Off The Telly - A pink G&T and a doughnut of your own face

Episode Date: October 2, 2024

Natalie Cassidy and Joanna Page chat about all things on and off the telly. This week emotions are running high as filming for Gavin and Stacey is nearly at an end, plus Jo explains why she got to eat a doughnut with her own face on it. Nat also shares what she's been up to this week, including having to do a 'sweat test'. We also find out how much fun Jo had watching Strictly live in the studio, and they have a good old natter about Dating Naked UK (Paramount Plus), All Creatures Great and Small (Channel 5) and The White Lotus (NOW).What they can’t stop watching, what they definitely aren’t going to bother with, new releases and comforting classics – TV is timeless and no telly is out of bounds. As well as having a natter about what’s on TV, they share backstage goss from the world of telly, whilst also cracking up about the more humbling moments in their lives. Self-confessed TV addicts and stars of two of the biggest shows on our screens, EastEnders and Gavin and Stacey, Natalie and Joanna are the perfect companions to see what’s occurring on and off the telly. Timecodes for shows discussed this week are:9:50 - Dating Naked 23:46 - All Creatures Great and Small 27:29 - The White LotusGet in touch by sending us a message or voice note via WhatsApp to 03306 784704.Hosts: Natalie Cassidy and Joanna Page Producer: Georgia Keating Executive Producer: Richard Morris Commissioning Editor: Rhian Roberts Production Co-ordinator: Becky Carewe-Jeffries Sounds Editor: Arlie Adlington Music by MCassoOff The Telly is a BBC Studios Audio Production for BBC Sounds.

BBC Sounds, music, radio, podcasts. Hello and welcome to Off The Telly from BBC Sounds. I'm Natalie Cassidy. And I'm Joanna Page. And this is the podcast where we have a catch-up about our lives plus what we've been watching on the telly. Now, there is going to be some swearing and there might be some spoilers. We're doing this remotely this week

because you are still down in Wales, aren't you? I'm in my last week now. It's the very last week. Well, you know, yeah. So when I go into like next week now, it's going to be our very last week, which I can't believe. I think we've been down here

for about five or six weeks filming. And I can't believe we started rehearsals at the end of August and it was still sunny. I was wearing like a summer dress. It was really warm. And now I've brought my boots down to the hotel. I've got a winter's coat. It's pouring with rain all the time.

And I can't believe that after next week, that's going to be it. That's the lot. I'm never, ever going to work with these people in these circumstances ever, ever, ever again. I'm going to have to get through the last week without crying. I was crying again last night. We were just reminiscing and I just started crying again. I'm not surprised at all because it's such a big thing, isn't it? And now to think that you've only got a week left of it.

It's, yeah, even I feel emotional and I'm not in it oh god I mean it's just well it's just going to be it's going to be really hard I'm not very good as well I get so sentimental I wondered if you'd seen on Instagram this week there's been a lot flying around about how to watch the whole of Gavin and Stacey in the lead up to Christmas Day oh and what's the advice? How do people want to do it? Well, it's brilliant. It's absolutely brilliant. It's a whole diary.

There's lots of them flying about, not just one. So there's a whole diary of the dates and times that you could watch things in order to get all the way through. I think you watch Christmas 2008 or whatever on Christmas Eve and then you're straight bang into the one that's live. And it really made me, you know, it's a big thing, Jo, honestly. There's a lot of people doing this. They're really, really looking forward to it.

Last week, Bo again kept going, play Gavin and Stacey, play Gavin and Stacey. And she likes on a loop to play Run by Stephen Fretwell, which is like the theme tune. And so she wants that played. And then she started saying to people, my mummy plays Gavin in Gavin and Stacey. So apparently I'm Gavin. I'm pretty good with the Essex accent.

Don't you just love kids? I know, I know. So, yeah, I'm feeling quite emotional, very sentimental. I'm going to be a ruddy wreck next week. And then when we get to the wrap party, well, I just hope I get through it without crying. I'm going to have a couple of drinks, a bit of a dance, a lovely chat with all my fab friends. And then I'll head on home. Next day, school run.

That's it. School run. Yeah. I want boob. We'll be back every day. I'm like you this week because I've been away. I've been out and about and all around the country. Been in Southampton.

Yeah, just been everywhere. And I feel a bit the same. Mark's been super dad this week and has had everything under control along with some childcare and what have you. But yeah, I feel very ready to be at home. It really makes me realise what a home bird I am. Really miss home when I'm away.

But I've been doing some funny things this week, Jo. What have you been doing? What have you been testing? Tell me everything. So I've been to a factory, proper Greg Wallace style, in a hairnet and an overcoat. And then I thought, this is really good. And they said, well, now we're going to go down to Southampton Hospital and we're going to do a sweat test. And I thought, well, what does this entail? So they had me on a bike, an exercise bike, in a room that was 32 degrees. Oh, my God.

Yeah, and I had to really go for it for about 15 to 20 minutes on this bike to get as much sweat as possible. Then they applied pads to my armpits, which soaked up the sweat. And then they weighed them to see how much sweat came out of each armpit. Oh, my God. Then they brought in three people and then they did a sniff test.

So I was walking about with my armpit up and there were three people sniffing my armpit. I said, I'll tell you something, Amanda Holden wouldn't put up with this shit. I know, I know. I mean, people might pay for that, you know. I mean, it's a little bit kinky really, isn't it? Do you think so? I don't think so, Jo. Well, I don't personally find it kinky.

I mean, it wouldn't turn me on going into a room of 32 degrees and sniffing your armpit. But I'm sure to God there are some people in the world that would really get a kick out of that. Yeah, possibly. Yeah. I mean, yeah. Yeah, I know what you mean. There's a lot that goes on in the world. Oh, my God. And I can't believe, right, that I've not even said this to you because we've had so much to talk about. Oh, when I went to see Strictly, Jamie came straight up to me afterwards. Oh, my God. He gave me a big big hug he said that he always listened to our podcast and I was just like

oh I gotta say he's absolutely gorgeous he is such a lovely fella he's got this really lovely aura radiating from him he is so so lovely and do you know what's really really weird don't you think it's weird but I believe I think I'm right in saying from Jamie, Jamie and Wynne have really hit it off.

Yeah, big buddies. And they're like really close. Yeah. So isn't that funny? It's like me and you and them two. Yes. Isn't that nice? Because, yeah, Jamie said that him and Wynne have really bonded

and that they're really, really good friends with each other. He was so lovely. And do you know, right, when I was watching the pair of them, I thought they were both cracking. They were brilliant. Oh, so I saw your post on Instagram of you already with James in his velvet jacket and you look gorgeous in your jumpsuit. Was it a jumpsuit in the end or a dress?

I can't remember now. It was a dress. It was a dress and James had his velvet jacket on and he was bloody boiling. Oh, I bet he was. But I tell you what, did you have a brilliant time? How was it? Did you love it?

It was so much fun. I mean, honestly, I was so, so excited. We got there and then we went in and they put you in like this holding room type thing first. And so you can have a little drink and everything. But it's brilliant because you get to see all of the dancers, friends and family. I met Sam Thompson.

I was very excited about seeing Pete Wex. And then you go in and it's so much smaller in there than you imagine it's going to be. And but it's just so surreal. Couldn't get over it. I mean, James was quite freaked out at first because you're like, oh, my God, this is real Saturday night telly. And we're sitting in the audience. You just feel, oh, my God, I am so lucky to have got in here and to be sitting in the audience you just feel oh my god i am so lucky to have got in here and to be sitting in the audience it was so much fun so much fun oh good oh joe i think we've

got a voice note actually about what you were saying about strictly last week have a listen to this hello ladies this is valerie i'm a community midwife and I have quite a long drive home. I'm just driving home now. And Joe, you almost made me crash my car. It was so funny. I'm listening to the episode where you're talking about having your night out to Strictly. And you told Nat that you would give her a signal to indicate that you're having a good time. Now, you said you were going to fiddle with your earring.

But as a community midwife who gets given many, many pots of wee during the day, what I heard in your Welsh accent was, I'm going to fiddle with my earring. You're going to fiddle with my urine. You're going to fiddle with your urine. I'm so sorry. I listened to it again and I can't unhear it. I don't think I did even fiddle with my urine in the end because I was so in awe and so over the top excited about being in the studio that all of that just sort of went out the window.

Well, yeah, I did look out for it. Obviously, I was enjoying the show, but I was sort of focused every time they went to you to see if you were going to fiddle with your earring, and you didn't. And I thought, oh, well, that's fair enough then, but I know she's having a good time because she's engrossed in it.

I can't wait for tonight. I'm a bit stressed because obviously we're recording this on Saturday morning because we're so busy. I'm out tonight, which has really pissed me off because I love watching it. Put it on record. I'm going to have to watch it when I get in.

Yeah. Well, I'm going to be there. I'm going to be in the hotel. I'm going to get myself a little bottle of wine and some food and I'm going to catch myself up in bed and I'm going to put the telly on and I'm going to be cheering on Wynne and Jamie.

Come on, boys. Come on, boys. Come on, boys. Come on, boys. I thought Wynne was fantastic. And when we finish being so busy and Wynne's finished this Strictly journey, I think the four of us should go out and have a bit of dinner. We should go on a double date. We should go out.

Definitely. We should have some cocktails and we should have some food and we should celebrate how amazing the pair of them are and how amazing we are too. Yeah. No, I'm with you. I am with you. I can't wait to talk about The White Lotus with you, Jo,

because you were raving about it last week. We're also going to be chatting about All Creatures Great and Small, which a lovely listener recommended last week, plus a show which I cannot believe has even been made, Dating Naked UK. Oh, yeah.

Can we just have a chat, please, about Ryland's new naked dating show? Right. I've got to say, right, I put it on. It's on Paramount Plus, right? And I put on the first episode and it done take me a lot, right?

Nothing shocks me, right? Nothing really take me a lot right nothing shocks me right nothing really shocks me these days this shocked me it's all it's basically like Love Island but everybody is stark bollock naked nothing on whatsoever it's just what we need yes just what you need if love if Love Island wasn't enough if Love Island wasn't enough now we've got to watch everybody naked being like Love Island I have never seen well first of all

it follows the capitalist right to go about five girls five boys I can't remember how many it is specifically but it's about that they go into

this lovely villa and they go in and basically they've got to try and form connections and they've got to you know to see who they fancy

and just form a connection together but they're doing it all completely naked well it threw me in the beginning when they all started walking in because as they're walking up you know, to see who they fancy and just form a connection together. But they're doing it all completely naked. Well, it threw me in the beginning when they all started walking in, because as they're walking up, you know, the little wooden deck to get into the place, they're all like basically taking their bra and their pants.

I was astounded. Everyone wears a thong for starters. Everyone's in thongs these days. And so they take off all their clothes and then they go in and then they pull down their pants. I've never seen so many bums wobble in, like, because the camera's following them as they're walking in. And I suddenly thought, God, bums are really funny, aren't they? They are funny. And what's astounding is that nothing is blurred out.

So you've got, I've never seen so many flying and dangling willies in my life. No, I've never seen so many balls and tits. I've never seen anything like it. And I have to say to you, no, I tell you what, I just go, oh, I can't help it. I just go, I don't really, this really isn't the sort of thing

that I want to watch, right? Now, I love Ryland. I think he's fantastic on everything he does. It suits him down to the ground, his humour, the way he is. I think he's brilliant at presenting it. I just did a show with him, actually, Pop Top Ten. He's got a new podcast out with Scott Mills,

another lovely guy who I know, obviously, and been on his show. So I've done their podcast. It's brilliant. It's all about music and you put things in order, all the things. Anyway, have a listen to it. It's really, really good. It's on BBC Sounds as well. But Ryland is fantastic and he holds himself. But I just cannot get over the fact that there are human

beings who want to participate in a show where they're naked. They've not been paid to go on and they have mums and dads and grandparents at home. Do you think the families watch it? That's what I can't get over. Yes, I do think they do, right? Because when the first episode started and then they have like a diary room type thing with like a huge chair that they go in, you know, and like in Big Brother or like in Love Island

that they sit in and then they talk about, oh my God, I really fancied Mike and well, I feel I've got a connection. And what made me laugh is that the girls are going in there and everyone is completely naked and you can see everything. And the girls go in and they sit there and they're just sort of chatting. But they're not sitting demurely. They're just sitting like normally. The boys' behavior hasn't changed at all.

And when the boys go and sit on the diary room chair, they sort of slouch back, you know, like that. I know, with the legs open. Legs completely spread. And all you can see is like a massive full focus, willy and balls. And then the willy and balls are like squashed as it looks like the blinking balls are going to burst. I mean, it's like as if you're sitting opposite them on the tube. Saying that, right, the first episode, I was flabbergasted.

Completely and utterly flabbergasted. I'm now on episode, it's either eight or nine. I'm loving it. I'm loving it. Oh you're brilliant. Well you know what? I tell you listen, you know that I'm old fashioned sometimes and you know I do get cross about these things but by the end, I haven't watched any more than episode one, but by the end of episode

one you do forget they're naked. You forget they're naked? You get over the fact they're naked and actually it is quite an interesting experiment because we've all got bodies. We're all very different. I really love the fact there are curvy girls in there. Yeah.

And actually, I thought, yeah, it's actually quite good, quite interesting. It's fascinating because it's kind of like Love Island and Big Brother before they threw all the shit in and all the tasks and all the trying to do this to someone and oh, you've got a task and you've got a trial and you've got a whatever. It's just put them all in and there's none of that.

They've left them all alone and it's just human relationships. And after a while, you don't even notice that they're naked and they kind of don't even notice they're naked. And when it actually does come down to it, the naked bodies don't make any difference at all. Well, maybe they do because they make you feel much more comfortable straight away or emotionally more vulnerable

and you've revealed yourself more. But when it does come down to it, it is all about the connection for them in their heads and their hearts. And I am ruddy well loving it. I don't even notice the willies and bums anymore. And in the beginning, there was Rico and he was from Swansea. He was, wasn't he? Yeah.

It isn't something I'm going to carry on watching just because I feel time is quite precious and it isn't a show that I would sit and sort of watch. I'd rather watch something else. That's not me being rude. That's just me. me well i've gone the other way right because i this week have sacrificed the wholesomeness and the loveliness of all creatures great and small because i had very little time on my hands and i, stuff it, I am going to continue with boobs, bums and balls over cows, donkeys and horses.

Well, listen, before we go on, shall we have a little look at some listeners messages before we go on to all creatures great and small? Yes. So we've had loads and loads of you respond to me saying that my eight year old loves watching Friday night dinner. Here we go. Let's see what Emma's got to say. The programme I wanted to recommend, you've probably heard of it before, but it is literally the Friday night dinner in our house. And that is this country. My 10 year old boy absolutely loves it. Now, it's yeah, it's got a bit of swearing in it and i think some of the more adult themes he doesn't really grasp but i think he just finds it hilarious he loves

kerry's mum when she's screaming at him in fact it's quite embarrassing when we're out if we're at a cafe where he wants to have something with tomato in it because he uses that voice all the time which is a bit embarrassing. And we recently got a new puppy and the first thing he did was switch on this country and said she needs to learn how to say tomato. You see, you see, that's what I'm saying. Like Emma, it does go over their heads, the little ones. Some of the sexual innuendos or references

and things they're talking about, it does go over their head. However, Joni, you know, does say some inappropriate things because of Friday night dinner, but it's fine. She enjoys herself. It doesn't matter. We've also been getting loads of messages about Colin from accounts, which I am now on the second series of, and I absolutely and utterly love. So many of our listeners love it just as much

as we do including Tamsin who we've now got a voice note from just to say um after Jo's strong recommendation for Colin from Accounts I decided to give it a whirl I must admit I wasn't overly inspired by the title of it because I'm actually an accountant in my day job and I thought oh Colin sounds really dull in accounts and I try and be a bit vibrant in my accounts hub but you know that's another story um but what I didn't realize was Colin from accounts is a dog and that was the biggest surprise of it all um so we're a couple of episodes in now. And you know what? It's a really good, lighthearted programme. We're really enjoying it.

So thanks for that recommendation. Because had you not said, I would have given Colin from Accounts a very wide berth. Brilliant. Oh, it's good, isn't it? It is so, so good. I need to finish series two. We've still got a few to watch. Are they doing a third series? I would imagine they will.

I think it's super popular, isn't it? As long as they want to write it, I suppose. You never know, do you? It's a bit like your mob, isn't it? True, true. Yeah. I mean, you keep saying it's the last ever one, the last ever one. Who knows? In ten years' time, they might knock another one out. You never know.

No, I definitely do think it is it is the last ever one really i think so i think so yeah definite fair enough fair enough last night the gorgeous chris gurnan who's our director brought this huge big massive box of donuts on set and the company who made them who were just brilliant said we'll only do all of the donuts if we can do all of the gavin and stacy characters so it was hilarious we had all of our characters faces like not when you've got like this actual face they did like them in cartoon faces and stuff and all of our characters faces on these donuts and then we took them all back to the hotel and just then ate them.

I ate my own face. I was very determined that I was going to eat my face. And I kind of didn't want to because it was very, very rich, but really, really nice. And also, lovely donuts. You've been working all week. When you're on location, you've got to have a treat. You've got to have a treat.

It doesn't really count when you're away. No, it doesn't. It's like being on holiday, isn't it, a bit? Yeah. Pink gin and tonic and a donut of your own face. Fantastic. If I were there, I would have probably liked to eat Pam's face. Really?

Why? Just because I love her. Oh, my Christ, and all that. I would have picked Pam. Really nice. Oh, my Christ, and all that. I would have got, I would have, um... Yeah. Pick Pam. Really nice. Couldn't have eaten more than one face, but, um...

Well, talking of sweet treats... Yes. Talking of sweet treats, it was Eliza's birthday this week. She turned 14. Oh, my gosh. Oh. Yeah, yeah. So we've had a lovely week.

Well, I say that. I've been away. But Tuesday, obviously, I saw her. And I bought her a cake out of Tesco's and it was really terrible cake it was very awful it was really it was just really poor but there was only a couple there was just a family at home so I didn't you know order a big cake or anything but it was quite um just flat as a pancake and a bit sad i put a picture on instagram actually but i love the ones from there normally because they do all sorts of different type ones and they're really

good no this was actually yeah it's not i'm not gonna go at tesco because this was a galaxy cake oh yes but the box was really big oh and then when i got it out it was sort of one layer so it was a bit of a shame but talking of, yeah, it just made me remember that it was Eliza's birthday. And tonight, I'm taking her to a really lovely Italian restaurant and she's got her and seven friends are having a meal,

but on their own. And me, Mark and Joni are going to sit right across. I said, I don't want to see her. I don't want Joni to annoy her. So if you can hide us somewhere and we can have a meal and she's going to sit with her friends

and have a nice meal tonight. So that would be nice. That's so sweet. But isn't it hilarious how the birthdays change? And like how you are still, I mean, it's very lucky that you are still allowed

to go to the birthday, but you're too embarrassing to be allowed to sit on the table. You need to be sat somewhere else. Hidden away. And also I'm only there, you know, I'm only going because I'm away. And also I'm only there, you know, I'm only going because I'm getting her there

and I'm bringing her home. Oh my God. We had that, right, with Eva. That's the only reason. It was Eva and her friend Mabel and we took them to a garden centre the other day, right? And we all sat. It was a lovely little cafe in the garden centre

and me, Bo and the boys and James all sat on a little table at the garden centre and the girls wouldn't sit next to us because we were that disgusting and that embarrassing, just shameful, that they had to go and sit over the other side of the cafe in a little two-seater with their little hot chocolates and their little toasted sandwiches because we just, they could not be seen with us. So how do you feel? Because 14 is like, oh my gosh, she's like boom, into the second one of the teenagers now.

I mean, teenage phase. Yeah, I know. She's really growing up. She's all right. As I say to you, she's just growing up. Yeah, you know, you can have your ups and downs, but there are, she's lovely. She's still very lovely. She just gets a bit tired and a bit and downs, but there are... She's lovely. She's still very lovely.

She just gets a bit tired and a bit grumpy, but don't we all? Yes. True. We do. We all do. I don't like anyone who's rude or whatever, so you've just got to keep them on the straight and narrow.

Keep them in check sometimes when they get a bit out of order and just enjoy every minute, because before you know it, she'll be off and driving, and three years she'll be off and drive driving and three years she'll be driving it's just oh my god you want to see her then that's it she's gone but isn't it nice you know when the birthday parties get they have like less friends so when they're small it's like oh my gosh massive parties you've got to do the pass the parcel it's so stressful balloons for everyone don't even get me started on party bags that in itself yeah it's just awful and then as they get older the circle gets smaller and then you've got like

you know six friends coming out or a sleepover with four of the girls and oh my god it's just so much more manageable i used to find it so incredibly stressful with parties yeah it's too much it's too much um even joni though i've been very lucky because Joanie's birthday falls within the summer holiday and she never really wants a party. We go away as a family or do whatever, but actually I think next year she would like one. She's had to think about it. She said, I'd like a party in the hall, Mummy, I think next year.

I said, that's fair enough. Okay. Yes. But I have got away with it. I've done quite well. I have done quite well. Yes, you have. Right. Yes. But I have got away with it. I've done quite well. I have done quite well. Yes, you have. Right, you were saying about all creatures, great and small.

I popped it on in bed the other night and I thought, oh, I've had a really long, stressful day. I think the day I was in a body fat scanning machine was the day that I, honestly, the stuff they've got me doing, you just have no idea. Very interesting. I can't go into it because I'd had a stressful day. I thought, I just want to put something on that's really easy. And I thought is one of those programmes again. A Call the Midwife, your Sunday evening with the rain, with a little port like we said, Jo, you know, like we always say, pyjamas on, real comfort watch, I have to say. I love Samuel West in most things anyway.

He's really good. And the young man who plays James, James Herriot, Nicholas, he's really good. Everyone in it's really warm. The scenery's really beautiful. And it's just really lovely. And you've got the house with the posh bloke and then you've got the servants. And, you know, it's very old school traditional show but

if you want something to just sit a little bit of comfort nice cup of tea and just sort of takes you back to being little again when you're watching stuff with your mum and dad it is a lovely watch really lovely and that's on channel five but i couldn't believe how many series they've done it's obviously gone so so well well. Well, they've done a lot. Because I still think of it as being quite new because I still remember when, you know, it was revived because it was such a huge thing to, like, revive. Yes.

There's nothing else to say, really. I haven't watched loads of it, but it's definitely something that I'll stick on when I just want to unwind and not think about anything. And I know that people do that with Married at First Sight or Love Island, but for me, I would rather switch on something like that to let my brain relax rather than watch people trying to find love because that's not really my type of thing.

It just makes me think about when I was small and I used to do watch the original one of all creatures great and small with my parents and i just love that it just takes me back to that world of wanting to sort of have my own small holding and have goats and pigs and sheep and and i just love all of the costumes and you know um the main girl has just got like really lovely, thick, dark hair, which I know just is just mental. I just go on about people's hair all the time. But when you grow up and you have quite fine hair, you really do notice these things. And she's just like, everyone's so just lovely and the costumes and just it's so feel good. And I've not seen a load

of it. But when I dipped into it, I just loved it because it takes me back into that whole thing of how I love Midsomer Murders and Agatha Christie and Smapper. Sitting there on a Sunday afternoon, you've got your jigsaw on the table. You've got some bits and nibbles on the table, little glass of sherry. And I've got the kids around me. We've been out for a dog walk in the morning. We've had a roast dinner. So everybody's quite quiet and calm. The fire's on

pop this on and it's just like oh just feel all cutchy and settled and lovely absolutely so i would highly recommend it if you like very easy watches and you love the things that joe just mentioned because it is it's just really quintessentially British TV and it's lovely to watch, really is. So I am really, really interested, right, in what you think of our last show, The White Lotus. It's on now. I've watched both series and I watched them when they first came out and I was completely and utterly obsessed with it.

And I am so excited about the new series coming out. I've been reading as much press as I can about it to see what it's going to be about. Because each series has sort of an overrunning theme through it. And I just love the whole thing. I mean, I'll talk about it in more detail later. But I want to know, which series did you watch? What did you think? How much have you seen?

Go. So I started at series one and I've watched two episodes so far. Now, I think the acting is superb. I really like where it is shot. I loved the fact that you're meeting all these characters on this Hawaiian island. I know that I'm very early on in it. I'm guessing that the wonderful guy who's the receptionist, who's absolutely amazing, I'm guessing he falls off the wagon at some point.

He's got to be falling off the wagon at some point. He's still sober at the moment, but I'm thinking, I bet you're a character when you're off your nut. So I reckon he's going to fall off the wagon. And it's lovely seeing the different families. They've been on a boat. They go over to the White Lotus Hotel and you're watching the stories of who have visited the hotel

whilst you're there. The amazing woman who's eccentric and is obsessed with the masseuse, you know, the lady, and she keeps saying, come to dinner with me and, you know, all of that. I really, really like it. The only thing I'd say that really annoys me are the two teenagers in it. Oh, really? Yeah.

And I really can't stand watching them because they annoy me so much. But they're meant to annoy me, so they're brilliant. They're playing it brilliantly. But I do find that family very very odd it's very you know just doesn't quite work when the dad comes into the hotel room and they've been doing drugs he's just like is that drugs honey and then he carries on about the day just a it's a very strange scenario yeah but that family wind me up it aggravates me. And then Mark says, well, I don't know why you're getting stressed. It's a television programme.

And I say, I know, but it just annoys me because as a family, if you were on holiday and Eliza and her friend, you'd found drugs. Can you imagine travelling with drugs? He said, but it's just a programme. That's not happened to you. Why are you so stressed about it? My dad is like that, though. My dad will watch stuff with my mum and he'll go,

well, that never would have happened. I mean, you know, he's doing that. And I mean, she would have turned around and said that. It would have been, that just wouldn't have happened. And mum has to go, it's a TV programme. You are watching Emmerdale right now, Nigel. You know, it's not real life. Yeah, yeah. I'm a bit like like Nigel I'm a bit like your dad

but I think it's beautifully shot the music's great and I definitely would you know like to continue because I think I've just touched the sides because obviously I've only watched a couple oh god you've got to get to the end because you love it don't you

I absolutely love it because it starts and then you go on this full-on journey with them on both series and you know that you're just going to find things out along the way and stuff at the end and it's going to turn out and with things that you never expected I think the characters are amazing I mean you know the receptionist in the first one Murray Bartlettlett, his name is. Oh my gosh, his character just gets better and better and better until by the end, it is just an utter joy to watch him. And I thought the second series couldn't get any better than the first,

but I mean, it is just right alongside it. Is it a whole new set of people on holiday in series two or is there a thread? There's a whole new set. There might be in series two or is there a thread? There's a whole new set. There might be like a few or one that kind of comes over. But series two is a whole new set of people, a whole new brand new story. And so each series stands alone and is, you know, just by itself. So would you recommend if that if that should I just because that family are really annoying me.

Should I just bite the bullet and just start series two yeah you could just start series two you could i do recommend that you stick with it though and you carry on going because they are meant to be and they get worse i mean it's funny they get worse because um they are meant to be they're all fucked up um but but if you want to you can go boom straight into series two. And Tom Holland, I always get confused between Tom Hollander and Tom Holland. And I know that one is Spider-Man. Tom Holland is Spider-Man. Right. So Tom Hollander is in series two. And he is just incredible, incredible in series two.

And also you've got the actor who played dexter in the new version of one day he is in series two playing like a cockney sort of you know a fella who um you kind of don't really trust i remember watching him thinking god i can't even imagine him as dexter and then quite clearly i fell in love with dexter and um yeah and so he's he's just like completely different so yeah you can get straight in on series two because it does stand alone. Oh, well, I'll see what I'm going to do. But yeah, no, I did enjoy it, Jo.

I enjoyed it, but it didn't blow me away. Now, something that did blow me away and it's coming on very, very soon is Bad Sisters. And I think you need to watch it. Right. Can we do that next week? Because you've gone on about it so much.

People have raved about it. I think it's November the 13th or something. I saw it on, you know, Insta again and it said it was coming back. But I do think you will absolutely love it. And it's all about the sisters. I really, it's funny, it's shocking. I really think you'll like it. It will blow my mind if you don't say,

I've watched all of it, I've binge watched it and I've been up all night. Well, anything that Sharon Horgan does, I just think is just incredible. I mean, I just absolutely love her. So let's do it next week. All right, let's do it. I think we should. Before we go, I'd like to know what our listeners are recommending for us this week. I know that we've got our own, but it's lovely to hear theirs, isn't it? Let's be honest. We've had this voice note from a listener about a new thriller that she would like us to watch. The new series, Night Sleeper.

Wow, how amazing is it? It had me literally gripping on the edge of the settee. We've like, oh no, oh no oh no oh gosh stop the train um i travel a lot um on the sleeper train service from london paddington down to penzance and the most exciting thing that ever happens to me is um changing into my pjs going into the catering van at about midnight and having a hot chocolate in PJs, crossing over the Tarmar Bridge and it doesn't get any better than that. Oh.

Maybe we should do that next week as well, night sleeper. You know, I think we should because everybody is talking about it. I love Alexandra Roach. She's just fab. I love anything that she's in. And maybe we should, because there is a lot of buzz about it and everyone is talking about how much they're loving it. Let's do it.

Oh, well, maybe we'll just stick to those two for next week then, because we're very busy next week again, aren't we? We've got super busy weeks. And they're big ones. And if we just stick to two next week, we can watch more of it, because I've got a feeling I'm going to be going through those bad sisters. I really think you're right. Well, thank you to everyone who's answered our call out

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