Off The Telly - We play 'Where's Marky?' at Wimbledon

Episode Date: July 17, 2024

What are we watching? Natalie Cassidy and Joanna Page chat about all things telly.This week they chat about a new ITV series called Douglas Is Cancelled starring Hugh Bonneville, a historical retelling of a former queen called My Lady Jane on Amazon Prime, and a good old bit of Wimbledon on BBC iPlayer.In Off the Telly, Natalie and Joanna talk about what they can’t stop watching, what they definitely aren’t going to bother with, and what you’re all watching at home. From new shows to comfort telly to guilty pleasures, there’s no judgement here. What’s kept us all glued to our screens this week?Self-confessed TV addicts and stars of two of the biggest shows on our screens, EastEnders and Gavin and Stacey, Natalie and Joanna are the perfect companions to your weekly viewing habits.Timecodes for shows discussed this week are:6:20 - Douglas Is Cancelled 11:12 - My Lady Jane 20:20 - WimbledonGet in touch by sending us a message or voice note via WhatsApp to 03306 784704.Hosts: Natalie Cassidy and Joanna Page Producer: Georgia Keating Executive Producer: Pete Strauss Commissioning Editor: Rhian Roberts Unit Manager: Lucy Bannister Sounds Editor: Arlie Adlington Music by MCassoOff The Telly is a BBC Studios Audio Production for BBC Sounds.

BBC Sounds. Music, radio, podcasts. Hello and welcome to Off The Telly from BBC Sounds. I'm Natalie Cassidy. And I'm Joanna Page. And this is a podcast where we talk all things telly. Now we might have a bit of swearing and we might have some spoilers, but never mind. How have you been? Oh, quite stressed with work and sports days.

Do you know one of my sports days? Not my particular personal one because I would never do a sports day now as an adult. But one of the kids' sports days was from 10.30 in the morning till 4.30 in the afternoon. That is ludicrous. When I was young. A couple of hours. Yeah, I think it was a couple of hours in the morning. I remember doing the 100 metre sprint.

I think I did a long jump and I think that was it. I don't remember doing a sports day. Really? No. The whole shebang, yeah. We had the vortex, we had long jump, loads of running. Fantastic, though. Yeah.

That's great. Joanie missed her sports day. Oh, is she better? Yeah, she had chicken box, so she missed her sports day, which was a real shame because Mark and I were both around to go to it for once. Yes. But she missed it, so it was a shame. Was she happy or sad that she'd missed it?

Really sad. Oh, yeah, she's quite competitive, our Joanie. Yeah. But journey yeah but yeah we're over that we're over the worst of it now oh good is she still scratching and stuff no no she's been really really good yeah baths and lots of chamomile lotion she's all right bless her oh good sorry to bring it up yeah but england i know Yeah. But England. I know. What a shame. Oh my gosh. Well, it was just my stomach was going. I mean, oh, all the way through. I couldn't believe it. We got so, so far.

They did well. They did so well. But it's just that morning you wake up and you think, oh, we could win this. Yeah. And then it doesn't happen. I know. It's just so gutting isn't it gutting, I felt so sorry for all the players

yeah, but they did all so well I mean they did really really well to have got that far but then it's just gutting isn't it it's just gutting heart wrenching, especially when you see all the little kids crying when the ones that have gone there and they're watching it and they're all heartbroken and you are just with them the whole way my when they came out and it started

i was just like oh here we go here we go and you were rooting for them all the way through yeah and just that like i say that hope and that sparkle and playing it's coming home and playing all the england songs and thinking you, we could win this. And then you can't play it anymore. Yeah. It's like the day after Boxing Day when all the Christmas music goes off. It is, isn't it? Yeah.

I mean, it was something that brought us all together. We were all united. We were all like, oh, and it's just the most amazing feeling in the country then, isn't it? It's just brilliant. And then it's like, right, OK. The worst feeling over move on and you just think oh my god of what could have been can you imagine we're getting closer and closer we are so well done boys well done before we get into the telly let's have a look at some

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Okay, so this week we've been watching Douglas is Cancelled on ITV, My Lady Jane on Amazon Prime and Wimbledon on the BBC. We haven't done a sports event yet, have we? No. It's quintessential. You've got to do it. Yes, you've got to do it. You've got to. We haven't done any sports events,

but Wimbledon is just one of those that loads and loads of people are watching, even if they aren't really into sport and even if they aren't really kind of watching. It's kind of like, you know you put Wimbledon on and then it's kind of on in the background isn't it? Well you know it's July, you know the summer holidays are coming, the kids are breaking up from school.

Summer's here. Strawberries, cream. You've just got the donk, donk of the ball. I love it. Oh, I love it. Apart from the fact that I'm wearing a winter coat True And apart from the fact That it's absolutely

Pissing down with rain outside Yeah But apart from that It's lovely Apart from that Summer's here in Wimbledon Right Let's talk telly

So Douglas is cancelled You can binge the whole series On ITVX. Yeah. It says what it kind of says on the tin. I mean, I'd sort of, I was intrigued because everybody was talking about it so much.

And, you know, it was in all of the press and people were, well, some people were raving. Some people were saying, oh, it's absolute rubbish. So I was a bit like, all right, okay, let's see what it's going to be like. Yeah, it had a lot of business. It had a lot of nosiness around it. and a lot of people have been chatting about it yeah uh hugh bonneville i absolutely love i love him i love him i love him but yeah everyone in it

it's great don't get me wrong i just felt i was watching an early 90s richard curtis kind of thing i just feel was a bit dated and i just feel we don't really need another one of those. Yeah, yeah. It's about a white middle-aged man who is a newsreader. He's told an inappropriate joke at a wedding he went to and the whole show is about whether or not Paul Douglas is going to be cancelled off the show. And you just think, well, actually,

you're wondering about being quite inappropriate. You obviously are inappropriate. whether or not Paul Douglas is going to be cancelled off the show. And you just think, well, actually, you're wondering about being quite inappropriate. You obviously are inappropriate. Yes. So I don't really know why I'm watching it. It was kind of like, I kind of thought, well, I've seen this done better in The Morning Show. Which I've not yet watched. Yeah.

It's sort of like I don't see the point of it because it basically is the same as the morning show. And I think it's been done better there. Also, there were so many episodes and I'd read somewhere that the thing that he said isn't going to be revealed until the very last episode. So I watched the first episode and then saw, OK, he said something inappropriate at a wedding. He's been filmed at this wedding it's not been on air it's not been whatever but he said some inappropriate joke or gag but i found it very dated very very dated i found the way that they were speaking just doesn't seem real i just don't know i just felt when he got home and then you had the wife

going oh he always does this and sharing the bottle of wine oh you know darling what you always do i just found it all but it's really dated i thought the performances as always were great because they're you know great actors yeah they are all great but i just it just didn't do it just wasn't for me no nor me i thought it was just dated and just a bit old and kind of i don't know i've just seen it done before better yeah no i completely agree with you but it might not be our cup of tea joe but it could be your cup of tea yeah so you can catch it on itvx and let us know what you think please send us your voice notes or a message because we love getting them. And yeah, it just didn't float my boat.

But I think the more telly I'm watching... Well, I think I'm getting more Ruthless. The more telly I'm watching, it's really got to be good now to catch my attention. Well, me too as well, because now, I mean, I sat down and I started watching and normally I would have gone, right, I'd have done all of the episodes and I've gone right give it a go give it whatever and and I kind of I watched the first and I just

thought straight away I'm like a well-honed animal now I'm like a reindeer that's in the snow in the wild my senses are alert why are you a? Because I was thinking of an animal that senses are like, you know when you see deer and reindeer and they're in the woods and it's because I've been watching some other stuff and there was a close-up on an animal, a deer, in the woods and you could hear its breathing just going... Like that. And that is what I feel like now as an animal.

When you watch the telly. i watch the telly i'm so alert to okay i kind of know exactly where this is going or i know what i like i know what i don't like i'm not up for anything else now i'm sort of like boom also how many minutes does it last um you know is it getting me within the first five minutes if it isn't boom there we are that's that's how i'm feeling right now and it started i kind of knew where it was going i thought i don't think this is that much of a i just thought it was a bit slow i didn't particularly yeah i just for me i just thought oh i just want to put paddington on and watch hubon and phil and that yeah yeah i know you know what you mean i don't yeah i don't want to watch you in this yeah i'd like to watch you in Paddington, please.

Or W1A. Well, I've never seen W1A. Oh, my goodness, man. I know. That's something that... Because I'm always dropping series on you and you're like, I haven't seen it. And I'm like, oh, my God, how can you not have?

And that is something that I've never seen. It is fantastic. Right, OK. I've got to watch that. I've got to watch W1A. I love most things that lovely Hugh Bonneville's in. This just did not float my boat. Yeah, me neither.

My Lady Jane. Now, the show is a TV series based on a book that is a historical reimagining of the life of Lady Jane Grey. Yeah. Now, Lady Jane Grey, I listened to theimagining of the life of Lady Jane Grey. Yeah. Now, Lady Jane Grey, I listened to the beginning bit of the show because I really enjoyed all of... I liked, you know, the different pictures. I literally started about three years old.

I didn't. But I liked the different pictures and the graphics and how it all started and all of that, right? And Lady Jane Grey, was she beheaded? Yes. Right, from the beginning. She was only in there for a very short amount of time. Very, very short time. So this is about

what if she didn't die? And she didn't die. And what could have happened then? That is it, isn't it? Yeah. What did you think? I thought it came on and I thought, hang on a minute, I've mucked this up, Horrible Histories is on. Yeah.

I thought, wait a second, where's my remote control? I've put the wrong show on. So then I watched it and as you said, the pictures and the voiceover and then he went, and shit. And I went, oh, God, it's not Horrible Histories. And I continued, obviously the titles, and I thought, what is this programme? What is it?

I thought if you want horrible histories with oral sex, this is it. I don't want to watch horrible histories with Connie Lingus. I thought, I was kind of like, well, my first thought was, right, oh, I love the actors in it. Anna Chancellor, I think is fantastic. Yeah, she's amazing. I think she's wonderful. Emily Bader, I thought, oh, my gosh, she is so beautiful. She's wonderful Emily Bader I thought oh my gosh

she is so beautiful she's got such a lovely quality I agree she's going to work for years and years she's absolutely gorgeous lovely air about her lovely

really really again your mate's in it Rob Brydon's in it Rob Brydon I thought he was hilarious well he's hilarious in whatever he does

with his dry quips there was one particular line where Lady Jane Grey goes to like his castle and then you know Anna Chancellor and him are meeting and she goes there

and then she strides up and she goes I don't want to marry your son and I like the way that Rob turns around and just goes there's something along the lines of

nobody really cares what you think and then just walks away I thought that was great and I liked it but then what I didn't like was that I thought I don't know who it's very young and it's feisty and it's all quite young and everything

I don't know I don't know who it's aimed at yeah because I think my Eliza who is 13 would absolutely love it but I think it's inappropriate yeah there's a lot of sex in it right she's 11 and she would love seeing Lady Jane Grey be, I don't want to marry that man. I'm going to run away from home. No, Mother, I'm not doing this. I want to do my book full of potions and all of this. It reminded me a little bit of Renegade Nell.

Yes, it did. That kind of ilk. A lovely, feisty female woman who's the heroine. Yeah. Why do we have to shove a load of bloody sex in? I don't know. I don't want to see some fella going up the skirt of a bloody deserving girl. I don't want to see it.

I just don't think it's necessary. It's not, is it? I feel like a bit of a prude saying it. As I'm saying it now, I'm like, oh my God, have we got old?

But no, I don't think it's that we've got old. Why can't we just see a really feisty heroine who is strong and she doesn't want

to get married. She wants to learn, you know, and have an education. She wants to write stuff. She wants to go and fight people. And, you know, we don't have to get married. She wants to learn, you know, and have an education. She wants to write stuff. She wants to go and fight people. And, you know, we don't have to see some other serving girl having sex and some other woman.

I don't want to, I'm just bored of it. Yeah, I'm bored stiff of it, to be quite honest. It's like, why do we always have to have that little bit of sex shoved in? It's actually because it's entertained. Yeah, and it's... You can't be entertained just by a feisty woman otherwise. Yeah, when I watch a telly, I want to be entertained by the shots,

the dialogue, the words, the relationships and the plot. I don't know who I'd sit down and watch it with because me and James wouldn't sit down and watch that because I feel it's a bit too young for us. Yes. But then I wouldn't sit down and watch it with the kids, obviously, because you can't. No.

And I can't imagine, like, early 20-somethings would watch it. I don't know. Let us know, guys. I think you're probably looking at an audience of maybe 15, 16-year-olds. Yeah. Well, I'm not sure. I don't know. Oh, yeah.

Are they used to it now, all of that stuff? Yeah. Harden to it. Literally. Pardon the pun. Do you really think so? Yeah, I think it's for... What were you watching when you were 16?

I certainly was not watching anything with oral sex. I really genuinely wasn't. I don't know what was on the telly. What was I watching when I was 16? I was watching a lot of Friends. So I must have been doing GCSEs. So yeah, I'd have been watching Friends. Friends.

What else? I don't know. I think I was still watching Saved by the Bell. Me too. I'm not even joking. I was watching Friends and I didn't watch anything at all. No, you're right.

You're right. I think everything has become very desensitised. It has. And the sex thing is just very out there and in everything now. And I do think it's a little bit unnecessary. Me too. Me too. So I'm not quite sure who the audience would be.

I don't know if that's because I'm turning into a boring old woman or, I don't know, I just don't know who the audience is. I also just found the narration funny. Yeah, me too. Oh, look, you found it funny in a oh god, that's a weird way. And I found it because I quite liked, I liked the images, I liked the drawings, I didn't mind

the narration. It really just, my brain went, I can't watch this. Yeah. I don't know what it is. Was it because there were all too many things jarring going through each other? Yeah, I just went, it's no thank you. I don't know, it's horrible histories, there's swearing in it, there's sex in it, I just, my brain went, no, thank you. I don't know. It's horrible history. There's swearing in it. There's sex in it.

I just, my brain went, no, can't do it. Yeah. Yeah. However, if you love history. Yeah. And something a bit raunchy. Yes. And an easy watch with really good actors in it.

Yeah. Have a go. Really good actors. Really funny performances. You know, well written as well. Because, you know, there's gags and there's quips and, but yeah, but just the jarring of, you know, the whole sort of fun and young sort of thing with just the amount of sex.

I thought it looked really good. It did, didn't it? I think it was shot really well. And you kind of, you could feel that age. Yeah, the makeup, the costume, all of that was fantastic. I felt the house. You could feel the house. You can feel that cold and dust and that sort of time,

which I really liked to watch. I was surprised when I saw Jim Broadbent because I didn't know who was going to be in it. So when Jim Broadbent came in... Me too. He popped up and I love seeing him. Whenever he's on, he surprises and I think, oh, lovely. And he's always chosen a really amazing character choice.

You know he's done that because that character is absolutely vile. It was really nice seeing him as something, just somebody just horrible and vile and some just like le him as something just and somebody just horrible and violent some just like lecherous horrible old old man just and he did it really really well i can't help it though i just sit there and i look at him and go that's slater from only fools and horses oh my see look i don't think that i think of him this shows like where we are sort of in our lives because i now think of him as father christmas because he's's in this Christmas film that we watch with um Rafe Spall oh yeah yeah and he plays Father Christmas in it so I think of him as Father Christmas oh it's called Get Santa oh I need to watch that it's

really good yeah so seeing Jim Broadbent from Get Santa to then being this lecturous I mean the costumes and the makeup and the characters I think are really good and i was well up for it i was like this you know was really good that just the thing that jarred with me was i can't sit here and watch it with anyone because i want to sit here and watch it with the kids because they would love this anything that's to do now with history that's gruesome and the reality of it and how awful it is and the horrible things they do and then you, you know, like with Lady Jane Grey, getting her potions and all of those. I know, but that's what makes it.

I just can't watch it because of the sex. Yeah, I just feel like it was quite childlike and tweeny almost. But maybe I'm wrong. I don't know. Let me know what you think because maybe I'm completely wrong. I don't know. Maybe I'm just having a bad week, Jo. Maybe we've just got old.

We're not old. We are not old. If we were in France right now, we would be lauded because they don't, you know, worry about being old in France. But we're not old, babe. No, we're not old anyway, though, are we? You've got to stop saying that, please. You were the one who said, or was it that I then said?

It was me, wasn't it? I did say, is it that I then said it was me wasn't it I did say is it that we're old yes Jesus you've got to stop me doing that I don't even know

I'm doing it anymore I don't even know what you're doing anymore it's because you're getting old it's because I'm getting old so it's worth checking out. I mean, let us know what you think. Send us a voice note and let us know what you think

and if you've seen it. But yes, we were a bit divided on this, weren't we? Yeah, a little bit, a little bit. But you can watch all episodes of My Lady Jane on Amazon Prime. So our next one, Wimbledon. Time for a bit of nostalgia. Oh, it's just quintessentially British. So our next one, Wimbledon. Time for a bit of nostalgia. Oh, it's just quintessentially British.

Do you sit down and actually genuinely watch a whole match? I absolutely do, but this time round I've been super busy. But my other half, my mark, was there every day. Filming away. That's amazing. On Centre Court. It was at the final. Oh, my gosh. Did he enjoy it or was he quite blasé about it because he's been there every day?

I think it's a bit of both. He loves the job and he feels very honoured to be doing the job. But, yeah, he's done it for a few years now. But it's lovely. It's two weeks of the year that he knows what he's doing and what's coming up and, yeah, he loves it. Is it's two weeks of the year that he knows what he's doing and what's coming up and yeah he loves it is it difficult for him because is the camera fixed in one position there's a lot so they all does he have to move it yeah so that the shot they all rotate around so you can have you've got wide shots you've got ball follow you've got slow-mo camera oh my god

do they take it in turns and they rotate and they all go around. So, yeah. God. So, there's a lot of skill involved. Yeah, there is, isn't there? They're all amazing. Oh, my God. It's really, really good. It must be difficult because with the ball going so fast and then also getting a close-up to see if it's out. Oh, absolutely, yeah.

And then, you know, if it's like, I mean, imagine if it's match point and you didn't get the actual shot. That would be awful. I think that, you know, you've got to be good to get on centre court. I don't think they're pulling off, like, so-and-so with their iPhone. Got to pop on centre court today, film a bit of the final. Some old grandad that's been given the job of filming somebody's wedding in the 1980s and he walks around and he's just filmed the floor.

We play, where's Mark? Where's Daddy? Like, where's Wally? So he'll say, I'm on cameras. You know, if he's on the wide shot, which is when you're watching the television, you can see two cameras right at the back. So if he's on the wide shot, we can spot Daddy. Oh my God. So can you see him? You can actually see him? Yeah, I can see him. Well, I'm going to start playing it now. I'm going to see if I can... Where's Marky?

Where's Marky? So, yeah, but they rotate round, all the cameramen. It's really lovely. It's a really lovely job to do. Very prestigious. Very, very nice one. So, yes, I love to sit down and watch the matches. But, yeah, I feel like the weather's got in the way a bit

because usually the French doors are open and it's lovely and warm and you have it quite loud and then you can be in the garden and sit there. Yes. But I have been absolutely run off my feet. Yeah. And not had loads of time. But I am trying to watch what I can. Murray's last match, doubles match, with his brother.

Oh. So he was injured but he said, I'm going to play the doubles. Yes. But you kind of knew there was this atmosphere. Oh. So he was injured, but he said, I'm going to play the doubles. Yes. But you kind of knew there was this atmosphere. Yes. His kids were there with his wife, mum, dad. Everyone was there. They lost the match.

They lost the doubles match. But he kind of knew that was going to be the last time he'd ever play. Yeah. Sue Barker came out of retirement to interview him because she'd been there for all of his wins throughout the years and it was just really, really emotional Oh God, was it lovely I honestly highly recommend

have a little look at the highlights of it and the way he embraced his brother his brother was crying he came out and was really relaxed at one point and he said to Sue Barker she said, what was the favourite, you know, when you won Wimbledon the second time round, I think it was 2016, he said, when you won it the second time round, were you more relaxed than the first time?

And he said, absolutely. It was so stressful the first time round. I didn't enjoy it at all. And then he came out, Weave, second time round. Can't really remember much. And I vomited in the back of the cab on the way home. Oh, my God. Really? So it's not just us the way home oh my god really so it's not just us Jo that do this it's not just us

and he marries with us all the way oh my god wow yeah oh my god he came out everyone was laughing away oh my god but it was really relaxed and it was absolutely lovely to watch

and you saw him pick all his bag up and walk off and just think wow wow what a moment who do we have now then who are our ones absolutely lovely to watch and you saw him pick all his bag up and walk off and just think wow wow what a moment who do we have now then who are our ones from this country

because I don't know now I I've never been like a massive Wimbledon watcher where I will you know go there

and get tickets and sit down and watch I did it I went last year did you I absolutely loved it I went with my mother-in-law for the day

and it was a fantastic day highly recommend it how long does the day last oh all Did you? What was it like? I absolutely loved it. I went with my mother-in-law for the day and it was a fantastic day. How long does the day last? Highly recommend it. Oh, all day. You go really early. There's loads to do. You walk around. It's absolutely immaculate.

Yeah. Every blade of grass is just perfect. And you walk around and you have your Pimms and like you say, your strawberries and cream. Everything's very expensive. Is it? Does it cost a fortune? Isn't everywhere. Yes.

But you have a lovely day and then you can come in and out and watch what games. Oh, God, that's nice. It is a really lovely day. And I don't think you have to love tennis. But, you know, it's nice to have an interest. Because Wimbledon for me is when I was small and I just remember it would be on and my parents would really be into it and they would watch the matches

and it was just sort of the noise from the TV and just the atmosphere. The clapping. Yeah, the little clapping like that. And it just reminds me of being small. Yeah, so that's your nostalgia. See, my mum and dad didn't really like the tennis, so for me that memory isn't there really.

For me, it was more golf for that and snooker. Yeah. The clapping and the crucible and the balls. So I know what you mean. It's that lovely. Yeah, it's just the noises, isn't it? Just the noises of it. Yeah.

I've had it on in the background because it feels like it is something that has to be on. The kids have to be introduced to it it's like no this is something that it has to be on when it's wimbledon time but i don't understand i don't know who i'm watching what i'm watching do you get the rules yes yes yes i think yes i think i do you just go up to 40 don't you and if you both get 40 at the same time it goes to juice then you have to get advantage and then you get the point and then it's up to six isn't it before you get that whole game or something and then i don't know how many games you have to get to the game set match but which is like how so you win the game is it first uh how many is it there's got to be a gap of two

games so there's got to be a gap of two games. Right. Have you seen the really, I don't know, like you said, it's all in the background, but they've got these really large, giant tennis balls and people are signing them,

but they look so fun. I want one on a shelf. I said, Mark, do us a favour. Yes. So pick up one of those big, I can't do that.

I said, just get a ball and get Djokovic to sign it. I'm not asking for much. Oh my God. I am a bit. But come on, just get a ball and get Djokovic to sign it. I'm not asking for much. Oh, my God. I am a bit. But come on, get me a ball. Oh, come on, he's got to.

He's there. I just want one of the large balls. Can't he steal Djokovic's tower? I said, and then you've got to come... He said, then I've got to come home with it, the big ball. I said, it's all right. Chuck it in a carrier bag or something. He should just put it under his jumper.

Bless him. He's got his rucksack. And I'm asking... He's really working hard. And I'm asking, he's really working hard. And I'm like, could you get me any silver days? Most people would be asking for just like a small tennis ball that Djokovic has like just hit or something. You want the gigantic one.

I mean, it's not that big. I'm exaggerating size, but you know. Oh my God. Not as big as my head. Well, I was going to say that's big it is charming is it oops

fed up with it oh but I would say you've got to watch Wimbledon oh it's just lovely to be I just think it's a really lovely thing

to watch everyone looks really smart Dustin Hoffman was there the other day and Mark said he was really sprightly and kind of really friendly. And when you saw him smile on screen, because he was in the Royal Box, so you get loads of different characters in the Royal Box, you know, each day.

So you can have a little star spot, see what they're wearing. But he just looked, when he smiled, his face lit up. And it was like watching Meet the Fockers again. He's really stayed quite young. Yeah. He had a real sparkle in his eye. Isn't it funny? There is something about Dustin Hoffman, isn't there He's really stayed quite young. Yeah. He had a real sparkle in his eye. Isn't it funny? There is something about Dustin Hoffman, isn't there?

Yeah, very much so. Yeah. Very much so. You just think, oh, but he's really lovely and sweet. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. But they've all looked lovely and, you know. I think I used to watch more of it when I was younger.

You know when it was Agassi? Oh, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. I used to watch it then. And as I've grown older, I don't really know who plays animal. Yeah, I'm the opposite. Really. Yeah. Well, I just think it's so exciting to see Emma Raducanu now, and as I've grown older I don't really know who plays animal really yeah well I just think

it's so exciting to see Emma Raducanu now although she's been injured she is really now coming up and she's going to be one to watch

and I think she's the one we're all going to have our eyes peeled on next year oh god yes so exciting let us know if you love it let us know if you've been this year

or you've got any funny stories about when you went there oh they're dress codes and stuff. I don't think you're allowed to wear a hat or something. No, hats are okay, I believe, but not, I think, when you're sat down. But that's just etiquette, isn't it, anyway, I think.

But it's nice to be smart. What did you wear? Oh, I wore a beautiful floral suit, trouser suit. Oh, nice. Really lovely. White, but with lots of flowers on, printed. Yeah. What did you wear on your feet?

Because I would be thinking... Good idea. Because I go, no, I'm not doing a heel. Oh, no. Because it's the whole day. It's going to be sunny. I want to have my Pimms. I'm eating strawberries.

I can't be doing with a heel today. Oh, so I was two hours on the train from home. Yeah. No heels allowed. Nice pair of trainers. Yeah. But smart. Yes.

But underneath kind of a loose, long trouser. Can't really see them. Yes, yes. Could be anything underneath. Yeah. Could be, couldn't there? Yeah. But smart, but underneath kind of a loose, long trouser. Can't really see them. Yes, yes. Could be anything underneath. Yeah, could be, couldn't there? Yeah. Oh. So you can catch all of the highlights of Wimbledon this year on iPlayer.

Right then, let's hear some of our recommendations we've got from our listeners. Hi, Natalie and Joanna. I'm loving the podcast and I listen every week. Your friendship seems so genuine and I love that and I never know where the conversation is going to go. Nipples, feet, bird poo, nothing is off the table. You're quite right, Sam, actually. I wanted to recommend a show I recently watched on Disney+.

It's called Extraordinary and is set in a world where everyone has superpowers, but the main character, Jen, doesn't have hers yet. It's really funny with some proper laugh out loud moments, but it's also really grounded and relatable. It can be quite adult at times, so it's probably not one to watch with the kids, but I would 100% recommend it if you're looking for a feel-good comedy. Thank you so much for the amazing recommendations and keeping me That's lovely. Well, I'll check that one out. It reminds me, do you remember Heroes?

Did you ever watch Heroes? No, but I've heard of it. Oh, my God. That was something, right? When me and James still used to watch TV together before, we had so many children. Yes. Right, we've also now got a voice note from Sian with a recommendation.

Lovely. Derry Girls on Netflix. I watched it before I got madly into Bridgerton, but it's got Nicola Copland in it, who is Penelope in Bridgerton. And I just absolutely loved this show, the music and the context behind it with the troubles in Northern Ireland. And I had no idea growing up that this was happening literally within my lifetime. I was completely blind to it. So having this on Netflix, like you said, drama can be so informative, can't it?

So yeah, I found this just really moving, really funny. But my gosh, the very end of it really got me. So I really recommend you watching it right to the end. Really funny, really moving, great music. So real 90s classics in there um thank you so much for the podcast my husband um started listening to it before I did and he recommended it and whenever I listen to it I just smile just like I love your humor I love your attitude towards life both of you love how smiley and bubbly and sunshiny you are, Joanna. I love the swearing and the dry humour of Natalie.

You just go together so well. So thank you so much for this podcast. And yeah, looking forward to seeing if you watch Derry Girls. Oh, thank you. Thank you so much. I think, can we do Derry Girls? Because I've only seen bits of it. I've never seen it.

I would love to do it yeah everyone that I've ever spoken to about it raves about it it's one of those ones so I'd love to do it yeah

I think we should definitely watch it yeah definitely so thank you so much and she's right you know because you've got

the history there and it's all about Northern Ireland yeah it is lovely I like to watch a show which has a bit of that in it because you're learning

at the same time as enjoying it yeah so I'm up for it. Thank you so much for your messages and voice notes. Honestly, we love hearing what you lot think at home and it doesn't go unnoticed that you take the time to get in touch with us. You know, it's not easy.

It's not, is it? You've got to think how busy people are now. Yes. So for you to take the time to jot down the number, to go into your phone, you know what I mean? So thank you. We do really mean that. It's really lovely, isn't it?

It's really, really touching. Yeah, it's so exciting and it is so nice because we feel like you're just sitting here as well, just chatting. Because now I just talk and I just feel like there's just, well, I'm just chatting to everybody else. Well, and the more we hear from you, the more we're building this little community

for Off The Telly, and it's just so lovely. And it's great having your recommendations. It's really nice watching something that you've said that you like, and then we think, oh God, what do we think of it? And then when we recommend things to you, and we're like, well, we didn't enjoy it, what do you think?

Oh, it's like a little telly club. It is, isn't it? Isn't it? Yeah. A little telly club, like people have a book club. It's us, like we're having a little chatclub. It is, isn't it? Isn't it? Yeah. A little teleclub, like people have a book club. It's us all having a little chat about what we're watching. And life is just so flipping busy and stressful and it's nice just sitting down and having a chat, isn't it?

It is really lovely. I do love these hours that we get together. Yeah. I really, really do. So the recommendations, as we've said, are integral to the pod. Don't get me wrong, we're not going to cover all of them all the time, but we've got them on a list and at some point we might do. So don't be disheartened if, you know,

you recommend something one week and we haven't done it yet. They are all being written down and they're not going unnoticed. I know. They're not at all. Also, I have an announcement. We've got another bonus episode of Off the Telly, What Shall We Watch? dropping this Friday. You've sent so many good voice notes about your favourite detectives,

so this one is all about super sleuths. Now, I love a good detective, and so I can't wait to get into your voice notes. Nat, who's your favourite detective? Oh, it's really, really hard. Because, again, for me, it goes back to childhood. It goes back to Poirot, and it goes back to Columbo. I do love a bit of Sherlock as well.

So I can't wait to have a chat to you about this episode. Oh, it's going to be a good one. There's so many. It'll be really, really good. And I cannot wait to listen to other people's. Yes. I love it. That's like my favourite, just sitting here,

listening to the voice notes, and it just brings up so many memories. And then you think of ones that you've never thought of before. I know, I know. It's absolutely brilliant. Well, that is enough telly this week. We really love hearing from you guys, so please do keep sending your messages and voice notes on WhatsApp. The number is 033 067 84 704. This week we've been watching Douglas' Cancelled on ITVX,

My Lady Jane on Amazon Prime and Wimbledon on BBC iPlayer. Thank you so much for listening. Remember to look out for What Shall We Watch? all about your favourite detectives and that's dropping on Friday. And we'll be back with more Off The Telly next Wednesday on BBC Sounds. Bye! Bye! Off the Telly is hosted by Natalie Cassidy and Joanna Page. The producer is Georgia Keating.

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