Off The Telly - You've got to start loving the barnet

Episode Date: September 4, 2024

What are we watching? Natalie Cassidy and Joanna Page chat about all things telly.The girls are back after their summer break and this week are discussing The Jetty on BBC iPlayer, Only Murders in the Building on Disney Plus and Mr Bigstuff on NOW and Sky Max.In Off the Telly, Natalie and Joanna talk about what they can’t stop watching, what they definitely aren’t going to bother with, and what you’re all watching at home. From new shows to comfort telly to guilty pleasures, there’s no judgement here. What’s kept us all glued to our screens this week?Self-confessed TV addicts and stars of two of the biggest shows on our screens, EastEnders and Gavin and Stacey, Natalie and Joanna are the perfect companions to your weekly viewing habits.Timecodes for shows discussed this week are:12:38 - The Jetty 18:20 - Only Murders in the Building 24:00 - Mr BigstuffGet in touch by sending us a message or voice note via WhatsApp to 03306 784704.Hosts: Natalie Cassidy and Joanna Page Producer: Georgia Keating Executive Producer: Richard Morris Commissioning Editor: Rhian Roberts Production Co-ordinator: Becky Carewe-Jeffries Sounds Editor: Arlie Adlington Music by MCassoOff The Telly is a BBC Studios Audio Production for BBC Sounds.

BBC Sounds, music, radio, podcasts. Hello and welcome to Off The Telly from BBC Sounds. I'm Natalie Cassidy. And I'm Joanna Page. And this is the podcast where we have a good old catch-up about the telly we've been watching this week. There is going to be a bit of swearing and there might be some spoilers, but who fucking cares? So we're back from our summer break.

We're back! Woo! Woo! Woo! It's so lovely though to be back to our normal episodes now, don't you think? It is, isn't it? How was your summer? Absolutely fab. Ten days of lovely bliss. Oh, did you? Yeah, lovely holiday, yeah?

Oh, lovely holiday. Fun with the kids. I went berserk on the pina coladas. Fantastic. How was yours? Well, apart from Joanie breaking her arm and having to, you know, think about whether we were going to get to Greece or not,

in the end, we got out there and we ate, drank, were very, very merry and had a lovely suntan. I don't know where it's gone, but there you go. I've still got the remnants of my... You have. Oh, my God, do you know what we did on our last night? The kids, Eva, Kit and Noah, just said, Mummy, we're going to run and jump into the pool.

This is about half past 11 at night. They all ran and then they dived into the pool. So my children are in the pool, half past 11 at night they all ran and then they dived into the pool so my children are in the pool half past 11 at night soaking wet jumping around bouncing on this big ball thing that was in the pool and I was like oh my god oh my god and then but they were like and kit went thank you mummy for letting us do this they were in like wild abandon I was that family that you go oh for goodness sake that's just awful and then I got them out and then as we were going past um this couple said oh look at that with the kids what about you parents why don't you join in and I went you know what stuff it I will fully clothed in my

evening dress and everything herald and I I parked up the pram and I dived in the pool and then James jumped in as well and then the kids jumped in and we wereived in the pool and then James jumped in as well and then the kids jumped in and we were all in the pool half past 11 at night fully clothed fantastic and I thought that was quite exciting and I enjoyed it well done you yes I had that wild abandon and then I came home and I'm not even joking right we landed and within about half an hour I felt like this again I was like that really stressed I know what you mean I do know what you mean. Yeah. But it's good to have a holiday. It is. Jo, your hair looks beautiful. Oh, thank you. I had it cut recently. It is lovely. It's very short. It's very, I've had a hell of a lot cut off. I went, I had a dry cut. Oh. Yes. I've never had a dry cut. Yeah. Well,

this is the first dry cut that I've had. And I was a bit like, you know what, just go with it and just see what it's like. Was that less money? Yes, it was. It was less money and it was less time, which was really, really nice. And I went in and then just felt, and also I had to air dry it before I had it done. So normally, you know, I'd blast it with the hair dryer, but I air dried it, which is just like not actually doing anything but just sort of standing there and it dried and so it had its natural sort of texture went in and then she had a feel of it and I went oh do whatever you want to it and then she

just had to go and you know and cut quite a bit off and I was a bit like oh my gosh you know I'm being this short in ages but then also it feels really quite nice having my neck free it looks really really nice thank you honestly really. It looks really, really nice. Thank you. Honestly, really so true. I was really worried, though, if I looked a bit prissy and a bit like a librarian. No. You know, if it was a bit, like, sleek like that.

Yeah, yeah, no. It looks really good. It looks really healthy, very thick. Yeah. Really sexy. I don't know if I'd go as far as sexy. Yeah. Oh.

Looks great. Maybe when I've got a bit of a kink in it. Oh. What have you been up to? My God, you've been so busy haven't you yeah it's been busy but as have you we've both been busy honestly it's mad i do feel like our summer specials have flown by yes that's flown that that month has just flown by it doesn't even seem like a month does it i hope everybody listening has had a lovely lovely summer I have to say. I can't believe, though, that we're almost getting to the end of it.

And it kind of feels just like the beginning because it's only now getting warm. I know what you're saying. Yeah. It's always the way. And the kids now are going to be going back to school. And it'll be 25 degrees. Yes, it will. I'm quite pleased that they're going back now, though, are you?

I can't wait for them to go back. I'm so bloody tired. I know. I'm so tired. And also, they need a routine. They do. It gets to a point mine now we're just lying in yeah i phoned james earlier on today yeah at i'm not even joking i think it was quarter past 12 or half past 12 and they're all in bed and i said to him oh i've just you know finished up rehearsals i've come out now what you up to or nothing and he went well um, Bo and Noah are up. I'm just making them breakfast.

But the other two haven't even surfaced yet. And it was about half past 12. How in God's name am I going to be able to get them body clocks back to getting up at 7 in the morning? I know. Eli's got up at 1 o'clock yesterday. She did. Joni's good. Joni keeps the same sort of time, which is nice.

Yeah. But you're right. I don't know how they're going to get up at six o'clock. It's going to be hell. They'll have to shove a rocket up her arsehole. Yeah. It's going to be so hard. And how have rehearsals been for Gavin and Stacey?

Oh my God, it's been so much fun. Oh my God. It's mad though, you know, we did the read-through and that was just kind of like mad, everybody all in the same room again. But then really moving, because you just think, this is going to be the last time we do this. Oh, but it won't be the last one. It will, it will be.

It will. I mean, I'm just like, oh, my God, we will never be in this situation now, all of us here like this together ever again. Did you not feel like that the last one? No. No, I kind of didn't. Because I always, I always felt like it was going to be the end.

But then I always kind of, there was always a window open still. Yes. And it didn't ever feel like, the only time it really felt complete like it was the end, was at the end of series three. And we were told that is it. Yes. And I remember crying a lot. And I remember Ruth coming into the makeup track and I couldn't even look at her and I couldn't speak because I was crying.

And it's only ever felt really final then. So with all of the other ones, I've kind of felt like, oh, you know, the window's still open. But with this, it's kind of like, God bless, it will never be like this again. I know. But rehearsals have been fun and everyone's so lovely. Oh, that's so good.

Yeah. Oh, brilliant. I know, it's going to be exciting going to Cardiff. But you know what now? Because there's like, Bo's come along and I've now got a fourth child. Yeah. Learning lines is insane. I finished rehearsals the other day and then I drove home.

I parked up in this car park near the house and I sat in there just to learn lines. And I sat in there until nine o'clock at night when it got really, really dark and I thought I might be attacked and then I drove home. Yeah, I understand. Because I was just like, and then as soon as I got into the house, Bo was just like, I want boob. Mummy, mummy, mummy, mummy, mummy. Yeah, mummy, mummy, everyone wants to play. She wants to bring me all of her toys and then she wanted me to read

to her. I was on my arse. I was exhausted. I, did you hear about the mum who someone said every time their child says mummy, one of their children, they do a squat? Yes, I did. I saw it on social media. So I wish I'd started doing that. No, I haven't.

I haven't. I saw it. I thought that's an amazing idea and I'm going to do it. And I've not done it yet but I will do it. We should just write, should we make a pact and should we start it tonight? And go, right, come on. And then for our next episode, let's see if we've carried it on. All right, let's do it. Let's do it.

All right, let's see. Let's see if we can do that. Because I thought that when she's going, Mum, squat. Mum, squat. I think, I don't know if we'll be able to walk up the stairs. What, after squatting? After 24 hours.

Or whilst squatting. Hey, and do you know what I've done as well? Oh my God, so much has gone by. I bought myself a Peloton. It's so good. Bike or running? Bike. I always thought that I would never use it.

It's just like a normal bike. Why would you even need that or do that? Oh my God, it's amazing. Do you love it? It's brilliant. It arrived. I sat on it, did all of the things. There you go, click, click with your feet.

All of that. I was so flipping precious about it because Kit was wanting to type everything in. And I got really angry with James because he was trying to set it up. I didn't want him to touch anything. So I actually made him leave the room. And I do have to say, when everybody cleared the room and left me to set it up myself, I did it quite quickly and it was all right. That's very good.

And then I jumped on, did a 20-minute class, literally straight away like that. Fantastic. And if you'd have said to me, here's a bike, go outside and just cycle for 20 minutes, I'd have gone, oh, I can't be bothered. Yeah, absolutely. But you've got the music. There's a woman, well, or a man, telling you, you know,

you need to be doing this, you're doing so well. Put the speed on this. Yeah, yeah. Put the cadence thing on this. And because somebody's telling me what to do, I'm doing it. Brilliant. I love it. I love it.

I've not been on my mind for about two months. Have you got it. Brilliant. I love it. I've not been on mine for about two months. Have you got one? Yeah. I didn't know you had one. I told you this. Did you? I'm sure I told you. But mine's been used for washing.

I've chucked a skirt over there this week, which is something I never do. I hate doing things like that. Yeah. And I just keep walking by it, thinking I've got to get back on it. Oh my God. But I just haven't had any time and I don't feel guilty about it fitness always goes by the wayside that's the first thing to drop off if I'm busy I mean I'm sorry but when you're working and it's really hard and you come in at the end of the day yeah there's a there's a you

know bit of exercise or there's a glass of wine just give me the glass of wine because I'm knackered yeah well before we actually do get into this week's telly, we've had a voice note from a listener who remembers a show you loved as a kid. Let's have a listen. I absolutely love your podcast. I listen to them as soon as I come out, when I'm walking and when I'm cleaning the house. I just love you girls. It's like talking to friends. So I've just listened to your TV villain one

and you mentioned Dinosaurs. Dinosaurs was amazing. I used to love watching it as a kid and you can actually watch it on Disney Plus so you can relive it. Keep up the good work. I absolutely love you guys. See you later.

Thank you so much. I didn't know you were on Disney Plus. That's brilliant. I might check it out because I don't remember it. You you later. Thank you so much. I didn't know it was on Disney+. That's brilliant. I might check it out because I don't remember it. You've got to pop it on. The kids will really like it. Yeah. Really good fun.

Brilliant. Absolutely brilliant. We've had a voice note here from a listener. Let's see what they've got to say. Hi, Geronat. Just wanted to send my thoughts. Absolutely loving everyone else's opinions one, the bonus apps, hilarious.

I literally laughed so hard when I heard that someone thinks, I even know it makes me laugh, that Dick Powell in Gavin and Stacey is a villain. I mean, obviously he gets dodgy meat off the back of a van, but, oh my gosh, it's so funny. It really cracks me up. And I think of him every time we have a barbecue. I honestly thought the villain,

when you said there was a villain from Gavin and Stacey, I thought, oh, I assume that must be Dave Coaches. There's nothing particularly wrong with Dave Coaches, but obviously everyone loves Smithy and thinks that Dave just kind of totally gets in where he's not wanted with Neil the baby. You know, it's like, well, if you don't mind Smith, we just want to keep him in as routine-like.

And I just, like, it's at those points, like, oh, Dave, man, you're being annoying. But genuinely, I just thought it's so funny hearing that someone thinks that Dick Powell is a villain anyway thanks for your podcast it really does make me smile and literally laugh out loud and I feel like I feel really strongly about everything you're talking about and I love it so thanks oh what a lovely voice note lovely she. She's right, though. Yeah. Yeah. Dave Coates annoys me. Oh, does he?

I'm afraid so. A little bit sometimes. Is it because of the Smithy thing? Yeah. Oh. Mind you, right, it's only now, because I'm going back and watching it. I think, is it in series three or two? No, it's the Christening.

So I think that's series three. And Smithy goes to go and sit you know with his own baby and then Ness and Dave say oh go and sit down there and everything and I was just like oh god love him he can't sit there with him and Dave's there that's what I mean

it's just a little bit annoying I know oh lovely thank you for that that was a lovely voice note right I reckon it's time to get on yes what have we been watching this week we have been watching The Jetty on BBC iPlayer, Only Murders in the Building on Disney+,

and Mr Big Stuff on Now and Sky Max. Right, let's talk telly. So, show one, The Jetty. We've had a few of you at home recommend The Jetty to us, including this voice note from Gemma. Hi, Matt and Jo. I just thought i'd send you a quick message to see if you are watching the jetty with jenna coleman starring as the main character i love anything which jenna coleman does so i was really excited for it we've watched the first episode in our house with the second one

to be watched tonight and I think the third one is also now released um so I wanted to get your views on it because we were slightly underwhelmed but it's definitely watchable and I want to know what happens so I would love to hear your thoughts this is Gemma in Bedfordshire thank you well you know what if I was going to summarize the jetty yeah I've only watched the first episode right me too I don't quite know what? If I was going to summarise the jetty... Yeah. I've only watched the first episode, right? Me too. I don't quite know what I'd say. So there's like a detective inspector person woman.

She's about 34, played by Jenna Coleman. She's great, isn't she? Yeah, she's really good in it. I mean, she is really good. She's ever so natural, isn't she? And she's just like so believable. And she's playing quite... She's quite hard, isn't she?

Not hard, it's horrible. I'm just a bit bored. I'm a bit bored of like, female copper. Yeah. Being hard around the men going, oh, did you get fucked on the,

Yeah, but you know, how did she say that? Yeah, I did. But you know, as they were walking down, I thought of you,

right, because as they got out of the car and they were walking down, her and then the young cop, Because as they got out of the car and they were walking down, her and then the young cop, who's like the young naive one, who I bet gets killed or something. Young naive bloke. As they were walking down to go in, because there's been this fire in like the lake house restaurant-y type thing.

I was looking at her long flowing coat and I thought, oh, look, detective coat. And it just made me think of you. Yes. Because I was like, oh, look, that was her choice for her detective. That's right. But like, she's like this detective her husband has died she's got a daughter yep um and thought the daughter was fabulous as well yeah i thought she was great really good yeah

and then there's this lakeside is it a is that a house or a car someone's bought it it's gone on fire it's all about the tourism and how people come in from other places, which is interesting. I like that. Yeah. All these kind of pretty places. And then all, like, intercut with all of that, there's this whole thing about this girl who's sort of truanting in school and you can see she's going off the rails a bit

and she's drawing in this younger, innocent girl in with her who's wanting, you know, to be part of, like, her gang. And then the other one who's truanting is sort of meeting up with this older fella. Older guy. Yeah, but he only looks like early 20s or mid-20s, doesn't he, you know? But she's meeting up with him

and it looks like it's all really dodgy. And then at the end of episode one, because then Jenna Comer's character starts, goes, oh, yeah, well, see, look, I can't describe what it's about or what happens because in the first episode it felt quite slow, but I was being drawn into it. No, I agree. I can't describe what it's about or what happens because in the first episode it felt quite slow but i was being drawn into it i couldn't stop watching it i think she's right i didn't quite know what was going on and then by the time i got to the end there'd been a thing

about this young girl who'd gone missing that another reporter person has come in to try and discover because she's doing a podcast that's right journalist on. That's right, journalist lady. There's the Truenton thing going on. And by the way, spoiler alert for the end of episode one. That older fella, Jenna Coleman's husband, has died, but she's now getting worried because he seemed to like younger girls. But then we realise, don't we, that the flash... That it's all a flashback. It's all a flashback, isn't it? The two young girls, it's a flashback.

Yes. And that is Mac, the bloke. Yes, so he is Mac. And then the truanting girl is the girl who went missing but i was slowly drawn into it by the end i was like okay right i want to know what's going to happen next i agree with you i just found it a little bit slow and a little bit underwhelming and i think the voice like jem who voice noted, absolutely hit the nail on the head for me. Bit underwhelming, little bit slow. And then it kind of, I just thought, well, actually, I would like to know what's going to happen.

Yes. Will I continue to watch it? Possibly. Yes. I'll have to be honest. It depends what else catches my attention. Well, I thought, oh, it's caught my attention now, right? I want to know what's going to happen. Yeah. It just catches my attention. Well, I thought, oh, it's caught my attention now, right? I want to know what's going to happen. But then I thought I might just go on the internet and have a look and just read what's happened in the episodes, which I know is really bad.

No, I know what you mean. And not the point of the whole thing. I want to know what's going to happen. Yeah. But I don't know if I can be bothered to get through. It was like when we were watching, do you remember that thing that we watched all about the aeroplane? Yes.

The drama with the aeroplane. Red Eye, wasn't it? Red Eye. Yes. I never got to the bottom of that. And now I feel like I'm just going to Google it and find out what happened. Oh, my God. I watched all of that.

Did you? Because the children loved it. Right. And thinking back, it was completely unsuitable for the children. But I let them sit down and watch all of it. They loved it. You know my view. I let mine watch everything.

It's all good for them. No, it's all good. It's all life lessons. But yeah, I thought it was good, right? I was drawn in. I thought it was good. I agree with you that it was kind of like not much happened, but I was kind of hypnotised into it.

And now I do want to know what's going to happen next. And Jenna Coleman has got amazing hair. She's got nice hair. It's so nice. Not as nice as yours. No, it's thick. It's a nice length. Not as nice as yours at the moment, I'm telling you.

It's so thick. I was like, and it's glossy. I think she's got a colour on it. I think you've got hair dysmorphia. You think so? Yeah. I think you need to really start loving the hair. Start loving the barnet. But I think that the jetty is worth tuning into.

I'd say give it a go. Give it a go. Give it a go, right? Go through the first episode, give it a go. Give it a go. Give it a go, right? Go through the first episode, give it a go. Definitely, definitely. Yeah. You can watch all four episodes on BBC iPlayer and also it's only four.

Four, but yeah. So it's easy peasy, isn't it? You know what I mean? Only Murders in the Building, which is what we're going to talk about next. I love Only Murders in the Building, so is what we're going to talk about next. I love Only Murders in the Building, so you can watch it on Disney+. Yep.

We had a listener a couple of weeks ago who recommended this show during our Super Sleuths Part 2 episode. Yes. And I honestly, I can't believe, right, that I've not seen it before now. I can't believe it. They're on Series 4. What?

They're on Series 4? There's thousands of them. Oh, my God. And I looked, right, and it's almost a bit like a podcast because when I went on to have a look at it, it said a new episode is released every week. Unbelievable. I think it's so clever.

I've only watched one episode. Me too. No, I'm halfway through my second episode. I love Steve Martin. Oh, my God, me too. Selena Gomez is brilliant. Oh, who's the other guy? Martin Short.

Martin Short, sorry. I just think the three of them, they're so different. What a brilliant concept of the building. Yeah. I just think it's absolutely brilliant and I want to, again, the reason I didn't watch any more

is I was like, I want to watch this with Mark. I want to watch this at home. Yeah. And I think Eliza will like it and I just are really brilliant what a great idea that they're all into so basically listen they're all into you find out you've got three characters you don't know really what's going on no do you you don't know they're just in New York and it's hustle and bustle the way it starts it's brilliant isn't it because they're all just talking about why they

love New York yeah and then, Steve Martin started talking. And I thought, oh, my God, I just love his voice. Yeah. And he's just amazing. And Martin Short is just so flipping brilliant and funny. Hannes and Selena Gomez got an amazing voice. Yeah. And this quality that she's got to her, which is sort of, you know, quite laid back.

Quite calm. The three of them just complement each other so well. I agree. And they are so so different and you just wouldn't believe it they're like chalk and cheese yeah but you find out

kind of you see the ambience you know where they live the atmosphere you kind of throughout episode one get a feel for what's going on

a little bit with them and if they live with people whatever but all very we don't find much out in episode one it's about 34 minutes as well. This doesn't go on forever, these.

No. They're kind of half an hour-ish, which is really, really good. Yeah, it's excellent. And you find out that they're all into true crime podcasts. Yeah. Well, and this one in particular, all about Oklahoma. Yeah. And they find out and there's a, well, you carry on.

Then you've got the fire alarm goes off. Well, then what happens then? The fire alarm goes off. Yeah. And then a murder. They go to go back in and then they're told they can't go back in. That's it. Because an actual murder has happened in their building.

And they just can't believe it because they love true crime podcasts. Yeah. And so they're like, oh my God, this is actually happening here. We need to do a podcast about it. So they sneak in and they go, right, okay, we're going to see, we're going to start, you know, seeing if we can solve the crime ourselves anyway, whilst we're doing it. Why don't we end up doing a podcast of it and then they start doing a

podcast yeah so every episode is it all just revealing their podcast well it must be it must be so good i would watch the three of them in like anything anyway right but the fact that the show is so good as well and then you put the two things together it's flipping brilliant yeah it's shot really well it's so well written it's so funny very very different i just feel like it's got a real really good feel about it yeah really good music i love the title it's funny so when we're talking about true crime and murder yeah don't think that because you know that i'm not a fan of all of that so it's much more comedic quite gentle mart, he plays this really dry, you know, actor.

Used to be a detective of some, so it sounds like he used to be a bit of a Columbo. Yes. Back in the early 90s, doesn't it? And then Martin Short plays this,

he's, you know, like a director, but he's hard up now. He's, you know, can't get any work going and everything, but he's very, quite bitchy, but also really theatrical. Flouncing around in a big purple coat.

And then Selena Gomez is very mysterious. And she's very, very laid back. And she's very calm. And she's so slow. But she's very glamorous. She's beautiful. And she's doing up the whole of her aunt's apartment. Yes, her aunt.

And you don't know a lot about her. But then at the end of the first one, you discover that she does know the person who yes who died yes yeah it's very good very good i would recommend that to anybody oh my god give it a watch and they've done four series yes wow i'm only on episode two i know there's honestly there's loads god and whilst we're talking about something with loads of episodes are you still watching This Is Us? I haven't watched a thing. I haven't watched any of it.

I haven't watched a thing. It's like a mountain to climb. I want to watch it. I love it. Yeah. I don't think I'm going to go back to that one because it just seems like a mountain to climb. I know.

So I think it's going to be quite emotional. Whereas with this, I am like a thump of the eaves loads. I think we can pop in and out of this though. It's just, I'm like, oh my God, fab. Because I know I'm just going to really enjoy it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know what you mean. But This Is Us, everyone I talk to, they can't believe,

they're like, you're so lucky that you've not watched it all yet. Oh, my God. It gets better and better and better. That's all I hear about This Is Us. Oh, yes. So I think that's one to put on a shelf, and I think it'll be timeless anyway. You can watch it.

I just need a bit more time. I think when the kids go to university. Oh, I know you say that. I don't think that's a show to watch when the kids go to university oh i know you say that i don't think that's a show to watch when the kids go to university actually isn't it yeah too emotional i'm just very glad that i've got this all set up now that we've got loads of this to watch loads of stuff to watch we won't be bored when they go to uni joe we won't we'll just be watching loads of stuff on the telly well but it's just the comedy of Martin Short and Steve Martin. I mean, just absolutely brilliant.

Steve Martin's timing is unbelievable. Oh, God, he's so good, isn't he? So you can watch the first three series on Disney+, with new episodes from Series 4 being released every Tuesday. So our next one is Mr Big Stuff. Save the best till last. So our next one is Mr Big Stuff. Save the best till last. It was recommended by a listener as one that I might like.

I wonder why. So, the other night Mark and I were in bed. I said, I've got to start watching. We've not watched Danny. It's really bad. I said, I've actually now got to watch it for the podcast. I said, so it's going to make us. I felt terrible that I'd not even watched it. And we watched four.

Did you? I've only watched one. Have you? But I think it's bloody brilliant. We watched four. So good. I am still, I may be biased, but I just think Danny's brilliant. Oh my God, he's amazing.

I think he's hilarious. He's so good. He's comedy time. I've always said he should do comedy because he's always, he think he's hilarious. He's so good. His comedy time, I've always said he should do comedy because he's always, he makes me really laugh. Yes. He really, really does. But in this, yeah, I think he's absolutely brilliant.

There was a part of me and Mark was really laughing. Like when the brother's got the spoons out. Oh, my God. Mark was crying, crying. And I was like, is it that funny? It was so funny. Was it? I was like, is it that funny? It was so funny. Was it? I was like, is this really that funny?

It's just so mad. And then what about the bit? So Adrian Scarborough, who plays Pete, right? Oh, my. I just was thinking about you and him. You know when he's in the back of the car and he's all taped up? Yeah. And then he's drunk.

Yeah. And then he says something like, cheesy something. He just yells that thing in the air. I had to rewind it three times to re-watch him doing that because it made me laugh so much i think adrian scarborough is one of the best actors in the uk he really is isn't he it's unbelievable he is so good i mean he's just and all of his different characters he doesn't he's brilliant believable so so funny but i went oh I really like everyone in this.

And I like the brother, so you've got the geek. And I just think with comedy, it's very, very hard. Yeah. Because you're watching it and you have to have the certain characters to make a comedy work. Yes. And I'm thinking, is it just because I love comedy so much now that I'm so critical?

When he walked out, Danny, and his character walked out and he had the dressing gown, he was on the drive, I thought, well, this is King Gary. What's King Gary? Oh, it's another comedy. But I was like, well, this is King... And I thought, no, it's comedy and you need these characters. Yes.

So you've got to forget other ones and just search what it is. And by episode four, I said to Mark, after two, I went, I don't really like... I said, I don't find this very funny, although I find Danny funny. And then I thought, four, I said to Mark after two, I went, I don't really like, I said, I don't find this very funny. Yes. Although I find Danny funny. Yeah. And then I thought, no, I'm being really stupid.

Yeah. It's because I'm comparing it to everything else. Yeah. And then after, I said, I really thought about it and I went, actually, that's really good. Yeah. As a comedy, it's really good. I think it is. It's clever.

Yeah. It's directed really well. I think it's acted really well. I think, so it's about this fella who's quite angsty. He works in like this carpet showroom and he's very nervy, I think, so it's about this fella who's quite angsty. He works in like this carpet showroom and he's very nervy, very angsty, very, you know. Just very boring. Oh my God, and it starts as well, doesn't it?

She's brilliant. Yeah, oh my God, his fiance. I haven't seen her in anything before. No, I haven't. She's great. She's bloody brilliant, isn't she? And their sex life is not going, they've tried to spice it up a bit

by their sitting in a car. And... Well, he thought he might like it in public. Yes. But they are around the back of Halford's car park. Yeah, and it's not worked at all. So they've both gone into work and then he's in work and then suddenly Danny turns up and he's his brother.

Yeah, you don't find that out first thing. Yeah. But you kind of know there's some sort of link. He's drunk, he looks really rough. He's obviously just been beaten up and he's going looking for him. And then he turns up in this angsty fella's house. Him and the fiancé are just like, oh my God. He pretends that he doesn't know him and gets rid of him.

But then he meets up with him and then he brings him back. The stuff with the tin. I mean, oh my God, yeah. The stuff with the tin and the dad's ashes, which aren't the dad's ashes are they it's actually a burner phone it's clever the more I think about it and the more I talk about it

I gave it a really bad time when I first watched it and then I'm like actually very funny everyone in it's brilliant I think Ryan Sampson who plays the anxious brother also wrote it did he write it? he wrote it and I love every it oh okay he wrote it oh fine and I love

every time he talks about the poppadoms and the oh I know I like all that the way that they sing them they're so I think their relationship

is just their chemistry is amazing very very good they're so close they're just the way that they sing things to each other I was just bawling

I was laughing so much yeah it was good and I just think any time Danny Dyer says something like blah blah blah darling it just makes me go And I just think any time Danny Dyer says something like, blah, blah, blah, darling, it just makes me go, oh, my God, I just want Danny Dyer for me, darling.

He's very good in it. He's so good. Very, very good. Did you see in one swift move, I know it was probably a stuntman, but in my mind it was Danny Dyer, in one swift move, how he got Adrian Scarborough by the throat and then pinned him down to the ground. And I thought to myself, God, Danny can move really well.

I know it probably wasn't him. Oh, is that when he did the mosey? Yeah, he like got him sort of by the throat. Interestingly, Mark was sat here. How geeky is this? Mark went, oh. The credits come up, right, on the first one. And he went, oh, I knew that was Ray DeHaan.

And I went, what? Eeky. And the stunt coordinator, he went, I should have said that when it was on. He likes doing that. It's a move that he always uses. Oh, my God. So I knew that was Ray who stunt coordinated that. I said, oh, we're such geeks,

like knowing all the stunt coordinators and everything. Sometimes it takes the magic away from Tony, doesn't it? Well, yeah. Well, it didn't take the magic away from me. Thank God I didn't know him. Because in my mind, I was like, oh, Danny moves well. Very, very good. I think it's good i'm gonna carry on watching it and they're nice short episodes they're really short like i said i've got through four already i really loved it and i kind of i don't know what to expect like

if you'd have said to me right put this on and i'd be like okay i can kind of imagine you know what danny's gonna be like in it and okay oh, okay, this is the story, whatever. But I never, ever would have guessed that halfway through, you know, Ryan and Danny would start doing a dance routine with spoons. Oh, no, brilliant. I mean, it's just, I'm not expecting stuff that's happening. I think it's really funny. Yeah, I think you're right. And we don't know now, is he going to do the wedding,

is he going to take the wedding fund money? My God, what's he going to do? I don't know because I think he really likes them as well. He really wants to help them. Yes. So, yeah, very interesting. I really like it and I highly recommend it. Yeah, I'd say definitely watch it.

I mean, it's funny. It is. It's just funny. Yeah. Brilliant. You can watch all episodes of Mr Big Stuff on Now and Sky Max. Jo, before we wrap this up, let's hear what recommendations our listeners have got for us.

Oh, lovely. Yeah. First up, we've got a recommendation from Maxine. Hi, girls. It's Maxine from Liverpool. We're struggling at the moment with our 14-year-old because all he wants to do is watch YouTube. So we had a think about some

series that we loved and we've introduced him to Friday Night Dinner. He absolutely loves it. Give it a whirl girls, Jim's character is just the best. Hello Jackie! Oh my god, I've never seen any of it. Pardon? We should

do it because I have never seen any of it. Get yourself on it and that's a certain that's a that's a week where I haven't got to watch anything it's continuously on

at my house is it Eliza watches it when she goes to bed can I watch it with the kids with Eva she's 11

nearly 12 yeah well I know you you'd let anyone you'd let Bo she's two and a half I mean a lot Joanie's eight

just turned eight right and she watches it. Yeah, I mean, I wasn't happy at the beginning about her watching it. Yeah. But she doesn't really get the things that are rude. Yes. So in Friday Night Dinner, there is an episode where they have a, like a doll. Yeah.

Which is Martin's doll and whatever. Yeah. And very awkwardly, he does it and he goes, oh, bugger me. Oh, bugger off. Oh, bugger off. Oh, bugger you too. And Joanie now, she's eight and she does go, oh, bugger me. You're like, you can't.

Bugger off. Oh, my God. She's also started saying lately, and I don't know if it's from a programme or not, I don't know if she's watched some sort of old-fashioned film, but she'll be in the car and she'll go, God, blimmin' heck. Does she really?

Blimmin' heck. Really kind of burrow boy. Blam it, you know, blam it, I'll rail it. Blimmin' heck. Oh, my God. I don't know where she gets it from. Bless her. We need to do this then.

Friday night dinner is fantastic. Because it's something I've never, ever seen. It's brilliant. Let's definitely. My God Because it's something I've never ever seen. It's brilliant. Let's definitely. It's a top, up in my, definitely in my, top ten.

It's definitely a top ten. Definitely. We've got to do it then and it's a recommendation, isn't it? Definitely, definitely. Finally, we've got this recommendation

from a listener called Katie. Hello ladies, just wanted to tell you how much I'm loving the podcast. You both keep me company every day whilst I get my lunchtime steps in. I wanted to recommend a series me and my daughter, who is 11, have been loving. It's called Changing Ends, a comedy based on Alan Carr's younger life. It is brilliant and so funny.

The character playing Alan, Oliver Saville, is amazing. It's been lovely to watch something different with Ava and talking about the themes around the show. Definitely one to watch. Lots of love, Katie. Oh, that sounds good. I love Alan Carr so much that I don't know why I've not watched that. Another one.

I know, yeah. So that'll be a nice one to watch if it's a nice, funny light. Yeah, nice. We've got quite a few of to watch if it's a nice, funny light. Yeah, nice. We've got quite a few of them now, haven't we? Really, really good. We've got a good list here for when. Good, yeah, sounds good. Well, also, aside from all of that,

we have got another call-out for you for our What Shall We Watch bonus eps. For our next one, we would like to hear some voice notes about your favourite reality TV moments. What iconic bit from reality telly lives in your head rent-free? It can be from an old classic or a show that's currently on the telly. There are so many to choose from, so let us know which is your favourite. Plenty of reality to talk about, isn't there?

There's loads. It's going to be a good one. Really good. We love hearing your lovely voices, so please do keep sending in voice notes and messages on WhatsApp, and we might even play them out in our bonus eps. The number is 0-3-3-0-6-7-8-4-7-0-4. Oh, that's enough from us this week.

And it's just so nice to be back here again in our normal weekly routine. Oh, it's lovely. It really is. I felt lost. It's been ages. I felt lost throughout the summer. I know.

Without seeing you and having a little chat. Back to normal. Yes. Autumn coming. I'm quite excited. Strictly coming on. We're going to go head to head, aren't we, Jo? We are going to go head to head aren't we we are gonna go head to head i'm looking forward

to it i've sent win a message this morning actually telling him he's got a t-shirt or some people have done some t-shirts about something with him and i said send me a t-shirt i'll wear it on my instagram definitely you've got to do very excited me too when do you know when you're going to go and see it so no jamie's working Jamie's working away. But I know how hard it is. I have said to him, you'd get very little, you know, two tickets a week, I think. Is that it? Yes.

And then you've got your mum, your dad or your partner. You know what I mean? I have said to Wynne this morning, I will send you my days that I've got off. Get me into this watch. Fair do. I've not thought about loved ones family

nothing I've thought about myself Fair enough Well I haven't thought about myself and I said Jamie if I can get there

all very well but I'm at home watching it it's absolutely fine Has Jamie talked about how rehearsals are going or anything Just said it's going really well Yeah

Going really well Yes It's exciting though It is isn't it Wyn's been enjoying it. He sent me a photo of him when he'd had his photos done and everything. I've never seen him wearing anything like that before. Fantastic.

Well, Jamie said Wyn is lovely. Oh! As I said. Oh, yes! So it's all good. We'll be rooting for them. Yeah, we'll be rooting for both of them. Yeah, of course we will.

Definitely. we'd be rooting for them we'd be rooting for both of them yeah of course we will this week we've been watching The Jetty on BBC iPlayer Only Murders in the Building on Disney Plus and Mr Big Stuff on Now and Skymax thank you so much for listening and we'll be back with more off the telly next Wednesday on BBC Sounds bye next Wednesday on BBC Sounds. Our series, Child, from BBC Radio 4, I'm going to be exploring how a fetus develops and is influenced by the world from the very get-go. Then, in the middle of the series, we take a deep look at the mechanics and politics of birth,

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