of Sadness’, Harris Dickinson. Harris Dickins...on stars in ‘Babygirl’ which is in cinemas now. Follow Harris on Instagram @harrisdickinsonOff Menu is a comedy podcast hosted by Ed Gamble and James Acaster.Recorded and edited by Ben Williams for Plosive.Artwork by Paul Gilbey (photography and design).Follow Off Menu on Twitter and Instagram: @offmenuofficial.And go to our website www.offmenupodcast.co.uk for a list of restaurants recommended on the show.Watch Ed and James's YouTube series 'Just Puddings'. Watch here. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello, it's Ed Gamble here, co-host of the Off Menu podcast that you're listening to right now. Just to let you know, if you're a listener from Australia or New Zealand, I am coming probably near to you at some point in April or May. I'm going to be in Melbourne, Perth, Brisbane, Sydney, Christchurch, Auckland, Wellington. I will be touring, doing my show Hot Diggity Dog near you in 2025. Come along and see me, edgamble.co.uk, for tickets. Hot Diggity Dog near you in 2025. Come along and see me at gamble.co.uk for tickets. Hot diggity dog! Thank you, James.
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Starting point is 00:02:49 ["The Off Menu Podcast Theme"] Welcome to the Off Menu Podcast, taking the risotto rice of conversation, shaping it into balls of friendship, coating in the breadcrumbs of humor and deep frying in the oil of the internet. It's an arancini cast, James. Thought he was going to go risotto. Yeah. Because risotto rice. And then it turns out you're doing arancini.
Starting point is 00:03:21 I should have said just risotto, really. And that would have given you more of a clue rather than risotto rice. That was clever though. Yeah, thanks man. That's a gamble. He's very clever. My name is James A. Castor. Together we own a dream restaurant,
Starting point is 00:03:32 and every single week we're inviting a guest, and we ask them their favorite ever star and make us dessert, side dish and drink. Not in that order. And this week, our guest is Harris Dickinson. Harris Dickinson, a wonderful actor, James. Yes, a wonderful actor to kick off the new series.
Starting point is 00:03:46 The new series. Of off menu episode one. We love Harris Dickinson. I'm probably going to fanboy out a little bit because there's a lot of films that he's done in recent years. Triangle of Sadness, Scrapper, Iron Claw. Love Iron Claw. Baby Girl, I saw just last night. I mean, very excited to have him on and ask him about all of these films If I if I may in amongst the food chat, yes, but yeah, he's one of our finest actors Absolutely, and he's it's gonna go from strength to strength for him. I think yes. Yeah, this is the thing now That's where all industry heads we can spot we can we can spot a future megastar what they've already become big
Starting point is 00:04:22 Yeah, when they're already in huge films. Yeah Got it future megastar. When they've already become big. Yeah. When they're already in huge films. And we've already got it. But listen, we love Harris. Mescal was nothing when we had him on. Huh? Mescal was nothing. Yeah. Mescal. He, he hadn't even been nominated for an Oscar yet.
Starting point is 00:04:35 Yeah, exactly. He'd just won a BAFTA award too. Now listen, if Harris picks the secret ingredient, an ingredient which we deemed to be unacceptable and we've pre-agreed on it, then we will kick Harris out of the dream restaurant. Yes. With a heavy heart. And today the secret ingredient is... Baby Belle.
Starting point is 00:04:54 Baby Belle. He's in Baby Girl, which is in cinemas now. Yep. If you say Baby Girl quick enough. Quick enough, it sounds like it. Someone might go, did you just say baby girl? Yeah, can I have a baby girl please? I want to get the baby girl.
Starting point is 00:05:12 You want a baby girl? This is a cinema sir. This is not stupid like it. You want waxed little individually wax coated cheeses? There's never a situation where you'd ask for a baby bell I don't think. You're picking it up off a shelf or you've got it in your house. You're getting that little net bag of them. Yeah. That weird little net bag. Maybe if you're at home and the person you live with goes to the kitchen you might go, oh while
Starting point is 00:05:36 you're in there grab me a baby. No you wouldn't. Grab me a baby bell. Even if they're in the other room you wouldn't ask someone to grab you a baby bell. Bring it in. Oh I guess a baby bell. I love that advert when we were kids when it was rolling away from the person. Yeah bouncing off. It looked so great how it bounced. That looks delicious even though it's still in the wax and it's bouncing on the floor. Even though it had a little personality. Yeah yeah yeah yeah made me want to eat it. Reminds me of the film rubber. Rubber? Yeah or rubber? No rubber. Oh the tire that kills people. yeah I went to
Starting point is 00:06:06 see that in Birmingham I remember yeah the cinema that's near the where they put you up in the glee for the glee club that's I mean not all of you are gonna understand why a very exciting way to kick off the new series though Ed I'm very excited about yes me too we should get into it okay this is the off menu menu of Harris Dickinson. Welcome Harris to the dream restaurant. Thank you. Welcome Harris Dickinson to the dream restaurant.
Starting point is 00:06:38 We've been here for some time. Very loud, Jeannie, this morning. Very lovely. Maintain the eye contact for the whole thing. Yeah. I don't often do that. Thataintain eye contact for the whole thing. Yeah. I don't often do that. That was full on. A little bit uncomfortable for me.
Starting point is 00:06:48 You were right in the eye when I was doing that. Yeah. Thanks, mate. So nice to be here, guys. Thank you. It's lovely to have you here. May I get a few things out of the way before we begin? We'd love you to.
Starting point is 00:06:56 Yeah. Firstly, I'm deeply grateful to be here. I'm a big fan and I did ask to come on this full transparency because I like it and I like you guys but also I have some some apologies to make so to speak or some air to clear with you Ed. Oh really? Yes. Oh wow. That's great. We got beef and I didn't realise. No it's not. It's sort of just a lie on my part. Years ago, I don't know if you remember, you were doing stand up at Up The Creek. Yes, many times. Yeah, many times.
Starting point is 00:07:34 Yeah, many times. Or maybe you weren't doing it, you were like in between introducing, what's that called? I'm saying like, yeah, comparing. Comparing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. One of the best compares in the bit. You used to compare Up The Creek a lot, so this all checks out so far. We'll bring you the butcher for that.
Starting point is 00:07:47 Shout out to him. And so I went, you know, just plodded along with a mate. There I am, you know, having a good time. What's happened here? Yeah. This normally ends with me calling someone a paedophile. It's along those lines. You picked me out and you asked, you were like, you there chap, what do you do? And I panicked.
Starting point is 00:08:05 I wouldn't have said chap. You would have said something like, you would have said, this fine gentleman here on the front row. You said, you there peasant boy on the front row. No, you said, hey mate, what do you do? I said, oh, I panicked and I said, I work at the the Jammie Dodger factory. Oh God. And...
Starting point is 00:08:23 I would have torn you a new one for saying that. You did, you did, you did. But I think I had a little bit of conviction because you said okay, well, right, and I went on a bit of a story and you and you believed it. Yeah, yeah. Maybe you did, maybe you didn't. And then after, you went off and then you came back on and you said, so Harris, where is the Jammie Dodger factory? And I said, it's just outside London. You said, so Harris, where is the Jammie Dodger factory? And I said, it's just outside London. You said, oh, that's convenient because it's in Wales, you liar. You went away, Google did. Yeah, yeah, I would have done.
Starting point is 00:08:56 So you had me. Yeah, got you. I mean, this is it. You should know by now, if you're researching a role, you need to do the full. I know. So I just want to apologize really for my lack of research and lying. Yeah, yeah. That's good. Wow. I don't remember that particular incident, but that all checks out. And I want you to apologize.
Starting point is 00:09:15 I love that. I'm sorry for not leaving you alone just to have a nice evening and enjoy yourself and back you into a quarter and have to say you work in the Jammie Dodger factory. Thanks mate. So you didn't want to say actor to him because then he would definitely destroy you. I just felt like a tit. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:29 Get you for that. Yeah. So you went Jammie Dodger factory. Surely that's funny. Yeah. And also it was a long time ago and I hadn't really worked yet. So I didn't want to be like actor. You know, I was like, I'm not working a hotel.
Starting point is 00:09:37 I would have torn you apart if you'd said actor as well. Yeah. What you been in mate? Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Nothing. Do you mean that's the first time that one of us has spoke to an audience member and then that audience member has ended up on our podcast.
Starting point is 00:09:49 That's insane when you think about it. Yeah, I think so. That's crazy. This is somebody who's said to your work at the Jammie Dodger factory, you went off research to it, went back on and shamed them, ruined their night. Yeah. Got in their head for years. It's taken me years to go over it.
Starting point is 00:10:03 What's great about this is now you're a very successful actor with a number of lead roles in brilliant films and I'm doing up the creek next week. It's a good venue. It is a good venue. Yeah, it is a really good venue. No, but you were lovely. You were great. Just to clarify.
Starting point is 00:10:18 You were. I'm glad I wasn't too mean. You were very nice. Yeah. You can't be very mean. I'm sorry. Yeah. I'm sorry about that. But at least
Starting point is 00:10:25 you kept it on food. You know, straight away you were Jammy Dodger. That's like, do you like Jammy Dodgers? I think I said to you, you said, what do you do there? I said, I put the jam in the Dodger. Yeah. That's good stuff. I would have enjoyed that. Okay. Yeah. Come on. You can't be angry about that. Why are you so mean to people? I wasn't! It's clear that we had quite a fun show. You showed horrible in that story. Yeah. You come off really bad.
Starting point is 00:10:51 Yeah, you were cool, man. You were cool. You were cool. You put the jam in the dodger. Yeah. That's fun. That is fun. It's a noble job.
Starting point is 00:11:00 It's a comedy night, mate. People are there about funny. You're destroying him over... Yeah, I know. I would have been in a bad mood or something. I'm sorry. You're getting stuck up, hung up on geography where you can have a whimsical. It must be fun to roast people. Yeah. Now and again.
Starting point is 00:11:13 For him. Now and again. He loves it. You love it. I've seen you do it well too. I never roast him. The thing is if I roast someone, I come off stage and go, what a great night. If he roasts someone, he comes off stage and he goes, oh, I'm depressed.
Starting point is 00:11:24 Yeah, I do. Do you sort of lay in bed thinking about it? Huh? Do you not lay around thinking about it? I go home on the train going like, man, that was a human being. What the fuck is your problem? What are you doing, mate? They deserve that. And I don't see them as human beings. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He doesn't. He goes home and he just laughs.
Starting point is 00:11:40 I see them as little dollies for my pleasure. Yeah. He does. Speaking of seeing people as dollies for your pleasure, Baby Girl is out now. No, that's not what it's about. It's a brilliant film. I saw it last night. Benito went to see it as well and has already told you that when the certificate came up on the screen and said there'd be sex in it, the whole cinema whooped.
Starting point is 00:12:00 I think people know about this film anyway, because everyone's talking about it. Everyone's very excited about this film. I don't know how much to say about it, because I don't want to give stuff away or get into like, also it's not really what we normally talk about in the podcast is sex. No, but I think what's interesting about the film is, and the way that our director, Helena, has chosen to tell the story is that it's not an explicit film. It really isn't. And it explores sex and power dynamics and what it means to really hold your desires
Starting point is 00:12:30 so close that liberation is so far away. With Nicole's character and my character, we meet each other in an office. I'm an intern, she's the CEO of this company. And what's so interesting is that we get to see two people performing a little bit with each other and figuring out their roles in a strange sort of dynamic and you know I don't know what it is whether it's a relationship or an affair but I think the comedy was always important to it because it's like awkward and embarrassing to play into these roles during sex. I like it for that reason. I like that the most erotic thing is probably the milk or the, you know, it's not the actual sex scenes, which I think
Starting point is 00:13:11 we've seen enough of in film, like these sort of perfectly erotic sex scenes shot in a very sensual way, you know. I think if anything, the film counters that a little bit, you know. Do you know what the milk's about, Ed? No, I don't know what the milk's about. I've not seen it yet. Sorry. Yeah. I mean, he asks Nicole to drink milk.
Starting point is 00:13:30 Well, he sends it over in a bar. Sends it over. Yeah. She's there. There's loads of colleagues around. No one knows what's going on. They haven't even started doing anything yet. This guy sends a glass of milk over.
Starting point is 00:13:40 He's just looking at her and she drinks it and he says, good girl. Afterwards. Wow. You worry people are people gonna start sending you milk now when you're in bars? I saw that I thought he's gonna get milk sent to him. Do people do milk in bars though is that a common... They'll bring milk along. For white Russians. They know you're there. There's always milk kicking around. That's true. I'm more worried people are gonna start sending you Jammie Dodgers in bars to be honest. Bring them on. Both. Bring them on. Dunkin, yeah, perfect. Played a lot right, do your hands actually. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:08 Do you want during your dream meal, we can send some milk over to you. No thank you. You don't want that? No thank you, it seems like you'd like a glass of milk. I'd love one. You're a real milk drinker I reckon. I had a glass of milk yesterday,
Starting point is 00:14:20 but it was before the film. Adult man. I wouldn't point that out. But he was looking horrified. Yeah, adult man, you should not be drinking a glass of milk. What are you talking about? Good for you. Little mummy's out. But he has to get horrified. Yeah, adult man, you should not be drinking a glass of milk. What are you talking about? Good for you. Little mummy's boy.
Starting point is 00:14:27 Not sucking on my mummy's teeth. But that's what it represents. It does not represent that. Boiled down. That's not relevant. When you really dig down into it. Does not represent sucking on your mummy's teeth. I think it might a little bit.
Starting point is 00:14:40 You know what it's like to be on the receiving end of this. He's shifting the focus, I respect it. Yeah, sure. He's converted. Just normal milk. Semi skimmed. Glasses semi skimmed yesterday. And then I went to see the film.
Starting point is 00:14:55 I wouldn't have had it after the film. Yeah, people are asking me about the milk. Yeah, I don't know, man. What do you say? It's very difficult. Strange interactions. I think that's the good thing about being an actor is that you don't know man, what do you say? It's very difficult, strange interactions. I think that's the good thing about being an actor is that you don't have to tell them anything. Yes.
Starting point is 00:15:10 Because you just go, well, it's the film. Yes, yes, not me. That's what you make of it. But people do think that's you, people think that's you. As soon as they've watched you in something, they think that's like your thing is strange to encounter. I think that's what Nicole Kidman's really good at is that a lot of the time when I see her in films, like she's so convinced as a character, but I don't think that's what Nicole Kidman's really good at is that a lot of the time when I see her in films, she's so convinced as a character, but I don't think that is what she thinks in real life.
Starting point is 00:15:30 Yes. I don't know why. There's this separation where I'm like, I think she's just completely playing the role and there's almost a part of her that goes for roles that are so far removed from who she is that you can't really confuse them in a way. I don't know. That's how I felt watching the Estelle. I wouldn't come away from it going, that's what the cold kid thinks. I don't think I ever watch any actor and think they believe everything in
Starting point is 00:15:50 the film. The Rock? My girlfriend loves The Rock. Hey, look, I love The Rock. Cause you believe it. There's a figure of him right there. There is, yeah. Do you like wrestling? I love wrestling. Yeah, me too. Love the iron claw. There is, yeah. Do you like wrestling? I love wrestling. Yeah, me too. Love the iron claw. Oh yeah. My two favourite things, wrestling and unremitting bleakness. Yes, brotherhood.
Starting point is 00:16:11 But just going off what you said about Nicole, she is such a daring actor. I found, even in her body of work, it's obvious that she chooses really risky filmmakers and like bold stories. But when you do something with her, like she's really prepared to just go to the most embarrassing place without fear of judgment of anyone. Because a film set is inherently quite embarrassing. Like someone described it the other day as it's like a building site and you have to walk up to the
Starting point is 00:16:45 building site and stop everyone what they're doing and be like I'm gonna have an act now. Jack Loudon said it, the actor Jack Loudon said it, he was with him and he was like... because it's true you've got all these like grips and camp operators and technicians and and you're there like I'm going to perform and it's like this very like physical environment where you know you're stopping everything for a moment and be like, my turn, stop what you're doing, now I'm going to step in and do my thing. And then you're sort of sat, you know, it's really weird and embarrassing. But she is just so good at jumping in and trying stuff.
Starting point is 00:17:18 So that was a cool experience for me to be a part of that and force me to also go there. Were there times where you were thinking, do you ever think in things like, that's Nicole Kidman? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm glad to know that. Yeah, of course. Yeah. I was saying to somebody the other day, like the first couple of weeks in the production,
Starting point is 00:17:34 I really tried to play it cool and professional and didn't ask her anything because I was like, she's trying to do her job. I don't want to embarrass her. And then I was like, wait a minute, I was lying in bed one night thinking like, fucking hell, you need to ask her every single quick, like, how can you not, how can you work with someone like that and not ask. So the next day it was like 10 AM and I was like, so how was Stanley Kubrick? I just have to, you have to get over it because if you, if you get to the end of
Starting point is 00:18:02 that process and you've been too polite or too cool, you kick yourself, you know, working with someone like that. But then it's a weird one because it's a mechanism to not be starstruck, isn't it? To just be like, yeah, sure. But then also you meet someone like that or anyone like that. You know, years ago I worked with Angelina Jolie and I was like, how do I have a normal conversation with this person? I was like 22 years old, like, what the fuck do I ask?
Starting point is 00:18:25 And he's like, are you doing this long? It's a really difficult thing where you've known someone's work, you've grown up watching them, and you're then thrust into an environment and you've got to talk to them in a very, you know, professional, you know, normal, like, going to work every day. It's like, got any kids? So it's like, you know, you know information about, like what going to work every day, it's like, got any kids? So it's like, you know, you know, information about them, whether you research them or not, it's just there.
Starting point is 00:18:50 So that's a weird thing. I don't know if you guys find that when you meet people that you really admire, like how to navigate the sort of interaction, like do you go straight in with something? We go in with poppadoms or bread normally. Yeah, still sparking. That's how we, what we've done is created a podcast and a format to, uh, to do all of that. What would you have done if you said Nicole Kidman was what's your favorite job you've
Starting point is 00:19:11 ever had? And she said, I worked in the Jamie Dodger. I would have deferred to Ed to put up to put her apart. Where is that Nicole? Just outside of London. Bullshit is in Wales. Now I'm going to go and act. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:24 Yeah. That was the impetus'm going to go and act. Yeah, that was the impetus for me to go and really do it. You're welcome. We'll start with still a spark than water, Harris. Yeah. You have a preference? I do like sparkling, yeah. That's my bag. Do you know what? I did this job years ago and I had a driver who was lovely and
Starting point is 00:19:46 he was taking me every day. It was out to one of the studios and he loved Sam Pell. He was always drinking it and he noticed that I liked it. So he used to buy me a bottle most days. So I'd get in the car and there'd be a bottle of Sam Pellagrino there. And I got so spoiled. I was like, wow, what a treat. I said to him, you're not, like, I can't let you buy this from me. He said, no, no, no, I'll charge it back to the production, don't worry. We were doing it for months. So after a while we got really comfortable and his wife started making me this, bless her, this like chia pudding.
Starting point is 00:20:18 And it was like a healthy, you know, like chia seeds. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And they go like, squidgy. And he started making me that. And he was like this, you know, proper like East End bloke that had kind of converted to like ketogenic diets. And so he started teaching me about any, his wife would make me these puddings. And by the end of the job, you know, he would, he would, by the end of it, I sort of was
Starting point is 00:20:39 like, I don't really want them anymore. You know, I wasn't, I wasn't loving them. Pretty fed up with the chia puddings. Yeah, I wasn't loving them, but I felt rude. And one of the days I was in the makeup trailer with some bigger actors, everyone was sharing, there was eight of us in there. And he knocked on the door and he was like, Harris, your puddin's in your trailer. And everyone looked at me like, what the fuck is going on here?
Starting point is 00:21:02 Is that your driver? What do you mean, puddin'? And I was like, it's okay, it is that your driver? Like, what's going on? What do you mean pudding? And I was like, it's okay, it's okay. Yeah, it's like a health, yeah, it's okay. His wife does it, you know, tried to get myself out of it. But that always reminds me of him
Starting point is 00:21:15 whenever I see sparkling, but yeah. When you're sparkling water, do you want a little cheer pudding? Yeah. I think I'm all right. They come together though. So if you want San Pellegrino, it has to come with a little chia pudding.
Starting point is 00:21:26 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, I'd like to know the stats of how many people choose still. Like, is that a big choice for people? I think last time Ben did the stats, it was pretty much even split. Was that right? Really? Yeah. Oh, it wasn't.
Starting point is 00:21:40 Ben's shaking his head and saying that. It has been even split. It has been even split before. Yeah. He's got the stats. He's got the stats. What do you guys choose? I choose Stillwater. Well, no, in our episodes.
Starting point is 00:21:48 Oh, yes. Sorry. We did our dream menus a couple of times. Did you? The first time we did it, I chose a pint of Guinness. Yeah. We cheated. We cheated.
Starting point is 00:21:57 Shouldn't that be reserved? But Guinness is very hydrating. Is it? Yeah. Yeah. He was able to justify it. Yeah. I love a Guinness. He doesn't have the stats. Ben, why would you say you have the stats when you don't have the stats? That's a very odd thing to lie about.
Starting point is 00:22:10 He's got the poppadoms or bread stats. We can get to them later. Yeah, we'll get to them. I am intrigued. But I think sparkling, I think is more popular than I thought it would be. Yeah. It feels like a treat, doesn't it? I used to work in a hotel and we had... Where is the hotel? In edge of East London. No, it's in Wales. And we had boxes of Harrogate Springs. Oh yeah. Which I don't like. Sorry. You don't like Harrogate Springs? Thank you. I don't like it. I hate Harrogate Springs water. I've got a real issue with it. It tastes like weird tap water. Yeah, same. The sparkling is dreadful.
Starting point is 00:22:50 Sorry guys, but it just doesn't... Sorry. I had a bad gig in Harrogate once. Like really bad. It was like going really badly. It was a tour show. It was like my first tour. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:59 And I got so angry. I started slagging off the water. That didn't make it any better. Yeah. Your water sucks. Harrogate Springs is the worst water. I've had a go at Harrogate before. It's just sort of their tea rooms are shit. It's not a vibe. We used to have to put them out for weddings and they used to have functions
Starting point is 00:23:16 in the, I was going to say funeral. We did have funerals and the Harrogate was always like something you have to put out. It's a very hotel water actually. Yeah. Miserable. It tastes like they put loads of paper clips in it and then sift the paper clips out. It's got a sort of metallic taste. That's interesting. Yeah. Like Harrogate.
Starting point is 00:23:33 While you're drinking San Pellegrino at your dream meal, do you want us to be chucking like Harrogate Springs like... In the bin. In the bin. That's a nice idea. You can see us doing that. That's a nice idea, yeah. Getting rid of it all.
Starting point is 00:23:44 Is there something about it that reminds you of that job? Do you have good memories of that job? Yes and no. I mean, it was like hard work and it was nice people, but the hotel itself was strange and the people that stayed there were strange. So it was mixed. We used to get a lot of like, so they would put groups of local, you know, like security guards that
Starting point is 00:24:05 sit in car parks and stuff. There was like a firm that would train those guys up, so there would be groups of those guys coming into the hotel and they would get £10 allowance for food and drink and I would work on the bar. I mean look, I applied to work on the bar, I ended up working on the bar, I ended up working in the kitchen, I ended up delivering room service, I ended up setting for weddings. They were really just doing whatever possible. These groups of guys would come in and it was quite sad. They would be there on their own, away from home, and it wasn't a nice hotel.
Starting point is 00:24:39 They would come to the bar and say, oh, can I have a look at the menu? Give them the pre-organized menu that they were. And it was like three options. Yeah. It was a tenner and you get a drink and some of them would say, can I have chips instead of salad? And I'd say, no, I don't have to tell them. No. I say, if you want that, you have to pay extra. And they go, all right. And they'd get their coins out and they start, Oh God. And then you deliver it in the room and they're just sat there on their own and they want to chat and it's it was just odd You know, yeah, but I'm very sad. So maybe that's what that's what it brings to mind. It's like there's no I mean I asked the question to be fair
Starting point is 00:25:18 I like it. I like that we got a bit is this podcast can do at all But that is yeah, it's never got sadder than that. And I used to think I hated Harrogate Springwater. Harrogate Springwater is going to make me even sadder now. Yeah. Pop lobs or bread? Pop lobs or bread, Harris Dickinson? Pop lobs or bread? Bloody hell. Well, that went well because James was worried that he can't surprise people anymore. So what he did to you, which was quite cruel, is he waited for you to have a sip of your drink.
Starting point is 00:25:45 And you were halfway through and it nearly came out of your mouth. Would that be a good film? Someone who's worried they can't surprise people anymore? Sounds like a Ben Stiller film. Yeah. It's like a Liar Liar sequel. But now he can't surprise people. Or an Adam Sandler film.
Starting point is 00:26:00 I'd like to see that with Adam Sandler. Him like going, wooooooo. It's just not working. No, he's not surprised anymore. Or maybe like, yeah, he like, he's like hosts a prank show or something. Yeah, he would have to have a job that demanded he surprise people. Or like a children's entertainer. A magician.
Starting point is 00:26:19 A magician, yeah. Ghost train operator. Or if it was a ghost train operator. Yeah, they have the surprise people. What's that? What is that? A Ghost Train Operator. What's a Ghost Train? What's a Ghost Train?
Starting point is 00:26:31 This is huge. I get so heuristic into what a Ghost Train is. You've never been on a Ghost Train? No. Let's just start explaining it. Harris will know what you're on about. All right. You know at the fun fair,
Starting point is 00:26:41 you get in a little car and it goes in to a little structure. Yeah, I do know. Yeah. What do you call it? I thought there was something loftier that I was unaware of. No, no, no. He made it sound like a real thing. The polar express kind of situation. I don't know. He made it sound like a real thing. Do you call it a ghost train?
Starting point is 00:26:59 Yeah, yeah, yeah. The theme park. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Why would you not assume I was talking about a ghost train in a fairground? Because like an operator, I don't know why I just imagined something a bit more like sophisticated that I hadn't experienced. Maybe the word operator was a bit lofty for... So Adam Sandler working in a theme park operating the ghost train. Poblums or bread, Harris? Poblums or bread.
Starting point is 00:27:19 I'll do bread. I'll do bread. I do... Have you guys been to Cafe Cecilia? Yes. Yes. You know the Guinness bread? Yeah. Can I do that? Yeah, absolutely. You can do bread. I do, have you guys been to Cafe Cecilia? Yes, yes. You know the Guinness bread? Yeah. Can I do that?
Starting point is 00:27:29 Yeah, absolutely you can do that. It's dense. My girlfriend's gonna be very happy. It's one of her favourite breads. That's not gonna shout out on the podcast yet. Is it not? She loves the Guinness bread at Cafe Cecilia. Have you had the ice cream that they make out of it? No.
Starting point is 00:27:40 They make ice cream out of the Guinness bread. Really? That's outside. I mean anything that has Guinness in it, I'm ordering it straight away. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's a great ingredient in anything. And I do- In water apparently for this guy. You took me there? I took you there. I took you to Cafe Cecilia. James is always so proud of himself when he recommends me somewhere. Yeah. Well normally it's the way around. All puffed up and excited. So you two sort of
Starting point is 00:28:01 have food offs. Yeah, we have food offs. I bow to the master. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, Ed's the one who knows all the places. Whenever someone says to me like, you know, are you at a food podcast? Can you recommend somewhere? I'm like, yeah, here's Ed Gamble's phone number. Yeah, you got to stop doing that. Ask him, he knows.
Starting point is 00:28:16 I do that with my brother. My brother recruits for like a lot of like the food scene. And so sometimes I recommend him and he's like okay I'll have a look at it yeah. But you know really I'm like what's good you know. It's good you know. It's like yeah I'll let you know. It's nerve wracking giving recommendations to people though. Yeah it is.
Starting point is 00:28:35 I get a lot of people coming from America as well that always have this view of London as bad food and I'm like it's good just like and then you feel the pressure of that you know. Yeah man it's good. Just like, and then you feel the pressure of that, you know? Yeah, man, it's hard. But yeah, Guinness bread with lots of butter, soft butter, you know? Whipped butter. Yeah, you like the whipped butter. Whipped butter. Yeah. Whip it up.
Starting point is 00:28:54 Do you guys ever make bread? Like, is that a thing you've done? You know what? I keep thinking about, I should do it. I bet that would be really satisfying to make bread. And then I remember that they sell it everywhere. You can literally go shop. You can go shop. You can go shop. Go shopping. Yeah. And nice bread as well. It's not-
Starting point is 00:29:12 What's nice bread for you? A nice sourdough or just a nice proper baked loaf from a proper bakery. I live near so many bakeries. It almost seems rude to make it myself at home. Yeah. Yeah. Disrespectful. Yeah. It's like you saying to them, I home. Yeah. Yeah. Disrespectful. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:25 Like you saying to them, I could do it. I could do this. Yeah. But the process maybe, maybe there's something. I'd enjoy the process. Actors love talking about the process. The process. Yeah. But just-
Starting point is 00:29:36 Do you bake bread? No, I don't. I don't. But similarly, I, yeah, I made a focaccia. My partner hosted like a hen, and I made them a focaccia in the shape of a heart, and it was pathetic. It was pathetic. If you don't mind me saying that, you're trying very hard to get the hen do to like you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, I wasn't there, I left.
Starting point is 00:29:58 I sort of did it and left, but it was like a pathetic moment where I was like, what, I don't fucking know. Did they? Which is a low point. Did they request? I don't fucking know. Did they? Which is a low point. Did they request? They didn't request. Rose said to me, she said, can you maybe make a bit of that focaccia you did? Because focaccia is easier, isn't it? It's just like a bit more. Right. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:14 It's not like a whole. And then I don't like it when people, you've got to jam your fingers into it. Yeah. Well, you use something else. Yeah. That's too suggestive, however. Whatever you like. I know you didn't mean it to be. But that was a low moment. Yeah. Making that in the shape of a heart. Did they request it in the shape
Starting point is 00:30:31 of a heart? No, of course they didn't. I just thought, well, this is, you know, I'm trying to make it fun. And then I had to leave because we've done it. It started in the house and I did it. And then I sort of had to walk around and go out for the afternoon I was just thinking like this is really sad Yeah, I've just done that and they're gonna also be looking at thinking but he made that yeah. Yeah Well, what my girlfriend was in a house share years ago with three other women and one of them had just started going out With this guy and it was Valentine's Day And he came into the living room and he bought a rose for each one of them gave them all roses and then went out with his girlfriend as soon as he left the
Starting point is 00:31:08 house the other three went that's a bad guy. That's wet behaviour. Yeah we don't like that guy. He bought a rose for everyone. Everyone gave them all roses. A single rose. Yeah yeah there you go for each one of them and then they were like oh thank you as soon as he leaves yeah fuck that guy.
Starting point is 00:31:22 At least if it was bread they could eat it. That's weird. Yeah. That is weird. Yeah yeah. Oh bless thank you. As soon as he leaves. Yeah. Fuck that guy. At least if it was bread, they could eat it. That's weird. Yeah. Yeah. That is weird. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, bless him though. No, he's a bad egg. Okay. Yeah. Thank you. Did he say ladies when he gave them all the roses?
Starting point is 00:31:35 Oh yeah. I think he said stuff like that. Yeah. Yeah. A rose as beautiful as every one of you. Like, we're only travelers. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. A rose besitu. Everyone deserves a flower on Valentine's Day. Yeah, something like that. But the romance thing is hard because I know that some people do like it.
Starting point is 00:31:53 I don't know if you guys experience how you navigate that, but some people are into it. It's some people's love language, isn't it? Yeah, it's romantic. It's not attractive. But romance comes in many different guises, you know. For sure. It has to feel authentic. For sure.
Starting point is 00:32:09 Well, this is what your film's about, Harris. Is it? Yeah. It's about everyone's thinking, you know, it's about knowing what different people are into and being able to. Yes, it's true, it's true. Yeah, what works for you,
Starting point is 00:32:20 what your idea of pleasure is, how you communicate. Yeah, you're right, you're right. Not judging, no. Yeah, see, how you communicate. Yeah, you're right. Yeah, see I understood it. You took a lot from this film. He was focusing. My only regret is that I sat at the back and I went on my own. Right. That didn't look good.
Starting point is 00:32:33 Not a good look. Not a good look. Not a good look. My girlfriend was meant to be coming with me and she was like, oh, I've just remembered I've got to stay in for a cardo. I was like, a cardo, does it? I was like, are you fucking kidding me? Sounds like an excuse.
Starting point is 00:32:43 Yeah, yeah, yeah. You go on your own, you're dead to whoever. for a card. Are you fucking kidding me? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Go on your own, you're dead to whoever. I went, saw it, like a little grubby perv, come home. As I'm telling her what the film was about, doorbell rings, it's a cardo. So you're fucking joking. I went to, you know, Prince Charles. Yeah. I went to the cinema.
Starting point is 00:33:03 For listeners who don't live in London, parents did not go and see it with Prince Charles? Yeah. I went to the Prince Charles. For listeners who don't live in London. Yeah. Pat Amiss did not go and see it with Prince Charles. His house. Or his King Charles now. King Charles, yeah. I'll have you know. No, I went to that cinema last year with a friend and we watched a film.
Starting point is 00:33:15 It was like an extended cut and it was quite long. And so I took my shoes off and I was, you know, there was no one in front of me. So I was sort of like playing footsie with the chair in front of me, you know, just like plodding it here and there. And after about half an hour, I thought that my foot was on the chair but I started to feel a human head. And so what I thought was a chair was a human head and it was a bald head. So my foot was on someone's head and they were on the floor in front of me and I got so startled by it that I sort of looked over and there was a man laying on the floor and he scurried away.
Starting point is 00:34:02 His argument, when I said to him, what are you doing? He said, I was looking for my wallet. I said, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. You've been there for 20 minutes. You've, that wasn't, you weren't looking for your wallet. You've been there for a good 20 minutes. Like my foot has been on your head for a while. Like what the fuck are you doing down there?
Starting point is 00:34:19 That was weird. That just reminded me, sorry, of this bloke on the floor. That's a much creepier time than I had. Isn't that weird? That's very, very weird. How just reminded me, sorry, of this bloke on the floor. That was a much creepier time than I had. Isn't that weird? That is really weird. That's very, very weird. Very scary. How do you explain it? And then he did leave as well, actually. That's all on him as well. You can't feel bad about that.
Starting point is 00:34:33 No. The fact is... But what point did he get down there? How did he get down there? How did I not see him? Was he looking for something? Did he want a foot on his head? Did he? I think maybe. He wanted a foot on his head. Maybe he does that. Maybe he goes there looking for something? Did he want a foot on his head? Did he want a foot on his head? I think maybe. He wanted a foot on his head. Maybe he does that.
Starting point is 00:34:46 Maybe he goes there looking for the feet. But how has he figured out? That's a good way of getting it. How is he, cinemas are good. I can get on the floor there and people don't know it's my head that he can get a seat. It's so dark isn't it? It's like Batman. It's like Batman.
Starting point is 00:34:59 He moves in the shadows. Yeah, he moves in the shadows. He is a version of Batman, yeah. A Batman who just crawls around. It's like Grubby Batman. Yeah, he moves in the shadows. He is a version of Batman, yeah. Batman who just crawls around. It's like grubby Batman. Dirty Batman. Was there anyone next to you when you went to watch it? Or was you just on your own?
Starting point is 00:35:16 Unfortunately, there was two women in front of me and that didn't do me any favours. I was like, I would have rather the seats in front of me were empty or were blokes, because as it is, and now I don't look like I've deliberately sat here, but yeah, I wasn't delighted. Do you guys eat when you go to the cinema? Do you like eating drink? I'm always intrigued to hear. Sometimes. People have a go at me because I've got a small bladder. Same. So if I go and see a film, I actually didn't get a drink yesterday, because I was like... You get scared.
Starting point is 00:35:43 I'm talking to this guy tomorrow, I've got to know what this film was about. Yeah. I can't be going out pissing every night. And as a man by himself at that film, you can't be running off to the toilet every ten minutes. Well, actually that's more of an issue. Yeah. My mum does that.
Starting point is 00:35:54 My mum uses the toilet a lot. Whenever she comes to a film, I see her go about five times faster. And I'm like, well, you don't know what the film's like. Yeah, yeah. Thanks for coming. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that was brilliant. Brilliant. Which bit, mum? Yeah. Let's get into your menu proper now. Your dream starter.
Starting point is 00:36:12 So again, it's a bit basic back to the bread thing, but I went to a restaurant recently. They served for a starter, it was bread, honey roast ham, marmalade and butter. Wow. And it was obviously like a sort of trendy take on like leftovers or whatever. It was around Christmas time. And I just feel like that as a combination is really like hearty, you know? Proper good chunk of ham, marmalade,
Starting point is 00:36:41 which I never thought I would put together with that. Yeah, and warm butter. It was nice, man It reminded me of like, yeah leftovers. Super Christmasy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah I love a big old chunk of ham at Christmas Yeah, it's always like the you know, my stepdad would always be like, you know an hour after dinner be like right Ready for a sandwich? It's like straight away. Yeah, it just brings back that fullness of Christmas. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:08 And when you eat things like that outside of Christmas time, that's always exciting, but you feel like you're doing something wrong. Yes. I can't believe I'm having ham outside of Christmas time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Honey roast ham. Yeah, like a big chunk of gammon, you understand, James? You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:37:23 You understand, James. You understand? I don't know why that's made me laugh so much. We're on the same page over here. Yeah, well not. Like Christmas ham. Is there an in-joke about ham with you? No, it's funny that he is talking to me like this.
Starting point is 00:37:36 A big chunk of ham you understand James. You're using for you saying what? Ham reminds you of Christmas. Yeah, that's what it sounded like. You think we're talking about like wa for thin ham, which we're not. We're talking about Christmas ham. Yeah. Christmas.
Starting point is 00:37:49 Even someone, even someone cut another ham. I would think, Oh, it's not Christmas time. I can't eat this ham. But the taste of it, the way it's prepared. When have you ever gone to a restaurant and ordered a joint of honey roast ham? Yeah. That's not. Some ham.
Starting point is 00:38:02 When we can. Out of season. When? It's so, it's so common, I can't even pinpoint it. What are we talking about, like a Calvary or like a normal restaurant? Maybe a normal restaurant, like anywhere. But you're not giving us any specifics, you've not told us when you've had it. I think it's so common, no? No.
Starting point is 00:38:18 I'll have a side of gammon please. Yeah. No, I just feel like it's either Calvary or like seasonal. I don't ever come across it in restaurants. Thank you I'll do a gammon for you. Yeah, that's true Feels different doesn't it? It's just not the same It doesn't have the it does the ring of like fat with the with the sweet stuff on the outside That's that's me as Christmas your clothes or clothes. Yeah Disgusting I do just love a roasting that a a good roast dinner. It's standard. There's a good roast at the Marksman in Hackney.
Starting point is 00:38:49 I've heard so much about that and I've still never been. It's a good roast. It's not too big. It's like you finish it and you feel decent. I don't know whether I'd enjoy feeling decent after a roast. You want to feel disgusting. I think I have to commit to feeling awful for at least two days afterwards. Really?
Starting point is 00:39:06 Yeah. That's like me with gigs. I want to look at a roast and go, yeah, this is the rest of the day at least is a write off. Is a write off, yeah. For example, if you ate a roast at two-ish, would you have something in the evening? If I'm really going for it, yeah, I'm going to have some little- A dinner?
Starting point is 00:39:26 Bits. Bits. Bitty tea. Yeah. Yeah. Bitty tea. Yeah. Leftover gammon.
Starting point is 00:39:34 Yeah, yeah. Is it fair to say that, do you like leftovers more than you like the actual Christmas dinner? Yeah, there's something nice about sort of, you know, letting your body tell yourself it's hungry again, even though you're not in the evening, you know? A bit more cheese or- Just forcing it in. Yeah. Yeah. What do you feel about leftovers yeah I like it man it's got a full leftover day on boxing day it's all leftovers and he gets to be the master you do it all my partner's family in Birmingham they do and
Starting point is 00:40:00 Nans Jamaican so they do with the turkey they do like a curried turkey and then they do soul food like two days after. So that is like a much better version of leftovers. They really elevate some very British ingredients into something that's properly nice. Yes, you're eating Christmas dinner being like, get through this. Yeah, yeah. We get the good stuff. Two days we're going to have like.
Starting point is 00:40:20 Add some spice to it. Yeah. What's this restaurant where you got the leftover stuff? It's called White's it's in it's in Hackney. I'm gonna have to try it. Yes. I want it's really good Yeah season and I like watching people like they were doing it in front of me. It's like an open kitchen thing I like that in restaurants when you can see everything going on Yeah, you know my I feel like you tend to want to go, I don't know how you feel about like a table
Starting point is 00:40:47 or like a type of table, like what you look for in that, but like sitting at a bar as long as your feet are supported I feel. So true. If they're swinging. Yeah, preferably by a large bald man's head, but if they're swinging that's not that's not great No, you feel like a child I think when you're like feet are dangling over the edge and you're kicking them around you need you need either a bar Running along the bottom of the bar if you see what I mean like a pole Yes, or on the stool itself a little support. Yeah, so you can put my heels up on it. Yeah Yeah, how do you feel about a bag hook? I'm not against it
Starting point is 00:41:25 Yeah, I love discovering do you feel about a bag hook? I'm not against it. No. I love a bag hook. Yeah, yeah. I love discovering that under the counter. Like a full rucksack. It's not really for a rucksack though, is it? Or even a coat hook. It's sitting down. Oh, it's a bag. It's a suit bag. It's a suit bag. I didn't want a bag.
Starting point is 00:41:36 I starved for my counter. Oh, blimey. Oh, a little coat hook under the counter. Someone's thought about it. Yeah, I love it. Then you you hang it up, feel really clever. Yeah. What about when someone takes your coat? Are you into that? I know this seems suspicious when you always feel like you're being weird when you go into a restaurant.
Starting point is 00:41:53 They're like, can we take your coat? I always say no. I don't like it. Yeah, I don't like it. I want to keep it close. I tried to do it today. You really put all your stuff into the studio. You said leave it there.
Starting point is 00:42:01 I said no, no, I'll bring it all in and all out there. Well, I better leave it all out there. The worst is going to a restaurant and they say, can I take your coat? there. I said no, I'll bring it all in and all that. I thought well I better leave it all out there. The worst is going to a restaurant and they say, can I take your coat? And you say, no, I'll keep it. And then you get there and the chair is not in the right shape to hang a coat on. There was a reason why.
Starting point is 00:42:13 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I always let them take my coat. Yeah. I absolutely love it. Do you? Oh yeah, I feel like a king. You feel like a king, yeah. Yeah, I feel like a duke, at least a duke.
Starting point is 00:42:23 Yeah. What about if it's quite a nice restaurant and you've turned up wearing like quite a shit coat and then you see your coat being hung up with all the nice coats. I feel bad then. Well, you've never had a shit coat, Ed. I've had a shit coat, mate. No, this guy's never had a shit coat. He's trying to make out like he's the common man. Earlier you said, we're talking about a habit Christmas, James, you see?
Starting point is 00:42:44 So don't even try. I said you understand. Don't you understand? But like some really fancy restaurants, everyone's got nicer coats than me, man. It's true. Even the coat you turn up in today would probably be deemed like casual. Not nice enough to casual. Do you like nice coats? Not really, but I love seeing my coat go up with all the other coats. You stay there with your friends.
Starting point is 00:43:07 You make friends. Maybe some of those nice coats, the smell will rub off on mine and I smell like a gent. And then when they bring it back to you, you place your arms behind you, ready for them to put it on for you. Yeah, I do it like Titanic. Let them put it on me and then I smell it. This is not looking good. You went to see Baby Girl by yourself and now you're saying you smell your coat when it's me and then I smell it. This is not looking good. You went
Starting point is 00:43:25 to see baby girl by yourself and now you're saying you smell your coat when it's been next to some ladies coats. Listen, this may as well be the episode. That was long ago that episode. Yeah, I used to be a bold man and go to see films. Whether you're in your running era, Pilates era, or yoga era, dive into Peloton workouts that work with you. From meditating at your kid's game to mastering a strength program, they've got everything you need to keep knocking down your goals. No pressure to be who you're not.
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Starting point is 00:44:40 And he was a good cook, but he'd throw a lot of random stuff in there. And there was always these like sausages in there. And I don't really know what they're called, but they're, you know, it's like a German sausage that you, you know, it's not, you know, it's not Cumberland, you know, it's like a, yeah, exactly. And he'd put those in there and he'd put a load of red wine. And you know, when you're a kid and you think, whoa, feeling that. You think you're a bit wobbly up here.
Starting point is 00:45:10 You know what I mean? Eleven year old, come on. And a bit of Malbec. And he did that for a long time and we always sort of requested it, me and my siblings, we'd always go and be like, oh dad, can we do this back? And he'd be like, all right, you know, he thought he was, yeah, he thought he was living, you know, it was it. And then he met a lady, my step-mom, who's lovely. And she is also a good cook. And she kind of took over the cooking a little bit. And
Starting point is 00:45:37 so after a while, the sausage left the dish. And it was like a quietly understood thing that, you know, we were a bit gutted about it. It was like, why don't you do it like that anymore? I think maybe something along the lines, you know, it changed or something along the way. She didn't, she says it's a bad idea. Get that sausage out of it. Bless them, bless her, whatever. So I would say I'll do that with the sausages, but maybe with a short rib, because I really like short rib. Oh, yeah, nice.
Starting point is 00:46:07 Yeah. And I've been cooking a lot of that lately, so I do that like a short rib ragu with that sausage and then I do it with a nice pappardelle. Lovely. Is that a pappardelle? Yeah, yeah. And yeah, lots of cheese, lots of parmesan. Simple, but nice.
Starting point is 00:46:22 It's great. Yeah, filling. But if you do it right, you know, like if you can cook, if you can get that right, it tastes so good, man. And it's simple, isn't it? It's like simple ingredients. It's not like loads of complex things. Yeah. But there's something so satisfying about like, I guess you're really slow cooking that short rib. Yeah, it's like three, four hours, isn't it? Yeah, it's like magic. It's so good.
Starting point is 00:46:42 Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I'm glad the sausage has made a reappearance in your, in your spag bowl. Yeah. I love that you have to be like, stepmum's a lovely lady and there's often a lot, you know, friction when someone new comes into the family. Yeah. There wasn't any friction just in one particular area, the sausage disappeared from the spag bowl. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, she was a good cook. So no one questioned it. Yeah. I think my dad sort of took a back step with the cooking. Yeah. And we were all a bit like, but what about the sausage? Yeah, so...
Starting point is 00:47:09 But you were supportive enough of the relationship that you didn't make an issue, which is very sweet. Of course. You and your siblings were like, we really want the sausage in the spag bol, but we like this lady and she's good for our dad. Yeah. So we're not going to bring it up. Yeah, she's not like an evil step mum from a film. No, we'll concede. Yeah. Not a fle an evil step mum from a film. Yeah, we'll concede. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:25 Not Fleabag's step mum. Olivia Colman, yeah. Well, she was bad. She was bad. Yeah, yeah. Fleabag hated her. Remember? Fleabag didn't like that woman.
Starting point is 00:47:39 Yeah. And never really came around to her. I think maybe in the final episode. We had some nicer words to say to each other good show good show But what I like about the short rib situations you have to go to the butchers right there's a butcher down by where we are Yeah, and um it's always carnage in there I went before Christmas and it was so busy and there's like, you know people buying like pigs foot And you're like what are you doing with that?
Starting point is 00:48:03 I'm very intrigued about what people do with various different things. You ever have a pigs foot outside of Christmas? No. This is a pigs foot you understand? Outside of Christmas. Do you ask people what they're doing with the pigs foot? No. No, just intrigued. Would you?
Starting point is 00:48:23 Yeah, maybe. I'd say how are you going to cook that, what you're going to do with it. What you're going to do with it, yeah. Yeah, because I'm fascinated by that as well. Yeah, you see all the different cuts and you think, well I wouldn't know what to do with half of these. Yeah. I know someone who would love to buy a pig's foot. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:36 Yes, so do I. The pervy bolt man. Yeah. He'd lay on the floor and he'd hold the pig's foot and he'd just like hit himself on the head with it. Yeah. I'd be like, yeah. I think it's better that he does that You know, yes, that's nicer. Isn't it? Keep it in the house. Keep it in the house
Starting point is 00:48:50 Yeah, it probably doesn't get the same thrill out of it. No, that's true. Yeah It's not as good as when Harris Dickinson came in. It needs to be a warm human foot. Yeah, and you can't be in control of it Yeah, yeah, it's like those, you know those Indian head massages those wires. It's good when you do it yourself. Doesn't work does it? No, no, it doesn't. Indian head massages, those wires. Yeah, it's never as good when you do it yourself. It doesn't work, does it? No. No, it doesn't. Yeah, in that man's defense. Yeah. So your butcher's absolutely rammed.
Starting point is 00:49:13 Yeah, yeah. And there's always a panic when they ask, when they come to you, you know, what do you want? Short rib, please. Yeah. Trying to sound assured. Yeah. Confident with what you want.
Starting point is 00:49:23 Do you ever like... A couple of kilograms of it, please. Please. Yeah. Trying to sound assured. Yeah. Confident with what you want. Do you ever like... A couple of kilograms of it, please. In those situations, do you ever go and like, come on, Hamish, you're an actor. Let's do this. Let's play the role of a confident guy at the butchers. Does that ever help? Maybe I'm doing that always, yeah. Maybe I'm doing that to cope a lot of the time, but it doesn't seem to work, James. So... You can't, you can't. Do one of my voices?
Starting point is 00:49:45 Do one of my voices, yeah, do an accent. Do you ever do that? If you're doing something that requires the American accent, are you using it out and about? Yeah, a little bit. It's a good tester, isn't it? To see if people pull you up on it. I was doing it a lot in New York to see if...
Starting point is 00:50:01 But you also feel like a bit of a tit, you know? You hear about people staying in accent the whole time and I tried it once and I spoke to someone and they were like, what the fuck are you doing? Like what's the, what do you mean? You're talking like that. I was like, no, sorry, sorry. This has gone bad. Yeah, yeah. This is stupid. We've lost him. Trying to do that with people that you're close to is abysmal really.
Starting point is 00:50:21 But um. You'd walk into the butchers and go, too short rib. Too short ribs yeah two short ribs Tony. He's so good at accents. It's incredible. I got a pound of beef and five pucks you know. Fuckin hell. Look at that. For the listener that's the same guy. Yeah we've not got an American in it just run in it. It's insane. Actors always want to do accents. Like we, as I was telling you earlier, we made a film last year and we had an actor turn up and he was playing a difficult customer in a restaurant. Someone that wasn't particularly happy with his steak.
Starting point is 00:50:57 And he turned up and in the audition he was doing a very sort of well-meaning, you know, well-spoken London accent. And he was great and it was perfect. And he turned up on the day and he said, Oh, listen, Harris, I think I'm going to do a Northern accent. I said, if it's okay, I think stick to your accent because it's really good. He said, I'd really like to try the Northern accent.
Starting point is 00:51:15 He said, I'd really like to try it. And he started speaking in it. And I was like, okay, well, let's give it a go. You know, you've got to let him give it a go. Sure. You know, exercise it. Is this in something that you've directed? This is in something that I made, yeah, but that was an interesting thing,
Starting point is 00:51:31 being on the other side of it. During the audition process where people, they want to try accents, you know. Yeah. Try a Scouse accent, give it a go, and you know, it's like, why? And was that the only, that was his part in the film, was just complaining in a restaurant? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He had a whole scene and he was great. It was a whole situation where it was kind of, you were on both sides, you know, it was like, he was talking about the idea of the steak not being cooked the way I asked,
Starting point is 00:51:55 but also he was being kind of reasonable, you know, so it was like, whose side are we on kind of thing. So he wants something for his show, real, that shows he can do different accents. Versatility. Yeah. Versatility. Maybe I should do that for my next stand-up show. I can just do a different accent for the whole show. Yeah. That'd be good. The thing is sometimes he says these things and I'm like, he's not going to do that. And then he does do it. Yeah. Like letting people heckle. Yeah, I did that. Never thought you'd do that. I did it. What did I see you on? You did
Starting point is 00:52:22 that game show where they spin you around. The wheel. What's that? That was on a Christmas. The wheel. I mean you've pretty much described what it is. It's the game show where they spin you around. It's the game show where they spin you around.
Starting point is 00:52:32 Was that fun? I love when people dance on the wheel. I was texting him before he went on it going, you've got to dance when they spin the wheel Ed. I love the wheel. You've got to get your dance down. I love the wheel. So I jumped at the chance to be on the wheel.
Starting point is 00:52:43 No, you don't jump, you sit down. But you jump onto the wheel. You've not done the wheel. Fuck off. I ain't done the wheel. so I jumped at the chance to be on the wheel. No, you don't jump, you sit down. You jump onto the wheel. You've not done the wheel, fuck off. I haven't done the wheel. Yeah, fuck off. What would be your specialist subject? The wheel.
Starting point is 00:52:53 The wheel. I would answer questions about the wheel. I think I'll do pretty well on that. Seen a lot of episodes. Heavy metal. Yeah. The problem is, it is random when you get spun in to answer a question and I never got spun in, so I went all the way to the studio, sat on the wheel, got spun around and went home again.
Starting point is 00:53:09 Yeah, I noticed that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No one chose you? No, no one chose me. You know all of Ed's work. I do. I've done my research. Up the creek, the wheel. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:17 This is no accident. You've not watched my work, I've watched yours. Hey, I talked about Iron Claw, right? Yes, that's true, sorry. Yeah, you mentioned it. I've seen Triangle of Sadness. I'm joking, I'm joking. Yeah, yeah. you mentioned it. I've seen Triangle of Sadness.
Starting point is 00:53:27 I'm joking. He hasn't seen any of these. Your dream side dish Harris. I'll try and be a little bit healthy I feel like everyone always says greens and stuff but it does balance it nicely doesn't it if you've got like a bit of a green situation. Especially if your main is bolognese and short rib and sausage. Yeah. Sure. Can I do like Caesar salad? Is that okay as a side? Of course you can. You've hacked it because it's still green but it's covered in cheese. It's covered in cheese and mayonnaise and yeah, I don't really want the anchovies on top like full display. I don't mind them in the sauce, but yeah, that's a nice little
Starting point is 00:54:13 side that can go nicely with more cheese though. What is it about the display of the anchovies that you don't like? You're happy to have them hidden in the dressing, but you don't want to see them on top. To consume all at once, they're too much for me. Don't you think? They're too salty for me. I love them. You love them, yeah. But I'm glad they're still in the dressing.
Starting point is 00:54:32 Yeah. I want the flavor there, but I want the paste. I want them hidden. Not because I'm fussy. I'm not a fussy eater, but I don't know. Having them all at once is a bit overwhelming for me sure I like them, but like I've grown to like them over the years and also you know There's a many different ways to have Caesar salad now. Yeah, and I'm very lucky to be alive in an era Where you just don't know what how this Caesar salad is gonna be what it's gonna come with what's gonna be in there I worry about that though. Yeah, cuz there's some bad Caesar salads out there. Oh yeah, there's some awful ones.
Starting point is 00:55:08 What do you mean there's a lot of different types? Good question. At Mildred's I'll get the artichoke one. It's got these artichokes in it. Caesar salad, it's got these crispy bits of, I think it's kale in there as well. Delicious, but it's still basically a Caesar. Same sauce, cheese and stuff.
Starting point is 00:55:23 The other day I had one from Farmer J's where it's got these like crispy little crackers in it as well. And I'm fetter in there. But that's not a Caesar. Yeah, I know. I think Caesar salad. It's just iceberg or whatever it's called. What else is there? I think it's just iceberg or baby jam. Baby jam out now in cinemas. The John Mulaney. Oh, yes. Fuck. I went for the John Mulaney show show and actually is much more relevant to go for Harris's baby. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:52 But yeah, it's a croutons. Yeah. What about the dressing? What if the Seagulls called baby? Jim is you telling the lettuce what to do is me's me and Antonio Banderas on a quest. Fighting over a lettuce. Yeah, fighting over a lettuce. And that's nothing people talk about, you know, the intimate scenes you have with Nicole Kidman. You had to fight Banderas. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:14 You had to punch Zorro. I know, I know. What's that like? Easy. No, I did have a bit of a moment where I was like, he's very strong. He's a strong bloke. Do you know what I mean? Did you tell him that? Of course I did. Good.
Starting point is 00:56:30 You got to tell people if you think they're strong. I think no matter how famous someone is, no matter how many times they've been told they're strong, I bet that gave him a little boost when he said that. I bet you went, Harry said I was strong today. I bet you wouldn't have said that. Yeah. Even if it's just like back to the hotel, it says it in the mirror. Men are like that.
Starting point is 00:56:47 That's how simple we are as a species. I'm strong. Brilliant. Yeah, great. It's going to get me through a week. Yeah. I'll thrive. I'll thrive.
Starting point is 00:56:58 No, he's lovely though. That was fun. Getting to fight with him. Yeah. It was quite intimate. It was quite sexual really when you think about it, wasn't it? Oh yeah, it was. Just rolling around together on the floor. Oh yeah, the bit where he's having a panic attack and you're forehead to forehead and
Starting point is 00:57:12 you're talking him through it is very similar to what you're like with her earlier in the film. Yeah. A lot of giggles in my screen when that happened. Really? Yeah, a lot of the ladies. What, when I put my head to his? Yeah, a lot of the ladies were giggling.
Starting point is 00:57:23 It's funny what people laugh at, isn't it? Like different audiences. Tell us about it, mate. Preacher to the choir, my friend. Yeah, it must be so strange to have to assess an audience, like, on the spot. Yeah, how do you guys do it? I don't know. I mean, how do you do those brilliant voices? I think that's just watching people, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:57:42 Hearing, watching things. Some people have good ear, some people don't, maybe. Maybe James. What? Maybe some people don't have a good ear for voices. When you said maybe James, I thought you were saying baby gem again. Baby gem, baby gem.
Starting point is 00:57:57 That's a nice song. Yeah. That's good. Should all think about that. Later on, I'll keep that going. Everyone likes him. Baby gem. This is good. The, the baby gem people are really excited now, I'd imagine, listening. They're going to get in contact.
Starting point is 00:58:10 Yeah, the Harrogate people are crying. The Harrogate water people, they're throwing everything in the bin, they're shutting the factory down. The baby gem, they're going, here we go. Yeah, what have I said? It's a new chapter. Yeah, I've been too loose lipped. Honest Caesar, obviously probably not with this as a side dish. Are you having a grilled chicken? It's always nice, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:58:29 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Or pulled chicken's nice, honest Caesar. You know, so you can get in there. But with this, I think I'll do no chicken. Yeah. Can I just add something back to my side? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:39 Some gherkin. Is that all right? Yeah, of course that is. Just a bit of gherkin. Yeah, yeah. I just remembered that was something I quite would like to have in the mix of things. You know, like just a jar of gherkins that you can have throughout the meal maybe. Oh, because you've got a jar just always there that you can just occasionally just nibble
Starting point is 00:58:55 on a gherkin. Is that alright? Yeah. Yeah, of course it is. I like that. That's nice. And are you getting them out whole and nibbling on a whole gherkin? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:04 Is that alright? Of course it is. Do you want to shot the juice as well? Like a pickle back? Oh, I do like a pickle back, but I don't think I'll make that part of the meal. Keep it classy, you know? But there's a, I worked with this guy years ago and he would like often send me, because we would talk about getting in late and being like opening the fridge after a drink and being like, right, there's a pickle, there's a bit of cheese, there's a crisp in the drawer, you know, and just being like, right, I have a bite of that, I have a bite
Starting point is 00:59:33 of cheese, I'll have a crisp, whatever's available to sort of this weird combination of not, it's not quite like worthy of a meal, I don't want to make a meal, I just want to have a few different things. A few little bits. Bitty tea. It's a bitty tea. You keep really pushing this. I'm pushing bitty tea. Pushing the time. Do you know how much he's pushing bitty tea this episode?
Starting point is 00:59:53 I haven't heard him ever do this before. You know I love a bitty tea. Yeah, but you keep repeating the phrase and looking at him and trying to get him to say it. Where does this come from? What do you mean where it's come from? How is this classic? Is it your phrase? A trap door's going to open because it's a trick.
Starting point is 01:00:04 It's not my phrase. Bitty T is not my phrase. I don't know. You know what I mean though. You didn't know what ghost trap was. It seems like you're coining it. Yeah. It says that you're trying to get it in the site ghost.
Starting point is 01:00:12 Yeah. Yeah. Bitty T. Bitty T. When you're getting back. It's going to be a brand of yours. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:20 Yeah. It's going to turn out that's got a new thing. Yeah. When you have that moment where you're just getting together a Bitty T. Bitty T. Are you taking a bite of the pickle, keeping it in your mouth, taking a bite of the cheese, keeping it in your mouth and taking a bite of a crisp. Right, now it's a perv. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:32 That's the pervious question we've had on the podcast. Harris, I'm so sorry. That's not pervy. You know when you want a mix of everything, but it's all set up for it. I know. It's exactly that. It's exactly that. Yeah. Being a perv? Why is that perverted? You're perverted for thinking it's perverted. You're holding it in your mouth. You're holding that in your mouth and then putting that and holding that in your mouth. Also all the flavors mixed together.
Starting point is 01:00:51 It's like when you have a bite of a cookie and then a bit of milk, you try and keep it in there. There you go. So you can experience them both together. There you go. I didn't want to bring the milk back. Let's move on from the milk. Or like a hot cup of tea and a biscuit or something.
Starting point is 01:01:07 You can junk or you can just mix it in your mouth. Do you know what we've been doing lately is a vodka tea. A vodka-vodka tea. Just me and my mates. At a party if you sort of run out of booze you do a little vodka tea. But you run out of a mixer. It's a nice little end of night. It's like a hot toddy. My friend Troy does it, he does a really nice like builder's tea and then puts a bit of vodka in it and it actually works. It's nice, give it a go.
Starting point is 01:01:32 I think you should take that from Ed, that name, hot vody. Hot vody. Instead of a hot toddy, call it a hot vody. Vody tea, I've already got a name for it, sorry. Yeah, body tea is nice. Do you and your friends at the end of a house party ever have a bitty tea? Oh, there we go. You don't have to answer that.
Starting point is 01:01:50 Yeah, no comment. Okay, thank you. Your dream drink. Is it alright to have two? Yeah. I will have a tea if that's alright. Like a good tea, like a proper tea. I grew up in a household where tea was very important for any occasion, you know.
Starting point is 01:02:08 Happiness, sadness, shock. Have a tea. So I do a breakfast tea, a bit of sugar, one sugar or a bit of honey. And then I do a whiskey sour. And I'll do it from... There's a place in New York... I'm not going to say the name. Oh, you don't want to blow up your spot? No, no, it's not that. I don't want to, I don't want to give it to them because they were a little bit rude to me. I love this. A grudge. Yeah. A grudge. I've got a lot of grudges haven't I? I'll tell you what it is though. We, we went there, we filmed there
Starting point is 01:02:39 in this film and then this film. Yes. And then I said, can I come back here with some mates? Cause it's a nice spot. You know, there was like a little, it was like a low lit and there was a piano and there was, you know, music. And I said, this is a good spot to come back to. You know, like I'll bring people back here. Friend was coming to town. And then I said, it's really hard to get a table. All of that in New York, you know, it's all of that like really like sceney like bar, food world where it's so exclusive to get, you can't just go on Rezzy and get a table. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:08 So someone that worked there, they got us a table. We go there and the drinks were wonderful. I'll say they were lovely. Whiskey sour, amaretto sour, beautiful. But you know, we walked in, I wasn't dressed back to the dress code. I wasn't dressed bad, but like I wasn't smart. I never really dressed smart unless I'm going to like an event or something. But you know, the look they gave us when we walked in, it was like peasants that had won
Starting point is 01:03:35 a competition. Do you know what I mean? It was like, I hate feeling that energy. It was like, sorry, can you take your head off? It's like, what do you mean why I take my hat off? I might have, you know, a bald patch in the middle of the head that I want to hide for the season. You know, I don't, just to show you.
Starting point is 01:03:50 I was approved it. Yeah, I got a lovely head of hair. No, but it was like this snobbery. I hate the snobbery of it in places like that. They were also just sort of acting like we kind of couldn't afford to be there. And then you feel the need to kind of go overboard and prove that, you know, I can afford a couple of drinks. I can afford 20 pound cocktails. Thank you very much.
Starting point is 01:04:16 Do you ever leave those places? Like, I've been in that situation sometimes before where you might turn up with some friends or whatever and they'll bring up a dress code or something that you weren't aware of and level it at one of the party. And sometimes it feels good just to go, Oh, sorry, we didn't know about that. Well, we'll just leave if that's not right. If it's a dress code, we're not meeting it. We'll just leave. We'll just go, just go.
Starting point is 01:04:38 We just want drinks. We'll go to a different bar. And that in my head, they're going to go, Oh, no, no, no, please stay. We're so sorry. Instead they go, okay, cool, Oh, no, no, no, please stay. We're so sorry. It said to go, okay, cool. Oh, well that didn't work. So I guess we've got to go to a different pub now guys. I just don't understand it. I don't understand the dress code thing, unless the dress code is like,
Starting point is 01:04:55 you got to wear clothes. Sometimes you see a dress code on the door. It's like, make sure you wear a shirt. Well, I don't want to go in here anyway. If this is the sort of place where they have to remind you to wear a shirt, I'm not going to like it in there. Yeah. No trainers. What do you mean? No trainers. Get the Winkle Pickers out. Yeah. But that's, that's a part of my dream mission as well. If that's okay. Like no, no snobby dress code. Like people can wear tracksuits, people can wear dressing gowns if they want,
Starting point is 01:05:22 you know? Also there's nice, you know, there's nice track suits out there. There's nice dressing gowns. That does not, that does not mean you're not smart. You can wear a lovely, a lovely robe. You got a dressing gown? Yeah. What kind of dressing gown is it?
Starting point is 01:05:34 I've got a blue one, a blue fluffy one. Oh, lovely. Does it, does it? It's not that fluffy, but it's soft. Does it fit you well? Yeah, it fits great. Okay. It fits really well.
Starting point is 01:05:43 I can answer the door in it. Put it that way. I don't have a dressing gown, but I think I'm in the market for a dressing gown I think this is gonna be the year that I buy a dressing gown I think you know like a smoking jacket or something. Yeah, I've been looking at some pretty fancy ones I think have you but they're not comfortable. You just need a big like hotel one I think the things you properly nothing fits me. I've got long arms and long limbs So normally I just look like a little boy, you know, you know undersized dressing gown. But I found one in a hotel and nicked it that was perfectly fit. So that's
Starting point is 01:06:11 that. Yeah. Has it got a hood? No hood. No hood. That's cool actually. Maybe I'll get one with a hood. Yeah. The hood ones are weird though, I think. They are, yeah. Why do you need a hood on a dressing gown? Where are you off to?
Starting point is 01:06:21 I don't like the snooze things. I don't like the like're like, you know, they're like blankets, like wearable blanket. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Ah, it's so infantilizing. Yeah. Yeah. They're on the way out though. They had a very, very short time in the sun, I feel. Do you reckon? Yeah. Yeah. I think for a while everyone was talking about, um, slankies and whatever. And now they're all gone.
Starting point is 01:06:41 Ugh, that word even. It sounds disgusting. Slankies. It sounds disgusting. It sounds gross. all gone. That word even. It sounds disgusting. Slankies. It sounds disgusting. It sounds gross. Thank you. Slow wank. That okay to say?
Starting point is 01:06:52 Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. A slanky sounds like a slow wank. Ed Gamble. I'm just up for a slanky. I may be sometime. But what is that? The need to feel like you can't just say, all right, you know, the need
Starting point is 01:07:08 to make people aware that you in fact can afford a $20 cocktail. Like what is that feeling? Does it come from not... Some sort of insecurity, I guess. I'm allowed to be here, you know, or chip on your shoulder. Maybe none of that existed. Maybe I've just fabricated all of it in my head. Well, this is what I have had leveled at me sometimes.
Starting point is 01:07:29 I think you don't do this anymore. I think you're in a better place now. But there was a period of time where James and I would go to a lot of restaurants together and the waiter or waitress would come over, take the order, be perfectly normal and be like, thank you very much, would leave. And James would turn to me and go, right, she hates me. Oh yeah. Yeah. I just think all weight staff hated us. Yeah. They hate us.
Starting point is 01:07:50 Yeah. Because you feel like you're being inconvenient or rude or? Uh, no, they'll just be like, I would just go to people that like me. Same, same as being on stage with the audience. I'd feel like they don't like me. So I've got to throw this in their face before they can reject me. There'd be a lot of that. But like, yeah, better about it now.
Starting point is 01:08:09 He'd be wearing his slankie quite a lot of the time as well. Not having a slankie. I feel like I am jealous of people that can order very confidently and decisively. You know, people that can just go, yeah, I'm gonna get a side of this, I'm gonna get that, I'm gonna get this, no this, no this. Americans are quite good at that. It drives me out of the wall though. Yeah, when they're just so, bum, bum, bum, bum. Yeah, I'm gonna do this, but you gotta take out that, and then I want that,
Starting point is 01:08:37 and they completely replace the dish. Yes, yes, yes. I'm gonna get a Caesar, but no iceberg, no anchovy. But can I replace the iceberg for pasta? It's like, well. Even when you're playing that character, you said, can I, because you betrayed your true self. Or as they would say, I'm gonna. I'm gonna, yeah, let me get, yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:58 Let me get. Let me get a burger, no burger. I do sometimes, if I'm in America, I do sink into the habit of saying, let me get it. Cause it's quite fun. Disimilation. Even earlier when you were asking for your dream drink, you said,
Starting point is 01:09:10 I'm going to, I'm going to do. Which is very American. Is it? Yeah. I think it is. Is it? Yeah. I'm going to do. I quite like that one. Yeah, that's true.
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Starting point is 01:09:50 Peloton, visit Peloton at onepeloton.ca. We arrive at your dream dessert, Harris. Yes, and for this, I did actually bring you guys a little situation. Oh wow. It wasn't planned, but I was in town last night and I had a slice of it. Yeah. And I thought I should get this for the guys. I should get a full cake.
Starting point is 01:10:21 For the guys? You don't have to now, obviously. I'm gonna. But I'll show it to you. I don't even know what it is yet. That's so nice of you. We're the guys. You don't have to now, obviously. I'm gonna. But I'll show it to you. I don't even know what it is yet. It's a Basque cheesecake. Yeah, I'm eating this. Oh wow.
Starting point is 01:10:31 From, do you want to have a little? Yeah. From some Japanese patisserie. Oh, a Basque cheesecake from a Japanese patisserie? Yeah. That's wild. On Shaftesbury Avenue. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:42 So I thought I might as well get it for you. Thank you, Harry. Thank you so much. That looks absolutely outstanding. Do you want to have a little peek? I'm going to eat it, Ed. Yeah, there you go then. Have a little peek with your mouth.
Starting point is 01:10:52 I have a little peek with my mouth. Have a little go on there. I'm going to eat this one. Is this your dream dessert? Yeah, I think it is, yeah. The Basque cheesecake. Well, I sort of came in with it as a cheesecake, a general cheesecake.
Starting point is 01:11:04 Yeah. And then, was it was it, was it lasted? All right. Yeah, it's held together very nicely. I'm just going to. Oh, you're just going, okay. So there's no chance of me taking a slice of this home because James is just eating it. What are you talking about? I'm not, there's loads you can slice up there.
Starting point is 01:11:16 I'm just taking a chunk off the edge. God damn Kevin McCallistering it. Look at that. That's my life mate. I'm Kevin McCallistering it. Is that nice? That's delicious. Thank you. I'm telling my time. Is that nice? That's delicious. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:11:27 Oh. You're jealous of your own cheesecake. No, I'm just glad. Yeah, oh God. Yeah, that looks really good. The cheesecake, I love a cheesecake. I love just a standard cheesecake, you know? Let me get a standard cheesecake.
Starting point is 01:11:39 Normal cheesecake without all of the frills, without like, you see a lot of cheesecakes now with Oreo or like crumbled Kit Kat and I'm not into that. I want a very normal cheesecake. Normal cheesecake without even any berries or anything just like a... A little berry or a little berry compote might be nice. But that looks delicious. I love this, the burnt bass cheesecake thing that's happening. I think it's so good.
Starting point is 01:12:01 Yeah. And I didn't, you know, I didn't plan it. I just, we were out last night and we had a dim sum and then we we stumbled across this place and I thought well That looks really nice. I'll have a slice had a slice and then I thought I'd bring you guys a full go at it Thank you so much. That's very thoughtful. That's alright. It's the least I can do isn't it? This is cheesecake I just remembered some food questions. I meant to ask you and I'd forgotten to ask you. I'll be annoyed if I don't ask them. That food in Triangle of Sadness that everyone pukes because they eat it. You eat any of that? All the Aspic jelly stuff? Yeah, it was oysters as well, wasn't it? It was full on fine dining stuff. Yeah, he said
Starting point is 01:12:43 to me, the director, he said, how many of these oysters can you eat? I said, maybe 10. And after four, they were so big, it was huge. I said, I can't do anymore. I don't know why I needed to eat real ones that many times. You can't even tell. You're not doing a close up on them. You're sort of behind me. Why am I eating, why am I necking 10 oysters? So a lot of it was real a lot of it was like jelly stuff yeah it's an amazing scene because it is so gross and before everyone is sick you kind of already are feeling sick watching it yeah because of the shit moving yeah the way the food but the food still looks really fancy and high-end like it's supposed to yeah
Starting point is 01:13:21 like it's this fancy place but you're already feeling like I'm going to fucking puke. Like all of this, there's so much food. It's so gross. It's all wobbling. The ships going all over the place. Woody Harrelson is wigging out. It's like mad. And then like when everyone pukes, this is the best. I love everyone puking in that film. The lady sliding up and down in the toilet. Some people really struggled with that. Some people hated that. Like I just remember people coming out of a can and being like, no, it's disgusting. Really weren't able to watch it.
Starting point is 01:13:52 But that is also you have to back those people and agree with them. It's disgusting. It is disgusting. Yeah. If you've got a phobia of sick, it's not the one, is it? Yeah. No. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:01 That's why I fussed. Yeah, yeah, she does. So does mine. Yeah. How did she feel watching it? She covered her eyes. She wouldn't. It's a long scene as well. Yeah. No, his wife has a phone. Yeah, yeah, she does. So does mine. Yeah. Yeah. How does she feel watching it? She covered her eyes. She wouldn't. It's a long scene as well.
Starting point is 01:14:08 Yeah, yeah, yeah. If there's someone on the train that looks like they might, just a little bit drunk, she moves multiple carriages. Yeah, my wife's exactly the same. Like immediately. Not like first hint of it. She's like, nope, isn't that funny? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:21 I don't mind it. I would happily help the person. I'd hope so. You know? I find it funny I'm painting myself as a bit of a vigilante here, but I mean I wouldn't be I wouldn't I don't mind being around it That's grubby Batman Helping people who are being sick. Yeah, yeah Someone's being mugged and going I don't do that. I'm only sick
Starting point is 01:14:47 Calling it sick as well. I only do it with sick. You got the wrong guy. But he's always sick when other people are sick, but he always has to help them. Yeah. That's why he's got a gravelly voice because he's sick all the time. He calls it bat sick every time it's him. Here comes the bat sick. Okay, I'll clean your sick up now.
Starting point is 01:15:08 Leave that alone, it's bat sick. Batman and vomit. Vomit? Vomit? You can still call him vomit, actually. I think it still scans. A rapper would be able to rhyme Robin with vomit. Well, okay. So I think it works.
Starting point is 01:15:18 I'm not a rapper, I've said it before and I'll say it again. That cheesecake was delicious. I'm glad that that's your dessert. Yes, James is now gonna rush through the rest of the episode so he can eat more cheesecake. I can feel it. Well, the rest of the episode, we're at the end. Yeah, that's good. I'm glad that that's your dessert. Yes James is now gonna rush through the rest of the episode so you can eat more cheesecake I can feel it. Well, the rest of the episode we're at the end. Yeah, I do have one more question though Yeah, because we're at the end of the thing. Maybe the checks come in. Oh
Starting point is 01:15:33 He knows what I'm gonna say. Yeah split the bill. Split the bill It depends doesn't it because where do you stand on that stuff? Cuz you're there doing so steeper shemmy says he still gets asked about tipping because of reservoir dogs even though he himself thinks you should always tip. It's Quentin Tarantino who has the opinion that Mr. Pink has in that. So with you, when it comes to splitting the bill, do you agree with your character? No, I think I have been kind of raised in a way that's like, okay, if you've got, you know, if you're doing well and you can afford to treat someone, treat them, and then it kind of goes back in circles, right? Like
Starting point is 01:16:08 if you can do it once and then you get each other back, I don't know. I feel like that's a better way to be than be like, we're splitting it every time. But some people like doing that. I mean, it's individual, isn't it, to each dynamic? I don't know. I'm happy to do like my turn and then your turn, whatever. But then if you've paid, then the next one, are you thinking, what this should be then? No, I don't expect it. I don't expect it. Money comes and goes.
Starting point is 01:16:30 I always say it all comes out in the wash. Exactly. There you go. I've never heard you say that. I've heard you say, bitty tea more than you've said that. When you've said it's all come out in the wash. Whenever the bill comes in, you know, if I get the bill, someone else will get the bill. You're like, eventually it all, you know. know, we're all dead eventually, aren't we?
Starting point is 01:16:48 Exactly. That's something else I say, Harry. Yeah, we're all going to die. As I pay the bill. It lightens the mood at the end of the month. The question is though, is that if you notice that there's always someone that never does, how do you address that? Just let them get away with it, to be honest, and then wait till they've gone and slag them off.
Starting point is 01:17:05 I love having a little bitch behind someone's back, so it's good to have a reason. Yeah, it's important. Yeah. Just because I never pay them. Where do you stand on it? I'd sooner be the one to pay it because I don't care who else has paid around the table. And for ages I couldn't really, like I had to split bills of people or couldn't really afford it So now that I can I just want to do it every time
Starting point is 01:17:27 Yeah, and I want to steal steal the bill from everyone and just pay for it But not if it makes them feel uncomfortable. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I had once where like I met up with some friends that we all Started out in stand-up together. We hadn't seen each other in ages went for some drinks I was quite drunk by the end. I had to leave earlier than them. So my way out I just like thought thinking it was a classy move, just paid for the drinks on my way out. That is a classy move. Next day we meet up again, because it's like, it's a weekend of it, because one of them's in London. And this guy goes, you paid for those drinks yesterday? I was like, yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:58 He went, don't do that again. I was like, all right. I thought it was nice. He's like, no, no, we can all afford drinks here. So just don't, don't do that please. I was like, all right, I thought it was nice. It's like, no, no, we can all afford drinks here. So just don't, don't do that please. I was like, all right, fine. We had a lovely time. And then at the end, when the bill came as a joke, I said to the lady, the lady came along and said, right, here's your bill.
Starting point is 01:18:15 And I went, I'm getting this one. And he went, do not fucking get that. And I was like, oh God. Jesus. I've absolutely, I've absolutely misjudged that joke. Yeah. Did he look at it as if you were like flexing or something? Yeah, I think it was like Mr Big Shot's coming around.
Starting point is 01:18:29 Yeah, yeah, yeah. And fair enough. You got to bear that in mind. You can't be Mr Big Shot. Because that's not what you would do. Yeah, you can. If someone wants to treat everyone, you've got to let them really, haven't you? You can't start trying to say, no, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 01:18:42 I'm covering, you know, it's like if someone wants to do do it, I feel like, let them, it's up to them. I let people all the time. I love it when people treat me. Yeah, it's great. It's great. I love to be treated. We went to, I went to a restaurant last year. I remember it was like kind of group of people I didn't really know very well. So I didn't, I didn't want to buy them all dinner. It was like, I'm going to go and pay for myself. And I was, I was on the way. I was like, I'm going to go get up and pay for myself. And I could tell it was that vibe.
Starting point is 01:19:06 We got like one dish each, didn't drink, like, I'm just going to go and pay for my burger, whatever. And I'm like, right guys, I'll see you later. Bosh, pound the way out. I get texts from someone who was there and they said, thank you so much for paying for everyone's food. I said, I didn't. I don't know why, why you thought that. And then they said, well, the bill was covered by someone. So someone along the, I don't know who, no one in our group paid for it unless I got charged. But I checked. Someone must have paid for it. No, there was five of us. No one paid. I was the only one that paid for my food. So I was
Starting point is 01:19:40 actually annoyed that I had to pay because they all got it for free. And I just paid for one dish and the waiter said, it's been covered. It was the bald man. The thing is, you should have looked down. You were like, it's great that you got the metal things on the bottom of the seats. We could all rest our feet on this. He's there loving it going, the meals are me guys. See a hand reach up around the bar with a card. Just to do the tap. Go
Starting point is 01:20:07 under again. Read your menu back to you and I'll see how you feel about it. You would like San Pellegrino of course you would. You'd like Guinness bread with lots of whipped butter from Cafe Cecilia. Starter you want bread, honey roast ham, marmalade and warm butter from White's. Main course you would like the short rib ragu with sausage ala your dad with Papa deli pizza Papa deli pasta oh my god I'm so sorry how I was so focused on this guy's this guy's insane side dish you bolognese and you're like oh it must be with a pizza Papa deli pizza it says I know you didn't write pizza Benito it It says pasta here, I don't know why I said pizza. You really lost your way over here. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:45 You host a food podcast. Yeah, who knows how. It's a fair mistake. I had a really good chat. It's not a fair mistake. It's a fair mistake. You've been very generous, Harris. You don't need to.
Starting point is 01:20:53 I confused pasta for pizza, Harris. Let me feel the shame and take it all the way home. You would like Caesar salad, no anchovies on the top, but you haven't mixed in with a jar of gherkins throughout the whole meal that you can ping on. I'm not sure I've ever had a pizza with a gherkin on top. I've never had a pizza with a gherkin on top. I've never had a pizza with a gherkin on top. I've never had a pizza with a gherkin on top.
Starting point is 01:21:01 I've never had a pizza with a gherkin on top. I've never had a pizza with a gherkin on top. I've never had a pizza with a gherkin on top. I've never had a pizza with a gherkin on top. I've never had a pizza with a gherkin on top. I've never had a pizza with a gherkin on top. I've never had a pizza with anchovies on the top, but you haven't mixed in with a jar of gherkins throughout the whole meal that you can ping on a drink. You would like to know what gherkins are. Just double check. Cake.
Starting point is 01:21:14 You think it's cake. I wish I'd love it if they pickled cake. Drink. You would like a cup of tea with one sugar. You're like a whiskey sour from a bar that we will not say its name in New York and Dessert like a Basque cheesecake. It could be from anywhere. We've got one here from Sakurado and Shelfsbury Avenue. Yes, beautiful How do you feel about that? That sounds good. It feels quite good. Yeah, that sounds really good Sounds very nice. That's a nice meal. I love the cup of tea and the whiskey sour as you go back and forth back and forth
Starting point is 01:21:42 Yeah, yeah, if you add that on the ship and it started to sink probably be alright. You're keeping it down. You're going back and forth? Back and forth, I think. Yeah, yeah. If you had that on the ship and it started to sink. Probably be alright. You're keeping it down? You're alright? Yeah, I think so. It's the kind of substantial food that doesn't unsettle. What do you reckon? Depends how much cheesecake you have, I think.
Starting point is 01:21:55 I think if I ate a whole cheesecake and then the ship started to get rocky, it's goodnight. On Iron Claw, you actually eat loads of breakfast. Yeah, yeah, I actually eat a lot on that. Because you were eating loads. You were stealing off other people's plates yeah I was yeah you're going for it yeah that character was he was like in real life he was the most he wasn't ripped at all really mm-hmm he was just like a big burly bloke yeah the rest were like you know bodybuilding looking mega ripped yeah and so I just got to
Starting point is 01:22:21 enjoy my food it was great Paul's like Efron was there, you know controlling calories I was just shoving it down. It was brilliant. I'd like everyone if you're listening. Thank you Harris for coming to the dream restaurant Thank you Harris. Thank you so much for having me Thank you so much to Harris for coming on and sorry for roasting the hell out of you I can't believe it. This is how old we are. Is guests now are going to see us do stand up before they become famous when they're growing up.
Starting point is 01:22:53 When they're working in a hotel. Yeah. Yeah. So that's it now. This is going to happen a lot more. And God knows I've torn into a few audience members in much nastier ways or less deserved ways than you've done.
Starting point is 01:23:11 Yeah. Without Jamie Dodger chat. We could have a global megastar sit down and go, James, you said that my life wasn't worth living. Yeah, James, you said that I should have just stayed at home and put my head in a blender and sort of come to the gig because I'm such a shit audience member. I didn't laugh at your jokes.
Starting point is 01:23:29 And now I have an Oscar. I just came here to tell you all that. Thank you. But yeah, goodbye. Goodbye. Leaving the Oscar on the table goes home. Yep. Well, that might happen, but for you, it was the jammy Dodger chat.
Starting point is 01:23:41 And I think it seemed to be a nice memory. Yeah, that was, that was good. I'm glad it was a nice memory. It's not more terrifying than someone saying oh you spoke to me a gig once yeah and That after that and it felt like a thousand years sure you know no was this when I went redhead I went completely into a blind rage and tore into an audience member Harris did not say baby Bell of course Yes, so that's good. He said baby girl and Baby Gem. Yeah sure so we got close. Yeah. He sang a song about Baby Gem. Yeah. And if he'd even dared to put a lyric about Babybel in there we would have been forced to. Yeah to remove him. Drill down
Starting point is 01:24:16 into that. Yeah. Go and see Baby Girl. I've not seen it yet. It's very good film. Yeah. Even for a prude like you, Ed, I think you would enjoy it. It sounds filthy. It is filthy. Yeah. But, you know, thought-provoking and I think it's very considered. It's not gratuitous. Excellent.
Starting point is 01:24:34 And also, I'm very excited about that film that Harris mentioned that he made recently. Yes. His own film was directorial debut. Very excited to see a directorial. So look out for that when it comes out. The one about the Northern man in the steak restaurant. Yeah, I don't think a whole film is about someone complaining about their steak, even though... We'll see. I know if you wrote a film, that's what it would be about. What, my steak? Yeah, you would write it. Someone's
Starting point is 01:24:58 complaining about the steak and you probably would make them Northern. Yeah, it'd be good though, my film. Yeah, oh, listen Ed, no one's saying it wouldn't be good. Thank you. It'd be a very good film but that's not what Harris's film is about. I think that's just one scene. Okay we'll see. Thank you so much to Harris for coming on off menu we will see you next week with another fantastic restaurant guest. Goodbye. Bye. Whether you're in your running era, Pilates era, or yoga era, dive into Peloton workouts that work with you. From meditating at your kid's game to mastering a strength program, they've got everything you need to keep knocking down your goals.
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