Off The Vine with Kaitlyn Bristowe - Amanda Stanton

Episode Date: July 30, 2019

Today, member of the Bachelor nation sorority first appearing on season 20, mother of two girls, founder of the mother-daughter fashion brand Lani the Label, and author of the upcoming memoir “Now Accepting Roses”, Amanda Stanton hangs out with Kaitlyn in Mexico. Find out which member of Bachelor nation ghosted Amanda after a year of dating as she discusses navigating the dating world as a single mother. Amanda talks about the process of writing her new memoir and how it turned out juicier than intended. And Kaitlyn gets some new strategies for dealing with anxiety when she and Amanda discuss their ongoing work with mental health. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Here's Caitlin. Welcome to Off the Vine. I'm your host, Caitlin Bristow. Today on the podcast, I have another member of Bachelor Nation fraternity. Cleo wrote that opening. Why do we call it a fraternity? Sorority. Sorority.

Yeah. I'll go with that. Who first made her appearance on the franchise in season 20 of The Bachelor starring my ex-boyfriend, Ben Higgins. I call him an ex all the time. He's actually a good friend. She is the mom of two beautiful girls, the founder of a new mother-daughter fashion brand,

and the author of a soon-to-be-released memoir, now accepting roses, which will be available this coming September. Please welcome to the podcast, Amanda Stanton. Did I do? Hi. We've got our live three people in the audience today. They're really enthusiastic. There are hype men, hype women.

Amanda and I already took half a shot of tequila, but also this is like my fourth podcast, so I'm already lit. Anyways, Amanda, thank you for being on the pod. Thanks for having me. We're wearing matching sweaters today. Tie-dye, revolve, obbs. They're like, yes, girl, yes. We're in Mexico, so naturally drinking tequila.

I met you for the first time last night, which is so weird. I know. How have we never met before? It's so weird. I don't know. I feel like I've met almost everybody except for you. I know. I feel like I know you.

I mean, Andy is a very good mutual friend. Yes. How did you guys meet? Just kidding. I was like, wait. I saw, was it you that posted that photo and you're like, when people ask how we met, we're like, um, yeah, long story. Funny story.

First of all, you're a hot mom. How are your girls, Kinsley, and Charlie? I'm obsessed with them, by the way. They're so cute. What is their character? They're a little alter egos. So it's Ella and Bella. Ella and Bella.

I'm Ella and I'm Bella. And they do this whole thing and it's so cute. It's so funny. It's the cutest. And the funny part too is that they'll just be in the back seat and like Kins has a phone. Yeah. So I won't even see these videos until like weeks later. I'll just be like, you know, stalking on Kinsley's phone to see what she has and I'll find him.

And I just die laughing. Like, yeah, they're hilarious. Yeah. Like, they're just really, really sweet, cute, funny girls. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They've got great personalities.

And then I wanted to talk to you about your line, Lonnie the label. Yes. How did you decide to start this brand? So I've wanted to start a clothing line for a long time. I've always been into fashion and clothes, especially when I had the girls. Like, my favorite thing ever was dressing them up and I love to match with them. I know it's kind of dorky, but I loved it. No, it's not.

It's cute. So it was something that I always wanted to do. And then it worked out and I had an opportunity to do it. So it's like hands down my favorite project that I've ever worked on. Yeah, and the girls get to help me with it too, which is really fun. Yeah. So they feel like it's their clothing line too. Wait, that's so cute. Are they into fashion?

Yeah, totally. Yeah, and it's funny because they're really picky with what they wear. So it works out because they design it. So then they're obsessed with it. They always want to wear it. But Kins, one day, she was coming with me. She had to leave summer camp early and she told everyone at camp. She's like, I have to go to work.

Oh, my gosh. And she like meant it. Like, I got to go to work. Yeah, she's like, I have to go to work. It was a fitting. I think it's really cool because like I remember I left my dog and some woman was like, why would you already leave your dog to go to work and blah, blah, blah? And I'm like, what? I'm like, well, when I have kids, I'm going to work too. And I think it's so important for these girls to look up to you and see you, you know, like doing your thing and like living your best life working and doing what you got to do and like also being a mom. I think it's so important. Yeah. I mean, I think I get a lot of judgment for that too. Like people just don't get it. But with what I do, like yeah, there's times where I have to. leave them but there's also times where I'm not really doing anything and I can stay home with them for a week or two straight or I get to travel with them or you know it's just a different lifestyle I guess

so well of course people don't understand that but the the uh people's favorite way to not understand is to troll exactly and so when they don't understand it it's like for some reason it's obviously jealousy and people wish that they could do those kinds of things that's the only reason but I'm like I mean we we all experienced trolling but I was telling you this last night I'm like you get it so bad is it because you're just so hot and sweet and nice with like two beautiful healthy children and you get to work and like is that is that what it is like honestly i think okay so the trolling's but i feel like everybody gets it to some extent but when you're a mom it's just so much worse and then you know there's other people that are moms that that aren't instagram but a lot of them

are married and have a different life than me like i've been a single mom for six years now so regardless like they see their dad like i'm not with them all the time and So it's like, I can't constantly explain the situation, like, once a week to everybody. No. But I just, I feel like it just makes it so bad. Everyone is, yeah. Well, that's the thing, too, is that nobody's following their dad, right? It's not like they see that side.

So they just have all these questions and judgments when you're like, well, of course, because you don't watch his stories with all of them, you know? Exactly. People don't see that side of it. Anyways. So that's so cute that they get to be involved in the process with this line. That's so adorable. It's really cute.

And it's probably like a little bonding thing for you guys. It is. And what was the inspiration behind it? So originally it just started off as a dress line. So we were just kind of testing it out. We came out with 10 dresses. And then I didn't want it to be like strictly a mommy and me line. So we made three of the dresses in kid sizes just to, I wanted it to be like kind of mommy and me line, but not just for moms.

Right. But I just wanted like cute flattering dresses. Everyone felt good in. They're all really versatile. You can wear them with sneakers. You can wear them with heels. Something that was just fun and versatile. And then the first couple drops went really well.

So now we added on we're doing body suits and skirts and tops and all of that. And so hopefully we'll be able to do swim next year too. Oh, that's so cute. Yeah, that would be perfect. And you're also coming out with your first book in September called Now Accepting Roses, which talks about some of the lessons you learn from your time on The Bachelor. So what can we expect from reading the book? Give us the juicy 411.

Is that what they said? What is it from Mean Girl? The mom is like... The 401. Yeah. The 401. So when I wrote it, honestly, I didn't want it to be like a book bashing anybody. But, I mean, it didn't turn into that.

But, you know, when I was reading it back recently, because I just got the copy back and I was reading it. And it's a lot juicier than I remember because I think I was just like, it was like my journal. You know what I mean? You also don't want to like hide and you want people to read it and relate and understand and know. That's why you write it. Yeah. And so, yeah. Okay, keep going.

But I feel like it could have been a lot juicier if I wanted to be, like, the kind of person I am, I'm like always very careful. And everyone's always like, you should say more, but I just, I can't. I don't really. That's why I'm feeding you tequila for this podcast because you're going to. It's going to be a good one. But yeah, when I was reading it back, I was like, oh, this is actually a lot juicier than I thought. But I think it was just because it was kind of my journal for a while. And I just was pouring my heart out into it.

And then reading it back, I was like, oh, did you journal during the breakups and during the shows? And no, you just all had it in the. Memory Bank? Yeah. Yeah. Well, and I've been writing it for a long time. So it's been a process for like two and a half years. Holy.

Yeah. So it wasn't like I just now started writing it because I would forget things, you know. That's so interesting. So do you go back and to the beginning of it and be like, holy crap, I can't believe that's where it all started? Yeah. And like you kind of can heal and have closer just from your own thoughts. Exactly.

Yeah. Yeah. It's been really cool. So it was fun. I'm excited for it to come out in September. A little nervous. Well, yeah. Just because it's, it's kind of personal, you know.

So I'm like, oh, this is going out to everybody. I don't really think I thought it through when I was writing it. It was more for me. And I'm like, oh, everyone's going to be able to read this. Yeah, but that's great. Yeah, I'm excited, but a little nervous. Well, anything you do that makes you vulnerable and it's like putting something out there will make you nervous.

Like, were you nervous starting your line? Because you just don't know, like, what people are going to take, what people are going to think of it, what, you know, how people are going to take to it. The day before my line launched, I was so nervous. So I was like, no one's going to buy anything. Oh, gosh. Do you ever feel like that too? Yeah, of course.

I do. And then I feel like it's good to be that way. Like you don't, yeah. I feel like it's good to have those expectations for yourself and be like a little hard on yourself. Of course. Then I ended up doing really well. So then you're like pleasantly surprised, you know?

I'd rather be that way than it be the other way around. So I'm excited to read this. I'm like maybe your book part two can be even juicier. Yeah. Well, I brought it with me. So I'll give you a copy. Really? You can read it at the pool.

Yeah. Okay. I'm so excited. That's awesome. I know. I'm like, what is like one of the juiciest stories? You don't have to tell me. at all but just like a little to be honest i think probably the juiciest stuff is like

pretty juicy stuff is like my life before i went on the show oh what tell me i think there's a lot of things that people didn't know about me what is what was that it was just like my life with the girl's dad and kind of how it became a single mom and all of that which is stuff that i don't really think a lot of people know right um because everyone really talked about it exactly and everyone knows what's happened since then you know they watched me on the show and they kind of know the gist of what happened there but no one really knows all that stuff. So I think that would be, I think that's going to be pretty interesting.

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for, so I had my oldest daughter, Kinsley. And then right when Charlie was born, me and her dad split up. Okay. So she was a newborn when we split up. Really? Yeah. So I was a same single mom literally with like a two month old and a one and a half year old. Yeah. So hard. And I hadn't even gone on a date. Like my first date was with Ben on the show. Really? My very first date. My mom forced me to go on the show. No way. I didn't want to do it. I was rooting so hard for you to be the bachelorette. Oh, thanks. Yeah. After I was like, that's, that's the bachelor we deserve. You reminded me of just like the sweet, like an Emily Maynard type of bachelor, like just sweet. Yeah. I don't, not, you're not southern, but just like sweet. Where are you from originally?

California. Oh, you are? Yeah. People never think. I'm from there, though. People always think I'm from Texas or something. Really? I don't know why. I feel like California, a lot of people aren't usually, like people usually move to California. So when you're actually from there, you're like, oh, no way. It's like Nashville. There's no, everybody's like a implant from somewhere else. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So you, oh my gosh, two months with a, you had a two month baby when you became a single parent. Yeah. Do you feel like having her helped you through that or was that harder? I think for a short period of time, it was hard.

You know what? I feel like it's both actually. Like it helped me, but it was also really hard. And you, I mean, if you read my book, you'll read about it. But it was like the second that we split up, like, he went and lived this very different lifestyle than I lived. Like, I was like literally breastfeeding a two month old. And I had a one and a half year old. And he was like off in Vegas with his friends. Like, yeah. So it was pretty crazy. So that's why my mom was like, okay, I'm signing you up for The Bachelor. And she just like emailed some photos of me in. And she was like, they're not going to call. And they ended up calling. And they ended up calling. And worked out so that's crazy yeah so when they called you was that for ben season they were like we want you for this because sometimes people get calls like i was supposed to be on mom pablo season or like i get you know the other people and they wait and hold um keep you on file so they called you right for ben's season yeah so it was like in may and pretty much the first time i went in they kind of told me like okay make sure that you have someone to watch your kids in september so it was pretty soon on like for the first day that i went in for an interview wow you must have been so nervous i was terrified yeah yeah was it a good experience for you though yeah I had a really good experience I feel

like it was good for me to do that like I needed that even though it didn't work out yeah obviously with Ben but it was like you but it works out in other ways exactly it was just good for me I think I really needed it at the time yeah yeah that's so great like you've done the stay-at-home mom thing and then not open doors for you to have like these businesses and and create other things that you can do with your daughters yeah that's awesome yeah it's perfect I love that and you've been really open which I love I mean I don't love that you struggle but I love that you're open about struggling with anxiety and just dealing with attention that comes from being a public figure. So how do you personally handle your anxiety?

Because for me, I try many different things, but we're all different and everybody has different levels of anxiety and obviously, you know, having two little girls probably have different anxiety than I do. But how do you personally deal with it? So you have really bad anxiety too? Yeah. Yeah. You know what I always say that?

I never knew what anxiety was when I was little and everything. I just thought I was, I thought I was sick. Really? I thought something was wrong with me, like a sickness. And because nobody really knew what anxiety was back in my day. And, like, I just really, actually just probably in the last three years realized what it was. So mine like comes and goes, but when it comes, it's really bad. So I'll go through phases.

And I don't know if you're like this too, but like you wake up one day and you're like, it's happening. Like you just feel it. It was me two days ago. Really? Yes. It's terrible. So it happened to me a couple days ago when I was in New York. So I was there for a while.

And it always happens, like, a lot of times when I'm traveling or when I'm away from my kids for a certain amount of time and it's so bad. But it sounds so cheesy, but I think meditating really helps. No, that's one of my main things I do. I have to put my phone away and just, like, meditate for an hour. And then another thing that really helps is just talking about it to other people. I think when you hold it and you don't talk about it, it makes it so much harder. And it's such an easy thing, but I swear talking about it is the thing that's helped me the most. Yeah, I'm the same way.

to not admit that I had anxiety. I did and I just like kept it all in. And then the day that I was like, okay, I have anxiety and it's happening right now, I was like even just saying that made me feel so much better because so many other people have it and can relate and you can, you know, you feel like you're not alone. You can share tips in what helps you. Even just labeling it for me to know it was there was something for it, to call it anxiety helped me.

I was like, oh, okay, I'm not alone. Totally. Like just knowing that there was a word for it helped me. Yeah, no, meditating for me has been, do you use the calm app or? Yeah, I love that app. Okay, me too. I love the calm app. I do the same thing.

I am in Nashville and I have a lot of friends in the songwriting circle and even just like going to a voice lesson or doing some sort of songwriting for me has helped tremendously. Did you write a lot? Like to remember, like for your book, for example, like if now probably more than ever now that it's out, you're probably like, oh, I should write things down now. Do you find writing out your feelings helps? Yeah, 100%. But see, I what I need to change?

is that for me writing is like I tape it out in my phone and notes. Yeah. Instead of like actually writing it down. So I think I need to start writing it down because I swear being on your phone makes your anxiety so much worse. Well, that was what I was going to also say to you with, you know, you already have this anxiety from being away from your girls.

And then you have these random strangers and you have over a million followers. So you have all these opinions on telling you, which probably makes the anxiety so much worse because it's already something you're feeling upset about. Exactly. No, yeah. That's the thing. It's like it's something that I'm already bummed about and I'm not happy about and then I have all these people on social media that are like why are you they think it's

like a choice for me or that I want to be away and it's it's hard but I don't let it bother me as much anymore just it's been happening for so long like it doesn't affect me a way that it used to but I think we talked about it last night there's always like that one comment that you're like oh I don't care what these people are saying and then they say the one thing that you're just like cuts to your core and you're like and then you just blow up yeah you're like no no I totally get that there's always something because then it makes you believe in your insecurities you're like, well, if other strangers are noticing this one thing that really bugs me, it must be true.

Totally. And I feel like they know what to say to get to you some of the time. Well, yeah, and it's usually like Susan 8, 9, 36, 7,4. With no profile photo. No profile photo. You clearly made this account to get that one thing because I've already blocked you on another. Exactly. Yeah.

Yeah. That's, I know. I know the Susan's all too well. I called them, I did used to call them Karen's, but then I met a really great Karen who called me out for calling them Karen. And so any nice Susan's out there, I'm going to hear it from them now, too. But you know what I mean? I named my period Karen because she's a little bitch.

Really? No, actually, I'm dying, though, because one of the meet Instagrams, they, like, messages me all the time, DMs me comments is Karen. Of course. It's Karen. I'm not surprised. Yeah, but I actually don't think this one's fake. I think she is like an actual Karen. She's an actual Karen.

She's an actual Karen. She's an actual Karen's. No, I saw the funniest meme. People are tagging me in it all the time because I call my period Karen. and it was like when you fought all the karens and you have to deal with the mega karen have you seen oh my gosh and it's like this like like this lady just looks like a pure karen and she's got like she's got like a bob but it's like bounced up to here with like bangs and she just looks like such a karen and i was like she would that is a mega karen

and then i switched my name to of my period to mega karen like when she's just light lightly flowing she's karen but when she's full blown there she's a mega karen God, I'm gross I'm so gross And so you've had I mean to add to the anxiety You've had a couple of public splits Which I mean I know the public split all too well

Yeah And one not too long ago So where is your head now with dating? Are you dating again? I'm dating Nothing yeah Like nothing serious But just you know

Casually dating Yeah because you can't just I like that you were really good about this breakup, by the way. Thanks. Yeah. You were really like level-headed about it and you're like, you know what? Like, it was a surprise, but I mean, I was ghosted after a year. That's so crazy. Yeah. And I was like, you know what? I am not going to go crazy. Like, it is what it is. But that, I mean, seeing it coming is one thing, being ghosted after a year when your little girls are invested in your relationship, I want to punch them right in the day. I honestly, like,

looking back and I said this before, I was very surprised and I was, like I said, he completely ghosted me. But looking back, I think it kind of makes sense because he, he got really upset. I said this and I will clarify this time. I don't really, he doesn't really know what he wants or like what he's doing. You know what I mean? He doesn't want kids. He doesn't know if he wants kids. He doesn't even know if he wants to get married. There were so many things where I'm like, I'm fine taking things slow. Like, I don't need to get engaged by the end of the year. Like, I don't want another baby tomorrow. Right. But I at least want to know what someone wants eventually otherwise you're wasting your time you know or like so it was like that and I think

I wasn't putting pressure on anything happening soon but I was just kind of like hey like I need to kind of know where this is going right and I think that stressed him out fine fair that can stress you out but you don't go somebody from that like why not have a simple conversation about it still to this day we have not had a conversation what yeah it's I don't understand doesn't you feel kind of silly like Well, and it's not some, it's kind of, like, if that's where you're at and it's a year, like, you can kind of understand, okay, if you don't want those things. But why just disappear? Why do that to you? Why do that to the girls who? He clearly cared about them. Yeah. So I said to him finally, I was like, you know what? Because we never had a conversation about it. So I told him, this was kind of recently. I was like, if you still want to talk to me, I'll give you a chance. Like, there's no chance of us ever getting back together. I would never trust anyone like that. I was like, but I do want to give him a chance to like actually sit down and have a conversation with me. Because after a year, it's like, I didn't want him to go out like that. You know what I mean? No.

And how do you have closure from that? Like sometimes you can just get closure from yourself or knowing that that person's out of your life or you can figure it out. But in that kind of situation, I would need closure. So for a while I did. And then it just wasn't happening. So I just got over it. And it was, it's really sad to say it. But it was actually the easiest breakup of ever gone through.

I think, because you know how this is. You can relate. When you're in a relationship and you have all these plans or like you have this idea of what your future is going to be like. Like you're like, we're going to get married. we have all these plans and when you break up yeah you're sad about the person that you're breaking up with but you're also more sad that all the plans that you had right are not happening anymore yeah with bobby we never had plans like he never knew what he wanted so it was almost the easiest breakup ever because i never had these ideas of like oh we're going to get married

and we're going to have another baby and we're going to live here like we never had plans so when we broke up i was like it just kind of felt like i was losing a friend that's i mean sad yes but that's actually really interesting to hear you say that because I think that was part of the hardest part for me and going through the breakup was I like picked out baby names with Sean and like I was so like I picked out my wedding dress and I had all these plans and we bought a house and I was just like in my head I was like this is my person yeah and then knowing that he didn't feel the same way like he didn't see all those things it was so hard for me to accept that I would like turn to I don't even know who I was for the last. like six months of the relationship because I just seemed like a desperate depressed Debbie I was just I was just like why doesn't this person like I just I was like why doesn't this person want the same things as me like he says he does but he doesn't yeah and so that would that would sadly make it easier if you just didn't ever have those conversations but that's sad in its own way too because you didn't have those conversations exactly so it was frustrating like anytime

it was like I wanted to talk about something that wasn't surface level it was like I don't to talk about this. Right. So eventually our relationship just was kind of surface level and it was just kind of easy to get over. And he hasn't tried to reach out or anything? He's texted me a few times like here and there. Like apologizing? No. Never got. Yeah. What is he like? How's it going? Yeah. Kind of. What the hell? Okay. But it was so my last breakup before that was really hard because it was

similar to you. Like I thought we were going to get married and it was like straight off the show. We were engaged. It was like, oh, this is it for me. So then when we broke up, I was like, oh, my God, now I'm starting over and, you know. But with him, it was kind of easy. It wasn't hard for me to, like, move on from it. It wasn't hard for me to start dating again. Yeah.

Okay, great. Yeah. I'm glad for you for that. Thanks. Yeah. It's unlike me. So I'm kind of shocked by it, to be honest. Okay.

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I kind of like someone right now. Oh, yeah. It's too early to say, but. Yeah, I know, I won't. I mean, drink that tequila behind you. Then we'll talk. No, we should do the tequila because I need you to confess to me. Okay, let's do it.

Okay. This is dangerous. Yeah. Tequila is, no, it's never dangerous. Famous last words. Okay, cheers. Cheers. Tequila just makes me really smiley.

Okay, it makes me so smiling. Like, I can't stop smiling. We're, like, talking about, like, anxiety and, like, ex-boyfriends are like, smiling. I know. It was heartbreaking. It's so hard. I literally can't stop.

I thought it was just me, but it's the tequila. Okay, fair, fair. It's a combination. Do you know you have to confess to me? what what do you mean what do I confess anything okay anything like like everybody on my podcast always has to confess something you you tell me yours first yeah it happened yesterday okay um okay so i i've not met some people that are here but we're we're with revolve we're with this influencer trip we're in mexico and everybody here is like so good looking and put together

and like smells like angels like everybody just smells good it's the weirdest thing Anyways, and so yesterday I'm in my room, and I'm by myself, Cleo went down by the pool, and I'm like, oh, I'm just going to toot up a storm in here because I'm alone, and this is my time to get it out, and I just, like, wasn't feeling the greatest. And all of a sudden, I'm, like, laying there, and I was like, who, hope Cleo doesn't come back anytime soon. And I'm, like, not even shy. Like, if Cleo did come back, I wouldn't really care. But all of a sudden, somebody, like, bursts into the door, what bursts in through the door? Yeah. Burst through the door.

Cleo, you don't correct me. You don't know what I'm saying? Cleo said to me today, we're going to go waltz to the ball tonight. And I was like, that's not the saying. That's not how it goes. Laws to the ball. Whatever is this girl comes to the door. And she's like, do you have a phone in here?

And she looks around and I look and it's Delo. Yeah. Danielle Lombard? Yeah. And I was like, oh, my God. And she was like, oh, hey. And I was like, oh, shit. And she was like, it's the phone in here.

And I'm like, I know you smell my teeth. toots right now there's no way like you know when somebody farts on an airplane and everybody like pretends it's not happening and you're just like still having conversation with your neighbor and you're like we've all smell it but we're not going to say anything that was D-Lo with me yesterday and she was like no but I should now maybe I told her last night I don't remember but she and she was like hey I pose her here and she's like nice to meet you she like went in for a hug and I was like god damn just get out and I was so embarrassed but like if I'd met her before I could have just been

like yeah tuted sorry but I like didn't know her and she's like this beautiful angel walking into the room just smelling like peaches and I'm like I'm keel and bristown yeah and I also look like hell like I hadn't I was not put and she was in this cute little sporty outfit full hair and makeup like her photographer was probably like coming in with her to get the shot and here I am just smelling like toots looking like a bag of shit cool anyways that's my confession that's so funny yeah you have to you have to tell her now I will tell her and ask her be like honestly did you smell it yeah I will I am really

curious i'm like you can you couldn't not yeah yeah um gross okay you got it well it's okay it's kind of a confession for me but it's more of like a confession about a guy that i recently dated perfect um i dated a guy like with a foot fetish no yeah and so what yeah is that how he like oh my gosh are you on wiki feet no i i hope not i'm i know you are i probably am i probably am I'm sorry, this is weird. So, like, when I would travel and stuff without him, like, instead of being like, hey, like, send a, send nudes or whatever, he'd be, like, send a photo of your feet. Shut up. Yeah.

And you did? Yeah, I mean, you just. Oh! At first I thought it was weird, but, like, you know, when you're, you know, when you're with someone, you're going to do it, like, for them. Yeah, of that's what's going to get a guy going. I will happily send, I will happily send a picture of my foot over my naked body. Yeah. Okay, same.

That's why I was like, this is kind of ideal. Yeah. Because I'm just, like, in the bathroom, like, just taking a foot on my foot on my foot. there you go and you what yeah let's your feet they're really cute oh you do oh wow you have great feet yeah I mean I'm I'm kind of turned on right now that's like what I'm gonna post for the picture of this podcast to promote it just a picture of your foot what and he was like oh baby yeah yeah he was like into it it was like yeah he had a foot fetish I wonder what he'd be like if your feet were terrible like would he still be into it he he told me that he cannot date a girl

that doesn't have cute feet Or portrait. Oh, yeah, portrait mode. No, we'll get it outside. Yeah, we'll get better lighting. Yeah, we need better lighting for this. No, yeah, he said that he was, like, kind of hanging out with a girl before, and then he saw her feet, and he couldn't do it. Stop.

Yeah. Oh, so he is a foot fetish, but they have to be nice feet. Nice feet. It's not just any feet. I'm looking. Amanda Stanton's feet. Wiki feet. You're on there.

No, I'm not. Yeah, you are. You're lying. No, I'm not kidding. Did he leak my feet picks? No, I'm serious. This is a thing. Wiki feet you guys I'm on it too and you know what I had a really unfortunate foot like back in the day I don't know what happened like I got like oh this is another confession this is sick I had like fungus from like a disgusting nail salon and like lost half my nail and that's how I ended up on wiki feet wait I want to see this I'm serious but look it okay how cute are you in this photo by the way what like in your little PJs I've never seen that photo in my entire life and it

What am I wearing? I was wearing, like, pajamas out in public. Is this recently? I have, I mean, that's kind of a most recent, like, a more recent outfit, so where was that? Wait, that's crazy. You've never seen that? I've never seen that photo in my whole life. I'm getting in my car. Wait, what am I doing?

Let me see that. You're in cherry pajamas with flip-flops and you're hearing a cute little one. You look adorable. I look homeless. No, you look adorable. Those are the cute, that's the cutest little sweatsuit. You've never seen that photo? I've never seen this, and I don't even know.

Oh, my God, you're so relevant. I don't get Pavarazzi photos. I've never seen that. I'm wearing a backpack. So this was after Coachella because they got that backpack at Coachella. Wait, that's so recent. Yeah. Good for you.

That's how I look most days. Yeah, but I'm so into that. It's so funny because you, you're so cute. Like, if I were you, that's what I would try and look like all the time. Like, just so casual cute. You're like still hot. It's a little extreme. Okay.

I am extreme, so that makes sense. But yeah, you're on WikiFeet. Did you see my Wiki feet? is that you guys are all Googling over there are you really it's like nasty yours are nasty yeah I have decent feet no you have great feet except for you know I have really long toes let me see my friend my best friend from home she calls my toes finger toes no no no I have long toes yeah we both have long toes yeah my okay look at this wiki feet this is turning into a podcast all about feet I hope the guy that you are seeing and listens to this one he's just

It's so turned on right now. Ew, look at this. My poor thing. Ew. Okay, look. Ew, those are my feet on wiki feet. They don't look bad. I guess it's fine, but it was a tough time.

It was a tough time for my feet. Oh, my gosh. This is so, yeah, isn't that weird that this is a thing? That's so weird. I've never even heard of wiki feet. Well, that's a great confession because that's weird. Yeah. And I love that you were into it.

You're like, okay, here's my foot. Well, I wasn't. At first I thought it was really weird, but then, like, you know, when you're with someone you're like if this makes you happy then whatever it's like send you a photo of my foot it's fine so yeah did you hang out with him in person did he like need to see your feet when you're in person yeah it was like thing but it was it was kind of nice because like he would like massage my feet all the time you know what this is starting to be like i'm i need a guy with a footman i'm like jason can you get into that is that something we can do or it's like really

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and then we're going to answer some questions from listeners. But, so the game, we're going to play two games. One is called the last. So you have to be honest. You have to be honest. Okay. Tell me the last text message you sent. Let's see.

I said so cute to. Oh. Boring. Of my kids. Okay. I thought you're going to be like, I sent a picture of my foot to this guy. No. Okay.

The last embarrassing. moment you had. I'm like trying to get another confession out of you. Oh, gosh. Very sneaky, Caitlin. Do you want to come back? Yeah, come back. Okay.

The last weird DM you got. Well, this is right back to the feet. There we go. Yesterday, I posted a photo of my nails, which I never do. And I posted it on my story. A guy was like, you should post more photos of your feet and with like the flame emojis. So I get those a lot.

Yeah, people, no, this is a thing. it's a big thing yeah i i get a lot of dms asking for pictures of my toes yeah yeah people like offer money for it have you never had that no but i remember elena davies telling me that she like actually sold her picture of her foot once for money i'm like how much would it go for like how much do you think i could sell a picture of my foot for yeah i like are we talking thousands in that case i'm starting a business yeah because because i because i was Okay. It's fine.

You know, I could really get me out of a couple jams. That's crazy. Yeah. Okay, fine. The last time you were hung over. Um, it wasn't today? I wasn't hung over today. Yeah, it was like last week in the Hamptons.

Oh, I've never been to the Hamptons. I need to go. Oh, my God, it's so fun. I feel like you are the Hamptons. Really? Yeah. I've only been twice. Oh, I just.

I feel like you, like, I don't know. You're so put together. Really? Yeah. Yeah. I don't feel like I am. Well, you are. The last cheat meal you had.

Are you a healthy eater? No. Oh. Mm-mm. I just had a cassidia, like an hour ago. Yeah. Me too. Yeah.

So you just, you, you don't. Everything. Really? Yeah. What's your favorite thing to eat? Burger and fries. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Are you a sauce guy? Do you like dipping? Love sauce. Yeah. What's your favorite condom? Chick-filet sauce. Oh, yeah. The best.

best. The Polynesian? I've never had the Polynesian. But I just a regular Chick-fil-A, the yellow one. Yeah. Oh my God. I can eat it plain. I'm obsessed with it. I know with a spoon. What is the oh, the zesty onion ring sauce from Burger King? I don't think I had that, no. I need to just like go try all the different sauces. It's life-changing. The last big

purchase you made? Um, I bought a new pair of Valentino sandals. How much were they? Like, do I have to say? I'm just curious. A lot. Too much for a pair of sandals. Really? Yeah. That's so funny to me, because I'm like, can't you just reach out to them and get them to send you a pair?

I don't think so. I don't think I'm not cool. I don't think Valentino's going to send me anything. I like, don't even, I'm like, who's Valentino? I don't even know. Like, excuse me, I was on The Bachelor. Can you send me a pair of sandals? Wait, is that, are they like a big deal?

I think, I mean, it's like, it's like a designer. Is that like, what's the one with the red bottoms? Those are Christian Lubiton. Oh. Yeah. Is that different from Louis Vuitton? Yes. I don't know anything.

Okay. The last revolve event you went to? Well, besides this one, Vegas. Oh, Vegas. Yeah. Was that fun? It was, I had too much fun. Yeah.

Yeah. Oh, my gosh. That's amazing. Okay. That was my game. Did you like it? It was fun. I liked it.

That was my game. Did you like it? It was easy. Okay. Now, the other game we're going to play is called the hypothetical. Okay. Out of this world game. Got it.

Are you ready? If you could have any super, power what would it be to fly really i would never want to fly really yeah my god i feel like it'd be the best yeah just fly wherever you want i think i'm just scared of birds so if i was out there with them i'd be scared it's a little scary yeah um if you had the chance to talk to any person who's no longer alive who would you talk to my grandma oh yeah me too actually now that you say that my grandma and Kurt Cobain. If you had the ability to travel back in time, where would you go?

I think I'd want to just go back and be a kid again. Yeah. You know? I feel like it's the best. But I kind of get to be a kid again when you have kids. Yeah, you do. Because you get to do everything all over again. Totally.

What's your favorite thing to do with the kids? I mean, we're like big homebodies. We like to stay home. We have dance parties in my house every day. Amazing. Yeah, it's fun. But like, it's just fun. Like I get to go trick-or-treating again.

And I get excited to do that kind of stuff or like Santa's coming. I was going to say Christmas must be so fun with kids. Yeah, it's like magical. Oh, I love that. Okay, if you had the ability to see 10 years into your future, what would it look like? I don't know. This is off topic and this is where I say I talk too much. But I recently talked to a psychic.

Yeah. Tell me everything. And I, okay, so I didn't believe it. So I was like, I don't think this is real. But you know what? I'm going to talk. My friend was like, you have to talk to this lady. Like, she's crazy.

she's always right like she knows everything and it was right when i was going through breakup i was like you know what i'm just going to try it and you you don't meet with her in person you just talk to her on the phone so i call her and i'm sitting in the car and she was asking me like she reads on different people in your life so she was reading charlie and she's like i see charlie like she's having a stomach ache and she's had a lot of stomach aches lately and she goes it's because she ate too many bananas like i see her like she has bananas in her stomach and i was like that is so weird we just go back from hawaii the day before and she was eating so many bananas And if she were to have said that about Kins, Kins doesn't like bananas.

Wait, that's so weird. And that's not like she can Google that about you or like, that's crazy. Exactly. It was so weird. And then she told me, like, this guy that I went on one date with and I thought I was really into him, she's like, no, you're going to lose interest in a few weeks. And I was like, there's no way. I'm so into him a couple weeks later, not into it anymore.

But I will say, like, I would never want to know the future. Yeah. Because it bums you out. Like, if you don't tell you what you want to hear. that's I ask people on my podcast sometimes if you had an envelope and in the envelope was the day that you would die would you want to open it no me either no would you guys no everybody know okay Jason said yes really yeah I would not he's like well then you could live and I was like no I wouldn't I be terrified I'd be depressed unless it was like 101 you will die on your birthday and your sleep like then I'd be like cool yeah if it was anything other than that I'd be like holy shit Yeah. No, it was awful. And then like after it kind of gave me anxiety and I was just like, I'm never doing that again. Because it was definitely real. Can I have her info? I'll send you her. Yeah, I'll give you her phone number. Because I really want to do it. And she didn't like know who you were. Yeah. That's, I mean, you should call her while we're here because I want to. Not like right. Not not right the second. But I mean like we're in Mexico. Okay. Yeah. I wonder if she would be on my podcast. Oh, she would. I bet you she would. I wonder if I could do. Her name's Carrie. Whoa, that would be so cool. Get her to call in for a podcast. What's her? name? Carrie. Carrie.

Yeah. What's up, Carrie? She's probably listening. And after I did it, I was like, I'm never doing this again because I didn't like it. And then a few weeks later, I was like, kind of want to call Carrie again. Yeah, because you're like, wait, what's happening? Yeah. Well, that's so cool.

Yeah. So would you want to know what you're in 10 years, what it looks like? No. I'd just rather, like, take it day by day and see what happens. I like that. Yeah. I like that a lot. Okay.

If you had the chance to read minds, would you take it? No. Me either. My feelings would get hurt. Totally. I would be way too sensitive. I would be way too sensitive. Like even if somebody was like, oh, her hair doesn't look the greatest today.

I'd be like, I cry. If you were invisible for 24 hours, what would you do? Probably go spy on some people. Yeah. Like who? Probably like my exes. Yeah. Why do we always want to smile on her exes?

I would too. It's so terrible. I only like to, like, I need a certain amount of time to want to creep exes though. like I have not looked at Sean's picture profile like nothing I just don't even go there and I've always been one to like with all exes I just if they're out I just you know I don't do any creeping I don't want to look at their Instagram like nothing but then after a certain amount of time when I'm like once you're over it totally over it like not like I'm still hung up on my exes or anything but like once I'm like don't even give a shit then you can do it I love

going back and looking I'm like what's he doing yeah I should have him on the podcast Hey wait I'm the same way Imagine having an ex on the podcast Like one of my exes And if you did like a podcast With your ex or if I did one with my ex But like a past one

Like if I had Justin Keller Shout out to Justin No he doesn't listen But Like if I had him on it It would be so interesting I'm still like really good friends With his parents

Which is weird But yeah Who do you want to interview of your exes I feel like I would be like so rude to them Like not rude but I would be like I don't know if I'd be able to do it I feel like I feel like Robbie would be a funny one Just because I wouldn't mess with them

Yeah can we talk about that? Yeah Um okay what I'm just kidding We can all say that about all of our exes like what Okay so tell me That was that you guys met on Paradise Yeah

Was he a douche on the show or no Okay so before I went on Paradise. I had seen him around a few times and like I knew who he was and I was like that guy's the biggest douchebag in the entire world. Like there's no way I would ever eat that guy. And one of my, someone I was kind of friends with this girl, Sarah, she was going on and she was really interested in him and I remember I was like talking her out of it. I was like, you cannot do that. Like he is no. And then somehow it ended up happening. But like, Paradise is weird because you're isolated from the world and he was really sweet to me in Paradise. So I was like, okay, it ended up kind of working out. I never really, I don't know if you watched that season. You kind of tell I wasn't fully in it. Like I didn't, you could tell. You didn't see. Yeah.

Like he tried to kiss me how many times and I was like, no. You're like now. But then when we got home, he was right back to like the same. Yeah. So I wouldn't even say, I wouldn't even consider him an ex. But like technically, I guess a little. I get what you mean. Yeah.

On that note, some people had some questions for you. This was my favorite. Somebody said, please Caitlin, have a good podcast with Amanda. Let her talk and ask her a good question. oh that's literally what somebody said to me in my dms i'm like okay thanks k e bit no i'm like calling her oh cabesanna cabesanita thanks oh that's noted okay do you think i let you talk you did yeah we were we talking about that last night how we both talk over people all the time yes i was like this is going to be a great podcast okay um where is it i really oh this one no no not that one

Okay, this is from Courtney Turnel. She said, if Amanda had to go on a date with someone from the batch family, who would it be and why? I honestly can't think of one person. Come on. I'm not kidding. Who can you see me going on a date with? Okay, let me think about this. Well, you're not watching the season.

And I feel like all the guys are too young now. You know, they're all like 24. How old is Pilot Pete? I think he's young, too. Yeah. They are young. They're also young. And then, like, I know too much about everybody.

That's true. That's true. Okay, wait. I could picture you going on a date with Nick. No. Oh, wait, did you guys date? No. Oh, okay, okay.

I picture you going on a date not being together. Okay. Yeah. No, still now. Okay. Yeah. Nick's one of my friends. I love Nick, but no. I think that's why I said it.

Yeah. Okay, wait, let me think of other people. Who was last season? Oh, Becca, I could see you going on a date with Blake. I met Blake's stage show. She's cute. Yeah. maybe not after the season of Paradise because I heard he goes through a little bit of hell.

That's what I mean. I just know too much about everybody. Totally. It ruins it. Okay. That makes sense. Yeah. So I don't think anyone.

If you had to. If I had to, um. Blake. Okay, Blake. Yeah. That's fine. Yeah. I love Blake.

I'm a little nervous for him, but I actually love him. Okay. Shade Durr says, if you and your beautiful girls could live anywhere in the world, where would it be and why? Um, This is, like, so cheesy, but I love where we live. We live in Laguna, and it's, like, home for us. I wouldn't, yeah. I don't think I would want to live anywhere else.

Really? Yeah. Can I come visit? Yeah. Okay. Anytime. Great. You're going to regret saying that.

Okay. This Rebecca. Ooh, I kind of like that. Rebecha? It's Rebecca, but she said Rebecca. Sassy. It's super sassy. How does Amanda handle being a single mom in working?

I feel like it must be really hard to take time for everything. And how do you deal with all the. roles she goes people can be so mean on instagram yeah it's true but i love that you said that you it doesn't really bother you anymore like there's going to be that one here and there but like overall you're it's not sad that you kind of got used to it like i feel the same way like you're just like numb to it just feel used to it um i would say it's hard to balance everything with like being a mom and working and like having to keep up with a million different things so i really try my best to balance everything in my life but a great job of balancing just from

following you on social media for the most part i think I think I do. I think I've kind of figured it out. But then I still go through phases where I don't. Yeah. And I think that's when my anxiety gets bad. Yeah. Is when like I go through a phase where I'm like, I'm not balancing everything the way that I want to be. Um, but yeah, I try my best. No, I think you do it great. I mean, even just from Instagram, I know like everything can seem great on Instagram, but I'm like, you seem like such a fun mom. Oh, thanks. Yeah. I love that they're involved in your business too. Yeah. This is my favorite question. Aradur 119 says

How in God's name did she ever tolerate Josh She seems like the absolute sweetest And he seems like a trash bag from hell I mean I don't need to be mean But he does seem like a trash bag from hell Oh my gosh That's I mean again When somebody asks like how did you tolerate that

Yeah Was he just again like Robbie be like different on TV and so okay Josh Josh was different than Robbie Josh I think has this image of who he wants to be and he says all the right things and I think he genuinely wants to be the person that he pretends to be yeah but he's not and people always are like how do you tolerate it I mean realistically I feel like we dated for two years we dated for six months holy shit that's it yeah that's it so I didn't really tolerate it for very long you're like actually I didn't I got to go.

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. That's crazy. Yeah, I'll just never forget. I feel like I don't even like giving him this attention sometimes because I'll never forget this one time. I knew this songwriter in Nashville and he like knows a bunch of singers and reality people and he was sent he sent me like a Snapchat once and he was with Josh in Nashville.

And he was like, yeah, say hi to Caitlin. And Josh was like, who? And he was like, Caitlin Bristow and Josh obviously knows who I am just from like, you know friends with Andy like all and he goes bris bristo and like looked in the camera like and i was like oh screw you and he knows he are i mean obviously is that how did you in reality how did you and Andy become friends after that like because that could be weird for some people but i feel like confident great badass women can come together through something like that yeah okay so the first time i met andy was like it was a couple years ago and the first time that we met

I remember I was in New York, and I always laugh about the first time that I met her, because I never met her in person before. And we were like, let's meet up. Like, I was in New York. She's like, let's just hang out, talk, like, grab a drink or whatever. So we were at this, have you ever been to Ph.D.? Dream, the rooftop bar? No.

So she's like, let's go here. It's this cool rooftop bar in New York. So I show up, and me and Lauren Bush and all were there, and we got there first. So we're just, like, waiting around the lobby. And you know how Andy is just, like, super, like, she's such, like, a New Yorker. She just comes, like, storming in, like, walks up to the, like reservation she's like I have a reservation for three under Andy I'm like staying there I'm like hi yeah yeah I'm here nice to meet you yeah it was so funny so the first time that we hung out it wasn't

awkward but obviously there was a little bit of like Josh talk right of course it's funny because now been there with her Nick yep I get it yeah yeah yeah but I mean we've been friends for like two years now and it's funny we really never talk about them anymore right we don't care yeah well that's yeah yeah exactly but it is funny to like bond over something like that and then become good friends out of it totally because you do have stuff in common yeah yeah we dated we were engaged the same guy right that's so funny only in the bachelor nation world right yeah um Ashley wait Ashley Vitt says um will your new book call out X's or bachelor nation people uh so I don't know if I want to use the like the term call out right but what I said you're naturally talk about them yeah so I talk about them and but what I what I keep saying is like there's nothing in there where I'm just bashing someone for no reason if it's something that I learned from or there's like a chapter where I talk about like spotting red flags and red flags that ignored and stuff like that i mean so yeah there's there's things in there okay i have a question then for for all the listeners out there how do you spot red flags like and when you spot them

was that a bird or was that somebody's mouth it was your i was like oh dear god there's a bird in here so scared so i'm like so terrified of birds uh sorry that really that really threw me for a loop there um but yeah like you know like some people see red flag and they ignore them. Like, how do you spot them and then, you know? Yeah. So I think, I mean, everyone's been there. You see a red flag, but you really like someone to make excuses for him.

Yes, all the time. Yeah. We've all done it. Yeah, everyone has. Yeah. But I don't know. I mean, I think you see things, especially as you get older. Like, you've been in relationships.

You have experience. Like, you can tell when someone's being shady or lying or is controlling. Like, you see these things now. I just think you can't ignore him. It's so interesting because I always say how Jason just has so many green flags. like he is just marriage material he really is like he's just the best but there was some girl sent me a DM not too long ago and goes I really hate to tell you this but Jason cheated on you in Buffalo at this white party event and I was like because I'm like yeah

okay first of all he would never cheat second of all he's with his mom like all his best friends and their wives I was supposed to be there I was sick and like okay then I I got all these DMs saying the same thing. And my mind went to like, wait, am I stupid? Is this actually happened? And I can, and then, so I'm talking to Jason about it. And he's laughing because he thinks it's funny. But I was like, okay, well, like, I'm getting scared. There's like five. He's like, and he looks to me like, no, you don't actually think I cheated on you, do you? And I was like, no, no, I don't. But they're like, why are all these people saying that? And then he goes, he's like, I'm going to call the place we're at. I'm going to get all the footage from the cameras. Like,

he's like, he's so, um, like, proactive with it. He's like, oh, I'm going. And I'm like, no, I don't do that. And then the last one I got, it was, I'll show you footage if you Venmo me this amount of money. And I'm like, oh, okay, you're a scammer. You're trying to. So anyways, we took action. We're like, hey, just saw your DMs. We've got all your guys' information.

We're actually going to go to like a lawyer about this. They all deleted their Instagram account. Stop. Yeah. That's so funny. I don't know why I just brought up this story. It's like so sad that people just like want to stir the pot. Like that's what I mean?

I'm like so confident in this relationship and then somebody can say one thing and I'm like that's my biggest fear in life and now you just triggered me and then Jason thought it was funny he was like ah yeah imagine cheated on you're like oh yeah anyways um is there anything else that we didn't talk about that you wanted to talk about I think we covered everything yeah okay now tell me where we can find everything with the um with the line and your book and your Instagram and all the things so my Instagram handle is at Amanda underscore Stanton with two ends, even though that's not, he's spelled my last name. Oh, I was like, is that two ends? So you were saying, like, I heard you all talking at the last podcast, how you... Couldn't find her? Yeah, so I DM'd the Amanda Stanton that has my, just my name on Instagram, and I was like, I'll give you $300. And she never responded.

She saw it, and she didn't answer. Yeah, so... You got up the price. I know. Let's start a GoFundMe page for you to get the Amanda Stanton page. Yeah. So anyways, yeah, so my name still spelled wrong. And then my clothing line is at Lonnie the Label, and it's www.

And that's L-A-N-I. L-A-N-I. And then my book comes out on September 3rd. Oh, my gosh. Are you going to have like a release party? I haven't planned anything. Yeah, but I'm doing a book signing, so I think I'll be out in New York that day. Yeah.

Cool. So it'll be fun. Wait, that's so fun. Okay, well, we'll have to do a part two after the book comes out and after I read it. For sure. And we can talk about it. Perfect. Because right now you want to tease it a little bit.

You don't want to give it all away. Exactly. Yeah, well, I've been smiling for 50 minutes straight, so. Let's go do more tequila. My cheeks are. Oh, I love it. Well, thank you so much for being on the pod and for being my new friend. Yay.

We bonded over tequila and hair extensions. Yeah, we didn't have to bond over any exes. That's so great. I know. Awesome. I am Caitlin Bristow. I'll see you next Tuesday. Thanks for listening to Offba Vine with Caitlin Briscoe.

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