Off The Telly - Is your caravan a Tardis?

Episode Date: April 10, 2024

What are we watching? Natalie Cassidy and Joanna Page chat about all things telly.Nat and Jo chat about Taskmaster, Nat's fave panel show, The British Airways Killer and The Gentlemen, a new drama ser...ies from Guy Ritchie.In Off the Telly, Natalie and Jo talk about what they can’t stop watching, what they definitely aren’t going to bother with, and what you’re all watching at home. From new shows to comfort telly to guilty pleasures, there’s no judgement here. What’s kept us all glued to our screens this week?Self-confessed TV addicts and stars of two of the biggest shows on our screens, EastEnders and Gavin and Stacey, Natalie and Joanna are the perfect companions to your weekly viewing habits. Get in touch by sending us a message or voice note via WhatsApp to 03306 784704.Hosts: Natalie Cassidy and Joanna Page Producer: Georgia Keating Executive Producer: Richard Morris Commissioning Editor: Rhian Roberts Unit Manager: Lucy Bannister Sounds Editor: Arlie Adlington Music by MCassoOff The Telly is a BBC Studios Production for BBC Sounds.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 BBC Sounds, music, radio, podcasts. Hello! And welcome to Off The Telly from BBC Sounds. I'm Natalie Cassidy. And I'm Joanna Page. And this is the podcast where we talk telly. Remember, there might be a little bit of swearing in here and we are going to be talking about programmes,
Starting point is 00:00:23 so there might be a few spoilers. So listen out and if there's a programme that you haven't watched yet, put it on pause. So, how was your Easter? Beautiful. Was it nice? We drove to Cornwall. Oh my gosh, I was looking at your stuff on Instagram.
Starting point is 00:00:40 It looked amazing. We had a beautiful four days, family time, phone away. It was really, really, really lovely. I ate chocolate eggs, lots of walks. Weather was a bit changeable, you know. But we still had sun. And we had a lovely time. How was
Starting point is 00:00:58 yours? Oh, it was really nice. We went down to the caravan, which we've had since 2009. We first got it when it was just me, James and the dog. And now it's me and James, two Spaniards and four kids. Yeah. So you can imagine. Have you extended the caravan?
Starting point is 00:01:12 No, it's exactly the same size. Okay. So it's a TARDIS? Yes. Has it been on Doctor Who? No, but it could be. It's some sort of alien creature because it's so old now. But, oh, it was lovely.
Starting point is 00:01:24 We were just down the beach, had loads of chocolate. It was quite nice being in the rain. Yeah. Yeah, but then also I was cutting my own fringe. I am in the midst of cutting, the trauma of cutting my own fringe. I had my hair trimmed recently. Yeah. And I decided to try, you know, like one of those sophisticated graduated kind of fringes.
Starting point is 00:01:48 Bangs. Yes. You know, and they go by there and you see other people and I don't know, right, they go there and they just sort of are on their face. And I've realised I don't like anything on my face. I just keep on moving it all the time. Yeah. And so as soon as it was done, I was like that, oh my gosh, just wanting to move it all the time. And I then thought, instead of just going to the hairdressers and getting it sorted, I started having a go at it with the kitchen scissors.
Starting point is 00:02:11 Now I'm on the process of, should I just go to a hairdresser's and just get them to cut me just a big fringe? Well, I was just going to ask you, are you a hairdresser? No. Oh, so you're just cutting your hair. Yeah, but I have, when I first met James, he let me cut his hair. I've always cut my daughter's hair. And I've cut my daughter's hair and I've cut my mother's hair and I've cut my father's hair and I shaved the dogs recently and it wasn't even over COVID.
Starting point is 00:02:33 I just shaved the dogs because I was fed up waiting for an appointment for them to get their hair cut. So I went and got James's hair trimmers that he got during lockdown and I shaved the dogs and it was absolutely fine. They came up really good. Well, in my eyes, it sounds like you're a dog groomer, a barber and a hairdresser.
Starting point is 00:02:49 So I think you're absolutely qualified to cut your own fringe. And do you know what I did, right? Years ago, I actually wrote myself a note saying, Jo, remember this moment, don't ever get a fringe cut.
Starting point is 00:03:04 And I folded that up and I put it in my drawer years ago so that I knew that in years to come when I would go, oh, I want a fringe, I fancy a fringe, I would go to that drawer, open out, take the note out and read it and go, this is reminding you why you shouldn't get a fringe cut. Well, I'll tell you one thing and I'm going to tell you now. That looks lovely. Do you think so?
Starting point is 00:03:23 Yes, I do. Oh, my God. Well, I don't know if I'm going to tell you now. That looks lovely. Do you think so? Yes, I do. Oh, my God. Well, I don't know if I'm rocking a bit of a 1980s vibe, because I feel a bit like I should be in Guns N' Roses or something. No, I think it softens you. Yeah. I think you've done a fab job. Well, when you see me next week, I might have gone even heavier with it.
Starting point is 00:03:39 Right, shall we get on with it? Yes. Shall we find out what our lovely listeners have been saying? Oh, yes. We've had so many messages thank you so much honestly bowled over aren't we i know it's so lovely when you're sending us things because it's really nice when you recommend things and just to know that you've been listening to us it's lovely isn't it it's really nice and i've had loads of messages on instagram yeah just saying
Starting point is 00:04:02 you're really enjoying it and all my sort of messages so thank you for those as well because we can't read them all out because that would be the pod just reading out messages
Starting point is 00:04:10 well it would wouldn't it it would I quite like this voice note that we have had go on a few people have
Starting point is 00:04:16 got in touch to say they agree with Jo about eating in bed about flipping time we've got a voice note from Abbey in South Wales come on Abbey give it to us. I've had to stop the podcast just to come on here
Starting point is 00:04:28 and tell you that I am 100% with you in regards to eating in bed. And one time I even ate a whole Toby Carvery whilst in the bath. Oh, my God. In the bath? She ate a whole Toby Carvery in the bath? Oh, my God. Is the bath. She ate a whole Toby Carvery in the bath. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:04:46 Is that like a surf and turf? She's from South... What is it with you lot? I haven't had a Toby Carvery in the bath. In the bath. That leads me to think, does she have one of those wooden things? She's got a wooden tray, hasn't she? She might have one of those nice ones that you can get on Instagram
Starting point is 00:05:03 and you can put a wine glass in as well. I've got one of them. Have you? Yeah. Where did you get it from? I got it as a present. God, is it good? I never get in the bath.
Starting point is 00:05:11 I'm sorry, right? No, but when I'm thinking about this, I'm thinking about Yorkshire puddings slopping in the bubbles. Can you imagine? No, but you, right, you will not even eat crisps or have any form of food in the bed or in the living room whilst you're watching even like a christmas special over christmas but yet you will sit in the bath which is where you were going to get clean and you will put a tray across with like a wine glass and then food no
Starting point is 00:05:38 did i mention food so it's just wine she's making things now. She thinks I'm having a full-on curry in the bath. Is it just wine? Just alcohol in the bath? Just liquids. Oh, my God. I've never said that I don't have a liquid in bed. Oh. Have I?
Starting point is 00:05:56 No, you haven't. No, I haven't. Oh, well, you have a glass of wine in bed. Depends, yeah. Oh, my gosh. Wow. Yeah. Little Baileys at Christmas In bed? Well I've never had a Baileys in bed
Starting point is 00:06:11 Well there you go Oh thanks listeners You've let me know the show I was talking about Where this fella's been Well, the show, the true crime one That I wrapped all of my Christmas presents to. Oh, yes. Yeah, listeners have got in touch and they have found out
Starting point is 00:06:28 that the true crime show I was describing a couple of weeks ago was called The Jinx, The Life and Deaths of Robert Durst. And you can watch it on now. It's fab. I highly recommend it. Brilliant. Get a glass of sherry, wrap a few presents, it'll take the edge off it. Very good.
Starting point is 00:06:46 Loads of people love the Easter special and we have had so many messages from people about it for us to read out this week, which is just fantastic. This one's from a listener. Morning, I've just listened to your Easter special. It was fantastic as usual. It makes me feel like I'm having a sit down with friends. You make me smile and laugh so much.
Starting point is 00:07:05 Thank you. I'm happy to sign a petition for Miss Marple and Cook spin off. I think that's a good idea. We could start one, couldn't we? We could. Look, this is also from another listener. Go on. Love the vicar of Dibley.
Starting point is 00:07:18 Yes. Would totally watch Joe as Marple and Nat as the sidekick. No problem at all with Marple being a bit younger. This sounds wonderful. Do it. Wow. We need to copy and paste all these and chuck them into the BBC.
Starting point is 00:07:31 We do. We really do, don't we? Yeah. Yeah. Copy and paste the lot, send them all in. Just knock on the door. Yeah. This one is from Emily.
Starting point is 00:07:42 Hi, Joe and Nat. Absolutely loving the podcast. It's like listening to friends having a good old natter. I really enjoyed listening to you talking about The Vicar of Dibley. It was a family favourite growing up. Real comfort viewing. I now have even fonder memories of it as an adult as I watch back-to-back episodes when I was in labour
Starting point is 00:07:59 with my daughter four years ago. Oh, bless you. Who knew laughing at Geraldine's antics was good for dilation? A quick recommendation. There's a new series of Race Across the World starting next week. Definitely worth a watch. Emily, now, I've not watched Race Across the World.
Starting point is 00:08:16 Ever? No, I have. I've watched one, but I've not watched a full series. But that looks really good. Oh my god, it's brilliant. I watched the last one and, oh my gosh, it's brilliant. It's brilliant. one. Yeah. And, oh, my gosh, it's brilliant. It's brilliant. I didn't watch the last bit. I've been asked to do it.
Starting point is 00:08:28 No way. I was asked to do the celeb special. Who were you going to do it with? I'm never going to do it. No, but, like, you have to have a member of the family and stuff. No, but in a dream world, you'd go away and I'd do it with Mark. Oh, my God. I'd just go away.
Starting point is 00:08:39 But when you've got small children, it's never such a long time, isn't it? How long is it? I don't know exactly. Is it like a month? Three and a half weeks, a month. It's a long time. But what a lovely experience to go over the world. Very good recommendation. Oh, definitely.
Starting point is 00:08:54 We could have a little look at it, couldn't we? Oh, I'd love to. So thank you, Emily. Yeah. So what shows are we talking about today? Well, we have got one of my faves, Taskmaster, on Channel 4. We've got a true crime recommendation called The British Airways Killer on ITVX. What shows are we talking about today? Well, we have got one of my faves, Taskmaster, on Channel 4. We've got a true crime recommendation called The British Airways Killer on ITVX and the new Guy Ritchie series called The Gentleman on Netflix.
Starting point is 00:09:12 Let's get into it, shall we? Right, we are on to show one. Oh, my God. Well, I am a virgin Task... Well, a Taskmaster virgin. I can't wait to hear all about it. We've got to thank our listener, Jane, once again for recommending this last week. And, yeah, it's amazing, isn't it, that you've never seen it? I've never seen it.
Starting point is 00:09:33 I really like it. It's like the true crime thing with me the other way around. I really, I can't wait to hear what you thought about it. Summarise the show for the listeners, and you are much more informed to be able to tell everybody what it's about. So, essentially, Taskmaster runs for a whole series with the same five people in it usually comedians and each week they all get ridiculous tasks to finish and they get points you know there's a point system like one to five and greg davis is ruthless, really funny about it and it could be from bringing in your favourite book, which is rude,
Starting point is 00:10:08 to climbing up a mountain and jumping out of something because it's all about how you perceive the task. And it is absolutely, it's such a fun show. Tell me what you think. Oh my God, it's brilliant. So I had never seen it before. We're on series 17. Didn't know any, well, I knew of the show, but didn't know anything about it and I'd never, ever seen it before we're on series 17 didn't know any well I knew of the show
Starting point is 00:10:25 but didn't know anything about it and I'd never ever seen it it started and I just loved them all I loved Greg Davis and what's the name of the other comedian
Starting point is 00:10:34 who's with him now Little Alex Horne Little Alex Horne the pair of them together are just absolutely hilarious and Greg is so frightening as well but in a really lovely way but like he really lovely way.
Starting point is 00:10:47 But he really is the powerful, sitting there in his throne. The master. Yeah, he is the master. Oh my God, it was just absolutely brilliant because I didn't have a clue about what was going to happen. And it first of all started when they each had to bring something in which sounded like Greg Davis.
Starting point is 00:11:02 Greg Davis. And I was thinking, oh my God, what would I have chosen? It was just brilliant. And I was thinking, oh my God, what would I have chosen? What would I have chosen? It was just brilliant. And I just loved that Steve Pemberton brought in... It was so good, wasn't it? Greg Davis.
Starting point is 00:11:13 I'm so pleased he won the five points. He was flipping brilliant. But can I just say, Steve Pemberton, I am a huge fan. I mean, his body of work and what he's done. I wouldn't be able to be on the show with him because I would just be staring at him all the time. Because even talking about him, it makes my eyes water. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:29 I mean, you just think of all of the League of Gentlemen stuff, obviously all of his work, but I would just be like, oh, my God, all of the League of... I would sit there and I would just be staring at him. But that's why this show's magic, because you're watching him and you're thinking, we can see a bit of his brain. Yes. You can see him in real life.
Starting point is 00:11:44 And you're thinking, this is brilliant. You've really thought about it. You're really involved. Exactly how I would expect Steve to play the game. Yeah, and it's amazing because I do feel like I'm watching him as a real-life person. And you are sort of getting an idea into what he is like as a real-life person because he's being himself
Starting point is 00:11:58 and he's got to come up with a solution to all the different puzzles. It slightly freaked me out because I thought oh my god this is like being in drama school I don't know if I'd be able to do it because you know the bit where they have to walk into a room and then there's just an egg on the table and then you sit down and you pick the thing up and it's like you must do the most dangerous thing you can think of with the egg I was like oh my god that's like being in drama school where you would have to walk into a room or walk on the stage and there's just a chair and they and you'd
Starting point is 00:12:24 have to walk on and you've got five minutes but you've got to walk into a room or walk on the stage and there's just a chair and you'd have to walk on and you've got five minutes, but you've got to come up with just something and that would just, I'd just freak out. I'd always be like, oh my God, oh my God, what am I going to do? And so I was just like, oh God, what are they all going to do? It's just, it's brilliant. It's great.
Starting point is 00:12:34 I'll tell you what I love about it. You can be absolutely fantastic at it. Someone like Steve who would make a little film up or you know what I mean? Or John's really good, John Robbins. And you can tell he's really using his brain. Yeah. They're all using their brain.
Starting point is 00:12:48 Yeah. But Sophie... She's amazing. Yeah, Sophie Whelan. Yeah. I was on The Weakest Link with her, Christmas special a little while ago. What was she like?
Starting point is 00:12:57 She was really lovely. She was a big fairy. We all dressed up. What were you with Hugo as? Mrs Christmas. Oh. I was really hot. I was in a lot of velvet. You must have been bloody body weight. It was like a panto one. What were you watching Hugo as? Mrs Christmas. Oh. I was really hot. I was in a lot of velvet.
Starting point is 00:13:06 You must have been bloody body weight. I was absolutely sweaty. Anyway, she was on it and she was really, really good in my view. But on the show, you can tell that she is, I would be so, like not quite sure what to do and whatever. Yeah. But no one looks silly. No, it doesn't matter what you do.
Starting point is 00:13:25 Because it's just about personality. And actually, she is the most entertaining. She is. She's brilliant. I chose to watch it with the kids because I watched it, first of all, on my own. And I was like, oh my God, this is brilliant. And then the kids were asking if they could watch it. And I knew that they'd enjoy it.
Starting point is 00:13:42 And I thought, God, I don't think there's been that much swearing. I did exactly the same, by the way. Did you? I'm with you. Oh, it makes me feel better. I let Joanie seven. Oh, good! Oh my God, that's brilliant. I said, come and sit down they absolutely... What about the bit where we were all okay and it was the odd F word and I was kind of like, right, close your ears, you know
Starting point is 00:13:59 that you don't say things like that and we were all fine until it got to the bit where Alex Horne said about Joanne saying with the egg that she was going to pin it up against the wall and fuck it. And I was kind of like, she was going to fuck it up against the wall. And I was kind of like, I've destroyed my children's life. No, do you know what? I did the same. And you know what else?
Starting point is 00:14:17 What? We finished it and they were like, we love this programme. Yeah. And I said, oh, it's good, isn't it? And every time there was a swear word, Joanie was elbowing me. But really hurting me. And I was like, I'm not swearing. But she knows, you know.
Starting point is 00:14:29 And I said, you know. Yeah. She knows it's bad. So then we've turned it off. I went, it's brilliant. I said, and we will watch it. I look at the thing, whatever it is, four. Yes.
Starting point is 00:14:41 There's a bleeped version. Yeah. We ended up watching that again. Next time I will. We're like, oh my God, I can't believe there's a bleeped version. But aren't they clever doing a bleeped version. Yeah, we ended up watching that again. Well, yes, next time I will. We're like, oh my God, I can't believe there's a bleeped version. But aren't they clever doing a bleeped version because they know it's a family show.
Starting point is 00:14:50 It is. It really, really is. The kids absolutely love it. But every time there's a swear word on anything, and I don't let them watch stuff with loads of swear words, but if there's a swear word, they all just stare at me because they know that I'm like,
Starting point is 00:15:01 don't say things like that. Close your ears to that. There was one time, oh my God, we were watching the Spider-Man film and it got to the end of the film and I don't give a, and then it cut off the film and that's how it ended. And I think it was a PG or a 12. And I was like, I mean, the kids are like, you know, that's like a PG and they think that that is suitable. And I said to them, oh kids, I think that's really quite bad. And I turned the television off when I pressed like back up and it went straight up onto like UK Gold
Starting point is 00:15:27 or something. And I said, oh kids, you know that that's not very nice and Mummy didn't agree with that. UK Gold came on. It was a scene from Series 2 between Stacey and Gavin. There was a big close-up and I went, I don't give a shit, Gav. And the kids went, Mummy, you just won.
Starting point is 00:15:43 And I switched it off and went, well, that's a lesson to all of us. I can't believe it. The timing was, like, amazing. Oh, that's brilliant. That's absolutely brilliant. See, I don't have that problem. Yes. Because EastEnders is pre-watershed.
Starting point is 00:15:58 Yes. Have you ever had to swear on anything? No. No, I just swear like a trooper in real life. I have now been hunting down episodes of this now and I saw one the other day
Starting point is 00:16:10 with Carol Vorderman and she wasn't allowed to bend her legs and they were going around trying to get fish food and put that like in a bowl
Starting point is 00:16:19 and everything and so that was like really good but oh my god with the other one that I watched the first episode of series 17 when it got to the end with the other one that I watched the first episode of series 17
Starting point is 00:16:25 when it got to the end with the sexy sausage yes all of the kids were going we want to watch because I said I don't know if it's suitable for you there's a bit with a sexy sausage at the end
Starting point is 00:16:33 I thought exactly the same I was there thinking oh no they're just going to make it a cock aren't they oh my god I didn't even think of that immediately I thought oh I don't think this is okay
Starting point is 00:16:42 oh my god they could have just turned it into a big willy and balls. I didn't think of that. The fact that Steve Benford said I've put braids on it. He could have turned it into a willy and balls and instead he put flats on it. But I was quite worried about when
Starting point is 00:16:59 Joanne said, and it's got a gimp mask on. So when she said that, I made sure I coughed over that. I know, but your kids are not going to know what that is. No, but what if they go into school and they say we were watching something on TV and a sausage, we're wearing a gimp mask. That's true. Anyway, isn't it a good show?
Starting point is 00:17:17 It's really good. I'm loving it. I can't wait for the next episode. And do you know what's brilliant? Now you've discovered it. It's one of those things that you can chuck on at any point. Yeah. Especially with the kit for the bleep version? Now you've discovered it. It's one of those things that you can chuck on at any point. Yeah. Especially with the kit for the bleep version.
Starting point is 00:17:26 But my kids loved it. It's really good. I highly recommend it to you all. It's just really good, silly fun. Let us know what you think. Let us know if you like it. Let us know who your faves are. Let us know how many series you've watched or if it's your first time.
Starting point is 00:17:39 Let us know. You can watch it on Channel 4 every Thursday. So this next show that we're talking about is The British Airways Killer. And it's all about an airline pilot who very sadly killed his wife back in 2010. And this is a documentary about what happened and how he got convicted. And just a little warning, obviously I've not watched a lot of true crime, but this is such a serious subject and obviously a true story that just brace yourself before watching it.
Starting point is 00:18:11 It's really interesting and really informative, but it is very, very sad. So I watched it on ITVX and it's two episodes and I hadn't heard that this documentary had been made, so I hadn't heard about it. And so I was really shocked when I started watching because obviously this case has been in the news recently. So I couldn't believe that it was about that. And, oh, my God, it was...
Starting point is 00:18:34 Well, I just found it absolutely heartbreaking. Well, obviously this has been an ongoing thing with trying to find something within the true crime genre that not... Enjoy is a really odd word for these sorts of programmes. I wouldn't say enjoy it. Yeah. But something that I can sit in the stomach and watch.
Starting point is 00:18:51 Yeah. And I suppose enjoy. Yeah. So Daniel recommended this as a good gateway for me to come through and a good start. Yeah. Daniel, you were absolutely right. I loved it.
Starting point is 00:19:04 It's so well made, isn't it? I thought... It's just, God. I'm not saying... I really find it uncomfortable talking about these programmes because I don't want to say I loved it or it was brilliant. It's really weird. But all I can say is I wanted to watch it.
Starting point is 00:19:17 I didn't want to switch it off. I think because there was only two... Yes. ..that didn't sort of scare me that there was eight hours of something to watch. I quite like the fact that there was two. And the whole subject matter and what the whole family has been through. And actually, because I feel, I just felt it was, you know, because it's true. And you're seeing all these videos of this beautiful mum
Starting point is 00:19:45 mother wife you see the wedding you talk to the family and the you know the whole outcome of it and whatever i'll let you talk about it in more detail because obviously it's my first true crime and really it has really blown me away and i understand why people watch them and i think it's very informative, very shocking. But actually, you learn a lot. And I did, you know, I didn't turn it off and I enjoyed it. It was just utterly heartbreaking, wasn't it? And I think because the case is going on, you know, still now.
Starting point is 00:20:17 I mean, he's in prison and he's been, I think, turned down for parole now. But they're still saying, because it's's 13 years he got 26 for manslaughter how did he get manslaughter i mean you just think what i like about true crime documentaries is getting an insight into when you know the police women were interviewing him and you see him wasn't she a lovely police she was so lovely and you think my god what they must go through dealing with different cases how do they do that and then go home and carry on their life? I think it gets to a point where you have to just stop doing it, where I think it just becomes too much
Starting point is 00:20:52 and you just go, right, OK, that's my lot now. She was... All of the women in it were so lovely and so strong and it was just so fascinating just watching her interview him. And you could just see right from the very beginning what he was like. And even in the wedding videos and his personality. And then you think, oh, my God. And you listen to her best friends and her wonderful, wonderful mother. And it's heartbreaking.
Starting point is 00:21:18 They're a wonderful close family. And then she knew that she wanted to leave him. And then she got pregnant. And she seemed such a wonderful mother and so lovely. You just think, oh my God. But I think the way that the documentary was put together was great, which is a weird thing to say because it's such a horrific and sad subject.
Starting point is 00:21:37 That's what I find really uncomfortable about this true crime. But I thought that it was put together incredibly well because, I mean, listening to her friends talking and her mum, who just is an incredible woman and and listening to that and then seeing the police women interviewing him and the gentleman yeah the police officer yes he was so but they seemed so involved and they so cared about the family it was just i found it absolutely heartbreaking and and listening to the children just knowing that the children will have witnessed that I just can't believe and and also
Starting point is 00:22:10 I think you know with the true crime things that I've seen they're always sort of in the history in history or their you know their past and so it's not happening right now I think what freaked me out so much about this when I started watching I thought oh my god I've only been reading about this recently because he's applying you know know, to be released and everything. And I think he's been turned down. But I know that it's being talked about now. And I can't believe that this is what I'm watching. It feels so raw.
Starting point is 00:22:36 My God. It was a very hard watch. It was. But I did. I have to thank you, Daniel. And I really did enjoy it as much as you can. So, yeah, thank you so much. So, our third and final show today is The Gentleman,
Starting point is 00:22:55 which was also recommended by a listener called Nick. So, thank you very much for recommending this, Nick. You can catch this on Netflix. It's only just kind of started because there's still quite a bit of buzz about it, isn't there? Yeah. I'm about four episodes in now and I am genuinely enjoying it. It's about, basically, this duke has died.
Starting point is 00:23:14 Yep. And so the first son is waiting there, you know, for the will to be read. And he thinks he's going to inherit. Because that is the way it goes. Well, that's the way it goes. We've dealt with that before in Mary and George. he's going to inherit... Because that is the way it goes. Well, that's the way it goes. We've dealt with that before in Mary and George. That's historically, firstborn son, you inherit the whole shebang, the whole estate, the title, the lot.
Starting point is 00:23:33 And suddenly, turns out, the whole shebang has gone to the second son. So that is one storyline going. And then the second storyline, over to you, you can do that one. Well, you say second storyline I mean there is so much going on in this programme and I've only watched on third one, I'm on Where's My Weed At Oh yes! And I watched that tonight with Jimmy
Starting point is 00:23:54 where he's in the woods and he's all stoned but yeah, remember spoilers guys, but I haven't got all the way through it's really twisty and turny they've got they find out once the father dies and they sort of delve into the property they've got a wonderful kind of gatekeeper come gardener who looks after the property who's played by vinnie jones what i really want to talk about with this
Starting point is 00:24:17 is it really i loved growing up snatch and lot Lotstock. Yeah. So those films, those Guy Ritchie films for me, I used to watch them and watch them and watch them and absolutely love them. So watching this, I was sort of, I was taken back to my childhood, not to my childhood, but 18, 19. I was sort of taken back and I love the fact that Vinnie Jones is in it, but he's older. And sort of Guy Ritchie's really kind of remained kind to all the people he's worked with over the years.
Starting point is 00:24:48 I love the music and I love the way it's shot and I love that there's scribbles. So there'll be scenes, guys, and imagine there's a scene and there'll be an office and someone will be saying, what we're going to do in stage one is this. And then it will be pencil marked on, it will say stage one. But it's very, very Guy Ritchie. I can't really explain it, but it brings me a lot of joy because it reminds me of watching this sort of stuff, 1920, really loving it.
Starting point is 00:25:14 Yeah. And I'm really, really enjoying it. It's really, really good. It is, isn't it? I mean, it just, it's like a really good romp. I mean, you can see that there's like, there's not like a glint in everybody's eye, but there's like a real sense of humour to it as well. It's very, very funny.
Starting point is 00:25:32 Yeah. Very funny. Can I just say that the guy who plays... So the brother that didn't get the estate and, you know, didn't get everything left to him is because he's an absolute coke-sniffing liability. Yeah. But he is absolutely brilliant.
Starting point is 00:25:47 His name is Daniel Ings in real life. He's amazing. He is absolutely hilarious. I just love watching the joy that he is having playing that character. Absolutely. He's bloody brilliant. I mean, oh, my God, he's amazing. You never know what he's going to do next.
Starting point is 00:26:05 And what I love is Edward, Edwina, Eduardo, Eddie, he just looks at him with such contempt, but it's really modern. You know, it's really like, oh, I know what my brother's going to do next. But he loves him. He never has a go at him. He just sort of lets him get on.
Starting point is 00:26:22 It's like it's his sort of over-excited toddler who keeps doing really bad things and he's just like he's the two of them are so opposite is Theo James is playing Eddie yeah and oh my god the last time I saw him was in um the White Lotus and he's completely different in this I mean he's got you know I think it's his normal accent or that if he's doing you know like a posher accent but he's so controlled and he's, you know, like in the army and he's just, I just thought, oh my God, you're like, this is like your audition for James Bond or something.
Starting point is 00:26:48 I was just about to say to you, I thought he'd make a really good Bond. He would, because he's just so cool and calm. So cool. Yeah, because there's been the inheritance and all of that. And then now he has become the Duke. He has, he's discovering all sorts, I don't want to reveal stuff,
Starting point is 00:27:01 but he's discovering all sorts of things going on on the estate. Well, we can say, because we've said there's spoilers, there's a whole massive cannabis farm. Yes. Which is going on, which is on the estate. It looks like a beautiful old manor house, you know, that you go and visit, you know, with the old paintings and it's all very English countryside.
Starting point is 00:27:17 Oh, I'm loving it. And you go into these acres of land, they go down the stairs, there is a huge cannabis farm going on and the lady who plays um suzy oh kaya scodelario there's another reason i love this i love the fact that the person calling the shot it's like guy ritchie has moved with the times and there's this female kind of gangster yeah and i really love that because obviously in the 90s it was all sort of blokes really, wasn't it?
Starting point is 00:27:46 As soon as it started I thought, oh my God, I'm loving the opening titles, the music, the style of it. I love the style of it. It's flipping brilliant. And then on top of that
Starting point is 00:27:54 you've got a cracking story which just goes boom and just sets off straight away. So you are in it like straight away. The house porn, I mean, as in, what, I mean,
Starting point is 00:28:03 the estate looks amazing. And I love the gangster. I love the one that, there's a part, I mean, as in, I mean, the estate looks amazing. And I love the gangster. I love the one that, there's a part, I won't bore you, because you haven't, you know, if you haven't seen it, or if you've seen it, but it goes off in a helicopter because someone wants to buy the house. And the wine, there's even wine porn,
Starting point is 00:28:16 because he's like, I like to pour the wine through this, and then it has to be strained through. And I'm like, oh my God, that's so amazing. Because Jolie Richardson plays the mother and she's so great and I loved it that she said about her
Starting point is 00:28:28 marijuana factory going on which made me laugh and she's so classy but there's a glint in her eye when she's talking to Vinnie Jones
Starting point is 00:28:37 as the gameskeeper I wonder if they are together is there a whole Lady Chatterley lover thing going on I think they've been together for ages
Starting point is 00:28:42 I've been at it for a long time I don't know I don't think something started oh you think it might start I think they've been together for ages. I've been at it for a long time. Oh, I don't know. I don't think something started. Oh, you think it might start? I think it might start. I reckon we'll find that that's been going on for years. That's my...
Starting point is 00:28:51 Maybe I'm wrong. Oh. And I love that he's got all of the wild animals in his cottage. I love it with the fox and this one and that one. I mean, he was just amazing. When I was watching it, I just kept thinking, you should be in this. You should be in this.
Starting point is 00:29:04 You should be in this. You would be in this. You should be in this. You would be brilliant. You! Me? Oh, leave off. You! You should be in it. You'd be bloody amazing. You'd be brilliant. I'd love to do something like that. Or you'd be a solid little gangster. You would. I think so. You would. You would
Starting point is 00:29:19 be solid. I'd go now. Jo. Get your coat. Oh my god you're so good. Someone around the corner that we've got a tent with. And they'd be like oh I'm coming now. No it's brilliant. Please let us know what you think of it because honestly
Starting point is 00:29:39 yeah really really good one. Yeah it's a damn good romp. Right I think that's enough from us this week. What do you think about our telly tastes? Let us know, won't you? We want to hear from you all. What are you watching out there? You know, what aren't you watching?
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