Off Menu with Ed Gamble and James Acaster - Ep 75: Corey Taylor

Episode Date: September 23, 2020

It’s time to Wait and Feed as we welcome Slipknot frontman Corey Taylor – whose debut solo album ‘CMFT’ is released soon – to the dream restaurant. And, boy oh boy, is Ed a happy metalhead.Corey Taylor’s debut solo album ‘CMFT’ is released on 2nd October. Pre-order here.Follow Corey Taylor on Twitter: @CoreyTaylorRockRecorded and edited by Ben Williams for Plosive Productions.Artwork by Paul Gilbey (photography and design) and Amy Browne (illustrations).Follow Off Menu on Twitter and Instagram: @offmenuofficial.And go to our website www.offmenupodcast.co.uk for a list of restaurants recommended on the show.Watch Ed and James's YouTube series 'Just Puddings'. Watch here. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Hello, listeners of the Off Menu podcast. It is Ed Gamble here from the Off Menu podcast. I have a very exciting announcement. I have written my first ever book. I am absolutely over the moon to announce this. I'm very, very proud of it. Of course, what else could I write a book about? But food. My book is all about food. My life in food. How greedy I am. What a greedy little boy I was. What a greedy adult I am. I think it's very funny. I'm very proud of it. The book is called Glutton, the multi-course life of a very greedy boy. And it's coming out this October, but it is available to pre-order now, wherever you pre-order books from. And if you like my signature, I've done some signed copies,

which are exclusively available from Waterstones. But go and pre-order your copy of Glutton, the multi-course life of a very greedy boy now. Please? Welcome to the Off Menu podcast, the only food podcast on the internet that's been buried and cooked for 24 hours in Soft Touch's garden. My name's Ed Gamble. I'm James Eggcaster and I'm cracking an egg. Just to let the listener know why James is saying that, we were trying to come up with what I should say in the intro. And James just kept saying, cracking an egg over and over again, which was a lot less helpful than he thought it was. Just trying to give you some inspiration, a little jump off point. But maybe think about

cracking an egg and then think about how that could apply to podcasts. Yeah. And as you've worked out, it can't apply to podcasts because you've just said, cracking an egg again. Well, you're the man who comes up with the start bits. That's your forte, not mine. It's clearly not my forte, is it? Because I've just had to back reference a very specific part of a podcast. And you just said, cracking an egg. And now we're about three minutes in and we've not even said what we're doing here. Oh, yeah, that's the point. I'm just going to crack this egg and see what's inside it. Oh, it says in the egg that this is the off menu podcast. It says in the egg. What do you mean it says in the egg? Nothing says anything in an egg.

It's written in the yolk. What's written in the yolk? How do you write in a yolk? How do you write in a yolk? The little chicken in the yolk before it died? The chicken is the yolk. You can't, you can't, you know, when something hatches, the yolk doesn't come out as well. The chicken grows in like what the yolk is if you don't fertilize the chicken in there. But as the chicken was turning into the yolk, it wrote in the yolk. And then what? Died. And then what is written on the dead chicken yolk? It wrote, we ask guests, their favorite ever start a main course dessert side dish and drink. We do indeed, James. And this week, our wonderful guest is Corey Taylor.

Corey Taylor, lead singer of Slipknot, Stone Sour, and now a brilliant solo artist in his own right about to release an album called CMFT, which I've heard and it is very good. And I'm very excited for it to be released. Full disclosure, Slipknot, one of Ed's favorite bands of all time. I don't think you need to even disclose that. I think I've probably spoken about that on the podcast before. I just think anyone who it's their first episode, if they want a little bit of insight and context before we go into this, this episode is a big deal. Yeah, it's exciting. I'm very excited and happy that Corey agreed to do it. Yes. Spent many, many years listening to Slipknot and going to their gigs and singing along to all their lovely songs. And at the

beginning of the year before the world fell apart, me and the great Benito went to see Slipknot record a BBC session at May DeVayle and they said it was the smallest gig that they've done in 20 years. There's only about 100 people there and one of them was the great Benito and he doesn't know any Slipknot songs. Imagine that. If there's any Slipknot fans listening now, you missed that on a chance to see one of the biggest metal bands in the world perform in a tiny room because the great Benito was there wearing his duffel coat and his friend Guy was there as well. He got to bring his friend Guy, who's also not a Slipknot fan and they both just stood there watching it like it was a play. I've never met Guy but he sounds like a Grey Day dweebo.

He actually, when I met Guy, I worked out where the great Benito is within his friendship group and let me tell you, the great Benito is the dweeb of the friendship group. Oh, really? Yeah. Well, I would have guessed that anyway. I thought you were about to say that Guy wasn't even bigger dweeb and you'd realised great Benito was the alpha but you just confirmed everyone's suspicions. The Benito was wearing his duffel coat and Guy was there wearing his leather jacket. Oh, Guy's so cool. Benito there with a Marbley sandwich under his hat. Watching Slipknot. And Clown ran into the audience. It was like throwing himself around right in front of us. Benito was gazing at it, absolutely baffled. Didn't know what was going on up there. He was like,

I'm more of a fan of theme parks than the circus, Mr. Clown. I don't know what's going on here. Hopefully, though, James, Corey Taylor will not say the secret ingredient that we have pre-established, which means if he says it, we're going to have to kick him out of the restaurant. That would devastate me if we had to do that. And this week, the secret ingredient is maggots, what Slipknot called their fans, of course, which I used to love that when I was 14, that we were all the maggots. And now the more distance I get from it, the funnier I find it that they called their fans the maggots. It's very funny, although when you saw them live in that little room, there were two people in that room who fully deserved to be called maggots. Two real-life maggots. Riggly little maggots.

So hopefully, Corey Taylor won't say maggots. I mean, he won't, will he? Come on, surely. Don't know. We never know. I know Slipknot have got a sort of quite ferocious reputation when it comes to crazy shit they used to do when they were live, but he's not going to pick maggots for his dream meal, is he? We'll see. Some people eat insects, some people eat crickets and stuff like that, ants. Maybe maggots is something he's touring the world he might have acquired a taste for. We never know. You might be about to kick one of your heroes out of the dream restaurant. Oh, God, no, please. So without further ado, here is the off-menu menu of Corey Taylor. Welcome Corey Taylor to the dream restaurant.

He's in. Welcome Corey Taylor to the dream restaurant. We've been expecting you for some time. Well, you finally accepted my reservation. It's hard to get a table in this place. It's been pretty booked up for a while, but James's entrance there. He's the genie waiter. That's why that big... I mean, you're very chilled out. You're quite used to pyrotechnics, of course. So any genie arriving, that's nothing at the moment to you, right? I'm used to it. I mean, I've never seen one dressed in such leather, but I mean, it's fine. And it's a acquired taste. I mean, hey, no, it's international flavor. I'm absolutely into it, so that's fine. What metal band has the best pyrotechnics show you've ever seen?

Ooh, besides us. Yes, of course. I mean, ours are pretty good. Man, it's a toss-up. I would say it's a toss-up between Maiden and Metallica. I mean, Metallica goes all out, but Maiden, man. They create so much on the stage that it's just, oh, God damn it. I take that back. No, it's Romstein. It has to be Romstein. I was waiting for the correct answer, Corey. Right. No, and you know what? Thank you for letting me get there on my own. I appreciate it. I mean, I've toured with them so many times, and dude, you can always tell when they've brought the load too, because the audience gets further and further away. Dude, I did a show with them, and I swear the barricade was 25 feet away, and I was just like, I can't even see anybody.

This is fucking stupid. Welcome to the Dream Restaurant. You're here, of course, and look, you've brought us a lovely gift, which is a copy of your brand new solo album, CMFT. Yes. Which is very exciting. Your first solo album under just your own name. Yeah, yeah. No pressure, right? No pressure. No pressure here, don't worry. When did you decide to do that? I mean, it's something that has kind of just been on my periphery for a long time. I talked about doing an off-off project about 11, 12 years ago with a side project called Junk Beer Kidnap Band, which was my way of doing a solo thing without actually coming out and saying

it was a solo thing. So I just kind of set that aside and just concentrated on the other two bands that obviously I have. But I always kind of had this thing in the back of my head. It's like, those songs are here, and I keep writing songs that really don't fit with either band. So maybe, sometime in the future, there would come an opportunity. And as that was happening, more people were asking me if I would ever do one. And it just got to the point where I was just like, you know what, if I don't do it now, I never will. And I knew there was something in me that really wanted to. I imagine that when you're in a band that has nine members in, in the back of your mind,

you must have been thinking about a solo project from the first band practice you had. I was like, I can't wait to get that all away from these 20 years old. So, we always start at the Dream Restaurant with still all sparkling water, Corey. Is your sparkling water flavored? It is however you want it to be. This is your dream. Okay. No one's ever gone in with that straight away with, is the sparkling water flavored? You're obviously a connoisseur. Don't want to paint myself as someone. Yeah, it's fine. You're sparkling water, sir. Of the area,

I see. No, I only really started drinking sparkling water maybe about four or five months ago, really because, I mean, like Perrier and all that crap just sounded, just tasted like a burp to me. I just was not interested. But then my wife actually got me on like the, not the LaCroix, but like the off-brand, that bubbly with 1B, which just bugs their shit out of me, but it's really good. So we don't, we don't have a bubbly, bubbly with 1B here. Is it, is it announced bubbly or is it boob, is it boob-lay? Have you got into my boob-lay? Well, I've slowly, but surely I've been waking my way into Michael Boob-lay's like whole catalog, but he's actually in the commercials for the sparkling water. He's in the shop,

and he's taking the cans down one at a time, and it's B-U-B-L-Y, and he's crossing out the Y and writing an E in on it. And I'm just like, that's fucking genius. That's really, really good. But yeah, okay. So if it's, if it's a flavored sparkling water, I will have the cherry, because I'm that kind of dick now, I guess, and we'll go from there. Would you like boob-lay to bring it to you? I mean, look, I hate to reach for the sun, but if that's, if that's there, I mean, I'll definitely have that. I understand that you don't want to start, you don't want to start too big in the dream restaurant, but you can realize all your dreams here. Boob-lay can bring you a sparkling

water and cross it out and write the E in front of you as well. Now you're just playing with my emotions, and I feel like you're going to tempt me with the power that I'm not quite used to. Well, I don't want to give you too much power, but just so you know, now we've got Boob-lay involved. He is on hand for the whole meal. So whatever you need him to bring over at any point, whatever role you want him to play in each course, he can totally do that. You've got Boob-lay now. Fantastic. I love it. I love it. Maybe, maybe he's just snapping every time he brings something over, you know? It's just like, it's like, here's your amuse-bouche. It's a little bit of everything to shove it in your face. Hey! Do you think the snapping would ever get on your nerves at any

point during the meal? Maybe once you hit like that gastro issue where you're just like, you know, yeah, that moment in the meal where you've had a little too much dairy, and you're like, you're timing it. You're just like, and he's like, are we going to go? We got to make this happen. He comes over and you're like, I don't need any jovial shit from you. Get checked. That's the problem with Boob-lay. What a lot of people don't know is his snap can often make people shit themselves. Yeah. You should get him in slip knot. I understand some of your band members deliberately shit themselves before going on stage. Boob-lay would be great. Snap his fingers. I'm happy to say that not anymore.

It used to be clown would just run out on stage and it was like, dude, it was like being at the monkey cage at the zoo. Dude, he'd just shit his hand. I mean, and I'm like, what in the fuck? Come on. Do we haven't even played a note yet? And I'm already like trying not to throw up. Dude, that fucking prick. You know what he did one time? We were playing a show and I want to say it was in France and it was a, it was a particularly ferocious French tour. We were playing all these like little side like hamlets, basically. And I mean, we had no money. We had no nothing. So every night was just a fucking war. He comes out on stage one night and he does the whole fucking, you know, Gigi Allen thing and just going insane.

I'm getting, y'all, I'm just getting ready to go into wait and bleed and he comes up and on this and I can't see him because I got to get that, you know, I got the mask on. So there's just the peripherals are not really happening. And he just wipes his fucking hand like this. And I'm like, you, I challenge anybody to try and sing and key when they're just like, it was like something out of the rings, you know, it's like a shit covered orc just standing there. And I just went, I chose this, I chose to be here. And I really, I'm really starting to regret that decision. I mean, I got through the song and was able to grab a towel and just kind of get it off before just spewing to the side. And yeah, it was, it was fucking great. It was awesome.

That's how Slipknot have maintained such sort of live ferocity because you worry about a lot of other bands who've been going for decades sort of slowing down, but you started so extreme that the down is just sort of normal for most bands when they start. Basically, yeah, it's like, we came out of the gate so nuts that only age has been able to really kind of take the edge off of it. And yet on stage, we're still just a fucking ball of like, what the fuck, like we still tour like we're 25 because we're stupid. And we're just fucking running all over the place. We've all had at least one surgery. It's just like, what the fuck are we trying to prove at this point? You know, it's so I can kick my own ass, you fucking

watch, you know, it's just so I don't get it, man. Buble is the other end of the scale, but Buble started off as soft as he possibly could. And now I was thinking, how do I ramp this up? I bet he's had a show with the trumpet players been like, look, if you want, when you're getting ready to like sing the final number, I can wipe shit on your face. It makes it kind of hard to purse though. You've got poop in your you need to be careful when Buble brings the water over because he does. This is you know what, I'm telling you, he's a little gassy and I can see it on his face, you know, he's drink, he's on his own supply right now.

Yeah, he's a Buble, he's a Buble bubbly. Pop it up for bread. Pop it up for bread, Corey Taylor. Pop it up for bread. Oh, I'm going to go, I'm going to go bread because I'm one of those bougie people that likes to eat it with the olive oil and the cracked pepper and shit. And I'll just sit there. Any particular type of bread? I will say preferably European because the best bread I've ever had is over and is on the continent. It's just, I don't know what it is. Maybe it's because it's not loaded with a bunch of bullshit like the bread here is, you know, and I having said that, I have to say there's some of the local bakeries and stuff are really good, but it just seems like

all of your guides is bread, whether it's the UK or the continent or whatever, it's just really fucking good. So I'm all, like I never really eat bread unless I'm overseas, man. Like I never even touch it. Anything like a rye, like anything with like a, like a, if I could be so a pumpernickel, a fucking pumper, I'm a fan of a pumpernickel. There you go. Would you like Buble to sing pumpernickel as he brings it to you? God could he? I mean, if it's, I mean, we're in the dream, I would have to say, you know, anything with like that, but then he'd have to refer to the grapefruit flavored sparkling water as pumple moots, you know, which is, which is so stupid. Like the first time I read that,

I was like, what the, really? Is that necessary? Like grapefruit's not funny enough. Pumple moots, you know, stupid. Also, what could go better with a slice of pumpernickel bread than Buble's buttery voice? Would you mind slathering some of that buttery voice on my pumple nigga? Is that the butter you would like? Is Buble's buttery voice? You know what? I'll take it. I can't believe it's not Buble. So we come to your starter. The proper male starts now. Yes. Almost coming up on a year ago, I stopped eating meat proper, but I still do fish and eggs. So it's kind of a pescatarian vibe, a little bit. So I try to avoid like hardcore meats and stuff. But then again, my wife is a ridiculous cook and she has a potato curry that

is so fucking good, dude, that I eat my weight and then I shit fire. Like it's that fucking good. And, uh, and it's even better like two or three days later, man. It's one of those curries, you know, but it's also one of those curries that if you, when you crack the tupperware, you can smell it in the air. You're just like, oh, Jesus, try to fill out my eyebrows. What the hell is that? So I guess I've become very, very attached to curries and, uh, which means I spend a lot of time in the bathroom. Let's put it that way. That's when you know something tastes good. That's very true. That's when you know something tastes good, that when you're eating it, you know that in like a couple of hours time, you're going to be doing a Rammstein show in the

toilet. There's recompense coming. It's not probably going to feel great, but okay, I'm into this, you know, so yeah. That's the time when you want to get clown on the phone and just be like, hey man, just wondered if you want to, um, maybe pop over for some revenge. I mean, there's just some hanging out with friends and then it comes over. You're like, how do you like my fiery shit? And it's like in his face. Don't use that bathroom. No, use, uh, use the one that I just came out of. Yeah. I really appreciate that. So is that what you want for your started? Yeah. Your wife's potato curry. You know what I'll do. And it's one of our favorite dishes is a Penang curry with tofu.

And it's like at like volcano levels, which is righteous, man. Yeah. So we'll do a Penang curry with, uh, jasmine rice, uh, tofu, uh, bell peppers, not too much cabbage though, because that shit pisses me off, but maybe some broccoli and then I'm a loaded weapon. Now Corey, this, this is only a starter. This is the, this is the appetizer you've gone absolutely all in with a full curry and rice. Oh yeah. And absolutely. And very bold starting with a dish that you know is going to make you need a shit immediately. Oh, immediately. You know, see in my dream, we're just across the street from my house. So I'm in right there. So I don't even have to worry about ballet. I don't have to drive, trying to get a cab. I'm, I dab, drop, key,

home. And that's when we're good to go. You know, so I'm, so I'm already on, on the way. So, so in that situation, if you're in a restaurant that was opposite your house and you needed to shit like at the beginning of the meal, would you always go home and shit and then come back to the restaurant? Or would you use the restaurant toilet? You know what? My away game is not great. I don't like, I don't, I have a, it takes me like, and this is true. It takes me about a week to get used to shitting on the road. Like when we're like more on tour and stuff, there's a, there's a safety with your own John, you know, like it's, it's, it's your spot. You know, you can blow it up if you want to. And, and there's the added terror of somebody recognizing me. And then you're walking in and

it's just like, dude, you should, you know, Corey Taylor, you just destroyed the bathroom at all of garden, you know, that's all I need. It's just some fucking weird shit to follow me around. So yeah, I would definitely run back and forth if need be, you know, I'd put the thumb over the hose and just try not to get in. If it takes you a week to get used to shitting on the road, I'm glad I've never seen you on a show six of a tour. Dude, it's, yeah, I mean, it tends to be a little bulbous, you know, there's, there's definitely some pressure, some pain happening. And I guess, I guess it's not so much a week anymore because you almost get used to it. But I tell you this, after this quarantine, it's going to take me forever to get fucking used to shitting on

the road. Again, Jesus Christ, excuse me, where the hell did that come from? That's great. I want more burps on the off menu. It's appropriate. It shows you appreciate the food. It absolutely is. That's, you know, where I come from, that's considered a compliment. I'm just saying if you saw it, but me and Buble just high fived mission accomplished. I definitely felt it. I definitely felt it. Yeah. Also, a minute ago, you said after the curry, you want to dab, drop key home. Right. Now the listener couldn't see the mime you did to go along with that. Yes. Would you like to clarify to the listener? Because I think this is the question they will have. Where are you dabbing? Oh, well, I mean, it's in the ass area, you know. Okay.

I thought you were dabbing the mouth of the food. Like a gentle. And then going home, but you're dabbing your ass before you leave to go to the bathroom. Listen, I don't know what your, what your rule is against language or anything like that, but there may be, depending on the heat of the curry, there may be some seepage. I'm not going to lie to you. It's, it's a concern in the Taylor household. It's, it's more of like, and you tend to run with your chest forward and your ass a little more. It's not something you want to see, but when you've seen it, you realize there's danger ahead. So there you go. Well, so that, that's the dab. We're off to a great start with some home cooking.

Yeah, we're doing great. More ways than one. Yeah. In every sense of the word, that's a home cook start. The main course, are we staying at home for the main course or is this somewhere else? My wife does that. She's a maniac. Like she finds all this real, all these really rad recipes and stuff. And there's a, uh, and this is going to make me sound so bougie. Oh my God. But, uh, there's a, uh, a sweet potato kale kind of, uh, mash that she does. It's almost like a kale hash that, that, that she does with, uh, pico hot sauce and added cilantro, like on top. Um, that she then adds vegan, uh, cheese to, which is fucking righteous too. It's so good. It also is very filling. So you add that to the Penang and I am a, I'm, I'm an explosion waiting to happen.

Like I'm on a, I'm officially on a timer, you know? So I'm like, I could, I could bag both of those and feel comfortable for about 20 minutes. If like, depending on how fast I eat it or how hungry I am. So yeah. So we'll go with that. But we're letting you, we're letting you offload the Penang and then it's the mash. Yeah. See, so I, so I, you know, I've, I've relieved some of the shelf, you know, you got the shit shelf that sits here and just waits its turn, right? Like that's gone and we've got that. So now I'm just reloaded with some sweet potato. There's probably a lot of starch going on here, which is, uh, I mean, that's fine, but you know, I'm, I'm gonna paper it tomorrow when I'm exercising. Let's put it that way. Sure. Well, it's the kale and the hot sauce

that concerns me. I mean, you know, you said, you said that you've come back from your house, you've locked up your house. I would say you needn't have bothered locking the front door. Yeah. Yeah. The more I think about it, the more I've added to my having to go back. Now I have to fish the keys back out again. Now see, this is where I, this is where a code pad would come in handy, right? This day, and I'm in instead of trying to, you know, briskly hold my keys out of my pocket. And depending on the pants I've worn, that can add, that's a whole other issue, you know? I would say the main thing that will come in handy is just using the bathroom in the restaurant. God, you're going to make me break that, aren't you? Like, I mean, it's,

look, listen, listen, Corey, how's, this is, this is the dream restaurant. How's about this? We can put your bathroom that you know in the restaurant. And it is now, now you're just making me want to stay in the restaurant as much as possible. I mean, my bathroom now, here's the thing. I have three clutch bathrooms in my house, depending on where my family is at any given moment, right? Bathrooms seem themed on the band clutch. Well, yeah, absolutely. You know, there's the blast tyrant, right? There's the elephant, there's the elephant room. And then the pure rock fury for the really, for the financial. And that's the one that is as far away from my family. The ones I love as absolutely possible. Neil is going to fucking kill me when

he hears this, dude. Jesus Christ. I will tell you what, because it'll be, it's too cool to say this, but I guarantee that riff there was his favorite moment on this podcast that he's ever Yeah, to be fair, to be fair, Corey, two of my favorite bands of all time have slipped on clutch. So to riff with you about clutch is a thing that I never thought I'd achieve. And about shit. Well, and I mean, it's three great tastes. I mean, well, wait a minute, that's not, that's not right. Hold on a second. Okay, two, two great tastes. We're trying to put together a slipknot clutch tour, which we're still trying to work on to try and fight because it just would be so fucking rad, you know, like, I know it's, it's two different, two different

vibes, but they're just one of the best live bands ever, man. I mean, and their songs are just so fucking ridiculous. And Neil, he's probably one of my favorite modern singers, you know, he just can sing anything. And now you've named all your bathrooms after his band, so I'm sure he's going to. Yeah, man. I'm sure he's probably going to email me and be like, dude, fuck, man, you've got an elephant room bathroom, like, well, not, not that you know. I mean, so so far, this is quite quite the dicey meal. But yeah, there's an edge. You've now got your own bathroom in the restaurant, which is awesome. And to be fair, I'm surprised that no guest has implemented that so far. Yeah. It's taken quite a long time for that to happen. And I

think for all of us, even if we like using public bathrooms, which I've never met anyone who does, we'd all rather have our own bathroom. Was it the best? Very true. No one else can use it as well. It's not like there's other customers who can go in there and use your bathroom. Right. Right. It's almost like the room of requirements, you know, from fucking Harry Potter, like it just, I, you know, I tap the wall, my bathroom opens up and nobody else is allowed to use the son of a bitch. Yeah. The blue play goes to use it. It's his bathroom. Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. If you say it's like, because I know nobody's going to change the toilet paper either. Like I'm always the one who's changing the role now far. No, I'm probably the one who uses the majority of it. Yeah. I was

going to say, it sounds like you're the one who's getting through it. Yeah. I mean, look, this is the only way I'll ever be considered a regular guy. That's a good joke. Come on. You don't need to do a sarcastic badum too. That was solid stuff. I'd love it if that was just sorry about that, but was this you doing one line? Didn't see it go in this direction. You know, I punish my family all the time with my stupid sense of humor. And I will say to be fair, my wife thinks I'm very funny. So I scored. Finally, a woman who thinks I'm funny. If you were, you were saying earlier about having a code instead of a key. What code would you choose? Now, I'm trying now to link it to the numbers

of the slipknot band members and the numbers that you have on your boiler students. I'm trying to think of a code you would use and how you would remember it if you were to correlate it with the members of slipknot. It is a convoluted question. You started it and you're still not at the end of it, but you're now commenting on the quality of the question, even though it's not finished. Yeah. The question is not finished. I'm not sure what the question is. I will never have another guest where this will come up. It's the sign of a good question where you're already questioning the vitality. I don't know where this is going to go, but you know it would be good. I made it a ridiculously long fucking code, right? But then I use our numbers, but I use the sequence

from the beginning of the heretic anthem. So I add two extra sixes in there and people always skip this. I bet you it's slipknot eight, seven, six, five, four, three, two, one, zero. Why isn't this working? It's like, well, because you're missing two sixes. So eight, seven, six, six, six, five, four, three, two, one, zero, right? Then only true fans can break into your house. That's right. And that's exactly what I want. It's true fans. You keep your fucking commonality out of here. I want real, real fans who know some shit. And then that's not stolen goods for them. That's memorabilia. And that's legal. Yeah. Well, is that legal? No, no, no, it's fine. If anyone comes and steals something off you and they like your band, then that's legal, I think. Well,

you know, they're not going to resell it quickly. Yes. You know, they'll put it in their shrine with like all the stolen hair from your hairbrushes and shit. Has anyone ever stolen your hair, Corey? Be honest. Well, not that I know of, because I have a tendency to chop my hair off a lot. So I don't know. But I will say, I mean, I've had some stalkers over the years who have, they've sent me some, some weird shit, let's just say, just a lot of weird, you know, letters signed in blood. Oh, so intense. I tell you what, dude. Okay. So the first, the first real weird letter I ever got was back in 99. And there was a P.O. box that we were using for a while that we then had to get rid of because just so much shit was fucking coming

into it. We had to forward everything to our management. But before we did that, we would go down and we would finally get, was getting to the point that there was just like bags and bags and bags of that. And they would give me these fucking stacks of crazy fan letters. So I would read them and, and, you know, every once in a while I'd reply and stuff. But there was one that started out as from a lady and she was telling me about how her husband were quite big fans, right? And now the first page, you know, this is all on like notebook paper and handwritten, very nice, very whatever. And she's like, you know, I'm a huge fan of blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I was like, oh, this is very sweet. And I flip it over, dude. And it turns into a full on like,

I want you to keep me in a cage. And I mean, for real, it went from zero to what the fuck, like that. I just was like, it was interesting. I still have it somewhere. In the whole buildup to you talking about that letter, I could see James was really annoyed when it turned out to be from a lady because he really wanted to make the joke that I'd written it. James. Yeah. Well, there was two things I was getting ready for. One was that I wanted to make the joke that Ed had written it, absolutely 100%. And I'm still not rolling that out by the way. Yeah. Classic throwing you off the scent Ed Gable, making out he's a lady in the letter. But also, in preparation for possible callbacks later on in the episode, because I'm not, I don't

know about clutch as much as Ed does. So I thought I'll Google the clutch albums so I know. And I tell you what, there is not a single album by clutch, which wouldn't be a funny name for a toilet. Oh, I've just remembered Earth Rocker. Every single one. And the Earth Rocker, psychic warfare, book of bad decisions, that really makes me laugh. Transnational Speedway. Oh, Jesus Christ. From Beale Street to Oblivion. Yes. Strange Cousins from the West. I don't know why that's my favourite. Strange Cousins from the West really makes me laugh. It works, it works, though. Jam Room. Oh, Jam Room. Jam Room. It's really good. Hang on. Isn't it Slow Hold to China? Isn't that Rarity's album? I think so.

We get to your side dish, Corey, because otherwise we'll get stuck in that room. Oh, we're still eating, are we? Yeah, apologies. Shit. All right. No, my bad. My bad. All right. Side dish. It's kind of lame these days. It's always a veggie, you know? So maybe like a sauteed spinach, something like that, you know, with light salt, olive oil, a little garlic, and just kind of just don't fry it, because then it just turns into, fucking might as well be eating a racer from a pencil. But, you know, just that proper, just enough heat to kind of, you know, soften everything up and get it ready to go. Healthy addition to the meal. Look, man, at my age, and as weird as I get on stage,

I have to fucking eat healthy, dude. I can't eat the way I used to anymore, dude. It just kicks the shit out of me. When you started out, were you eating awfully and still doing that level of shit? Oh, yeah. Dude, let me tell you something. One of the most horrendous nights of my life, and this is back when I was still drinking, I was in Paris, by myself, mind you, walking around Paris, and I stumbled on this Irish pub in Paris, which is, you know, whatever. But I proceeded to drink about six, seven car bombs, which, you know, is the Jameson and Bailey's dropped into Guinness, and you shoot it all down, kind of like a Manhattan, but a lot more deadly, you know? So I drink about seven of those by myself. Now I'm really fucking fit, Shay. So then you,

obviously, you get the after pub munchies, and there was right around the corner a place where you could get a giant fucking hot dog with chips right on top of it, right? A little chilly, and I mean, dude, I ate two of those. Now, mind you, at the time I was over 200 pounds, okay? So I was like a professional, like I could eat and eat and eat, and then just hate myself all day and the next day. Was that like in the early days of Slipknot? I was, yeah, I was too. Really? Yeah, I was really heavy, because that was when my alcoholism was really at its worst. I once passed out face first in a plate of Swedish meatballs. I just never had that memory of you being like a bigger guy, but I guess the boiler suits are very slimming, right?

Well, they try to be. You only pack so much of yourself in there, and we would wear them big. So we would have them made a little bigger to kind of hide the moistening in the middle, as you would. And the mask was on. It wasn't really until Stone Sour that people really got to look at me, and even then it was like, oh God, it was pretty bad, you know? Because I used to be a lot bigger than I am now, which means I finally get to apologize to you, Corey, because I came to a Slipknot signing in the year 2000 at the Virgin Megastore on Oxford Street. And when you guys came out, I was looking around the shop and you were walking out and I just ran towards you at the fastest I could manage at that time, which wasn't very fast. And it's throwing myself on top of you,

and I heard you from under the mask go, oh, fuck. So I hope I didn't do any serious damage. So it was you who wrote the letter. Yeah, that was me. Yeah, yeah. Remember when he was on your back at the Virgin Megastore going, put me in a cage? Put me in a cage, Corey! Do you remember me, Corey, at Redding Festival 2000? And I was the one who, during the song where you got everyone to sit down on the floor, I was about a mile back. I was right next to the guy who was holding the rage against the machine flag and refusing to sit down. Do you remember me? Well, now that you say it, you know what's fucked up about Leeds and Redding at that time was I was out in the audience when I started getting bottled. You remember that? That means Celeste.

Yeah. Oh my God, dude. I was out. I was out there. I was hanging out with some friends of mine. And I was like, who are these people? And they were trying to explain it to me. And then, dude, it was like, the fucking seas opened. And it just like came out of nowhere. I was like, oh, shit. But they, I mean, to their credit, man, they stood there and they took it. Because I mean, that would they only did like two or three songs, but they're like, fuck it, we're going to go for it. And then I went backstage and dude, they were bawling. They were bawling their eyes out. I was like, I was like, hey, you did something that a lot of people wouldn't have done. You stayed in there. So hold your head high. And I don't know if they fucking cared what I said, but I mean,

they did it. You know, I was 15 at the time and in the audience and fully believed at the time they deserved the bottling now as an adult. I did not. Well, you know, I mean, you told me as a 15 year old, you know, who's consoling them backstage right now? Come on, you tell you that. I'd be like, what the fuck? That was the same. I was the same night that guns and roses went on late and made us, they had security holding us back. We couldn't get to our buses. And finally, I just shoved my fucking way. I was like, my house is right there. You can kiss my ass. I'm fucking going to my bus. Talking of bottling at Redding. Yes. And now we get on to your favorite drink. Oh, yes. Yes, yes, yes. It's got to be coffee. I don't know if you can tell. I'm such a fucking

an even guy. Corey, just before you go into why, I'm so worried about your bowels during this whole meal. What is going on, man? You've absolutely annihilated yourself and now you're having a cup of coffee. People do indeed equal shit. It would appear. Listen, you try setting up a bomb without lighting the fucking fuse. Okay. The bombs already gone off. Yeah. The bomb has gone off twice now already. You're lighting the fuse on a wreckage. Boob lays in tears. He's covering his face right now. Jesus Christ. This is going to go horribly wrong. Look, it's not a good knife for me unless I've shit six times. Just letting you know. Good. It's zen laxative. All things must pass. Let's just go, right? No. I mean, for real, man. Full disclosure, I can't drink coffee past a certain

time now at my age because then I'll just be laying in fucking bed like a vampire in a day pass. Just spinning and I can't just can't get my shit together. But yeah, I mean, after dinner, I'll have like a latte or whatever an espresso just to kind of get the party started. Coffee is just, it's the last thing I have. I don't smoke anymore. I don't drink. I don't do drugs. Can't do orgies. What else do I have guys? I mean, all I have is coffee now. So it's my go to. That's my, I guess that would be my favorite drink. You got a favorite type? Yeah. Just black coffee or? Yeah. Yeah. It has to be like a dark roast, which dark roast doesn't have a lot of caffeine to it, which is good, but I need the flavor of it. Because for some reason, my brain, it reminds me

of whiskey. So it's, it's almost like kind of dipping into that. And I don't drink soda, you know, the only time I really drank soda is when I was drinking. And once I quit drinking, I realized it's like, oh, you're really fucking drink soda. So I don't really go for sugary shit like that. And I don't put anything in my coffee. So like a dark roast, espresso, just, you know, kind of knock it back. When I drink tea, I add cream and a little sugar to it just to, you know, kind of give it that little extra. But with coffee, yeah, it's just, it's just the devil's balsak basically, you know, just lovely. Do you have like a local coffee shop that you frequent or a specific bean? Yeah, yeah. It's a, it's a, it's a, I mean, it's a pretty niche coffee

shop. I doubt you guys have heard of it. It's called Starbucks. Yeah. It's like, look, I mean, and it's, and that's with, you know, no apostrophe, it's just Starbucks. It doesn't belong to a person named Starbucks, you know, from like Battlestar Galactica. But yeah, dude, I mean, it's, I, for me, it's like asking, you know, what's your favorite beer? It's like whatever you've got. So we arrived now at your dessert, which is my favorite course. I'm always excited about the dessert. Ed's a starter boy. I enjoyed starters, starters more. Fair enough. Fair enough. Now we have to keep in mind, I am a loaded weapon at this point. I am quite, quite ready for war, as it were. I am going to go for something

explosive, delicious. I'm going to go for a chocolate lava cake with a, with a scoop of caramel ice cream on the side. Nothing too, you know, ostentatious, nothing, you know, trying to be a little full of itself. However, the co-mingling of the cake and the explosion and the ice cream is enough to make me orgasm. And I'll tell you why, because the richness of it is just, as you can tell, desserts my favorite fucking meal as well. So it's like, I've done all the fucking, you know, being good, being good, being good. Fuck you, Satan. Here we go. This is, you know, so sugar is my downfall. Yeah. So yeah, I mean, that to me is probably my favorite dessert is a chocolate, like a little personal chocolate lava cake and a scoop of ice cream just going to

take the edge off of it. It makes total sense, because at this stage of the meal, you are a chocolate lava cake. This is very true. There's, I have a, all the flavors in the middle. I'm a, I'm a pork on the bottom yogurt, right? I mean, that's probably not a good, probably not a good thing. Also, we, me and Ed and the great Benito, our producer earlier this year, took a journey to America and did a lot of podcast episodes and chocolate lava cake was the most popular dessert choice of the American episodes. It's always, it's a big popular, popular American choice, but no one's added the caramel ice cream. I don't think I've ever had it in Europe, to be honest. Yeah. You know, the great thing about Europe is you have a, well, not to include you guys in

Europe. I know it's a separate thing, but you know, in my Americanized brain, it's all that kind of same region. I love it. I want it. Please, please include us in Europe. I love being in Europe. Please call us European. I love to be associated with culture and a team. I love all of that. Yeah. Trust me, I would too. Sadly, I don't, you know, but I guess the, the one that the dessert I get over there is like, what, like a custard? Like a, is, now is, is flan like a custard or is that like a different type of thing? That's kind of like that, isn't it? A custard tart is a thing as well, right? Yeah. Yeah. That's okay. That's more of the point. Yeah. So that's what we're thinking of. Yeah. Which I, fuck, I'll eat six of those, dude. Oh, your shit. Like I'll just fucking,

just neck the shit out of it and just get out of there, you know? But yeah, that's good. It's good stuff. Your cookies are great too. Your biscuits, I'm into that. But I always think the, I think the grass is greener with stuff like that because I always look at, whenever I go to America, I'm like, I have to go to Trader Joe's straight away. I have to go to a supermarket straight away. Right. Right. As many snacks as possible. I'm like, we don't have stuff like that at home. Right. And every American I meet are like, your, your cookies are amazing. All your chocolate's amazing. But no, we just, that's what we can't have. Exactly. You know, I mean, I mean, a pretty big angle file, to be honest. And like, I love pretty much everything from

your island, except the fucking, the walkers ketchup crisps can fuck, can fuck right off. I'll be honest. Those things, those, if the machine that made those just exploded and killed several people, I would still applaud. I would still be fucking happy, like good riddance to bad, rubbish, fuck off. Like so disgusting. It's one of the worst things I've ever had in my mouth. And I've been to Holland. Okay. I'm just letting you know. That's some shit. I love the image of you telling a walkers ketchup crisps machine to fuck off. Fuck off. You motherfucker. Fuck off. What happened? Was there a specific event that made? Yeah, I put one in my mouth. Disgusting. Ketchup flavored really, really. And you give us shit. Fuck those things. Good

night. I'll eat, listen, I'll eat my weight in paprika ones. I love bacon flavored ones. Ketchup. Fuck. Listen, I hate the salt and vinegar ones. Now, and I know that's like a fucking travesty or whatever, but I'm not a huge fan of vinegar. Those fucking ketchup ones, I would, if I had the choice between the two, I would eat all the salt and vinegar ones. And I would wish the ketchup ones on my worst enemies for the rest of their lives, because that is a punishment. Eating those fucking things is a punishment. Next time you're over here on tour, I want you to stop the whole gig and just do that rant exactly as you do. Just do that rant. Yeah. Everyone get down on the floor right now. Everyone get down on the floor. And when I say

fuck walkers tomato ketchup crisps, you jump the fuck up. Corey, I'm going to read your order back to you now and see how you feel about it. Here we go. You would like, oh, you want the sparkling cherry, uh, boobly water served by Michael Boobley. So yeah, umpunical bread with olive oil and Boobley's buttery voice as the butter. Your starter, you want your wife's Penang curry with tofu, bell peppers, broccoli, not too much cabbage and some Jasmine rice. Right. Main course, wife's sweet potato and kale hash with pico hot sauce, cilantro and vegan cheese. Side dish, saute spinach with salt, olive oil and garlic. Drink a dark roast black coffee espresso. Just knock it back from anywhere.

Dessert, chocolate lava cake with a scoop of caramel ice cream. How do you feel? Hungry now, man. Jesus Christ. I know what I'm having later. Shit. That's a pretty decent menu, I'd say. That's sounding really good. Not bad, right? Yeah. That's a good menu. And all the... It's very specific too, man. Like it's fucking dialed in. All the toilet chat's very appropriate because the last song on your solo album is called European Tour Bathroom Song. Yeah, exactly. You know where that came from. Have you guys ever been on a European tour bus? I've been on Raging Speedhorns Tour Bus. Oh, that's it.

If you see those guys, tell them I said hi. I love those guys. I'm good friends of those guys, man. We toured with them about 15 years ago and they were fucking, dude, they were nuts. They were properly fucked up, like in a good way, like really good. On every European tour bus, in the bathroom, there's a sign right next to the fucking toilet that reads, and I quote, please do not put paper in toilet. Please use the bin provided, right? Pretty stationary, pretty standard J11 instructions for people. So you find yourself flying down the road at like midnight, maybe you don't have the best bus driver, you know what I'm saying? Like, so you're holding on for dear life, trying to take a piss, you've got your arm braced,

trying not to get it on your trousers. And you find yourself kind of staring at this sign and kind of focused on it and reading it. And you find yourself, you have a weird brain like me spelling the words and then developing a rhythm to spelling the words. So you start going, P-L-E-A-S-C-D-O-N-O-T-P-U-T-P-A-P-E-R-I-N-T. And then if you're really fucked up, you take that a step further and you start writing hardcore music to it. And then you go, someday I'm going to record that. And someday turned into three months ago. It's like it's come full circle. I love it. Yeah. We're all here. There it is. Oh, so I think before we go, I should give a little shout out to the 1992 clutch EP, Passive Restraints. Oh, perfect. Thank you very much for coming, Corey. Oh, dude, this is an absolute pleasure, guys.

Thank you very much. And there we have it. That was the off-menu menu of Corey Taylor, James. What a feast for the mouth and the butt. What a feast. I mean, very toilet-based this week, which I am into. Do you know what? I think anyone going into the off-menu Corey Taylor episode, surely that's what they came for. I mean, it was a great moment for me when that started happening. I was like, talking about shitting is probably up there with my favourite hobbies. Sure. And talking about shitting with Corey Taylor. I'm living on Cloud9 over here. Then clutch got involved. I mean, I was worried I was going to have to just like, you know, lead the whole episode while you rotate in the air in a state of euphoria. Yeah, the listener wouldn't be able to see that,

because we don't put the videos out or anything. But I was three feet off the floor with my hands out of the side going all the way around like a little happy cartoon boy. He was. It was very distracted, but Corey took it in his stride and carried on telling us all the wonderful food that he wanted on his menu, which did not include, thankfully, the secret ingredient, maggots. No, maggots from Corey. Thank you very much, Corey. But if we'd said you're not allowed to talk about shitting, then that would have been a disaster. Yeah, then we would have been in big trouble. So that was a very exciting episode for me. And for you, James, I mean, it turns out you remember way more about Slipknot than you thought you did. I saw a Slipknot twice when I was 15.

And 15 and 16, I think I saw him. And I listened to that debut album so, so, so, so much. I had a Slipknot shirt. So who was I kidding? Of course, I was going to jump both, both feet, just jump in there and get in the old Slipknot fan pool once again. And who knew that you'd come out of this episode as a messenger to send a message from Corey Taylor to the band Raging Speedhorn? Yes. Oh, if you're listening, Speedhorn, I did it. No, you may, huh? That's not, you need to find them. You need to track them down. You don't, you don't, you can't, you can't pass the message on now. You need to go and say hello to them if you see them. Do you think you'll see them at any point? Hello, Corey Taylor says, what's up? Yeah. And then obviously you're going to have to take

that message back. Yep. See what they say back to him. Yeah. I don't mind that if that's what I do for like, you know, we've all got in these lockdown times, in these quarantine times, these post-COVID times, we've all got a manoeuvre. We've got to find new jobs. If my new job is to just be a messenger between metal bands, so be it. I think you'd be very good actually, James. You'd be very good at that. You'd have to wear little wings, of course, and little horns. Yeah. What are the wings for? Messenger. And the horns are for being the devil. Metal. So that's very confusing. So I'm an angel and a devil at the same time. Aren't we all, what a lovely way to end the podcast. You should go and get Corey Taylor's new solo album, CMFT. That is out on October the second.

We were very nicely sent an advance copy. Yes. And I've been, I've been pumping it. I've been, I've been whacking and on loud, and I'm enjoying myself. He's having such a lot of fun on that album. He's proper whaling. There's some proper classic rock sounding stuff, some proper like, almost country sounding stuff. It's so much fun. And he doesn't drink, but he's written some wicked drinking songs. Yeah, man. If you're having a night in with a flagon of ale, you want to put on CMFT and swill that ale from side to side. Well done, James. You can all imagine James doing that at home now. Do you ever swill your ale side to side? I used to. These days, I'm far too busy delivering messages between two of them, age against the machine.

That is the end of this episode. We will be back again soon in the Dream Restaurant. Sorry, James. May not. May not. Yes. They wanted me to tell you, they won't do what you tell them. Okay, fair enough. I'll go back and let them know. That's my impression of delivering a message to Maynot. James Keenan, the singer of Tall from Major to the Machine. I enjoyed that. I enjoyed that. What was Maynot said back to age against the machine? Well, I'm trying to think of a Tall lyric, even though I'm very much into Tall, and I love their album, Lateralis, but I'm trying to think of any lyrics from that album. And I can't think of any none that specifically... None that work in this context. Where the grudge

like a crown doesn't fit. I'm glad that we got to segue. We got a Tall riff in an episode. It's taken many episodes for us to get this in there. I mean, you say that. Everyone's either turned off all Benito's edited this bit out. Yeah, it's not out of the question that this will go out in the edit, but then it is at the end. So it's a nice little Easter egg for any of the metal fans who stuck around my car. And then there might be people screaming at the podcast now being like, why don't you use this lyric? Come on, guys. Yeah. Yeah. When you talk about the Tall song, thanks very much for your message. I hope you're okay. Yeah, exactly. Best wishes. What are you doing that? I hope you're doing okay during this post-COVID times. That song.

Those guys were crazy Nostradamus, right? Yeah, absolutely. But thank you very much for listening. We will see you again sometime soon. Goodbye. Hello, it's me, Amy Gladhill. You might remember me from the best ever episode of Off Menu, where I spoke to my mum and asked her about seaweed on mashed potato and our relationship's never been the same since. And I am joined by me, Ian Smith. I would probably go bread. I'm not going to spoil it in case. Get him on James and Ed, but we're here sneaking in to your podcast experience to tell you about a new podcast that we're doing. It's called Northern News. It's about all the news stories that we've missed out from the north because, look, we're two Northerners,

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