Off The Vine with Kaitlyn Bristowe - Bachelor Commentator Dave Neal: Comedy, Content, & Confessions

Episode Date: June 6, 2023

The ultimate Bachelor fan & standup comedian Dave Neal is finally in Kaitlyn’s home studio and ready to talk everything Bachelor nation and beyond. KB and Dave get into it ALL, from what life looked like growing up and how he got into standup to the behind-the-scenes of creating Bachelor content and driving around with celebs and reality TV alum. His main goal on today’s pod: to get Kaitlyn into standup comedy… will he succeed? He reveals his worst standup fail ever, his own experiences with heartbreak, and social media rabbit holes he’s fallen wayyy down. Kaitlyn opens up to Dave about her experience on the show and her current relationships with the men from her seasons, including one recent story that hadn’t yet been told. Plus, why rock bottoms are beautiful, if reality TV is ever in the cards for KB, and why one of them should potentially run for president! Thank you to our sponsors! Check out these deals for the Vinos: LUME - As a special offer for my listeners, new customers GET $5 OFF a Lume Starter Pack with code VINE at LumeDeodorant.com.  MEATER - BBQ Season is coming up, so get dad grilling with the best meat thermometer out there and get it now at 20% off on MEATER.com.   THIRDLOVE - Visit ThirdLove.com to find your fit and shop their bestselling bra and get $15 off your first purchase! ANGI - Your home for everything home.  MASTERCLASS - You can get 15% off when you go to MasterClass.com/VINE.   See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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off the fine welcome to the shit show that's what we call it a beautiful little shit show around here because there's always something. Dogs are barking, people are coming in and out of the doors. I was just like, why did I do this at my house? Studio setups are the coolest thing in the world, though. I'm like in here, like, looking around. Because everyone's is different, but it's the same kind of vibe. It's true. Do you go to a studio or do you have, you do it in your house? I have my house. You do it in your house? We're trying to get a new place with a barn. I'm like really trying to make it so that one corner's like straight to camera at one corner's podcast studio and then a performance stage. So you can have like live shows and stuff. Yeah. That's kind of a good idea.

Yeah, that's next step. Oh, a barn? I want a barn. Yeah, I want a barn so bad. Oh, my God, are you going to get a horse? I don't. You're like, no, it's for a studio, Caitlin. I don't think I could handle a horse, but a dog is enough.

Well, thank you for drinking rosé with me today. Of course. I'm really doing it. Okay, I was so sick yesterday, and I was like, there's no way I'm drinking today. And then I felt better today. And I was like, well, I had an IV. And like, don't drink for me. No, I'm drinking for me.

I'm definitely drinking for me. Cheers. Cheers. Thank you. You're in Nashville. And you had a show. but Zanies? Yeah. I heard... I heard... They told me they couldn't get enough of your wine that you just completely sold it out and that you recommended we need more wine and they were like,

no, this will be enough in your audience. That did happen. That did happen. I know. I call everyone I think you know, the Vino's. And every time they just blow my mind, like something, I was at the Taylor Swift concert the other night and she said something so cute. She was like, I just always have this fear that you guys are all going to get sick of me. And that is my fear. And every time they just show up, I'm like, you're not sick of me yet. Yeah, what is that, though? What's that? Have you, like, labeled? Is it an imposter thing? Is it like, you're waiting to figure out that I'm not who you think I am? Maybe, or, this goes deep. I did a, like, really deep Kunalini yoga therapy the other day,

and she got to the root of 18-year-old Caitlin from when my parents divorced, and it was, like, a whole thing around I, felt shame in their divorce and I was like none of my other friends parents are getting divorce and this must mean something's wrong with my family and I went into like a shame spiral at that point in my life but I never really like healed it because I was like my friends are my parents are best friends and they still like do Sunday dinners and that's like a healthy divorce and that doesn't affect me but I buried it and now I think I feel like I'm people's like what they look up to and I feel like what if I bring them shame or what if I all of a sudden do something where they're like that doesn't seem like Caitlin anymore and I'm like

like they are just sick of me and I this this is really no because it's natural that the audience is going to project the best in you yeah yeah but there are days where I'm sick there are days when I'm snappy where I you know hate what I'm doing and I think I that's why I try so hard to show that kind of stuff on social media too because I don't want I don't want to be an unrealistic version of myself to other people and I want to I feel like I'm on this planet to like shine a light I'm not high right now, I swear God. But I feel like I'm supposed to shine some sort of light on imperfections instead of trying to be perfect. And like, even I'll have imposter syndrome.

I posted a bathing suit pick the other day. And I was like, oh my God, that's so not me. But then I was like, yes, it can be. I can be both. Yeah. You certainly can. Yeah. But yeah, so often we won't resolve our previous issues because we just move on to the next thing in life.

You're 18. You're becoming an adult. You're moving on. And then finally we get to an age because we're about the same. age where you start to like have some some space and you're like oh yeah i'm so over i'm so overbearing to my mom emotionally and i'm not and you like realize where you could have been better and realizing that things don't have to be perfect yeah all that do you go to therapy no i need to no you know you said it like i i've done the therapy hack where i just talk to people about their therapy that's actually

pretty genius that would save you a lot of my therapy is listening to you talk about your inner child work. Oh shit. That's literally the most therapy I've had is through you. That's when you're like starting to talk about like you're not your mom's this. I'm like, you preach, Dave. Basically what you're getting at is you know a lot more about me than sometimes I think I know myself. I have to. You're your research. I've done it's so creepy. I feel when I meet people I'm like, I know a lot about you. Because I mean, yeah, you're, I don't just say this. You, you're, you're, unapologetically authentic and so many people try to

be the opposite of that that they just want to please everybody and do all especially you know they're on a show where people are going to scrutinize you for every move you make and you probably have to apologize more than a lot of people. Not that not you specifically but when you're authentic everyone's not going to vibe with that

but when you keep that like you said you want to be someone who like spreads love when you keep on that path people's energy will shift to rise to you in a way. I I appreciate you saying that because that's something I think I want to see happen because I feel so proud of this community that I've built. And then on top of the community, they've built their own community of people. And I just always want people to kind of like grow with me and fall with me and fail and like see my ups and downs, but then still be supportive.

And you know what I mean? Like I never want people to just turn on me and be like, you're canceled. But you know what must be tough for someone in your position is you're allowed to feel your feelings, but an audience that doesn't follow your every step and move, they might go, why does she get anxiety? She's got it all. And that's got to be a hard place because to some people, maybe you do have it all, but you're still a human who's battling all the emotions. And you really do realize all the things you're searching.

You got the mirror ball trophy. You know what I mean? And that's great. But it's like, okay, now what else have I not resolved? And, you know, you're still going to feel your anxiety and things like that. I'll always feel that. And it's crazy that you say that because it was one of those things where, and I remember talking to Hannah Brown about this too, where she thought, once I win the mirror ball, like, okay, then I'll be happy. Or once you do this because then you've accomplished and you've accomplished and everybody always thinks, what's next with my accomplishments?

What am I doing? But for anyone listening, you could read your highest goal and you still have to deal with all your inner demons that come along with those. where that is fun in the moment but it's fleeting and it's like okay well now I did that and then you get that addiction to it where you go what what can I do next so do you have something like that or you're like okay I did this now I want to achieve this it's every day it's every stand-up bit you write and it's a dopamine thing I'm a huge sugar addict so like it's dopamine because you want in it in some people channel it through sex through drugs alcohol whatever but you're just chasing this high and if you think you finally got to the finish line

Newsflash, you didn't. And your bank account might look crazy good, but you're not there that's going to wear off. You know, most like lottery winners blow through their money because they just realize that ain't it. And you can still, it's still good to pursue all these things. But like whatever that itches you want to scratch, you have to find like the healthy way to do it because all the superficial ways are not going to lead to any sort of like feelings of like long lasting love. Why do you think people can't figure that out? Like, why do you think, because I'm in there too? Why do you think it's so hard?

Well, we know what the right thing to do is we know that it's not the numbing, the addictions, the next big thing. We know that's never going to solve our problems. Why is it so hard to dig that deep and figure it out? I think you're more of an achiever than a lot of people. I think a lot of people, you know, it's a tough place out there right now for a lot of people. They're realizing they're, you know, we have our health care dangled on our employment,

which as a Canadian, I don't know what you think of that, but it's like ridiculous list that is like, hey, we have good health care perks, so you should work for us. The fuck out of here with that. But it's like most people don't get out of that rut so they don't even get to the creative, fulfilling side of things. So they don't even know what will come when they get to that level. So for me, you know, I do stand up. Yeah, you write a joke. The feeling of new laughter, that's like new sex. I get that. You're just like, that's, that's this new thing and it's amazing. But then once you know the joke works, that dopamine doesn't hit the same way. And it's like, let's write the next thing. And that's like probably a healthy way to go over it.

I don't bash myself when I'm running new things that don't work. It's like, no, I'm growing. I'm experimenting. I'm taking risk. You're going to have businesses that fail, but you're going to try and you're going to have ones that succeed. So when you were younger, were you the same way that I was like you have always been this achiever and you wanted to like do stand up?

Like how did you grow up as a kid? I didn't think stand up was an option because I only saw Chris Rock. YouTube and the internet has made it so people can see the growth of like getting to place. So like growth mindset. Yeah, it's just amazing. You just didn't know that. like Chris Rock's amazing.

You know, he sells out, you know, Madison Square Garden. That's the only stand-up I saw. It wasn't until I went to an open mic, and I was like, whoa. You're right. Which, by the way, we're going to get you into stand-up. That's my main goal today is to get you in. You want to get a healthy dopamine fix. I mean, there's some unhealthy aspects of stand-up, but.

Yeah, there's a lot that scares me. You're freaking hilarious. I'm... Get, just don't worry. That's the best compliment anyone could ever give me in. You need to do it, but not attach your name to it. Just show up to an open mic as Kate. Oh.

Go as Kate. and then show up do your thing and then next you know you'll be doing a spade and sparrows at every comedy show across the country and you'll lose my number and first of all way to try and spin zone this back to me I still want to know about you

okay so I single mom single mom left my dad when she was pregnant with me so daddy issues not really other than he wasn't there but it wasn't like he left divorce none of that like none of that toxic thing that can come with the divorce just didn't exist right um sister and i didn't talk much growing up good relationship now irish twins which means we're 11 months

apart so like my mom was busy oh yeah and then and then left him because he was a vietnam vet and he just was like he it wasn't healthy for her yeah she was actually on a trip to see my family he was from the midwest and on that trip my uncles were like you're not going home she was like six six months pregnant with me yeah PTSD he passed away in the last decade wow i'm sorry not well I didn't know them. Right. Met him when I was in my early 20s. My mom showed up.

So you did know him? Well, met them like a handful of times. Yeah. But my mom came to my sister and I and was like, I have news to tell you guys. And we were like, she had just had, she got remarried to my great, my stepdad's great. But then she had a couple of kids, one of which is 18 years younger than me. Half brothers love them to death, just love them. But this was a couple years after that, or a year after Jack was born, and I'm 19 and I go, oh, man, is she pregnant?

this is so embarrassing when your mom's breastfeeding when you're on a high school baseball team and she's just in the left field like love moms who breastfeed but at the time i was like you know and she's like pro breastfeed and she she printed she had these printed out pieces of paper because this is 2003 or whatever and she didn't have the internet on her phone so she printed out these emails like the boomer that she is and it was messages from a sister i didn't know i had a sister I didn't know I had found us which is a little easier now but this is like Facebook didn't exist this she Googled they knew my aunt was an actress my aunt was a soap actress so they knew that from from years ago from before I was born and they and this was

these are my siblings from my my father's previous marriage and in that in Googling my aunt they found my uncle at the time who was a stand-up comedian and they message him on his fan page he never had a relationship with his father so he was It's just like, oh my gosh, this is amazing. Family wants to reach out. Right. And my mom for the first time told us we had this whole family we didn't know about. Holy.

You said you were 19? 19 or 20, yeah. Now, was that something that you were like, what the fuck? Are we like, I'm excited? All good. All good. Yeah. I mean, you could tell my mom was like really emotional talking about it because she was

early 20s when this all went down. Wow. So she had left that. And when we talk about like just moving past our traumas and not addressing them, she was too busy. She was a single mom. She raised them. You don't have time as a single mom to dig into your childhood trauma like you're too busy trying to survive

Put food on the table and she did and she did a great job and we never asked we never asked we had family I don't mean never thought about it yeah why would I mean why would you we brothers sisters I'm an uncle all these things And now you guys are all close as a family like your some came to my wedding last year or some didn't but they were all they're all in touch and they're all in Missouri and They're just this amazing family so I didn't meet my father on that first trip because they wanted to they really wanted to protect me and say hey we don't know what it's going to be like and so i was afraid not necessarily my mom never talked trash about him but i didn't know the nuances of PTSD i mean he you know he served in a war where they weren't they weren't respected when they came home the troops and people didn't understand the scar

tissue that existed PTSD wasn't a term back then they called it shell shock and really oh yeah anyway i eventually got to meet him and he was just like uh you know an older version of me guy who's left if I look like I smoked two packs of cigarettes a day just like older beat up first and he was a good guy and he still played we both played baseball we had all these similarities all of him all of my other siblings were like you know looked like him but in a different way but i was like strikingly like him okay do you um do you want to smell better by any chance do you get a little stinky in the summer a little ripe if you're being honest with yourself it's probably a hard yes to both of these questions and now you can smell better the summer

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And I think most people operate that. that way in good faith. Yeah, I think we we sort of carry on the story of what his life wasn't. And that's why that's where it becomes easy to take big sort of risks in life. Because you're like he would have he'd never got a chance to do any of this. I like that perspective because you've taken this route where you're doing stand up. Like did you ever see yourself driving around in cars with celebrities asking them questions? Like you took this turn in life that I think a lot of people wouldn't because. Because everyone thinks you're supposed to do this blueprint of, you know, you go to school, you get this job, you get married, you have kids.

Like, this is just how we do it where I don't have those same beliefs of the blueprint, but I don't think you really do either. Yeah, I tried the college, got a business degree. Right. And I was months into a job and I was like, oh, boy, this ain't it. I got into advertising because I thought I wanted to be in advertising. Turns out I liked the movie, how to lose a guy in 10 days. Matthew McConaughey was an advertising guy. And he was this big wig. It doesn't work that way.

So I was like, I just wanted to be Matthew McConaughey. That's all of it. Movies ruining everything for us of what we think life's going to be in romance and work and jobs. And yeah, it's just like. But I think what people need is just a window of hope to what they can have. And this is what like guidance counselors, at least mine never gave me. Like this just wasn't an option. But through that advertising job, I met a bunch of filmmakers because they all worked in the creative ad world.

And they introduced me to the film world. I got into acting, was in SAG, and got on a pilot, and started working and acting, which led to improv and stand-up. So I failed my way into what I now love. But, yeah, maybe I would have had a job that was better, and I would have never gotten to that. I mean, the job sucked so much that it was easy to learn at the age of 22, like this ain't it. That's good. A lot of people, though, don't have the mindset of failure till you find something you love.

That's a really cool mindset to have. I feel like there's so many of my listeners who, you know, have certain jobs that they're like, I don't know if this is for me or how do you, you know, manifest your dreams or go after what. And, but that perspective of failing till you find something you love is actually really cool. Yeah. And sometimes you don't know. Sorry that. No, sometimes you don't know what your thing is and just feel the energy.

What makes you wake up early and want to do something? And, you know, maybe you like to wrap presents and see people's joys and you start a gift rap. company like it doesn't you don't have to it doesn't have to be something that already exists that's true you know here's what i love about having followed your career is to hear your story of being you know working in in in the as in the rest in the restaurant world most people in restaurants are trying to do other things and i found this through other gigs that i've done and there is this you can get stuck in in restaurants that are high paying like if you're a bartender it's hard to break out of that and then what from at least what i've heard from your story you had that moment where

you you hit critical mass and you're like i guess i'm done with that yeah yeah i honestly i could have kept like working my way up i eventually was like well i guess you know if all else fails i'll just be the gym of a restaurant but i knew like my soul knew that that is not what i was meant to do i knew i could i learned so much over the 11 years of working in the restaurant business but i just knew that wasn't like my legacy that's not like what i was put here on this planet to do. And I just feel like it's people, people underestimate their intuition and their passion for something. And people think you have to have these business degrees or, you know, all this education to do what you want to do. And I think it's like social skills and passion.

I say this for stand-up comedians, but I really mean it for so many other people to have a platform where you get to have an audience now is so cool for you guys that you don't have to go grind like all the time at you know stand-up comedy clubs even though i'm sure that's such a fun part of it it's glorified it has it has it's nights is it has it's nights and there's nights where you're just like white knuckling it on the way home what's the worst what's your worst stand-up experience where you're like what am i doing there's this audition mic that i was doing and you got to do three minutes in front of the bookers and you're up on stage and they cut me on i knew they cut me off early like you get to you get to realize when someone's like do seven minutes you just know when it's

655. You really get good at that. Like, give me a three minute light, because my last bits, two and a half minutes, you know, that type of thing. And they lit me early. And it was a mic I shouldn't have auditioned for. I was already touring and doing other things. But they just, like, and I was so pissed. Like, I didn't know. I got off stage and I saw they lit me at a minute and a half.

And it was like, I was already a three minute mic. I'm so offended. You can barely do a joke. Yeah. I got out of there. You're like, knock, knock. They're like, bye. I was kicking doors on the way out. And I just immediately drove across town to another mic just to get the stink off of me yeah just to be like okay i you need it's with stand up and with most things you don't have control over a lot of the environments that you're in so you have to you try to control everything you can yeah i know comedians i've opened for they want to know exactly what

the temperature is in the room and they're in of you know all these little things because you know they've done shows where it's too warm and then the audience gets a little tired like there's a specific uh environment you want to curate you want the light to be right you want the mic to be right and all these things i don't really i mean it's whatever everyone's got their own thing they are trying to control because it's like you can't control. I'm like, you're not that funny then if you need to worry about the Taylor. Actually, he was a killer comic. Oh, well, shit.

Which is a crazy part because some people are that locked in on all the things, but it's like, you don't need to be. Like, that's just you trying to control things you can't control. I guess there is some sort of system to that, though, because I went to a comedy show at Zanis actually not too long ago where it had been pouring rain all day. everybody had waited outside in the rain people were grumpy when they got in and then he did a show like four nights in a row after that where the weather was good and he was like the show you were at was the shittiest one because people are in bad mood blah blah and i was like i guess that does play into it

there would be nothing nothing worse than if you saw me at a show that wasn't at least a decent show because then i know oh she's going to think of me as that guy that you know but that's what happens sometimes you know sometimes because we're so hard on ourselves like i would hate if you walked out of here and you're like, ah, shit, the bar was so high, and, you know, like, that would suck. You have this way of laughing, and I said, if I can, if she can laugh once this way, then I'll feel okay. It's that, you do this like, oh. You just gave it to me, though.

I swear to you on everything. I swear to you on everything that was genuine because I didn't know what laugh you were talking about till it came out. And I went, oh, that one. It's like, it's like, huh. No. I have a few different last, that one's very specific. That's when I look for. I'm not just going to give it to you again.

Felt given, but yeah. I swear it wasn't. I think anyone can do stand-up. I think everyone's got a unique way they look at the world. Well, now I don't take your compliment from before when you said I need to do Senate because I'm funny. You said everyone can do it. I think you're ready to go and just start telling stories.

I think people see comedians with how, like, precise they are with their punchlines, and that stops people from trying it. But I think if you mind your own life, you know, you've got hilarious. ways that you look at your own experiences like self self deprecation wise very self deprecating which i feel like can be good as a comedian but you know what i think i would thrive at and maybe this is just me and i would actually bomb at it um is crowd work i feel like my fiance always tells me that nobody should step into the chirping with me because i can like get you in two seconds and i feel like i would be really good at that i think that's i think you should start doing it that's it oh my god

What if that is my next thing? I want to shine light and it could be through laughter. Make it your own thing that doesn't have to be, you know, that doesn't have to be something that you're just trying to sell tickets for. Just go to some open mics. I went to one last night just to meet some comics. And it's amazing how kind in, you see the community of everyone hustling. Everyone's got a story.

Everyone's like working their butts off to survive. I mean, we've all done it. Everyone in L.A. is an Uber driver. I did it for years. Oh, yeah. I need an Uber driver story. Everything you can think of. And it's just so that you can free up

enough time to go do stand up and and figure it out and then one day it really is a grind but that's so i like growing up i always wanted to dance and in my 20s i would just work at different that's why i worked in the restaurant industry so it could have certain hours so that i could go to auditions and dance and do all that um but that never worked for me well it did it didn't until it did my mirror balls right there if you isn't that weird though but that's like in your greater biography how beautiful yeah i mean like because dancing's dancing you got to do it on a i mean you got robbed that it was pandemic yeah i say i say a redo for you need got robbed because he lost but i saw him the other night at the sports illustrated party and he was like still mad he unfollowed me

on instagram and i was like dude and then i i unfollowed him because i saw that he unfollowed me and i'm petty like that and i walked down the stairs and i see him standing there and i was just like I have some weird thing, and I think I've said this on podcast before, where as soon as I unfollow someone on Instagram, I run into them. I mean, how do you even navigate your DMs? Like, how do you even sift through who needs to talk to you versus who's just chirping you? I am so woo-woo in this where I go, if I'm supposed to talk to that person, it'll happen somehow. Like, they'll email my media account or they'll get in touch with the right people to get in

touch with me. But I try to not go too heavy into the DMs because they're nasty. Yeah. There's some really mean ones in there. Well, Instagram, first of all, yeah, the audience is way too close to you. Yeah. In some ways. And you want some people to be close to you. But, you know, when there was a, you know, because obviously I make Bachelor content. There was someone who was not looked at well after their season. And I messaged them to say, hey, do you know, hang in there? You're going to be okay. And it was a friend of their. No, it's Tino. I think he's talked about it. And some guy was like, hey, this is Tino's friend. He, I'm like moderated. rating his account right now. But just so you know, I told him, and he was like, thanks so much. And I was like, that's a friend. Yeah. That's someone who's, like, helping you out through a situation.

That actually makes me kind of want to cry. How sweet is that? God, he's still a real person. Like, he pissed off one of my closest friends and he was kind of a mess. But like, I still don't want him to get hate like that. Yeah. The wrecking ball never stops at its target. And that's the problem.

It just bulldozes, the collateral damage. And nobody who hasn't been through the public. look screw and he understands. I've got like the vaccine from it because I've gotten a tiny bit of that. I was going to ask you. I was going to ask you because I'm sure there's, you know, such thing as hecklers at live shows and all that, but have you got trolled on your social media? YouTube seems to be kind of a scary place for trolls. You know what? My YouTube is pretty good, but it did get to a size where there is some hate out there, but it's not attached. It almost, it almost sucks more when it's like you can click on someone and you can see like their history.

Yeah. And that makes me feel like it's real. I never. once in over a decade in stand-up felt a certain way from a comment. Only through the, through the bachelor audience, did it feel like it hit personal? And we fought, I mean, like, you learn, sometimes you'll fight with someone. And we had my, this one, my wife, when we were just dating before we got engaged, posted something, you know, supporting a political candidate. It was 2016. Right. And someone commented on it, you're not hot enough to have a political opinion. I, I, because they were like, posted a bikini photo that was like, we support this person. It was like a cute cheeky thing and I went down the rabbit hole we found out this guy was a coach at a college

football program we messaged him his wife his daughter being like do you support this we not we didn't publicly shame him we just went after him and they all sided with him and whatever and it went back and forth and like we like I was like I'm going to start commenting on this guy's high school football or his college football roster like you're not hot enough to score touchdowns whatever just really and I was like I can't be doing this anymore oh because that gets that's a slippery slope that's very fun but then to a certain point you're like well now I'm just I'm I say this on the podcast I'm all about sinking to their level I really am once in a while I like to go down to that level and just like do a little jab back and be like that felt really good for example the other day

this lady was like you've got so many mental health issues and uh it's no surprise that you're posting about being depressed again and she just like went off and I looked at her page And she had her beautiful daughter as her profile picture. And her bio was just, I'm a mom. And I said, please do better for your daughter. Like I said, I just showed this to my mom and thanked her for raising me right to not bully other people with mental health and do better for your daughter. And usually they'll come back or apologize or clap back silence. And I was like, I think that one here.

And that felt really good. Yeah. I mean, you just, no one would ever talk like that to someone else. I've never had anyone at a stand-up show talk to me that way. No. Okay, your girl loves coffee. I do. It's a staple in my house every morning. But I do sometimes get anxiety when I have too much. And I know a lot of you guys can relate.

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Right. No one's like, hey, the hound dog suck. It didn't exist. Sure, he had, no, but you know what I mean? It was like there was this, and everyone goes, well, we need to teach people a lesson. It's like, you're, this is not it. And you're not helping people. And like you said before, when you want to spread love, that ain't it, trying to shame people

into feeling a certain way. When I look at things like the way we treat each other and the way we try not to, we've all been guilty of it, but one person at a time learns, oh my gosh, I didn't realize that this message would get to you. It's like, what were you doing then? What did you think was going to happen here? These are humans. So when my channel started to take off, I started to make some money.

I started to talk to people about it. I know Jason has addressed these sorts of things where people get very weird. My channel's been very lucrative in the last couple of years. It's changed my life. We're going to buy a house. We're going to get a kid now. Things we didn't even think of because why are we going to have a kid in a studio apartment? Our worlds have just enlarged in so many ways.

It's very weird for some people who are living a minimum. wage world. And I've been there. I've done all the gigs. Like I said, Uber and all that. And I understand that. But like, I'm not your enemy. You know what I mean? You have the tools to try your best. Everyone's got a phone. Just start talking into it if that's what you want to do. Find a way to get some equity in like all these people that are online spending their whole day commenting about things. You can monetize that. Have an opinion and go out and share it. Right. Isn't that interesting? But people's brains don't work like that. If only we could just be presidents of the United States of America and this changed the world.

I don't think I could. I'm Canadian. That should be on my bucket list. Yeah, you can't be president. Sorry. What if I'm dual? No, you have to be born in the U.S. or a territory. It's a whole thing. I act like I'm actually thinking about this. Like, oh, that's too bad. We could maybe get you like a Senate position. We could work on that. Maybe mayor. I need to know about how, so you got into all this reality TV and you do stand up and you have all these platforms and channels where you, every day you do a pop, what is it, pop culture?

I did three videos today and a podcast from my hotel room, yeah. You did three videos today and a podcast from your hotel room? I did a video on you. You did? Yeah. I can't wait to say that. You had grocery store Joe and you were talking about Bali and the Maldives. And I was like, I've gone to Bali and I'm going to the Maldives.

I'll talk about this. So I just pull from the content. I aggregate what's interesting to me. I promote it. And then I just run. How many hours a day do you think you spend on? research for reality television? I'm only,

because it's your job. It's, I try to make it, I try to like really, oh, thank you so much. I try to compartmentalize because I did get obsessive.

So like, if there's a breakup that happens as I leave here, if I can't make it back to my hotel in time, I might just cover it from the car. You know what I mean? Like there are certain stories

that are so pressing and viral. Yeah. Aside from those, which only happened maybe once a month, it's usually when I'm away from my computer. I had to do one in line at Disney World with my family. Stop.

Yeah. When Katie, when Katie Thurston was doing her 12 days of mess, my channel's like, I mean, people were going nuts. It was Thanksgiving weekend, so like no one had anything better to do. And you're like, if I don't do this now, like that helps you. Oh, yeah. And people love the sort of blue collar in the moment aspects of it. Like, we're going live and it's kind of a manic. And but no, I try to do like 8 a.m. to 12 p.m. to 1 p.m. I try to make it a four or five hour grind done. And it's like, that's my, that's my day. And I do it. And when we were in Bali for our honeymoon, as much as

people would probably roll their eyes that I would spend a couple hours a day doing that. It's, I enjoy it. Yeah. And my wife is an introvert. So when I'm doing that, she's reading a book. She's happy that I'm not bothering her. I was going to ask about it. I was like, does your wife do this with you?

Does she enjoy it? Like what? So her personality is more introverted and she's like, you do your thing. She's an introvert who can mask as an extrovert. Ah, an ambivert. Yeah. Yeah. But she, well, yeah.

But she gains her energy from being alone. And she can, she can be fine at a party, but it'll like might drain her the next. day. Okay. So I, so the fact that I go do stand up, I kind of burn off this thing and then I can come home and I try to scrub that energy. Sometimes I'll come home like hot, kind of like, hey, blah, and she'd be like, whoa. Yeah. Oh yeah, sorry. Sorry. Let's bring it down. That's, but you do, okay, so you do like five hoursish a day, then you put out content every day on this. What did you think about, I mean, it's kind of old news now, but I'm still curious about what happened between Brandon and Serene. Yeah, that was one that I think people saw for a little bit. Oh, there

coming along yeah i mean yeah at least a month or so because they like weren't posting together yeah the internet's so good so the internet freaks me out they do most of the work for me now like i always tell people don't just tell me if you like a podcast tell me what minute i should be listening just help me out there because i can't listen to it all yeah and yeah they were kind of on top of that and i knew from some other sources they were going to break up but those types of stories you just kind of wait because it's like that's their

moment to share yeah um and then you thank you for that that you know what i get pissed off at is on TikTok. Anybody out there who does this? I'm mad at you. When they go, I listen to the podcast so you don't have to. And then they give you all the breakdown. And I'm like, you can, I respect the hell if you're listening to my podcast and you give pointers out of what, like, what's happened in the podcast or like, whatever. Don't say, I must be so infuriating. I worked to it so you don't have to. I'm like, but I worked at it so that people can listen as my podcast. I don't want you to listen so that nobody else does. I read this, I made this podcast so you don't have to read about it from someone else.

We work really hard. In the end, even if people say that, it will be good promo for you because I feel like most people. So, like, yeah, what I do, if you have an hour-long podcast, I might share five minutes of it. But, you know, you don't, obviously, it's like, it's commentary is not about ripping off. It's like a fair use where I'm just trying to promote. So, like, your convo with Joe, I'm sure the Bali conversation was really had nothing to do it. But for me, I was like, oh, yeah, I'll talk about Bali.

Like, you know, I'm just kind of fucking around. Yeah. That's fine with me. But sometimes you'll hear someone like you had a recent. episode where you mentioned your ex and I was like oh this is they're gonna go off of this and of course they do but we are we are talking about it in a long form where you know us weekly these titles they write they they take quotes and then they summarize leading up to the quote yeah and it's like journalistically it's it's ridiculous what they get away with because you because you don't have a

hurtful bone in your body you're just sharing your life experience and and okay i'm gonna say Okay. So I've talked about this before, but we always edit it out because you'll hear why soon. But when you say that, you're like, you know, the media always has this headline or something they pick from it. But really, so in all, the last few podcasts I've been, I've tried to be conscious of how I speak about my ex because I think it's because of inner child work I did. I wrote a whole letter to him in like this inner child work because it was to people who you still hold resentment against or people that have hurt you. and all the stuff. So I, as everybody knows, I'm such an open book. So I talk about everything. I still talk about my ex from Germany where people are like, we've fucking heard it a million times, Caitlin.

But it's how I process things. It's how I work through things. And I'm also an open book. So on the latest few podcasts, I don't know if you've heard that I actually kind of try and speak highly of Sean, where I say, like, I have complete compassion for what he went through.

And if I say this, this is on me. This is my feelings. I'm not saying it's true. Like, I'll try and really have empathy and compassion for his side because I'm like, you know, it's been so much time and I don't need to speak negatively anymore. And so on Jason's podcast, I had said something about how I felt like he used me. I didn't even think I said fame, but media took it that way. I felt like I was used at the end.

He was hanging on to the relationship to open his gym. And to me, I'm like, well, I was hanging on to the relationship because I didn't want to lose the dog Tucker. Like, we were both hanging on to things for certain reasons. Yeah, he's working on building this thing. Right. And I said, this is probably on me and my insecurities and blah, blah, who knows if it's true. But the media, of course, took it and said, Sean hung onto Caitlin's fame until he opened his gym. Well, then fast for a few days later, I get a text from Sean, and I haven't talked to him in years.

And he goes, hey, first of all, the message was very. interesting. He goes, I hope you're well. I don't know if you're still living in Nashville. I'm like, bro, I've run into you a few times. I don't know if you're still living in Nashville, but I'm like he's tired of media reaching out to him and asking for comments. And he goes, you know, I've moved on with my life and I would prefer to not speak negatively about a relationship that ended five years ago. And I was like, oh boy. Did you ask him if you actually listened to it? Yes. Side note, he now started a podcast and has spoken about me and I'm like, well, so anyways, so I took some time to process what he said and I wanted to be like, okay, I'll be cognizant of this for next time as I'm talking about him, but not negatively. So I wrote him back and I just said, hey, yeah, you know what? I've been in your position, maybe not in the media, but I've had people around town tell me certain things that definitely offended me. me about what you've said and done.

I've never known how to go about that because I didn't know if it was necessary to reach out to you because we have both moved on with our lives. But I understand that that must be frustrating hearing those things. I just need you to know that if you actually listen to the podcast, I try and speak highly and not negatively about you. And happy to chat any further if you want to hear in context what I said, but I'll be cognizant moving forward about how I speak of you. I love how corporate it's best.

Yeah, yeah. Warm wishes. Tittles. Tooteloo. But he also said in the first message, like, I don't know if you want to get together and talk. And so I said, I don't know how you want to go about it, but like, yeah, I've heard shit too. And then it was just silence. Yeah. I mean, just nuance goes away in print media. And again, I'm no moral barometer for it. I make clickbait thumbnail titles. I'm trying to get clicks too. But like we're trying to have the conversation where, oh, come on. Yeah, of course. Yeah, of course he's opening a gym. He's not going to try to deal like get all this. publicity in the other direction like yeah i mean you're allowed to tell your life i mean what's interesting with you is obviously as a public figure those are things that will come out like articles and everything but it's never in good faith because everyone it's all it's i always talk about like corporations being like psychopathic right so like magazines they don't feel emotion everyone's just trying to keep their job no they're like bachelor producers there's a special place in hell yeah because everyone's self-serving Everyone's like, yeah, they might like you, but if they can cross you and it gets them a promotion, hey, this is the hunger games. See, I find that really hard to do because so with my podcasts, there's so many podcasts out there.

There's so many different, like, people I could consider competitive and I could, you know, completely use people for headlines. And I just can't do it. Like, if a media headline picks it up, sure. I can't do anything about that. But I am, like, so terrified to use somebody's pay. or experience where it was like traumatic for them to be like oh and then make that a note like write that down for a headline like i just couldn't do it yeah well it becomes it can be it can weigh on you when when i'm covering certain heavy topics i'm like oh man i just i just try my best

to talk about people as if i'm going to see them at a bar you know what i mean i'm trying not to talk shit but if someone doesn't like if i don't if i disagree with someone i'll argue their point and not the person. Nick Vile had some really bonehead takes, I thought, on his recent talk about mental health. And now, look, hey, I think he's done a great job of building his brand and his business and all that. But, like, I disagree with that. And I think we should be okay disagreeing with things. And it's like, I agree with you. And a lot of 99% of alumni move on with, like, aren't able to monetize it. Do you, because you, I always tell people like, monetize your wine. I mean, it's all brilliant stuff you guys are doing here. Do you get, do you get like,

this shame from people that you like oh so-and-so's 15 minutes of fame are up and it's like oh yeah yeah all the time says who says who i i used to get that a lot more um like every time there's a new bachelor and bachelor add on they always tell me the main comment they get when they're done the show and then they show up back on the next season for like you know a cameo or the producers like hey we're going to pay you to come back on you're like sure everyone's like get out my tv screens you're done you're 50 minutes like they love you at one point and they will just chew you up and spit you out at the next point and you never know what they're going to do and then you have to like build them back up to grow with you and be like ah and what was

a question uh just just just just when you monetize and start making money the 15 minutes yeah yeah yeah at first you're 15 minutes you've created an empire embrace the empire and don't worry about that they were able to extend it you just took an opportunity you would look you would have been you would have been successful regardless of bachelor you didn't you saw it and maybe i'm projecting on to you So correct me. But like you saw a world. And this is why I'll be honest, I tell my wife this all the time, who I just love so deeply, that your story is very much like hers, where she was Midwestern.

She's from Kentucky. And she took like an almost an internship in New York City and never went home. She had to prove herself outside of this world that she existed in. And she needed to be more than that. And she became that and she succeeded. And she taught herself something that you just wish you can, you wish you can teach. your kids this one day. Yeah. And I always tell her like we might start trying to have kids. We don't know, but I'm like, we want the Caitlin Bristow's. We want her kids to have that sort of

be what you want to be and create that. But I don't know how. My mom will cry listening to you say that because she'll be like, I did it. Yeah. But that's just the world you saw and you created. So like whether Bachelor or not, I mean, you would have figured it out. I do, I do think I would have very much like all of my friends, all of my family would say the same thing where they're just like you had no backup plan like you were just like I'm going to make something of my name and that's that's it plan B's are are they're just a thing people talk about so that they feel safer as a sex tape there you go if all else fails you heard it here cancel them just gonna put out a raji sex tape a tactile sex tape where you just start talking just drama just share some you know

start talking about all of your exes us weekly's can be like what do we do with all this it's a sex tape but yeah I'll make it into only fans account where I'm just like I'm like showing my feet. Have some wine. I'll just show my feet and talk about my ex-boyfriends. Oops, I spilled spade and sparrows all over myself here. Yes. Oh, I do think part of parenting and what my parents did a really good job at is they never

had an expectation of what they wanted me to do, ever. It wasn't like, well, you need to go do this and you need to get a good job. You have to go to college. Like, pick where you're going. It was never, it was, what do you want to do? What are you passionate about? Be who you are. like they very much brought my sister and I up that way to just like live the most authentic life

and that brings happiness which is really cool it's hard to tell people I mean a lot of you have to you know there's there's someone who I was thinking of her name's Alicia she sells um she makes crocheted items yeah and she um and that's what she loves to do and you know like I bought I made her I commissioned her to make a little a YouTube play button for me so I was like I love you can do that you can do that you can create the world you want and work really hard but it doesn't feel hard work when it when you're building equity and doing it for you not working for somebody else yeah and when we talk about no plan B like yes some people get in situations where they have to provide for their kids or there's yeah there's always something that can get in the way but find a way to work

really hard and make it work I always say leap in the net will appear but you have to go and do it yeah you have to like get up there and do it and then you'll see the world conspire around you and it is a friendly world and things start to line up like where did it line up for you when like before bachelor like did you start to see this the seas open up like what do you have a moment where that it's always the rock bottoms it was always it was the crying on my parents couch getting addicted to valium because i didn't want to feel feelings anymore to then just like build myself back up and then once you hit that rock bottom and then you build yourself back up and you see whoa that was like the lowest point of my whole life and a year later i'm like

working and making so many new friends and built myself back up and feel like i could do any If you could do that in like a short amount of, a year is quick. I mean, in the grand scheme of things. But the quantum leap does not exist like linearly, time wise. No. The quantum leap, right, is the idea of like an electron goes from one level to another. And they've done studies. They don't see it go from one level to another.

It disappears and then reappears. Yeah. And it's that idea that lightning can spark and you can change your energy and can flip like a magnet, it can flip on a dime and then boom, I figured it out. It's almost like a rock bottom is almost like, um, scrubbing the shame off you. And you go, well, I've really messed up. Yeah, cancelate. Yeah, I might as well just do what I want to do. That's how I felt after Bachelorette where I was like, holy shit, I can't believe I did it. I'm the Bachelorette. I'm going to do this. I have this

name for myself now. And then after everything, I remember in another just like complete downward spiral being like, you don't like this feeling, Caitlin, you piece of shit. Everybody on the internet hates you. And I was just like, and then I flipped it where I went, okay, everyone hates you people are slut-shaming you you like to empower women like let's turn this negative into a positive and like use your voice for something and then that as soon as i did that it wasn't like the rain clouds and everything's you know a storm it was like everything was like this light coming in and i started getting the right jobs and the right brand deals and certain things started happening for me and that's happened a few times like not to dogg on my ex i'm not saying that but when

that breakup happened. It was, I was in a very toxic place and as soon as I got rid of that energy, everything started. I'll never forget, he like moved out and then the next day, the CEO of my podcast company, thank you. Oh, RIP Norm, he passed. But he was like, I'm going to get you my private jet and I'm going to fly you out to this place to speak on a panel with me and Jewel and Mario Lopez. And I was like, whoa, okay. And I'm just sitting on a private jet. And I'm just sitting on a private jet reading a book and like doing emails about my own wine label and I'm like what what's just happening and then everything just started flowing in the right way because I just got rid of a certain energy and it doesn't mean he's a bad guy it just means he was you were like an anchor together yeah

yeah and that and that and that's hard for people to cope with because especially if you're like an overachiever you want your relationship to work and you've got these public relationship that it's like how bad do you want the public perception that this is good and how long can you keep up. That's why like with Katie Thurson, her and Blake, they didn't work out and she were like, we're done. We're not going to try to fake it for three more months. It's like good. I mean, like how much are you going to put yourself through hell just to please strangers? That is so important. I think a lot of Bachelor people do that. I did it. I feel like it's like you feel like you're responsible to have a glorified relationship to your viewers because that's

what you're known for. And when you fail at that and you don't have that anymore in there, they're either like, well, what the fuck am I following you for it? It's for the love story. And that's just all like, you know, in your head. But you do feel this responsibility to all these loyal bachelor watch. And imagine if that was real life. Like in real life, you can meet someone at the bar and it can fizzle out.

Maybe the sex was good, but you didn't have the, and it just you move on. And then really with the Bachelor franchise, that proposal is just the start of something. Yeah. That's, then the real life comes in and you go, oh, boy, like, I'm a hard worker, you're not, or whatever, you know, you're all, everyone's going at different speeds. You almost want to find somebody in life that you can grow upwards with, but not one entangles the other. Two trees next to each other, sharing the sun. That's what you want. And you don't always get that when you're in some fantasy world where everything's perfect.

Oh, I know. How did you find that? Did you go through bad heartbreaks? Oh, yeah. You did? Yeah. I mean, it was either, it was either I was super casual, and I was. say like now casual sex with my wife is like no one that's when you when you're married casual sex is

when neither participant wants to get on top like that's casual sex just leaning there being like are we going to do this you have socks on me you're like this is casual you're your retainer still in you know yeah you're like this is just like a release like we just got to do it because it's been a while yeah things change a little bit when you're married but but when yeah when you're single like I I would project and be super codependent and think someone was perfect because their family was wealthy like you just start doing these crazy things and you paint red flags white and you try to make it all work and then it doesn't and you got to and in most of my relationships I was the one getting dumped because I would be the one that would fight to the

point where I would was and it's almost like a lot of times in a breakup you don't want the other person to break up with you because you just want to date long enough where you can find out why you wanted to break up with them yeah and it's like that's not healthy yeah so yeah I mean I've had those moments it's super embarrassing I'm writing love letters I'm saying typing but I'm like writing love letters and sending them to them after I've been dumped and it's like oh Okay, come on. Oh, I know we've all. We've all, it's so, one of my favorite lines now is if they want to, they will.

Yeah. Because that's just so simple and so easy to digest. If they want to, they will. And like if that person wanted you, you know, wanted to write you back a love letter, they would. Or if they wanted you to be their boyfriend or like, you have to always just remember if they wanted to, they will. And if they don't, you'll get over it. My wife and I had plenty of times where I thought we were going to break up. Really?

I was like, if she doesn't meet me at this, was like Noah's Bagels in Hollywood. I was like, if she doesn't meet me at this bagel place, it's over. Like either it's not. Well, not in a way where, no, no, no. And I don't even mean that like, if you don't get here, it wasn't like, my mental narration was like, oh, I need to see that it doesn't have to be 50-50. It can be 991. I just want to see that there's some sort of, and because, you know, she's like counterdependent and I'm codependent. So I want to smother her and she'll be like, get away from me.

Oh, she's a pretty woman who's had to have, who's had obsessive. boyfriends. So she's had, she's had that before. And I've had to realize that I can't hug my way out of things. I got to take a lap. You know, the dog loves it. I take him for a bath, I walk. You know, he loves it when, you know, when I'm trying to like, yeah. And I had to learn that because I'm not a space giver naturally. So you and you like, obviously, words of affirmation, as you said, but what's, is your love language how you give physical touch? Well, it's hard for me to know what I try to give her affirmations. And those are like, give a pretty woman affirmation. She's like, Who cares? A stranger when I went to go get the mail gave me affirmations. You know what I mean? And so

hers is quality time. She really loves quality time. And, you know, I could, that's just not it for me. So I have, not just time, quality time. So we have, we called device free time, DFT. This year, I stopped bringing my cell phone into the bedroom. And I haven't broken it once, although in the hotel I did. So, but that's like, I'm alone or whatever. Yeah. But it's, I haven't done it yet. It's what, five, six months into, yeah. So. And tell me, what it's done for you. I go to bed. I go to bed. I'll still turn the TV on and put on some like boring wilderness shows. Oh my God. Some guy trying to kill a turtle. You know, like, you know, some like, obsess with boring nature shows to fall asleep. I love it. Was alone? Have you

watched a lot? Love alone. Oh my God. Me too. Huge alone. I started during the pandemic and I was just like, I'm like feasting on potatoes. Like fattening myself up as I watch these people starve trying to catch tilapia. Yeah, but then you're like, see, I like when I do it, I go, okay, I'll take in what they're doing, I'll just eat my own delicious food, but I'm going to take in what they're doing in case I'm ever stranded. How about that celebrity alone? Would you do that? No.

I mean, unless they pay me like a million bucks. You've said before that you wouldn't do a reality show that you didn't have executive control over, which I think's really smart. You're done with that. I just can't risk it anymore. I'm too proud of where I'm at. And maybe that could be my plan B if things, you know, if all my listeners turn on me. I'm just kidding.

No, but you're a funny person. And so sometimes you go for a joke and you can't take it back if it doesn't come out well. Versus on stage. You can tell right away if a joke doesn't come out well. I wonder if I can pull up a hilarious moment on The Bachelor where I told a joke on night one of The Bachelor. And when I was watching The Bachelor season one back, I'm like, oh, they're making me the villain. I'm going to be the asshole. I'm going to be the jokester.

I'm going to be like the person that everybody hates from my edit on Night 1. And I remember in Night 1 getting along with everybody, but the way they can edit is insane. And I told this joke. And when I watched it back, I was like, no, everybody laughed, but they edit it. And they made it look like people were looking at me like, what the fuck she'd just say? And like, Chris gave me a dirty look. And I was like, yeah. But everybody really laughed in that moment.

They just edited it in a certain way. Yeah. And you can't control what. I mean, they could have made me look. like, I say this all the time. They could have made me look like just the worst. I'm guilty of having judged people for the villain edit they got and you just have to realize. Because you're like, how much could they actually edit that person? But then I think about it. I'm like, you could be repeating back something someone said to them. There's just a million things.

And not to mention, you know, the lack of sleep and the social pressures. I understand social pressures. My sense of humor, I could come across as a huge dick, especially back then when I was 30, 29. Like I was my sense of humor was poking at people. Yeah. And it's a way to diffuse a situation. And if that's not edited in an honest way, you know, they can take the laugh out. They can do whatever. Hold on to someone's response from a different thing. And it's like, no, no, no, that killed.

That was good. I always say that too, because a lot of times with standup, you'll record, you'll record from the back of the room, which is good, good for the video. But then the audio gets everyone laughing away. So it gets the amplified sound coming to the camera, but not the audience laughing. Oh, yeah. No, this was funnier than this. That was actually really funny.

You know, so now I bring my phone onto the stage. and record from the stage. I'm like, I will absorb your laughter to make sure that this is a good bit. That's a good point, though. That's a good point. So what do you have coming up? I know you're doing, what do you call it in the cars? I call it driving with Dave. And it's just a, I, a car ride is a, like, movement is always good for creativity. So when you're driving in the car, you're just in a place where, like, it's kind of like being by the river. Things are moving and, and you can just have a nice conversation. So I set up three cameras in my car with lavalier mics and I just have been driving people

around. It makes it hard for people to say no because I'm like, I'll pick you up. Yeah, I'll pick you up. Make it really easy for you. I'll drive you to the airport. Thanks. You know, like, where are these dogs coming from? They're messing up the cameras.

I just love that I've seen you do it with Susie and Katie. And I was like, that's so fun because it's just, I mean, again, things I love. Just an honest little conversation. Yeah, just pick up coffees or whatever. Yeah. And yeah. No, no, no pressure. It's just, it's, it's been fun. I started doing it because I was only doing YouTube. YouTube took off. The AdSense was amazing the way that YouTube pays. And I've been like annoying on videos like yours where I'm like, Caitlin needs to be on YouTube. You're too funny, your visuals, all of that. Well, thank you. Because I did get pushed in the right direction and I'm glad I did. I feel like you've been too successful in other reasons that you haven't needed to be on YouTube. It was my ego. Why? I was like people, I'll get no views.

and people won't want to and I'll feel my fears will come true. Oh, no. I mean, YouTube's, it's Google, right? So it's the biggest search engine in the world. That's true. It's the best way to reach new audiences. And yeah, no. I mean, and I'm not trying to give you advice. You're crushing it.

But that's where I started. So that was working. I was like, I don't need to do a podcast because that's just going to take away from the YouTube. But I started the podcast in the fall. It's become a major revenue stream. And then driving with Dave happened because I was like, I don't have a studio right now to host people. Right.

So I'm just going to drive around with them. I love that. Acoustics are good in cars. And I've got all the camera gear My third GoPro that I just bought I bought off some random person on Craigslist And I showed up to them And they had all this like travel gear too

And I was like huh I like looked her up on Instagram And she had all these bachelorets That followed her And I was like who is? And I texted her like You work with a bachelor? She's like yeah I'm a producer there

And I like just bought a I'm in a city of 10 million people I don't know off the top of my head But I was like oh is there Did the camera come with like a memory card Oh could you imagine I mean, because, you know, they strap these cameras to a bunch of horses for like the one-on-one days or whatever. There was no memory card, but I was like, oh, what a weird world that I needed a quick camera and I purchased it off of a bachelor producer. Wait, that is so funny.

This is going to lead me into confessions because in the first week, I think, oh, my God, I hope they don't take my mirror ball away for this. in the first week they gave me an iPad and for some reason all the I clouds were linking up to mine so I could see everybody's dances and I was like oh my God what do I do

and so we had these iPads that everyone gave us because it was the pandemic we had to do interviews virtually for everything and so all of a sudden everybody's dances were being synced up into my iPad and I asked somebody else

I was like have you looked through your iPad they're like yeah And I was like, what's on there? And they're like, my dances. And I was like, no one else is. So I told Crischel, I was like, I get everybody's dances online. And she was like, shut up. And I could see everybody.

So I was like, okay, they're doing really good. Okay, they, um, hey, that the world gave it to you, you know? Like, hey, what can you do? I couldn't do anything. I wasn't going to do. I said something eventually because I did feel I'm very much to have like a guilty conscious where I like can't. So after that first week, I told Artem and I was like, I think I needed a new iPad or they

need to know but for that first week your guilt got to oh it it was I couldn't sleep at night like I felt terrible because I really I felt terrible because I took it too far where I was literally studying their dances and being like well they're doing that move better than me and I could work on that and they're gonna okay and I don't really like that song like I was getting in my where it wasn't benefiting me either yeah that's yeah that's it's like okay I had probably the most embarrassing thing that's ever happened to me I had a Zit um and I had never watched the pimple popper so this might not have made the highlight reel for like the real pimple poppers but she was like don't pick it you and I had some like film shoot so I just like left it alone and it just was like this

factory in my jaw just this factory of just like a pus factory and it normally like boop done whatever this was like it turned it was probably like an ingrown facial men men's facial hair is a is a wicked thing I know because you can shave clean and then it grows in the wrong way and next thing you know so I there's a photo of me with this thing my left jaw looked like a cartoon like hero like a full thing here but like if you if I didn't point it out you wouldn't know it's on my Instagram if you go back years it's but like I'm in like a tuxedo for this like fancy thing but this one side and I'm like just don't touch it get through it like don't make it worse this whole deal and then she she picked my car broke down or whatever so she picked me up from the shoot I'm sitting in the passenger seat

that's how I know it's on my left side and I done a good job for a few days of just not touching it. Yeah. And I probably scratched or whatever. The volcano erupted. She squeals all over her. This is the most, I've never shared this publicly. All over her.

I was like, well, nice knowing you. I guess I'll move to another world now because I'm like, I'm the type who poop with the door closed. I'm so far removed from anything cool. with body functions. Like, I would never let it. She was like, let me pop it. No, no, no, no, no.

And I'm just so like, ugh. And, but I couldn't do anything. I was like, oh my gosh. I am. You're like it's already happened. I am so. Yeah, there's no stopping. It was a disaster.

I would like to know like a measurement. Like how many teaspoons. Like the vault, how volume this it was. Yeah. I don't know, but I'll tell you this. We, I got back home and we, you know, clean things up. And I'm again, somebody's eating like fetuccini Alfredo. And they're like, they just unsubscribe for me.

Hey, Caitlin, I went on your podcast and lost followers. But I got home and it was, and I had a show that night and it was days before this thing recovered. Days or, if not weeks. It was a, because it was an infection. It, like, it took for whatever was in there, whatever facial hair had to, like, come out. And it was a brutal. Nothing's ever happened like that in my life before. And I tried telling my stepdad.

He was like, well, I was like, oh, I thought I could talk to family about anything. He's like, no. Like, take that one to the therapist, son. I don't want to hear about it. But she, she was like very much in that moment, like, no, no, it's okay. Like, she was very kind. You know, I've happened maybe five years in. She'd be like, what the hell was it?

Right. But she was like, oh, she still loves me. But it was, yeah, it was. I'm like, aw. Yeah, a heartwarming pimple popping. I mean, it was a cyst. It was a real alien came out of my face. Oh, yeah. Oh, that must have felt so nice.

It was amazing. Wow. It was amazing. Well, thank you so much for coming on the podcast and for being in Nashville. I really want to drive with Dave. So we call it? Yeah, sure. What is it?

It's on my, driving with Dave. It's on my podcast Bachelor Rush Hour, which is daily. I made it so it's like rush hour commute time, 30 minutes or less. Cool. I pull together all of, I listen to all the podcasts so you don't have to. No. I promote other people's content. I do love that.

And it's just, and also I share about my life. Because in the end, I don't want people to follow me in just for the information if they don't want to be along for my ride and my journey. Yeah. So for all the people that want to come see me stand-up-wise, I'm going to be in New York City next week, Seattle, end of summer, Phoenix, L-A, San Diego, all these different places, just follow me online and all that. Yeah, tell everybody where they can follow you. Instagram, D. Neils, D-N-E-A-L-Z, and then Bachelor Rush Hour is a podcast, and just search Dave Neal on YouTube. I'm Caitlin Bistow. I'll see you next Tuesday. I'm John Glover.

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