Off The Telly - Tattoo me an omelette

Episode Date: October 9, 2024

Natalie Cassidy and Joanna Page chat about all things on and off the telly. This week Jo admits she’s now got a crush on Jamie Borthwick after watching his rumba on Strictly, and so naturally Nat decides to give him a call to tell him. Jo also shares what kind of tattoo she’d get and they debate whether you can eat olives out of the bin. Plus they have a catch up about Bad Sisters (Apple TV) and Nightsleeper (BBC iPlayer).What they can’t stop watching, what they definitely aren’t going to bother with, new releases and comforting classics – TV is timeless and no telly is out of bounds. As well as having a natter about what’s on TV, they share backstage goss from the world of telly, whilst also cracking up about the more humbling moments in their lives. Self-confessed TV addicts and stars of two of the biggest shows on our screens, EastEnders and Gavin and Stacey, Natalie and Joanna are the perfect companions to see what’s occurring on and off the telly. Timecodes for shows discussed this week are:7:44 - Bad Sisters 24:30 - NightsleeperGet in touch by sending us a message or voice note via WhatsApp to 03306 784704.Hosts: Natalie Cassidy and Joanna Page Producer: Georgia Keating Executive Producer: Richard Morris Commissioning Editor: Rhian Roberts Production Co-ordinator: Becky Carewe-Jeffries Sounds Editor: Arlie Adlington Music by MCassoOff The Telly is a BBC Studios Audio Production for BBC Sounds.

BBC Sounds. Music, radio, podcasts. Hello and welcome to Off The Telly from BBC Sounds. I'm Natalie Cassidy. And I'm Joanna Page. And this is the podcast where we have a good old catch-up and natter about what we've been watching on the telly. As always, this podcast may contain spoilers and a few sweary words, but that's the way it is. We're both a bit snotty, Jo, let's be honest.

We are. We've got sexy deep voices this week, haven't we? No, you've got a sexy deep voice and I just sound like I've got more of a cold than I usually have. I'm not used to talking this deep. Like, this is how I feel now. I probably could talk like this deep. And this is the deepest that I think I've ever spoken in my life. I feel like my head is buried in concrete. It sounds like you're just about to go, you know, down the Nash to do a play. What's down the Nash?

The National Theatre. I thought you were saying the Nash as in N-A-S-H and I was thinking, where the hell am I going? Not Nashville, not Nashers. Talking about, you sound very kind of, you know. Do I sound like I'm going to be a very serious actress now and I don't sound like my normal Welsh self at all? Hello, I'm Joanna Page.

I like that. That's good. I like you normally better. Do you? You can go with that. I'm just show class in my range at the moment, to be honest. Well, it's because your job's ending soon

and it's a way to go, isn't it? I've got two days left. I can't believe it. I'm really sad, but I'm trying to just enjoy it as much as I can but I'm going to be really well I'm going to be a wreck on Monday when we finish I keep looking at people and just I just start crying and I don't know why because I'm going to see them all again so I mean but it's just the fact that I'm not going to be Stacey seeing them all again and

we're not all going to be in these costumes and costumes and it's just so many memories and I'm so flipping sentimental. I wish I was just a bit harder. I'm quite hard. You should be a bit more like me. I'm going to have to try and take on board some gnat, aren't I? A little bit of gnat. Just toughen myself up a bit and just turn up and go, right, come on

let's just film this fucker and then we can all go to the wrap party and have a laugh. And instead I'm just going to go into the makeup truck and go oh my god i'm here can't believe it's the last day and i'll just be crying i also hate to burst your bubble but let's be honest you're never all gonna get together again hit me where it hurts nat but it's true you might talk to the odd person. There'll be an odd message. You might go for lunch with everyone, you know, one person at a time.

You're never all going to be in a room again. We'll never. We won't all be together, will we? This is it. No. This is it. Oh, God. So grab the next 48 hours by the bollocks is what I'd say.

Yeah. Well, I'm having a piercing done. Oh. Before I go back home, I'm going to get another piercing done on my year. So I'll say. Yeah. Well, I'm having a piercing done before I go back home. I'm going to get another piercing done on my year. So I'll have three then. I've got the first one done

when I was small. The second one done when my right ovary packed up. And then my third piercing is going to be the end of Gavin and Stacey. When I first met you Yes.

properly for our photo shoot for this podcast Yes. you just had your second piercing done for the ovary do you remember that yes I do because originally I had it done on that one yeah yeah and it's a very big it's a lasting memory to me your piercings because I feel like that's we connected over I was talking to you regarding the piercings so it's nice to hear you're getting

another one I think I tell you, we should get one done together because I was considering having a tattoo as well. And then I told James and he said, oh, for God's sake, don't get a sleeve or something. And then I was like, how can I possibly get a sleeve done in a morning? It would take longer than that, wouldn't it? But I was thinking of having a blue tit bird

under my own tit. And so it's only if I lift up the boob that people will be able to see it underneath so I can choose who is and isn't going to see it. But then I thought, no, that's committing too much to have a tattoo done. Wait on that one until something else happens. What would the blue tit be for?

The blue tit... Do your tits get cold? Yes, it represents the fact that I'm not breastfeeding. Well, I am still kind of breastfeeding, but the breastfeeding has stopped. So it's a sense of freedom and birds represent freedom. And then in our old house, we used to have a blue tit family and I think they followed us to the new house.

So it just seemed natural to get a blue tit tattooed on my boob. Do you know what I think you should do? What? I think when you last stay in Barry in a couple of days' time, I think you should do. What? I think when you're last day in Barry in a couple of days' time, I think you should find a tattoo parlour, lift up your boob and say, could you tattoo me an omelette under there? Oh, my God, wouldn't that be so good? Yeah.

Yeah. That's what I'd really like you to do. Or a pair of fingers that say, fuck the salad. Yes. So everyone's going to have to just bear with us because we both are so banged up. How's it going with you? Where are you now? I don't even know where you are. I know.

Where am I in the world? It's like Joe Lysett all over again. Where in the world is Natalie Cassidy? I am. I am in Portsmouth. Oh, nice. It's been beautiful. We're down at South Sea and I've never been here before. What a beautiful place. We've been on the beach.

We've been walking around today. And I have immersed myself in a 12 degree cold water bath today. Oh, my gosh. What was it like? Quite shocking, actually. Did it take your breath away? When I say take your breath away? When I say take my breath away, the whole team were frightened.

They said, oh, my goodness, your face contorted and we thought you were going to have a panic attack. But it's your body takes over. It's fight or flight, so your body completely takes over. And about four or five breaths, you have no control of. The body just does what it does. And then you kind of calm down. Very, very interesting. And you do feel quite elated afterwards. I'm not sure if i'd do it again though really you don't

think it's something you'll incorporate into your everyday life no because i was in a chair with a belt on and i felt a bit out of control and you know i'm a bit of a control freak so i think going sea water swimming would be much nicer why did you have to be in a chair with a belt on? It's a long story. Don't worry about it. Just wait till the programme comes out. Well, no, because you can float. We can float off. Oh. And because it was in a university and they were actually,

you know, I had pads on. They were testing my heartbeat and seeing what happens. So we're looking into the science of it, you know. They've put you through the mill on this show. It's been good. It's been really good. I think it'll be good for telly. I'm looking forward the science of it, you know. They've put you through the mill on this show. It's been good. It's been really good. I think it'll be good for telly. I'm looking forward to you watching it.

I think people are going to enjoy it. Yeah, I can't wait to see. And oh my God, Sonia is in prison now, isn't she? Do you think, I wanted to ask you, do you think she's going to be top bitch in the prison? I don't think Sonia will be top bitch. I think she's quite caring. She has had a penchant for the ladies.

Yes. So maybe she's got herself a girlfriend in there. It's quite possible. But I think she would be more caring rather than a bitch. And I think she'd be helping people out, looking after people. Maybe she's in the laundry room doing some laundry, what she learnt off a dot, that sort of stuff. True.

But, yeah, she's in there and who knows when she's coming out? Don't know. Oh, my God. So, we've got two shows this week. Yes, we have. We've got Night Sleeper, which is on the BBC, and we've got Bad Sisters, which is on Apple TV. Bad Sisters.

God, I want to talk about it. It's bloody brilliant. I'm pleased you enjoyed it. I've been so excited for you to watch it because obviously I've watched Series 1. I've watched the whole thing and I think it's out. Series 2 is out November the 13th on Apple.

Is it? Yeah, so you need to get going on that. You need to be finished so we can start Season 2 together. Oh my God, it would be need to be finished so we can start season two together. Oh my God, it would be good, right, if we could start season two together. I was in the first episode. I was enjoying it and I was enjoying the women. And then I've got to be honest, I was really quite shocked when John Paul started.

You know, like played by the actor Klaus Bang, who I've always had a crush on and think he's just gorgeous and fab. I have to be honest, I was really quite shocked. You know, when they settle down in the first episode and they're all sitting around to have Christmas together, they're all like having a meal together, and he's sitting in the middle of the table. Oh, my God, his passive-aggressive comments towards the women. I was really shocked and I genuinely was really frightened of him.

Yeah, and uncomfortable immediately. He was so good at the part that he just made the whole room, everyone was treading on eggshells whenever he was around. And that is an awful place to be. I'm thinking, okay, the sisters have all got together.

I think they've somehow done away with him. It seems like Anne-Marie Duff, who's playing his wife, doesn't know about it. And so I can't wait to see what's going to happen. You have got so far to

go I'm so jealous it is it unfolds as you go on the stories you know they in that they're into intertwined they are very very complex there's so many twists and turns you are just going to absolutely love it I come from a family of women so my I'm very close to my you know my nieces my sister-in-law you know there's a lot of women I like the female-led drama of it all and I just think it's so well written and you usually talk about this sort of thing but I just think their clothes are lovely as well I know they are well whatever Sharon Horgan always wears, she just looks amazing. Yeah, she looks good.

And oh my gosh, it's Bono's daughter, isn't it? Yes. Who was in the... Yes, the Perfect Couple. Perfect Couple, yeah. And my God, she's flipping brilliant, isn't she? She's so good. She's absolutely brilliant. Wait till you find out who she meets.

I'm so excited. I can't wait to see anymore. Oh my God, don't say anymore. It is really, really... I'm so excited I can't wait to see anymore oh my god don't see anymore it is really really I'm not just saying it's really really good Apple TV if you haven't seen Bad Sisters guys please

try and watch it I know it's Apple TV and it's another thing to do and blah blah blah but subscribe to it even if it's for seven days and it's free and you know you go through stages in your life

don't you when you feel you know because like I'll do a job or something and I feel really strong and powerful and confident and like really like a really strong woman and then other times i just feel a bit shit and i feel all a bit weak and a bit rubbish and all not very confident and

and just watching this i just thought oh my god i'm just loving this is making me feel powerful as well and i'm just loving having all these women together it was it was brilliant it's you know and the first episode is about an hour long, but you are just in it the whole way. And then there's the whole insurance thing and the two brothers there. I mean, I have no idea how it's going to play out, but I can't wait.

It's my new favourite thing because I've now finished the second series of Calling From Accounts. So this is my new favourite thing now. I can't believe that you've got further than me from Calling From Accounts. I know, isn't that mad? Because when we first started, you were like full on Calling From Accounts. And now I've can't believe that you've got further than me from calling from accounts. I know, isn't that mad? Because when we first started

you were like full on calling from accounts and now I've just gone like that. Yeah, you've overtaken me. It's like the hare and the tortoise over here. Yeah, it is. And also, can I just say that there is so much telly that's back on. Obviously we've got Strictly

haven't we? But Bake Off's back on. I've not seen any of Bake Off yet. Have you seen Bake Off? I haven't seen any of it yet because I do like watching it with the kids and I don't think they've watched any. So I'm saving it up because in the next, please, in the next few weeks

I think I'm going to have a bit more time in the evenings and I really want to watch it with them. Because obviously Eliza did it so we always like to look at the tent and stuff and look back at that. So that'll be really lovely. Yeah. Slow Horses is back on,

but I gave up with that because... Well, I know I've not gone back to it, and I want to, but... Me too. I don't know why I haven't. But yeah, but yeah, I am going to go back to it because I did really, really like it,

but I don't know what I'm going to. No, me neither. And I watched two of those, I think. Two or three, but without Mark't know what I'm going to no me neither and I watched two of those I think two or three but without Mark and when I watch things I thought I really want to watch this for Mark so I'd like to go back and start it again yes with my god but that is a massive big undertaking isn't it going all right okay yeah but I'm into Strictly now I'm very excited so we're recording this on a Friday because we're both upset for it and so we're having to you know so we both are very nervous about tomorrow now for our we haven't spoken about last week let's talk about last week oh my god right I was watching it right and Jamie

Borthwick is so adorable and when I went to watch win Jamie came up you know and just gave me a hug and was chatting about you when he was so lovely. And then I was in my hotel room last weekend and I watched Jamie do in the rumba. Oh my god. He was amazing, wasn't he? He was brilliant, wasn't he? I think I've got a slight crush on Jamie Borthwick. Oh, I'm going to have to text him.

Oh my god, don't text him right now. I'll be mortified. I think it was his shirt flowing out and the way that... I love men when they do the rumba because there's something very, you know, when they commit to it. I don't think he's going to answer. Hang on.

Oh my God, don't. I'll be mortified. Hello, Natalie Cassidy. Hello, Jamie Bulford. How are you, sweetheart? I'm good, how are you? You're on off the telly, my podcast, please do not swear,

but I had to quickly ring you live on here. I'm on the podcast with Joanna. Yeah, with Jo. I'm back in the car with Wynne. He's in the car with Wynne. Wynne, oh yeah. Hello, Wynne. They said hello.

Hello. Oh, Wynne, you were brilliant last week. Wynne, Jo sends her love to you. It's Natalie. You were wonderful last week, Wynne. Don't you just love her? It's Natalie, you were wonderful last week Wynne Honestly She's hilarious, she don't stop talking to me and the reason I'm

phoning, it's so weird you're both in the car together is that we're doing the podcast so we're talking about you both saying that we're nervous for you tomorrow and Jo said she was in her hotel room last week, she watched Jamie do the Roomba and she's now got a crush on him I said well I'm going to have to phone him I'm going to have to phone him and tell him

well she's only human she's only human tell Wyn tell Wyn that I think he's adorable and gorgeous too Joanna said Wyn that you're adorable and gorgeous too oh yeah Wyn is as adorable and as gorgeous as me though isn't she

alright do you know something you don't really need this Big Ed but I had to let you know. She's gone all red and everything. She's got a real crush on you since the Roomba. Oh, well, I'm glad because I love her. I met her for the first time last week and she is an absolute angel. I know she is. And I absolutely love her.

She's so warm and lovely. Isn't she? And I said to Joe, what we'll do is once you finish what you're doing, we'll meet up in town and the four of us will have a lovely bit of dinner. I can't wait. When are you coming to Strictly, by the way?

I don't know. We need to talk about it as soon as you've got time. Shall we go next week? Because I finished my job. Shall we go next weekend? Joe's saying, shall we go next weekend? I'll have to have a little look in the diary and we'll work it out.

But we'll talk to you the powers that be let's make something happen what are you doing what are you dancing for movie week tomorrow please we don't know

I am dancing the quick step to I'm still standing I'm dressed up as Elton John oh my you wait till you see me tomorrow I cannot wait and Wynne what's Wynne up to

Wynne is even better he's Mrs Doubtfire no he's not I've seen photo of his skirt you can't wait for this you can't wait i cannot wait for tomorrow i'm so excited amazing well listen good luck we love you both of us are sending all our love and love to you i love you both i miss you now obviously joe i've just met last week i've met her and saw her last week i've seen her more than you. I know, but I miss you, sweetheart. Love you. Give me a call later. I will. Love you.

Bye. Bye. Bye, boys. Oh. That's so sweet. Quick Step, Elton John. I'm Still Standing, which is one of the girls' favourite songs, so they're going to absolutely love that, my girls. That's good. And then Wendy and Mrs. Doubtfire. Brilliant. Oh my gosh. i've seen photos of him in his skirt and and he looks good

in his skirt has he got a hoover cleaner yeah that is going to be brilliant oh i'm really excited and they're in the car together isn't that funny yeah that's really sweet i think they get on with each other really well don't they yeah well it's Well, it's natural. What can you do? Yeah. Well, Strictly is going very well then, isn't it? Because I'm enjoying that. There's been a change in the air as well, isn't there? Because you know when I've done Panto, this is now

when you get the script in and you normally start rehearsing. And so, you know, like this coldness and this smell in the air and the whole change makes me start thinking about Panto rehearsals. And then it makes me start thinking about panto rehearsals. And then it makes me get really, really excited for Christmas. And I've already started buying some more Halloween decorations and thinking about Christmas now. And I'm getting really excited about it.

And now we've got the good autumn telly. I know, there's loads and loads going on and you just can't beat getting your pyjamas on early, sitting it down and watching Strictly. You can't beat it. Do you know what I oh sitting it down and watching strictly you can't beat it do you know what i did i was in my hotel room last weekend because i've been coming home every weekend but last weekend i stayed there because i was so exhausted yes and i ordered um a big steak and chips right and for starters i ordered like a massive big plate of nachos as well and then i ordered um a large glass of red

wine and then I thought well it's just it's not enough so I'm going to order two. I have to say Strictly is very long at the moment because there's a lot of people in so one glass of red's not enough why did you not just get a bottle? Well I didn't well well because that's the way that my mind works right I didn't think about getting a bottle I instead thought about just ordering up to the room two large glasses of red wine and I just thought I will just drink both of them and then but it felt quite weird because it was kind of like it was somebody else's glass of wine and when the person came in to give me some room service and brought the tray in they sort of looked around yeah it if there was somebody else. Yeah it was there and it was two meals, two glasses of wine but there was no one else there. It was

just me and then I got a bit embarrassed and flustered but not flustered enough that I didn't eat and drink all of it and enjoy watching Jamie rumbering. Fantastic. Well we'll have to catch up next week on how they get on but I reckon they're very

high up I reckon on the list to go far. I hope so. They're doing good. Wins Walt last week made me cry. Oh, I thought he held himself well. And then I thought, well, no wonder he holds himself. He's got a good hold because he's an opera singer. Well, that's it, the posture, the rib cage.

You know, singers, that's what it's about, isn't it? Amazing. And it was so traditional. Yes. And know, singers, that's what it's about, isn't it? Amazing. And it was so traditional. Yes. And just so, I loved it. I thought it was beautiful, very classy. And then tomorrow he's doing something completely different, which sounds quite comedic.

So that's going to be really, really good. Yeah. Brilliant. Oh, our boys are doing well. Our boys are doing well. Do you know, we've had so many people get in touch after you saying that James gets hot all the time and eats out the bin like the dad on Friday night dinner.

Loads and loads. We've got a couple of voice notes here. Let's hear this one. This is from Rachel. Being really hot, it's definitely not an age thing. My husband, 24, is ridiculously hot all the time. Like, I know it's not the middle of winter, but we've got the windows open all the time. Like, I know it's not the middle of winter, but we've got the windows open all the time.

He is constantly like a radiator and at night. I just, I don't need a duvet because he is so warm. It's lovely. Helps on the heating bills. I wonder what it is about men. Why are they always hot? I'm either baking hot or freezing cold. There's no in between

really yeah I I used to be freezing cold all the time and my nose used to be freezing and I always used to wear jumpers but now I just now I mean I suppose it must be my age I I have become now and also since being pregnant when I used to have to drive around with all the windows open I just I'm always just always quite warm now well I tell you something this with all the windows open. I'm always quite warm now. Well, I'll tell you something. This hotel room is about 400 degrees. I'm absolutely baking. The radiator is so hot in here.

Yeah. It's really hot. But see, I would love that. Because you know the hotel that I've been staying in, there's like a little air con thing on. And as soon as I go into my room, I press the buttons and I knock it all the way up to 32. And then I leave it going at 32 until it is baking and then I feel myself heating, heating, heating, heating up. What are you doing in there?

Bikram yoga or something? Then when it gets too much to bear, I just go and I knock it off and then I slowly let the temperature go down and then I feel quite nice. The other night, I did knock it up to 32 and then I went to bed and kept it going and then I woke up in the early hours and I thought I was being suffocated by something so I had to turn it down

so I've realised now, don't put it on 32 when you're going to sleep. Jo, I'm not surprised it's baking. I know but it's nice. It's nice. It's nice. Oh no. That's not good for you. I'm telling you it's going to dry you all out, everything. You're sure you're ill. You've probably just dried out. You've probably got no throat left. That's true. for you. I'm telling you, it's going to dry you all out, everything. You're sure you're ill. You've probably just dried out.

You've probably got no throat left. That's true. I probably just have like literally no spit or anything left. I reckon your organs have melted. Everything's dehydrated. You're turning into a, you know what you can do in the air? You know fruit? Yes.

In the air fryer, you can dehydrate it. Yes. You're going to end up like a shriveled raisin. Yeah. Is that what you're going to be? It will be. That is what I'm doing to myself in the hotel. Thank God I've only got two more days there.

I don't know what's going to happen. Honestly, I don't want to see you coming out all wrinkly. Yeah, turn that heating down. Yeah. Do we have any more voice notes? Yes, here's another voice note from tracy let's have a listen to this so you asked about heated stuff from the bin um well i've got a guest house in south bristol um and um the other day um it was only sort of a waste paper basket you know and she'd left um she'd left an almost full pot of olives I'm half Portuguese so

I'm such an olive lover and I'm like I cannot throw those away can I just put a caveat there was no hair in the bin it was all very clean um just olives in plastic do you know what I mean I wasn't picking any hair off or anything. That sounds pretty gross now that I'm saying it out loud and I'm actually blushing. But yes, that's my confession. Oh, do you think the cover was on for the olives? Because I'd have done that if there was a full pack of olives. No, I reckon it was a peel off.

Yeah. It's very, very unusual to get an olive pack which has a hard lid. That's true, isn't it? Yeah. Because they have changed now to have them as that peel-off thing, which I'm not keen about because it makes you have to eat all of the olives, which actually I normally do anyway, but I would like to have the choice. You can put them in a Tupperware.

You can put them in a Tupperware or you can put a bit of cling film over them. I know, but it's much easier if you've got a plastic lid and you can put the plastic lid back on, isn't it? It is. It is. I think that's a ploy to get us to just eat all of them so we end up spending more money and buying more. Or the environment, because the plastic lid's worse. That's true. But what about the bottom of the thing, right?

If you're going to do that, go the whole hog and put them in a paper bag. Because if you're going to do the plastic lid... You can't have in oil joe but you could have a wall you know like those brown hard paper bags that you you know you could have like a lining in it couldn't you oh i know what you mean yes yes which you get actually in snack packs of olives. Do we, oh? You can, yeah. You can get a foil kind of, not so much foil, but an eco kind of cardboard. Anyway. Yeah. I wouldn't have eaten olives out the bin.

I don't care what they look like. Well, do you know what I was thinking? Even if the lid was on, she doesn't know how long those olives have been in that room or out for. Because instead of having them in the fridge, they could have just been on the side. And they could have gone a bit off or they could have been in the sun. And then that's the reason why they were put in the bin. And so they could actually have just been off. I mean, if you had the olives in your bedroom, in your hotel room, your guest room,

they would have been fucking fried, wouldn't they? They would have. At 33 degrees. They'd have been cucked. So you never know. You never know the temperature of places That's all I'm going to say Well, we're going to talk about Night Sleeper now

So yes, have you been a fan of Night Sleeper? Because there has been a lot of promo for it It's absolutely everywhere, isn't it? We've had recommendations for it I've watched three Night Sleepers Yeah? I've done quite a bit of travelling for it? I've watched Three Night Sleepers. Yeah? I've done quite a bit of travelling this week, so I've been able to watch a few.

I've downloaded a few and I thought, right, I'm going to crack on with this. Yeah? It started off, what's the bloke's name in it? Joe Cole. So I think he's very good. It's set on a train. It's a journey.

It's a very long journey. It's a journey. It's a very long journey. It's about hacking. How they've stretched this out to six episodes, I'll never know. Really? I'm sorry. Because I'm still on the first episode. I don't love it. I really don't.

I like him. Yeah. I think he's very charismatic. Yeah. And I like him. But the story, I don't really know how to... It's meant to be a thriller. And the person that we got the recommendation of last week,

she said she was absolutely gripped at the edge of her seat. And I have to say, it didn't do that for me. I didn't find it nail-bitingly thrilling. Right. And I think because it's one train plus one location of kind of the, you know, the office, the MI5 where they, you know, sort everything out. It was kind of those two locations. Yeah.

And a lot of it's done on phones where they're just having phone conversations which i understand because they're on the train but it didn't grip me as much as i thought it would however the wonderful alex ferns is in it who i worked with on extenders yeah um he played trevor in extenders little mo's evil tre. And he is really brilliant in it. Maybe I'm biased. Listen, they're all really good. I'm not sitting here saying, oh, I didn't like this one, didn't like that one.

I like all the characters in it. I kind of understand it. But it, to me, isn't that amazing thriller that I was expecting. The acting is good, but I think it's quite slow. I'm now near in the middle of episode four and I could leave it. Right. Well, I'm still on episode one.

I don't want to know who's done it. Really? Not really. Oh my God. But saying that, you have got to episode four. So it's drawing you in with something, isn't it? Because loads of people are saying how addictive it is and they've really got in

and they're just like completely addicted to it and people have become quite obsessed. I love Alexandra Roach and I know her and she's utterly gorgeous. She's really good. And I love her. She's a fab actress, isn't she? Yeah, really good.

And so I'm enjoying watching her in it, but I've literally kind of just started it and they've had like that chase, you know, the fella has stolen that computer and there's that huge, big, massive chase in the beginning where all of the different characters are dropped in and sort of incorporated in. Don't get me wrong.

I loved the baby stuff. That was a good twist at the beginning. I won't go too much into it. Spoilers. But I wasn't really expecting that. I thought that was going to be, you know, the real deal. And obviously she was involved and what have you. But you've got a journalist on the

train and you've got these sort of six, seven characters that end up on the train. There's a few get off. Anyway, spoiler alert. But yeah, listen, it's good. Why don't they just turn the electric off? Why can't they turn all the electric off around the UK? I don't know

because I've heard someone saying that as well. So I'm still pretty early days and I'm intrigued. I want to know what's going to happen. I want to watch Alexandra Roach and see what she's like. I'm loving her new short hairstyle. She looks very, very good. Hair looks good. And she's, yeah, very, very good actress.

I suppose I think it's quite a difficult one because how can you keep changing up the same scene? I don't know. So as an actor, if I got that, you'd go, I get the script and I really like it, but there's only so much I can do in the one location talking about the same thing. And I think they're doing a stellar job.

Do you know what I mean? They're doing a stellar job, but it's not going anywhere. So is it a bit like the film Speed, you know, with Sandra Bullock and Keanu Reeves? Right. Yes. But there's a bit of writing that's kind of flirty. Oh, yeah.

She's meant to be talking to him about this. It's a bit, I don't know, it just wigged me out a little bit. I couldn't quite work out what was going on. Right, I'm going to carry on watching it. Could you? I'd like you to. And wanting to know what's going to happen. And to be honest, I have to say, I never get as far as four, so I will finish it because I've only got two left,

so it'd be rude not to. And it did make me, when I was watching Alexandra, it did remind me of when she did a programme called Utopia. Did you ever see that years ago? For any of our listeners, right, if me of when she did a programme called Utopia. Did you ever see that years ago? If any of our listeners, right, if any of you watched Utopia years ago

with Alexandra Roach... You've spoken about this before. Oh, it's flipping good. That was a programme from years ago which always stayed with me and it's the first thing I ever saw her in.

So I think, you know... Oh, okay. So yeah, I'm going to carry on. It's on BBC iPlayer. I'm going to carry on watching it. I could feel myself being drawn in and thinking, oh God, I want to know. I want to know what'm going to carry on. It's on BBC iPlayer. I'm going to carry on watching it. I could feel myself being drawn in and thinking, oh, God, I want to know.

I want to know what's going to happen. And I love Alexandra and I love Joe Rogan. Is it Joe Rogan or is he a boxer? No, Joe Rogan, I'm not sure who he is, but he's got a number one podcast. He does a podcast, doesn't he? Yeah. Yeah, he's got the biggest podcast in the world, Joe.

I believe. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. That's just hilarious. Joe Rogan is not in Night Sleeper. Okay, everyone? He's got a podcast. Joe Cole is in Night Sleeper.

But Joe Cole, am I right in saying Joe Cole was a footballer as well? Because I'm getting really confused. No, wasn't it Ashley Cole who went out with Cheryl Cole? No, Joe Cole played for West Ham, I'm sure. Really? Not saying that this Joe Cole did. Unless he's now become an actor because he had an injury. I don't know. Am I right or wrong here?

What is going on? I think it was Ashley Cole who went out with Cheryl Cole. Now I know that. But Cheryl Cole's with Cheryl Cole. Now, I know that. Is there a Joe Cole as well? But Cheryl Cole's not Cheryl Cole now, is she? No, she's just Cheryl. Tweedy. I don't think she's that anymore.

I think she's just... Is it Cheryl or Cheryl? I think she's Cheryl, but are you... Oh, maybe it is Cheryl. Cheryl. No, it's not Cheryl, is it? Cheryl Baker. Cheryl Baker.

No, it was Cheryl Baker. Yeah, she's not Cheryl, is she? No, she's Cheryl. Cheryl. No, it's not Cheryl, is it? Cheryl Baker. Cheryl Baker. No, it was Cheryl Baker. Yeah, she's not Cheryl, is she? No, she's Cheryl. Yeah, she's Cheryl. Cheryl Cole. Anyway, off the beaten track. Yes. Should we have a little listen to some recommendations? Oh, yes, please. Good morning, good afternoon, good evening whenever you're listening guys whenever you're recording even Hiya I'd say long time listener but I'm a very well behind listener only just getting up to date with you guys on your podcast and I'm absolutely loving it love that you just chat about the telly that maybe I do watch maybe I don't watch

and you've all got an actual opinion it's amazing to hear I've got a little hopefully a suggestion for you guys to watch it's an old show but it's amazing to hear. I've got a little, hopefully, a suggestion for you guys to watch. It's an old show, but it's a gold show. It's on Netflix. It is The Gilmore Girls.

It is my guilty pleasure. Yes, I am a straight male who loves The Gilmore Girls. Literally, me and my wife watch it pretty much every single night in bed. We love it. Just something about the small town

community there where you get to know all the characters it's so heartwarming and you get to watch uh one of the main characters grow from a small school girl up to a university graduate it's amazing um honestly highly recommend just watch at least a couple of episodes and you'll be hooked i I promise you. Sorry if you can't quite hear me right now. I always walk the dog. And there's the Roses, they're after me. Bye-bye.

Bye-bye-bye. Oh, bless him. I've never seen the Gilmore Girls. Neither have I. Oh, well, let's put it on. It's supposed to be one of those shows that's momentous for people, isn't it? And they always go back to it and they love it. We should check it out.

Check it out. Let's do a couple at some point. Thank you so much for that. Thank you. I hope the brothers weren't after you. I know. I hope you're not joining Sonia in prison. That's all we need.

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So please do keep sending us voice notes and messages on WhatsApp. The number 0-double-3-0-6-7-8-4-7-0-4. Honestly, we really, really appreciate it. Well, Jo, another wrap done. Wham, bam, thank you, ma'am. We've been watching The Night Sleeper. We've been watching Bad Sisters. Night Sleeper is BBC iPlayer.

Bad Sisters is Apple TV. Well, we've got our fingers crossed for winning Jamie on Strictly tomorrow night. Come on, our sexy boys. Go for it. We'll be watching you. We certainly will. And thank you for listening. We'll be back with more off the Telly next Wednesday on BBC Sounds.

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