Off The Telly - He's the Mick Jagger of comedy

Episode Date: May 22, 2024

What are we watching? Natalie Cassidy and Joanna Page chat about all things telly.This week they discuss their fave new police drama Blue Lights on BBC iPlayer, Noel Fielding's new comedy The Completely Made-Up Adventures of Dick Turpin, and the latest series of Glow Up: Britain's Next Make-Up Star on the BBC.In Off the Telly, Natalie and Joanna talk about what they can’t stop watching, what they definitely aren’t going to bother with, and what you’re all watching at home. From new shows to comfort telly to guilty pleasures, there’s no judgement here. What’s kept us all glued to our screens this week?Self-confessed TV addicts and stars of two of the biggest shows on our screens, EastEnders and Gavin and Stacey, Natalie and Joanna are the perfect companions to your weekly viewing habits.Get in touch by sending us a message or voice note via WhatsApp to 03306 784704.Timecodes for the shows discussed are:6:41 - Blue Lights 14:12 - The Completely Made-Up Adventures of Dick Turpin 18:18 - Glow Up: Britain's Next Make-Up StarHosts: Natalie Cassidy and Joanna Page Producer: Georgia Keating Executive Producer: Richard Morris Commissioning Editor: Rhian Roberts Unit Manager: Lucy Bannister Sounds Editor: Arlie Adlington Music by MCassoOff The Telly is a BBC Studios Audio Production for BBC Sounds.

BBC Sounds, music, radio, podcasts. Hello and welcome to Off The Telly from BBC Sounds. I'm Natalie Cassidy. And I'm Joanna Page. And this is the podcast where we have a good old chat about what telly we've been watching this week. Now there might be a bit of swearing because we could get passionate about stuff and there will be spoilers, although we will warn you beforehand.

So how have you been? I've been all right. I'm quite excited because I've discovered a new pair of jeans, which I'm quite happy about. And they are, even though I'm sitting here now with my top button undone.

They're lovely on love you I've gone for a mum or mom fitting as it has called itself and I'm quite liking this new fitting of jean I have been a fan of a mom jean for a while so I'm pleased you've joined the club well do you know every time I see you I've always liked your jeans I haven't asked you where you've got them from but I always like the jeans that you're wearing. Well, they're always mom's or baggy fit or boyfriend jeans or whatever. Yes. Well, I like it that these ones are ankle grazing.

And so it's quite good. And I'm full on in sandal wear now. Full on now in sandals. I was going to say, they're lovely sandals. So what have you been up to? You are a very busy woman right now. Very busy, busy. And I'm doing loads of lovely stuff at EastEnders. Can't wait for everyone to watch

it. It's really exciting stuff. Now quizzes we have had so many of you get in touch about our quiz special from a couple of weeks ago. We're so pleased you love quizzes as much as we do. We asked if any of you had been on a quiz or knew anyone who'd been on a quiz show.

Let's find out what some of you said. Oh, now we've got this message from Debbie. Hi, Joanna and Natalie. I also love quiz shows. And when you were talking about Bullseye, it reminded me of when I was in middle school and my old form teacher, Mrs Smith, went on as a contestant with her husband.

They went out in the first round, but the other two contestants didn't gamble. So they got to come back on, gambled and won a speedboat. It was funny. She was very pregnant at the time. She never told us if she kept it or not. I love the podcast, Debbie from Northumberland. Oh, that is brilliant. Brilliant, Debbie. Thank you.

Let's have a listen to James, who's been on The Weakest Link. Hi, Nat. Hi, Jo. It's James here from Stone in Staffordshire. And you asked if anybody's had any sort of embarrassing moments on quiz shows themselves. And it reminded me of when I went on The Weakest Link aged 19. And it was back in the Anne Robinson days.

So, of course, you got no hope if you got a question wrong there. And she asked me, the wood ebony makes which colour keys on the piano? And just in a blind fit of panic with my legs shaking, I just shouted white. Of course, she gave her usual response of black. And yeah, I got quite ribbed for that over the last few years, I have to say. And the only other thing I was going to say about game shows was, can we please bring back Golden Balls?

Do you remember? Oh, I love Golden Balls. That was amazing. We were all waiting for that moment at the end, weren't we, where they were going to say whether they would share or steal the money. It was amazing, that was. Anyway, keep up the great work, ladies. Loving the podcast.

Oh, what a lovely voice note. That was lovely. Thank you, James. I loved Golden Balls. But do you know what? I first of all said I liked Golden Balls then. What was actually in my mind was Henry, what's his name, doing 12 to 1.

No. Going for gold. Going for gold! Oh, Henry Kelly! Henry Kelly! Henry Kelly! That trumps Golden Balls. Yes, yes, it does. I'm going to get that up and watch it on YouTube.

Yeah. That's going to make me very happy. I love that. Lost from the past. Yes, yes, it wasn't 12 to 1. It was going for gold. Right, finally, we've got a voice note from someone responding to what we said about University Challenge.

Let's play it. Hey, Natalie. Hey, Joanna. Thank you so much for being so kind about University Challenge and about me as the host of that programme. I do feel really honoured and humbled to be the successor to Jeremy Paxman in the Quizmasters chair. I also feel very honoured to be on the Off the Tele podcast. Congratulations on all your success. fact about university challenge did you know that the person who does the surnames the guy who goes uh bbc cassidy or uh london page is in fact a real person i thought that the voice of roger tilling was built in like a kind of artificial intelligence into the buzzers

but no he's actually there he sits there kind of just out of a camera shot he's a real person and he does all the names absolutely live he's a lovely bloke brilliant at his job six foot five and get this by a crazy coincidence he lives about 150 yards from my parents house in tooting in south london how nuts is that anyway love your podcast and hope to see you guys really soon. Bye. Oh, isn't that lovely? That's so lovely. I know

Roger Tilling did that live because there was a documentary all about it. Oh my God, really? What an amazing message to get. That's so exciting. Oh my gosh. Now we need to get. That's so exciting. Oh, my gosh. Now we need to get Mr Tilling.

Yes. Oh, can we get Mr Tilling to do... Oh, my God. Cassidy Cambridge. Swansea Page. That'd be good, wouldn't it? I'd love to get Roger Tilling to do that for me. Oh, gosh, can we try and get him to do it for us?

Thank you so much, Emma. Isn't that amazing? Thank you. much, Emma. Isn't that amazing? Thank you. That's amazing. I can't wait to go home and tell my husband. No, and he's got such a warm, lovely voice. I think he smashed it, you know. Yeah.

And I'm pleased that, you know, he's pleased that we like him. We've actually got a link to University Challenge now. That's quite a big thing for me. Like those seven steps of what's it called it now, you know. What's it called it now? You sound like me now. That's quite a big thing for me. Seven steps of what's it's called it now, you know. What's it called it now? You sound like me now. I'm actually talking about University Challenge and I can't form a sentence.

I'm talking about University Challenge and I'm saying, what's it called it now? Right then. This week we're talking about Blue Lights on BBC iPlayer, the completely made-up adventures of Dick Turpin on Apple TV and Glow Up, Britain's next make-up star on BBC iPlayer. We've got loads to get through, so let's get on with it, shall we? Yep. Let's talk telly.

Let's start with Blue Lights. Now, it's a police drama and it's on the bbc and we've had absolutely loads of you recommend to us loads so we knew that we were going to watch it so let's hear first of all what one of our lovely listeners has had to say about it i am nat and joe i just want to say i'm absolutely loving the podcast i'm like a nodding dog Satya I'm just yes that's right yes oh I agree yes that's right oh oh I'm like that all the way through it I absolutely love it anyway I'm Satya making wedding flowers for a cake on Saturday so you're keeping me going doing that. My recommendation and you have to watch this

is Blue Lights on BBC iPlayer. It's the second series. Oh my god I was hooked. I binge watched it all the way through. It is incredible. I'd say it's better than the first

series. You have to watch it it just keeps you on the edge of your seat anyway keep doing what you're doing because I'm absolutely loving it yay oh she sounds like a blast I think I said right come on let's just get in there with series 2

and you said no let's start from series 1 and oh my gosh I'm so glad you did. Today, on the way in in the car, I watched the last episode of series one. I really don't want to know. I'm not going to tell you. I know that we say there's going to be spoilers. Yeah, but I'm not going to say anything.

I just have to say, though, I've not watched it because for some reason, I thought it was more sort of comedy and and sort of lightweight comedy kind of I didn't ever really know that it was what it is are you not thinking about the thin blue line no definitely not I thought it was a bit lighter than what it was I didn't think that it was like this serious hard-hitting fab police drama I gotta say it's absolutely incredible well I have to say that I started it and this is the first thing really that I said Mark come on yeah we're gonna we're gonna watch it every night together because I've been watching so much telly without you and it has been really busy but we are

now on we're just I fell asleep last night I think 10 minutes before the end just because I'm so knackered and we're watching them in bed yeah but I think it was um right towards the end just because I'm so knackered and we're watching them in bed. Yeah. But I think it was right towards the end of Ep 4. Yes. Of Series 1. So I've only got a couple more to go. Oh, my gosh. And we are absolutely... It's one of those we go,

oh, can't wait for Blue Lights tonight. I mean, it's kind of like... It's right up there with Line of Duty. It's brilliant. I feel like Line of Duty... I feel like this is easier to follow. Yeah. Yeah. And I like this is easier to follow. Yeah. And I like following their stories. It's about three

new police recruits in Belfast and, you know, learning in the police and then also the different drug gangs and other gangs and everything that's going on. I just love the demographic of the people that have been in the force for ages and the ones that are looking after the newcomers

and they're out in the car together, aren't they? Yeah, they're partnered up with an older one. Yeah, and they've got real character. And I always say, whatever you're watching, if you fall in love with the character, it doesn't matter about the story. And I think they're really hit on each character. It's so well written. Really good.

Each character has their own voice and the characters are so well formed that you just love them and you just get to know them straight away and everybody is different. Everybody's got their own character. It is so believable. It is so natural and oh my god

it is so raw and hard hitting. It's brilliant. I'm loving it but not in a shocking way you know what I mean I feel like it's real it's so real do you know what I love as well right

is that that I didn't know anybody apart from Sian Brooke I didn't know anybody in the cast well I didn't know her oh didn't you no not really and I think she's absolutely

she's so good she's so good she's so softly spoken she's 42 or 43 she just really resonated with me I thought oh you're the same age as me your character She's absolutely... She's so good. She's so good. She's so softly spoken. She's 42 or 43. She just really resonated with me. I thought, oh, you're the same age as me, your character. Yeah.

Do you know what I mean? I just thought, oh, you're really great. She's so lovely. I just love it that she doesn't push it. What about Jen? I love Jen. She's a little shit, isn't she? Jen.

Jen. The one who doesn't want to go out and the one who doesn't want to get in the... Oh, she's absolutely brilliant. Oh, she's so good, isn't she? Jen. Jen. The one who doesn't want to go out and the one who doesn't want to get in. Oh, she's absolutely brilliant. Oh, she's so good, isn't she? You just say, how the fuck are you getting away with that? Oh, God, she's amazing. I love the one with the old man

who was pissing on top of the bus and she said, if you say that you're suicidal, we'll have to take you to hospital all day. Yes. But she knows every trick in the book. She does. So she hasn't got to do all day. Yes. But she knows every trick in the book. She does. So she hasn't got to do any work, basically.

And I love... Oh, what's his name? Oh, it's Jerry. It's Jerry, played by Richard Dormer. And he's got such a lovely, gravelly, deep voice. I thought you might like him. Like that. You do like to have a little chat about who you fancy in the programmes.

Did you see it and go, Joe's going to fancy him? I watched that and I went, Joe's going to fancy him. Mark went, what are you talking about? I said, Joe's going to like him. I guarantee you when we go in to record the pod, she'll say, she'll say, I quite fancy him. Am I right? I like it.

He's got a twinkle in his eye. Yeah. And he's just, he's so gravelly with that gravelly deep voice and he's got a twinkle and he's a bit of a rogue isn't he

and you know if you were partnered up with him he's like you know he'd just go off and he's brave and you'd have to keep up with him

and also very caring though and knows what he's doing as well so caring and such a good good officer I mean I just think I think the casting is just amazing I am one I just want you to tell me now He's very caring now and knows what he's doing as well. Yes, so caring and such a good, good officer.

I mean, I just think the casting's just amazing. I am. I just want you to tell me now. I'm not going to say what happens, right? But I was sitting there, I had my headphones on and the last episode for Series 1 was on and I'm not joking, right? My hand was on my chest and my mouth was... I was like that. No.

And my mouth was wide open and then I started getting upset and I thought, oh, my God, I'm going to cry in a minute. And I was like... And I. And my mouth was wide open, and then I started getting upset, and I thought, oh, my God, I'm going to cry in a minute. And I was like... And it just took my breath away. It took my breath away, and then, boom, I started straight away the first episode of Series 2. So that's what I was about to say.

Damn good. Series 1, as it ends... Yeah. Is it a cliff for Series 2? Not telling you. Not telling you. My lips are sealed. It's so good.

Okay. It's so good. Well, I can highly recommend this show to anyone who hasn't seen it. I'd not really heard about it. My lips are sealed. It's so good. Okay. It's so good. Well, I can highly recommend this show to anyone who hasn't seen it. I'd not really heard about it. I don't know why, because I'm always watching BBC stuff and I've got iPlayer on all the time, but it just passed me by. So I would absolutely recommend going back to Series 1 and starting it from the beginning.

Definitely. And my old friend, Nabil, who used to play Tarek in EastEnders, popped up as Joseph, you know, the MI5 guy? Yes. And I thought, oh, my God, who used to play Tarek in EastEnders, popped up as Joseph. You know, the MI5 guy. Yes. And I thought, oh my God, you're brilliant. Absolutely brilliant. And I'll tell you another fact about him, shall I? What? He played Gary in Only Fools and Horses.

Did he? Years and years ago, he had a starring role in one of the episodes. Wow. So there you go. A very varied career. And he is brilliant in it. I don't trust him. I know he's undercover in MI5 but it's like there's all of that going on isn't there? There's a lot going on. He's so good

and I love Annie. She's brilliant. You know the trainee with dark hair. Absolutely brilliant. She's good. I can't recommend it enough. I've already recommended it to my parents. I was like you've got to watch this. You love it. It's brilliant. I would recommend anybody to watch it. Start with series one. It's fab. So our next one is the completely made up adventures of Dick Turpin. And you can catch this on Apple TV. Now, I put this on,

gosh, quite a bit ago because I thought, oh, look, I love Noel Fielding and it's got a cracking cast and I thought, I'll put this on and I think the kids will like it. So they did and they enjoyed it. I've only watched a couple of episodes and I don't think I'd watch it on my own. No, again, I wouldn't.

It is interesting. I'm sorry to be boring that we haven't got the same opinion but I too put it on quite a while back and really thought this is so fun, this is so brilliant. But it is one for the kids. Yeah. It's Noel Field in humour. So Mighty Boosh, it's all really tongue-in-cheek.

It's just really, really silly. Yeah. So actually, none of it makes any sense. And it's all tongue-in-cheek and Mark heaps in it. I was in an episode of love soup years ago which was directed by chris gurnan who directed gavin and stacy right so i was like oh it's so exciting and you know i get to work with her but i was so nervous because it was with mark heap and i just think he's the most amazing actor i think i just seen him in some julia davis you know sort

of things and i was playing triplets and so we'd have to film we had to film everything three times and then so i'd film the whole of the stuff you know just in one as one kind of one then they'd have to redo all my hair and everything and then i'd do another one slightly different and then they do it all over again then i do a third one slightly different took flipping ages that is brilliant when i watched it though yeah but the cast in this is fab i mean you've got hugh bonnieville and i know i know i think it's very horrible and tamsin tamsin Gregg's in it, who I love. I don't think I've seen her in it.

Yeah, yeah. Really, really good. My mate Joe Wilkinson's in it. Ah. Well, yeah, no, I think it's really good. And I think the kids love it. My kids sat there and it's kind of, you know, like horrible histories. They just, you know, love it and just don't want to stop watching.

Anything that's to do with the olden days and death. I think, yeah, all of that. It's so, it's just don't want to stop watching. Anything that's to do with the olden days and death and illness, they love it. Yeah, all of that. It's so... It is just easy, isn't it? It's escapism. Yeah. That's the thing.

And Noel Fielding is so clever. And I like the fact that he's gone back to creating something. Because I know he's always... And he does a lot of art now, doesn't he? He's an artist. Does he? Yeah, he does loads of... I follow his Instagram.

He does beautiful artwork. Yeah. And obviously he does presents in still Bake Off, etc. Yeah. But I was really pleased to see that he'd sort of written something again and he's gone back to that. So has he written it? Yeah.

Oh, I didn't know that he'd written it. I'm sure that's right. So, yeah, you know, it's nice to see him writing again. Obviously it's written by lots of different people, but good that he's... You know, it's just nice to see him back on the telly as a character. Yes, it is, isn't it? Really good. Yeah, it's nice to see him doing acting and stuff. Yeah, very much so. Because he's so good and he's, you know, it's just nice to see him back on the telly as a character. Yes, it is, isn't it? Really good.

Yeah, it's nice to see him do an acting and stuff. Yeah, very much so. Because he's so good and he's so clever. I saw him outside in Covent Garden once up Shaftesbury Avenue. Yeah. In a pair of leopard print kind of lovely trousers. Massive glittery boots with a heel. Yeah.

He looks so fucking cool. Oh my God, I love his clothes. Probably, maybe a false fur, not saying he wears fur. But, my God, I love his clothes. Maybe a false fur, not so anywhere's fur. But, you know, he just looked. He is the Mick Jagger of comedy, isn't he? He is, isn't he? Do you know, I've watched The Bake Off and I have Googled, I've Googled many a time, where does he get his ankle boots from?

Because, like, they're the perfect 60s, 70s ankle boots. And I'm putting a call out there. If Noel Fielding would let us know, or anybody who knows where he gets his boots from, where does Noel Fielding get his ankle boots from? Because they're really nice, and I'm sure that they come up in women's sizes too. Yeah, and also I've got quite a wide foot,

so they'd be perfect for me. They would. Because I've got a bit of a man's foot anyway. Have you? What size are yours? No, I'm a six, but just... They're wide. They would. Because I've got a bit of a man's foot anyway. Have you? What size are yours? No, I'm a six, but just They're wide. They're very wide. But yeah, highly recommend this show. Yes. For the family.

Great viewing. Absolutely. Go for it. The kids will absolutely love it. It's a bit, not risky, but it's a bit like, I'm sure that there was a small bit of swearing and there's quite a bit of death and stuff. Not awful. No. But enough to keep the kids of a certain age who love horrible histories really interested.

It's all very tongue-in-cheek, a little bit of sarcasm. Yeah. Very, very good. Noel Fielding at his best. Now, the next show is Glow Up, Britain's Next Make-Up Star. Now, I can't believe

that there have been six series of this. Six? Yeah, this is series six. Now, the show is the makeup show of all shows. It's the same sort of concept as your Bake Off or your Sewing Bee. So it is a makeup competition. And you have your eight hopefuls who start out, and each week they have to create these amazing make-ups

in all different scenarios. I couldn't believe it. I mean, they have notched it right up, this series. Oh, my God. First episode, Lady Gaga appears. Yes, yes. Amazing. I absolutely love it.

I've watched it from the very first one and then over the years I've sort of petered away and not watched it for a bit. So this is the first one I've watched it from the very first one. And then over the years, I've sort of petered away and not watched it for a bit. So this is the first one I've watched in ages. And I still love it. I love a ding dong. I love it. The ding dong is the judge's equivalent on Glow Up to a Paul Hollywood handshake. So if anyone gets a ding dong, they're very, very pleased.

But what I couldn't believe starting watching this series was just how different it was to the very, very first series. And it started and, oh my God, it's just like everything is kind of about your mobile phone and social media. And I found that, and it's just because I'm getting old, but I found that a bit sad but that is what you need these days you've got to you know so that's just me personally going Jesus how things have changed yeah absolutely I was flabbergasted because it was you know you've

so Lady Gaga's got this new makeup range we want you to do a makeup look and you need to do it like how they do it on social media you've got like these snaps you know where it cuts cuts cuts cuts you've got a few different lines that you need to say and then you need to deliver sort of like a little you know real type thing really wasn't it yeah what about the girl who started by going my um my mobile phone is my baby uh everything is my mobile phone I'm so good I'm like the social queen and everything and then she starts doing the thing and then she just goes well i'm not going to take my eye makeup off because i don't have time so i'll do the rest of it because i know that lady gaga's range is basically all

about skin so i'll leave the blues and greens on my eyes from makeup that she's turned up in that day yeah yeah and i'll just do all the rest and you can see lady gaga's makeup you know um artist going she's wearing a different brand's eye makeup. And you're not taking it off. Because you can't be bothered to take it off. So straight off, you can't show that reel because you are advertising somebody. How can you be so stupid?

Well, also, you've got that far. You're in the competition. And doesn't it mean anything to you? Yeah. But how much they, like you said from the beginning, it was just kind of a face of makeup it was and now it's they're artists they are artists i mean i watched the final on the way here tonight yeah in the car yeah and i was blown away by all of the people what they did

what they created but ella's story was so wonderful because she's so young and she was so nervous. And then on the final one, what she comes out with, sorry, I know it's a spoiler, but honestly, this piece of art that she creates, I was just blown away how every part of the skin is covered.

And even the chest and the way they spray the make-up on. They're artists. They are, aren't they? When they've got to do the task, which is the thing that they've chosen to do. Yeah. So they'll do, you know, like the test, you know, each thing and that might go wrong and that might whatever. But then, you know, they're given a lifeline, aren't they?

Well, it's a bit like the showstopper, isn't it, of Bake Off? Yes. And you do watch and you go, my God, they've got three hours. And it's just incredible. It is really incredible. On the first step, there was the girl who does wedding make-up. And she was the one who'd won the first task. And you think, my gosh, she went from winning the first task,

but then when it came to doing, you know, the showstopper, she just wasn't a part. They are like, whoa, they must just spend so much time creating things and it just takes hours, doesn't it? Hours and hours. I wonder if my daughter is creating in her bedroom when she's up there for hours and hours and hours in front of a mirror. I wonder because you think, my God.

And some of them haven't done art or haven't done work. They just somehow can create it. But it must be so strange to go from that and sitting in your room for three hours and creating something on your face to then being put on telly with a model in front of you and then you've got to paint it on someone else so it is very different isn't it to do your own makeup i couldn't do someone else's no no when i do my makeup i squirt a bit of foundation in my hands yeah a bit of moisturiser rub it on like that i don't even own a brush yeah yeah me neither absolutely terrible i just have a bit of foundation in my hands. Yeah. A bit of moisturiser. Rub it on like that. I don't even own a brush. Yeah, yeah.

Me neither. Absolutely terrible. I just shove a bit of concealer on my chin, around my nose and under my eyes. Yeah, I've got concealer, yeah. I put mascara on. I put a little bit of blusher on and some lip salve. And then sometimes I might put a bit on my eyebrows.

That's my lot. Yeah, I've got a bit of a bronzer as well sometimes. I can be bothered. I think I need to put some bronzer on this summer because I've decided I'm going to start using proper, like, suntan, like, full block on my face. Oh, I always use full block. You've got to. Do you?

There's a brilliant one. I'll send it to you. You'll have to tell me. But it says Pia 50. Mm. I mean, I think that's a block. 50. Well, no, I don't think it is a complete block,

but it's a 50, which is high. Yeah. But it's a tinted moisturiser. Now, that's what block. 50. Well, no, I don't think it is a complete block, but it's a 50, which is high. Yeah. But it's a tinted moisturiser. Now, that's what I'm looking for. Yes, that's what I need, something like that. And I've been looking for one for ages, but then normally they come out quite greasy. But yeah, can you imagine that?

And I always just think, oh my gosh, you know when you see some of them and they're not used to suddenly only having three hours and it's like an eight-hour make-up and they're panicking and they might only just do half the face. I love it. I love it.

But also what's really good about that is if they do get into the business, there will be times, please God, they'll get a job or there'll be a catwalk or a magazine shoot and you don't have eight hours.

So it is really, really good training for them. But I love the campness of it all. I love all the walls of make-up. I'm not even into make-up, but I absolutely love it. Yes, because, yeah, I don't wear a lot of make-up. But I love it. I'm in my element. I just love the show.

And I love him. What's the name of the male judge? Oh, Dominic. I love Dominic Skinner. I love, for starters, normally the jumpers that he's wearing. And then Dominic's moustache. Wonderful moustache, yeah. It's so wonderful.

And then Val Garland. I've started following her on Instagram. And she'll just show you how to do an eyebrow or how to do a whatever. But I love it when it comes down to one person being thrown out. And it all comes down to, can you do a 60s flip eyeliner? I know, it's great. Can you do the perfect red lip? The red lip.

And they're there with their looking glass. And oh, I just love it. I can sit there. That's one on my own. Oh, definitely. Actually, I've started watching that with Eva and she loves it. Well, Eliza loves it. Yeah.

She enjoys it. We've been watching maths. We've been watching Married at First Sight Australia. Have you? Yeah. What's it been like? Because the Australian one, they're always more full on, aren't they? Is it suitable?

Would it be suitable for an 11-year-old? Well, at the moment, we're only at the wedding stage. Oh, yeah. And, you know, we're only a couple in. And I did say to her, they all get together soon. It's like love, right? They end up in the villa and all of that. But, you know, she's 14 in September.

But it might be. I'll let you know. I'll let you know. But it's really insightful to us sitting there talking and her going, oh, he's gaslighting her. And I go, good girl. Oh, yes. And we can chat about relationships and well you wouldn't do this

and she said oh family's everything. If the families don't get on if the family didn't get on I'd walk out and I think oh that's lovely. Oh that's good. Yes that's good. Think about it but all these ones like Love is Blind and all of that. Eva wants to watch Love is Blind with me and there was a bit of swearing but I think she'd

love it. And it is a bit of swearing, but I think she'd love it. And it is quite good for us teaching our kids, you know, who to go for, who not to go for. What to steer clear of. Yeah. You know, it's pretty good. Yeah, definitely. But yes, we absolutely love Glow Up.

Listeners, we hugely recommend it. Right, well, I think it's time to hear if you guys have got any new recommendations for us. We've had a voice note from Christine about a brand new show she thinks we'll like. Let's have a listen. Hi, ladies. Happy Wednesday. My name's Christine. I'm calling from Fortune Hotel on ITVX.

Absolutely love the programme. It's giving me Traitor's vibes, that type of programme. A little bit different as you're in paradise, wherever it is in the Caribbean. It's beautiful. But I really, really like it. It started Monday. It's just caught me. It's on Monday But I really, really like it. It started Monday. It's just caught me. It's on Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday.

And I just, I can't wait for nine o'clock to come. Whereas normally, 9pm, I'm exhausted after a long day. Glass of wine, feet up, or cup of herbal tea and bed. But this has got me gripped. I absolutely love it. Definitely, definitely want to recommend, ladies. I love it. Oh, brilliant.

I've seen it advertised. And you just kept saying, oh, what's that? What's that? Can we watch it? We love a bit of The Traitors. Yes, we do. So maybe we have to give it a go. I think so. It's being presented by Stephen Mangan.

Oh, yeah. I love Stephen. I like him a lot. I went to see his theatre show and I actually saw him in Cornwall recently. Did you really? With his family, yeah. Oh.

So he's an acquaintance, shall we say. Not a friend, but an acquaintance. What a lovely man. Well, he's a really good actor, so I bet he'll be good doing that. Yeah, did you... What did he do with Matt LeBlanc? Did you ever watch that?

Extras! No, not episodes. Did you see how much I committed to that? I knew it was along the same thing. I loved episodes. I absolutely loved it. That was Tamsin Gregg. Yeah.

I loved episodes. Really, really good. Oh, God, it was good, wasn't it? BBC Two was a great one. It was so good, wasn't it? And Matt was a great one. It was so good, wasn't it? And Matt LeBlanc was hilarious. He was fantastic in it. So, as always, thank you so much for all your messages and voice notes.

And we've had lots of you, lovely lot, get in touch after our guilty pleasures telly call out the last couple of weeks. So we've got another bonus episode dropping on Friday that's all about you guys and the telly you like to watch. So keep an eye out for another Off the Telly What Shall We Watch? this Friday on BBC Sounds. Also, we've got another call out for you. For our next bonus episode, we'd

love to get some voice notes from you about what your favourite childhood telly is. What shows just instantly take you back to your childhood? Are there any mad kid shows that you can't believe were made in the 80s or 90s or noughties? We want to know. We love hearing your voices,

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