Off The Telly - “I love the fact that Alison Hammond was in a fridge”

Episode Date: April 9, 2025

Natalie Cassidy and Joanna Page chat about all things on and off the telly. Nat and Jo have had a lot of telly to watch this week, but they haven’t necessarily been watching the same shows… Jo has been obsessed with Married At First Sight Australia and Nat can’t enough of The Beatles in Get Back. But to be fair they've both been watching a new doc called Stacey & Joe which follows King and Queen of the jungle Joe Swash and Stacey Solomon.What they can’t stop watching, what they definitely aren’t going to bother with, new releases and comforting classics – TV is timeless and no telly is out of bounds. As well as having a natter about what’s on TV, they share backstage goss from the world of telly, whilst also cracking up about the more humbling moments in their lives. Self-confessed TV addicts and stars of two of the biggest shows on our screens, EastEnders and Gavin and Stacey, Natalie and Joanna are the perfect companions to see what’s occurring on and off the telly.Timecodes for shows discussed today are:19:23 - Stacey & Joe (BBC iPlayer) 29:00 - Married At First Sight Australia (Channel 4) 34:50 - Get Back (Disney+)Get in touch by sending us a message or voice note via WhatsApp to 03306 784704.Hosts: Natalie Cassidy and Joanna Page Producer: Georgia Keating Executive Producer: James Robinson Commissioning Editor: Rhian Roberts Production Co-ordinator: Becky Carewe-Jeffries Sounds Editor: Arlie Adlington Music by MCassoOff The Telly is a BBC Studios Audio Production for BBC Sounds.

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life, everyday life with kids. And I feel like, I just feel very tired and I feel like everything is all starting to turn the same colour. Like I think I'm looking quite pale, my eyebrows, I think the sun is out. I think you have got a very rosy complexion. Do you think so? Yeah. Oh my gosh, because I think I'm looking quite pale. My eyelashes are going very blonde, my eyebrows are going very blonde, my hair's gone blonde. So it's basically, I'm feeling

like a bit marshmallow-ish at the top. I think I need to get my eyelashes dyed and then I'll feel like I've got a bit of something standing out. How about some falsies? Not just sort of glued on, like the proper falsies? I've never ever had that done. I booked to have it done when we were doing the second series of Gavin and Stacey and Claire, the costume designer, we were filming where Gavin and Stacey coming back from their honeymoon and she used to get them done and she convinced me to book in and get it done and I did and then I told Rob Brydon and like an actual making fun of you uncle, he said, don't get that done, you look like the Panto Dame and I felt all embarrassed and I phoned and I cancelled

the appointment and that was about 17 years ago and I've never ever ever had it done. Well I have to say that I had it done once years and years ago or years ago like you say yeah and I think never do it. What oh my god why? Because when they come off, you feel like you've got absolutely no eyelashes. Yes, yeah. Do you know what I mean? Although I do feel a bit like this now when my sten is in. Well I know, that's I think why I've never had extensions or anything put in. Because I feel thicker, I'm like, oh.

Well I know when it all comes out, you'll just feel like a thin straw. Nine hairs and a nit. That is like my house. But that's what I've always thought. When they come off, what do you do then? Yeah. It's just something you've got to sustain. You've just got to keep it going and I just can't be bothered with that. No, I'm a bit the same.

I'm going to see how the hair goes. How is it going now? How is the hair? It's all right. It's okay. I mean, it's scraped back today. Have you had enough? No. Yeah, you still like it. No, I really like it, but I can't do it myself. Yes. Yeah. So there's an issue there. Yes. Because I can dry it and run a straightener through it. But it looks really nice when it's blow dried properly and then I feel great. But I haven't done that for a week or so.

Yeah I can't be doing with all of that yeah I just can't. Oh my god but let's put that to the side because oh my god I absolutely loved your new channel 4 show. Oh did you? It's brilliant we all sat down together as a family I was like right come on it's starting at eight everybody sit down sit down so we all sat down together as a family. I was like, right, come on, it's starting at eight. Everybody sit down, sit down. So we all sat down to watch it. We all absolutely loved it. For starters, I think you look absolutely gorgeous. You look lovely. Your hair, your makeup, everything that you're wearing. I thought you looked beautiful.

And then the way that, you know, like all of the graphics and everything on the show. I thought that all looked fantastic. I was loving it and I liked it. That it wasn't slow or boring or anything but it wasn't too fast paced that you know when stuff goes past and you're not following. I just genuinely really really enjoyed it. I'm really pleased you liked it.

I thought it was so good. Oh my god when you went to meet the blue tips I was like get her in the water. I know. Just get her in the water. I know. And then I was utterly overjoyed when you sat on the black chair and you were slowly lowered in because I think that's the quietest I've ever, ever heard you. You didn't make a noise. I would have much rather have got in the sea. Yeah. But it was part of the story, if you like, to go to the university and see how it was done, being wired up so they could do all of the science behind it. But it was done. Being wired up so they could do all

of the science behind it. But it was a beautiful day, the sun was shining, all the ladies were so brilliant and I thought I want to get in. Well yes, because I bet you're all jeered up with all the enthusiasm and all the energy. And also you've got control of how you get in, not being controlled on a chair that you're strapped into. I know, because you were lower down so, because sometimes it's best just to go stuff it right. Straight in yeah. Oh my god it's like a form of torture to slowly be like slowly lower down. When you came out you were blue. I know. You were literally blue. You could just see my red shoulders. Oh no but I'm really pleased

you... I love it. I want to say one thing about it. Yeah. I think it's the most nervous I've been watching something. Oh my god, really? Yeah. Well it is kind of, it's not the first presenting you've ever done but it is like the first first thing like that. It is the first, yeah and I think because you're being yourself and it's the first thing since the Eastenders, I don't know, I found it a bit cringy. I thought it was lovely because I thought that you were so natural.

I really really liked you. I really liked listening to you. I thought you were really natural, really lovely. I genuinely was listening and following all of it. And I just thought I really, really liked you. Oh, I'm really pleased. And I can't wait to watch more. I thought it was brilliant. Thank you. Would you ever buy one of the masks? Well.

One of the red masks. Now I've looked into it. I'd say the LED face mask. You have to get a good one. Yeah. Is what I would say. Yeah. Because they do them, you have to get a good one. Yeah. That's what I would say. Yeah. Because they do them, you know, on, on, yeah. Well, yeah, but imagine getting a £24 one. You can see you've got to get the one with the big lights, haven't you? Got to have a lot of bulbs in them. Yeah. I got very excited though, seeing the influencer, because I'd seen him on Glow Up, the makeup show. Yes, yeah. And he was really lovely, but it's amazing when they just like knock out videos and they've

just got it up like that and they can just chat away. It's such a skill, isn't it? Oh, very much so, very much so. He was really lovely. We had a good time. Was he nice? No, it was a very, very interesting, insightful program because you're meeting so many different people all the time and you're traveling around.

I quite like talking to everybody. So, no, it's good. I liked all of the stuff with the ice baths. I liked all of the different families and I'm looking forward to meeting the other ones as well. Yeah. I liked all of the ice bath stuff. Good. Oh, I'm pleased. So have you been tempted to get an ice bath or are you like, absolutely? Absolutely not. I think that as far as I would go with that is having a shower

and then turn on it's cold for 10 seconds. Yeah. I think it's meant to be really good for you. Yeah. Well, it is, isn't it? I mean, when we were watching, Eva was saying that, she was like, well, we could fill up our bath and we could just like jump in, make sure it's on like 12 degrees and then you couldn't just get in or just do the shower afterwards. Just do the shower.

Yeah, that'll be easier, wouldn't it? Yeah. Because otherwise you've got a bath outside, there's inflatable ones that you get and then a fox would come in. Have a shit in it. Or bite it. True. I was thinking more of it not being inflated but if we want to talk about defecation we can.

That reminds me of once, right, when it was absolutely boiling, I spent, oh my god, the good part of an hour blowing up this huge, what's it called, inflatable paddling pool. And I blew it all up and then got the water and filled it all the way up and then Eva came along on her bike really fast and sort of skidded into it and the prongs from the wheel went like that and it just completely deflated. Honest to God I've never felt so down in my life. It's kind of like what is the point? What is the point? I really, the summer months are on their way and we have a rather large puddling pool. Yeah. And if I wake up in the morning and I look down and it's sort of on a slant and all the water's pouring

out of it, it's one of the worst things that can happen. It is isn't it? It is. It's really bad. Why is that? Oh God, because they take so long to put up. Because you get them and on the box, everyone's sitting there with their arms leaning back, Mum's got a glass of wine or something, everyone looks happy. They don't actually show the reality. If Mum and Dad have argued, because she's gone, well you get it out of the garage, and then Dad's just gone, I just can't be bothered, I haven't got time or whatever. The kids are all moaning and everything. Dad's gone it out, they've then had a barney and then he spent about two hours, first of all, putting it together and blowing it up and then in the third hour you've got to spend then the rest of the day filling it up. And

then nobody will get in it because it's bloody freezing. It's freezing cold. He's got to wait the whole day for the sun to warm the water up. That's what we're going into now. I've just bought Bo a little slide to go in the garden and I've bought her this little sort of like playhouse. Oh that's lovely. Yes. That's good.

That's weird because we've just come out of all of that and we've just got rid of our playhouse. Well why didn't you bloody tell me? I could have had it when I had to buy one for Bo then. Oh no, you say that. I think you would have preferred a new one. Well, she's the fourth. So basically she just gets whatever now. Oh dear, we've got a couple of voice notes to get through as well.

Lovely. I think it's about the doc. So thank you so much for your voice notes about the documentary. Should we have a listen? Yes. Good morning, ladies. It's Lindsay from Stafford. And I just want to say well done, Natalie, for your show last night. I was there ready at eight o'clock watching. It was so good. Really funny. And it was a lot more of how we know you through the pod now

rather than Sonia. And, you know, we love Sonia, don't we? But it was so good to see you and your personality. And I just think it's the start of loads more teleprograms that we're going to be seeing you in. So well done. Love the review from Joni as well. And Eliza. And Eliza, we are the right audience and we loved it. So well done. Oh, that's so true though.

It was really nice seeing you as you. Yeah, I think that's why I was nervous because I was completely me. Yeah. I don't know why, because I don't mind being myself. I don't know what it was. But no, it is weird though, isn't it? It's just an actress. There's always something that,

because you are being somebody else. No, I know, but I do quizzes and I enjoy being myself on the pod, so I don't know what it was. I think it was just the, I don't know. But it's the most we've ever seen is you, because when you do quizzes and I enjoy being myself on the pod so I don't know what it was. I think it was just the... But it's the most we've ever seen of you because when you do quizzes and whatever, you've still got the safety of it's not all about you or it's not your life. But this was, you were, you know, it's your show, you were heading it out.

That's true, yeah. Let's have another one. Hi, I'm Natalie, it's Chris from Leicester. I just wanted to say, well, good Natalie Natalie on your new documentary. I've just finished watching the first episode with my carer which is just about to watch a second. Well done, it's a really good show and I hope you do well with all your new ventures. Oh, that's lovely. Thank you so much, Chris. Chris always messages in and he's a really true fan of the show.

So thank you so much for listening, Chris. Thank you. And I'm really pleased you enjoyed it. It was really kind of you. Yes. So my documentary is on Channel 4 at 8 o'clock on Friday evenings. And if you miss it, you can catch up on 4OD. So what else have our listeners been saying?

Oh, I don't know. Yeah, come on. I'm recently new to the podcast but I'm loving it already. I've got you in my ears as I'm doing my housework and I was just listening to what you said about adolescence. It's bizarre. I work for an airline and I've done lots of flights this week, 16 flights in six days and every single

flight as you walk through the cabin, you can see everyone on their computers and devices and tablets all watching different points of adolescence. I've never known it ever in 27 years of flying where people have all been watching the same show like that. So this one must have hit big. We watched it and really, really enjoyed it. Loving the podcast. Thank you. Lots of love. Gary from Bournemouth. Oh, thanks, Gary.

Cheers, girl. It's true. It's been quite incredible. Imagine that on a flight. That just shows you. God, yeah. Because that's lots and lots of people from all over the world all watching the same thing. And I was watching TV with Eva and we watched Goggled Box.

And so it was quite late and we stayed up together and we put Gogglebox on and I said oh my god I don't know actually if I'm gonna watch this with you I don't know if it's suitable because there's some swearing whatever it turned out to be really funny and we did really it's quite nice because now we sit down and we watch shows grown-up shows together and she loves it and it's really nice time together isn't it? It's quality time. It's lovely and she suddenly her eyes have been open because she's like oh my god there's stuff other than like Sea Beebees or Mallory Towers or she's you know seeing other

stuff. And then on Gogglebox they started talking about adolescence and I said to her oh gosh I said actually I'm going to carry on playing this and I told her about the show and then they showed a clip of the third episode when he's talking to the psychologist Yeah, and I said right there's gonna probably be a bit of swearing here But I'm going to play it and we'll watch this together And so I told her why and what it was about and also because of Owen that you know Well, you plays Jamie that he's this is literally his first acting that he's ever done So we sat and we watched a bit together and she couldn't believe it. She was just like, oh my gosh

It's just it's incredible. I've never seen stuff like this before. He is incredible. He's just, you know, and she wants to sit now and watch the whole thing. So I think we are actually going to sit down and watch it together. I think it's good. I really do. Yeah. I'm really enjoying watching stuff with her. It's much better than watching stuff with James. He always falls asleep. She's got a much better attention span. Why is that? Twice this week we've watched telly together and we've ended up waking up

at 3am. Oh my god yes and you feel awful don't you because you wake up with that stuff on the sofa. I don't because I'm used to now having no sleep whatsoever because Bo is still only three and so I'm still used to it. But James, you put him on the sofa, he goes out cold and I don't, I'm not even nice, I literally just go, wake up, wake up and just shout at him and then he'll just like wake up. Does he wake up?

Yeah, yeah, but he goes straight back to sleep. Oh, fair enough, fair enough. I can't get Mark up if he falls asleep. Really? No, I do. Waking up, wake up, wake up, wake up, wake up for ages. Yeah. There's no point now. I go, wake up, wake up and then the next day I say I can't believe you didn't wake me up I said don't even go there tried to wake you up 400 times. Oh my goodness, right? Can I also say to you I have watched last one laugh? Yeah all of it

I sat down with you, we let the kids just run wild in the house Yeah, and mummy and daddy this is the first thing I've watched with James in I don't know how many years. Go on. We said mummy and daddy are just gonna watch something we're shutting the door because they're swearing especially when Danny Dyer comes in and we said just go and play and we sat down we put the first step on James said oh let's just put the first step on just watch all that. Bob did the whole series. I'm so glad that Bob Mortimer won. I know isn't he brilliant! Oh my god what about when he just kept going I know It's magic. Shhh

Oh my god you're just hilarious! Oh my god it's just so so funny What were the other funny things that they did for their like party? Daisy Mae Cooper did the best with the nemesis thing with the hair dryer But who was the one who did their first one? The first one I think made me laugh. What

the hell was the first one? Was it Joe Wilkinson? Oh Jesus, yeah. The speech about the RNLI. About the RNLI and then he had the pain go. Oh God, I was crying. It was just so, so funny. So good. So good. Sarah Pascoe was just, did you see her? She just laughed straight away. It was, she's, they're all brilliant.

Danny Dyer going, what my fucking wand? And then, and then Rob Beckett saying, I thought I was going to have to fight him. And they both commit. Oh my God, I was laughing so much. But Danny Dyer went, I'll bite your fucking nose off. And then Rob Beckett went,

I'll bite your fucking throat out. Oh my God. I mean, they're just like, really like, they were going to literally have to fight! I love the fact that Alison Hammond was in the fridge. It was hilarious. It was a brilliant program. What about Daisy May Cooper and Harriet Kempsey? When they had been doing Danny Dyer as like Harry Potter, they'd been doing impressions of them. And he suddenly walks in, they just looked like two naughty schoolgirls. They really did. They were so...

I loved it. I absolutely loved it. It's addictive. You just have to just keep watching. Really addictive. Well I'll tell you a little tip. Yeah. Eliza sped through last one laughing, the one we've watched. Graham Norton, last one laughing island now. She's on. She said it's hilarious. Oh my gosh, really? Yeah, the Irish version she's onto now. And she said it is absolutely brilliant. Graham Norton presents it. Oh wow. So there you go, again on Amazon Prime. So if you loved it, knock yourself out, there's an Irish version. You know when you were watching, did you play along and try and keep a straight face? No. Because every now and then I'm dead. Did you? And it's impossible because... My favourite face was Rob though because of his teeth. He'd do this sort of...

Yes! Sort of a pout and that just killed me every time. I just thought you were so funny. Oh gosh it was dress. Because he has got a bit of a disadvantage. Yes! Because he has a very prominent, beautiful mouth. Yeah! But I thought bless him, it's hard to have even a smirk you'd know wouldn't you? But it's like so much of just the way that you normally are day to day is

with like a smile or having an open face and and to sort of be like that and not be able to move. Richard. Oh my god but what about when Richard actually went with Bob when he did his laugh? Well that's his favourite comedian like the person that makes him laugh the most. I bet as soon as he saw Bobby Fort, you bastards, put him in with him. Oh God, it was brilliant. It's a brilliant, brilliant program. Joe Wilkinson doing a speech about the RNLI and then God, what did he do? When he emphasized and something or other, something on land and sea or something, he said something like that. it's the way that he said it. I would never hope in hell. But only Jo Wilkinson's mind would think, I know what I'll do, I'll just do a speech

about the RNLI and it'd be hilarious. I love seeing all the different comedians. As you know, I was in my element, Jo. God was so good. And all of their different little, you know, joker points that we have to go up. And Judy, Judy's eyes alone make me laugh so much because she's so good. She was. I mean, she's got the best eyes in comedy. Yeah, oh God. And who did she make laugh now when they were talking about something being,

and she said dry, and that's what like set the and cursed it off. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh God, it was just funny. Lou Sanders, didn't she set herself off? Yes. Yes, and she told the story, didn't she? Yeah.

And yeah, what the hell is the story about? No, it was just very, very good. Oh God, she said, it's hilarious. How about her very, very simple, naughty, taughty? She got about like five of them or something, didn't she? She did really well. She's very naughty. So good. Really good.

Oh yeah, no, if you haven't seen it yet, have a little look. Yeah. Sorry about the spoiler about who won. Oh God, yes. Oh well. Sorry about that. Been out for ages now. Come on, you snooze, you lose.

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Primary phase available to purchase wherever you get your audio books So, oh my gosh, we've been watching a lot of Terry this week. We've been watching Stacey and Jo on BBC iPlayer, Married at First Sight Australia, that's one of Nat's favourite shows ever I think we'll find, which has been on Channel 4, and Get Back, which is about the Beatles, on Disney+. Yeah. What shall we do first?? Oh shall we do Stacey and Joan? Yeah. Let's do it. Oh my god. I've known Joe Swash since I was about nine. Oh my god. We went to Ella's show together and I've known him all the time. I don't see him often now but when I see him obviously I've known him a long long time and that boy has never

changed let me tell you that. Honestly right I've met him once and he was so so lovely. He's a lovely lovely boy. A really really lovely fellow. I don't know why I'm saying boy we're the same age but I still see him as a young per, I feel like a child when I see him because I knew him as a child you know what I mean? Yes. But he is funny, kind, you know. Oh bit silly. Oh my god, she seems so lovely. And Stacey, I think, is just incredible. I think she seems, I've never met her, but she seems so lovely. My god, she's hard working. But also, just so incredibly, like, patient and not laid back, because I'm sure some things must get to her. But I mean, the way that she deals with stuff, I just think is so mature. I do. and I think she is incredibly business minded.

Oh my god and just incredibly. Very very clever lady. I mean you think what she's done. I always say this right, you can say what you want about people but whenever I see somebody like Stacey, like Ryland, where they've come from a reality show. That's what happened all those years ago. And they've created a career in life. She has done so many things and has done so well. She's won awards at the National Television Awards for Sort Your Life Out. She's been nominated for a BAFTA. She's had ranges across so many shops. Her business acumen and what she's achieved, well that's the first thing and then she's got a family to deal with.

Well I know, I mean a huge, lovely family. I mean for starters right, I really enjoyed watching this purely out of, oh my god we all want to see into other people's worlds and their life and I was like oh my god I've seen photos on Instagram, show me the inside of Pickle Cotting. I want to see it, I want to see what your garden's like, I want to see the outside of the house, I want to see how you live. Because from the outside, she's absolutely beautiful and to me she looks just so cute, her hair is lovely, she's so successful and they've got a lovely marriage, they've got the most amazing family. He seems so lovely, but it was really, really lovely looking in and going, oh my god, look,

that's their house, that's their kitchen. I'm loving watching all of this. Did you enjoy her eating a scrambled egg in bed? Oh my god, yes. Did you like that? Did you have a card I read in the bed? Yes! And I liked watching Joe buttering the bread with a spoon. I know, but he always does his cooking stuff online. Yeah. And I love the fact that he loves cooking because he won MasterChef, didn't he?

Yeah, I didn't know he won MasterChef. But it's all normal. Yes, it is. They'll drop stuff and you know, that's what people love about them. Yeah, and you seem so perfect perfect but then you watch it and it made me feel better about my life and how chaotic my life is with like the four kids, the dogs, the guinea pigs and to actually watch that and go oh my god they just feel the same as us, the same stresses, the same bickering, the same you know it just makes you feel so much better seeing somebody else's life

and oh my god but watching them together I just thought was just hilarious. And the fact that she's on the phone and she's like, he's not coming back. He won't be here till 10 o'clock tomorrow morning. Let me tell you something. Yeah. If anybody that I knew, anyone, including yourself, were four hours late to a meeting. I think it was five. Four or five hours, well for me an hour. Yeah. But four or five, I would not talk to you again. I know. You'd be cut out of my life. I swear to God right. But I know Jo. Yeah. And I'm watching thinking that this is just a Jo thing to do. I can't believe right that she was, well you know when he came in right I thought oh my god so she's got this meeting ten o'clock in the morning, thought she's going to do a perfume.

So she's got all of the people there. Really important meeting. Really blinking important meeting. And then she's got her adorable little children. And then the little girl obviously is tired or hungry or you know, just needs, Mummy in just needs a cudge. And she's having to do this big meeting.

And you know, look after the children as well. Joe promised he'd be home 10 o'clock in the morning. And when she's on the phone the night before, she looks at the camera and she just goes, he not coming home is he? And then he turns up five hours I think it is, five hours late. I watched and I thought my god if James did that his life wouldn't be worth living. But they love each other. They just work don't they? Just watching them I thought oh my god this is really good because you know there's this

whole thing on Instagram about let them you know there's the whole if so you can't you know which I've known for years you can't change anybody you can never change anybody else's behavior and so there's a whole thing on Instagram which is you know you can't change people you can't make them be the way that you want them to be so just you know let them let them be the way that they are. I know but you can't be five hours late. Well I couldn't cope with that. But the fact is, he comes in, he's five hours late, she makes her point that she's very cross because it was a very important meeting but then she doesn't carry the argument on and I understood where she was coming from when she said, I can't carry it on because

I haven't got the time. I'm too blinking busy. And me and James are like that, we'll have a massive barney and then more or less the next morning we wake up and we just carry on as normal because I think I can't be arsed with this, I haven't got the time, I'm just too flipping busy. But it was really nice watching that she's not on his back all the time yet, she will, you know, say how she feels and they obviously gel and they really work together. Well listen, they obviously love each other so much.

Yes. And all the kids and like you say, the house is beautiful, isn't it? Oh it's lovely, I love the good old block. It's a lovely house. And I like the dogs. I love a little nose around the home. Yes, yeah. I enjoyed it.

I thought I just, you know. I love Dad. Oh my god, his dad is amazing. What an amazing dad. Dad come round, help me do this, do that and he goes on holiday. He has the kids for a bit. What a lovely dad. She's very lucky. I know, she's really lucky. It was really nice because it just seems such a lovely family

but I also really liked it when her son came in and said, can I have some money for the holidays? Oh yes. And she said have you done your chores? And he said no. And she said well I'm not giving you any money. And then he was like oh come on, come on. And normally you'd imagine that the mum would cave or something, you you'd be in filmed you're on camera and she sticks to it and she says no you haven't done your chores so i'm not giving you any money do your chores next time and then you'll get your money and he just has to go out yeah and i also liked it that when her other son and i think he sort of you know swore it was a bit you know arsey and then i liked it that she said to him you know stop acting like that. Don't worry about who's here.

Yeah, she's like, I don't care if you're being filmed, I am prepared to go there and I'm prepared to have this conversation with you if you don't, you know, stop being like that. Yeah, no, she's obviously a very, very good man. She is. I thought they were lovely. I thought it was interesting. I loved having a good old nose. And I just thought, oh, good on the pair of them. They're lovely. Would you have stuck, um,

vases to your own dining table? Oh my god, no but I would not. I wouldn't have managed to do that. I wouldn't have managed to do that because I thought oh my god, I don't know how she's got the energy and flipping egg, you've got to give it to her because you know, they get the table outside and then she's gluing everything all down and stuff and I thought but you know what I'm like, I'm rubbish. I'd have just gone you know what,'m like I'm rubbish and I've just gone you know what this is my hosting right I've only ever hosted once it was years ago and it was for a New Year's Eve party. Yeah. Every time the doorbell went I would answer the door and I'd go hiya hi come in I really really hate hosting there's drinks in the kitchen

just go and help yourself I just don't want to do any of it and that was my hosting so if you think I would be able to glue flowers to the table I just wouldn't because I'd just be saying to everybody there's drinks over there, go and help yourself, I don't like hosting, let's just have fun. Oh I love hosting. Do you? I can't bear it. I can't bear it.

I did all my Easter decorations at the weekend. Oh I saw. Yeah. I saw and it made me go, oh you know, I'm going to get mine out but I couldn't host. I can't, I can't do it. I don't like it. Would you have stuck the vases on the table? No, I was just really... Because I don't... How have they not damaged the table?

That's all I could think about then for the rest of the show. But if it's an outside table, it might be a table that she uses... No, she brought it out. We looked on Instagram and it is her table. How's she going to get the glue off then? Well, it must be some sort of glue maybe that peels off. Could it be PVA or something? Yeah, because it might be a raucous sort of one. But I was so worried about her her table. How's she going to get the glue off then? Well it must be some sort of glue maybe that peels off, could it be PVA or something? Yeah, because it might be a water source of one. But I was so worried about her poor table, but I thought why am

I worried she does crafting all the time, she knows what she's doing. Yeah, she knows what she's doing. She knows what she's up to. Yeah. No, brilliant, really really good show. Oh my god and I loved the ducks and everything. That was just so sweet. Delilah wasn't it? I can't remember, I don't know. Daisy and Delilah. Oh, and the dogs. I thought it was hilarious that they had the ducks in the living room, because that's the sort of thing that I would do.

I really enjoyed it and it was lovely. Do you know what? I like to see somebody I've known for a long time doing really well. Yeah. Good luck to them. And just a really nice cuppa. Good luck to them.

So, you know, they've got the same things and ups and downs as all of us. And it was really nice getting, you know, they've got the same things and ups and downs as all of us. Yeah. And it's really nice getting, you know, a little glimpse into their life. So you can watch Stacey and Joe on BBC iPlayer, but also episodes are released weekly on Tuesdays at 8pm. Highly recommend it. Right.

Are you ready for Nat's favourite show? I am joking. It's Married at First Sight Australia. This is season 12. Well. There's been 12 of those, yeah? Yes. So I've only ever watched one or two series before, it was the British one. And everybody, whoever you talk to, always goes, no, you need to go in with the Australian one.

I've heard that. Yeah, because that's supposed to be the major one. Yeah people say don't watch the British one. Go in yeah. Australian. Well I watched the first two episodes I'm now on episode four but I watched the first two episodes I was traumatized I can't believe so much happened in two episodes. Well they're four hours long aren't they? Oh my it's about it was about 75 minutes long but I mean well I was just honestly I was flabbergasted. I was, I found it very moving, right? Because people are going into this for all sorts of different reasons.

Are they? No, they are, they really are. There's this one woman called Katie, and it was Katie and Tim getting married, and she was so, so lovely. She grew up on a farm with her parents. Her parents are incredibly loving, really nice. She's a lovely woman, really,

really lovely. And for whatever different reasons, she's been single for about 10 years and it's never ever worked out really. And she's got so much love to give and she's really nice. She's intelligent, she's funny, she's lovely woman. And she just wants a, you know, a Mr. like a Mr. Nice guy, a really nice fella. She's paired with Tim and when he's chatting he's like, all of my other relationships have always been too nice and they complain, you know, that I'm just too nice. And they go together and they're absolutely perfect. And he's so sweet, he's so lovely. And then they have the wedding ceremony. Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Wait a minute.

In the first step. First step. Are they not all chatting for a couple of episodes? No. So the breakdown of it is that it's all of these women, all of these men, they've never ever seen each other. Sorry, just so you know, so everybody knows, I put it on for ten minutes and I turn it off. Because it's just not for me. I can't sit and watch. I haven't got the time.

It's actually right. It's not like Love Island and those kind of ones. It's these men and these women and they've each gone into this experiment for different reasons. Like one fella, he's British actually, but he's out in Australia. He never ever had anything really to do with his birth father and because of that, that sort of made him very guarded and he's never really had any relationships that have lasted or been in love because he feels that he's got his guard up all the time and he can't bring that down because he's frightened of not being loved. Rejection. Yeah, frightened of rejection. I understand. So he said, I'm going into this experiment

because I need to, you know, I need to break through that. I need something to change. That's fair enough. I want to get married. I want to have children. I don't want my non-relationship with my father to stop me from having that in life. So it's more of an experiment and they chat to these three relationship therapists and they talk to them. They say what their non-negotiables are. I've seen a few British ones just so you know. Oh right. I have seen, you know, I'm not here being blinkered and ridiculous, it's just not really for me but continue. And so they chat to the experts saying these are my non-negotiables, I want to have children, you know, this is my thing, and then they chat about all the things that they want and then they leave it up to these experts to go right, okay, I'm going to put you with this person and they think that they're a good suit. They've got the right same morals, the same ideas, what they want

out of life. And then very first episode, they, you know, that he's standing at the altar and with his back to her and then she starts walking down the altar. He turns around. This is the first time they ever see each other. Yes. They get married. Yeah. And then they go off on honeymoon. And then they come back from honeymoon. And I'm assuming then that they start living with each other and then they carry on, you know, and then they go off on honeymoon, and then they come back from honeymoon, and I'm assuming then that they start living with each other and then they carry on, you know, and then they keep checking in and seeing what's happening. Oh my god, there's Tim and Katie, they do that, they do the wedding ceremony, and they are literally perfect. And what's insane is that he said, I'm really going to put everything into this experiment. Yes, I know there might not be a spark to begin with, but you know, I'm putting my hands into the experts and I'm going to go along

with it and see what happens. And then suddenly you see he's off down the field talking to the producer going, what the fuck? How do I get out of this? I mean, I was, I was just so shocked, just so shocked. And then she sits down with him through the day and says, look, I'm going to be honest with you. Is there something wrong? This is what I'm getting from you. And then he just lies to her and says, oh no, no, there's nothing wrong at all. And she goes, oh, okay, well, you know, it's good to know that because I was thinking that you just don't actually like me. You're a pair of balls, Tim. Yeah, you should have just been honest with her. And if you're going to do an experiment

and sign up for a couple of months of it, on the telly, why don't you just do it? There's this other one. Honestly, I could talk about this this all day I love how passionate you are about this Joe Lauren and Elliot I mean people love this show honest to God right listeners listeners please right phone in and give us your voice notes because because I need someone to talk about this with right because literally I'm just giving them on a long tonight because I can't stop talking about it. I'm loving it. The only thing I think about this show are the weddings. So I think if I could just clip up each wedding ceremony to watch all the family members getting pissed and embarrassed

and then them saying I'm off, I might find that entertaining but I can't do all of it. Each episode is long, I think it's about 75 minutes or something but I think if you are Married at First Sight fan then my god you're gonna love this because I'm just hooked now and you can watch all of it on Channel 4. All of it on Channel 4, I'm on episode 4 by the end of today I'm probably gonna finish the series. Well good luck to the people whose genre this is. I hope you enjoy it. Alright, now tell me all about Get Back.

Well, I've been having a go at you about how long maths is. Get Back on Disney Plus is about eight hours long. Is that eight hours and one long stretch? No, it's three episodes. How long is each episode then? Sort of two and a half to three hours. Jesus Christ! Yeah.

This came out in 2021. Oh my God. Or 22. And I don't know where I've been. Oh my God. I think I've been under a rock. That's how busy I've been. I remember seeing about it and I think someone said to me, it's really, really long and I've just completely forgotten about it. Thank you to Off the Telly. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I can't talk about it without crying. Are you serious?

No, I can't talk about it. It's the best, one of the best things I've ever seen. Oh my God, because I haven't watched it because I didn't have time, because I was watching so much maths. I'm sat, I've been sat, I've turned the light off in the lounge as if it's the cinema, and I've just been in there on my own with a glass of wine and I feel like I'm in the room with the Beatles. Oh my god. You feel like you are in there with them having the conversation. It is so good so all of the material because I know it sounds really silly but a part of me was like I don't

understand why we're seeing this now yeah where's it been but it was basically locked up in a vault 60 hours of telling James has been asking me to watch it for well it turns out now years and I've always gone no no because in my head I've just got an idea that it's just a documentary about the beat yeah so it's all you think it's all clipped up. What is that? No, it is back in 1969, there was a few weeks where they came up with this idea to write an album, record an album and then perform the album live. And this was the documentary before it. Oh my god. So it's hours and hours and hours of them arriving at the studio, having a cup of tea, chatting away. Peter Sellers walks in at one point and has a chat with them. Yoko's there with John, Linda's there with Paul. And then suddenly, even down to what they're wearing and they're tapping their feet, you're just seeing the four of them as human beings.

Oh my God, yeah. Even though they know it's being filmed, they were quite clever about it apparently, so they'd be really strumming their guitar or having a load of reverb and then talking. But in this day and age, what Peter Jackson has been able to do is take away all the music so you can hear everything. Yeah. music so you can hear everything. Paul McCartney comes in and then he goes, oh I just thought of this last night and he just starts playing Let It Be, like my eyes are watering and genuinely you go, oh my god, am I watching Let It Be be written? Is that what I'm doing now?

Oh my god, yeah. It is, because I can't quite believe what I'm doing now? Oh my god, yeah. And that's what it is, because you can't, I can't quite believe what I'm watching. Oh my god, right, I'm gonna have to sit down with James and watch this. Of course it's slow, but it needs to be slow, it just has a pace about it, but you feel like you're in Twickenham Studio, which is where they run every day, and in those four walls they've got, you know, a road manager, the project, so people are just walking about, men in suits and they'll all just be having a chat going well why don't we go to, I don't know, wherever they, they're saying why don't we go aboard and do it and we can do it here and they're going nah nah and then you know George Harrison will just be sat there and he'll be like hey did you see that show last night?

And they're just talking about the telly. It's blowing my mind. I'm gonna have to watch it. I've done the first one and I'm halfway through the second and all I want to do is just sit in a dark room and watch it and just transport myself back to 1969. There's a part where George Harrison, he writes his diary so you can see his diary and it's like, went for a walk, did that, did that. Oh, I left the Beatles today. Oh my God. And then he walks out at one point. And they have to go to George and they're all going, oh, we went to George's, it didn't work. Then they go to a cafe. John and Paul are sat in a cafe and they record the conversation secretly where they've hidden a microphone in a vase

or something, which is dodgy, right? But you can hear their conversation about just them and their feelings and George and it's just brilliant. And I think so far what's come out of it is they're just four really decent human beings but they were the most famous people in the world so you're seeing them just as real people set in a studio together and Paul McCartney reminds me of how I would have been if I was in The Beatles. You would have been, I think, a bit more... You would have been. You could have been a bit George. You could have been like, that's it, I'm going home. Yeah.

If you got a bit pissed off, I think. Yeah. But you're more... I wouldn't say you're John, because John was quite late, like walking in with Yoko. Yeah. I'd never, ever have been late. I would always be on time. Yeah, absolutely. Maybe you are a bit Paul but I'm annoyed. I feel like I'm a bit annoying. I'll be like, oh what's the schedule? Yeah, I want to be like that. What are we doing? Yeah. So Paul's a bit like, he's like come on we've got two weeks here.

This is going to be a shambles if we don't start writing stuff. That's you. You'd be like that. So that's what I would be like. We've just been like that half an hour ago trying to organise our diaries. Yeah, now I know. And when you were doing that, right, I was having to go, oh, you know that date that we said we were going to do such and such, which is what we arranged last time we met up, right. I still haven't written it in the diary and I've had to re-ask you for what we arranged last time we were doing our diaries and I've only just put it in now. I think you're a bit more John-like. Do you think so? But I don't want to, not the late aspect. Yeah. Do you know what I mean? Because you're a bit more John like. Do you think so? Not the late aspect,

do you know what I mean? Just the laid back. But very laid back, yeah. But it's fascinating, the clothes they're wearing, just Linda cuddling porn, they're chatting or Linda's taking pictures of the band. It's absolutely fascinating and I've always been a Beatles fan. I've always loved the Beatles from Sgt Pepper and I had the Red and the Blue albums, my dad had them on record but since watching, I just want to go all the way back, I want to learn more about them. I think I could become Beatles obsessed. Really? Yeah.

Jesus. Because everything came from them. Did it? So much of our music came from them. Their sound or their independence or them saying we're going to do what we want to do with our label. And everything they did was experiment, you know what I mean? Yeah. So much came from them.

One point they're chatting and they're like, oh what should we do if George doesn't come back? And they're like, oh we just have to get Eric. And they're talking about Eric Clapton. Really? Oh my god. It's really brilliant. I think you've sold it to me. James has been trying for years, but I genuinely think I'm gonna watch it because that just sounds fascinating. I've always had just ideas that it's like a documentary about the Beatles, so it's somebody doing the voiceover and then you just see clips

put together and whatever. And everybody's always said it it's amazing but I didn't think that it was actual footage of them and you can actually see how the music is just being formed and just coming together. You know, they'll go, Should we, uh, and you're going, oh my god, I know the song you're doing now. Oh my god, that's amazing. It's really good, really good. I highly recommend it, highly highly. If you're a music lover, if you're into that sort of thing, you know I've always loved my music so so much. Yeah. So do you have to be a music lover or is it

fascinating just watching them? I can't tell you that because again, if it was about, I don't know, if it was about a fashion designer maybe and I didn't love fashion and they were going through what dress they were going to design and you really knew it. Do you know what? I don't really know. I can't really answer. I mean, my God, it is like it's the Beatles, isn't it? It's the Beatles. I mean, it's the Beatles. My god. It's the Beatles in a warehouse. It's blowing my mind. I truly,

I recommend it to anyone. I know it's long, but even just putting on half an hour at a time. And my mate Jamie, do you remember Jamie Balfour, who we chatted to, who was on Strictly? Yes. I actually phoned him last night and it was about 20 to 11. I said, Jamie, I've just got to talk to you. You know the get back thing that you've always said that you absolutely loved because he loves his music. And he went don't phone me up at that time when he passed 20 to 11 at night. Don't phone me at 20 to 11 at night and tell me you're watching it. I said I'm he went I've got it on now. Oh my god are you serious?

Yeah he said I've got it on now but he said he just now goes home and that's what he puts on. Oh my God. He just puts it on because I said I have to talk to you about it because I can't quite believe what I'm watching and he I know how much he loves it so then we had a 20 minute conversation about it. Wow okay I'm gonna watch it. It's fascinating. Because they're making that film aren't they? Yes. And is that about this or is it just about the Beatles in general? I think it's just a new Beatles film. So I don't know if it's about this or not. Can you imagine right, would you like to do something like that? Because I mean can you imagine as an actor the phone goes and your agent's there and then goes yes you have got the part of Paul McCartney. I'm

gonna play Ringo Starr. You'd be like, but you'd be over the moon, wouldn't you? And then I bet the fear would set in. You'd be like, Jesus Christ, can you imagine? Can you imagine the pressure? I haven't seen it yet. Have you seen the new Dylan with Timothée Chalamet? No, no, I haven't. I really want to see that because I've watched a lot of Dylan documentaries as well. Yeah. Because I do like all this sort of stuff. Yeah. But I can't wait to watch that because apparently it's fantastic in it but again anyone that you're doing that is so famous there's got to be so much pressure.

So there's this new film it's directed by Sam Mendes they've not started filming it yet but the castings just been announced Paul Meskell you know from Normal People I don't think you've seen it have you? Yes. Oh have you seen Normal People? Well you watched it for this. No see look you're talking about One Day. One Day. No, hold on. We haven't done Normal People. Well Paul Meskell, the main fella in that, is playing Paul McCartney.

Amazing. Harris Dickinson who is in Baby Girl opposite Nicole Kidman, the film out at the moment. He's playing John Lennon. Barry Keegan you know from Saltburn the fella in that. He's Ringo. You're very good at the telly aren't you? Yes. You're very good at people. Oh I'm good. I remember facing him. You're excellent.

And Joseph Quinn who's in Stranger Things, he is playing George. So I mean the cracking list of actors, I can't wait. What a great... I mean can you imagine, I bet they'll have fun working on that. So much fun. What an experience. Yeah, I wonder if it goes from the early day, you don't know what point or maybe it's all of it. It's four films, four Beatles films and so each Beatle is having their own story like is the main one and the other ones are all featuring in it. Imagine what a gig that is. You've got the part of Ringo Starr and it's four films.

Be rubbing your hands together. The main part in one of them and the rest of them you'll be around, you'll just be drumming. Yeah you'll be drummingming you can have a laugh I mean in the documentary he just honestly yeah he's amazing he's just sat at the drums like everyone's chatting away they're all doing their thing and he just sits there doesn't say a lot and then just plays the drums whenever he's there oh god that's amazing he's quite an incredible man oh god I really want to watch this. Yeah, I just am obsessed with it. I think it's brilliant.

Oh my God. Yeah. So there we go. You can watch all of Get Back on Disney Plus. Now before we go, we've got time to hear recommendation from a listener. So let's play it because we love our recommendations. Hi Nat, hi Jo.

Just wanted to send you a message about a show you need to watch with Sean Bean. It's called This City Is Ours set in Liverpool around gangsters. It's really good. It started about a week ago on BBC iPlayer and we've binged it every night coming home for kids to bed, on the telly, watched it. Um, I've told everyone about it in work, all the families, like a domino effect. I need everyone to catch up so I can talk about it, but it's really, really good. Anything with Sean Bean is amazing. Um, but yeah, it's really good watch.

So worth it. An hour long episode, eight episodes. I know you have a lot of telly to get through, um, but it's a really good series and I stumbled across it and wow. Fab! Sounds good to me. That's the one that my parents have been watching and they said they absolutely loved it. Should we do that next week? Yes definitely. Let's do it next week. Thank you for your recommendation. Not only good for us but good you know for our other listeners isn't it? Absolutely yes so please do keep sending them in. Oh also we are dropping our next bonus episode all about your favourite plot twists on

Friday so look out for that we can't wait for that one oh my god I'm quite excited to hear about all these plot twists. So am I because I've been having to think about it yeah and I can't really think of any to talk about I know because I just watch a. I don't know how you talk about a plot twist, but our listeners are so clever. Yes. That I'm sure they're going to bring a lot to the table. Right, I'm off to go and think about my plot twists. You haven't gone at that. I thought you were going to say eyelashes. Don't do it. No, no. You've warned me not to do it and Claire, the costume designer, no she said to Rob Brydon warned me not to do it and Claire, the costume designer, no she said to Rob Brydon warned me not to do it. So I'm not getting these eyelashes changed.

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