Off The Telly - Supermarket singles nights

Episode Date: July 3, 2024

What are we watching? Natalie Cassidy and Joanna Page chat about all things telly.This week they're watching The Bear to see what all the fuss is about, The Piano on Channel 4 hosted by Claudia Winkleman, and a comedy on Apple TV all about adoption called Trying.In Off the Telly, Natalie and Joanna talk about what they can’t stop watching, what they definitely aren’t going to bother with, and what you’re all watching at home. From new shows to comfort telly to guilty pleasures, there’s no judgement here. What’s kept us all glued to our screens this week?Self-confessed TV addicts and stars of two of the biggest shows on our screens, EastEnders and Gavin and Stacey, Natalie and Joanna are the perfect companions to your weekly viewing habits.Timecodes for shows discussed this week are:9:53 - The Bear 16:00 - The Piano 21:41 - TryingGet in touch by sending us a message or voice note via WhatsApp to 03306 784704.Hosts: Natalie Cassidy and Joanna Page Producer: Georgia Keating Executive Producer: Richard Morris Commissioning Editor: Rhian Roberts Unit Manager: Lucy Bannister Sounds Editor: Arlie Adlington Music by MCassoOff The Telly is a BBC Studios Audio Production for BBC Sounds.

BBC Sounds. Music, radio, podcasts. Hello and welcome to Off The Telly from BBC Sounds. I'm Natalie Cassidy. And I'm Joanna Page. And this is the podcast where we talk all things telly. We're probably going to swear a bit and we might give some spoilers but there you go it's tough

it is what it is it is what it is how have you been? I scruffed a mouse how wonderful now what does scruffing a mouse mean? is that grabbing it by the scruff of the neck? yes

so you know like how a mum would with a cat and how you know the loose skin at the back of the neck how they would like pick up and scruff and then you like you know the the loose skin at the back of the neck how they would like pick up and scruff and then you like you know hold underneath their bum so you can support them well um a mouse came in and we were examining it because it had been attacked by a cat this is on the wildlife thing yes and um and i put my hand in and i wasn't scared and it's strange because the mouse was you know mice are very fast and the last time I was in this close contact with a mouse I was a student and I stood on top of a toilet and I

literally screamed while it jumped down the landing but I voluntarily put my hand in and I got my two little fingers and I scruffed the back of its neck gently lifted it up and it was like that with its back legs and I lifted it up like that and then paddy the vet examined its little paws and then i put it back in and it was fine what was wrong with it um nothing a cat had attacked it but i think the cat was just playing with it okay you know what yeah so it was all all right so we didn't have to treat it it was all okay it didn't have any injuries oh good the last mouse i saw was in the cupboard underneath my kitchen cupboards. And it was in one of the traps that we set. Oh, God.

But we always buy the clear traps, safe traps. Oh, yes. With the holes. Yeah. But you'd open the cupboard to see if there was any more there and it'd just be petrified. And it'd be poking its nose through one of the holes. They are quite cute. Oh. But I couldn't even go near the plastic box.

Really? So what happened? How did you get rid of it? Oh, Mark and Eliza used to take the box and then they'd drive it down the road and let it out in a field. Oh. I remember my mum once, right, she opened her cupboard door and she like bent down. And it's like, you know when the cupboard goes in and then it goes back? That's what happened.

That's what the cupboard. Yeah. It's like the corner cupboard, isn't it? The corner cupboard, yeah. And she reached her hand in and she got a glass bowl out and then she put it on the work surface and then she had like some bistro granules or something and she went to get them

and just as she was about to pour them into this bowl, she looked down and there was one small mouse poo, mouse dropping in the bottom of the bowl and she nearly just missed it. Can you imagine if she'd poured that in and just started cooking, she would have had a mouse poo in there. Well also the poo looks like gravy, Grendel. It does

so you wouldn't have known, you wouldn't have known How bizarre. Yeah So it's been all animal, animal animal for about the past 10 weeks You've enjoyed it though, it's lovely I have. Can about the past 10 weeks. You've enjoyed it though. It's lovely. I have. Can't wait to see it.

I know. It is gorgeous. And honestly, it's bizarre how much I've learnt. Oh, it's brilliant. I know. Are you going to be like nearly a vet once you've finished? I don't think I'm going to be nearly a vet, but I think I'm more on the nursing side. But I stepped in Foxpo.

About five years, isn't it? Five years. I think it's about five or seven years. It really is a long time. Because that's then what made me, because I was talking to one of the trainees there, and I think it's five years, and she was working, you know, like doing volunteer stuff for her last year. And I did think then, oh, well, I'll never be a vet, will I?

Because I've got to a certain point in my life now where I know I'll never be a ballerina. I know now I'll never be a vet. I'll probably never be a policewoman. I'll never be a ballerina i know now i'll never be a vet i'll probably never be a policewoman i'll never be a footballer you will never be a footballer or a gymnast no or a swimmer no i will never be a chef i'll probably never have a tattoo now that's easy to get i know but i but i won't get one now, right? If I ever will get a tattoo. Oh. What do you want? I will get one probably when I'm like 91 or something. Yeah.

I'll sort of go through like my 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s. And then if I'm still there, I'll go, right, okay, I'm 91 now. Now's the time to get my tattoo. Well, you think you're going to live till you're old. So that's a good start. Yes. That's positive. So you could be a vet.

You could go to uni in your 70s. That is true. Because if I'm planning on living to 91, I could train when I was like 80. Well, joyster, Jo. There. Well, there we go. We learned something there, didn't we? We're going to the universe.

Yes. Anything can happen. That is true. Shall we get on with the show? Right. Okay, then. Oh, have you been watching the Euros? I have been watching the Euros.

Me too. Let's be honest, I'm not very happy. Yeah, me neither. Happy that we're in. Yeah. Happy we're still there. James was just beside himself. He's gone out, he's bought four kits.

The whole shebang. Bo has even got socks to match. Oh, bless you. All of the kids are wearing out everything. Noah now wants the red training kit, but they're all into it. It's good, though, isn't it, for the kids? Yeah, it's exciting and it's good. Mine haven't got that, not into it that much. The only reason Eliza's into it is so she can go to the pub

and see all her mates and sit in the pub. Yes, yeah. She's quite liking it for that. In fact, the last game, she went to the pub and I didn't. Oh, really? She said, all my mates are at the pub, Mum. It's literally over the road Oh, really? She said, all my mates are at the pub, Mum. It's literally over the road. So she said, all my mates are in the pub and their families and whatever, can I go?

I just couldn't be arsed to go to the pub. I actually like watching the game at home. Me too. I feel very precious about it. I like being at home in the peace and quiet with my own drink. Yeah. No noise, no shouting and hollering with people in the way. I watched one game in the pub and...

Oh, I couldn't. I couldn't. Didn't enjoy it. I'm very precious about it. And I only really like it, and I like it the best when Gary Lineker does it. Me too. I feel it's proper then.

Absolutely. I love Wrighty. Yeah. I love Ian Wright. Arsenal fan, you see. Yeah. Watching him and, you know, it was that generation of footballers

wasn't it I think that's why we like them doing it yeah right before we get into the telly shall we have a look at what some of our lovely listeners have been saying oh yes please right let's start with this message about when you were on the sewing bee oh god hi ladies just listening to your last ep and the brown baby grow chat. Check out my little boy Winter when he was three months old in his brown Christmas pudding baby grow. Much love Susie and Cornwall. He looks beautiful. He looks amazing. Oh God, he looks adorable.

Can I just say something though? Yes. Listeners, just so you know, we've got a piece of paper in front of us, obviously, for messages and what have you. And the lovely picture of Winter, very apt, is here. And I thought, oh, I didn't do bad actually on that sewing test. And I thought it was the outfit that I made. I thought, fucking hell, it's all right, you know.

And it's not. I bought it from a shop. Because when I first saw Winter's photo, my first thought was, oh my God, is that what Nat made? Yeah, I thought the same. And then I thought, Jesus, I can't believe she was saying it was so bad last episode because that looks really good. I'd have to get a photo for you, Jo. Oh, he's adorable. Thank you, Susie. Oh, he is so gorgeous.

Jo, we're still getting loads and loads of messages about smoothing your dog. Yeah. A couple of you have said it's also a thing people say in Bristol, which is interesting. We've had this message from Claire as well. Hi, girls. I've sent a message instead of a voice note. As with my broad Aberdeenshire accent,

I'm unsure the listeners will catch what I'm saying. Laughing face. Well, they can understand me, I'm hoping, with my very broad Welsh accent. Everyone can understand you, Jo. I was listening in the car tonight when Jo said that in Wales they smooth the dog. Here in Aberdeenshire, we say clap the dog or clap the cat. Oh my God. I know this sounds like giving the pets a round of applause,

but it's actually what Nat would say is stroking the dog or cat. Oh my God. I know this sounds like giving the pets a round of applause, but it's actually what Nat would say is stroking the dog or cat. Really funny when you grow up with a phrase and other areas of the UK are in disbelief at them. Keep up the great work. Love the pod. Claire. Claire, that's mad. Clap the dog.

I'm going to clap the dog. I've heard of I've got the clap. Yeah. I'm going to clap the dog. Sounds like you're I've got the clap. Yeah. I'm going to clap the dog. Sounds like you're going to hit it. It does. It sounds like I'm going to give it a clap on the ear or something. Clap around the ear, oh.

Oh, Nat, do you remember last week when you said you didn't, you didn't really like Benedict Cumberbatch in Eric because you preferred him in Sherlock? Well, this listener disagrees. I thought Benedict Cumberbatch was incredible. I've never really watched him in anything. I'm not a big Marvel fan and I didn't really watch very much of Sherlock. That's why.

Wow. I love him. I'm in love with him now. Yeah. Oh, bless you. No, I understand. I understand. But I loved him in Sherlock, so I've got that affinity to him on another programme. But I get why you fall in love with him and I get why you love it. Have you finished, Eric? Have you gone back to it, Jo? No, no. I'm still on episode two.

Yeah, me too. Yeah. Me too. I'm going to carry on watching it though, definitely. I will at some point. I've never noticed before how long things are. And I find it a bit disgusting, disgusting actually when there's an episode of something and it goes over an hour yeah something 72 minutes or something it's a bit that's a bit stupid it's

a short film right so let's get into what shows we're going to be covering this week we've been watching the bear on Disney plus the piano on Channel 4 and Try Young on Apple TV and they're three very different shows. Yeah, they really are, aren't they? This one's going to be a good one. Let's talk telly. Now, we had to do this show because everyone has been talking about it.

Everyone seems to be obsessed with Jeremy Allen White who plays the main character, Karmie. Have you seen the advert of him in his pants? No. What do you mean? Where's the advert? Have you seen the advert of him in his pants? No. What do you mean? Where's the advert? Is he doing the advert?

I was going to say then, I wasn't blown away by it. Can I talk to you about what I think about him? Yes. It is unbelievable, actually, I feel. He looks like the chef out of Ratatouille. He does. I mean, God, he really does. And he's playing a chef, which I found quite...

I don't know how Disney's not snapped him up for the live version. I know. Is he related to Gene Wilder? Because is he Gene Wilder's grandson? I'll tell you something, he does look a bit like Gene Wilder. I think he is. And I've thought that for a while. Because I've seen, he's been all over the press and everything.

And The Bear has been so popular. And I haven't watched it at all. even though it's been winning things and people are raving about it. Well I can't believe this is the first time I have come across it. Oh had you not heard about it before? No nothing. Now I'd heard about it I knew everybody was going on about it I'd seen loads about him I've always thought is he related to Gene Wilder and then I've never actually looked to see if he is but and I've never but I've never actually thought oh I'm going to go and have a look at it and watch an episode.

So I'm quite glad that so many people recommended it and we went, right, come on then, let's do this. Well, me too. Let's have a chat about what the show is. So the show starts off, it's based in a restaurant. It's in a restaurant. Someone has died and everybody is left to pick up the pieces. So I don't want to go into it too much, but you've got Carmy,

who's the main character, Jeremy Allen White, and he has been left this place. Yeah. And it's all about the camaraderie, the relationships. And he's like a top, top chef. Absolutely. He trained at Noma and it's kind of going from the most exquisite Michelin star training to a downtown shitty kind of little cafe.

And he's working with his family because he's got his cousin there and he's very much like, no, we stick to what we did before. It's all about the money. You've got to make the spaghetti. You've got to just do what we did before. And he, you know, Jeremy Allen White, just wants to make it the best that it can be. He wants to make it amazing and fantastic and he is amazing and fantastic at what he does.

I thought, my God, it was intense. It was intense. It's such an intense... It powered along. The pace of it, when it came on, I love it. I love the way it's shot. It's just very, very different to anything I've seen, which I think is a rarity these days because we're watching so much

and I think it takes quite a lot for your brain to go, oh, this is interesting because, you know, we're so fulfilled with so many different things. I love the computer game stuff. They've got some old arcade games within the show. I had two separate friends on two separate occasions say to me, oh my

goodness, you're going to get to an episode. It's so intense. Both of them had to have a lie down after watching it. Oh my God, are you serious? Serious. And that's two different people. What, the people who were watching it? Yes. Not the actors who were doing it? A friend of mine Heather and a friend of mine Adam. Oh my God. They both said they had to have a lie down after this episode is the episode in the first

series yes oh god yeah oh god but it's fast paced you're learning about the characters there's some fantastic people in it there really really is i really like um the cousin richie i really like him because i liked him when he was in the show Girls and I just really like him. And I just like the dynamic between Kami and Richie. Kami is just, he's going for it, he's determined and Richie is just on his back all the time. And I liked at the end of the first step how he just, you know,

started doing those cans of, like, you know, tomato stuff to start doing the spaghetti. And then he just kind of went, no. And then he chucked it in the bin. Honestly, the second episode, even just watching that, so much happens. I love the camaraderie between the workers when they're all sat around the table. It's so realistic and natural. I love the music.

I really, really liked it. I've got friends who love it. And one of them was saying that he thinks it's the most realistic portrayal of getting like a restaurant going and trying to establish it and make it really, really good that he's ever, ever seen. And the most realistic portrayal of like a chef and what chefs are like that he's ever, ever seen. And he absolutely loves it i enjoyed it i thought it was massively intense i was just a bit like whoa my gosh you know well i started to take this you'll like this because i started watching it trying to get the telly in as you do yeah i whacked it on on a monday morning after the school run it was nine

o'clock in the morning i thought well i'll start this yes i put it on for five minutes i thought no no it's not the time yeah i can't do this right mood well no it's o'clock in the morning. I thought, well, I'll start this. Yes. I put it on for five minutes. I thought, no, no, it's not the time. Yeah. I can't do this. You've got to be in the right mood. Well, no, it's got to be in the evening, I think, with a glass of wine. I thought, I can't do this.

Yeah. It's too early. But Jeremy Allen White is really good. Very special actor. He's really, I mean, they all are, aren't they? Really good. It's just something about, is it just something about American shows

that they're just all really real? Yeah, but you say that. They're not. Some of them are shit, aren't they? Yeah, some of them are. Do you know what I mean? It is. It's just so real.

I think they've really hit something. They've hit the emotions. You can almost smell the food. You get the steam out of the kitchen. Yeah, the grime and the sweat and the steam. And the hard work and the tiredness. And it's just really well shot. And the script's really good.

I highly recommend it. And by the end of it, they're all calling each other chef because he's managed to get them to do that. He's managed to get them to get there. And you know that they're going to love him. Yeah, absolutely. He's going to come out of it good.

Well, is he? Who knows? Oh, God. Anyway, there you go. You can watch this. You can binge the whole series on Disney Plus and there's series one, two and series three has just come out. So I've got a lot catching up to do. We have got a lot of catching up to do. Listeners, what do you think about it?

Send us a message or even better, leave us a voice note and we'll let you know what the number is at the end of the show. Now the next show we're doing Jo, I watched the whole of Series 1 of this. Are you serious? So the whole of Series 1 was last year. Oh. And it's called The Piano. And The Piano is on Channel 4. And it is presented by the wonderful Claudia Winkleman. And it is all about going to the different stations around the UK

where they have a piano and seeing the talent that is around people that don't play the piano all the time people that have learned people that haven't and in secret back room of whatever station they're at you have all of these people professional people watching them and no one knows it what did you think i gotta be honest i could have taken it or left it but it's fair enough i because i know i i've not been tempted to watch it i love claudia i love the piano i love music i love things like this but i just there was something about it that i just thought no i just i just don't want to i just don't want to didn't tinkle your keys it did not tinkle any of them have you ever wanted to play the piano or can

you play the piano I have wanted to play the piano and I learned how to play the beginning of Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer once well done thank you um and I I you know I love the piano I bought myself a piano yes did you learn to play it my piano. I bought myself a piano. Yes. Did you learn to play it? My 30th birthday. Nice. I bought myself a piano. Very good. Played it a couple of times and now the children play it. I never fucking touch it, do I?

Of course I don't. I'm too busy. But Joanie loves the piano. The reason we got into it is she loves it. She's done her first little grade, which is pre-grade one. Yes. And now she's on grade one. She's about to do her exam.

She couldn't do it. It was meant to be today. Oh, why couldn't she do it? Because she's got chicken pox. Oh my God. Do you know, I think it's going around all of the schools.

It is going around. Because in our school, there's chicken pox there as well. It's not a bad thing. No. Let everyone get it. Get it out the way. In Sweden,

that's what they do, you know. Yes, yes. I think it's really good. So you're not poorly. If you can tell, you just get in and let everyone have it. Get it out the way. So you're not poorly, if you can tell. You just get in and let everyone have it. Get it out of the way.

I remember that my kids, two of them, started coming down with it. And then Noah was only about six months old and he came down with it. And we didn't know at the time. And then we were in the middle. So it hadn't all hit everybody yet. We were in the middle of Legoland. And James started. We were in the middle of Legoland and James started, we're in the middle of the play area of Legoland

and James started going, I don't feel very well. Was that the play area with the water? No, not the water bit. It was like her climbing. I lost Eliza there. Oh, good God. When she was little. How did you lose her?

I just turned around. It was absolutely boiling hot. There were 1,500 children. One minute I saw her, one minute I didn't. How long did it take you to find her? I reckon three minutes, but it felt like four days. My God, it's awful. It's awful, isn't it?

The worst thing in the world. Awful. Sorry, carry on. Well, he was in the middle of the playground and he started going, I don't feel well, I don't feel well. I looked at him and actually visually in front of my eyes, all the spots started appearing and then they all had chicken pox. So he'd never had it?

He'd never had it. Dangerous for an adult. Plastered in it. Absolutely plastered. Well, she looks, honestly, she's covered in spots. Bless her heart. She's itching to death. However, not got a temperature.

Running around the house driving me absolutely bonkers. So she's fine. Well, that's good. Anyway, getting back to the piano. She loved it. I just thought, well, really? She loved it because, although I will tell you a funny story. She loved it. We watched the first series and she was like, oh, mummy, well, really? She loved it because, although I will tell you a funny story, she loved it.

We watched the first series and she was like, oh, mummy, what have you? Yesterday I said, darling, put the piano on for me because I want to see a bit of series too because I'm doing it for the podcast this week. Could you put it on? She went, that is so boring and I'm watching Friday night dinner. I'm not, I'll be honest.

I just thought I'm not interested. I can appreciate, right, that all of the people who got on and who played were great and they were wonderful. They were great at what they were playing. And I really admire, you know, that they can play. And it was beautiful what they were playing. And their skill. I can't get around the fact that some of them are playing.

Working class people who haven't, you know, haven't got a piano. Some people haven't even got a piano. They just play when they're out and about. Yeah. They're accomplished pianists. I just can't believe it. I know. I just think, wow, if you can do that, you've got such a gift.

I mean, all are people with a gift. But I do agree with you. I like that bit. I like watching them playing am i overly bothered when they've picked out the people and then they go and do a show not really because i just watched one episode and what they get to the end and then they all do a show and does that is there one winner or something they pick someone out of each show that we're watching they'll pick someone that they think should make it through yeah and then say there's six of them then they'll put a big show on last year it was the royal albert hall or wherever it was you know somewhere

like that uh it wasn't the royal albert hall it was a royal festival hall excuse me yeah so yeah they'll do a show at the royal festival hall and then there'll be a winner out of that well i you know i appreciate all of that and i think that's lovely and all of that think, you know, I just don't know if I'm being really hard. And I think I just thought, oh, I just can't be bothered. I think I'm just tired. Well, I think it's one of those shows. It's quite feel good. There's just a lot of it about.

So it depends if it floats your boat or not. I just was like, oh, Jesus. Another one of these. Claudia is fantastic though, as usual. She always is. She always is. I think she is amazing. Me too.

And I do, you know, appreciate that it is a lovely show and I think loads of people will enjoy it. You can watch The Piano, both series,

on Channel 4. So if it does float your boat, please let us know. Send us a little voice note. Well, our next show is called Trying and this was on Apple TV.

And I've heard about Trying for ages. And loads of you guys at home have recommended this show to us for weeks and weeks and weeks. I've heard about it ever since it first started. And just purely out of time and busy life and everything, I didn't watch it. But I thought, you know, I knew I probably would enjoy it because I love Rafe Spall I think he's amazing I think he's fab he's just got such a cheeky comedic quality but also when he's serious and straight and he's just he's brilliant and Esther Smith I thought was utterly adorable thought she was wonderful I put the first episode on and I absolutely loved it well I'm pleased should we play um should we just play in a little voice

note here from a couple who can't recommend it enough hello Jo and Nat uh myself and my wife love your podcast we really like trying on Apple TV it's the story of Nitti and Jason who are trying to adopt my wife and I are adoptive parents ourselves so we really empathize with the story and uh it's very funny it's very heartwarming and i'm pretty sure every episode has made at least one of us cry so i would highly recommend it oh thank you so much yeah and so they absolutely love it and they cry i think that's probably because they're emotionally attached to the subject. Yes. So I completely understand that.

It's a hugely emotive subject. And they're trying for a baby and then they're not getting pregnant. And then they find out it's going to be incredibly difficult for them to get pregnant. And then they start. If at all. Well, yes. Yeah. And then they start talking about, are they going to adopt?

And they're umming and ahhing. And then they decide, right, okay, we're going to go for it. And we are going to adopt. And so the whole subject matter is so interesting. And just eye-opening and heartbreaking. But then also, they just got cracking chemistry. It's just... Really good chemistry.

It's so well written. It is funny. It is heartwarming. I believe the pair of them. They make me laugh. They make me really feel for them. I think it's brilliant. Yeah, I agree with you.

They're the characters. You can really... It's very, very relatable. I love the stuff when they go to the park and there's kind of this kind of meeting, you know, meeting up of adoptive parents. And it's their first one. And he's got a plate of food and he's piling on the free food and they only take a couple of bags

of crisps and their barbecue and she said we can't take barbecue you've got to take some posh ones like sea salt it's just the conversation you would have at home yes yeah very natural what about on the first episode when she's like oh my god i'm ovulating we need to do it on the bus yes do it now yeah and all the way through he's just going i can't that woman behind she's like, oh my God, I'm ovulating. We need to do it on the bus. Yes, do it now. Yeah, and all the way through, he's just going, I can't, that woman behind, she's putting me off. And she's like, look at me. Right, come on. And it's, oh my God, it's just so good.

It's so well written and they perform it so well. Really, really good. I just love it. And Rafe Sport is really good, isn't he? He's such a good actor. Yeah. He's just got, he's, oh, he's just got this quality. Very charismatic.

He is, isn't he? He's just really funny and he can just like throw lines oh he's just very charismatic he is isn't he he's just really funny and he can just like throw lines away and he just makes them land i'm really really looking forward to listening and watching more of it yeah just to kind of get to know the characters more because i've only watched a couple but i feel like even when she's at work and you've got that office setting with a girl next to her and you know, you want to get to know. It's one of these series that I feel like I could really get into and get to know and love the characters. Yeah, I think we'll really get to know them. When she goes round to that friend in the first episode,

to the friend who's just had the baby, and then she's like, oh, he's really lovely. I hope he doesn't grow up to be an arsehole. I just love her. She's just quirky and lovely quirky she's a brilliant actress as well yeah she's so good oh which one the mum of the baby the mum yeah the best friend oh yes oh yeah because there's the mum of the baby and then there's the best friend isn't it is it ophelia ophelia i've always loved her name which i know is ridiculous she's great and as it goes

through i can't remember what one I dipped into, but she's with the baby and she kind of starts talking about the fact that she shouldn't feel the way she does. And I think she's got a bit of postnatal depression. Oh, interesting. So she starts chatting to her and it's that kind of dynamic of not having kids,

but then how hard it is to have kids. And it's just very, very relevant. When Oliver Criss is, I just love the kind of characters that he always plays but you know like slightly posh boy who's just really you know oh like that and and that he's like I've got to get some yogurt for my wife and should I get Greek should I get this or whatever and then Ralph Spall is just so lovely he's like well if it's for you and he said it's for my wife and he's like well if it's for your wife I think you need some Greek yogurt and I just

thought oh I'd love him to be a boyfriend he's he's lovely so nice he is but I love Oliver Chris and but it's interesting isn't it watching and when you're trying for a baby and everybody else has got a baby and everybody else talks about how it's so easy and oh god yeah we got another one and she's gonna just you know have one now oh god yeah we've got pregnant so it's away and and you know when you're trying to have one and everybody else who's got loads of them or away and you know the pressure of it when you're trying to have one and everybody else has got loads of them or they've you know

just had one or they're just whatever and it's just I just think it's great I think it's a great show really really good nice comedy

feel good and very emotional as our listener said you know if you're going through that sort of thing but it's brilliant yeah

can't wait to watch some more of it me too I'm definitely going to carry on watching that one. Yeah, definitely. And you can watch all of that on Apple TV. Oh, we've got some more recommendations. Oh, good.

My favourite. Right, well, let's start with this message. Hi, ladies. Emma here. We are currently re-watching a series of unfortunate events by Lemony Snicket on Netflix. I had forgotten how good it is. Your kids will love it.

The wonderful Neil Patrick Harris is Count Olaf and Lucy Punch is wonderful. It is full of misfortune and horrible events. It is far better than the film. Well, we are huge fans of It in the House. Have you seen it? I've seen snippets of it. Yeah. But Joni and Eliza loved it. Oh, it in the house. Have you seen it? I've seen snippets of it. Yeah.

But Joni and Eliza loved it. Oh, it's so good. It was just like right up my street. I mean, it's because it's dark and it's scary. Neil Patrick Harris. Yeah. Oh my gosh, he's incredible. I mean, just the different characters that he does

or the different costumes and the way that he, you know, reinvents himself as Count Olaf and how scary he is and he looks so different in his different disguise he says flipping brilliant

and Lucy Punch is such an incredible actress Lucy Punch is Amanda in Motherland is that correct? Yes She is fab Oh my god

I thought she was just a fantastic actress for years and years and years well i've never sat down and watched it with them but i'm always pottering cleaning popping in popping out and seeing it going core that looks good the shots look brilliant that looks a bit dark and yeah so i'd be up for um going back and having a chat about that if you fancy at some point so thank you for that oh we got a message from Kate. Hello, lovely ladies. Your podcast is fantastic. Listening to you both being so enthusiastic and honest

with your opinions of TV shows is a joy to hear. Joanna, you mentioned you wanted more dramas with the Welsh language. I would highly recommend Hinterland. It's a Welsh detective drama set in Aberystwyth. My husband and I loved it. Beautiful scenery along with gripping storylines. It's on BBC iPlayer.

Thank you for keeping me company while the kids are at school from Kate in Hampshire. Oh, thank you, Kate. Well, Kate, my friend Mally is the female detective, Mally Harries. She's the female detective in it. She wears this red anorak and she's the female detective in Hinterland. Really?

Yeah, and I haven't watched it yet. Well, maybe we should. Maybe we should. Love to. Thank you, Kate, for the recommendation. I've heard of loads of people that it's really, really good. Brilliant. Brilliant.

And we've got a voice note here from Anna. Hi, Jo and Nat. This is Anna in Sutton Caulfield. Thank you so much for making such a brilliant podcast and for talking to us in such an honest and brilliantly funny way it's amazing i don't know if you're watching love island um which is really total and utter rubbish in a way but very entertaining and i'm i have to google sometimes what um what the contestants are talking about because they use phrases that I don't understand.

So I have to Google them. So it's lots of fun and it is entertaining. Yeah, I just love the podcast. Love it so much and have a lovely day. And thank you for doing what you do. Bye. Thank you so much, Anna. Thank you.

I'm not watching Love Island, but I have been a regular Love Island viewer and I do love a bit of Love Island. But I probably wouldn't know what they were talking about these days. I turned it on the other night. No, I lie. I didn't turn it on. I was watching Gogglebox.

Oh, yeah. And it was on there. And it was Joey Essex playing some sort of beer pong game. And underneath each glass, there was a task or whatever you want to say. Oh, God. Yeah. And there was Joey Essex with two girls doing a three-way sn whatever you want to say. Oh, God, yeah. And there was jury of six with two girls doing a three-way snog in front of everyone.

Oh, God, I couldn't do that. And I just thought, this is just not for me. I love Love Island, but I've not been watching this one, but I could never do anything like that. Could you? I always think, oh, God, I don't know how they can do it. I'd be mortified. I think if I started watching it, the problem is you get addicted.

That's it. Don't you? You get addicted with the people, what's going to happen and all of that. And I've just never got into it. Yeah. God, I die. I'd like to do a different version of Love Island, which is kind of, just imagine 10 of me, just with my hair scraped back, tracksuit bottoms on, like wandering around the supermarket or whatever.

Yeah. And just talking to people in there. But would you, because if it's Love Island, say it was Love Supermarket, would you be talking to people trying to pull them? Yeah, no, the concept would be the same. It would be about relationships. But you'd be at the petrol station, at the supermarket, at the service station. But you could do that one at the supermarket

because there are singles nights at supermarkets, aren't there? Sorry? There are single nights at supermarkets. So on something like a Tuesday, I'm not lying. You're fucking winding me up. I swear to God, I am not lying. I always learn from you, Jo. And finally, let's hear this voice note from Nia with a recommendation.

Hi, ladies. Nia from South Wales here. I've got a recommendation for you. So, Jo, now that you've got this newfound love for wild birds, I thought you and Natalie should take a look at Painting Birds with Jim and Nancy Moyer. Absolutely lovely, relaxing watch. So they go travelling around the UK doing a bit of bird watching and each week they focus on an individual bird.

They usually meet up with a celebrity friend, do a bit of landscape painting. And then when they're back at home, Jim goes out to his lovely little workshop at the bottom of his garden and does a beautiful painting of the bird of the week. I really think you'll enjoy it. I know I do. Also wanted to say absolutely absolutely love your podcast. And I can't wait for your new episode each week. Keep it up, girls. Thank you so much.

Did you hear the birds in the background? I did. Oh. I think I'd really like to do that. I really would like to do this because I've heard of that show. And I think that would be great. Sounds right up my street on a Sunday morning. As always, thank you so much for your messages and voice notes.

We love hearing what you guys think at home and we really appreciate you taking the time to get in touch with us. The recommendations are fab and even if we don't have time to cover them all on the show, they might be useful for our off-the-tele community anyway. So it is a win-win. It sure is. And also and also joe look we've made a couple of call outs recently for voice notes about your tv crushes loads of you got in touch so we've decided to drop a bonus app of off the telly what should we watch on friday cool so definitely check out this episode it's going to be a good one it might even be joe's favorite voice note app who knows well i think that's enough from us now this week we love hearing from you guys so please do keep

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