Off Menu with Ed Gamble and James Acaster - Ep 276: Emily Campbell

Episode Date: January 29, 2025

Team GB’s Emily Campbell – double Olympic medalist and four-time European weightlifting champion – has a table booked this week. Emily Campbell co-hosts the Unofficial Gladiators podcast ‘Contender Ready’, available on your favourite podcast app. Listen here. Follow Emily on Instagram @emilyjade_gb Off Menu is a comedy podcast hosted by Ed Gamble and James Acaster.Recorded and edited by Ben Williams for Plosive.Artwork by Paul Gilbey (photography and design).Follow Off Menu on Twitter and Instagram: @offmenuofficial.And go to our website www.offmenupodcast.co.uk for a list of restaurants recommended on the show.Watch Ed and James's YouTube series 'Just Puddings'. Watch here. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Promo code off-menu to get your first month of Oxxio free. If only your relationships had a promo code. Welcome to the off-menu podcast, taking the Weetabix of conversation, pouring over the cold milk of chat and sprinkling on the raisins of humor. Raisins, yes, very nice way to have your Weetabix. This morning, Paul Futt. This morning I didn't have my usual supplies for my Weetabix, so I went with dried mango

and grapes. Hello. Not really the best combo. The grapes actually- Well, the grapes are juicy and the dried mango is chewy. Yeah. So you've gone through a wild variety of textures. It wasn't what I'd usually go for. I just went for what was in the kitchen or I've got those to hand or have them, but like, yes, it wasn't, I think you go one or the other on those really. Yeah, I think so. I think it'd be grapes for me. You go one of the other on those really? Yeah, I think so. I think I think it'd be grapes for me. Yeah Well, I don't know Yeah, anyway, that's it. Campbell. My name is James a caster together

We own we own a dream restaurant. Yes, and every single week We invite a guest in and ask them their favorite ever start and make us a cider chan drink Not in that order and this week. I guess this Emily Campbell if you watch the Olympics, you will know Emily Campbell. If you watch the Olympics, you will know Emily Campbell. She is a medal winning weightlifter. Phenomenal. Phenomenal, absolutely incredible. She's won medals in the last two Olympics.

She is so fantastic. I've met Emily before on the show, Great British Menu. She loves talking about food. She's great fun. I can't wait for this episode. Yeah, very excited Is this our first Olympian? Yes, I believe it is our first Olympian James very exciting So not our last not our last please if any other Olympians are listening

We want any other huh? Not any other not any they've got to be a laugh as well. Yeah, you gotta be a laugh Yeah, very the skateboarders or something skateboarders are cool cool Yeah, no, hopefully some more Olympians to come but so excited to have Emily on yeah really excited And look even though we're excited as possibly two little boys can be We will kick Emily out of the dream restaurant if she chooses a secret ingredient Yeah an ingredient which we deem to be unacceptable and this week the secret ingredient is cream of chicken Campbell's soup cream of chicken Campbell's soup Campbell's Emily Campbell But we've already done Campbell's soup because it was Babatunde Alashe secret ingredient because he was wearing the off-menu Campbell's soup t-shirt You'd think it would have been Sam Campbell's secret ingredient. It wasn't too late. I'm gonna for Babatunde

Yeah, but then apparently we're okay. You're using it now. Yeah, we should have done it for Sam and then a different specific flavor Yeah, and then done a different specific flavor for Emily and then everyone who's called Campbell We should have always done a different flavor of Campbell's soup. Yeah, which we're gonna do from now on. Yeah, so watch out Alistair Alistair Bruce There's so many Campbell's we've still got to have on that's's two. Yeah. Any others? Yeah. Who? Max Campbell went to school with him. Hey, Max Campbell is the ultimate Campbell.

Yeah. Campbell sounds a bit like Gamble, I suppose. Yeah. Campbell and Gamble, were you hanging out together? Yeah, yeah. We were good mates. Max Campbell and Ed Gamble. Yeah, yeah.

Fucking hell, that would have been funny. Many people think Gamble is actually a derivation of Campbell. I would not have been able to get over that. Campbell and Gamble. If I went to school with Campbell and Gamble and never running around and also Max Campbell and Ed Gamble as well. There's something about those names. Oh man. I would not have been able to get over it. I would have found it so funny. I think he might listen to this as well. So hello. Look mate, it's funny. And like if I ever have to leave this podcast, you know, let's say I know maybe maybe I'll die before it Max Campbell you got to replace me here

Right. Should we get on with the episode now James? Yes. Yeah. Yeah enough of our nonsense We have an Olympian to talk to this is the off-menu menu of Emily Campbell Welcome Emily to the Dream Restaurant. Thank you very much for having me. Welcome Emily Campbell to the Dream Restaurant. We've been spending here for some time. Finally. I heard the queue was long, so I'm glad you finally let me in. Yeah.

Do you like queuing? Hate queues? No, it's a very British thing, isn't it? Really frustrates me. Like, I was going on training camp to Tenerife and everybody's queuing just for the sake of queuing? Hate queues? No, it's a very British thing, isn't it? Really frustrates me, like, I was going on training camp to Tenerife and everybody's queuing just for the sake of queuing. Then they're announcing that the flight's going to leave, so I start going through the queue. Everyone's getting really mad at me, I'm like,

well, you guys can stand here, I'm going to get on the flight that's just about to leave. It's just, we just queue because we think we should queue, like there's actually no real purpose to it. Yeah, somebody, why are you stood there? I don't actually know, because everyone else was stood there. Flights are the maddest ones as well they try everything. They give you a group number to board, they do it by row number, no matter what they do everyone's just standing up queuing. It drives me on the wall. Yeah, stressed as hell. Also if you've not got much luggage it's really great to just like sit there and watch everyone and be like look

at these idiots. Yeah. Oh yeah. Cue in for a seat you've paid for is beyond me. Like you paid for that seat that is yours. No one else has taken it. I sat there for like an hour. I'm like, yeah, this is a very, I think it's a very British thing. Definitely. You should just walk on the plane. If you're one of those people doesn't queue, I just sit down and when the person arrives be like, I'll beat you here. You should be in the queue. Sorry. Yeah.

Sorry that you're in the window seat. Yeah. My role now. I reckon you can pull that off. Emily. Yeah. You could be just show your bronze medal and just be like, look, I win. Yeah.

Sorry. It's my seat. Do you put that in your carry on or in them or in your, do you check it in your luggage? Great question. Because I would think that's going to affect the weight, either way that's a hefty medal. Yeah, no, definitely carry-on. Not that it's a problem for you, you're a weightlifter, but where you putting it? Yeah, no, definitely carry-on because obviously you've seen how they throw them suitcases

in the bottom. There's just like a little fling and you get about 10,000 dents by the time you get your suitcase back going. So yeah, yeah, keep it, keep it with you. There's like a trend where a lot of the athletes like put it on underneath them and then go through the scanner and obviously it goes off and then they go, Oh, sorry, and then pull it out. It's quite funny to be fair. I've never done it myself personally, but I've seen it on the, seen it on the ground. Have you ever tried to get an upgrade by wearing the medal at check-in?

No, I did, I did on the way back from Tokyo, which was pretty cool, but that was just because like they already knew, but I do have the rings tattooed on the inside of my arm. So sometimes, you know, it's just a quick fix of the hair or something, you know what I mean? So it's not too obvious. And then they're like, Oh, what do you do? And I'm like, Oh, well, it's funny you ask.

Yeah, but I could do that. Yeah. You get tattoos all the time. Yeah. I could just get one and then see if it works. That's it. Yeah. No one, no one will do that. Yeah, you get tattoos all the time. Yeah, I could just get one and then see if it works. That's it. Yeah. No one will ever know. Yeah. But then if they say what sport do you do, then I have to make something up. You do. And I don't know. Let's get your story straight now then. Yeah. But what, so what sport do you think I could say

and potentially get away with it with a member? I think you could say equestrian. Yeah. Okay. The two poshest ones. All right. I was at King's Cross St. Pancras, or just St. Pancras actually. When, you know, they're two rival barbers. I was in St. Pancras. They're not robles, man. They're not robles. Have you been there? It's nuts. Like my side story. I was at St. Pancras when everyone came back from the Olympics this year

and everyone was wearing their medals. And I didn't know it was going to happen. I wasn't there to like greet all the athletes or nothing. I'd say goodbye to my friend and send him off to Ketwin. He wasn't even wearing a medal. And then turn around and all these people with team GB t-shirts. And I thought, Oh, that's cool. People have got the merch. And then I realized they're also wearing medals. It was all, all of you have come back on the Eurostar. Yeah. I think that might've been, I might've been in that queue. I didn't see you. I know what the queue is. Yeah, yeah, because another queue for us all to get out.

What a life. They make a big thing of it, make you aware. We had like a homecoming Euro star and it was all going on. I mean, carriage one was not the most exciting though. We was all so tired that all of us just fell asleep and this guy came up with his guitar and Team GB was like, I don't think you want to go in there because if they beat you up, I can't help you. So he just stood at the door and went, okay.

And we just literally was all conked out. But apparently down the rest of the train, they had a great time. They was partying, we saw footage and we was like, wow, can't believe that was the same train. What was the craziest carriage which athletes like throw down hard? I think it was actually the rowers, you know,

the rowers were really going for it. I think the hockey lot were in there as well, yeah. But they were having a right party, yeah. It was all going down. And yeah, I just saw it on social media later and I was like, wow, didn't know that was the same train. Well, the rowers, they never get to see people's faces half the time. So it must be nice just to be in a carriage and partying with everyone, rather than just looking at the back of someone's head and sitting down.

It's a pretty boring job. It's a fair point, to be fair. And they all came back as well because they finished. So a lot of people came back for the closing ceremony, which honestly I wouldn't have bothered. It was interesting. But yeah, a lot of people came back. So we was a little bit more of like a united front because a lot of people had gone home because they'd finished like a week ago or whatever.

So they'd gone home and obviously because it was only Paris, people just popped back on the Eurostar and came back. So it was a bit of a bigger crew to go. So yeah, we had quite a homecoming train, which was pretty cool. So yeah, you probably got to see a little snippet of that. Yeah, I was very excited. Yeah, I felt like I was watching proper history everyone coming back. I saw one of the rowers actually having a selfie with someone but she didn't look happy about it. To be fair to her. I'd also seen her being interviewed on TV and being like, this is, this is bullshit. She was like, she liked winning the gold medal,

but she was like this press stuff afterwards could absolutely go f*** itself. Yeah. It's true. Everyone doesn't remind you of what comes with when you get a medal. Like you get really excited about the medal and then you realize what actually comes with it and it's like kind of obligatory. You're like, like, I mean, you can't press out and say, you know what? Don't want to do price. I don't want to do it. But then you just like a dick though. Don't you? Yeah. You don't speak to anybody. So you can't win either way. Can you? You got to be just miserable and get through it. We haven't had many athletes on the podcast. So we don't haven't really got to talk about,

you know, the diet of an athlete and like how how you know What when you're a weightlifter? What's it look like when you're in and like you're getting ready for a competition does it change? No, it's pretty much the same to be fair But it's just a lot of food all the time So it's like I have this rule like love hate relationship with food because I'm Caribbean So food is like everything like you know every time we have a party food has to be immaculate else You know it's just not a good party and things like that So I've grown up like eating really great food and love food, but then I'll see when I became an athlete I'm super heavyweight, so I have to keep my body weight up to a certain like level and just eating is a chore

Like it's just when you finish eating and you still fall. It's like eat again like it's Come over last time I felt hungry. It gets to a point where you're like, I'm not actually sure what hunger feels like because you literally still fall from the snack that you've just eaten and then it's lunchtime and then you've got to eat another snack before training and then after training probably the first time that you feel hungry because you've done obviously a workout for like two hours and then you eat that and then it's 45 minutes later it's dinner time and then it's pre-bed snack and it's just yeah it just doesn't stop. I mean I've fantastic nutritionists like she is excellent like she's so good and she's so good at trying

to vary things and keep it exciting because she knows we have to eat a lot but yeah sometimes it's just get it Daniel. That pre-bed one would kill me the most I think. The pre-beds the pre-bed pre- oh yeah. So it's got to be 30 minutes essentially before you fall asleep. So it's working overnight? Basically. What's the pressure there though on falling asleep? Because I, if I know I've got to get to sleep at a certain time, I can't, I just lay there awake. But if I'm like, right, I've had my pre-bed snack, in that 30 minutes I've got to be asleep. Yeah, I can't relate, sorry. I'm like fall asleep like any weird kind of person at any time. Like I have a real skill for sleeping.

I don't know if it's a skill or if I should get it checked out. I'm not sure. I'm like on the border of it, but I could literally be chilling, like having a conversation with someone the next minute. I'm fast asleep. Well, we'll see what happens later on in this episode. Yeah, so. Don't start boring me guys.

I'm sorry. I don't think I'd want that characteristic if I was a weightlifter. Yeah. If I was halfway through a competition, if I got the weights above my head and I doze off, I'm in trouble. Yeah, that's why you take a lot of caffeine, don't worry about that. We would do that to counteract that happening. But yeah, but no, you have a couple, sometimes it's nice to have a nap before as well because

we weigh in two hours before and then you've just got this horrible time where you just sat there waiting, there's nothing ready to do. You can't warm up too early or you can't do anything. So it's just like eat a little bit of something. And then sometimes I think, Oh, you know what? Get a quick 20 minutes in power nap, wake up and then ready to go. So pre-naps snack snack. Pre-naps snack. Yeah. So that'll probably be like, so on competition day is a little bit different in terms of like, depending on when you compete, she'll like basically collect me like a table and tell me exactly what time to eat everything. So that's normally like, it's not really exciting to be fair because she pulls you off fibre, she pulls you off spice and everything that like stops you from absorbing carbs properly.

Spice stops you from absorbing carbs properly? Yeah, sometimes yeah, it's not, sometimes if you're like a gut that doesn't agree with it or whatever or you're not used to it, yeah, sometimes it can interfere with the way that you like absorb stuff. So, yes, she pulls you off that says, normally it's like a chicken sandwich with mayo. But you know, sometimes the staples do the job, don't they? You know, you can't go wrong. It's just as long as the chicken's not dry. Because there is nothing worse in life than dry chicken.

I completely agree. Like, that poor chicken did not deserve to die for it to be dry and unseasoned. Do you know what I mean? Like, that's the stuff that kind of makes me think, you know what, I'll go vegetarian. Because like, how are you going to destroy the chicken like that for it not to be even just treated with a little bit of care? Like, do you know what I mean? That's just my opinion.

Yeah, no, I think that poor, dry chicken probably make a lot of people go veggie. We always start with still a sparkling water. Still water. If you drink sparkling water, you're a psychopath. Standard. It's not nice. You can't convince anybody that it's nice. It's just not.

We have a lot of guests on this that absolutely love sparkling water. Are they all psychopaths? Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. Yeah. Or are they just doing it to please their friends or something? It's not nice. Also, I think anytime we do have like people who are like sports people or whatever on, they choose still water because they're not drinking sparkling and then going to exercise. Cause you got to drink a lot of water as well. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, I'm not going to

front like water in general is just not the nicest really. Like I'm one of those like I'm a squash person. Yeah. I've got those little like travel ones and you know, have a little but I'd rather drink squash and drink water. What was just boring into it? Well, it's just there for hydration. Well, that you have squashes your water course if you want.

Yeah, would you? Yeah. That's great. Yeah. What's like an orange and pineapple or a tropical or something along those lines. Yeah. What's your favourite? Like an orange and pineapple. Nice. Or a tropical or something along those lines. Yeah, solid. Oh, that's good. That just got better, didn't it already? Do you want one of those squeezy little pouches? Is that what you're talking about? The little squeezy ones? I mean, they're just convenient, aren't they? But you know, any squash works,

you don't want to go double strength really because you don't want it to be like weak. Crazy the double strength. It is. You have to be really careful with that, you know. if you get to bit two, it can get a bit too much. It goes to space. It's crazy. Yeah. I have my really sweet as well, apparently, because I remember once we was catching a flight and I was with a couple of the lads that we were going to an international and I said, Oh, come on, finish this.

Cause I can't finish it all. And they were like, Emily, what the hell is that? Like how much juice is in there? And I was like, are these white lefties as well? These big boys? Proper big boys. Yeah. Cause I travel with all the heavyweights. So all the heavyweight boys and I was like yeah these are weightlifters as well these big boys proper big boys yeah because I travel with all the heavyweights so all the heavyweight boys I was like just finish that and they were like that is awful Emily there's like have you got half a bottle of squash in there and I was like no like I didn't

even think it was that sweet as I've been drinking it my whole life you're hardcore yeah you're strong like the squash yeah that's what you gotta tell them wow you gotta go and tell those boys this squash stronger stronger than you guys. Yeah. I'm going to go put that in my hinge profile. Yeah. Have you ever like got one of those little pouches and thought about shotting it? Yeah. Oh no, that is pretty, wow.

You went to a dark place for that, didn't you? I bet someone's done it. Shotting squash. Someone must have done it. Someone's got to have done it. Someone's just. Definitely. What, just that squirted in the mouth.

You know how some like, you see some weightlifters, they use like smelling salts or something? We do, yeah. You could do it instead of that. You could just get a shot, shot it and then go for a one rep max. Maybe we've been getting it wrong the whole time. Maybe squash has been the one. Did you not know about the smelling salts? I don't know about the smelling salts.

Is that if you pass out? Well, yeah, that's used because weightlifters do pass out a lot, especially in the cleaning jerks. Sometimes if you have a heavy clean, you can get like, and then obviously the bars hit off. So then if you don't like, sometimes if you have to look down to like try and release your earwax a little bit. But yeah, just in general, it just kind of wakes you up and just gets you like a little bit alert or whatever. So yeah. And then obviously on the market now there's stupid strong ones, like they're getting crazy with making them. Cause obviously once we've made something, we have to make it like 10 times worse don't we

um so yeah there's like some really really like strong ones but yeah most weightlifters you'll see use uh sniffing salts i don't tend to use them on the snatch but i use them on the cleaning jokes so it looks it's the most stressful sport to watch i'm just like you're gonna you're gonna crumple i can really see the stress in your eyes Every time you lift it I'm like are you fucking kidding me? You're gonna you're gonna fall over. It's gonna trap you like Especially when you put it on the front when it's on the back It's that's bad enough But when it's on the front and your wrists are bending backwards and it's basically like gonna like cut your head off

I'm like, what are they doing? But you know they train so it's not gonna trap them right? They're gonna fall over. But they're pushing themselves. You got a PB. I'm like she done that before. Is that wise? What are you doing? But I mean if you're gonna get a PB do it at the Olympics. Yeah definitely. I mean I would love to disagree with everything you're saying but you've actually got some really strong points. Some really fair points. When you drop it on the Olympics. Yeah, definitely. I mean, I would love to disagree with everything you're saying, but you've actually got some really strong points. Some really fair points. Yeah.

When you drop it on the floor at the end. Yeah, that's the fun bit though. That's the fun bit. That's good about something, hit someone in the face one day. Yeah, if it's too light, but if it's heavy enough, it'll grand. Can't help it. You drop it on your feet. That's what I always think when you're in palm like that. Yeah.

Well, as long as you keep your feet inside the bar, and obviously the bar's like that much off the floor, so the bar will never hit your feet. Even like if you fall back with it as well, as long as you keep your head on the floor, the bar will just roll straight over your head because of the height is off the floor. So you're all right with that. But yeah, I mean, yeah, there's been some accidents and there's been some people, especially people on the internet that see and think, oh, that's really cool.

I'm going to give that a try. And then they end up, like you said, folding themselves like a deck chair. And yeah, it, oh, that's really cool. I'm going to give that try and then they end up, like you said, folding the self like a deck chair. And yeah, it's really, it's really interesting. And we're like, people are laughing at it, but in our heads, we're like, oh my God, that's so bad. Like, yeah, that is so bad. They are going to be literally killing. And they've got people that have dropped out on legs and quads and stuff and ended up like tearing stuff and got like big bruises all the way up. Yeah. It's rough. I mean, when you get to our level, you learn how to bail out of stuff. But yeah, in the beginning you do. Yeah. I mean, you hit yourself with a bar. We do, we do, we do a lift called a muscle snatch. And it's

just basically where you bring the bar through without rebending your legs underneath. Sometimes you bring your head to and smack the bar. So we've got, people have duck eggs in the middle of their head and it's, it won't be the first and last time you do it. It's one of those, you know, could happen anytime. Like, yeah, it's not for the faint hearted as well. No, I'd definitely give you that. It's you've got to be, so awful smashing yourself in the head with a bar and your first thought is I'll probably do that again.

Yeah. Yeah. Awful. And you've got the rest of your session as well. Cause normally muscle slashes at the beginning of the session as well. So it's like, well, get over it. Cause you've got to get the rest of the session done. Yeah.

You got your post session snack in a minute. Yeah. And it's a duck egg annoying. Yeah. You do a thing as well. You lift it over your head and then you're like, you're smiling and everything. You're like, ha ha. Like it's the best thing ever. That's it. I'd like to think, are you not stressed out? No. I'd have it over my head. I'd be like, stop and this fucking thing off me. Next time we train, I'm going to think about that. Get this fucking thing off me. Yeah. Next big competition, you say the worlds are in December, right? Yes.

I want you to do a snatch and scream, get this fucking thing off me. And the people who've heard this will know what it's in reference to. Yeah, definitely. I'll probably have to lift a swearing out though, because we get told off for swearing. Oh yeah? Yeah. They're probably prunes about that stuff. Yeah. If you swear or whatever, like if you're like coaching from the side as well and you swear at your athlete or whatever, they like shout at your officials. It's because the problem is in our sport, right? The officials are made to feel dead special. They get their own little walker and everyone claps for them and everyone, they get to go their name and it's like, oh, behave, like, behave. You're here to do a

job. Everybody knows you. You're great at your job. Thank you very much. Just go and sit in your seats and get it done. But yeah, they get this like, they line us up, announce all of us and then they line all the officials up. We're trying to get rid of it for ages. It's dead boring. Like nobody cares. Like it's literally to fill time and it is the deadest space to fill time you've ever seen in your life. So yeah, so they all feel like they're dead important because they get their little wave of announcement at the beginning. So they get a little bit of energy. Yeah, this is it. This is it. You give people an inch, take a mile, don't they?

Yeah. I mean, no one's meeting them off the Euro stuff. Well, well shit. Pop-Dom's or bread? Pop-Dom's or bread, Emily Campbell? Pop-Dom's or bread? Bread. Pop-Dom's are like, you know what I mean, they're strong, but I feel like they have to, they have to go with the full Indian meal. I think on their own, they're a little bit random, aren't they? But bread, all different types of bread. I mean, people do the whole bread and olive oil thing, which is a bit weird to me. Like I've noticed it before and I'm like, oh, you're just dipping that in oil. That's like really strange. Like I'm more of a like bread and

butter kind of girl. Yeah. Yeah. And bread forms part of your like pre-competition diet as well. You said you have chicken mayo sandwich. Yes. Definitely. Yeah. Bread is a good staple. You know, have it in breakfast, have it for, can have it for meals as well. But yeah, just don't think you can go wrong when the bread's warm as well, it's got to be warm. Warm, put the butter on straight away, melts, jobs are good. In Paris, did you have many warm, fresh baguettes from the bakery? We had a couple to be fair. We stayed in Saint-Germain on Ney for prep camp, which was pretty bougie to be fair.

It was really nice and there was a bakery across the road, which was lovely. You could smell it every morning as well, which is, I mean, there's nothing better than the smell of fresh bread in the morning. So yeah, that was really good. But when you're on the way to training and you know, you can't have the bread quite yet till later. It's not ideal, but yeah, no, it was really good. And then they had a bakery in the village as well, which was pretty cool. And yeah, the bread, the bread they did not lack in, in Paris, as you can imagine their bread skills. And it was really funny actually watching people cause they literally just buy baguettes,

break it off and eat it. Like walking through the street, like it's normal. And I'm like, that's really weird. Cause obviously we just don't see that do we? But that's such a normal thing in France. Cause it's so good. You can just have a little nibble of it on the way home. Yeah.

But by the top off. When you're away with the other weightlifters and you can like buy bread and you're having to the other weightlifters and you can like buy bread and you're having you're having to Eat all this food. Do the other athletes from other sports get really jealous of you? Is there like climbers sat there going? Oh fuck, you know, I want a bag. They're not sad Well, it's funny actually because obviously the other weightlifters they're all in weight classes So they have to cut weight so a lot of them by the time we get to competition on very reduced food

So they're very hangry. Yeah, so they're the. I'm moaning because I've got too much to eat and they're moaning because they want some of what I'm eating. So you've got like the contrast between, but then yeah, do you know what? Most, I was really surprised actually, you know the sports where you think, well, they probably don't eat that much or whatever, but like, like your marathon runners, your long distance runners, all them, they have to get so many calories in because they run so far that actually you see a plate of food and you think, go on, like you didn't think they'd be able to put that kind of food away. Do you know what I mean? Like it was really impressive how they eat and, you know,

triathletes, you know, to keep yourself fueled and that. So really, to be fair, there's not many sports that you will see like really restricted. It's just your weight category sports as they get close to competition, they've got to cut down because they've got to make weight. So your taekwondo, judo, weightlifting, et cetera. Yeah. They've all got to make weight. So the guys, they were going up the wall fast. Honestly, it's like a hundred meters sprint vertical. Oh, it's mad that bonkers crazy. It's so impressive. So impressive. Yeah. I was watching it and I was just like, well, and apparently that they know that course so they know what they're going to do. They know like where they're going to put their

hands. It's just essentially like how fast can they do it? Yeah. So each time they've just got to nail it as fast as possible. But yeah, yeah. Surely they can't be in loads of bread. No, certainly not immediately before. No, put some bread at the top of the wall. Yeah. Now you're talking.

Now you're fast. Yeah. Straight up there. What did that warm again to get a ball? Yeah. Yeah. The top of the top, put an ice cream at the top. You're straight up there. Yeah, I'll again? You don't need to get it with the wall. You don't need to put the top of it down. Yeah, yeah. Put bread at the top.

Put an ice cream at the top. You're straight up there. Oh yeah, I'll be straight. I'd win the Olympics. If there was an ice cream at the top. Standard. I wouldn't even need to know the course. Be straight up there.

J.J. Castle's done it. A novice has just won. Doesn't turn up for the medal ceremony because you've got your prize. Yeah, you've got your ice cream. Thanks. It's been real. I'm live at St. Pancras and my cone around my neck. I'm a champ. I didn't get a specific type of bread off you actually. Oh, I know you

want warm bread with butter. Yeah. Can't go wrong with a good Chia Bata to be fair. Yeah. You're like a focaccia. I can give you both a little basket. Yeah. A little Italian bread basket. That's it. Yeah. Do a little pick and mix. So your dream starter? So I would probably have to say either some like buttermilk breaded chicken strips or chicken wings one of the two. I'm not I'm not not forced but it's got to be in like a honey and sriracha like sauce so like when it's like it's fried seasoned well and then tossed in the sauce so it's like nice and hot. Then with like a garlic dip or of some kind. Yeah. I feel like, yeah, that's a great start. This is solid. And

this is, I mean, we know this chicken is going to be nice and moist. Absolutely. That is number one. Moist is such a weird word in it. It is a weird word. It upsets a lot of people. Yeah. I mean, I'm absolutely fine with it, but it's just, it does just sound, it sounds, I don't know, I don't know what it sounds like, but it just doesn't. Weirdly, I think if you're saying I want the chicken to be moist, that was fine to me initially, but now you've pointed out that moist's weird. When I just said, I want the chicken to be moist, that made me feel odd.

Made you feel weird. Sorry about that. Yeah. I just made something out of nothing. Didn't that? Yeah. You've ruined chicken for me. You know, other people have done that. You, you're only thinking it because other people have said it to you. Yeah. It's a long chain of just people saying it's weird. Yeah. Cause one person said it was whoever that person was in the world. They say to me, you've ruined it for everyone. Yeah. Yeah. What else do you say? Juicy. So you're looking to be juicy. That's also sounds weird. Yeah. Wow. Wow. End of the podcast. That's it. Where do we go from here? Sorry. Is there a certain place where you've had a chicken strips or chicken wings, which you'd be like, I want it from there.

I went to like a wings place in America where I had, they were mango habanero though. Oh, nice. Yeah, that was, they were really good. They were like, they were really hot, but the just sweetness just made you forget about how much it was like burning your mouth. Um, but they, they were really good, but actually something I really liked to make at home, something I make at home all the time. Yeah. So I ever make the, yeah, make the strips or make the wings and then just like

bit of butter, like Sriracha buffalo sauce and honey, and then bubble it down on the stove and then flip them in and just when they're nice and hot. It's really good. Yeah. We can have your own ones. Yeah. You have your homemade strips, homemade wings. Yeah.

I think both, you know, yeah. Yeah. Again, that just do mix and match. You see the thing is, right, because I'm Caribbean, like we have about a thousand things on a plate. Like every time we have dinner, it's about how many items can you fit on there? You go to a party and have like jerk-shaking rice and peas,

planting dumplings, coleslaw, like steamed cabbage. There's like 10,000 things on a plate. So we don't know how to just be like, okay, protein carbs, veg. don't know how to just be like, okay, protein, carbs, veg. Does it make sense to us? We're like, why don't we have a hundred carbs, a hundred proteins and a hundred veg? Cause yeah, it's just, I think it's just the way we are. So I'm just, I'm just greedy. You want a bit of everything. I understand that. If it's all on offer.

Yeah. And like you said, it's dream, isn't it? So yeah, do what you want. Yeah. I think start having both of them is great with the dip as well. Because it's your dream. We'll make sure it's the exact right amount of dip as well. You're not running out. Yeah. Or having loads left over. Or having loads left over. Having to get your weight lifter buddies to finish it for you. This is it. Story of my life. But yeah, no, I always feel like, you know, when you've got loads of dip left over, it's such a waste, isn feel like, you know, when you've got loads of dip leftover, it's such a waste. Isn't it? You know, you've got like loads of mayo packets and you squirt them all out and then

you've got like loads left. You're like, oh, I've just wasted all that mayo for no reason. Now I'm just imagining you carry around this little squash sachets and mayo packets. You've just got so many sachets on you at all times. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. You should see when I go to internationals, I take that seasoning out with me and everything. I'm like, everything. How do you get into like weightlifting in the first place as well? Like you said about growing up, it just made me think about how like, how do you like, that's my sport? Yeah. So I was actually 21 when I started weightlifting. So I was at uni. I went to Leeds Beckett and I did athletics. So I threw a hammer, shot, discus. And I was alright, I enjoyed it. To be fair, I just loved more of the social side of it and going to competitions.

And I was like, oh, you know if I push myself a little bit harder, how well could I be at it? And then everyone was like, you should try weightlifting, because weightlifting will help you throw the shot further, because you'll get stronger and it's good for transfer of power, etc. etc. So there was a coach at the time, and I just asked him, I said, oh, will you teach me this weightlifting will help you throw the shot further because you'll get stronger and it's good for transfer of power, etc. So there was a coach at the time and I just asked him, I said, will you teach me this weightlifting stuff?

Like everyone said it will help me throw the shot further. So yeah, he started teaching me the technique of it, started doing it and just really fell in love with it. Like I just fell in love with the complexity of it. One day I went and it was going really well and I was thinking, I'm getting good at this and the next day I looked like I'd never done it in my life. And it was so frustrating. I just wanted to keep going back

and like make trying to get better and better. And then, yeah, at one point I started, I started it probably when I went back to uni. So I was in my final year in 2015 and started it. And then the coach said to me, well, we're gonna have like a, what we call max outs. That's basically you go as heavy as you can until you fail. And we had a max out and I maxed out what you needed to qualify for the British seniors. And he was like, I know you

didn't want to do a comp because obviously you just want it for athletics, but do you want to just give it a go, see what happens? And I was like, oh, why, whatever. So I went to this comp and it ended up being this, this open actually was near where I live in Nottingham, it was in Mansfield. And I remember saying to my dad, I was like, dad, do you fancy coming to this weightlifting competition with me? He said, weightlifting. He went, yeah, all right, whatever. Like he's just, my parents are just so supportive. Like literally I told him, I was like, I'm going to try weightlifting. Mom said, Oh God, here we go. She's amazing to say, Oh God, it is a crazy idea. Cause I'm one of them. I'm not really that scared

to fail. Like I just think, give it a whack. If it works, it works. If it don't, it don't. I'll just move on and find something else. Like we can't be good at everything, can we? And yeah, I talked my dad to this comp with me, blah, blah, and then I qualified for the British Seniors from that competition. And my dad got in the car and he's a man of many few words, but he talked to me and he went, yeah, you're all right, you know? And I was like, cheers dad. And then that kind of literally how it started really. And then yeah, just start going to, you know, national competitions and then I won my first national title as a junior and then I won my first national title as a senior.

And then yeah, it just spiraled from there. And then they said to me, Oh, we think you could go to Commonwealth games. And I was thinking that this is getting out of control. Like I've been lifting five minutes. I know I'm all right. I want to get back to the shot. Yeah. Yeah.

I was like, you've not forgot why I actually came for. And then, yeah, I had a crack qualifying for Gold Coast 2018. I had one qualifier to do it and I nailed it. I went six to six. Not the girl at the rankings that was already currently in the rankings. Not really, not really. We love you. But yeah, just basically did exactly what they asked of me and then yeah got selected for Gold Coast and that was when really the serious, because up at that point I was winging it. I was just having a blast. I was thinking I'm getting to go to these countries for free and I lifted a few heavy weights and I didn't really have like any structure or anything. It was just like a bit of a, you know, I was still working and everything. It was just like a, you know, hobby for me really that I was really good at. And then after Gold Coast, I was like, yeah, if this is sick, imagine what the Olympics

is like. I was like, let me try and see if I can make the Olympics. I mean, at that point, if you looked at me on paper, they'd have said, all right, baby, dream on. Yeah, no way on this planet I would have made it. But yeah, no, I just, you know, then I started like making decisions that was kind of around training instead of like training being around my life. And then it was just like dialing in with things like nutrition

and training harder and that kind of thing. And, you know, really dialing in and went from strength for strength and then qualified for my first Olympics in 2021. So yeah, exactly five years after I started the sport. Wow. Amazing. I think five years in the standup. Oh, still shit. Wow. Amazing. I think five years into stand up, I still shit. Yeah. Yeah. They saw me. Yeah, I saw you. Do you know what though? It is so much harder than like people make out like

everyone thinks, oh yeah, I'm dead funny. I'm dead funny. And then go stand in front of a group of people and be dead funny. It's a whole different ballgame, isn't it? Like, well, yeah. See, I thought you were starting to talk about weightlifting again. And I was like, yep. And then when it was like stand up, I was like, no, no, no, it's not. I'm not putting the weight on the front of my neck. I'm not doing all that stuff. Do you get people like that?

Have you had that with weightlifting people going, I reckon I could do that. Oh yeah. All the time. Obviously, especially men. Bless them. Yeah. Shout out, fellas. Shout out to my dogs. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's

dead easy. Like I remember once actually I had a party at my house and some of my friends came over and he bought a couple of his friends and he was like chilling with his boys outside and one of his boys was like, yeah, it's dead easy. And his friend just went, don't ever embarrass me like that again. It's not that easy. you can't do what she does, don't embarrass me please. His boy was probably like, yeah that's easy man, I can do it, I can do it and my friend just looked at him and just went, don't you dare, ever again. But yeah, it is funny. But the thing is, it's really funny actually because at an elite level it is probably one

of the hardest sports that you can do, but actually grassroots is very accessible. It looks hard, but if you have the right people around you and you start in the correct way and you start with the correct weights, then it is really easy and people will be really surprised actually what they can achieve. So I do think in that way you can. It's just when these people just think, oh, because I've deadlifted 70 kilos, I'm going to try and clean it. Like it don't, it don't work like that.

It don't translate over. It's so technical. It's like, it's not just the weight, which I think a lot of people go, I could do that. Definitely couldn't even do the weight. It's every single movement and you've got to have it completely locked in, haven't you? Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Yeah, it's so technique. Like when I started, I was obviously really strong from the shot and I trained hard and I was humbled, like absolutely, and weights that I was probably strength-wise capable of, I was nowhere near in weightlifting because my technique wasn't there and it is just about drilling and keep going over and over again.

And this is why technically we like to get kids into weightlifting around eight years old because they're really good at learning the technique and it's not about putting the weight on, you can give them a wooden pole or bar or PVC or whatever. And it's just about them drilling the movement over and over again. Cause then once you've got that locked in, then getting strong is the easy bit. Whereas when you have to do it in reverse, you have to like really humble yourself cause you're like, I've got to go back down to basics and get this bit right until I can actually put some weight on. So yeah.

That's why it's a lot easier just to say, Oh, I could do that. And then never try. Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. You don't have to follow through. I wish I'd done that with stand up. Yeah. I wish I'd been one of the I'll be real happy now. Well, as a bloke in a pub, just said, I could have done it. Yeah. I'm funny. Great life. I could have done it. Listen to off menu. Yeah, I'd gamble in ishkmaar. I just go I'll be funnier than these pricks Be great Technique things mad. Well, what you do when you bend down to pick it up You put your hands on the bar and then you move them to somewhere else on the bar I remember watching it and being like I want the father

She's not riffing it in the moment. I'll be absolutely, I'll be absolutely fucked before I even picked it up. You go at that, you put them on and then you go, what? And then you move them again. I don't even know what that's about. But you seem to be imagining it as if you're in the Olympics and you've never weight lifted before. Because you would have done some training, they would have, you'd be taught how to do it. I don't know, man.

All it is is that- Something you can't teach. Everyone's different to be fair. What it is, is there's, there's like what we call rings on the bar in between the knurlings and it's me measuring that my hands are in the right place. So I'm about a thumb and a half whips away from those where those rings are. So it's just me measuring that out so that I make sure I put my hands in the right position each time.

Genius. Because again, yeah, if you, if you grips off, you know, because we have to be completely locked out. So if you've got one arm that's in and then you obviously flip right and this one goes in after, they'll do you for it. And honestly, I mean, I mean Tokyo Olympics, if you wobbled your eye in the wrong way, they did you for it. There was being so savage, it was unbelievable. So you have to make sure everything's like bang on the money and perfect.

They're fucking officials, man. Honestly, I told you it's because you get that walk out. Yeah. Walk out and wave no more kids, honestly. And it must be annoying, especially in your sport, knowing that you could beat them up. Yeah. I mean, that's the thing, they're all- These pipsqueaks are scoring you down. Some of them are ex weightlifters.

Not sure how good they were, but yeah. Yeah. So they're livid, they're jealous basically. They're jealous. Probably. Never even thought about it like that, Ed. They're jealous. They are. That's why they give us so many red lights. Wow. A bunch of pipsqueaks. You should call them pipsqueaks for their faces.

Pipsqueaks. I haven't heard that phrase in a while. Yeah, I haven't heard that phrase in a while either. Probably. Never even thought about it like that. They are. That's why they give us so many red lights. Wow. A bunch of pipsqueaks. You should call them pipsqueaks for their faces. Pipsqueaks. I haven't heard that phrase in a long time. Strong one though, isn't it? Yeah.

Pipsqueaks. It is good. How about that as a compromise? They're allowed their walkout, but someone has to say, please welcome the pipsqueaks. That's actually genius. There you go. Everyone's happy. I'm going to recommend it when I go back.

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Like one of those you just like rip the bag open, let it all fall down, all the different seafoods, potatoes in there, eggs, get a bib on, get your gloves on, crack it all open. Yeah. Love it. I absolutely love it. Yeah. Proper, just a messy food as well. Yeah. Proper messy, but it just tastes so good. Loads of like garlic butter to dip your lobster and your crab and that in. So there's lobster, there's crab, shrimp. Shrimp, yeah. big king prawns.

So you feel, I do like mussels. So yeah, just I'm like any seafood really, there's not really a seafood. Yeah, we're both gonna make a shit joke there when you said mussels. Yeah, I do like mussels and then we're like, ah, why bother? Oh wow.

It's just, I mean, we both looked at each other and went, yeah, wait, let's do muscles. Yeah. Muscles. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, all the listeners just did it at home anyway. Just did the joke. Do you like your light muscles? No pointers. You got enough of those already. Yeah. Exactly. Shells on with the muscles? Yeah. You're getting into them? Yeah. Yeah. Get into them. It's not a dainty meal, is it? I mean, you may as well leave the shells in, just get headlong into it. I feel like it's part of the experience, though, that cracking it open and digging it out

and all of that. Obviously, it's fiddly work, isn't it? Getting everything out and whatever, but hopefully they've cleaned everything properly before it's been boiled. But yeah, it's- Corn on the cob in there as well? Corn on the cob, solid. Absolutely, yeah on the cob solid. Absolutely. Yeah. Absolutely.

Got to have a bit of veg, aren't you? Yeah. Just a little bit. Just to say you take the box. Yeah. Really no one actually really cares about it. Yeah. That's what you're talking about.

Just help everything go down. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Got to have the fire to keep people moving. I'm having a poppin' song about corn on the cob. Makes it a bit better. Yeah. I remember it. My friend Tom does seafood boils for delivery. boils for delivery and then you, it has like the instructions and you just do it all. Yeah. It's amazing. That's brilliant because that's

been needed for a very long time because it is a nightmare to try and go out and get all the ingredients separately. Yeah. Yeah. He does. He does like pop-ups as well. So well worth looking out for. Decatur is the name of the company Okay, so yeah, what do you want on your bib? Do I design on it? This is your dream meal You get your dream bib dream bib because you haven't had a bib on the pod yet I don't think we have had a bib on the pod. Yeah On the pod bib on the pod on the pod it's quite fun to say I think it'd have to say, it's bib on the pod. Bib on the pod. Bib on the pod. Bib on the pod is quite fun to say. I think it'd have to say thick and juicy, because that's what I am.

Yeah, yeah. Absolutely. Say that on it. 100%. A little cartoon prawn on there or something? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, rocking out. Yeah, why not?

Doing some weightlifting? Yeah, why not? Why not? You know, self-s's my whole identity now, so you know, weightlifting has to be part of everything. Well, it's part of your brand, right? If you're wearing the thick and juicy bib, then it's got to have a weightlifting prawn on it. It's got to have a weightlifting prawn on it, yeah. Yeah, it can have like a little like, you know, the hammer on the floor to represent your past. Yeah, oh yeah, just in the distance. In the distance, yeah, shot port, yeah, why not? Let's get it all on there, let's get story on there guys.

Would you be allowed to do two categories at the Olympics? You absolutely can. Yeah. You can qualify for two sports, but obviously you would have to qualify within both sports or whatever. Cause every sport has their own qualification system in terms of making the Olympics. So you just have to make sure that you participate in the two of them. But yeah, I'm not sure if I'd be, uh, be able to be world-class at two of them. I mean, especially the women's shot at the moment, the women's shot is like off the chain at the moment. The girls are throwing like 21 meters.

So if you think about that, like how far that actually is, it's insane. It also seems to me like everyone who's at the Olympics has dedicated their entire life to that one sport. So you can't dedicate two lives to something. Yeah, yeah. It takes a very special person. I mean, my good friend, Kadino, she in Tokyo and Rio did cycling and athletics. She used to win gold in both. Yeah. First woman in

56 years to do it, something crazy like that. I mean, she is absolute superwoman, but yeah, she's the 500 meters sprint in cycling and then 400 meters on the track. But I know how tough it has been for her to train for the two sports, like to try and split your time between the two. You just cycle to running training. Yeah, that's the point. I think, I don't think you get credit. If one of them cycling, I've got mates who cycle to the office. Wow. This is it. Do you ever go up to the people that like they're doing shop and stuff and cause you used to do it, like be like the guy at your party. Be like, I could have done that. Yeah, yeah. Oh yeah.

Like around the village. Say it to each other all the time. We all sports easy. I tell Tom Dean all the time like swimming is dead easy. Like just get in, don't die. Swim to the other side. Get in, don't die. Yeah. He's always like, oh, you're always training. I'm like, yeah, well, we didn't have to, we have to actually train for our sport. I was like, you just do a couple of sessions a week. You'll be fine. I know it's actually hard, but if part of the technique is don't die, it's quite a hard sport. Yeah. I'd say if don't die is one of the things you've got to focus on. But that's a broad

note for everything. I mean, to be fair, yeah, you could apply that to every sport. I mean, some of those teams sports are savage. They're like smacking into each other. You ever seen like wheelchair rugby? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Those guys are... Murderable.

Wow. Yeah. It really is something. Yeah. I'll be... I wouldn't even move. As soon as the whistle blew, I'd just be in my chair, but I'm not going... I'm not doing this. Dream side dish. I'd probably say a mac and cheese.

Yeah. Yeah. Nicely baked as well. You don't want the cheese sauce too runny. You want a bit of sauce, but like in the Caribbean, like we have it like it's like a pie, essentially. Good bread crumbs on the top. Nice melt. Bit of parsley to finish it off.

Watch a video on YouTube of, I think it was five people all made their mac and cheese, I think they were all from the Caribbean as well, and then they were trying each other's ones and scoring them. They were savaging how they were scoring each other's mac and cheese. They were like, this is, I would not sell this at my house. I can imagine that could start a world war. That's pretty close to starting a world war. That's wild behaviour. Specifically in the Caribbean. Yeah, just in the Caribbean. But yeah, I can imagine that got pretty intense.

A lot of the criteria you just described as well, people are like, this is too runny. I would not serve this at a party. And also, but bigging up their own ones, obviously, because they were really proud of it. Every time I have a barbecue, everyone comes over, everyone loves this. People can't get enough of it, everyone asks for thirds. It's true, it's pressure. Yeah, I actually remember my friends had a party and I cooked like two real big trays of it and I was like sweating the whole time because I'm thinking, I think I'm banging at mac and cheese and if these people don't like it then it's just basically throw everything

out the window of what I believed in myself. Wow, that's quite... For an Olympian to say that, that's pretty... Everything you believed about yourself is mainly that you make good mac and cheese. Yeah, absolutely. But thankfully they all loved it. Unless they was lying to me. But you know... You got a secret when you make it? Can I reveal that? Yeah, so that's what you've got to ask yourself.

You need to get a good hot sauce. A good hot sauce that goes into the cheese sauce then. And take time with your cheese sauce as well. People like to rush cheese sauces, but you've got to make your roux properly and then it's got to be the right amount of cheese and milk and that in there. And you've got to, it's all about layering. It's all about layering your sauce, layering the flavors in. Do you talk to your cheese sauce as you're making it?

Absolutely. Yeah. Well fair enough if the answer's yes. But just the way Emily said, you've got to take time with the cheese sauce. Oh yeah. Yeah. So it's just- It seemed like a wild question, but then the answer was yes. Good intuition Ed. You talk to it.

You taste it along the way and you get excited because it's starting to come together. Yeah. I mean I just had to talk in general anyway. When I'm cooking, honestly I think you could make a show out of people sitting in another room hearing me cook in the kitchen. I'm on my own completely and you would think I'm having a conversation with someone. So yeah, you just get into it. Once you get the tunes on and you get rocking and rolling and you know, you've got 100 dishes

to get on one plate, you know, you've got to get cracking, you've got to get in the mode. So what do you say to the cheese sauce? Are you kind to the cheese sauce or are you like, come on you cheese sauce bitch? I think it depends. Like you get in trouble for that at the end of the day. I think it depends on, yeah, I think it depends on how it's going. Yeah.

You know? If it's working with you or not. Yeah, that's it. We're all happy when things are going well, aren't we? When it's going. Yeah. You know, if it's working with you or not. Yeah. That's it. We're all, we're all happy when things are going well, aren't we? When it's not. All of a sudden the side comes out. We didn't know we had. What hot sauce do you use? I actually, it's a homemade one and I can't remember the brand. Um, but they used to come on Nottingham Christmas Market every year. You don't come anymore. So if you know who you are, you need to come back please. Um he's got like this, basically his own brand hot sauce on there. It's like, it's called a Caribbean hot sauce, but it's got a little bit sweet, a bit spicy and it's

really nice. It really, really compliments the mac and cheese well. I think I've got like one bottle left, but yeah, I need to find out who that person is and track them down. What else is on this Nottingham market? Is it Christmas market? It's Christmas market. We have a good Christmas market to be fair, Nottingham. Yeah, we have a good one. There's quite a few bits and bobs. I mean, lots more food and stuff now.

And then obviously they've done like a bar and we have the ice skating rink and all that nonsense. But there used to be some like really good stalls of, yeah, just cheeses, hot sauces, things like that. And then there was like obviously little trinkets, you know, the ones your mum loves to go and walk around and get a thousand things from. And she's dragging it. Oh, look at this. Oh, look at this. And you're like, yeah, that's lovely mum. That's lovely. That's same as the one you just picked up. That's really nice. That is, you know, you get dragged around for like an hour. Everyone's done it. Everyone's been

there. But she's your mum. So you do it. Yeah. It's quite a good, quite a good market to be fair. We try and make an effort to go down each year and have a look and see what they've got on store. But yeah, definitely taking more of the food stands are taking over a little bit more now than the actual stores. But yeah, I like to buy from small businesses, small businesses, people that are different and out there trying things like that. I like a lot of black owned art as well. So I try and find artwork for my house from black artists and things like that. So yeah, that's something that's quite close to me. So anything like that, I'm pretty sold. What's the, what's got pride of place amongst the art that you got in your house? What's your, what's your favorite piece that you show off to people?

I've got canvas in my room. There's a pretty cool one that actually had for a shoot. I had to have an imaginary bedroom for a shoot and they gave it to me after, which is really cool. So that's now in my bedroom, but it's like I have a woman and it's got like flowers painted behind her and it's got like really powerful words, like all over, all over her body. Ed's actually in my house as well. It's a photo from when we was on Great British Menu. It's a good photo. Yeah. Ed's in my living room. Yeah. You know, it's good photo. We look good. Yeah. You got a lovely day. That cool school shirt on or whatever it was. Yeah. I'm a cool guy. Yeah. We look good. I keep telling him. I'm a cool guy.

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Everyone, send Emily as much art as you can. Try and get on that stairs and landing. Also, you know, British comedians, if Ed Gamble could get on the wall. Yeah. We've all got to try and get on the stairs. You got to get on the stairs. I've got to get on those stairs.

That's it. We're going to have a photo after this. Yeah, maybe. If the photo's running off. Yeah. Yeah, we'll send you a decent picture. Sounds good. Sounds good.

When you're talking about hot sauce there, I just remembered a hot sauce that I love, but I haven't had for ages, which is Caribbean hot sauce. Aunt May's. Have you had Aunt May's before? Oh, Aunt May's is a good one. And it comes in like the, it looks like a lemonade bottle. Yes. So good. Yes, that is a good one. I can't remember where I tried that. I think that was at like a family

friend's house or something. And I was like, oh, this is really good. Like, I think it's like from Barbados. Yeah, I think, yeah, yeah, I think it is. Yeah. Yeah. I've never heard of it. You've got to get some Aunt May's. You've got to get I think it's like from Bob Eidos. Yeah. I think, yeah, yeah. I think it is. Yeah. Yeah. I've never heard of it. You've got to get some art maize. I'll get some art maize in your life, change your life. And then you get on the stairs.

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I'd rather not drink. So for me, I like mocktails. So like anything like really fruity, like tropical. So I'd say probably like something with like pineapple juice, maybe a bit of grenadine in it. Mango, mango daiquiris. Mango daiquiris is a strong one. Just drinking that in Jamaica quite a lot.

But yeah, anything like anything mocktail style, basically just a load of fruit juices banged together with something fizzy. Posh squash. Sold posh squash. Yeah. Yeah. But we'll, we'll save the squirty squash for the, for the water. Sure.

Yeah. We won't get that involved as a mocktail drinker Do you get annoyed when they stick virgin on the front of a normal cocktail? Cuz I hate asking for that cuz I'm like cover virgin mojito I don't have to you have to every five of me is trying to say to them. I've had sex Yeah, I'm not a virgin I just want want the drink that has alcohol in it. But you know they're not thinking that right? They are thinking that.

Do you reckon? It's impossible to say to someone, can I have a virgin daiquiri and they're like, this boy never had sexual intercourse. Do you know what I mean? I think that might be your vibe rather than the drink. I was about to say I can't say that I've ever felt that way. Yeah, I guess when you carry yourself the way that I do, you do have to feel like everyone thinks I'm a virgin and I have to explain it all the time to people.

That I swear down on that. Do you not think explaining it's making it worse though? Yeah, yeah, definitely. Yeah. They don't seem to believe me. Virgin Mojito, please. I have had sex. Yeah.

Virgin Mojito. Or when people are like, no, you haven't. No, I really have. Yeah. I swear. Yeah. I've had it and it was great. Two thumbs up. Yeah. Yeah. Kiddy used to sit next to me in school and he would just, you know, everyone else was pretending they'd had sex at that age. They'd be like, you know, get back from summer holidays

and been like, yeah, yeah, I totally did it with someone. And she goes to another school and she lives in another country or whatever. But he was like saying to me, he was like, I've never had sex with you. I'm a virgin. And I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah. I had done it. It was like, man, it's going to feel so good. I can't wait till we get to have sex with people one day. Can you imagine?

And he would sit next to me in RE class and he'd go, can you imagine how good it's going to be? I can't wait to do it. And I'd be like, yeah, but it'd be good. It was like, it will be amazing. I can't wait. All I want to do is do it. I would have sex so badly. Wow. I really hope his first time was everything. It was all cracked up to be a lot of pressure to put on it. It's too much pressure. Yeah. Yeah. Bless him. I actually, I mean, we can not talk about this if you want. This is just, I didn't

plan to, but I had to write something once, a scripted thing about the Olympic village and do research into it. No virgins there. Yeah. Yeah. That place is bananas. It's a bit, we don't have to talk about it. No, no, absolutely. I mean, everybody wants to know, don't they? Everyone always asks the question. But yeah, obviously, you just got to imagine it's like lots of very good looking people all in one place that have been disciplined for four years. And now you're not disciplined anymore because the one thing that your whole life has been dedicated to four years is now over. So you can do whatever you want for the next, you know, how many days. And you're not going to see these people. You might never see these people again. You might not see them into another four years.

So yeah, people just get a bit, um, you know, that sounds pretty reasonable actually. Yeah. It's really mean you put it like that. You know, a reasonable take on it. Yeah. I mean, some people I don't think wait until their events done. Um, but that's their business. What? Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, we're not events done. Um, but that's their business. What? Jerry? Yeah. Good to qualify for that. But yeah, we're not actually at the event, but you know, in the downtime, but yeah, I think it's, um, it's perfect for me. That's good.

Like deliberately misunderstand something. Yeah. He loves it. Yeah. It's good. Yeah. The swim is apparently there. Yeah. I heard they. Yeah. The swimmers apparently they're there. Yeah. I heard they're pretty, well, I mean, they are wild. Like I'm not sure about the

sexual activities. They're in their trunks all the time. They're hoarders. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. 100%. That's what I mean. But they are. Yeah. They're absolutely wild. When they party after they finish, they really party. Cause they finish early. Yeah. They always finish in the first week. So yeah, they love to party when everyone else is still trying to compete. I mean, I missed them this time.

Cause I was the last day of the game. So I'd actually didn't get into the village until the swimmers' board left. But yeah, I heard they was partying hard again. I mean in Tokyo, yeah, there was like swimming, there was like these fountains and apparently they were swimming in the fountains and all sorts. And yeah, they was having a real good time. They love swimming. Yeah they just love it.

You know what I mean? It's just them, it's their identity you know. What moctow are we going for specifically? I know we didn't really nail it down, it was a bit wishy-washy. As you said mango daiquiri. Mango daiquiri is a strong one. Brilliant. Yeah let's go with that.

Your dream dessert. We arrive at the dessert. My favourite course. My favourite dessert. My favorite course. So I very controversially don't really like chocolate. If I do, it has to be white chocolate. But I think my dessert would be cheesecake. So pain and simple New York cheesecake with fresh fruit or fresh compote. I'm very like, I do like strawberries, raspberries, that kind of vibe, I think with a compote and then some form of like ice cream on the side.

Can't beat a bit of cheesecake. Yeah. I mean, tell me just something. You hear that? It's been mumbling every now and again throughout the whole episode. It has been. I'm hungry. I didn't have breakfast and then we started talking about seafood boils. Yeah. As soon as you start talking about the seafood boil, that's when I heard it the first time. That's it. Yeah. It really tipped you.

Yeah. It's gone. Why don't you like chocolate? Don't know. I just think it's very overrated. Don't really. Yeah, I don't. It just doesn't do anything for me. James was really worried when he said, controversially, I don't like, he thought you were going to say desserts.

So he was all ready to get really angry with you. Yeah, I can't. I can't get angry with you. Kick the fucking shit out of me. I'm just talking about I can't fight, so it's all right. Come on. I'm a virgin about I can't fight so it's alright. Come on I'm a virgin mate. It's true. I'm not going to get angry at you but I would have been sad if you didn't produce a dessert. No I've definitely got a sweet tooth like love desserts

or whatever just not chocolate based desserts like if I was to give him like a chocolate pudding or cake or brownie or anything that that's like my worst nightmare. So yeah. Your worst nightmare. Yeah. Nice, pretty nice life, I guess. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

If the brownie's your worst nightmare. How does this grab you? I've got a slice of cheesecake in my fridge at the moment. If you think this has gone too far. Apparently it's protein cheesecake. Oh, honestly, they want to make everything protein based these days. And it's mad. Just give it up. It's got a cartoon of a barbell on the side. Is it actually? Yeah. Well, that's outrageous. Does it taste all right? I've not, I've not had it yet. It's

an individual slice. I don't know what, I don't know why I've made it to be honest. It's probably made out of like cork or something. Yeah. Something weird like that. I just, we just, we just, honestly, this is a big gripe of mine. This whole protein thing, like we don't need to make everything protein. Like they literally going to like, they've even tried to make water protein now. Like it's actually getting out of control. Like there's foods that have protein in them. They're just fine. They're lovely. Like the foods that haven't just leave them without. We don't need to keep doing it all the time. It's not when we keep making these protein yogurts. Yogurt has protein in it, like already.

Why are we putting more protein into something that already has protein? Just doesn't make any sense to me. It's just this whole new like fad and whatever and it's people that have no clue what they're doing, bless them, going out and buying. And really I said like, unless you can like, unless as a female you can squat over like 60 70 kilos And there's a man over 120 stop buying protein products. They're not gonna help you. Yeah, you know what I mean? Yeah I saw a really I'm fine

Also a really tough looking 25 tough looking guy Like a solid tough looking guy come out of Tesco, eating a crunch corner. That was funny. You see someone really, really tough. Just like standing in the street. Yeah. That's why he had to put it on a style. Well, he had to put it on top of a bin to open it up.

Yeah. And then, uh, and then he didn't tip it. Actually didn't tip it. He had his shades on and he was acting like we're called to call to tip it. He talked to his friend walking along and his friend was much shorter than him. And they're just walking. He's got a crunch corner in his hand and they're talking about what they're going to get up to. He's like, the day is young. Come on, let's go out and get it. And he's like, you got a crunch corner. And the one with the little, the little like cocoa balls. Yeah. That one as well.

Like he didn't tip it. So he was like, I. That one as well. Like he didn't tip it. So he was like, I didn't know, you know, he didn't tip it when it, when I was watching it, when it's the tip, maybe his small friend had the little balls. Every bit is a little shot. Yeah. Tour it off. There you go. Yeah.

There you go, buddy. There you go. Good. Protein. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh man. I didn't know all this about protein.

I know of protein water. Yeah, and they're like, they're like protein pancakes, protein. There's like literally like a whole range now of everything that's just like protein. And it's like, sometimes it's even a rip off. Like I eat a lot of cottage cheese. I've got like one of the most elite snacks, I get sweet chili rice crackers and cottage cheese and like eat them together after training. So good. And there was like, Oh, protein cottage cheese. So I picked it up and I looked at the back of it and it probably has 0.2 or

three more grams of protein in than the normal cottage cheese. So it's like they're charging you probably another one, two pound more for something that actually really don't have much difference than the normal cottage cheese. There's just a lot of marketing, isn't it? It is. I think they're hoping that if someone sees protein on something like, I'm going to eat that and I'm going to get such big muscles. Yeah.

I'm going to be hench and you're absolutely not. Yeah. So I still bought the cheesecake. Yeah. Yeah. Well, it's one of these kind of idiots. I'm a sucker. I'm putting it ahead.

For the listen. I mean, you've got to let us know how that cheesecake tastes now. Yeah, I will a sucker. I'm pointing at Ed. I mean, you've got to let us know how that cheesecake tastes now. Yeah, I will. Absolutely. You've got to have it on another episode. You can tell us how nice that. I bet it's not. I bet it's not good. And it's only like 12 grams of protein or something. Seven egg. I'll give you your menu back to you now. See how you feel about it. You would like orange and pineapple squash, double strength with your water. You want warm chabatta and focaccia, bread basket with butter. Starter, you would like buttermilk, breaded chicken strips and wings with honey and sriracha

sauce made by yourself. Main course is seafood boil with your own bib, custom made bib. Side dish, baked mac and cheese also made by yourself. Drink, you would like a mango daiquiri mocktail. Dessert, New York. Virgin. You would like a mango daiquiri mocktail. Does that New York June. Some of us are saving ourselves. Can't wait.

It's going to feel so good. It's going to feel so great. I can't wait to do it. Can't wait. I think about it all the time. We know when you order a mojito that you've done it. Mojito please. You go back to the same place. Hold the virgin.

That's how things start. Dessert, a New York cheesecake with berry compote and ice cream. Yes. Good menu? I'm pretty happy with that. I think that's solid. Yeah, that is good. Yeah. That sounds really good.

Quite a lot of your own cooking on there as well. Yeah. Which is great. Don't get me wrong, I love eating out, but I think that's a lot of what I do is I eat out and then I think, oh, how can I recreate that at home? Yeah. And then I go home and try and like make my own version

of it. But yeah, no, I just love cooking. I love cooking. I think it's something you definitely do on your own. You don't do with others. Really? You can cook with others? Yeah, people in my kitchen stresses me out. What do you do if people come in your kitchen?

Get out. Thank you. It's really nice to see you, but if you're going to stay there, can you stand over there please? And coming back to what we started talking about at the start of the episode, if you ate all of that,

if it was your meal, how soon after that would you have to eat again? To be fair, that's like incorporated snacks, I think, and everything, because that's a pretty big meal. So I probably could get away with probably not eating for probably about four hours, and then I'd probably have to eat again. And then pre-bed snack, and the cottage cheese comes out. Yeah, yeah, beef jerky's come in and then that's it. We probably have to eat again. And then pre-bed snack. And the cottage cheese comes out.

Yeah, beef jerky's come in and then that's it. We're ready to go again. I'm aware we've been talking for over an hour now, so you probably need to eat something. Yeah, no, absolutely. We're probably responsible for you going down to a place at the next competition, you mean? Yeah, talk through snack time. Yeah, because mid-morning snack is now the lead. Oh, okay.

Well, thank you very much for coming on the podcast, Emily. Please go and have a snack. Thank you, Emily. Thank you so much. Happy week. Thank you so much to the brilliant Emily Campbell for coming on the podcast, James. An honor.

What a great episode. I learned so much there. Yeah, she's so much fun. Yeah, I mean, I literally, you know, just know nothing about that world. So what an education. Yeah, I mean, me neither. Even though I try and do weightlifting sometimes, James. It's pathetic. I've neither mastered the technique nor the strength.

Well, I think all the listeners would love it if you posted videos, because that's what people do when they want to get better something now Yes, they video themselves. They put on their social media to hold themselves accountable So they'll keep doing it. So then loads of people comment below going you got shit form, mate No, no, no, the comments will be knighted. So you got to start doing that. Okay, you got to start filming yourself doing your weights We're putting it on your Instagram. It's not really my Style it's not my style to do that really switch up your style people love it on your Instagram. It's not really my style. It's not my style to do that really. Switch up your style. People love it when people switch up their style.

When the Beatles did it, that was huge. So you see this as like a Beatles shift. It's just like your Sergeant Pepper. Yeah. Is that the phase I'm in at the moment? Pre-Sergeant Pepper. Yeah. You're in your revolver. So you're just moving over. People can see it's coming. And the next step up is me posting weightlifting pictures, videos on Instagram. Yeah. Yeah. And people will be excited. He's this guy now. Yeah. And Emily's got a brand new podcast, James. Contender! Ready! That's what it's called.

It's an unofficial gladiators podcast that Emily is co-hosting with another former guest of the Off Menu podcast, Jess Foster Q. and it is out now wherever you listen to your podcasts. And for the listener, because we've got some, you know, we've got listeners all over the globe. So some of them are thinking, oh wow, they've got a podcast about Gladiator 2, the Paul Mescal film. No. That's great. Everyone's been watching that in the cinema. It's not that. It's a TV show called Gladiators. Yes, that's what it's about. Great TV show and I can't wait to hear the podcast Yeah, but I would also like Jess and Emily to do a podcast about the gladiator film franchise. Yes as well I would like to hear that. I mean that would be good. Yes, Benito sort it out. Make it make it so

Oh Emily as well. Thank you so much for not saying cream of chicken Campbell's soup or whatever Yes, thank you for that Emily. Thank you so much. Yes Cream of chicken Campbell's super whatever. Yes. Thank you for that Emily. Thank you so much. Yes Other Campbell's Benito's let us know that we could have on the football of Seoul Seoul and Naomi Campbell who you know, so I know her. Yeah, we did Jonathan Ross together sat next to me enough about Naomi Campbell Thank you to the brilliant Emily Campbell for coming on the podcast. Yes. Thank you so much and Ed Ed, you want to say anything else before we uh, let the listeners get on with their day? No, no, not really I guess well listen, we don't often say this to you guys, but thanks for listening We appreciate it. We say it every week. I think

I can't keep track of that's your stomach going now. Yeah sound like a little dinosaur. Yeah. Yeah Like a little baby dinosaur. We gotta go eat. We gotta go eat guys. Thanks for listening. Bye. Bye Whether you're in your running era Pilates era era, or yoga era, dive into Peloton workouts that work with you. From meditating at your kid's game to mastering a strength program, they've got everything you need to keep knocking down your goals. No pressure to be who you're not. Just workouts and classes to strengthen who you are.

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