Off Menu with Ed Gamble and James Acaster - Ep 6: Joel Dommett

Episode Date: January 9, 2019

Handsome boy Joel Dommett – off of Netflix and ‘I’m a Celeb…’ – orders his dream meal this week. Or does he? Ed and James aren’t too happy about his choices…Recorded and edited by Ben Williams for Plosive Productions.Artwork by Paul Gilbey (photography) and Amy Browne (illustrations)Watch Joel’s stand-up special on Netflix in ‘Comedians of the World’ and follow him on Twitter @JoelDommett.Ed Gamble is on tour in 2019. See his website for full details.James Acaster is on tour in 2019. See his website for full details.Watch Ed and James's YouTube series 'Just Puddings'. Watch here. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Hello, listeners of the Off Menu podcast. It is Ed Gamble here from the Off Menu podcast. I have a very exciting announcement. I have written my first ever book. I am absolutely over the moon to announce this. I'm very, very proud of it. Of course, what else could I write a book about? But food. My book is all about food. My life in food. How greedy I am. What a greedy little boy I was. What a greedy adult I am. I think it's very funny. I'm very proud of it. The book is called Glutton, the multi-course life of a very greedy boy. And it's coming out this October, but it is available to pre-order now, wherever you pre-order books from. And if you like my signature, I've done some signed copies,

which are exclusively available from Waterstones. But go and pre-order your copy of Glutton, the multi-course life of a very greedy boy now. Please? Welcome to the Off Menu podcast, the podcast that sounds so tasty, you could eat it. Do we like that? Yeah, that's very good. Still trying to come up with the catchphrases of the podcast. We did work for Amazon that one. Yeah, that was good. Yeah. Well, I'm Ed Gamble. I'm James A. Caster. Yes. And I think we should explain what the podcast is at the top for any new listeners who might be joining us. Good idea. We speak to a different guest every week and get them to build their dream meal in our dream restaurant. Best starter they've

ever had. Best main, best side, best dessert, best drink. That's the basics of it, isn't it? Yep. We also be asking them what kind of water they want at the beginning. And if they want, poppies or bread. Poppies or bread, we're just warning you, is noticeably louder than the rest of the podcast. Very important. Take you by surprise. You've got to shake them at the start. Our guest this week is a star of skins Joel Domet. Yes. He's no stranger to food. I just think you could possibly say that about all our guests, James. Yep. That's true. But you know, I've seen Joel eat before. I can vouch for him. Yeah, he does. I vouch for everybody on this. But Joel likes food. He's also saying he's no saying people are

no strangers to food suggests that food sees Joel and goes, All right, Joel. Yeah. Hello, Joel. How are you? Yeah. Most people that Joel's a friendly person. Yeah. Anybody who sees Joel. I think I believe that food would do that. Yeah. Me too. Joel. And they say, Hello, food. Yeah. Yeah. I thought this was literally brilliant. And then you eat the food. And then you eat all the food. Yeah. Especially if it was potato skins, because he's a star of skins. I tell you what, you better not be eating though. Goji berries. Yes. Also to let you know, we have a secret ingredient every week that me and James established now in the intro. And if if Joel mentions goji berries, he will be removed

from the podcast. Bad luck, Joel. Bad luck, Joel. You better not bring up goji berries, you punk. So we're going to chat to Joel, Domit. He's a lovely man. I'm sure it's going to be a great chat. Let's do it. Bon appetit. Bon appetit. Oh, it's Joel Domit. Hello, Joel. I like that. I'm starting it like you've just, you've just walked in. Like I just appeared in a poof of smoke. Well, no, you're walking in a poof of smoke. I come in in a poof of smoke. I'm a genie. Yeah, that's true. Okay. I love the way Joel's immediately bought into it. Yeah. Yeah. I wasn't aware you were a genie. James is the way to end a genie in the restaurant.

Oh, okay. Yes. You're the only one who's accepted it straight away. I just, I'm glad. You've just got, you've got a way about you where I feel like you know more than me in a situation. So you say, Joel, this is happening. Like, oh, yeah, yeah. Okay. Yeah, yeah. You've got like a command. And that's got you into many sticky situations before following my lead, assuming that. It's true. It's true. I just, um... But I think you can still walk in in a poof of smoke. Especially if the genie's just appeared, you're sort of walking, you can walk through his poof. Yeah, I'd love it. Just walk hand in hand in your poof if that's okay.

Yeah. Stars, stars in your eyes it through my poof. Yeah. Can I sidecar in your poof? Yeah. Is that all right? Sidecar in my poof. That's the name of my new hip hop single. Sidecar in my poof. Well, welcome, welcome to the restaurant. If you just emerge from the poof and pop yourself down, that would be great. I feel, I feel very much at ease. Oh, good. I'm glad to hear that. Which I think most people say when they don't feel at ease that I do.

Yeah, yeah, sure. Yeah. A lot of people, you know, trust them when they say stuff like that. Yeah. It's not when they go, I'm just a really relaxed person. Just really relaxed. You're really great right now. No one's ever said, I tell you, I feel really at ease right now. So chilled.

It's like no one's ever relaxed by putting both their hands behind their head. It's true. You know how people in films relax on one day, where they recline with the other. Finally, I can relax. That's how I thought as a teenager, how everyone had sex. What had sex? Do you not, did you not think that as well? No, because I would imagine all adults had put their hands behind their heads

and then they thrust their hips. Like that's how. If you're sort of vaguely aware of Joel's work, or you've not seen much of him, what you do need to know is that he's the weirdest man in the world. Yes. Okay. Looks can be deceiving. Yeah. He's a very weird fellow.

So how would that even work, Joel? Because like that's the thing, because I've tried it so many times. You've tried it. You've tried when you've been having sex, you've put your hands behind your head. Is that how you lost your virginity by doing that because you assume people had sex? That's you assume people do it that way. No, no, no, that's not what I said. You can't, don't tar me with this, bro.

When Ed said you assume people do it that way, he meant you specifically. Yeah, I didn't mean everyone. And you turn that into the general, like all of us. Yeah, oh yeah, you know how you do this. Oh yeah, I told him to do it. No. Because you put your hands there. And then, because that's, I don't know where I got it from.

I think maybe I got it from Andy Morrissey. Who's that? He was like the kid that could have had sex first in school. Right. And he nicely had it like that. He's lying. But that's what I think. I think he's that kid who was like, oh yeah, I had sex last night.

And he was just like, yeah. Oh, and then he mined it like that. And then I was like, oh, that's how people do it. Yeah. I'd imagine there's people who think you have to have sex by like slapping the butt at the same time as well. Because that's a classic mine, isn't it? They just all get all of their sexual information from like American comedy. Yeah.

And like, they're like, oh right, so it's a person instead of a stool. Okay. That's like a dance move where people have their hands behind their head and thrust their hips. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's not a real sex thing. So you thought the Macarena was an instructional video?

Yes. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I'm like, so at what point do you turn around? Do you like change ladies when you turn around? Or is it the same lady? Sorry, Joel, did you just say, eh?

Yeah. There you go. Did you? Sorry, but you have actually tried it. I've tried it, yeah. When was the last time you tried it? Actually, not that long ago. Just, I mean, me and my fiance are in that place of our relationship where we can find sex funny.

And you kind of, you know, when you just kind of, you just, you try and spice it up by just... Put your hands behind your head. Put your hands behind your head and you think, oh, this is a bit hilarious. It's hard to do it hands-free. I found that out. Well, yeah. Yeah, that's why people don't, that's why it's not as technique anyone does. If I could just move us away from this.

Very smarty. I'm so sorry. Mucky page. Straight into the gutter with Joel. This is a food podcast, not a sex podcast. Right. Welcome to the restaurant. Thank you so much.

First of all, can I get you some water, Joel? Would you like... Oh. No, I'm going to ask you if you want still tap or sparkling and... I mean, we've already been speaking about sparkling water and still water when you got here because you've arrived with a sparkling bottle of water that you've put whey protein in. Yeah, it's, it was sort of a concoction that I... I wouldn't do it again, really.

It's because the problem is you put the whey protein in and you need to shake it up and sparkling water doesn't like that. No, no. Well, it does. It likes it too much, I'd say. I think the sparkling water is waiting for that. Playing into his hands. Yeah, he's shaking me.

I like to do it with my hands by my head at all times. And it's, so yeah, so it was kind of left for a while and I had lots of whey protein in it and it wasn't able to be shook. And, but now it's drinkable. It's absolutely drinkable. And you know what? It's absolutely addition. I love sparkling water.

I really like it. It makes me feel fancy. Okay, that's good. Do you want me to get you some sparkling water? Oh, I'd love some sparkling water. Yes, please. Would you like some whey protein in it? No.

Can I have it clean, please? Pure. Yeah, clean, sparkling water is what you would like. Yes, I'd love that, please. It's always a hard decision, isn't it? Because you, I always want to say sparkling. I prefer sparkling water to still, but we all want tap. I think most people go tap, don't they?

You know, in America, they just give you tap water at every meal. They just hand it to you. Right. And which they're obviously, the sparkling water market is missing out there. But I just, that's what I love sparkling. And then when you're on a date situation, you're in a sticky situation when you're like, I really want tap, but I don't want to seem like I'm a tap guy.

Oh, I wouldn't worry about that. Is that, would you worry about that? I'd worry about that stuff. You'd worry about sparkling to show off. Yeah, I think I'd probably, what I'd do, and this is wrong, I'd bring my own sparkling. What? And then they'd be like,

oh, you bought your own sparkling. I'm like, yeah. So that you think that makes you seem less cheap than asking for tap water? Genuinely, I went on a couple of dates, and I was at the point in my life where I was doing meal prep, and I just brought along like a little lunch box. And I think looking back, it's one of the most unattractive things

I've ever done in my life. So this is why you're an interesting choice for this podcast, Joel. You're obviously a great friend of ours, a wonderful comedian. Thank you so much. But also your relationship with food, you're a very in shape man, and I've been with you when you're doing meal prep, and you're eating little foods out of boxes. You've turned up here with a fizzy protein shake.

Yeah. Is, do you like food? I actually do like food. Contrary to what I said on Saturday Kitchen when I said, food is just fuel for me. And I got so much hate. It's a terrible idea on Saturday Kitchen to just say food is fuel. And when you went on Top Gear, I just say fuel is food.

That's it. He's a wise cracker, GB, as well. Oh, I wish you just said out of your poof and then went back. Goodbye. Yeah, and I just, it's amazing though, food prep stuff. It just makes you, I, yeah, in 2007, I think it's 2015, a steak every day. Every day? Every single day.

What kind of a steak? I didn't really mind. I don't, genuinely, I don't really know the difference between them. I feel like I'm really like... Steak every day doesn't even know the difference. How would you have it cooked? Kind of whatever, really. We'll do whatever.

Pop it in the pan, sizzle, sizzle. You'd fry it. Yeah. You'd fry the steak. That's what frying is. Was there any blood in it? A little bit of blood. I, yeah, I just sort of cook it enough.

You basically did it medium? Yeah, medium rare. Medium rare? Every day. Well, that's what I try for, but that's what I order in a restaurant. I don't really know how I cook it. And then I... You do well to fry a steak medium rare every day, I'd say.

Really? I'd be surprised if you were doing that. Do you not get heartburn? I'm actually, everyone asked me that. And actually, like, my bowels were great. It was fine. I think my bowels just got used to it. Okay, you know that heartburn and your bowels are completely...

It's not what Ed's asking you there. I know, it's that different thing. Did you get heartburn? My bowels were fine. Yeah. You thought you knew what question I was going to ask, like, you have to get it all lined up. I didn't know, yeah.

I have no idea. What's... Does heart just steak give you heartburn? Well, it's just if, you know, if you're eating that amount of red meat, I can't imagine it's good for anything really, but apparently your bowels were fine. Is it? Yeah, it was...

Are you allowed to eat steak? Am I allowed to eat steak? With your needles and stuff? With my needles. I eat it with an knife and fork, Joel. Oh. I'm trying to avoid... I'm trying to eat a lot less meat.

Okay. Almost none, I'd say. Almost none. I just... I feel... I watch Netflix documentaries and I'm like, well, I think that was about me. Yeah.

Do you know what I mean? Making a murderer. Yes. Yeah. I killed that woman. I hope no one asks me about it. Oh, no, that was me. That was me.

Oh, I'm sorry to raise a hellback. All right. This is actually a very interesting podcast for me, because I, on the last day in the jungle, was asked what my perfect meal would be. Oh, yes. And they make you whatever you want. So I've kind of done it.

I've been asked this before. But is that still your perfect meal? No. And this is why it's wonderful, because I feel like I'd make some edits. Yeah. Because also, our dream restaurant, you can have any dish from any specific place

in the world as well. So you don't need to... It doesn't need to be a general preparation of that dish. Yeah. Because then, in the jungle, you say, I'd like some strawberry cheesecake. Yeah. But we advice it could be like,

there's a strawberry cheesecake I had in this one place. And that's the one I want. Yeah. You know, that's not... The jungle can't do that. They can't do that. It's... And look, good news, just in case,

because I know you're probably used to this now, you don't have to eat a kangaroo dick first. Yeah. We're not going to make you do a load of stuff and eat a load of balls and stuff on that, and then you get your favorite meal. You just get your favorite meal. Unless your favorite meal is kangaroo dick.

It's kangaroo dick. Which case, no judgment. Well, I mean, if you've got a taste for it in the jungle... Because this is a dream restaurant, we can get you the biggest kangaroo dick. So big. It'd be this... Yeah, like the biggest one you can have.

And because it's a dream restaurant, specific kangaroo, if you wanted a skippy's dick. Oh, yeah. We can do it. Thanks for the skippy's name. So, oh, that'd be great. It's just... Yeah, it's amazing how hungry you have to be

to be like, oh, yeah, I'll have a bit of kangaroo dick. It's actually fine. The shaft tastes better than the ball. I'll tell you that much for free. Yeah? Yeah. I would not pay you for that information. No one.

No one asked for that. Nobody would ever change hands with you. Never. You've got your sparkling water. Yes. But also, I have to ask you... POPPEDONS OR BREAD, JOEL! POPPEDONS OR BREAD!

Such an angry genie. So angry. Makes me laugh every time. POPPEDONS OR BREAD. I'm going to go... POPPEDONS? Yeah. Did you say...

Is it POPPEDONS? Here we go. This is exactly the sort of thing I wanted for you, Joel. Of course, you can say POPPEDONS is a whole lot. Is it POPPEDONS? Is it POPPEDONS? Of course. Who else would have been saying POPPEDONS? Is it POPPEDONS?

Yes, it's women M. POPPEDONS. It's not POPPEDONS. It's not POPPEDONS. It's not POPPEDONS like it's your POPPEDONS. POPPEDONS was a short-lived rival to POPPEDONS. They're from the same family, they're brothers. I used to call my dad POPPEDONS.

POPPEDONS? Yeah, POPPEDONS. Hey, POPPEDONS. POPPEDONS it. POPPEDONS. You're going POPPEDONS. Even out of everyone we've met, have an easy way to remember how to say POPPEDONS

if you want it to. It's that my dad is my POPPEDONS. You could have even remembered it and you haven't. You've been calling POPPEDONS your whole life. POPPEDONS. But nobody's... You know, nobody's there to tell you the difference. They are.

They're always a whole life. We just... POPPEDONS. We just... Straight away, as soon as you said POPPEDONS, just picked you up on it. A couple of people no one else has ever said to you. POPPEDONS.

Surely a weight like an Indian weight would have gone, so that's completely wrong. No. Two people like... Waiters are two people like that. They'll pick you up on pronunciation. Yeah. Surely.

If I was on a table... If I was on a table sticking in the corner with your hands behind you. Yeah. Yeah. If I'm ordering for an Indian restaurant, there's so much other things going wrong. POPPEDONS is going to be the least of their worries.

Sure. I'm terrible in Indian restaurants because I just... I'm so bad. I don't... I just don't... I've been to an Indian restaurant, I think, with you next to...

Yeah. Next to where we lived in Edinburgh. And it's just... I'm so... I'm just... It's one of those things I just don't know what to order. I have no idea.

So I'm just like, give me... anything. POPPEDONS. POPPEDONS. And Kurei. Kurei. Kurei. Kurei.

Kurei. I see. Ran. Ran. Ran. Ran. I see. She can karmar? Please?

But haven't you been in enough Indian restaurants to know what you like now? Like, haven't you had a Kurei that's really nice and then you're like, oh, that's what I'll get every time? I had... Oh, no. I was going to...

I just realised Naan is different to POPPEDONS. Yeah. POPPEDONS. You're still calling it POPPEDONS? It's the POPPEDONS... Sorry. It's confusing a bunch.

The POPPEDONS... Are the POPPEDONS the crisps? Yeah, the big crisps. The big crisps. Yeah. Naan. I don't like those. You don't like them?

No, I prefer... Can I have bread, please? Yeah. Can you change your order? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Do you want naan bread? Is that what you want?

I want naan bread. Pashwari naan. Oh, good. Can I have some? Yeah, kind of. Well, we did say POPPEDONS or bread, so naan bread I'll allow. Yeah, definitely.

And Pashwari naan specifically. It's delicious. It's too sweet. Too sweet for a star, I'd say. Yeah. I'd have it with a curry. But... It's just...

It's like little pockets of just sugar. Yeah. Yeah. It's cheat day. Fair enough. If you want it... It's cheat day, I can have it. If you want it, you got it, mate.

I don't think I've ever had a different naan. I've always ordered that. That's the one I love. Okay. We'll come in right up. Yeah, thank you so much. And to start, sir? Start?

And to start, please... I think I'm going to go for nachos, please. I like nachos because you never know what size it's going to be when it arrives. I feel like when you order the nachos, they always arrive and everyone's like, Oh, it's bigger. Oh, it's bigger.

Oh, it's bigger. Oh, wait. I feel like always... Great. I feel like there's always this awkward situation where you're sharing it, but there's always one crisp with loads of cheese on it and everyone is being polite and eating around that one bit.

I just take it and I go straight for it. And then it's just one little try. What are you having on the nachos? Is there a choice or is you just... This is the dream restaurant. Well, the thing is, I mean, you can just like... Is there anywhere where you got nachos that is the best nachos you've ever had?

Best nachos I've ever had in the world. I was in Mexico and Minish Kumar. It was the day after I'd run the ultramarathon. Which is how long? It was a tiny little village. How far is the ultramarathon? 32 miles. And I was so knackered.

It was just absolutely dead. And there was this little place that we were eating every day and it was prop... There's something about the guacamole there that was... It was just another level. I don't know what they put in it. It was just insane.

Avocados. It was avocados. Avocados, definitely. Almost certainly. It was just a mate. And the nachos were just incredible. And we went in the last day and we were like, can we have some nachos, please?

And she was like, we've run out of guacamole. And we were like, oh no. And then Nish kicked off and then... And then we managed to get this massive bowl of guacamole. Made fresh guacamole for me and Nish. And we were supposed to wait for the rest of the crew to come and like eat with us.

And we just polished off this entire bowl of guacamole. Like it was huge. And we both just sat there and just like... I love that you'd run an ultramarathon and Nish just polished off the guacamole. Polished off the entire guacamole. That's his marathon. Yeah.

A whole bowl of guacamole. Ultra guac. It was the worst... I ran this ultramarathon. And the worst part about it wasn't the fact that I ran it. It was the day before they had this energy drink. It's called penole. Where Nish found it for me.

And it's like this sort of... Made of like oil and grain and stuff. And the day before we would do it, he was like, Jarl of Fanny is penole. I was like, great. He's like, gonna give you energy. And so I downed the entire bottle. The entire massive bottle.

I threw it on the floor and I ran around. I was like, look, I've got so much energy here. I mean, it's all really funny. I can't help but listen to this and imagine it being acted out in drunk history. And I don't know why. I don't know why. This isn't the characters.

Jarl, I've got this too. Can you give me loads of energy? Oh, I've got loads of energy now. I need to run round. Yep, carry on. And then the next day, I woke up and my bowels wouldn't shut. Like it was...

Obstetive steak. Yeah. Yeah, could have done with some steak stick. Honestly, I've never been like that. I was on the toilet like it just was... I would get off the toilet in 30 seconds. I was back on and it was just... Everything was gone from my body.

Well, you know, first tip there. As soon as you said Nish found the drink for me, I was like, you're going to get diarrhea. Because Nish is never off the toilet. Nish actually enjoys having diarrhea. So anything, any food that you're given, Nish has gone out and found you. It's not a good idea to eat.

It's such an amazing thing watching like how long it takes like a crew member to be influenced by Nish's like toilet talk. Because like at the start of the thing, like it would be like a... camera operator or something. And then Nish would be like, oh, I just did the biggest shit.

And like that person would be like, oh no, Nish, stop it. Oh, that's a disgusting Nish. And then like four days in, like this camera operator would sit down and be like, I just did a massive shit, I've never done. And they were like, oh god. Just everyone by the end. And so I was felt so ill.

And then the medic gave me loads of these pills to like bung me up. And then they put me in this, this costume to run the marathon in. And it was like a red, tiny top and then a white skirt. Right. And I all like a thing. Traditional, it's like traditional dress.

Traditional dress. Yeah. So not costume, but... Yeah, that's probably... It was a fancy dress. Yeah, it's a stupid, funny costume for idiots. It's really respectable, lovely outfit. And I was just scared that I was going to shit all over it.

White skirt. So white skirt. It's the absolute, I mean... Petrified. Sounds like Nish really knew what he was doing, if I'm honest. Yeah. There's a reason why Nish doesn't wear a white skirt. Yeah.

Yes, there is. Yeah. And I was just like, I'm going to shit myself before the first corner. Like I'm going to shit down this white skirt. Everyone in the village was watching. And then I was like, oh no. And then I just, so I went for it

and I didn't shit myself in the first corner. And then I carried on running around. And I just, I ran the entire 32 mile marathon on one banana. And that was it. Yeah. And got to the end and I just cried so much. And I just, I can't remember what I started telling the story, but... Oh yeah, the nachos.

Yeah, the nachos. And it was the best. That's why it was the best meal ever. Because it was like the first thing that I ate after doing that massive run on nothing. And nothing in my body. And it was the first and most delicious. And was it just nachos and guac?

Yeah, just nachos and guac. I don't like spicy vibes. I don't like, I don't trust jalapenos. What don't you trust about them? Because I feel like they're the poor person of peppers. The poor person of peppers. You know? Peter Piper.

Peter Piper. The poor person of peppers. He picked the poor peppers. Because I think, you know, because they put them, they're like the bigger ones. And I feel like they're probably easily attainable compared to different peps. Well, the sort of, the sort of peps,

the peps they put on nachos are like pickled jalapenos. Oh, really? How did you say that? Jalapenos. Oh, yeah? Is that the correct? That's what I would say. Jalapenos. But a fresh jalapenos. A fresh jalapeno jalapeno.

I'm not going to argue it either way. Correct. Yeah. A fresh one is delightful. Papa Dom's. Jalapenos on the, jalapenos on the Papa Dom's. Because I'm not a big fan of the pickle ones. No.

I've got a pickle ones. I like them. I wouldn't, I wouldn't have a pickle one on a nacho out of choice. You wouldn't? If it's there, no. I would. I would have it on there.

I'd have chili, beef chili, cheese, pickled jalapenos, and guacamole. Yeah, sour cream. Yeah, I'll probably get sour cream. Sour cream to cool it down. Oh, yeah, I've recently. Salsa. I always used to be like sour cream off.

Wasn't interested. Oh, I take it all back. Yeah, that's great. Was there a turning point? I think there was. I can't remember when it was though. There was something recently, where I just started having sour cream with it.

And it was just so good. But what was it? It was because it was, I had a party around my house. Yeah. Don't know why I find that funny. Yeah, I know why. Because it sounded like it was six. Carry on.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Loads of people came over. Party bags. There was, there was definitely a sour cream dip that was left behind. But what was our dipping in it? I kept dipping something in it. And it was delicious.

Were your hands behind your head? No, no, no, no, no. Hands, hands. Well, I could see them. And I was dipping. Sounds like you did. But what was our dipping in there? What was our dipping in there?

And they had to fold back a bit. And you went, a carrot. I dipped something real nice in there. And it was, I kept on exclaiming about it and telling people how delicious it was. Sounds like you. I can't remember what it was. Was it something unusual?

I don't think it was. Well, maybe it's a bit unusual. Breadstick. No, I didn't. There were breadsticks at the party, but I didn't. Oh, I nearly had it then. This is so great to watch. Joel, were you at the party?

I wasn't at the party. I think James was the only one at the party. I was at the party. Yeah, no, you guys weren't there. I love breadsticks. Because you feel like a, you feel like a sort of a rabbit when you eat them. Well, you, of course, did a show called

Pretending to Smoke with a Breadstick. Yes. Yeah, and I had so many breadsticks that month. So many breadsticks. Did you get free breadsticks? I didn't, actually. I should have, I should have actually got some sort of sponsor. I mean, I find them impossible to eat slowly.

You can't just put me, you can't do that. Yeah, exactly. You feel like a cartoon rabbit. Oh, yeah. You feel like one of those, those wood chopping machines. Yeah. That you see outside Bosch people's houses. It's like, then it comes out of the back.

Now we've done a good job filling for time there. So now we're going to go back to James and we're going to find out if he's remember what he was doing. I'm trying to think about it, but like... Was it vegetables? Mmm. Wasn't vegetables? No, it was...

Sausages. Little sausages. Oh, it's going to really annoy me, isn't it? I'm not going to be able to move on until I thought about what it was that I loved dipping in the sour cream. I absolutely loved it. And I remember being me, so I bought all of the bowls of the nibbles myself.

And there was some lentil chips, but it wasn't those. Pringles? It wasn't Pringles. There was... Kettle chips. Pitter chips as well. It wasn't those. That would be good, though.

Oh, that would be good in sour cream. Oh, my Christ. What was it? It was so nice. And I was so... Just your fingers. Excited that I'd gone and got them. I've got some...

Fingers. Little poppadums as well. It wasn't mini-poppadums. It wasn't those. People call me mini-poppadum. Oh, yeah? It's going to get to your dad's poppadum. Yeah, I remember that.

And your mini-poppadum. Yeah, I get it. Poppadum, yeah. That's nice, I like that. So, moving on. I just don't trust white sauces. I'll say that. I'll throw that in the mix.

You happy that you're out there? Yeah. Yeah. I just... But I find it to be the same joke about nations. I just don't trust it. I don't... I don't...

Okay. Obviously, it's... Obviously, subconsciously, it's something to do with some basic sperm-based vibes. Right. But I just... Not obviously. That's not obvious.

No? No. Not obvious to anyone that that would be why you wouldn't trust it. Do you think it's just on your food? Yeah, maybe it's not. I just... Maybe I think... I just don't like mayonnaise.

I don't like sour cream. I don't like bread sauce. Is that coming into it? What is bread sauce? Well, hopefully, no one's coming into it. That's the problem. What is bread sauce? Yeah.

Well, what do you think might be in there? I mean, I think, obviously, it's bread, but it doesn't taste as good as bread. It's got to be a sauce. It's got to be better than the thing. I like bread sauce. Bread sauce. What?

But none of this has to go on the naturals. This is your dream restaurant. So, you've got guac on there. Yeah. And that's it. So, you're just going naturals and guac. Guac. Guac.

That's your starter. Guac one. Natchez and guac. Personally, I would go guac. Ah! I'll tell you what I got. What? And it was poppadoms,

but it was the sensations poppadoms that are like the lime and coriander flavour. Now, what did you have to look at on your phone to work out what that was? Photo of the snack tape. Have you got pictures? I knew he's got pictures of the snack tape. But that's what I found that eating those...

Those poppadoms, those mini poppadoms sensations poppadoms in that sour cream was the most delicious thing. It was so nice. I'm really glad we got there. Put a main course, sir. Main course, please. James A. Castor and Edward Gambelle. I think I'm going to have

chips and beans and sausages with cheese on top. Okay. Right. Okay. I am. This is the first time I've been angry on the podcast. Absolutely awful. Well, Joel, happy seventh's birthday.

Have you just been swimming? I got my best badge. Now, Ed had a guess of what you might say for this one. What did you think I was going to say? And I think when you hear it... I'm going to be like... You're going to be like, I should have said that. Yeah, what did you think I was going to say?

Your mum's lasagna. Yeah, it's a good shout. And I thought about putting that on the list. It's so good. And you guys both know my mum. And she's a great culinary artist. I've had your mum's lasagna. Yeah, yeah.

So to speak. It does sound bad, doesn't it? Yeah, it sounds bad. It does sound bad. But I'll tell you the problem. It's got a bashermel on it, which is a white sauce. A white sauce. Yeah, yeah.

But I guess you've never been scared that your mum's jizzed into your lasagna, right? I trust her implicitly. She wouldn't get a guy over to jizz you in the lasagna. She drank my piss once. Have I told you the story? Oh, God. No, but obviously don't pause.

Just tell the story. I went on a football tour when I was 16 years old. So when you were 16, she drank your piss? Yeah. Yes. I don't know if it makes it better or worse. Is it thicker at that age? No, it's just like, you know, it's more...

You know, I feel, I just feel weird about it. The younger you are, the weirder I feel about it. Yeah. You know. Yeah, it does feel a lot. It does feel a lot. It's thicker. No, you see it.

Thick piss when you're 16. And I went on a football tour and I was not, I wasn't very good at football. I was the substitute and we went on a bus all the way to Loretta Mar. And I played two minutes of football. I played two minutes of the last match. I thought he didn't bring me on for the first one. I can't help but feel this is extraneous detail. It's extraneous.

I'm just painting it for you so we can put it on drunk histories. And then it was the first time I ever had a holiday with lads, you know? And so we were drinking for the first time. It was the first time I ever vomited. And we bought loads of San Miguel beers. Yes. And there was this guy called Phil Williams. And I thought it would be funny to piss it,

because my piss was the same color as San Miguel and everyone talked about how my piss was the same color as San Miguel. What, how did they know that? He's just common knowledge isn't on the bus. Not really. It's about it on the bus. Everyone's pisses. And so I pissed into a bottle.

Same color as San Miguel. I screwed the top back on. And then I was thick as honey. It was a real broth. And like it's me so sweet. And then put it back in Phil Williams' room. Because everyone was like, I thought he's going to drink this. This is going to be hilarious.

Didn't think anything. I don't know. And then I didn't hear anything for the rest of the holiday. And I assumed that he just either drank it, was embarrassed, put it away, whatever. I ended up taking loads of bottles of beer home with me in my suitcase. Because I thought, you know, I was a thrifty guy. Put them back in the fridge when I got home.

And I mean, I think you can put the rest of that together. Please tell me. No, no. I want to hear it. I was in my run playing PlayStation. And I just remember my mom just shrieking from the kitchen. To be like, Chow! Chow!

What is in this bottle? And I was like, oh, I don't really know. And she was like, oh, I taste. At that moment, I was like, she's drinking my piss. She's drinking my piss. Did you tell her in that moment? No. But I think she knew.

I think you just get to a certain age. And you just know. A mother knows. A mother knows. A mother knows that they taste this on this. That's Jolls. You know. And it was weird.

I think it's the closest we've ever been. She probably is getting people who just eat lasagna with us. Yeah. Yeah, to get me back. So let's not be around the bush, Joel. You've picked sausage, chips, and beans with cheese on top. Yes. So I picked this.

I'm sorry for picking that, James. I apologize. But that is the meal that I had every single day in school. Every day. So it's from the school canteen as well. From the school canteen. And I had sausage, chips, and beans with cheese on the top, to the point where they knew it was my usual.

I didn't even have to ask for it. I was like, usual please? And they'd do that. Yeah. And despite what was on offer, they'd go in the back and they'd whip you up sausage, chips, and beans with cheese on top. That was great.

I mean, there wasn't really much on offer. It was my own sort of personal recipe. And it was just, I just remember it being the most delicious thing in the world. And then I'd have a chocolate doughnut. And then the drink that you turn upside down and you just bite the top off. Do you know the ones that you'd have the cup?

It's a cup you'd have filled right at the top. And you'd turn it upside, the cool guys would turn it upside down and bite the bottom off the cup and then squeeze it into your mouth. Right. Instead of using a straw. You're supposed to punch it with a straw on you, but the cool guys were... Cool guys.

Right. Because they're straws. Straws with the weebs. Sure. I think they are now. They're very bad for the environment. Yeah, you would get in the middle of them. But then certain people are running

against the straws getting rid of as well. You know, certain people who need straws to be able to drink, you know, might have disabilities. They think the straw ban is actually quite a bad thing. So, you know, I don't want to get in the middle of a straw war here. So either way, I personally do my best to cut down on straws because I don't need them. Yeah.

Joel. Chips. Any particular type? Are we talking standard chips, curly fries, sweet potato chips? Standard chips. It's like a standard school meal before this bloody Jamie Oliver got involved. So, shit sausages as well. Shit sausages, the ones that kind of, if you can really,

like when you cut through it, you can see this, it's like thin skin that you're like, that's not a thing. And it's just pasted inside. Yeah, pasted inside. Like the cheese was like clearly like pre-grated frozen still, took a while to melt. But I had it every, and in my, and clearly, if I had that meal now, I would be like, oh my God, that's disgusting.

I'd feel sweaty and horrible. Yeah. Which is why you've ordered it. That's why I've ordered it in a restaurant where you can literally order anything you want from anywhere in the world. And I picked sausage. You've ordered a meal that you know you would think is disgusting and the cheese is still frozen.

Yet, imagine nostalgia. You would taste it and you'd be like, ah, take me, hark, take me back. So back to school, was school happy, was school happy days for you? You liked school? Pretty happy days, actually, yeah. It was, yeah, it was great. I've heard you talk about school on stage in a negative light.

Yeah, it was like, I mean, it was genuinely fine. Everyone got bullied a little bit, didn't they? No, at lunchtime, if you're eating sausages. I used to genuinely get lunch and just sit down, because if you're eating lunch, then you don't really get bullied. Like that was my thing. If I'm not in the playground, then I wouldn't get, you know. But then I always felt like the queue for lunch was always just like,

it was a treacherous place. Or when you've got a full tray of food, come and knock the tray out of your hand. Me and Steve Dunn, you guys both know. We absolutely loved our favorite thing, to have a full school meal and then just pretend to trip up and throw it everywhere. That was our favorite thing that we used to do. Did that were your sausage chips to me?

Yeah, we would usually eat it first, and then so you just have an empty tray, but with loads of cutlery and stuff on it. And then pretend to trip up and you throw it everywhere, and then you'd be like, and everyone would look at you, and that was your way of getting attention. I don't think I've ever said this before, but I think you deserve to be bullied.

Thank you. Thank you, Ed. Thank you. I think that's a pleasure. You draw attention to yourself. Yeah. In a negative way, like this clumsy. Yeah.

You and Steve Dunn have a funny old thing as well, and I went to a supermarket with you and Steve Dunn once, because you'd planned your perfect meal that you wanted to eat, and they were going, we can have palaminos. Oh, yeah. And Steve and Joel were going, palaminos, and they were going, palaminos, a palaminos. And I was like, what is this?

This is crazy thing, palaminos. This sounds Mexican, and they're going to buy some spices. Yeah. And I was like, what is it? They're like, oh, we get some bread, right? And it's some ham and some cheese, and we toast the sandwich. Ham and cheese toasty.

Ham and cheese toasty. And you're calling it a palamino? Well, we think that a ham and cheese toasty, it's just like it deserves a name. Yeah, and it's got one. It's a ham and cheese toasty. People are going to call it a palamino. But like, it's a fancy dish.

Don't call it a chicken korma, chicken and cream and other things are in it. Because there's loads of ingredients in a chicken korma. Yeah, but like sausage, what is it? Ham and cheese toasty. Yeah. Ham and cheese toasty. I just feel like it's such a staple of the English diet. Like, and it's so delicious.

So English that it deserves to be called a palamino. And so we brainstormed some names of an afternoon, and we thought palamino is a great name for a ham and cheese toast. Do you know what a palamino is? No, what is a palamino? It's already a thing. It's already a thing? It's a type of horse.

Oh, shit. Really? Oh, we should have googled it. What's a palamino? Palaminopony. Palaminopony, mate. You're all saying it to me, as if that's the thing that people should know.

I hadn't heard of it before. Palaminopony. It's pretty funny that what's different between a palaminopony and a normal one? And a ham and cheese toasty. There's many differences. Beans on toast. Baker's Taddle.

A what? A Baker's Taddle. Taddle? Yes. Oh, this is what you and Steve... Yeah, yeah, yeah. Beans on toast. Baker's Taddle.

I feel like that's a good one. Baker's Taddle. Yeah, because everyone's... Yeah, I feel northern Beans on toast. Because they're like, Oh, tell you what, tell you what, look. Fancy a Baker's Taddle. Couldn't rustle me up a Baker's Taddle.

And you do it. Because otherwise it's just Beans on toast. But, and yet, there's no name for sausage, chips, beans with cheese on top. No, actually, that's just the usual. Of course, the usual. Fair enough, yeah, that's just the usual. Yeah.

And a side dish, sir? Side dish. I think I'm going to go with sweet potato fries, because I feel like that's an absolute classic side. I'm going to burn this restaurant to the ground. I'm sorry, why would... This is on the side of your chips and sausage and beans. Yes, I'm going to go extra quick, because...

Chips and sweet potato fries? Well, it's more for educational purposes, because people think the sweet potato fries are healthy. But they're the same as normal chips. They're actually the same, because people are like, whoever's doing the PR for sweet potato fries, it's absolutely smashing it. Yeah.

Yeah, I mean, there's more fiber. There's different things in it, but it's like different... Here comes the science, go for it. Different things in it. This is about to be like a toothpaste after that. Different things in it, yeah. The, yeah, there's different stuff in them both,

but they're not necessarily... They're not the same thing, that's what you're saying. They're not the same thing. If you're deep-frying something, it's still, you know... Exactly, it's still bad. So you're trying to educate people on nutrition by having both chips and sweet potato fries in the same meal, right?

Yeah, and then I put them both together, I take an Instagram snap of it, and I say something beneath it. Yeah, yeah. Okay, what would that be? Like I say, did you realize these actually have the same bad properties? They're tastier.

They are tastier, I'll give them that. Yeah. I really do not like sweet potato, because I don't think sweet potato is my favorite vegetable. I'm going to sss... Okay, that's good. That or parsnips?

Parsnips are good. Yeah, yeah, sure. Parsnips with sweet potato fries. It's just sweet potato. It's just sweet potato mash is the best thing in the world. It's just amazing. So that's not your side? I should have picked sweet potato mash.

Sweet potato mash is not your side. Sweet potato fries are, is that right? No, because remember, the educational element. Yeah, because I... Because you want to teach people? I'm a man of the people. I'm a man of the people. Yeah.

So you come in and you've ordered a meal that you are aware that now as an adult will taste disgusted to you, and you've accompanied it with a completely redundant side dish, just to educate people on Instagram. Yes, yeah. And I'm stick...

I'm sticking to... Sticking to my gut. Right, there's your side. Sweet potato fries. Sweet potato fries. Very hipster, isn't it? Sweet potato fries. They're very...

They're very old. It's a time when I feel like salted caramel, sweet potato fries, and pulled pork all at the same time so you rose up and halloumi. Yeah. And it was something... Oh, halloumi.

I should have picked halloumi. Halloumi is just like the best... It's the best thing in the world. It is. All right, so sweet potato mash just got a very, very short time at the top there for sweet potato mash, not toppled by halloumi.

It's just... Tell you what, there's never been a time that I put halloumi in my mouth where I've not made my own white sauce. That was too much, wasn't it? I loved it. Wasn't too much. Definitely going to keep it in.

If the audience don't have to, you know, experience the look, you gave both of us afterwards. You said it and then looked at Ed, looked at me. It was a real appeal for a laugh because you knew that if it didn't get a laugh, you would have to confront yourself

with quite how disgusting. Yeah, that your white sauce depends. Unless you're not talking about... Unless you literally mean you make a specific sauce for it in the kitchen because you want to... It's a good side. Absolutely.

Yeah, I was talking about sour cream. Yeah, sure. For the little problems. You sour your own cream. Oh, I don't... Halloumi is the best. And also, I think... I absolutely cannot believe that

for most of your courses so far, we have named other things. You've gone, I love that so much more, infinitely more than the thing that I named earlier. I should have... I should have sort of... I should have had chat.

I would say you are completely ambivalent about sweet potato fries. I don't think you care about them whatsoever. I'm pretty glad. At all. With sweet potato mash, which is just one step removed from it. You love.

And then Halloumi is like the... It's a perfectly acceptable side dish. Halloumi fries you can have. You can have Halloumi just as it is. You should have done a podcast before the podcast. Yeah, to remind you what food you like. The podcast you've come on is Joel Names of the First Foods, you thought.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But here we are. That's what's happening. Joel, what drink are you having to accompany this? I think, genuinely, I have a protein shake. I do like protein shakes. I really love them. I have them all the time.

This new one, which is absolutely delicious, has a little bit of strawberry in it. Just really tangy, lovely. What's it called? It's an optimum nutrition one. Not being paid by them. And before I go to bed, I have a casein protein, which is like...

You have a protein shake before you go to bed? Yeah, absolutely. Especially because you've got to work out in your drink. I've seen him do this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then I also have that. I spread that over my porridge in the mornings. I love porridge.

I really love porridge. Sometimes, sometimes. I never think that you like more than anything you've ever listed today. Yeah, yeah. Could have been your starter. Yeah, I think that's good of it. Sometimes I go to bed early,

so porridge time comes quicker. Really? Sometimes, you're just like... I love that. You're like sat there and you're like, oh, I could watch something else on Netflix or I could just go to bed early and then porridge time comes.

Do you ever struggle getting to sleep because you're so excited about the porridge the next day? Like, actually, yes. So we've got protein shake to drink and then what are you having for pudding? Pudding time. I think you know what you're going to have for pudding, right? You think that I know what you're going to have for pudding?

Do you know? Oh, so I should know this, then. Well, it was a thing that I actually really love. I've gone through an interesting sort of curve with it because I loved it and I said that I loved it a couple of times, although I'm sorry, we're getting me out of here. And then everyone started buying them for me

and every TV show I was on, they kept on giving them to me to the point where I hated it. And then I was like, ugh, and then for a whole year, I didn't have any. And now I'm fully back in. I can't. Absolutely love it again.

And it's like new metal. I feel like it's really back. It's coming back, yeah. It's really coming back and it's cool again in my mind. It's strawberry cheesecake. Strawberry cheesecake. Strawberry and white chocolate to be specific, actually. Very nice.

And is it from a specific place? Actually, so there's one that I've never actually got to eat. There was one, no, actually. You know what? Yes, I did eat it. I'm going to have this one instead. There was, when you come out of the jungle, they tell you the doctors always don't have dairy straight away.

Like you chill out with the dairy. Everything else, they just eat slowly. But you're so skinny. And you have a dairy, coffee, sugar for a month, essentially. And I completely ignored that information. And I ate two whole cheesecakes. Like literally the opposite of what they told you to do. It couldn't more be the opposite.

And because someone left one in my room. I love the idea of you eating it as the doctors leaving. Yeah, they're like, yeah. That they got me one in my room. That's how I go into my hotel room. And it was honestly the most amazing cheesecake. Like it was had like the melted white chocolate on the top. And it was, ah, it was so good.

I don't know whether it was actually that good or whether it was good because I hadn't eaten anything. But it was so good. I ate the whole thing and it was thick. Like it was like this big. I'm saying like that tall. And the whole thing before I went to the after party. That's like this for the people at home.

That's like what Joel mined there, I'd say. It's like a quarter of an entire cheesecake. I don't know. Are you doing it? You're miming a whole cheesecake there? Yeah. Oh, so hold on. I'd say like.

Oh, so that was small steering. There was not a slice of cheesecake in there. You had a whole wheel of cheesecake. I'm not talking slices. Okay. I'm talking. And you ate the whole thing. Entire pie chart.

You ate the whole thing. Whole thing. Not even joking. Whole thing. I just couldn't stop. Yeah. I just couldn't stop putting it in my mouth. Yeah.

And then, in fact, I think I like three quarters of it then went to the after party, came back, left there pretty quick because it was really weird in me out. And then I at the other quarter, went to bed for probably about half an hour. Right. And then I woke up and I have never vomited like that in all of my life.

Right. Yeah. Like, it was like. It's almost as if they should get a doctor to tell you to open it down. I know. They should have warned me about it. But it was like from the soul vomiting.

You know, it wasn't like, I don't think I've ever really vomited when I've not been drunk. Yeah. I don't know. I've, it was just like pay. But it was painful. But it also, because it was so soon after eating the cheesecake,

it's still tasted of cheesecake. And you liked it. And so you were like, oh, this is painful, but it's so delicious. Yeah. It's kind of like, it was kind of delicious. So that's what you want for dessert, is it? The thing that made you vomit from your soul.

Yeah. Right. Yeah. Yeah. So there you go. That you pooped up so much. Yeah. Shall we run through Mr. Genie?

Yes. Should we take Joel through his order and see if you receive, well, we know he regrets it. Yes. Oh, God. Mini Papa Domit. This is what you ordered. You would like some sparkling water

that you've bought from home. Some naan bread. Some nachos from Mexico after you've done the marathon with the homemade guacamole. You'd like some chips, beans, sausages, and cheese from your school canteen. A side of sweet potato fries with those. I regret that.

A protein shake that has a little bit of strawberry in it. And a strawberry and white chocolate cheesecake that once made you sick. Yes. Yes. Well, I regret about half of those. Yeah. It's been, look, I've had a lovely time doing this.

Yeah. And you've been a wonderful guest, Joel. Yes. But I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that is the worst meal we've had on the board. Oh, what? Well, Joel, the base level criteria for it is that the guest enjoys the food.

Yeah. And the fact that you have chosen a meal that you thought of about five different meals during that that you would infinitely prefer. Yeah, that's true. To what you ordered. Hey, guys, the journey, not the destination. The journey.

Sometimes we just say a phrase and they kind of don't answer the fact. The journey not the destination, even though you've even told a story during this, where you had a horrible journey, running around trying not to shit yourself and then the destination was sitting and having guacamole and it was great.

Yeah, that's true. And it's the journey, not the destination, but there's not many journeys where you go on the halfway through, you go, I've come the wrong way. Yeah. That's what this journey was. That's true.

It's, we've lost the bowel, but won the war. There we go. And what better way to end? Thank you so much for coming, Joel. Thank you so much, Joel. It's a pleasure. Thank you so much for having me in your lovely restaurant.

It's really delicious. Well, the toilet's just over there. If you want to go and be horribly sick. That was Joel Domet. And his dream meal. Well done. I'm assuming that went well. I'm assuming he turned up

because we're recording this before he's even arrived. Yeah. You got to rush off after we've, we're talking to Joel. I've got a meeting about a hot new project. No, I'm not going to give you any details about it, but safe to say, It's like someone's doing strictly.

I think I'm getting picked up off this. You're going to do strictly? You're going to succumb to the curse? Will you do it, wouldn't you? Oh, yeah, because I'd love to be cursed. So Joel Domet there built his perfect meal. I don't know what it's going to be. No, but you know, it'll be here.

Definitely, I would wager at some point, he said something deliberately to wind us up. What? One of the courses will be something that he knows will hate and he'll be really excited to say it. All right. Okay.

I'm looking forward to meeting him and chatting about that. Yes. But he was a wonderful guest. I'm sure we can all agree, the timelines are a bit messed up now. I continue to be on tour in January through till May. Congrats.

Thank you very much. I'm on tour next year as well. I haven't... You should plug that, mate. I got to mention that last time. Yes. But yeah, jamesacaster.com for tickets. Yeah.

Where are you going on tour? All around Britain. And the Edinburgh Comedy Festival next year. Doing Edinburgh? Two weeks, not the whole thing. And I plan to do a venue that's not in the centre. The castle. Not in the hub.

Yeah, maybe in one of the turrets of the tattoo. So, go and watch James at the tattoo next year. And I'll be on tour all around the UK and then probably on holiday in Greece. So, lovely to hear from you. Bon appetit. Bon appetit. Hello, it's me, Amy Gladhill.

You might remember me from the best ever episode of Off Menu, where I spoke to my mum and asked her about seaweed on mashed potato and our relationship's never been the same since. And I am joined by... Me, Ian Smith. I would probably go bread. I'm not going to spoil in case... Get him on, James and Ed.

But we're here sneaking in to your podcast experience to tell you about a new podcast that we're doing. It's called Northern News. It's about all the new stories that we've missed out from the north because, look, we're two Northerners, sure. But we've been living in London for a long time. The new stories are funny. Quite a lot of them crimes.

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