Off The Vine with Kaitlyn Bristowe - A Double-Double Date with Katie & Blake!

Episode Date: August 24, 2021

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You're listening to Caitlin Bristow's podcast, Off the Vine. Take it away, Bree. Wine. Lots of wine. Hey, be on the mic, turn it up. Let's go. Hey, ramen, Pino, ready for the show. Everyone's welcome.

So come on in because OTV, it's about to begin. Hey. Welcome to Off the Vine. I'm your host, Caitlin Bristow. And as you already know, I am finally reunited with my loves, Jason, of course, Rahman and Pino. I miss the three of them so freaking much that I think my heart physically hurt. It's been so hard only seeing them through, you know, the screen for the last 40 days.

But having them here with me brings me a sense of comfort and joy. Okay, anyways, I'm so excited to have Jason actually join me on this episode because last time he was on, we talked about how we wanted to go on a double date with Katie and Blake. Well, guess what? They don't call me Caitlin Manifest Bristow for nothing because today we got to hang out with the newly engaged couple and dive deep into their relationship. Our first double date wouldn't be the same without my vinoes. So I hope you have fun listening to us chat about our anagrams, love languages, and how to use syrup as more than just a pancake topping. Hi.

Oh, my God. Katie, how freaking hot do you look? Thanks. I got ready just for you. Oh, my God. Your hair looks so good. No, I feel like an asshole because I definitely did not get ready for you. You're working. Yeah, you know what? I'm just a hot mess lately over here. Hey, guys. How are you? Good. Good. We're about sorry you guys right now. I'm in Hamilton right now.

Oh, nice. Okay. I'm back home now, for now. Back home. Gotcha, gotcha. The goodbyes were just going to get harder until you move in together. We've been saying that we've wanted to go on a double date with you guys for, obviously, since I knew you guys were together, which was longer than anybody. So, okay, let's set up. Where would we be and what would we do for our ideal double date?

I, for some reason, picture you and I getting really drunk and the guys having to, like, take care of us. I don't know why. I love this idea. I don't know. I think I'd be involved in that getting drunk charade for sure. So would Jason. Yeah, I think we would definitely spark some kind of games. And then, like, I don't know, I feel like it would get, like,

ultra competitive would be Blake and I versus you two. And then before we know, we'd, like, stand up and, like, all four of us were just, like, fall on her face on the way out of the place. That sounds like a good time. That sounds like a really good time. You guys were at Clifton Hill, right? Doing that in Canada. I saw your tweet.

Oh, my gosh. Look at Blake with his Tim Horton's mug. I'm so jealous. Wait, I thought we were all going to be drinking on this double date, so I poured some wine. You know what I normally do? But the last time I had a podcast, I had gotten shit for swearing too much, so I'm drinking coffee. That's so funny. Well, you can swear on Off the Vine here.

Here over at Off the Vine, we don't have rules. We don't. So I know you guys have obviously been able to spend some time together now. And when you first went through that whirlwind of, you know, media after the show, Did you get to do that in person, by the way, or was that all Zoom? GMA was in person, but the rest, and Jimmy Kim, obviously, but the rest was all Zoom. We sat there and just like. Okay.

Because that's such a whirlwind after the show and you're having to do all this. You're able to kind of come down, go on some normal dates. So what does a normal date look like for Katie and Blake? Well, we were a little tourist. We did the Niagara Falls tour on the boat, did like a haunted house together. are just, I don't know, what's it called, Clifton Hill? Is that what you said? Yeah.

You go screamers? Okay, so, no, I didn't take her there. I honestly wanted to chicken out last time I went there. So, uh, we went to some, like, shittier one, and I was still using her as a guard, like, the whole time. I'm, I don't do that shit. It's not like the haunted house. I had to beg him like a hundred times.

Yeah, he's so scared. It's a 24-7, 24-7 haunted, but 24-7 of me, it's not just during like Halloween, right? Oh, oh. And it is known, like everyone knows, it is the scariest haunted house in the, like, planet. And you could say, I think you say screamers at any point when you're there. And they immediately have exits because it's like so f*** up. No way. Yeah.

Wait. Like, but it has to be safe at the end of the day. Do you sign anything before you go in? I, listen. I mean, the first time I ever went to think it was like 21. And at that point, I like weed. I don't anymore because I can't handle it. It gets me paranoia.

But I remember the guy was 17 bucks I remember I was out to pay And the guys are just You know be careful the werewolf Okay, plus whatever And I remember I was halfway through And I was screaming screamers at the top of my along It's like it's not fun

And like you know But like when you're a little bit high too It just adds to the paranoia Oh that gives me anxiety just hearing about it I think we overlooked the fact you used Katie as a shield You said that right No we didn't overlook it It was a whole thing on social media

And I was like what the hell Lifted me off the ground not just it had me in front, like, lifting me and was dragging me through the end. I don't like pop out stuff. I said, like, I don't want to do this. And she bet. So I did it. Oh, my God.

I actually, I think I've said this on my podcast before, but I actually hit a guy in the face at a haunted house once because he jumped out at me. And my natural reaction was to hit him. And I was like, wow, that must happen to these people a lot. Like, they're the ones scaring us, but they have to deal like if a huge dude was in there and just jacked. and their immediate response is to smoke them in the face. Like, that's a normal reaction. What kind of hit, like, a back end? You're just like, cold cock?

Because she has an aggressive punch. I went like this. Like a buff. And I went, I'm so sorry. Oh, my gosh. I'm sorry. And he just like went back into the hole. And I was like, oh, my God, I just punched a guy.

But that must happen often. So that, you know what? He was just showing your strength in his weak moments, Katie. That's part of the relationship is, why are you looking at me like that? I'm just, yeah, I don't know what the takeaway is there. The takeaway is that when Blake has weak moments, Katie steps it up in her strengths and vice versa. Katie, that's beautiful.

Where would you use Blake for a shield in your life? What are you scared of? Spiders, he has to kill all spiders. Okay, that's fair. I'm actually not that scared of spiders. You're playing with one the other day. Oh, that I was finding a baby. We were at dinner and the spider came down and you were like, like, wanted to play with it.

No, I thought it was beautiful because it was just creating a web, and I was like, how magical is this little? spider. I have a question. Spiders. Is your mom afraid of spiders? I don't know where it came from, no matter what size they are. I've tried to overcome it because you're like, it's just a little bug. It's just a little bug. But like it's pure arachnophobia. I cannot get over it no matter how hard I tried. I feel that with birds. Can you feel that with needles? Because they say like, yeah, you grow, like you don't really have any fears until you're exposed like someone that like you look to as like safety and they're afraid of it. And then it's like stuck. A lot of people are

scared of spiders. Yeah, they say that's what they say I mean, yeah, so maybe Maybe your mom took you to a haunted house When you were little and it just never left You guys Okay, off the top of my head, this isn't even my notes

But I'm like, do you know what a tunie is, Katie? Oh shoot, it's like a hat, right? Oh, you should do this question Like all those little things A tunis I had to learn all this shit A drink? What is it?

Blake, did you guys do anything in Canada. She didn't touch coins. That's for shit. Okay. Oh, it's a coin. It's money. A $2 coin. Wait, do another one. Do another one. Okay, what's a loony? Another coin. Okay. Do something that's not going.

Okay. What's a double-double? Two beers. Blake's face. Blake, you didn't give her the Canada 101. He's obsessed with ice caps only. She just has ice cats and timbids. Okay. Okay. So you know what a timid is. Wait, do one more. I love this game. Okay, wait, do you know what a tuk is?

That's the hat. Yeah. Okay, okay, there you go. And then I could know. Okay. That's, yeah, we'll end it there. But that's, a double double is two creams, two sugars at Tim Hortons. Wait, what's the drink thing?

A Mickey? What's a Mickey? What's a Mickey again? A Mickey is a smaller, yeah, it's a small bottle of bottle. And then what's the big? There's like a big one. Two-four. A two-four.

That was my favorite. A two-four is a case of beer at 26ers, a liquor. And there's a 40 and a 60s. Oh, I have a glossary. I'll send it over to you. Yeah, thanks. I'm going to need it apparently. That's so true. But I saw you were eating some Canadian cuisine. You had some poutine and you had ketchup chips. Did you enjoy or did you enjoy? Those ones and the all dressed up chips as well, both very good. All dressed up. Or whatever.

It's just all dressed. But all dressed up is really cute. That is cute. All dressed up. good, though? They are really good. Why don't we have those in the same? Obviously, you've had syrup, because we all saw that, which we need to talk about for a second. I don't know if you've been asked this in interviews before, but that bottle of syrup was on the side table of your fantasy suite, and there was syrup gone in the morning. And I feel like Katie and I talked about this, but I'm like, I really, truly can't recall if it actually was used. Did you guys actually use syrup in the

bedroom? No, no. No, we did. We didn't. I would be, you know, I would come out and say that. No problem. We actually didn't. Wait, so what would you use syrup for though? I'm confused. We've never used syrup or anything like that. Because it's sticky and it's not sexy and that's why I was going to ask you about it because I'm like. Slippery and sweet. Slippery. In the moment until it dries. I see. So you use it from new. That's why you just get to it. Oh, you just get to it. Okay. Is this a thing? Pit or patter and get out of with the syrup.

Is syrup, like, in the bedroom a thing? Well, in Canada. For what? Like, loob? I feel like such a, like... He's literally Googling syrup lube right now. Serap lube. There's a whole lot of syrup lube out there.

Well, don't say anything. Let's get them that as a gift later. Maybe you guys can get that for us as a gift. Oh, my God. I just, I don't know. I can't get into it. But I was like, I really wanted to know if that was staged for production or if you actually used it. because I, for some reason, and maybe this was my mind playing tricks on me,

I thought Katie told me the next day that you guys did use it. All right. All right. We're reading their body language. Yes or no, do you think they use it in the fantasy suite? Yes. Yeah, I bet. Just going off body language.

That if you guys had to take a lie detector, it would be yes, but we'll pass out. We're going to let them have this. I mean, everyone, I see the blushing, the laughing. Everyone grills you with questions all the time. We're going to let you have this moment of privacy to you. yourself. Grab a coffee and discover non-stop action with Bud MGM Casino.

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That's going to be next on the list. Oh my gosh. Because, wait, Blake, don't you have a cat? Have a cat and a dog, yeah. You have a cat and a dog. Oh, my gosh. Is Tommy going to have only child syndrome? See, we've been having talks about what this is going to be like.

Because his cat, whose name is bear, I think is a little asshole. And Tommy is a senior citizen, and I need Bear to chill out when they finally meet. Because I don't know what's going to happen if they don't get along. That's so funny. I thought you were saying you were having this talk with Tommy, like what it's going to look like now in the future with a new man in your life. That's so good. Blake, do you agree with cats an asshole? No, no.

I mean, listen, I just, okay. Everyone loves their pets. He's just a little shit head. But he's not, he's not mean. She's just worried because she loves her cat more and I love my cat, I think. She's a little obsessive to Tommy. And, like, I get the whole ant because I have another cat right now at the time. My mom's cat and they fight and stuff.

And she doesn't like that. She's picturing Tommy doing that with Bear and she's just not excited about it. But it's just what it is. It's a dominance thing that just has to get sorted out at some point. So you haven't gotten to Seattle yet or no? No, I haven't. No, we came right back here and the next trip will be San Diego. That's what.

Oh, San Diego. Wait, let's talk about that. San Diego. That's where you guys would like to move. Yeah, so I'm actually moving in like two weeks. I'm literally sitting on the floor doing this interview because I got rid of all my furniture, whatever fits in my car is going on the drive down. And then once I'm all settled, Blake will come spend some time with me there. And we'll just kind of keep probably hopping back and forth so we kind of figure out, I don't know what the rest looks like. Yeah, because, I mean, trust me, a little Canadian over here who's been living in the States, for the last, I don't know, five years, I think, five years. And it's a process, like, but you can.

If you go back and forth, like, you can spend six months in San Diego, six months in Canada. And that's kind of then you get the best of both worlds. It's kind of sweet, actually. And I was, when I lived in Seattle, Caitlin was in Nashville, we did long distance for six months. And that was, I mean, it's far, but it was doable. Like, it sucks. It sucks. But it, like, we did it for six months.

That's a long time. Yeah. I mean, what are you guys going to do in San Diego? go do you have like are you like let's just figure this out together and like we'll go because that's kind of the beauty of feeling like a little free bird when you get to move to a new place and you come off the show and you have all these like plans and sometimes it's nice to have no plans and be like why don't you just get here and we'll figure it out yeah I mean for what I I love this off the cuspic adventure like I bet on myself I can handle any new challenge I love that sense of

of something new and fresh and so actually when it's going to be with Katie it's just exciting so like I don't worry about a thing we will just handle whatever it is and like it's just exciting this is exciting I think people don't like change I love that change and like especially when it's with your person it's just an exciting new thing yeah that's a good way to look at it can you come for certain like is there a certain period time you can come versus not coming because that's not a US citizen yeah that's what I have to really fully look into and I was going to touch base with Caitlin on like what she knows because I'm looking else that better than her in this situation so I don't talk about all those boring details after the pod but yeah it's it's a lot yeah no I just

say yeah that's the one thing we haven't really something we don't want to think about right now so it's like we're like rolling our eyes kind of just waiting to do that but yeah but that's I mean yeah I like your outlook on it I think you both have the same outlook where you're like you're only stressed because people are probably asking but deep down you're like I'm just excited to be together and like figure it out together so I know that's kind of like the way you both are, which is nice. And I feel like, Blake, we didn't really get to hear enough about your profession as a wildlife manager, because I really want to know more about that, and I love that you're both passionate about animals. Katie, you wanted to be a vet when you were growing

up, and I don't know, I just feel like, we picture you as the scene from Ace Ventura, like you walk into the house, and you just like, say, come to me, my jungle friends, and you're like, your little muskrette comes out of the toilet and the birds flock to you and all your animals are then you're just like oh like a doctor do little too yeah doctor do little i mean if i can have it my way in the future life would very much look like that we would talk about what life would look like potentially and like having a homestead with like a sanctuary we would take in ducks and all those things so i mean far off but yeah so originally when i first got out of um college or during college i found a job working with predator bird services was essentially worked with birds

of prey to control bird populations from anything from an airport to conservation areas, helping like deter bird species, like all different kinds of things work with hawks and falcons, all the kind of stuff, which I did off and on for the longest time. Then I found myself, worked myself into pest and wildlife management where I worked as a technician first, then I helped open the wildlife division and that's dealing with everything from like reckons and an addict to anything you could think of just like, because I love that stuff. And that's the thing is, like, the pest control people are like, past them all out control. It's like, it's like, oh, it's a scary job.

I can never do that. Like, it's not for me. But, like, I flourish in that shit because I'm, like, I'm picking up bugs all the time with Kane. She's like, stop. That's disgusting. But, like, I'm not picking them up. He'll put a bug in his, a dead bug in his mouth. Why?

Come on. Like, for fun. For fun. I didn't even dare him. There's no reward. What? Okay. Don't pass over that.

Wait, did you, like, in college, did you study this? Like, is this always that? I went to school for outdoor adventure. So it was like survival guiding, rock climbing, river guiding, like all outdoor related type stuff. And then, but the animal stuff was what I always wanted to do. And then it slowly transitioned. I worked for birds of prey again right before coming onto the show.

And then I went to Africa right before the show as well, which switched my mind and realized I didn't want to do more and on a bigger scale. And that's what's transition means to doing this. Africa work, which is all coming ahead. That's amazing. Wait. And so you put bugs in your mouth for fun. Okay.

So like, Katie, I got you. Thank you. So like, I'm not scared of it. Any good stuff. I'm like, I don't know how to explain it. I watch every documentary on like anything from insects, wildlife. And like I know what you can and can't eat and that stuff. And it doesn't freak me out.

Like I've eaten copper and crickets and stuff. And so yeah, the odd time, if I know I can freak her out, pop a beetle on my mouth. And she's like, what the. That's the, that's the moments I live for. Did you, did you do this on the show at any point? Did you get to see this side of Blake before? I was going to say, there's a snake wrangler on your guys' engagement day. There is a snake wrangler who got a snake that day that you guys got engaged.

And so I was wondering, I'm like, I feel like Blake could have been out there while Katie was pondering. Blake could have been out there wrangling snakes. So like, I got to you. I'm just, just clearing the stage. wait wait wait so my brain's moving a little slow today there was like you're saying when you're filming there was like a snake wrangler yes to make sure that when they got proposed like there wasn't a snake I'm like what yeah wow yeah it was like snake season yeah it was snake season wow Blake would have thrived in that yeah you would have been a true hero for everybody that's so

so snakes don't freak you out no no oh my god San Diego zoo is like the biggest and best zoo in the I've heard of that. I've heard of them. Yeah. Put it out there, Blake. I've never been there, but I hear it's fantastic. Oh, my gosh. Are you not into the zoo thing? Because it's not wild life.

It's very situation-based. Like, there's some zoos where it's very clear that their animals are going to stir crazy. And, like, there isn't enough enrichment in the cages and things like that, which I'm, I still aware from. But then there's some that are great that take animals in that can't be in the wild. And so I'm very particular about that makes sense. But that makes sense. but what's your what's your favorite animal i i would have to say rhino a rhino just because i've

went and done it and been there and i when you get wrapped up and you see the devastation that's happening when you're working with baby rhinos and you understand that their moms are being poached and slaughtered for their horns you just a connection there that had in africa and just like they're almost prehistoric in some way that's makes it be like a dinosaur but they're actually giant puppies and yeah i just got really connected that way with that oh i love that wait now i love rhinos i want to tonight she'll be looking up baby rhino i'm totally looking up baby rhinos but katie what's your favorite animal i mean if it had to be like a wild animal i'd be the lion just naturally the big cats of africa yeah that makes sense oh my gosh i can't wait for you guys to go to africa

together and all of the content that we will be blessed with on our feeds from that that sounds so nice. Okay, we're going to get deep for a second. Okay, that's deep. I'm always into, I'm like super spiritual in certain ways and I love doing like astrology and anagram and all those things. And so I made you guys take an enneagram test before you did this podcast. Now, I have one question before we start. Did you do it separately or did you do it together on like the phone or Zoom or FaceTime? Exactly. Okay, good. We're on the couch and we took it at the same time. If that That's what you mean. No, but she said we didn't answer the questions together.

Like we took it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Oh, so you were together. You took the test, but you were not sharing, like, okay, okay. I love that.

Okay, that's perfect. I'm really glad that that's the way this conversation just went. Okay. So what number on the aneogram chart are you, Blake? It looks like it's a dead tie, but it gives me five. Five and eight are like dead. Oh. Okay.

So what is the five? I didn't look at like it doesn't I had to register and upgrade and all this stuff I like made you spend all this money on like I just didn't save what it said it was but five and eight I mean I think you can pull it up really quickly yeah I'm going to pull it up right now eight is a good one it's isn't that like the loyalist or I don't think there are like I think it's like a therapist would tell you there's no definition of good one or bad one it just defines like who you are and it helps you get to know your self better and your partner better, right? That's true. Oh, wow. Look at Jason, looking more about, knowing more about the endogram of me. Yeah, because there's healthy ways of thinking in your own number and there's impaired ways of thinking. So the five is the investigator. Okay, innovative, secretive, isolated, perceptive, but with an eight wing. Okay, wait, your basic fear, tell me if this is right. Is your basic fear being useless, helpless, or incapable? Yeah, I don't like that. Okay.

I like to feel on all the time. Yeah. Okay. Basic desire to be capable and competent. Yes. Oh, look at this. The first thing it says, want to possess knowledge to understand the environment. That's trippy.

That is to have everything figured out as a way of defending themselves from threats from the environment. Okay, there's so, you need to like fully, fully read it because it is so interesting. And it'll help you guys in your relationship because it helps with relationships, even if you're a business. partner, a friend, a family member, in a relationship, because what you'll learn about each other from it is where you go to and your impaired way of thinking. So if you're defensive or something really triggers you, the other person can recognize that, oh, he's going into this mode of his unhealthy way of thinking. I can bring him out because I know this will help, like, or vice versa. You can just really like learn how to argue together or learn each other's like,

it's like a deeper love language too. So that's, you should really look into being. to five, you know what I'm going to do is at the end of this podcast, I'm going to get someone that does eneagrams, and I'm going to get them to read out your number and your number, Katie. Yeah, that's a good idea. Okay, so you're a five. Okay, Katie, what were you? Eight was my dominant one. Eight was that.

Okay, I feel like, oh, that's funny that I said. While you're looking that up, I'll read some of the stuff they say is like they'll give you tips and tricks of how to communicate with a five. So what they say is allow plenty of personal space and time to think, avoid being overly emotional, express thoughts clearly and logically. If you're emailing an Enneagram 5, skip the small talk, be direct, clear with what you're doing. And if you're giving feedback, because I'm sure you might have a piece or two of feedback to get play, as Katie, Caitlin does for me. Be honest about growth areas and offer constructive criticism. Yeah, that's really cool. Like when you

understand. That's really weird. Just like both of those things that nails it. Really? Okay. Do you communicate with an eight because it says eights um are self-confidence strong assertive protective resourceful straight talking and decisive but can also be domineering eights feel like they're must control their environment especially people see this is what i'm just reading the little blur that gave me but that's there's also like all these beautiful things and then there it's like a combination of because we love obviously self-confidence strong assertive they'll give you like your qualities that you thrive in and then the qualities that you could work on. Yeah.

Eight's the Challenger. Oh, the Challenger. Yeah. So your basic desire, it says, is to protect yourself to be in control of your life and destiny. Your biggest fear is being harmed or controlled by others. It talks about motivations, the whole eight overview and your forms of communication, stuff like that.

That's so cool. Yeah, that's pretty, Katie, would you say? That's pretty, shh. yeah i'm pretty direct i remember like reading about eighth very briefly and it was like oh yeah i'm pretty like to the point direct and sometimes people can definitely take that the wrong way so it's like a good and a bad at the same time yeah that's the thing like mine mine can be good and bad too i'm like the most emotional one on the chart which is funny because i used to be a three and over the years i've changed into a four the individualist is the four yeah the individualist

Expressive, dramatic, self-absorbed temperament. There's nothing bad. It's just you. Fours are self-aware, sensitive, and reserved. They're emotionally honest, creative, and personal, but can also be moody and self-conscious. That's me. That's my guy. What are you made?

You know, it's so funny. I saw on TikTok the other day this, I was going to do it and just send it to you, not put it out there. But it was, well, I should put it out there. It goes, guess he was on her? period and then it goes into like the dark like satanic voice is like me i was like wow if that ain't me i love doing this stuff because i feel like it'll just be good for you guys in your day-to-day life or in your relationship because at this point i mean it's a tough foundation to start on i'll always say that about bachelor like franchise it's

a really tough foundation to start on. And I feel like just from knowing and being there and seeing you guys, I know you already had like pretty good foundation compared to a lot of couples out there who come off the show, it's, it's really hard. But it can't all be butterflies and rainbows and frappuccinos. What do you like? Not a double, double. What is it?

The ice cap. Ice caps. So what has been something that maybe the Enneagram can help you with in challenging times? What's a challenge you guys have come across? Well, I know we've actually spoke about the love languages pretty early into our relationship because, of course, we're relying on texting and FaceTime because we are apart. And I think that was one of our very early, I don't say like difficult conversations, but like, look, this is how I feel loved and I need this from you. And he's like, well, this is how I've grown up expressing love. So I'll work on it and just having that conversation pretty early. And that was really helpful that we were just both very just open and honest about that because we were able to kind of overcome any communication. difficulties in, you know, texting and having this long-distance relationship. Because, Katie, you like,

correct me if I'm wrong, but words of affirmation? Yep. Yeah. And, like, are you more physical touch? Yes. Yeah. What is your main one, though?

Yeah, I think it is. I think it's just, God, I nailed it. Yeah, so I feel like that's kind of, your words of affirmation, too. Yeah, words of affirmation, I think, acts of service. Oh, that's good, because I show,

love in acts of service, that's definitely how I show love. Words of affirmation is not your four days. Words of affirmation is not my strong point. No, it's, it's, it's really hard for me. And Jason's really good at giving words of affirmation and that's my love language. So that really works. So I'm glad I at least do acts of service. I think you're quality time too. Like if you had two, I think those are important to you. Okay. So Blake, you've had to work on like expressing how you feel or saying like, like, okay, what do you struggle with? What do you tell me? I'm just not, like, overly expressive, like verbally, but I'm very, I would say, like, I'm very, like, playful and physical and, like, I do, I don't know, Kate, how would you explain it?

Like, I show it a lot, but it doesn't come to my mouth much, but I, I over-emphasize the other stuff to try to make up for it, because it doesn't, it doesn't always feel comfortable. And so, like, it feels forth sometimes. So I try to stay other ways. I don't know. That makes so much sense, because I can relate to that, obviously. it's funny because my family like we all obviously are products of our environment and my family was so loving so words of affirmation through the whole family everyone talked about how they felt all

the time how much they loved each other like it was very much words so it's very strange that i struggle with that it doesn't make a lot of sense yeah but katie what were you going to say oh i was just going to say yeah like he he's not the greatest with his words but like when i'm stressed he figures out how to like solve that for me or more together he's very physical in a very loving way. So he shows love in all these other ways. And so that's also something I've had to understand is like, while he might not be the best of expressing it,

because that's not how he was raised, he is still very good at showing it all these other ways that I have to, you know, remind myself occasionally. Yeah. This is, I should never assume, but I'm going to assume between the show and now at some point you've gotten into like an argument or there's some type of discussion that's created like a drama, I guess, right?

every couple does but I have a question like how you handle it like because and I'm gonna I'll tell you how I do it like suppose something like dramatic comes up or something like there's something you got to discuss or it's you're saying like how do you handle it are you someone that like you step right into it and you're like let's talk about it are you someone that's like I just don't want to deal with it or you someone that runs for like how do you deal with that kind of stuff um we have for so I think to be honest with you Kay I mean you could say otherwise we really haven't run into like we knit things in the butt we're very just on we're calm with all of it like we never get so good we never get up and like but i just like i don't let it i'm like what do we what are we doing here like we're it's fine we're just i don't know we have we have a way of just i don't know kitty you can probably go on it more that's i mean i don't we're not um we we aren't passive aggressive with our um problems and if there is a problem we don't it's not even address as a problem it's like you know when people hold it in for a long time and they're just trying to like keep it all ball. We don't do that.

And so I'm sure by definition, maybe there have been like issues, but because of the way we approach it, it doesn't actually feel like we've had issues. We just have open communication and we resolve it like within that same conversation. That's so impressive. Good for you guys. Come to the resolution.

Like what are we, you know, one thing that I hate and I talk, I talk with Katie about this is like, and I think that people overlook is like stress and like people, let stress get them all the time. If you can eliminate the stress, especially if it's controlled stress that you can actually manage yourself, stressors are going to come in so many other ways from outside sources. But if you can control your person's, your own stressors, then you can handle

the other stressors that come externally better because you don't have any of your own to deal with. And so we're very just proactive. We knit things in the buck. We have the conversation. We do stuff so that when other things come at us, and all these are dumb questions and things that people want to get us going, they're just like, no, we've already handled all this internally. Okay,

I think this is such an amazing skill set, and I don't think a lot of people, like, have that quality. Could you think of, like, one example since the show that's been stressful, that you immediately were just like, no, this is how we're going to handle it?

I have something. Okay, go. I want a learning lesson here. Well, I think the biggest stressor that we had to deal with was the kind of, final episodes, you know, especially like the Greg stuff. And so again, very early on, I was very open about things I said, ways that I felt like there was no hiding it. There was no like pulled off to the last minute. Again, we just remained very open and talked about it. And we were

both just kind of understanding and like how it would make him feel, but also he was understanding in my role, you know, during filming. And we were able to get through that a lot easier than I think people probably expected. You know, I remember reading comments, people like, oh, it's going to suck forever. she's engaged with like watching this episode and it's like yeah you know but we already talked about it and we've worked through it and we're such a strong couple now that that moment really didn't rock us that's cool yeah that's really just impressive on both parts because there's i know a lot of bachelor couples and i'm not going to name names i know a lot of them and that's always a really tricky part of the show is navigating that part of it so kudos to both of you for handling it like that

and knowing the bigger picture because i think sometimes you get so lost in that bachelor's or at bubble of what love is that you lose sight of the bigger picture in life. And you think that's all that matters. You know, this is what I think of. You know, in high school, you think that's like it. And you're like, if you're not popular or in love and you get your heartbroken and people or girls are mean, like you think high school is it. And then you go off and you realize how you don't even remember high school.

And it was just such a stupid chapter in your life. Like, not stupid, but like it obviously is pivotal in how you go out into the world. But at the same time, you realize, oh, that was just a moment in time that has set me up for where I'm going in the bigger picture. Yeah. I think it's, and it's so good that you guys proactively communicate like that. Because I think just in the couples, like, we've met are people that we know that it hasn't worked out. When people ask me, like, why do you think it is that like bachelor couples don't work out or like, what are you guys doing that it's working? I would say the two things.

I don't know if you agree with this or not, but I think one, people forget that you're together for like three months. And then you have to go watch all this shit back. Like that is not easy. And then I think the second one is ego. I think people like, you know, they get off the show and they build this ego. And then it becomes a competition. It doesn't become supportive. And it's, this is my thing.

Like, I think that, those are probably the two things. Well, I mean, ego for sure. It's that on top of like, you hurt me on national television. It's their ego more that gets bruised than like what they actually are feeling. And they let that take over. And the resentment bill. And it never goes away, right? So that makes me so happy to hear you guys say that because that's huge.

And that will, that actually just gives that alone is a solid foundation to start on. So I'm really proud of you both for that. Yeah, good for you guys. Why are we getting emotional? That's awesome. Cate was like, Brian, you're such a. It's not a period. I love my period, okay?

You are? I'm a four. That's another thing. You can't use your number as an excuse. Or holding against each other in a fight. I'd be like, that is such a three. I think it's just perspective and like when you look at I try to look at like life as a big picture and it's like I think people need to just shrug more people get so caught up in like little things it's like you're like shrug okay we'll deal with it move on like this is such a small thing in time if we can't manage these little things that we knew we signed up for on the show how fuck are we going to make it through the rest of life when all these crazier things are going to come and it's like we have to tackle this. This is nothing, really. Let's just deal with it. We know what this was coming. And so let's just move forward and possible.

That's awesome. I love that. Wait, how do you handle conflict, Jason? How do I handle conflict? So first of all, Caitlin and I are both very outspoken. And one of the things we do well is communicate. One of the things that we probably need to work on is we over-communicate. So we'll go like toe to toe to toe on everything. But one thing I always try to do. And I think you would agree with this. is like if there is a if we're going toe to toe to toe on something let's at least have some takeaway from this so we don't go toe to toe to on the same thing right let's let not let history repeat itself and I think to do that it does take some self-awareness it also takes accountability and I think most couples from what I've just heard I think that's where some people will lose it is they're not willing to say like okay you know what in this situation you're right here's where

I was wrong right I need to work on that and here's where you may have been wrong let's both take accountability for that and let's move on. But I also hate conflict. I don't want to. Wait, you're finding loopholes here. How do you, Jason Tardek? How is that loopholes? I just told you how we deal with that. You said we overcommunicate, but how do you, like, if something happens, that's stressful. Yeah. And I am like, mad or there's a situation. Yeah. How do you do? I want to, I'm like, I just want to fix it. Like, what do we? I'm not saying it's the right way, but I'm just okay, what can I do? How do we fix this? How do we solve it? Because I get so uncomfortable with, like, conflict. Yeah, I don't like it.

I'm like, no, I don't like this. Jason's such a positive person, and he is such a problem solver at all times, that sometimes I'm like, no, I just need you to acknowledge the fact that I'm upset and that you understand it, not try and fix it all the time. Yeah, that's true. That's true. And he's very level-headed, but sometimes, again, too level-headed where you're just like, and you're defensive.

I'm defensive. Oh, I went on a double date with you guys and Connor B. I remember some of those conversations. Oh, yeah. We were going ahead and they cut that out. Oh, yeah. Okay, that's so funny because we, I still Bennett, who is obviously an executive producer of the show, he will still, to this day, be like, Kailin, Jason is such a better cook than you. And I'm like, that's what it was.

Because in this double date, so they edited this out. But Katie and Connor and Jason and I went on obviously a double date. I'm having much more fun with you, Blake. but it was we had to do like a like you hold up a very innocent fun game yeah who's cleaner at home who's the better cook and I pride myself on cooking because it's one of my love languages it's an act of service it's something I do out of love it's something that I put so much heart and love into because I even want to present it perfectly like I actually didn't know this like I didn't know it was until that date yeah oh I learned I learned that day

He tried to say, this guy is like the most, like, just cooks for fuel. He'll just grill a chicken breast and steam some frozen veggies. Yeah. But I keep going. Here we all around. And I will like. Shit, we didn't learn anything. Everything I said trying to learn so it doesn't repeat.

I didn't learn. Anyways, I put so much love into cooking for somebody, no matter who it is. Katie, I don't know if you remember this, but I would cook for people on the show. I'd be like, like, that's just what I did. And so when Jason was like, no, I'm the better cook. I was like oh ha ha good one like obviously he's joking and he was like no I think I am and I got hurt because I was like do not see the love I put into cooking like I was so hurt that I and I react with emotions or I was like she's like smacking me with the paddle I'm like no okay we were witnessing it was like watching a couple fight and we were just like okay I don't know what to do you I'm looking at Connor like uh should we go I think like the ideas oh we'll have Katie and Jay Caitlin and Jason here will be like this perfect couple that's on the right page and then like Connor and Katie will be off but really the whole time you and I were just going at it

because of the stupid battle game. Oh, I love it though. Confessions, obviously, Katie, you know. Everyone confessed to me on the podcast and we thought it would be funny to do a couple's confession if, you know, maybe a little maple syrup accident. I don't know. Something embarrassing you want to share.

I mean, it's not embarrassing, but maybe his family would be ashamed of our boat ride? You'll get used to that. Ooh, the boat ride. What happened? Well, I'm looking at him for a pro. A what? A soft I was on it? How soft you were. Hold, hold.

Like a second, I feel like... As in like, I didn't like the water, not like soft. Oh, not like... We're not talking like hard soft. Oh, we're talking like scared soft. Yeah. Okay, you gotta translate that Canadian jargon. Okay, that's for sure not what Katie's talking about.

Well, that's why my mind went somewhere else when he said that, because my mind is... I'm still looking at. I'm like, do you know what I'm talking about? What? Numerable. I know. On the boat?

Yes. Maybe this is his way of being like, Katie, don't. My family will kill me. That's one thing that, like, you'll get over. Like, I remember the first time I got off the show and Caitlin shared a story. My parents and stuff were like, I can't believe it. Now they're like, we love it. Share more.

It's so, it's so funny. His family definitely was a little shocked at first. But I think once they get to know me, they're like, oh, it's Caitlin, classic Caitlin. But it's funny, too. Yeah, but just to... Jason and his dad does this, too. I'll kick him under the table, and he'll go, why are you kicking me? And I'm like, who does that?

Be on my team. Anyways, back to the boat. You guys clearly had sexy time on the boat. It's fine. Was he hard? Was he soft? Which boat was it? And his words said he was soft.

You're obviously not too soft on the boat. God. Wait, Blake, do you get embarrassed easily about this? He's turned a little red. I don't embarrass. I'm very open about sexuality, clearly. That's what I thought. Yes.

So you just don't remember the boat? Were you bombed too? Katie, you're the one who brought this up. I was just trying to see if this was, I don't know how his family would feel about it. So that's why I was looking at him for, like, approval. Wait, because it was their boat? Yeah. Oh.

I feel like, Blake, you're so open with your family. Like, as soon as you got to. like physical attraction is ain't no thing like we're at work cool and katie was like oh my gosh so i feel like it's okay i feel like they would assume you guys went out and you know what is it called chris in the boat yeah we'll call it that yeah oh went fishing for something else like while it's moving or when it's parked no we i tucked it in a hidden kind of bay romantic so romantic it does sound like you sure there weren't any cameras out there.

Yeah, I'm worried about you guys. Nobody saw? Maybe they did. I've been on that lake for like 20 years. I knew there's nothing going on there. You've got to hold your breath. Reality, Steve drops like eight pictures from your ball. After the stuff, so.

You're like, no. My gosh. That's so, wait, Blake, did you have a different confession in mind or is that you guys are on the same page? No, we're on the same page. I was thought she was talking about the Boat Nagar Falls. I was like, what do you talk? I was like, shoot.

really doesn't want to talk about this. I really screwed up. That's funny, because I was like, no, Blake's so open about this. But that's, no, that's good for you guys. You've got to, you know, park the boat sometimes. Park that Big Mac truck right in her little garage. On the boat. With a little maple syrup on the side. Oh, my goodness. Do we have a confession as a couple? Uh, I don't know. I think we need to find a boat and syrup, though. I agree. I agree. Adding the syrup in there. So I was trying to think, though, of a couple's confession that we would have.

And I'm like, I don't even know what we consider like a confession anymore. I think that the date thing was pretty funny. What? Because we're wondering, we're like, how are they, how's this going to work? Like, because we were going at it. Yeah, I was really, like, sad. I was so sad. And Jason stood by it that he was a better.

It was so awkward. Let's have, I think what we should do is have a chef off and we'll have a whole panel. And we'll take it to a contest. so fucking down and we'll raise it for like raise mind for charity and it's got to be like one of these things like you're given you know kind of like chop you give one fridge you get like I don't know you have to like get creative with it Jason you should be scared I don't know why you're so confident in your cooking let's do it and it can't be anybody that's biased Katie you can be on the panel okay yeah we'll do blind taste test like we won't know whose it is oh that's such a good

idea that's even better let's do this okay I'm down this is the double date this is what's happening you guys are cooking for us we don't know who's making what we will rank your food and the winner is truly the best cook no matter you know okay i'm good with that i will say i think vagus odds you're i'm because being software i think vagus odds have you is a slight advantage but you're you're your death i'm an underdog i'm an underdog i'm an under god so you admit i'm the better cook well if you got to see we got to bring it to chopped oh my gosh you just said i thank you that will i will keep that and i will live with that forever okay you know what, that's a fun double date idea.

I feel like the four of us that would love games or like something fun like that. We'll make a whole thing out of it. It'll be fun. And then we'll podcast about it after. Okay, well, because we like games, we might as well play a couple with you before we go. Wouldn't be an off-the-vine podcast without a game. So, I've got animal myth busters for you. So we know, obviously, Blake, you love.

and work with animals we recently learned katie wanted to be a vet growing up so jay and i love animals too thought it we could test you on some animal myth versus facts so are the below true or false ready okay a pig's orgasm lasts 30 minutes i'm gonna say true if they have it long i think it is long it's true yeah yeah nice lucky pig that's what could you imagine that actually sounds exhausting minutes like what sounds exhausting speaking of humping camels store excess water in their humps do they i feel like it's a trick question no wait wait wait i'm gonna say it's not true i'm going opposite of you no they they can go long periods of time very long periods of time without it where is it stored i don't know a lot of accounts a ticket you already said true i'm going to say they do

fat in there. Okay. Woo! Okay, so. Here we go. This is where our competitive side. The competitive, yes. Yeah, I'm starting to see it now.

Ask a movie better. Okay, wait. That's what. Katie, you better know the answer to this. Female lions do 90% of the hunting. True. It's based on the movie the Lion King. They are.

Yeah. Yeah. That is true. Three, two. Three, Katie, two, Blake. Here we go. Okay. Touching a toad can give you warts. Katie?

False. Yeah. 4.3. Okay. Bats are blind, hence the saying blind as a bat. I know the answer. Blake? I feel like technically they're not blind. They just had poor vision. So I'm going to say false. Okay. Blake? That's not blind.

But yeah, no, they're not. Yeah. Look at you guys. You really do know you're... I would have been like, that's true. Blatz are blind. Blats are blind. Like too many wines at 3.30.

Hello. I'm just crushing coffee. She's crushing wine. I love our life. Okay, koala's sleep up to 22 hours per day. I think it's up to you. True. True.

Okay. Are you still keeping score? Yeah. Blake's down by one, but I want to get like a real tough one. Okay. For this one, we'll go to... You messed up on the camels. Okay.

Squirrels are known to adopt orphans. Katie? True. Blake? I don't think they do. It is true. Yeah. Katie's crushing.

Okay. Great celebration. Wait, you know, Blake's not afraid of spiders. Katie is, humans on average swallow eight spiders a year in their sleep. Okay. I've heard this, but I want to know how they are actually conducting this study. I'm going to say false for my own sanity, and I'm hoping it's false. I know. I've heard this too, and I don't know what it's true. I'm going to say true.

No, it's false. Blake's getting dusted out here in his own wheelhouse, animal kingdom. Okay, last one. Cows produce more milk when listening to slow music. That's a very sweet fact if it's true. I don't like the dairy industry, but I'm going to go with no. I would say true. It is true. Oh!

The dairy industry does scare me, too, by the way. Have you watched Dairy is scary? I watch all of it. Have you watched The Octopus Teacher? Yes. That's the best documentary, like, at war. Documentary. Have you seen that, right?

With the octopus thing? Yeah, I refuse to eat Calamara. Yeah. Anyways. Yeah, I know. It opens your eyes for sure. It really does. does open your eyes. Okay, the last one we have

for you is, again, I feel like the classic couples game of Never Have I Ever, Romance Edition. You know, it's what day is it today? Is it Friday? This one's just for Blake and Katie, right? Yeah, it's Friday. No, it's never have I ever. It's all

four of us have to play. Oh, boy. Now, this would be a lot better if you guys were drinking, but never have I ever used maple syrup in the bedroom. What are we supposed to do? I know. I was like, do I put a hand down, or do you say true or false? Oh, you say we have, or we have not. And just to not, you know, a little disclaimer, to not cause any controversy,

we're talking strictly about just the relationship at hand. Yeah. Yeah. Oh. Oh, whoa. You think I've used maple syrup with someone else? I feel like they're still avoiding this question. I like the mystery.

Okay, we're going to leave that as a mystery. I like that. Okay. Oh, the eye roll. See, they did. They used it. They used it. Okay, never have I ever used a food product other than syrup in the bedroom?

We're like running through all the time as we've been together. We have not. No, we haven't. Okay. Yeah, I'm like, is that like a big thing? I'm unsure I think I was just going to be like as like the youth

I feel like as a younger adult you know or like maybe teenager you're like oh whipped cream chocolate you know but now as an adult you're like that you're like that's just for the movies and they set us up for failure I can't believe in bringing this up but you know like flavored condoms

what a stupid thing that's a good point condoms in general Jason condoms and jam so we might have I made a baby on that boat in Canada. There we go. 80%.

I'm just kidding. Unprotected six. Unprotected six. That's so. That would a line. Oh, my God. Blake just stole the show. You really made up for that last game.

Okay, never have I ever dated someone with a foot fetish? No. No, I don't wear it. Okay, none of that's weird. We are all boring, no. Never have I ever been attracted to a significant. significant others sibling i was i dated a twin yeah that's not true yeah yeah i've been attracted to someone's sibling yeah really i don't think i've dated anyone with a brother so i mean

until now interesting yeah same oh okay wow interesting okay never have you ever flirted your way out of a speeding ticket i have oh no my only speeding ticket was a girl and she was and i was like 16 or 17 so you know they're like not forgiving when you're young because they want to like train you early and i was like i'm screwed i didn't even try i just like yeah i messed up i've tried everything and it never works like even though on the way back from new mexico i got a ticket for being in the left lane too wrong when i was driving home too long that's it so when i got pulled over i like told the dogs to come up the front you know like hoping i would help didn't help oh my gosh yeah i get mad at him all the time for driving too long in the left lane

because it's for passing. But are you constantly passing? Or are you being a shithead in the left lane? No, I'm going fast. He's being the shithead in the left lane. What's his shithead in the left lane? Cruise in there. I mean, it's not like there's a line behind you.

I'm in the middle of New Mexico. No one's even on the road. But that's just etiquette for the road. In Europe, they all know what they're doing. Being a shithead in the left lane. That's exactly what I mean. Actually, the ticket said, you are a shithead in the left lane. Move over.

It's true. You're not like, sometimes people are like creeping up. up and I'm like, get out of the way for them. And you're like, don't realize it because you're cruising in the left lane. I was cruising, and I got sniped. And I deserved the ticket. Okay, never have we ever used a dating website or app? I have definitely used to.

Yeah. I have not. Really? Really? I have not. Never. I don't think they were really. Well, you went on the show.

What year was that? Oh, true. Like, probably the peak of. It was like, right when it was. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, no. And then you were, like, such a hot shot, like, who needs the dating app anyway? Got Instagram DMs now. I got to date 30 guys.

Yeah. Okay, last one. Oh, wait, that's actually so funny. I wrote this before I knew your confession. Never have we ever had sexy time in a public place. Oh, well, now you know. Now his parents know as well. And now a lot of other people in Bachelor Nation know as well.

Your dad's going to be out there just like your parents would be scrubbing the boat this weekend. Just like, sick bad. Yeah, please, if you could get footage of your family cleaning the boat so I could use it for my off-the-vine socials to promote this podcast, that would be incredible. That's funny. That's funny. That's so fun. I'm so excited for you guys. I feel like you're in a good place. I feel like the love you guys have for each other.

Like, I, you know, obviously saw that earlier on. but I always like I always said and I think I said the cetacea and she agreed is I was like I just I really believe in them like I really truly do believe in you guys and no pressure because if it doesn't work it doesn't work but I really do I just see it working and I'm just so like honored that I got to be a part of that and I loved having a double date with you guys today well yeah we appreciate this time we haven't really got to we haven't really got to celebrate with anyone or do anything still so I know. Well, we'll definitely do it in person when we can. Yeah. Because, I mean, when do you guys plan on going to? Katie, I know you're going to San Diego right away. But when do you guys plan on, like, actually being together? So I think I'm planning to go right from New York in September, like around the 10th and probably go right to San Diego. I don't know how long I'm going to stay yet. We're going to figure that out. And then from there, we'll be back and forth. So it's hard to say. We're going to like, we have to see, like, what are we working with? Yeah. The whole pets thing is really tough, right? Because how long has been for and, like, that kind of, well, we've got to go ahead.

That is. And it's not like a quick, it's not like a quick road trip from your side of Canada to that side of America. Yeah. You can throw the dogs and just go for a road trip. But, yeah. And so what is, I know, like, obviously not, like, putting any pressure on you, but you guys have exciting, anything exciting coming up? Like, obviously, like, going to Africa. or doing something? What's your next thing you're looking forward to as a couple?

I know that she, I know, Kay, you're obviously really excited to move in and like that fresh start of a new apartment and a place that you want to be. And, you know, I'll get to go there and like help her do a lot of those things. I think it's September and really get situated. Aside from that, it's we do want to go to Africa and there's potential things and Zoom meetings I have to potentially set something up, but really cool to go do a honeymoon type situation in Africa. And there's a couple things I have in mind for that. So I think it's that. I think we want to share each other's like passions and things and like really get an element with each other. Because that's when I think you really start to like thrive, right? You get to see what makes your person the happiest. And so

I think we'll be back and forth doing that type of stuff. I think for most part. That's really sweet. I'm so excited for you guys. Yeah. I really am. Yeah. It's such a great. Great party. Yeah. Oh my gosh. And I hope you guys like take pictures and write things down and like just really be in the moment of this part of your relationship because it's just such a fun exciting time especially with the attitudes you both have and the perspective and everything that you've got going on it's just I feel like you will you'll enjoy every minute so we are so excited and ignore the noise too like do it your way who care people like why aren't you moving in together this oh that's not going to work out like you create your own

map do it the way you want the way that's best for you and there's so much noise ignore it and just just enjoy every minute of it. It's awesome. Yeah, we've been pretty good with what's just like, not getting a fuck. That's incredible. So good. I do feel like you both have that right attitude with it and just continue that. Yeah, that's awesome. And you know what? Next time we all hang in person, I am setting up this double date so hard with the cooking. It's on, girl, the belt's on the line. I will win. I'm not even worried about it. I just can't wait to finally have that title. here. I'm so excited. And you guys just get to reap the benefits of eating all the food. And I will obviously be pouring spayed and sparrows. So thank you guys so much for coming on. And it was so

fun and just can't wait to see what you guys do next. Awesome. Thanks guys. Congratulations, guys. Thank you. Thank you. All right. I know I said at the end of this episode, I would have an eneagram specialist talk about Katie and Blake's number and the meaning behind it. Look, I'm going to be honest with you guys, okay? I'm a little busy over here, and I couldn't find someone to do an actual recording and turn this episode around in time for you guys, and I wanted to get it out. So I found this girl on Instagram, her name's Ashton, and she explains all of the types in her highlight reel on Instagram. So I thought it would be cool to give her a little Instagramy, a little shout out,

and everybody can go to her highlight reel and look at the numbers and their meaning because I just did it and let me tell you it feels you just you should find out for yourself what number you are and look into her highlights because i just feel so validated reading them okay enjoy my little love bugs that's any of graham ashton i'm katelym bristow i'll see you next tuesday thanks for listening to off the vine with kately bristow get new episodes every tuesday exclusively on Podcast1.com, the Podcast One app

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