Off Menu with Ed Gamble and James Acaster - Ep 294: Carey Mulligan

Episode Date: May 21, 2025

Three-time Oscar nominee Carey Mulligan – star of Tim Key and Tom Basden’s ‘The Ballad of Wallis Island’ – is this week’s dream guest. But can James name those nominated roles? Carey Mulligan stars in ‘The Ballad of Wallis Island’ which is in cinemas from 30 May. Off Menu is a comedy podcast hosted by Ed Gamble and James Acaster.Produced, recorded and edited by Ben Williams for Plosive.Video production by Megan McCarthy for Plosive.Artwork by Paul Gilbey (photography and design).Follow Off Menu on Twitter and Instagram: @offmenuofficial.And go to our website www.offmenupodcast.co.uk for a list of restaurants recommended on the show.Watch Ed and James's YouTube series 'Just Puddings'. Watch here. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Welcome to the Off Menu Podcast, taking the packet of gnocchi of conversation, opening it up with the knife of friendship, putting the gnocchi into the boiling water of the internet, and waiting for all the boiling water of the internet and waiting for all the interesting topics of conversation to float to the top of the water. Podcast gnocchi. That is it, Gamble, my name is James A. Castle. Together we own a dream restaurant and every single week we invite a guest and ask them a favour, ever start a main course, dessert, side dish and drink.

Not in that order. And this week our guest is... Kerry Mulligan. If there was an Italian, Dennis the Menace, his dog would be called Gnocchi. Kerry Mulligan, an excellent actor, of course. One of the best. One of my absolute faves is folks

that I'm very intimidated this week. You're always intimidated, James. By the actors? No, by me and the great Benito. Yes, you're both very intimidating people. Yes, you are always intimidated by the actors. Not so intimidated that you don't ask them incessant and endless questions about the craft of acting. Well, I'm gonna hold back this week and I'm gonna stick to food and just stick to my job as a podcaster.

Not get, not gonna fanboy out too much. But I think people like you fanboying out and you know, people like to hear about the craft of acting. If you're interviewing an actor, that's a good thing to ask. Myself, I couldn't care less. You couldn't care? No. Everyone does their job. Let's get it done. So you don't care about the jobs you want to know about the food. That's why I'm here. We're a good team.

Yeah. I'm interested in chatting to Keris. She's had a wonderful career and you know, I'm sure she enjoys food and she's got some stuff to talk about and she's in a new film which I very much enjoyed called The Ballad of Wallace Island. As did I, it's out at cinemas 30th of May. It's Carrie, Tim Key, Tom Badsden, also a friend of the podcast Sean Clifford is in it as well. Yes, that's three guests in this film, three previous off-menu guests, if you count Carrie, who's just about to come in.

It'll be exciting, because I don't think we've, you know, we've got to get the full cast list. I don't think we've done that for a film yet. Yeah. And had the full cast list for a film. Yeah. So yeah, and this is a film with not many people in it. Only two other people, so.

Yeah, so we could do it. It's well worth your time. You could go and see it, really funny. It's fantastic. I mean, it's a Basden and Key joint. They've written it. Yeah, and those guys are funny cheeky little boys funny cheeky little boys and they're funny cheeky little boys in this as well Yes, it's about an eccentric lottery winner which played by Tim Key He lives alone on an island who pays his this folk duo that he absolutely loves to come and reunite

And play a gig and play a gig just for him. Yes Even though they split up ages ago, these two. But it's fantastic, it's very funny, it's very heartfelt, quite emotional at times. Very heartfelt, I didn't know Tim Key had a heart. Tim has layers. Now listen, we love Kerry Mulligan. But if she says the secret ingredient,

an ingredient which we deem to be unacceptable, we will be forced to kick her out of the Dream Restaurant. I don't want to do that. I don't want to do that. I don't want to do that. Especially because the boats come very rarely and we'd have to wait ages for a boat, as if you've seen the film. This is the first time James has watched a film in advance of talking to a guest and I'm beginning to see why we don't do it.

I've never felt more alive. Because you're making too many specific references to a film the listener will not have seen yet. And this week the secret ingredient is... Mozzarella Bag Water. This was suggested by an audience member at a live show that we did recently. Congratulations to that person. At the Palladium, mozzarella bag water.

I mean, I can't see Carey Mulligan saying that. No, I mean, they said that they liked it, this audience member. Yeah. You. I said I'd quite like the idea of it. You loved it. Yeah. The idea of shot in pure mozzarella bag I would happily stick a straw in a bag of mozzarella and drink it like a Capri Sun and then open it and have the cheese

Yeah, I have to cheese obviously. Well, the cheese is going in a dish or whatever. Yeah, I prefer hot mozzarella to cold mozzarella Interesting if I was nailed down on it, but you know in the caprese mama mia But I'm not just eating a ball of mozzarella like a hand fruit So if Carrie says what's for the back water change it up very good banter today Well, I don't feel like there's anything to add to that. I think it's funny. Yeah, just do You run and then a little giggle. I'm a comedian and operate off with the reactions I'm always chuckling away at the funny stuff you say. I'm putting out my best stuff about mozzarella hand fruit. Give us a little giggle. Let me feel like

I'm doing my job here. But I don't really laugh very loud ever. So like I'm laughing in my head or I'm smiling. I had a good time. But like, you know, the listener does- Ed can't be very funny. His best friends are not laughing at his jokes. Well, I mean, maybe there's something in that. Yeah. Oh, you're smiling. Now I'm laughing. Put that in for the early one, Benita.

We don't want to kick Carrie out, but we will if we have to. Yes, we will. If she says, I want some mozzarella bag water, maybe it's still a sparkling. Mmm. Mozzarella bag water. Could be straight away. You're out. Straight away. Back to the island.

This is the off menu menu of Kerry Mulligan. Kerry Mulligan. Kerry Mulligan. Kerry Mulligan. Kerry Mulligan. Kerry Mulligan. Kerry Mulligan.

Kerry Mulligan. Kerry Mulligan. Kerry Mulligan. Kerry Mulligan. Welcome Kerry to the dream restaurant. Thanks. Welcome Kerry Mulligan to the dream restaurant, but it's been here for some time.

Incredible. Wow. Wait, say it again? Yeah, good point. Welcome Kerry Mulligan to the dream restaurant, but it's been here for some time. Incredible. Wow. Wait, say it again? Yeah, good point. Welcome Perry Mulligan to the Dream Restaurant, but it's been here for some time. Even less diction that time, I'd say. Yeah, I got the first half.

I got welcome to the Dream Restaurant. Were you ever taught in Tano Annunciate on stage? James, you're still shouting. Why are you still shouting? I got a, you know, slowly come down. So you got to ease back in. You learned to do it, learned to announce it nice stage and stuff? No I didn't. Would you have any tips for me with that diction that I just...

Slow down. Yeah. Slow down. I'd stop by slowing down. Yeah. So the second half you got no idea. No idea. Welcome to the Dream Restaurant.

May you have a lovely time. Well that'd be good. That's good. I should probably start saying that. What did you say? We've been expecting you for some time. Oh shit. Right, of course. And we have.

That's the catchphrase, but I think, may you have a lovely time is actually slightly better. I'll do that for the next guest. Okay. Congrats on this film. Thank you. Wonderful stuff. I mean, you're so good in it. Thanks.

For the listener, the Ballad of Wallace Island is the name of the film. This is why we're a team. James is panicking because normally we have a little sheet in front of us telling us about the film. Oh, I'm not panicking. We've actually. You've seen it, really. For the first time ever.

We've both watched the thing that we're supposed to be promoting. You didn't watch Zero Day. I actually watched Zero Day. Yeah, this suck at it. I watched Zero Day. All the way through. I watched Zero Day all the way through. But we have watched the Ballad of Wallace Island.

Now you've got a piece of paper. And we've got a piece of paper which actually gives less information than I thought it would. What does it say? It just says it's in UK cinemas 30th of May and then it's a little summation of the story really. It's a wonderful film. I genuinely a number of times after you delivered lines said out loud to my girlfriend, she's just so good. Aww.

Such a good actor. It's amazing. That's so nice. You're just like, this is going to be a very basic thing. And I, I, I just say for now. James is very, very impressed by good acting. So a lot of this will be, a lot of the questions will be, how do you pretend to be someone else when you're in a film? Things like that. A lot of actors don't do that very well.

What pretend act? The act, a lot of actors don't disappear into their roles and become that person fully. So you forget they're even acting. A lot of actors can't do that for a number of different characters. I think every film I see you in, I forget that it's you, and I just think that's a new person that I'm watching in the film. And I would like to know how that's done. Because it seems like a magic trick.

That's so nice. That's literally the nicest thing you could possibly say to an actor, obviously. You said that to be nice. But that is really nice. He means it. Yeah. Thanks. But how, you said that to be nice. But that is really nice. He means it. Yeah. Thanks. But how are you doing that?

Like, this one legitimately, I just showed up. In the nicest possible way, I had a 10-week-old baby, and Tim had asked me to do it when I was quite pregnant already. And I loved it. I read it and loved it. But I was very much not sleeping. So I think maybe that's a good thing. Just like, just having to go into it. Just like sleep deprivation and then someone puts a camera on you and you can't really think about stuff

over and you're like, I'm stacked I guess. Well not act, maybe that's it, not acting. Maybe I should try that for my next thing. Sounds like Dustin Hoffman, that's Dustin Hoffman's story. Oh, what Dustin Hoffman, yeah, he didn't sleep, did he? But then wasn't it, that's the famous dry acting darling. Olivier gave him some shit for it. And then people fall in, and Daniel Day-Lewis has come out and backed up Hoffman. And been like, I think Olivier didn't know what he was on about.

Yeah, well, Day-Lewis is doing all sorts of wild stuff, isn't he? He's wild. Yeah. You seen that guy? He was the goat, isn't he? He could wild. Yeah. Seen that guy? He was the goat, isn't he? So... He could play a goat.

Yeah, he could. And you believe it. Yeah. And he'd train us and shoes for weeks and everything. It'd be a very convincing goat. I think Daniel Day-Lewis is playing a goat in a film. He's fucking gnawed my trousers off my body. Look at the credits for The Witch.

It's him. Like Philip. Daniel Day-Lewis is like Philip. And that's exclusive for the witch. Yeah. It's him. Black Phillip. Daniel Day Lewis is Black Phillip and that's exclusive for this podcast. The most exciting moment for me in the film. In our film or in DVL film? Not in Daniel Day Lewis, in The Witch. Your film was when Tim's character has made you all the curry. Chicken shakuti?

Yeah. He says afterwards, chicken shakuti, get this. I introduced him to that curry. I know. You know that? Well I know, because he said that on his episode of this. I can't believe it. I stood up in the cinema and I told everyone.

I told everyone, that's me, I introduced him to that curry. I've influenced the film. There were lots of curry jokes though. Do you want to take credit for those? Well, I guess so, because I guess because they're by association they were your jokes. It all came off of that. I think Tim had had a curry before James introduced him to Chicken Chikuti right? We don't know that. No one could prove it. But yeah that was that felt like a big moment for me as well when I was watching it even just by

association. Yeah and there were lots of crumble gags. There was a crumbly-wumbly moment, but it was cut for, I think for the American audience. Basin slips up in a crumble? He slips in a crumble. But you know what's interesting is that people think it's the rice pudding because she sells them rice pudding in the shop. And so the Americans, all of them think that it's rice pudding. There's a clear shot of it. I know, but they don't know what crumble is.

Oh yeah. They don't have it all the time. So there's so many good crumble gags and they're all gone. There's a crumble blooper reel waiting to come out. You change it to cobbler for the Americans? But then you're no integrity there. There's no integrity there. It's also not the same thing, a crumbleler and a cobbler. No cobbler's got more sort of solid

bits on top, more chunks. Yeah. Whereas the crumble is of course, crumble. Just crumble. It is just crumble. We've got different gaps in our knowledge. Yes. And we fill them. Do you find that with anyone? Have you ever worked with anyone and you found your site? We worked so well together because this person's got what I haven't got, I've got what I haven't got. We're such a good team. So an acting partner maybe. Yeah, they're all good. Oh, fines. Have you seen the dig? Yeah, lovely. Have you? Everyone watched it because it was in Covid, there's nothing left to watch. Huge audience. I watched

two people digging. Yeah, loads of people. Emerald Fennell, who wrote and directed Promising Old Woman of Saltburn. Yeah. But yeah, she's just very good though. I just work with very lovely, good people. Very lucky. Who do you prefer singing with? Bansden or?

Check notes. I haven't even got my notes. You've gone into a question without realising what you're going to say. I forgot Justin Timberlake's name for a second. Check notes. I haven't even got my notes. You've gone into a question without realising what you're going to say. I forgot Justin Timberlake's name for a second. Timberlake, Timberlake. Boston. Yeah, yeah.

Easy. You sing with Oscar Isaac in that film as well? No, I don't sing with Oscar. I'm just mean to him. I thought the three of you... No, it's the soldier. No, Marcus sings with Oscar though. He's not in the film, but he's the...

So in the film, Oscar's partner the, so in the film Oscar's partner is dead and they have a duet and that's Marcus' voice. Yeah. Marcus sings very nice songs. He's all over that. He sings on the old triangle as well. He does. I love that soundtrack. It's a good soundtrack.

Any other knowledge you want to get out there, James? You were pen pals and then you got together. Is that correct? You were at school with him? Yeah, I was at school with him. Yeah, I was at school with him, yeah. His, Basen's dad taught- Basen's dad taught me GCSE biology, yes. And taught Marcus GCSE biology as well. There you go, and I was in a production of Oliver with Marcus.

And Marcus was the awful dodger, and you were? Charlotte, the undertaker's daughter. I had a blonde ringlet wig. And it was clear from that production that he was gonna be a star. Yeah, but then I told him very much to not do any acting. Ed disappeared into that role didn't you? People forgot you were even there. How long did you live as Charlotte the Underdog?

Many many years afterwards as well for some reason. Just carried on. Wouldn't take the wig off. Did he ever tell you who played the roles such as Fagin and... No! Oh the teachers? The teachers took all the adult roles. That's a bit creepy. It's mad isn't it? Yeah. But also the best parts. Yeah the teachers took them. Bill Sykes. Bill Sykes was played by Sally Hassan who's a geography teacher in a former Olympic rower. Couldn't act I'd say. Oh. It's fair enough. Is it? Yeah he was really bad, he was bad in that role. Lovely man, but not an actor.

Not an actor. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Love to see a tape of that somewhere. I've got one knocking around. Have you really? Yeah, yeah, I think it's in my mum's house. I can probably dig it out.

No way. I'll get, Benito will digitalize it, and I'll send it over. You and Marcus round to Ed's for a little screening? Yeah, I love that. Yeah. Not bad. You were foodie.

Do you like food? I do like food. I can't remember any of it. I literally spent the last couple of days being like, I can't remember a single meal I've ever had in my life. We're going to try and narrow it down. We're going to try and at least drag one memory out for you that we can talk about. It's because I have three children and I can't remember anything. So then I started thinking about food.

That's mad. You nearly said you had two children. I know. I forgot one of them. Oh dear. She's very little. Three children? That is nuts I forgot one of them. Oh dear. She's very little. Three children, that is nuts though. You got four cats? Yeah.

You have four cats? Yeah. I think that's objectively weirder. Oh, it's weirder because it's not as normal. Yeah. It's not as normalised, but it's not as nuts. Not as normalised. Absolutely, having one kid is more nuts

than having four cats. Do you think? Yeah, yeah, in terms of like the stress. Do they go outside cats? No, no, they're inside cats. Completely all the time always? Yeah, yeah. They've got a catio.

They've got a little catio. We built them a catio. Did you build them a catio? Well, someone else did. Do you use it as well? Yeah, in the summer I'll go and lie out in there and the cats cannot believe I'm in the catio. They love it.

That's where you go toilet there as well, right? Yeah, I use the litter tray, all sorts of stuff. Yeah, I'm a gentleman. It's all there. Yeah, yeah, but I love it so much. stuff. Yeah, I'm a gentleman. It's all there. Yeah, yeah. But I love it so much, but I could not have even one kid. Really? Yeah, it does not seem fun.

Oh no, so fun. Oh no, no, no. No, you can't trick me. I'm not gonna try. Parents are always tricking us. Yeah. Parents are always tricking the non-parents. So then you have a kid and then they go, we fucking got you.

You're in the club. You know you've got to deal with all this stuff as well. It's like a bite of your life. You're not going to get me. All right. We will start with still a spark in water. You remember that bit. 100% sparkling, but with lemon.

I don't want it plain. And I don't want it with a very thin slice. So I want like a wedge. How big a wedge are we talking? A decent, like I'll take it as big as they come. Yeah. Like I wanna squeeze it. Yeah, this is a dream restaurant.

We can give you just two halves of a whole lemon if you want. Too much. That's not a wedge, is it? A half. No, I want like a little wedge, but I don't want, you know, cause they often will give you what they would put, you know, like a little wedge, but I don't want you know, because they often will give you what they would put, you know

Like a complete slice. Yeah slice. Yeah. No, no slightly. I don't like the slice It's very frustrating the slice because you can't squeeze it. They've been sitting out for hours They don't they've kind of lost their Lemons. They've lost their lemons. Yeah, I think what's the biggest wedge you can have just one short of a half That's the little wedge. Yeah, yeah, it's got to have the triangle. I think it'd be a quarter. A quarter. But I reckon you could keep going with that angle and people would still call that a wedge. Do you know what I mean? I've never seen it. Have you seen it? I feel like I've seen it. You can imagine it. I can imagine it.

Can you imagine it? I can imagine it. Just less than a half. Just less than a half. Yeah. You take a millimeter off a half as a wedge. I'd be happy as a lamb because then also that keeps going. Yeah. You're constantly re-lemoning. Every time you're refilling your glass you can give yourself a little squeeze. Do you make a sound effect when you squeeze it? No. Thank you for imagining it though. No I don't. Do you? Do you? What do you do? I think yeah I probably do a clown horn. Yeah that's classic isn't it? Yeah something like that. Give us a quick example. Yeah, that's classic, isn't it? Yeah, something like that. Give us a quick example.

Ha ha. Yeah. Yeah. I'll try it. That's good. I'd go, ooh. That's more squeezy to be fair. Yeah, I'd really, yeah.

More pervy. Yeah. Or is the clown horn more pervy? Do it again. Ha ha. That sounds a bit like. That's pretty pervy, in the 70s, pervy. Yeah, yeah.

I think we stick with no sound effects. I think you've got the right idea there. I think just a silent squeeze. Son of a deadly. And have you got ice as well? I can take it or leave it. See, this is what Americans have a problem with us for. I do more often than not do the thing where I take a drink and because there's ice, it kind of, you know, it does that.

Cascades down you. That's a nightmare. What if you're doing that in the same what if like they're like, okay your characters I wouldn't never have that in a scene. What an ice would you argue that I say that's not What if it was a really specific part of the character? What if you were like head of a big ice family have some practice? What if there's ice in a drink your drink just pours down your front when you sit from it I don't know why Marcus can't watch me. Can't watch you drink?

Because I will, if I've got like, well if there's too much ice, you know it's fine if there's like two chunks, it's fine, but if there's like five. You're a write-off, yeah, five chunks. And he knows that. He knows and so he'll see it coming. He'll be like, oh babe. Have you thought about employing a bib system? I literally, not for that, but the other day I was wearing like a decently nice shirt that he and I was about to eat like a big salad and he was like, do you want to put on a, so I put on an apron.

At a certain point you just have to know yourself and know that it's time to get the apron on. I think I can do that at home. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, no one's judging your home. I had brunch with a baby today and the baby- Oh, how is that? You don't like children.

No, no, I hated it. But the baby put on a full smock to have its brunch and I was thinking if that was acceptable for me to do that. What do you mean you had brunch with a baby? I had brunch with a baby. Who else was there? Baby's parents? Yeah.

Yeah, yeah. Good. I was meeting up with the parents really, but then the baby's there. So you can't say. Was it necessary? The full smock? Yeah, yeah. That baby was messy, messy baby with everything that was going.

Yeah, yeah. That was definitely needed the smoke, but I would like to also have one. Adults eyes. I was jealous. Yeah, oh, the baby size smoke ain't doing nothing for me. It would be a nightmare. I'm wearing that as a normal bib at that point.

Yeah, that's true. But it's got little arms on it. Well, that's good for tying around the back of the neck if you had a baby smoke. You tie the arms around. There's not many brunch foods I can think of that a baby wouldn't make a mess of. There was shachuka on this table.

Oh, root on Broadway markets. Oh, nice. Nice. Delicious. And they were perfectly fine. My friend bring along their own tea pack for that episode. Own tea bag? Yeah, they brought along a tea bag and they were fine with that.

Why did they bring along their own tea bag? This place doesn't do decaf tea bags. My friend was needing a decaf tea. So they were fine with it. I don't think you should not be okay with that though. I'm laughing because Ben is currently editing this out of the podcast. It's so boring. It's like the most boring thing I've brought up in ages.

I bring up a lot of boring things on this podcast. And I can't think of anything more boring that I've said ever. I bring up a lot of boring things on this podcast. I can't think of anything more boring that I've said ever. I loved it. Yeah, yeah. You loved it. Would you ever take your own tea bags to a restaurant or indeed any sort of take your own thing to a restaurant? I, yeah, I would take, I take like slimline tonic, Schweppes, because I'm, I don't like

many of the other ones. And normally they just have full fat and I don't want full fat because It's very sugary. I feel I completely agree with you rubbish in the morning strap in this is gonna be boring Get ready for the most boring episode ever everyone. I love Schweppes slim line tonic It's the only one you can really find that is genuinely sugar-free Yes, all the others the fancy ones your fever trees. They've got like 10 grams of sugar in them. Yeah. I'm not touching them. So then you're basically having a cocktail. Yeah.

Schweppes. It's got to be Schweppes every time. And it's bubbly. It's bubbly. It's like bubbly. It's bubbly as hell. I love it. It's a sponsored ad.

No, but we have taken that places before, but nothing else because yeah, they just, it's not provided. I recently got a big like palette of the bottles of Schweppes. Oh you do bottles? Yeah, just sort of knocking around and I thought that's that'd be a good thing to have in the house. It's a great thing to have. You know, not really drinking at home and I'll do Schweppes, ice. Yeah. I can hand as much ice as I want without spilling it. And I'll go lime and then some bitters. Lime. Bitters on the top. Yeah, yeah. I got a lemon. I went through a very long seed lip phase. Oh yeah.

Pardon? What's that? Seed lip is like a non-A aperitif thing that you put in. Booth for a gin basically. Yeah. A stands for alcohol. Non-A. Yes.

A stands for alcohol. Is it nice? Does it make a difference? Not to shit talk it, but I stopped noticing the difference. But, but I think it is good. Sure. It's lovely balanced 10,000 times bread nothing is proper Thomas but bread You've got to be careful when you're talking to a genie when you say things like 10,000 times bread because he will bring that to you Because you then you're too full but bread warm bread say things like 10,000 times bread, because he will bring that to you. Oh, I wouldn't mind that. It's gonna be 10,000. No, I wouldn't want to get mental on bread, because then you're too full.

But bread, warm bread with like special kinds of butter is lovely. Or I really do like a big bowl of olive oil with balsamic. And sometimes it's got garlic in it, you know, like mushed up. I don't think I've ever had it with mushed up garlic before. Not mushed up garlic, but like roasted garlic, like mushed up. I don't think I've ever had it with mushed up garlic before. Not mushed up garlic, but like roasted garlic just in there.

I like the sound of that more than mushed up raw garlic. Did I say raw? But that's what I was imagining. Yeah, no, not good. No, no, no, no, very much cooked. I'd like the sound of both, is that bad? No. I like the sound of the mushed up garlic in there.

It's a big play for the start of a meal to have raw garlic, I think. I didn't know if it was raw. I thought maybe it's confit. You proud of yourself? The face you pulled was proud of yourself. It's funny the way I said it. Yeah. Confit.

Yeah. That's what it is. It's comfy. I just say comfy normally. I've been like break up the syllables like that. Yeah. It's something that I find amusing. I used to know somebody who would say basketball instead of basketball.

Yeah. It's funny. I don't play basketball. What know somebody who would say basketball instead of basketball. Yeah. It's funny. I don't play basketball. What sort of bread are we talking? Is there a specific type? Probably something like brown. Brown. Interesting.

Where did you discover that? This is exactly what I was panicking about. Is that you were going to be like, in what specific restaurant did you have that specific bread? And I can't tell you. But we will always ask, but it's fine if there's no answer to that. I don't know, crusty on the edge and soft on the inside.

Yes. I like that it's brown though. We don't get a lot of shout outs for brown bread, to be honest. Really? People normally go like sourdough or like focaccia or something like that. No, focaccia, no. Focaccia is so hit or miss.

I suppose this is a dream restaurant, but focaccia can go the wrong way. I think it has to be really good. I think you can get away with like any old brown bread if you do. It's not really about the bread really. It's about the what you're putting on it, soaking it in things. And you said special butters. What do you have in your mind when you're imagining special butters? They've made it there. It might have like a slight kind of something like truffle or something flavor going on. But you can't quite put your finger on what it is.

No, but they've made it there. Yeah. As long as they made it there, you can put whatever they like in it. Like is there a cow out back in your mind? No, not like that's no, not that intense. You've got to be, that might be Day-Lewis again. Day-Lewis in a costume. It could be. With another actor, I guess, if it's a cow, like a pantomime cow,

be Day-Lewis and Jeremy Strong. Yeah. Dave Lewis in a costume. It could be. With another actor, I guess, if it's a cow, like a pantomime cow, it'd be Dave Lewis and Jeremy Strong. Who's from the other great method. Yeah. Yeah. In there together. Yeah. Who's the head and who's the back in that situation?

I think you've got to assume that Dave Lewis is the head. Yeah. Always. Yeah. Yeah. Jeremy Strong's. He's earned it, to be fair. Yeah, yeah.

Jeremy Strong knows that. Yeah. And he's fine with it. We all know that. He knows his pain is dews. Yeah. And he's fine with it. We all know that. He knows he's paying his dues. Yeah. And he's loving it. He's loving it. If he's the back end, he's the one that's got the udder as well. So when the butter's made, he's got a lot to do there.

Yeah. I've seen there's somebody else for that, no? What, who provides the milk? Oh, no, no. I don't want to do that. Oh, are you suggesting that Strong is providing milk? Yeah, you've got to commit to the role. You don't want this butter, no.

I don't really want it anymore. Why? It's from Jeremy Strong's teats. Ha ha ha ha ha ha. You don't want it? A privilege. Yeah, I'm good. I'm actually, I'm going to go oil a minute ago.

Yeah, fair enough. That's a bit insulting to, if we ever have him on the podcast, we're going to have to tell him. No, I love Jeremy Strong. Have to tell him that you didn't want his butter. No, I just, I don't think he would want mine either. Jeremy Strong would if it was for a roll.

This is true. Yeah. Yeah, this is true. Well, you can ask him. Ed's tummy's rumbling. Someone loves the thought of Jeremy Strong's milk. I haven't had lunch. Also, you said it was for a roll.

Oh, yeah. Bread roll. Oh, yeah. It's not a roll though. Very much brown bread. Yeah. He's a pun merchant. Don't know if you're aware of the work of Ed Gamble.

Yeah. Absolutely. Pun merchant loves it. So we're going warm brown bread. Yeah, yeah, he's a pun merchant. Yeah, don't if you're aware to work a bit gamble. Yeah Merchant loves it So we're going warm brown bread on brown bread crusty on the outside crusty on the outside soft so that you can like pull it out and butter that has been made by real cow by Preferably a real cow in house in house butter I think we can bring you the olive the olive oil and balsamic as well. I love both. Love the option.

And then you dip it around. If that's your dream, then that's what you should have. Your dream starter. Oh God. Okay. So stressed. I am stressed. I had to text my friend Flick and ask her.

So it's... You had to ask Flick what your dream starter was? She makes it. Great. So it's a... We didn't find out more about that. And I thought that it was... I thought it was a her thing, but it's a Delia thing.

So it's halloumi with lime and capers. It's a Delia recipe. I think I've had this Delia recipe. So you make like a big jar of the dressing. You do the halloumi on the barbecue. You get it off the barbecue. You get the dressing on there like immediately and serve it within 90 seconds because then that's the point of halloumi. So it has to be, maybe the barbecue would need to be at the table but it has to be that fast.

I think we can do, this is a dream restaurant, we can have the barbecue in the middle of the table. Yeah, absolutely. Just a searing hot barbecue. Because halloumi is only good for like 90 seconds. Yeah, I agree. I mean, once it gets cold, that's a nightmare. But even like a couple of minutes in, it's not good. It's got to be off the barbecue, dressing on, service. Still a bit melty. Still a bit melty.

And it's got the squeak, sure. Yeah. But if you're leaving it. If you leave it too long, the squeak is outrageous. It's squeak central. Yeah. That's what puts me off it every time, is the squeak. But that's because you're having it too late.

Yeah, you're having it too late. You can't handle the squeak. Yeah, but you've got to have it like fresh it too late. You can't handle the squeak. But you've got to have it like fresh off and then it won't squeak at all. But they have to guarantee me there's no squeak. But this is my dream restaurant. So there will be no squeak. But there might be. You want a bit of squeak don't you?

No. Barely. Well that's halloumi. There's always going to be the hint of a squeak. No but that's what I'm saying is that if it's super, super, super like efficient, no squeak. Great. I wish I lived in that world. Yeah. Anyway, my friend Flick makes it and it's her thing she brings to the world.

Who's Flick? How did you meet Flick? Flick is one of my best mates and her husband Sam is Marcus' best friend. He's a farmer. How'd Marcus make friends with a farmer? I think they met when they were like teenagers. Was he a farmer then? A farmer's son? Marcus was not a farmer. I think they met when they were like teenagers. Was he a farmer then? A farmer's son? Well, because he's not a farmer. He was spending time in farm country. Yeah. Yeah, they're best mates. They go scrumping? What's scrumping? Stealing apples from the

farmers and stuff, from orchards. Did they as children or do they now? As children. No, they didn't. As now, I've seen Mumford and Sons, I'm pretty sure they steal apples from orchards. They've got the look, certainly first album cycle. It was very much scrumping. He kept his artful dodger costume. But like, yeah, were they going around? What, scrumping his children? I think they met too late, they were past the scrumping phase by the time they met.

They were late teenagers. Yeah. How old were you when you did Never Let Me Go? How old are you in that film? 23? Do I put somewhere around there? I got... Nish Kumar, the comedian, gave me that on DVD. Oh! Right, for me, for a birthday or something.

And I mean, we spoke about this encounter, but haven't spoken about this part of it on the podcast before. At Gastonbury a couple of years ago, we were hammered at like one in the morning. And I looked over from like, I was getting some chips from a van and my girlfriend was like, I think Nisha talking to Andrew Garfield over there.

And I was like, fuck it, I'm not talking to Andrew Garfield. You're absolutely wasted. You don't know. And I walked over and it was him. And I know that we've been told by a mutual friend that he was gonna be there. And if you do meet him, just like, you know, and I walked over and it was him. And I know that we'd been told by a mutual friend that he was going to be there. And if you do meet him, just like, you know, he's never been to the festival before. You guys have, just make him feel at home. Don't go on about his films to him.

That's all we did. Oh, that's lovely. At one point, this was going, I got him never let me go on DVD. This guy, I got him never let me. I was like, I watched that film, man, it's a good film. Such a, so emotional. It's a great film. Do you want to tell Kerry how you opened the chat

with Andrew Garfield? Yeah, what did you say? I never met him before. Yeah. I shouted, Garfield, you motherfucker. Perfect. He would have loved that. He did, he said, hey, Castor, you cunt.

Did he? Yeah, it was very nice chat. But then afterwards, Nish then told me afterwards, we were specifically told not to talk about Spider-Man. Did you talk about Spider-Man? So much. Didn't stop talking about Spider-Man to him. Poor guy.

But you balanced it out. With all of his other films. Yeah. Yeah. Is that balance? Or talking more about the other films? What was the ratio of Spider-Man to everything else? Spider-Man like 50% maybe of the chat was us talking about Spider-Man to him.

And then little bits of Never Let Me Go, Silence. Oh, we mentioned the Jonathan Larson film that he did, that Tic Tic Boom. Tic Tic Boom, I was going to say you should have brought up Tic Tic Boom. Yeah, I definitely talked about that. Great. I love it when like actors can sing and stuff. I've seen you sing in two films. Were you able to do that anyway?

I was singing. And then did you have to learn for the film? I was a choir singer, you know, I was that level of singer. So I could sing. I could like hold it. Well, no, but like not as like a, you know, like a school choir. Yeah. I could sing in tune.

Two films I've seen you singing in is folk singing. Yes. As you've done other types of singing in films that I haven't seen. I sang in Shame, Steve McQueen film. Oh, I've seen that. I think I was mainly distracted by a certain person's donk for the whole, but like... Marcus went to the premiere of that with my mother. Ooh. And we'd literally just met.

Marcus had been going out for a couple of months and I was away. I was like, oh go, go. I don't know why. But they went to the sat next to me. You know what happened. You know what was going to happen. No warning. Oh, I did. I think I said it's a bit racy. A bit full-dong. A bit racy. Dad didn't go, to be fair. Well, the aforementioned Nish, he went to see that with his dad.

Yes. And had a whole routine about it in his debut Edinburgh show. Did he? Yeah, that man can bend some serious fasts, I think was the... Yes. ...the load. That's what he said about him. Sorry, you're also very good in that film. Hahaha!

The dream main course. Are we leaving the barbecue on the table or would you like it removed for the main course? I think we should just have it there. It'll be kicking out some serious heat is all I'd say. And are we outside? Are we outside for this meal? No. No.

No. No, I do not like eating outside. Really? I don't. People are always like, oh, let's sit outside. I don't want to. I want to be in the corner. You had to eat in Wallace Island.

You had to eat outside. You're eating a mug of peanut butter. Do you know what? That was actually disgusting. That was because Tim has a peanut allergy or a nut allergy. So I wasn't allowed to have peanut butter. So it was Biscoff. Oh my God.

That's too much. I had to do like 10 takes of Biscoff. Oh yeah. Did it annoy you that you had to make that change based on peanut butter being in the script that he wrote even though he's got a peanut butter allergy? Yeah, knowing that he had a nut allergy. Like a fairly lethal one I think, which is hence the Biscoff. I've asked a lot of actors this but I am fascinated with it. Every single time someone's eating in a film, I'm thinking, right, how much are they eating? How many takes are they doing? When they're just pushing it around the plate, it takes me out of the scene.

I know, I find that so annoying. But then also, if they're eating all the time, I think, fuck it out, they must have. I know, it's distracting either way. I tend to be in the camp of they haven't started eating yet or they're already done, so that I don't have to deal with it. It's also the continuity reset is a nightmare. Yeah. Because every time you eat like a tiny bit of potato,

someone comes in and replaces that tiny bit of potato after that take and then you have to wait for that to happen because they're diligently, brilliantly doing their job. But it is sort of like... But with a mug of peanut butter, it's not like we're seeing it in... Filling it up. We're not seeing it in the mug though, are we?

And no one's wolfing that down. No, I was taking selective bites on my coverage. I was breastfeeding though, so it wasn't, you know, the first couple takes I was kind of like, oh, Biscoff, yummy. And then after a while, not so much. I will eat, now and again, I'll be eating peanut butter with a spoon. I'll definitely take a little, do you know what I like to do is get a teaspoon peanut butter and then dip it in jam.

That's nice. Just have it on a teaspoon, just a bit of peanut butter and jam. That's great. Now and again, I'll do square of chocolate, spoonful of peanut butter straight on top. Date, medjool date, peanut butter inside. It's like Snickers. That's fancy. If you haven't had a Snickers in a long time.

Yeah. If for some reason Snickers aren't available in your area, but medjool dates and peanut butter are. You are set. They started putting those, and I don't don't go I've got a pretty standard gym But they started just putting my jewel dates out for free. That's not standard standard. It's a standard gym It's a very bog standard and they just suddenly started doing it. What's bog standard though? It's just got make the equipment It's not fancy. What is what else do you get for free? Yeah, nothing you don't get well, there's free fruit Fridays

free? Yeah. Nothing. You don't get? Well, there's Free Fruit Fridays. Is the dates included in the Free Fruit Fridays? No, no, no. Do they have towels? Do you have to bring your own towel? Yeah. I had to shower there for a few weeks and because we were having building work done and I had to bring my own towel. Okay. So they don't do towels, but they do do dates? Yeah. That is weird. That's a weird gym, isn't it? They stopped doing the dates now but for a little while there were dates. How long were they doing dates? It was like on like random days for about a month. You never knew when there was going to be dates. Stones in or stones out?

I never picked one up so I don't know if the stones were in or stones were out. I can't resist. I was like, I'm not doing, I'm here. I'm here to work out. I'm not stuffing my face with dates. Good post-workout snack though. I love it. It is very good. Yeah, but I don't know enough about that stuff. So yeah. Don't risk it.

I'm like, I'm not eating, that's the trick. I bet if I eat that, try and come back tomorrow and my membership's been revoked because I didn't pass the test. What's the test in that scenario? You ate food, you're not allowed in here again. Resist. Yeah, yeah. Free Fruit Fridays always take advantage.

There's a bowl of apples, bowl of pears, bowl of bananas. I try and get there early on Free Fruit Fridays, otherwise nothing but pears. Pears get left last. They're the last one. You're not eating that after a work, are you? They're kind of messier to eat, I suppose. Yeah, people are either eating bananas on the way in

or eating apples on the way out. Where are you having a pear? Are you not eating an apple on the way in? Is it, would that be out of the question? Yeah, it's not doing you any good. Right. And bananas go straight to your legs is what my mum says. Yeah correct. Hang on what do you mean correct? Like as in it gives you strength in your legs. Yes. It gives you strength in your legs. I remember my mum always being like have a banana.

Go straight to your legs. Yeah. You've heard this phrase. Just now. Why did you take that in your stride so much? That's one of the weirdest phrases I've ever heard. It goes straight to your legs as in like fortifies you and gives you energy. It goes straight to your legs. I would think of a phrase like if someone said I don't need that, it goes straight to my hips. Which doesn't mean fortified, does it?

That means put weight on. Mum didn't say that. But a banana goes straight to your legs. As in it gives you strength to run up a hill. Because also now I'm imagining someone's legs going bendy like a banana. Oh no. No. You've got the wrong end of the stick there.

I've got completely the wrong end of the stick. Yeah. Go straight to your legs. I think all of it can be true. Yeah. Where does a date go then? Well dates, unfortunately dates are just quite sugary aren't they? Yeah.

Yeah you see. This is a trap they were laying on. I'm not going to fall for that. There's so much conflicting advice on dates. I can't sift through it all. But do you want as a little bonus dish for your dream menu, I can give you the date with the peanut butter in it? I don't want that till the end though.

Let's save it. Put a pin in that, we'll come back to it. Save it, that will come in to play. So what is this main course actually? Have you got lots of options? Because we can help maybe narrow it down, or are we in a scenario where you can't remember any of them? I can't remember anything.

Well, no, I can't remember going to like a restaurant. I can't think of like, oh, I went to this restaurant like Mezcal, went to Tuscany and had Italy, you know, pasta and what not. I can't do that. I can't remember places. What I want to eat the most, which is so pathetic, is like burnt vegetables. Okay, let's pick this apart. I want it to like, like a butternut squash, chopped up, roasted in the oven, feta cheese,

avocado, butter beans, but the bold beans, have you had those? No. Oh my God. I never cared about butter beans before in my life. And these bold beans are like insane. And then pine nuts and then loads of dressing. It's not-

It's very rare that I completely change my opinion on it. It's not indulgent but that's exactly what I want. I'm so sorry. No, no, no, change my, when you said burnt vegetables. Oh, I know, I know, I know. I thought disaster. I know. You described it for delicious.

Delicious, but I'll, you can do it with cauliflower, you can do it broccoli, but that's sort of what I do on rotational roast, like hack something up, get it to almost burnt, like really, really roasted. Chardonnayummy. And then avocado, feta, pine nuts, lots of dressing, delicious.

That does sound absolutely delicious. Bowls of that. That's fantastic. Yeah, yeah. And it is a nice, easy thing to make at home. Yeah. That is very tasty every time. Yeah.

Well on board for that. What are these, these bold beans, type of bean or is it like a... It's a company. It's a company. Yeah. He's going to be eating these like very quickly. They are so good. Are they in like a tin or a jar?

They're in a tin. Wait, they're in a jar. Oh my God. Fuck. No, that was good because you said tin but you acted jar. I know. I need to go to sleep. They're in a...

We have that effect on a lot of guests. Yeah, you were not first. They're in a sleep. They're in a... We have that effect on a lot of guests. Yeah, you're not first. They're in a jar. They're in a little drainage, a little wash them off, but they are so delicious. And you mix those in after you've charred everything up. Benito's now showing us the bold beans on the screen. Why does it say 27? Oh, that's for lots of them though. It's got to be buying in bulk.

Queen butter beans. That's both. Yeah What's that? That's six jobs for 27 27 Queen butter beans. That's so good. Looks like a big jar as well It's a big jar. It's like this big. Yeah. Yeah six for 27. What's that? What's the mass on that? Why you looking at me? I'm not gonna be able to do that. I don't think per bean. What does it work out per bean? Bonita 48 for 12. I feel like you should be direct. Sainsbury's is marking that up. Yeah, you should be bulk buying those bold beans. I really should. They also sell out. Couldn't get them from Sainsbury's. They sent me chickpeas.

Look, I hate to break it to you, Carrie. Now you've mentioned them on this podcast. You're never going to be able to get them again. Unless they will get in contact with you. What, bold beans? Yeah, bold beans will get in contact with you. I want some first. Bold beans will get in contact with you. Okay, thank first. Bold beans we'll get in contact with you.

Okay, thank god. But you better answer the call otherwise this is going to be flying off the shelves. You're not going to be able to get any. I couldn't get them last week. There you go, it's because you didn't come on this podcast. And now your life's about to change. As long as you remember that you were on this podcast because you're saying that you forgets, you can't remember any meals you've ever had.

You've got to remember this. Or what tins or jars are. Yeah. Does it help as an actor to not remember your own life? You're in blank canvas constantly. Yeah, probably, yeah. The more tired I get, probably, maybe I'll get better. You can just completely be the character.

Just full severance all of the time, walking into a new job. Who am I today? I don't know, someone tell me. Who's the character you've played that you most were just like got lost in? She's not gonna remember that. Got lost in?

Got lost in the character you were like, feel like I'm that person now. Oh, I've never had that. Never had it? No, although when I did the Seagull when I was 21, that's probably the most idealistic version of that I've had because I was 21 and playing Nina and I was like very into it.

I loved it. What happens in the seagull? What's that? It's a check off. It's a tragedy. Well, kind of a tragic comedy, I think. Who played the seagull? I would have really convincing fake seagull. Mackenzie Crook played Constantine and Kristen Scott Thomas was in it. And that was very, I was very into that. That's pretty good.

That's a pretty good cast. She was eligible Mackenzie, Kristen, and I was really, really absorbed in that. But that's, yeah. I mean, Maestro, I guess I was very into it. Oh yeah. But I wasn't none of it. All of it is like, you know, take the wig off at the end of the day and crack on. Your dream side dish? Oh, this is so easy.

Roasted Brussels sprouts. Like really roasted Brussels sprouts. What's, why is there, there's an apologetic tone to that when you said it or? No, just that my main course was so roast to vegetable based, but they are my favorite thing. If I see a roast vegetable side, as long as they don't put anything too fancy with it, I just want them really, really roasted

in a nice kind of situation, but I don't want bits of fruit in there. Is that too fancy? Well, I don't really like it when they put bacon in there either. They do that a bit where they put in lardons. Yeah, they do. It's amazing. Well, I don't really like it when they put bacon in there either. They do that a bit where they put in like lardons or... Yeah, they do. Because it's amazing.

No, I don't like that. I love it. What about loads of parmesan cheese on it? Yeah, I'll take that. Yeah, that's good. My suggestion got in. Yeah. It's delicious.

Why parmesan but not bacon? I don't know. I don't like side meat. You know? Only the meat that I elect to have. But you would be electing to have side meat if you were to have side meat, right? But you only want meat on the main. I want no side meat. Not even really then. Yeah, we're meat free so far. We are. Yeah, I'm not a massive meat user really. Meat free Mondays.. Three through Fridays. Let's do one for every day of the week. What's on Tuesday?

Now it's hard, isn't it? Yeah. I guess- Tuna tuna. Huh? Tuna tuna. Tuna Tuesdays. Tuna tuna Tuesdays.

Tuna tuna, oh that's hard. Oh no, that's it. I bet you could do that. Tuna tuna Tuesdays. See, that's first try. Tuna tuna's Tuesday. Oh shit. Well I done it already, that was my first try. Tinnatuna Tuesdays. No shit. Well I've done it already, that was my third try.

Got it on take one, that was just for fun. Doesn't matter now, does it? Well done, that's good. Go on. Take two. Tinnatuna Tuesdays. Yeah, there you go. I'm not doing it again.

Cause like, yeah, I've had the first try. You don't need to, you nailed it, we're fine. Yeah, one take. You ever done just like one take and then there's gone, we don't need no more. Yeah. Wow. That must feel powerful. It does. Yeah.

It's taken me 20 years, but I can do it. Can you tell us what was the one take? Because people love watching stuff. No, what if I don't want to take? I can't remember a specific situation, but it does. Yeah. It does happen sometimes if the forces, oh, what was I, that was one take. I can't remember. Bad story. Can't remember. There's one that I was like pretty pleased with myself. Largely because we were at the end of the day, running out of time.

And it was like, it would be great if this was just one take for everyone involved, you know, so everyone could just go home. And I did it and I was like, that's nice. A director you not work with and an actor you not work with. A director I've not worked with. Who would be like, dream, dream next project. Wednesday, Dale Wednesdays.

Oh, Denis Villeneuve. Yeah. Love him. I had a meeting with him, a general. The generals, are you, when you go into the generals, are you trying, are you working extra hard to try and turn it into a- I'm really, I'm terrified of them because-

Because that's a meet in for the listener that's not about anything specific. No, it's just a meet so that you can just... And I'm bad at it. And it was years ago. It was literally probably like 15 years ago or something. And we met and he and neither of us really knew what to say. And it was unbelievably awkward and I think I fucked it. Oh no. It's difficult to know what to do in those sorts of meetings, isn't it? What are you supposed to be showing them? Well, also, I was just sort of like, I'd love to be in

one of your films. But you know, then it's awkward, isn't it? It's why I like doing this, because this is like a general. No, it's not. But I can completely geek out of them about their whole filmography and everything and it's appropriate. Whereas if I have a general with someone and sit down, I can't go, you were in this, you were good in this, this was cool. And I do all those things. And then down, I can't go, you were in this, you were good in this, this was cool. And I'd do all those things. And then they're like, that person was too much in that general. We can't meet over there person again.

Yeah. But in this situation, I'm allowed to do all that. You just listed things you liked about his film. Yeah. So you're amazing. And a lot of good ones. He was very nice, but yeah. So him, actor, loads of people.

Obviously loads. Daniel Day-Lewis, obviously. Obviously. Oh, I'd love her. You, obviously loads. Daniel Day-Lewis, obviously. Obviously. Oh, I'd love a you, Villeneuve and Day-Lewis. Yeah. Together. Yeah.

That'd be fun. That would be really fun. Day-Lewis isn't taking generals, is he? Oh, he's not taking generals. He's not taking generals. No. He needs specifics at all times. I'd say so.

Yeah, he's like, there's the story about when he did Gangs of New York and DiCaprio had to go for a walk with him around Central Park. Oh, to get the job? To get him to do the film. Oh, to get him to do the film. DiCaprio was already on board and he was sent to go and meet Daniel Day-Lewis and have a walk and he's just like, they walked in silence for ages.

And then Day-Lewis was like, stopped by a bench and said, shall we sit? When they sat down and then yeah, he agreed to do it. Wow. Chicken thigh Thursdays. That doesn't, I don't know, chicken thigh Thursdays might work. Yeah, but it doesn't sound right, does it? Thick thighs. Thick thigh Thursdays. Thick thigh Thursdays.

Yeah, a couple of bananas straight into thick thigh Thursdays. Okay. Fried fish Fridays. It's free fruit Fridays. Free fruit Fridays. We had that going in. Yeah, that's true. Oh, you're trying to change it now?

I've changed it to fried fish Friday. But that's, I mean, fish Fridays. That's classic as well. Fish Fridays very. Yeah, that's true. Oh you trying to change it now? I've changed it to fried fish Friday But that's I mean, that's classic as well. Yeah. Yeah. Sorry. I think back to the fruit. Free fruit. Free fruit You're acting like it's silly sod Saturday Do you think Ed's a silly sod? Little bit. Yeah, just a touch. Little bit. Fair enough. Little silly sausage. That's my job. Yeah. Yeah, literally Isn't that great? Yeah, silly sausage boys. It is great yeah literally isn't that great yeah silly sausage boy it is great isn't it good to be idiots absolute idiots especially on this yeah this is less work than the job we got this from yeah how often do you work on this do you are you counting what's happening now as us working on this yeah this is work yeah this

is your job well we do it as many episodes come out, you know? Yeah. Yeah, I guess average of once, one hour a week. One hour a week. Who's on your wishlist? Streep. Oh, Streep, 100%. Now we've had De Niro.

You're aiming really high. The wishlist knows no bounds. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Mr. Tumble. Streep's actually my top list. Yeah. After Mr. Tumble, obviously, but Streep's my number one. I should have said that first. Mr. Tumble. Streep's actually my top list. Yeah. After Mr. Tumble, obviously, but Streep's my number one. I should have said that first.

Mr. Tumble. Yeah. 100%. Have you had, have you put any offers out to Mr. Tumble? I'm not sure we've gone, we've gone after Tumble, have we? I think Tumble's pretty deep in character. I don't think he's going to come and break character. But would you not do an in-character Tumble?

You have to be in character. I don't want to talk to fucking Justin, whatever his name is. Yeah, but you want to do an fucking Justin, whatever his name is. Yeah, but you want to do an in character one with tumble. Yeah, 100%. You should do an in character one with tumble. I don't know enough about tumble. We don't have kids, man.

We don't. You learn about tumble when we ask about his food. It would be so sweet. You could just do like a mini-sode with Mr. Tumble and children could listen to it. Yes. Finally, one for the kids. It would be so nice. Because kids can't listen to it. Yes, finally, one for the kids. It would be so nice. Because kids can't listen to this,

talking about fucking Michael Fassbender's massive dick and stuff, they can't listen to any of that. Kids can't listen to any of it. But listen to us, talking to Mr. Tumble about his food choices. Yeah, like educational. Yes, so Stroop and Tumble. Stroop and Tumble, who else?

The Rock has always been up there, Yeah. Top of the list. Oh, amazing. Fair enough. Catherine O'Hara is amazing. We. Top of the list. Oh, amazing. Fair enough. Catherine O'Hara is amazing. Have you done a film with Adam Sandler? I've done a film with Adam Sandler.

I love him. I've done a film with Meryl Streep, very briefly. What film was that? She was, um... What film was that? Oh my goodness. She was in Suffragette, very briefly. She played Emily Pankhurst.

So we didn't actually... She made a speech that I watched in that. Pankhurst. So we didn't actually, she made a speech that I watched in that. Pankhurst, the OG. That's right. The first woman. Yeah. And Adam Sandler is the nicest man on the planet. Adam, first man.

Are you kidding? First man, first woman. Adam and Pankhurst. I dare say you've worked with a few snakes This is a whole new side of you james what cheeky the cheeky interviewer feel cheeky today. Yeah. Yeah, very cheeky Your dream drink Coke zero Really wedge of lemon i'd say a controversial choice. I think it's going to kick off in the comments Your dream drink? Coke Zero. Really? Wedge of Lemon. I'd say a controversial choice.

I think it's going to kick off in the comments. There's always a big chat about Coke Zero versus Pepsi Max versus Diet Coke. Pepsi Max, no. No? And Diet Coke, no. Why not Diet Coke? Because Diet Coke doesn't taste like Coke. The point of Coke Zero is it tastes like Coke, but it doesn't have all of the thing, calories

and all that shit. No, I don't necessarily disagree with you. I think Coke Zero obviously tastes more like Coke than, but Diet Coke is its that shit. Look, I don't necessarily disagree with you. I think Coke Zero obviously tastes more like Coke than, but Diet Coke is its own thing. Yeah, I don't like it. Okay, fair enough. I don't drink any of it. Why? Giving up caffeine.

You've given up caffeine? Yeah. James has given up everything. Why? Not everything. Yeah, I have. But yeah, caffeine makes me too anxious. Oh.

Ditched it. Oh. Yeah, I'm still doing cocaine. Like a motherfucker. And I am giving up the caffeine, but I'm having decaf coffees and... You can't enormously tell the difference. Just tastes like coffee. No, because I did decaf a lot over pregnancies and yeah, I can't... It's all about the milk for me really.

You can tell the difference with the feeling, right? Not enormously. I think it's psychosomatic. I think for me, I'm like, I've all about the milk for me really. You can tell the difference with the feeling, right? Not enormously, I think it's psychosomatic. For me, I've had a coffee. Yeah, but really you get the buzz. You still get the buzz from a decaf. I don't know if I get like a buzz from any coffee. Yeah, I was never going after the buzz.

The buzz I was getting was bad. I'm just going for the yumminess. I can get that from decaf. I'm straight buzz. I eat how many coffees do you have? In the morning I'll do, I've got like a pod machine. Yeah. Three pods in a cup. Right up to the top, not diluting it, smashing that down. I'm bouncing around the house at that point. I'm like a fly stuck in the house. Yeah. And then I'll probably have another

two podder and then I'm ready to go. No more, no more coffee for the rest of the day. Unless I come to do off menu and then Benito makes a pot of coffee. Right. But that's always very weak. So it's not a problem. Wow. I get it, I'll just destroy him out of nowhere. Yeah, you make a weak coffee, certainly compared to mine. We have three pods. Yeah, he's got three pods. Off menu, taskmaster, and the Bob and Matthew Cosby.

Yeah, that's true actually, well done. Yeah, there you go, I know what pods you do. You know, Benito started something called Project Podcast for himself He's doing a thing called project podcast where he listens to those are different podcasts His job is a podcast producer and he's now he's doing something that he's called in project podcast for himself where he listens to podcasts What does the podcast about it? No, he's just listening to it It's a thing that he's doing in a spare time. I listen to podcasts

Yes, but like have you set it up as a project? You don't work in podcasts. So if you were to decide that you want to listen to loads of podcasts, it'd be fine for you to call it project podcast, because you're trying to introduce yourself to podcasts. Right, right, right. But if you work in it and your job is to make them, it's a bit disconcerting-

To then have them. Where you work with that person, and they're saying, I'm getting into podcasts. If you came in here and said you started something called Project Film, where you're watching a film every week, we'd think that was pretty weird. I watch a film every six months. Yeah. Oh, really?

I had a watching film. What's the last film you watched that you weren't in? Wow. Leave all this pause in because the listeners can know. I'm just trying to think. Oh, Wicked. I went to my children to see Wicked. No, I didn't actually. That's such a lie.

I went to Wicked on my own and Marcus took the kids to see Wicked because I wanted to experience it without my children. Yeah, fair enough. Yeah, that's fair enough. So I don't want to be sitting there thinking like, is this scary or is this boring to them? So I went on with my friends. I then took them separately to see it to be fair. But when I, I wanted the first time because I was very excited and I loved

it. So the drink is a Coke Zero. I know. And you've got the wedge of lemon in there. Yeah. Do you ever, if you've got a can of drink and no glass, but there's lemon wedges available, do you try and get it in the can? I have. Yeah. but not in a restaurant.

Not in a restaurant? I don't think so. But no. There's normally a glass at a restaurant, isn't there? No one's just bringing it in a can. I love getting it in the can. Getting in the can. Like getting it through the hole in the can. Like you do when you're putting it in a beer or like when you put a lime into whatever.

Yeah. Yeah. I don't know if this is... Because if it gets messy, it's even better. But also the size of the wedge we're talking about. It's never going in a can. It's never going in there. This is true. Not the wedges that you like.

Holy Christmas. Yeah, you're not getting those in the can. Unless it's a massive can. But you want a standard size can. I would like a standard size can. Massive wedge. I don't really want the can on the table. Is that OK?

You don't want to see the can? I don't think so. I've heard this about you. It's gone. It's gone. I want someone to just come and top it up. She's very agreeable. We hope that if she sees a can, she's going to leave.

And I see none here, so we're fine. No, we had to scold Benito beforehand. Your people around him. We arrived at your dream dessert. Very exciting. Can you remember what it is? I've had a good think. I think it's somewhere in like kind of school dinner pudding area. Okay. So let's imagine we're going into the school dinners. Okay. What's laid out there?

What do you, what are you saying? It's something that I pour custard on. Okay. So we've got the custard that's okay. And it's maybe got treacle in it. So like a treacle sponge? Yeah, like a sponge. Is it a treacle sponge? Yeah. But you know, when they make them in the big, huge trays, huge tin, and you just hope that you're going to get like the good wedge and not the corner wedge or an edge wedge. Whoa, whoa. What do you mean not the corner? That's a big play. Some people I think would like the corner. Clearly, Ms. Braycaster. Well, the treacle will gather in the corner. Thank you. I will give you that. But you're not going to get the biggest wedge.

I don't. From the corner because it'll dip down towards the edge of the baking tray. Well, because there's that little bit there. Yeah, the bit at the edge. So you're going to get more treacle, but you're going to get the biggest wedge. It'll dip down towards the edge of the baking tray. Because there's that little bit. Yeah, the bit at the edge. So you're going to get more treacle, but you're going to get a less substantial wedge. We know that you like a substantial wedge. This is very much the theme of the whole menu. It's across the board with my menu. But yeah, so I'd go for that. I'd get like a school dinners treacle sponge with hot custard. If we would say this is the dream restaurant, so you can have as big a wedge as you like,

but it could be the corner wedge. How are you feeling about that? I feel good about that. Yeah. Yeah. You could go for a massive corner wedge. Yeah, because I do want the extra treacle gathered like pools in the corner. I wasn't supposed to have school lunches because I had packed lunches.

Okay. But I used to sneak into school lunch. Just for all of it or for just pudding? No, for all of it. For all of it? Big fat boy. Used to eat my pat lunch at morning break. Oh.

But you were very sporty, weren't you? Not me, no. Not you? No. School was really... Generally, yeah. It was a sporty school? Yeah.

Okay. I was going to say, lots of running around. No, I was in the B team or C team for everything. Oh, me too, actually. I was in the C team for everything. And I only got on the rugby B team because big fat boy. They need that. They need that.

They need the spulk. I was a wall. I was just a wall of man. Stand still. Yeah. Pardon you, man. Thank you. You got the hot custard on there. We had Jamie Tartt on this podcast once and he calls hot custard hot cucky.

How do you feel about that? Oh, good. I've only got to... There's a link to you and Jamie Tartt. So it's fine. Is there? Yeah. James, firstly, let's see if you remember the name of the actor.

Jamie Tartt? Yes. There is a link, but. Phil Dunster. Phil Dunster. Oh yeah. From Ted Lasso. And Marcus did the music for Ted Lasso.

Hey, it's us here, custom and gay. Skip intro. Well, skip intro is straight, I'll zoom in again. Skip intro. Skip intro, straight away. Do you press the skip intro? Yeah. I think, yeah. What do you think of hot cuckoo as a term that him and his entire family use?

No, no offense to the family, though. I think offense, full offense to the family. I think in that sense. But how did it become hot cuckoo? I don't know. How does it start calling it that, apparently? He just, he thought it was like a normal thing. Yeah.

But you get those things in your family, don't you? Yeah. Where people start calling things weird things. Not hot khaki though. Do you have anything from your family that you call weird things? Well, just because of the children, sausages became oo-sus. Oo-sus? Yeah.

Why? Just because one of them couldn't say it. Yeah. You know, it's where all nicknames come from. Yeah. They can't say it, so they make up their own thing. Maybe that's where khaki came from. I can't it. Yeah. You know, it's where all nicknames come from. They can't say it. So they make up their own thing. Maybe that's where Kucky came from. I can't remember. Yeah. But like every family. Yeah. Sounds like a child was like Kucky. Yeah. Yeah. Every family's got something like

that. Yeah. Well, like a kid can't talk and like, yeah, you can't say that word. Huh? Not me. You don't have one where someone like a parent's name could like a grab. Perfect diction. Okay. Perfect diction when I was a kid. I did. That's why you have a podcast. That's true, but really bad bowel control. I've told you this. What?

My mom said I'd like speech like way ahead of my time, but bad toilet habits. So I could stand at the bottom of the garden and say, mother, I appear to have done a poo in my pants. Still the case now. Still the case now. You can articulate that. Yeah. Sorry about that.

Yeah. Low brow. Don't want to bring the case now. Still the case now. You can articulate that. Yeah. Sorry about that. Yeah, lowbrow The podcast and well, then we do start off in my poor diction and we've ended the podcast on it's very poor Diction perfect. Perfect addition to be fair. Yeah, that's good. I'm fast banded distinction. I'd bet that as well poor Michael Yes, poor Mike. We can't do poor Michael for having a big wanger. Can we you're out the conversation? And that's fine. I haven't weighed it, I'm out of the conversation. Poor Carrie, if I haven't even commented on this. I haven't weighed in at all on any of it. Yeah, yeah, no, no, there's no quotes available for this.

I imagine you had this enough on the Shane Press Tour. No, I didn't do any press for Shane. Congrats. Because I was filming The Great Gatsby and I couldn't, I was in Sydney, so I did nothing. That's good. Baz Luhrmann. Baz Luhrmann.

Wear sunscreen. He does. I should hope so. If he didn't, I'd be like, you are a hypocrite. Yeah, I'm completely a hypocrite. I go up to him and say, you are a hypocrite. Yeah. You shouldn't have given all the people that advice in 1999.

You should be ashamed of yourself, Baz Luhrmann. You should get him in here and tell him. Happily, I'd school him on it. I'd be like, right, these are all the things you told me when I was 14. How many of them have you done? That I should do. How many have you actually done in here? Yeah. Although it wasn't him on the song. It wasn't him.

Yeah. Someone else. But he wrote the words. How many of you actually done it? Yeah. Although it wasn't him. It wasn't him. Yeah. Someone else. But he wrote the words. I think it was someone else who gave a university, like an address that a university did a speech and then he took that and put it to someone's music. Yeah. And there's music isn't him either.

It's a rapper. What did he do? Produced it. So you've, I was telling my Leonardo DiCaprio story earlier, which didn't even happen to me. You must have been sitting there going. What Leonardo DiCaprio story, yeah, which didn't even happen to me. You must have been sitting there going. What Leonardo DiCaprio? Oh, the Central Park thing. Daniel Day-Lewis went, I'm doing that.

You're sitting there. I bet you had loads of DiCaprio stories up your sleeve. My DiCaprio stories, yeah, they're all great. He's the best. I mean, no, no, like juicy, no, nothing juicy. He's just like a really, really professional good actor. We're never looking for juicy stuff. I am.

We're never digging for the juice, are we? No, no, no. I We're never looking for juicy stuff. I am. We're never digging for the juice, are we? No, no, no. I wasn't implying that you were. I was trying to think of like, oh, that was good. And then I was like, oh, well, a nice thing is that we did a very dramatic scene, and there was lots of crying and sort of shouting

towards the end of the film. And we did his coverage first first for whatever reason, for light or whatever. And then we turned around on me and he was like almost better when the camera was on me. And I thought that was really solid from Leonardo DiCaprio because he could have kind of, you know, some people sort of phone it in when the camera's on. Some people go home. People have been known to go home. People have been known to act with tennis balls. But he was like trying so hard, he was like practically better on my side, which I thought was really generous and solid. And he was like that the whole time. But particularly

with that scene, I remember thinking like, Oh my goodness, Leonardo DiCaprio. Any other books you'd like to star in the film of? Can I talk about a book? Yeah. Yeah. Only because my brother wrote one. Okay. Tim came to the book launch last night. My brother wrote a book called The Accidental Soldier. It's coming out tomorrow. That might not be tomorrow when this comes out, but it's coming out on April 10th. It definitely won't be tomorrow when this comes out. It's coming out.

It'll be out. This guy's not turning it out. He's got project podcasts on the go. He's not editing this again. He's writing a podcast. My brother's written about it, but the only reason, not the only reason, I'm very proud of him, but he's giving all of the money to War Child, which is a charity that I've been an ambassador for for 10 years. It's amazing. Looks at children in conflict zones. And it's

very, very funny. It was about him going to Iraq when he was about 23. What's your brother's name? Owen Mulligan. Owen Mulligan. The accidental soldier. So treacle pudding. Treacle pudding. Hot custard.

Hot custard. Hot cookie. Oh, and my peanut butter date. That's when this is now. At the end. It comes right at the end. With the bill. Yeah.

Do you want like a hot drink with that as well? Like a coffee? I'd always like a peppermint tea with honey. Fresh mint tea with honey. Because then you can just sit and chat for ages and just work your way through Massive Pop. I did that last night. Did you?

Yeah. Who with? My brother's book launch was last night. And then afterwards I went for dinner with all of my friends who I had wrangled to come to the book launch. Flick? Flick it in your mind? Flick's not there, Flick's on holiday with Marcus and Sam and the gang.

No, it was my two best friends from school, my sister-in-law and my friend who works for Wartell. Oh, one thing I got asked before, what's the island that you're on in the film, in Wallace Island? Not an island, a fake island. Oh, busted, sorry. Movie magic.

Contact the tabloids, Benito. The island that they shoot from the drone shot, there is an island, we're not filming on that, but that I think is, oh my gosh, it's like just off the coast of Tembe, but the rest of it is constructed to feel like an island. Very clever. Thought me.

I thought it was an island. Isn't it so pretty? So pretty. But I saw the sea and I was like, I bet that goes all the way around. No, yeah. Turns out no. Movie magic. Yeah.

Doesn't. It was doing a great job acting. I got completely lost in it. I thought it was an island. I forgot that it wasn't an island. Nomination for the sea. The Oscars. If you guys do your job correctly. Yeah, it's up to us to get the nomination. The forgot that it wasn't an island. Yeah. Nomination for the C. Yeah. The Oscars. Yeah. If you guys do your job correctly. Yeah, it's up to us to get the nomination.

Yeah, it's up to you. You are starting the awards campaign early. We've done well. We've had a few people come on this podcast and then get nominated for Oscars. Ooh. Yeah, we have actually. Mezcal, we helped him out. With what? With After Sun. Oh, you did help him out.

Yeah, yeah. That was a very small film. That was us. We did that. Well done. We... There's someone else recently on the, Sebastian Stan helped him out with the apprenticeship. He's amazing in that film. Yeah. Because the, well done. Yeah. He's opposite. And he had to act opposite half a cow. This is truly, fucking back end of a cow for the whole film. He was, it's an uphill battle. You've been nominated before I have right i'll figure this out This is one of bonita's least favorite things is james doing guessing games for figuring out what i've been nominated

So late in the day for me to do a guessing game as well. So he's going to really hate it Yeah, I think it's such a good first time. No i've been nominated for three times I think such a big swing to us to ask. You've been nominated for an Oscar? Yeah. Because you don't know how they feel about it or... I think we've been chatting long enough now that I don't think Harry cares either way. Yeah. But like, I think it's obviously nice, but if you hadn't been, you wouldn't be like, I don't bring that up. No, yeah, yeah, no, I could...

My strove. So I got that one straight away so you can suck it. I didn't think you wouldn't get it. Suck it! I thought you'd know this anyway. I'm surprised you asked the question. The other ones. Now I should be able to get these. I should be able to get them. Doctor Who. Should have been. Right? Yeah. He was saying earlier, best episode Doctor Who. Thank you. It is. No competition. It's incredible. Weeping Angels. Have you seen it? No, I don't watch Doctor Who, even though it seems like I should. Was that a long time ago? Yeah, yeah. I won't do all the films because Benito's gonna want to wrap up.

It's a lie, because I think I could definitely... I think if I thought about it, I'd get it. I'm gonna read your menu back to you now, see how you feel about it. You would like... If other people want to guess, by the way, they should tweet the great Benito, and if you get all of the films right, you win a signed chopping board. Yes, and you're allowed to check on IMDB if you want and things like that. But just tweet Benito the three films that Cary's been nominated for, for Oscars.

And then he will send you a signed chopping board. Hashtag Hey great Benito. These are the Oscaritos. These are the Oscaritos. It's very important. Sparkling water with a wedge of lemon. Popcorns of bread. Warm brown bread with special butters and olive oil and balsamic and roasted garlic, starter flick slash delias halloumi with lime and capers, main course burnt vegetables, side dish roasted brussels sprouts, drink coke zero with a wedge of lemon,

dessert big, no not corner wedge. Yeah, big corner wedge. If it can be big enough. Big corner wedge. Big corner wedge. You've got to listen to the answers man. That's a basic interview. I'm just too busy thinking about filmographies and stuff. Yeah, yeah. You're still worrying about the other nominations. Really in my

head. How the fuck am I not getting these? I'm going to continue this afterwards. I'm not going to be very chatty after this episode because I'm going to be thinking about the other nominations. Big corner wedge of school dinner, treacle sponge with hot custard, and a peanut butter date to follow with fresh mint tea with honey. Beautiful. That's it. The bit I'm most excited about, I think, is the petty four. The petty four, the date and peanut butter?

Yeah. So if your gym had put out dates with peanut butter, would you have part of took? Yeah, they would have got me. There you go. They would have got me there. Now they'll know. Gee, I'm suspicious of this date thing. Go on. Just leaving out uncovered dates in the gym as well, I'm have got me. There you go. They would have got me there. Now they'll know. I'm suspicious of this date thing. Go on.

Just leaving out uncovered dates in the gym as well. I'm not touching those. No. All the sweaty lads. Sweaty. Yeah. Well, I've never seen only a few of the dates. There was a lot.

So I think people, most people are thinking the same thing. Yeah. But Free Fruit Fridays, those bowls are going down. Individually. Yeah. People are going after those. Bananas are the safest bet there. Yeah, people are going after those. Bananas are the safest bet there.

Yeah, bananas, safest bet. I think they're the first to go. I usually go around the time of day where there's just apples and pears left. Yeah. That's a good way to get fit, go up and down those. Yeah, apples and pears. And...

The apples and pears master. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Pointing at me when you think you've got a good joke. Oh, why did I? Um, and then Pairs at the end of the day, no, but I've had a pair after a workout once, it felt weird. Thank you very much for coming to the Dream Restaurant, Kerry. Thank you, Kerry. Thanks, guys. There we are, James. lovely menu, lovely chat. Yeah, afterwards Kerry helped me get them. Yeah, you couldn't guess the other two that should be nominated for.

And Education, which is an early film. I've got to say, I'm really surprised you didn't know that. I didn't know Promising Young Woman. Because you love knowing stuff about the Oscars. I love knowing stuff about the Oscars. I was so excited that it was like, okay, got an actual Oscar nominee here saying, free films, you love nominations. Love nominations, can't get enough of them.

You always do, innit? Yeah, I only like the nominations. Allergic to the win, Kerry told me the films, and she also did not say mozzarella bag water. No, even during the podcast or after, she didn't mention mozzarella bag water. No point, so that was good. Thank you, Kerry Thank you so much for coming on. I was watched the ballad of Wallace Island. Yes, which is out 30th of May. Yes

Oh, and I need to remember to get the video of Oliver and bring it in next time Benito And you can digitalize it so we can send it to Kerry Mulligan and then you could be an Oscar nominee Yeah, it's very very good. Genuinely do go and see it Yes, if you're a fan of any of those people involved you should go and see it Yeah, quite a few laugh out loud moments. I'd say and cry out quiet moments Emotional stuff. Yeah Quite quiet. Hey, if you live in Australia, I'm touring in June go to edgambel.co.uk If you live in for example, Melbourne, Sydney, Perth, Brisbane, or if you live in New Zealand, hey, if you live in Christchurch or Auckland or Wellington, those are actually the first ones I'm doing, starting in New Zealand.

Come see me in June, edgamber.co.uk. Well, what a lovely afternoon we've had, Ed. Nice afternoon. I've got a bit of a headache, I'll be honest with you. Oh dear. Yeah. Yeah, Bernadette's got to have some painkillers knocking around the office. I've only recently been ill. Have you you yeah, and I've hurt my foot How'd you hurt your foot box jumps? Well? There you go. I've really hurt my toe really so now can't work out

I can't work it out at the time the main issue was machines because I smashed machines into the side of the box So I showed them to you later But the issue now is the toe and I think I really sprained it when I was having lunch yesterday But the issue now is the toe and I think I really sprained it when I was having lunch yesterday You eat with your feet? What are you doing? No, I sort of flexing it because it felt like it was getting better and then I think I resprayed it You flexed it so hard that you resprayed it. I was a bit pissed at that point as well So I think I just sprained it too hard. I see having lunch The Devonshire at the Devonshire. Yeah with your friends with my dad my uncle and my brother

That's when it gets rowdy. The boys? Yeah, yeah. That's a rowdy lunch. You're spraying in your toe there. Hear me out here. At the end we went for drinks after we met my stepmom and went for more drinks and I thought it'd be sensible to not have loads more wine. So I just had whiskeys instead.

Okay. How did that go? I feel I've got a headache now. Yes. Yeah. So now you feel quite bad. It was delicious and I do I do whiskey one of the only things that I will drink slowly Yeah, but I still had like four and then he's like straight whiskies. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, Bourbons Woodford Reserve, but lovely evening Really nice. It was daytime. Yeah, it was data. It was lunch. I was home by 730 smashed

Yeah, yeah, I mean getting into my bourbon. I used to be into my bourbon but I'm back into my bourbon now and I started watching a new YouTuber and I'm sure it'll come up on a podcast in the future. Oh, that's exciting. A little teaser for the listener. I started watching a podcast called Hawk vs Wolf on YouTube and I recommended it to Benito because he's doing Project Podcast and he did not get on with it and thought I was pranking him. And in a way I was because I knew it was so at my street.

I love hearing skaters talk about skating, but I knew Benito would have no interest in it. But I knew from you telling me what it was that Benito wouldn't like it. Yeah. You said I'm listening to Hork versus Wolf, which is two skaters talking to each other about skating. At what point did Benito think, I'll put that next on the list for Project Podcast? Well, he's so committed to Project Podcast that he's just glad to hear another podcast going, right, great, I can add that to the list and do another one. So he's just blind to the fact that he's not going to enjoy it. Whereas I'm like, I know what I'm setting him

up for and his commitment to Project Podcast, it means he's going to listen to this. Well, thank you very much to Kerry. That about does it. Oh, okay. Well, thank you very much to Kerry for coming into the Dream Restaurant. We'll see you again sometime soon. Bye bye. Goodbye. Hello there off-menu listeners. It's me Amy Gledhill and you might remember me from my episode of off-menu when I chose to have seaweed on mash and I'll be taking no further questions. And my name is Ian Smith and you may remember me from the one line of dialogue I had in a non-broadcast Channel 4 pilot. Maybe you were in the studio audience at the time. Who can forget?

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