Off The Telly - "What would you have in your bunker?"

Episode Date: July 24, 2024

What are we watching? Natalie Cassidy and Joanna Page chat about all things telly.This week they chat about hit show The Last of Us on NOW, The Misadventures of Romesh Ranganathan on BBC iPlayer, and a French thriller called Lupin on Netflix.In Off the Telly, Natalie and Joanna talk about what they can’t stop watching, what they definitely aren’t going to bother with, and what you’re all watching at home. From new shows to comfort telly to guilty pleasures, there’s no judgement here. What’s kept us all glued to our screens this week?Self-confessed TV addicts and stars of two of the biggest shows on our screens, EastEnders and Gavin and Stacey, Natalie and Joanna are the perfect companions to your weekly viewing habits.Timecodes for shows discussed this week are:3:02 - The Last of Us 12:07 - The Misadventures of Romesh Ranganathan 21:09 - LupinGet in touch by sending us a message or voice note via WhatsApp to 03306 784704.Hosts: Natalie Cassidy and Joanna Page Producer: Georgia Keating Executive Producer: Richard Morris Commissioning Editor: Rhian Roberts Unit Manager: Lucy Bannister Sounds Editor: Arlie Adlington Music by MCassoOff The Telly is a BBC Studios Audio Production for BBC Sounds.

BBC Sounds. Music, radio, podcasts. Hello and welcome to Off The Telly from BBC Sounds. I'm Natalie Cassidy. And I'm Joanna Page. And this is the podcast where we have a lovely old catch-up about telly that we've been watching this week. Now we might swear a bit and we might have some spoilers because sometimes we just can't contain ourselves. We can't help it, Jo.

We can't, can we? Are you all right? I'm very good, thank you. I've just had a slice of lemon cake. Oh, lovely. So I feel quite nice. I do love a little afternoon pick-me-up, do you? Yes, I do.

I do. It's nice, isn't it?, do you? Yes, I do. I do. It's nice, isn't it? It is. Isn't it nice having the time to just sort of go, oh, you know what, let's sit down and have a cup of tea. There is nothing better than a cup of tea and be it a little chocolate cake, a little carrot cake, a little cookie, a couple of biscuits.

Chocolate eclair. Oh. Nice. I hope everyone is going to go and put the kettle on. Yeah. And have a little treat and listen to us. Yes. What a good idea.

We'd better perform well then. Now, before we get into this week's telly, I want to play this voice note from Linda, who's watched a show you were talking about the other week, Jo. Oh. Have a listen to this. Hi, Jo and Nat. It's Linda from Bonnie, Scotland.

You mentioned the programme that Jo's husband was in, The Lakes. week joe have a listen to this hi joe and nat it's linda from bonnie scotland you mentioned the program that joe's husband was in the lake so um i've just watched every episode and it's still as good as what i remembered it to be thanks for the recommendation bye oh there you go oh my god linda's gone back i feel feel like Linda's voice is wonderful. Yes. Maybe we should maybe have that on our phone because remember we were doing those terrible Scottish accents. Yes, we were trying to do a Scottish accent.

Maybe we should just ask Linda to give us a hand. We should because she had a really nice, smooth Scottish accent there. I've just been watching all of the episodes of The Lakes on YouTube and it was just as good as I remembered it. Oh, it's not bad. It got better. There you go. That's purely just from listening to Linda.

By year. By year? By year. By year. Over by year. In my year, over by year, next year. Year. Year.

That's not Scottish. No. But, you know, in my year is what you'd say. Right. I'm getting there. I'm getting there. Yes. Yes, you are. I've noticed you still haven't done your Scottish accent. I don't join that. It's Linda from Bonnie's Scotland.

That's good. I think that's good. With my Welsh ear listening, I think that's good. Nothing like a bit of positivity. So, what are we going to be talking about this week? We've been watching The Last of Us on Now, The Misadventures of Romesh Ranganathan on BBC iPlayer and Lupin on Netflix.

Right, let's talk telly. I would like to start with The Last of Us because I've got quite mixed feelings about it. That to me just makes me think that you're going to go, it was awful. I don't think you ever have mixed feelings. No, I have. I think it's just that it's awful.

No, I promise you, I've got really mixed feelings about it. Yeah. I sat down and I started it. I actually did a bit of homework. Yeah. So I had a little Google and I just wanted to look because obviously it was on before and it's something yeah we're quite late to the game you recommended this didn't you this was a recommendation from me but actually saying

that right I I hadn't you know what I didn't watch it when it first came out no no no no but you you wanted to yeah so so anyway I looked and I realised that it's from, I never knew that they have made this show and it was a computer game, a huge computer game. And then I started reading that over 40 million people watched episode one. Oh, my God, I didn't even know that. Well, you know, not when it first came out, it was 4 million or something, but 40 million over time. And anyway, really, really interesting.

So I've put it on. And at first I thought, oh, this is a bit slow and I'm not quite sure, but I liked it. I thought this is quite slow. And then when it got into the fact that there was something apocalyptic happening, I shit myself. So do you think it's good or not i think it's absolutely amazing i think and then i thought

why is it a computer game and when they got in the car oh yeah and they were driving in the traffic and they're going over the field and there's helicopters and all that. I felt like I was in a computer game. Yeah. I genuinely, you know, I used to play Grand Theft Auto as a child and stuff like that. So I was like, this is so clever. Yeah. I felt like I was immersed in that world.

I thought it was incredible. The shots incredible. The effects were amazing. Everything amazing. But once they got to the part where the police were in the field and the car had been blown over and the friend said, just leave me, you know, let me go, what have you. And he was carrying his daughter.

Yeah. And his daughter gets shot. I had to turn it off, Jo. Is that as far as you've got? I couldn't do any more. Oh, my God. I felt so stressed by it. Yeah.

I thought it was really good. Mm-hmm. I just need, I think, to go back to it, maybe watch it with Mark. Mm-hmm. I don't know. It really upset me. At that point, I had tears in my eyes.

Yeah. I was sort of short of breath. I just thought, I don't know if I can do this sort of show. Yeah, it is quite stressful. But you tell me because you've done loads. I'm on episode nine now. I really want you

to tell me about it. So guys, there might be spoilers in this, but please could you tell me? So I didn't watch it when it first came out, but I heard all about it. I'd never played

the computer game or anything, but I heard all of the talk. I love Pedro Pascal. He's amazing. Because if you basically are going to go into like a zombie apocalypse i'd want to go in with the mandalorian because i'd be like okay he can help me and i just think he's fab anyway a friend of mine tim we were talking about our favorite ever episodes of anything and he said in my top top ever you know like favorite episodes of anything is episode three of the last of us and he said it's just the most amazing episode of television I think I've ever watched so I thought

right okay I want to see why he thinks it's so good I'm going to have to watch it from the first episode so that is why I started watching it and it is my cup of tea I mean you know I love stuff like this I love things that are going to scare me but that you know it's my cup of tea. I mean, you know, I love stuff like this. I love things that are going to scare me, but that, you know, it's some sort of apocalypse type thing. And it's just like a normal man and his daughter and they're just living life normally. And there's this sort of fungus thing, which has come from like sort of some fungus,

which has gone into like the flower. Because normally in zombie things, it's, I don't know, weird, stupid things, how it starts. But this is kind of a bit more believable. It is. They start in a newsroom. It's scientific. hour in because normally in zombie things it's I don't know weird stupid things how it starts but this is kind of a bit more believable too so start in a newsroom scientific it's a scientist talking about this fungi yes yeah and then the fungus sort of um comes out then and it starts affecting people and then that makes them then get this rage and go mad and then that's why they then start running around and biting and attacking people and then that's how the whole zombie

thing starts and the way that the world is sort of changing and going quite weird sometimes i think i don't know if we're very that far from it oh don't i know but it started making me get really quite um scared it really did it made me panic it gets sort of scarier and worse and then it gets really quite sad then in the first episode so bella ramsey plays the character of ellie yes and the last time I saw them, they were in The Worst Witch on, I think it was, I think it was on CBBC. CBBC, yeah. And they are the most amazing actor. And the relationship between Pedro and Bella is just so beautiful.

They're not related. They've ended up through different circumstances finding each other and then they're now on this journey together and i'm just full-on into it i'm on episode nine i'm finding it difficult to watch now because it is just making me think about oh my god what would happen how would you protect your family what would you do what would you know well let's not get let's not get down about it joe let's not get down about it, Jo. Let's not get down about it. No, I want to ask you, right? Yeah.

What would you have in your bunker? You're on your own. Yes. And you can set up a little bunker. You can't go crazy, though. It's not like swimming pools, you know. Be realistic. You're in a room.

You're on your own. What would you have in your bunker? I would have a little single bed with a comfy mattress and lots of blankets, but with a canopy over it so I felt safe. I would have a TV with loads of different films and shows, which would still be somehow streaming. If not, I'd have got them all on DVD beforehand. Oh, DVDs, yeah, fine.

Yeah. I probably would have loads and loads of tubs of chocolate spread and peanut butter, because it lasts for ages, and have loads of tins of stuff. I probably would have some lucasade and lots of bottled water. But if I got my area up and running

purely just by myself, I probably would get water from, not a what's it called a well i would get water from a well um loads of toilet roll some cheese would be nice red wine crisps now i feel like now you're just creating that basically right it's just like that's like your house isn't it that's like a hotel room if i've got to go away to work away from the children that basically right when i'm doing the christmas special of gavin and stacy that basically is going to be what i make my hotel room like perfect absolutely brilliant when i was going for the more simplistic approach

Thinking, you know, just sensibly And mine was going to be a weapon of some kind What weapon would you choose? I quite fancy a bow and arrow I don't think that would do, like I don't think it would protect you that much from a running zombie Because like how many arrows? That would do, like, I don't think it would protect you that much from a running zombie. Because, like, how many arrows?

You'd have to keep, you'd have to have a shitload of arrows. Of a lot. Yeah. Of a lot. So what else? I will actually, I will let you do your thing without criticising. No, no, no, it's not criticising. Yeah, no, I'd go bow and arrow. Yeah.

Also, just because I could have a bit of fun with it. Yeah. And I loved Robin Hood. True, yes. So, you know, just give me that memory. I would go for probably some tinned food, like you say. Maybe some Spam. Yes.

Maybe some tuna. Corned beef. Nice little bed. Unlimited gin and tonic and I'll be all right. You could have loads of cans of gin and tonic, couldn't you? Be all right, wouldn't it? Well, I think that we would be sorted if there was a zombie apocalypse, wouldn't we? We'd be fine, wouldn't we?

I think we'd be all right. But I'm loving it. I'm on episode nine. I would recommend anybody to watch it because now I've got through to episode nine as well. It's not really so much now about zombies featuring all the time it's kind of about entering different communities will they accept you won't they what's the dangers well which is honestly i was really frightened and i just was put off because it was upsetting yeah but i thought it was amazing i've not seen that quality that production value in anything else i just thought

it was different to anything I've seen before and I thought it was brilliant. Really great. Well, you can watch all of Series 1 on now at the moment and I think they're making Series 2 as well. As we speak, I think they're doing Series 2. Oh, I can't wait. Listeners, what do you think? Send us a message or even better, leave

us a voice note, please. We'll let you know the number at the end of the show. So our next one is The Misadventures of Romesh Ranganathan. You know, halfway through watching it, I actually did think I could marry this man. Yeah. I think he is absolutely wonderful. He is one of my favourite comedians.

He's very clever, very intelligent. I just think he's got a really... Well, it's why he's been doing this series, obviously. Four series he's done of this. Four. Wow. I just think he's a really likeable, lovable man. He's so...

He's kind. He's warm-hearted. Yeah. He's got a good soul. He's kind to people. But he's really, really funny. Yeah, I agree with you. And this is just a series. It's a good soul. He's kind to people, but he's really, really funny. Yeah, I agree with you. And this is just a series.

It's a documentary series. He goes all around the world and he goes to places and he meets the people of the places he's in and just gets to know their culture, the community, and just has a really lovely time, fun, different things. And it's normally places that have had a bit of a bad rap, isn't it? Yes. It's places where when you hear, you know, the name of the place,

you go, oh, my God, it's dangerous there. Oh, God, it's really violent there. And he's gone there to see if they really are as dangerous or violent or, you know, is that what it's really like? So the one I tuned in to watch was Madagascar, which is the last one that's been on. Oh, my God god it was just so interesting I was just seeing it through his eyes and just the relationship that he had with his

like tour guide you know the fella who was going around with him was so lovely that had a very long name didn't it the capital did you see him when they did the whole bit oh my god he was so lovely with the fella that he was with when they were eating cock soup. I did see the bit with the cock soup. And then, but the poor fella who, in the end, when Romesh said, actually, I can tell from your eyes, you don't actually eat this, do you? And the fella went, no, I don't. And then he was kind of like, can I not eat any more now? It's just, it's so interesting just seeing the other cultures, you know, learning history.

I mean, learning about the queen who basically killed so many millions of people in Madagascar. And if she didn't like you, she basically would throw you off the edge of the cliff. I sat there and I watched it with Eva because and I know that there's a bit of swearing in it. Not really awful, but there's the odd F word every now and then. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But she found it so interesting. I loved it. odd f word every now and then yeah yeah yeah but she found it so interesting oh i really really want um eliza to watch it with me because again it's you're just learning you're learning for

entertainment and i think those shows are so good they are so good to sit down they look beautiful yeah you know who's gonna i might never go toagascar, but you're there and you can really see it. And I just love that. I love that about the magic of television now. Ramesh is like us because he is sort of like the everyman who... He doesn't pretend that he knows everything or that he's good at everything. Most of the time, he's pretty shit at stuff. And that's what's funny. And then he learns something or, you know,

it's funny watching him mess up or try and do something and it's a bit like, oh my God, I could never do that. Yeah, he's just really, really endearing. And I think that's what makes it so nice. He's got a star quality about him. I love him on Radio 2. I listen to him on Radio 2 on Saturday mornings. He's on The Weakest Link.

He does a Sky show with Rob, doesn't he? I mean, he doesn't stop working funny what about when they went to see the shaman who was going to conjure up the spirits from the trees and they brought some lemonade and um coke as a gift i didn't see that well he brought some lemonade and coke yeah pop fizzy pop as a gift and then the shaman sat there and was waiting to you know conjure up the spirits from the trees. And Romesh was just saying, it was just so funny the way that he words things.

He was saying, you know, I was listening, you know, when everybody was doing a dance and trying to summon up the spirits. And he said, what I wasn't expecting to hear was the sound of a Bluetooth connecting. Bluetooth connect. And then they go through then this playlist of all the different songs trying to conjure up the spirits and which song will the spirit like and then the um the shaman just goes no no i don't like any of them it's not kind of this but no i just don't want to do it and then

he stands and just gives this piece to camera just saying on lots of shows you know the bbc would have turned up and gone oh wow you know this was happening the spirits were coming and all of this is going on. But in this one, the fella's just gone, no, it's not happening today. That's absolutely nothing to see and we're just going to have to go home. And he said, so that probably shows that it really is true because, you know, this is what the reality is. That is brilliant. I watched some of the Rwanda episode.

Oh, what was that like? It was really, really touching. Quite upsetting as well because of what the country's been through. But to see Romesh, you know, he's quite emotional looking at the history and what have you. I won't go into, but it's really, really good. But what I love about what he does, and obviously it's really well made, so it's edited really well, so you've got your serious moments,

the learning parts and emotional parts. But there's one part where they go and the community there is unbelievable right so everybody has been affected by trauma in some way so he goes to there's a there's a community you know he goes to this little couple of streets what have you and he's there and they all litter pick together oh yeah so they all come out and they all chuck a load of rubbish down, you know. So they chuck a load of rubbish down for Romesh out of a bag and he's just litter picking. Yeah. And this wonderful guy is sat on the floor going,

well done, Rom, like, you know, from the village. And he's just stood there, you know, really, really dry look, you know, over his glasses looking and he's just picking up litter. And someone says, I think it's the cameraman or whatever. What do you think about this experience, Ramesh? He says, well, I think it's amazing that this happens here, but we could never do this in the UK. None of the community are going to come around.

None of your neighbours are going to get up on a Sunday morning and tip a load of rubbish out and we all pick it up. It's never going to happen. And then there was another point where they were there were some lovely people who had an interest in art. So they were making these amazing, you know, just

experimenting with materials they've got and what have you. Beautiful kind of you know, ornaments that were put outside their houses and what have you and mama was like is that cow poo they were like yeah because it's quite strong and durable in the rain and what have you and the sun it starts pouring with rain and he's standing in the rain with like a pile of cow shit and they go into someone's house yeah because the cow shit will get ruined if it gets wet yeah at this stage and he's just standing there and he says only in Rwanda would you be able

to have a pile of cow shit in your hand knock on a stranger's door and then let you in because it's raining. But it's just the way he says things. He's so dry. And again, just eye-opening. Rwanda, I mean, I know that obviously it's just a pocket that we're watching, but oh my God, people are so positive. Yeah. Everyone there seems to just turn everything into a smile. And I think this country needs some of it because we do not realise

how lucky we are and it's actually quite embarrassing When I was watching the Madagascar one he was saying about all the young little boys and they had built their own little boats and then they were doing them on the water and everything and then he was saying about you know like in this country

how we're all in computer games and all of that stuff and everything and I just did think it is funny isn't it because when you are somewhere and we have so much we get given so much we buy so much and and you just don't appreciate it do you and how it doesn't particularly make you feel all that happy you know and it is you know when you go somewhere where people have had really awful things happen and it is, you know, like people just see the good then, don't they? I mean, that's a whole generalisation. But if, you know, people have been through traumas and stuff and you'll go there and then people are happy and they're positive. And because, you know, that's what they've got to cling through. And that's, you know, what they see in everything.

It's just amazing. Absolutely amazing. And the whole show, I, what they see in everything. It's just amazing. Absolutely amazing. And the whole show, I've not watched many of these at all. Me neither. So I want to go back, choose the places I want to talk about, get Eliza to watch it. I just think it's a firm favourite. I'd say family favourite.

Like you say, there's a little bit of swearing in it, but it's not too bad. I don't mind the swearing. I think I'll get everybody to sit down and watch it because it's really good. Yeah. I would watch anything that he's in it. And it's Romesh. Yeah. I would watch anything that he's in. His show with Rob Beckett, it makes me cry with laughter.

So, yeah, absolutely banger of a show. Romesh can do no harm in our eyes. Yeah. He's fantastic. Amazing. So you can catch up on all four series on BBC iPlayer. Lovely show. fantastic so you can catch up on all four series on BBC iPlayer lovely show now a few weeks ago we had our lovely listener Claire recommend that we watch subtitled shows

and she strongly recommended Lupin on Netflix and it's in French it's English subtitles but it's all in French so I put it on and I love watching subtitled things. Yes. But normally, and sort of like the detective-y sort of, you know, shows I watch, it's normally a murder. And there's some sort of, you know, there's a mystery, there's a murder. The series goes on, who's the murderer? And so, to be honest, I've never watched one where it's like a sort of you know stealing and yeah you know stealing the jewels and stealing all of that so when it first started I and when I sort of thought oh god right so it's

Lupin and so he's taken that name from a book that he was given by I think it's his father years and years and years ago who was like this you know um uh master thief yes and as a young boy he took on you know that kind of persona and he now is, in his mind now he has become... Did he get the book? He got the book, didn't he? Yeah. I can't remember that bit. Yeah, it's in the beginning

sometime and his father then is put in prison and hangs himself, doesn't he? But hang on a second I'm such a dickhead Wait, have you watched The Wrong Thing? No, not at all I'm just a dickhead

What have you done? I have watched the whole of episode one, I absolutely loved it but I did not fucking realise that the young Hassan, that I was watching, for some I don't know what happened You didn't know that the young one is now the. For some, I don't know what happened. I don't know what's happened.

You didn't know that the young one is now the old one. No, I watched it as if, I was watching it as if that was going on. Yes. And that was going on. Yes. But now it all makes perfect sense to me. And that's very unlike me. I have to say to you, I put this on.

I bloody loved it. I cannot wait to watch the next one. I love the fact that at the beginning you saw him with the wife. I know. With the ex, probably. But what did you like? No, sorry, carry on because I'm interrupting you. No, I was just going to say I like the fact that he was kind of a trier

and he wanted to try. And then you can see him fiddling with a receipt or whatever. And she walked out and he's given her some money by secret and made her a flower out of a receipt. So immediately you go, oh, you're quite quick. Yes. A slight of hand and all of that. Yes, yeah.

And then you kind of, you know, you're into the story. And I love the way it jumps around. It makes perfect bloody sense now. And I understand. So we've gone back and he was a little boy and he got given the book. Yes, yes, yes yes yes on there now but i just loved the unfolding of the the whole robbery at the louvre just all of it the ferrari going in the roof but then when at the end yes he started to read the book and then you saw how he did it, I thought this is my cup of tea. And I loved the sleight of hand with the necklace,

Marie Antoinette's necklace, into the bin, throwing the one that he'd got made fake. I really liked it. I really, really enjoyed it. I've only done episode one, but I will definitely, I'm going to carry this on because I really liked it I've really really enjoyed it I've only done episode one but I will definitely I'm going to carry this on because I really loved it

and I thought that acting in it was amazing I was the same I've only done the first episode and I can't wait to watch the rest when I found out

that it wasn't like some murder type thing that it's you know like a thief and everything I was a bit like oh god I don't know

if this is going to be a bit boring I don't know if you know if that's holding me in it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I started watching it and I was pulled in straight away. I thought he was very charismatic

and I liked watching him. And then I did have to laugh when he first met his, you know, when he was meeting his ex-wife and how he's not given her the money. He's late on the child maintenance and he's a bit like she says, oh, you're a bit all over the place or have you got a job yet or whatever and and i was kind of like laughing a bit because i was like if that was real life i think you'd be pissed off

you'd be like have you got a job yet you are late on the child maintenance yeah you know i've been waiting a couple of weeks for the money and i need to pay for some school shoes and stuff he's pissing me off and i know this is what you're like but she did it with like a little she was very nice to him she was lovely to him and she was a bit like oh you know what you are i know you're late with it again and and i thought she wouldn't be like that in real life but i quite like the whole frenchness of it and i liked her mac and her hair so i was just like i quite like this whole vibe and i was drawn in by him i thought he was incredibly charismatic and as it was unfolded i was like oh i, I was just drawn in, drawn in.

I just wonder where we're going next. Well, me too. And what he's going to get himself into. Is it always stealing things? I don't know, where is he going next? I don't know, but yeah, he's an amazing thief, this guy. I like it. He changes himself and it's all that kind of stuff.

So, yeah, I'm really... I'm interested. I'm in interested i'm in i'm in for episode two i want to know what's going on i like it let us know what you think really really enjoyable exciting first hour that was my favorite this week yes absolutely i think it yeah no the last of us was mine my favorite this week oh no no you know what? This week has been a cracking week. I would recommend every single thing we have watched this week as being really flipping good. So would I. I mean, we've had a couple of shocking weeks.

We have had a couple of hard weeks, haven't we? Sometimes we might have just not fancied it. Yeah. But luck of the draw. Yeah. And we like what we like. Damn good week. It's a fantastic week of television.

Really, really good. You can catch all three series of Looping on Netflix. What do you guys think of this at home? Let us know, please. Oh, now, let's see what recommendations our listeners have got for us. First up, we've got a recommendation from Helen. Hi, Natalie. Hi, Jo.

I just wanted to say a massive thank you to you both. I'm just loving your podcast. I can't wait for the next one to come out. But I never used to be one for podcasts. Didn't even know how to play one. But since listening to you, I'm open to the podcast world. Anyway, I wanted to recommend a TV programme to you. I've been watching On Sky. I've been watching the Tattooist of Auschwitz and it is absolutely amazing. I've loved every episode of it. It's a love story

set in, obviously, Auschwitz in the Second World War. And it obviously shows all the harrowing things that went on there, which was just horrific. But it's actually a lovely, beautiful story.

So that will be my recommendation. Oh, thanks, Helen. Thank you, Helen. I've heard only amazing things about this programme. And it's obviously going to be very, very harrowing. I've heard so many people saying just how amazing it is. Yeah, I have too. Really have.

So thank you, Helen. We've also got a recommendation from Emma. I recently got recommended Mum on BBC iPlayer there's only three series and each episode is only 30 minutes long but they are absolutely hilarious if you like the royal family

this is very much of the same sort of humour and it's very much about the different characters within a family and they are absolutely brilliant um and i would highly recommend it and just one more recommendation um on um disney plus i think it's on amazon prime as well this is us if you haven't watched it prepare yourselves it is a roller coaster of laughing one minute crying crying the next. Amazing actors, including Mandy Moore, all about a family, an American family

and their different relationships. And it jumps back and forward through time. It's absolutely unbelievable. The best thing I've ever watched on telly. Thank you so much for the podcast. You're doing an amazing job. I love listening to you both when I'm driving up and down the motorway

and can't wait to hear what your next recommendations for me to watch are. Bye. What a lovely message. Thank you, Emma. Well me to watch are. Bye. What a lovely message. Thank you, Emma. Well, that's This Is Us. Yes. What do you think?

I've heard so, I've just heard about This Is Us over the years from so many different people. I mean, I think we have to do it. I've thought for a while, oh, this is something that I need to watch. I know, but sometimes, you know, it goes on and on. There's so many series, I get worried. But now I don't get bogged down. I think, no, just start stuff.

Just look at it. Have a look. Yeah. It sounds like it's right. Delve right in. And what about Mum? Have you seen Mum? I've seen all of Mum.

I've not ever seen it. It's brilliant. And the girl who plays the daughter-in-law is so good. So good. It's heartwarming. It's funny. It's great. It's really, really good. Well, I'll have a look at that because if you know it's funny it's great it's really really good

well I'll have a look at that because if you know it then it's only me that needs to watch a couple yeah I think that you would love Mum I think it's right up your street you'd love it right pay attention

as we've got another call out for you for our what shall we watch bonus episodes for our next one we'd like to hear some voice notes about your favourite TV villains. Who did you just love to hate on the telly? Who always got away with their dastardly deeds in dramas or soaps? Or is your favourite TV villain from a Saturday night show,

like The X Factor? Simon Cowell was ruthless back in the day. Let us know. He was. He was was awful wasn't he? He was bad We love hearing your lovely voices So please do keep sending us voice notes and messages on WhatsApp And we might even play them out in our bonus ep

The number is 033 067 84 704 That's us for this lovely, lovely, lovely episode. It is, isn't it? It's an off-go-quick, doesn't it? It goes so fast. This week we'll be watching The Last of Us on Now, The Misadventures of Romesh Ranganathan on BBC iPlayer and Lupin on Netflix.

Thank you so much for listening and we will be back with more off the telly next Wednesday on BBC Sounds. Bye! See ya! Off the Telly is hosted by Natalie Cassidy and Joanna Page. The producer is Georgia Keating. The commissioning

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