Off The Vine with Kaitlyn Bristowe - Big Brother's Paul Abrahamian

Episode Date: November 21, 2017

Two-time runner up on Big Brother Paul Abrahamian joins Kaitlyn in the studio to talk about his strategies for surviving the show, the unintended positives about eating slop for a week, and his not-so-new clothing line Dead Skull. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Kind of. It's either you boy or friendship or something. Real original, Caitlin. I just started that on the wrong note. Okay, whatever. I'm a dummy. Okay. Oh, do you want some wine? Yes. Okay. Absolutely. I told you when you came in, that's my schick. So, here you go. And I like hearing the sound. It's a really nice sound.

Isn't it? We've got a candle going in here. This is great. Cheers. This is honestly nice. It is nice, isn't it? Cheers. Well, it's nice to meet you. Nice to meet you as well. And, oh, I'm getting, oh, I'm getting texts from Heidi and Spencer Pratt, who are huge... Oh, Spencer, he's one of my buddies's, like, close friends, and they always... Yeah, Spencer Pratt, yeah.

Yeah, because he loves Big Brother. That's awesome. Uh-huh. And he was on Big Brother, UK, Celebrity Big Brother, UK. So I was like, what should I ask him? And now they're writing me back. So maybe I'll just wing that. Okay, so first off, how did you get into the show?

Like, did you have to send an audition tape? Like, what was that process like? Yeah, so I sent in an audition tape, and they, like, kind of scouted me through email and whatnot, and I sent in an audition tape. Yeah. And it was kind of funny because my first tape, like, I had, like, this schick prepared. I was going to, like, shock on a beer and, like, be funny. Yeah. But I didn't press record.

Oh. So it just went, like, 10 minutes of me just doing that absolute waste. So I was like, well, this sucks. So I just recorded it. I made, like, a joke thing. Like, well, hey, I had this thing planned, but I blew it. Yeah. So here I am.

And I sent that in just like a. Really? Well, fuck it. This isn't going to work. That's cool. That's cool. I like that. But they liked that. Yeah. They were like, oh, that was funny. So it just kind of spitfalled into me walking through the door.

Really? Yeah. So you just had to, like, send that in, and then they picked you. And, okay, wait, but when they give you the key, did they do that whole thing? Yeah, yeah, they do. Totally real. What? It was very surprised.

Yeah. I had, like, no clue. Okay. See, I love inside scoop. I love spilling inside scoops of, like, Bachelor stuff and the secrets, and I love hearing them on other shows, because I totally watch that. So many seasons. And, like, oh, my gosh, these people are terrible actors.

No, no, no. That's real. They give you the key saying you're going to the Big Brother House. And you go. Like, for, I live in Los Angeles, so it was really just like a 20-minute drive down the street. But I thought, oh, like, they'll do it. They'll film it. And then you have, like, a day to pack.

Yeah. But no, they're like, kid, you have like two hours. Like, let's go. And I had no laundry. I had nothing. I was like, shit, this is real. Like, they actually do it like that. Yeah.

So I had to run home and, like, wash my clothes. Yeah. It was pretty gnarly. Okay. that makes me happy it makes me like more of a believer in reality TV I was skeptical to I first I was like I'll have a day and they're like so your bags are packed because we're leaving and like but did you know like when you got that key that you were like did you know the key was hidden somewhere no no no no so I actually did it at my I had a brick and mortar

from my clothing company last yearish um and they just hit it in like a stack of clothing so they asked to see a certain size of shirt and when I pulled it out the key was there and I I really had no idea. Okay, that, love hearing that. I always thought people were just being bad actors, being like, oh, my gosh. No, no, no. So that's real. Okay.

Good to know. And then, okay, for people who don't know Big Brother, A, shame on you and Julie Chen is like my girl crush. B, everybody should stop listening to this podcast right now and go watch your season's plural. Plural. And three or C, whatever we're on. Can we run through like the concept? So if you were to explain to a person or people who are listening that maybe don't watch Big Brother, how would you explain it? Oh, okay.

So essentially, you're in a house, 16 people usually, about 16 people. And every week you play competitions that are either physical, mental, combination of the two or just random. And based on the competition you win, it's the responsibility of one person to either nominate two people for eviction for the week. And then you have to play another competition. and if you win that, you could maybe save yourself. If not, whoever is up for eviction has to, I guess, campaign to stay in the house. Right. But every week, somebody ultimately gets eliminated.

Yeah. So it's a matter of just kind of outsmarting everybody and getting to the end. And cameras are watching you 24 hours a day. I left that. I left that little bit out, right? Oh, I feel like people assume that because of Big Brother cameras. And then also, you guys have to do, oh, I want to know, like competitions for being a half. have and a have-nought.

They used to actually do the competition. They don't do that anymore. No, we don't do that anymore. So how do you figure out who it is? I was actually kind of bummed this season with the have-nots because on season 18, we had like, not only was it have-nots, but it was like weird stuff too. It was like, oh, eat like this sea urchin or like eat peanuts or cranberries all week with your slop. But this season was just kind of like, oh, here's slop.

And it was either picked like the head of household, the person who won that cop had to pick people or the people who suck the most. on the previous comp just by default became have-nots. Do you like that way better or do you wish it was competitions? Well, you're like king of competitions. You're like, yeah, I'll compete. I mean, I kind of like the competition, but I also like the whoever sucks the most because it makes it difficult for people who maybe want to throw a competition. Right.

You know, and then it's like, oh, shit, is it really worth it for me to throw this? But then I have to suffer the consequences of maybe being a have-nought for a week. So I think it makes it a little more interesting because it'll, like, spin certain people's gameplay. Like, some people hate being, I have not so much that they just be like, yo, I'm not throwing that. Right. And some people don't mind it. Yeah, some people love it. That's so weird.

If I would snack too much on a week, I'd like, yo, low-key, I should be on Slop next week. Oh, because it, like, tightens up your gear. Tightens up the gut a little bit. That's funny, because Slop, what is Slop, like, oatmeal or something? It's honestly, like, just oats with, like, vitamin powder and it's, it has a nasty bite, but I would sift it out. I would do, like, slop signs because I got, I'd be bored. So you figure out. ways to like mask the taste and it's not too bad that's really funny i was always wondering like

what a slot i actually googled what is slot but i don't know if i could trust google or not it's like a gritty oat like vitaminy protein taste you know like after crappy protein shakes you like i could taste that yeah it's like at the after taste you'll get some of that and that's a full week you have to be on that oh that's the only thing you can eat and legit take cold showers yes cold showers and sleeping in like a ridiculous area which this year was like spiked beds Yes. Which, obviously, they're not like metal spikes, but rigid enough to if you sit on it, it'll stay a spike. Right.

It sucked. It's not foam. No, it wasn't good. That's crazy. Yeah, the whole thing, I feel like I would go nuts. Actually, no, you said you could have condiments. Oh, yeah. I would barbecue sauce and, like, hot sauce everything in my life.

Okay. Then I'd be okay. Yeah. But, I mean, after a while, you're over it because it's like ketchup and oats. Right. For breakfast, lunch and dinner. Yeah, I guess that's pretty disgusting. And then it never dawns on you that like when other people are eating or how much people eat when you can't eat.

So that's like another weird because you like smell other people cooking and eating. And people get hungry. That's a real thing. Oh, big time. I get it. So I'm like, if somebody was eating a delicious meal in front of me and I had to be on slop, I'd probably be. Pissed. Pissed.

Okay. And then first place wins half a million dollars. Yeah. And second place wins $50,000. And third place gets jack squat. Which is crazy. It's pretty gnarly. And I feel like every time people interview and they're like, oh my gosh, and you came in second twice, you're like, yeah, I walked away with $100,000 to play Big Brother.

You know what I mean? Like, I didn't have a hundred grand before, so. And I know you don't watch much TV, but you, my listeners will get this. You are basically like the Nick V of Big Brother, who he was on The Bachelor and he was on my season, and he was runner up twice in a row. Very cool. Not really. I mean, in that situation. He didn't walk away.

with 50 G's each time, but only a broken heart. So shout out. Shout out Nick V dude. Let's get friendship, pal. Sorry about you bad luck. Okay, so you were on season 18. Nicole, I went out for dinner with her

like when she was in Nashville, so I feel like we're friends. That's awesome. Now we're podcasting, so I'm saying we're friends now. I love it. I'm not going to say friendship because I already did a classic, you boy. So I'm like, nope. You're trying to avoid it. Yeah, nope. I'm just to ignore that. together. Okay, but yeah, big deal that you came in second because that's amazing. Thank you.

And would you, are you going to do it again? Would you do it again? There's a celebrity Big Brother. I mean, I keep team up. Right, right. Let's do it. I don't know. It's, it is definitely taxing on you. Like, you know, I can't imagine. It's not like I'm just waiting at home all day and it's like, oh, I'm going to Big Brother again. You know, you have a life. You have friends. You have family. You have pets. I play music. I have all sorts of other avenues. I have a life. Yeah. And as much as I love Big Brother, it sucks taking your life away for three months to like I don't know, live with strangers and kind of play this game that constantly occupies your mind. Yeah.

So, I don't know, maybe after a little break or if it sounds fun, like enticing. Like, I feel like I did it two seasons in a row and I played two different games. Yeah. So now it's more so, okay, what's the next way I can play this? Yeah, because people would be on to you if you rolled in for the third time. Well, I thought they'd be on to me the second time, but clearly they weren't. I know. That's what I'm laughing so hard.

We're going to confess something first, but I have to get to that. because it's, I was thinking the same thing, but obviously we were all laughing, like, with you. Were they, because I still haven't watched the season, so I don't know what they showed and what they didn't show. Oh, so you don't watch back. No, because I, I mean, I lived it, I did it. I know, I know what I did. Right. I know what, I know what happened.

I know the results. I know the end. Yeah. So I don't really need to micro-analyze. But you're funny. Thank you. It's funny to watch. No, no, I definitely see some clips of, like, funny comps and, like, commentary, and it's funny, but I don't know, the time that I have outside of the house.

Yeah. It's weird because going in the Big Brother House and doing that, it makes you appreciate the time that you have outside even more because you look over so many things until it's taken away from you. So when you come out, it's like I don't have time to really sit down and watch because I'm so eager to do a bunch of other things. I mean, even on Bachelor, Bachelorette, I went from Bachelor right into the Bachelorette, and that's like I was on it for 10 weeks on The Bachelor and then like 12 weeks as a Bachelorette.

And like you're isolated, not as much as you guys. But we didn't get phones, internet, could read books. You know, you only have producers as people to talk to. And, no, it's super, like, lonely. And you go into, like, a weird, dark place. I did, anyways. So, yeah, I understand the coming out of it and just appreciating, like, family time or, like, any kind of time you get with friends or people that you actually want to be around.

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Okay, so every podcast I do a confessional booth and we confess something to each other, get something off your chest, maybe that you're embarrassed about, something that happened this week, something happened weeks ago, just anything you want to tell me, just actually basically to make me feel better because I always have something really embarrassing to confess. I'll go first. Okay. My confession is I'm one of those turds that pays for 24-hour live feeds to watch Big Brother.

That's awesome. No, that's embarrassing. That's like, I feel like those are the people that are so mean online and they just think they know you just because they watch you. But I'm like, I would literally wake up in the morning and be like, what's Paul having for breakfast today? And I always get so weirded out when people say to me, I feel like I know you because I watch you on the show and I follow you on Snapchat and blah, blah. And now I'm like, I'm a weirdo. I'm a big word of It's not that it's weird

It's just I still don't understand the concept And even with like I guess coming out and being Paul from Big Brother For a minute right It's still hard for me to understand Like fandom and people who know me And like when people approach me It's the gnarliest thing

Because it's like Yeah They're just so ready to like have this conversation Or like And they think you're gonna be like You are in the diary room And be like wow what's up Well most of the response

When people meet was like Whoa you're really down to earth in real life Like, well, yeah, I'm not on a TV show. Yeah. I don't have to be at a 10 always forever, 24-7. Yeah, exactly. But I don't know.

It's still a weird concept for me to, like, oh, people are just interested in watching me do day-to-day things. Yeah. I don't know. It's cool, but it's a little. It's weird. Yeah. No, it's super weird. Like, even I was thinking about it with, like, looking at how many people watch, like, a Snapchat story or go on Instagram.

And I'm like, that's, like, stadiums of people. And I get very overwhelmed when people. see me on the street and like know who I am because again I'm like kind of at a tent at all times on my social media and on shows I have a big personality so people expect that from me and when I meet them on the street people don't say I'm down to earth they say I'm a bitch really you're so nice well I agree thank you but people think that because I'm quiet they take that as I'm being rude or like I don't want a photo when I'm like feeling like poop in the airport I'm taking photos left tonight feeling like poop not feeling like poop I'm just like all right let's do it I do it anyways because I mean I to say no but it's just a weird overwhelming oh extremely overwhelmed yes insanely overwhelmed especially because going on a reality show I feel like that it's overnight right like you you go in as Paul who's just hanging out in a band and whatever and then you come out of it and you're like Paul from Big Brother right and that's what I feel like a lot of people don't understand that that change it's like it's shocking it's like your life is a little

bit pretty different from that point on and you you'll see your social circle treat not treat you a little differently but like they have like a little bit of a different view on you or just like your everyday interactions or people do notice you in public and then other people like kind of look over at you like oh who are you what are you i'll get a ton of people who come up to me and they're like oh i don't really know who you are but you're famous so can i get a photo with you and it's like because it's all about instagram likes it's pretty gnarly i think i i'm more so infatuated with like all of this reality shows and with snapchat with live feeds with like always kind of filling people in or just with the whole concept of influencers

I think it's fascinating that in human nature we are so fascinated with other I guess like human lives instead of kind of doing our own thing there are people who take so much pleasure and just watching somebody else to it and it's just so bizarre to me I don't know and they either like really enjoy it or hate you for it but never stop watching like I never understand I'll read somebody's like really nasty message to me and then I'm like oh they're following me right so it's strange thank you I guess sometimes I'll respond like some like I'll get random DMs that I'll just be like some senseless just like bottom barrel negative thing and I'll respond I'll be like look dude I really really don't give a fuck but let's dissect this

what what did this do for you I'm like did this make you feel better did this and legitimately one person responded with you you know what this is the only thing that brings me happiness in my sad life is just being mean to other people. And I was like, look, dude, I hope you find peace, but that's pretty gnarly. Like, maybe stay off to your head.

Yeah. I mean, yeah, I do find it is those people. It's funny that he admitted it, but it is those people. It was gnarly, yeah. I don't know. I do the same thing. I love to dissect. I love to ask why and what made them say that to me.

Because I'd rather understand it, you know? Yeah. And then they can't really understand it. So then they're like, oh, yeah, touchy, sorry. I didn't think you'd. respond. Right. And I'm like, ha, ha, I win.

Yes, I win. That was, some girl wrote me under my last Instagram picture and she said, I'm really concerned about you. You're looking very ill. Please, please contact a doctor at the earliest time because she, like, thinks I'm too skinny or something. Or people just, like, jump to conclusions about you and they're like, it's just really funny. When I first got out, before I went on Big Brother 19, I cracked my phone.

to the point where glass shards were on my thumb, it was just not good, not updated. So when I came out, my phone was an actual piece of garbage. Like, just might as well I put it in the trash. Right. So I was waiting for the new iPhone to come out. Yeah. Because, like, and none of my cameras were working.

Yeah. Because I smashed it so bad. Oh, and everyone thought you were an aggressive apple. Everyone's like, no, no, everyone's like, oh my God, he's in a, he's retracted from the internet. He's gone. Like, he's just staying quiet. I'm like, no, guys.

I'm actually waiting for the iPhone 8 to come out. So I don't fix this. He's not okay It's just funny I don't know Are you avoiding a confession Right now? No, I just don't know

What to confess Like, I feel like All my confessions are on the internet Like I talk about it all the time All the weird stories I have All the funny stuff Okay, well has anything in the last Like few days

Like three days happen That you're like Oh, that's embarrassing Let me think Like Like did you Well I Somebody like passed by

Somebody passed by me on the airport and they're like, that kind of looks like the guy from Big Brother. Yeah. So I just look like a kind of version of myself, which is pretty funny. You're like a poor man's paul. Yeah, I'm a poor man's paul, but like, actually. So I just heard it and stopped. I was like, wow.

Did you say anything? I don't even reach my own standards. Well, that's hilarious, but no, you don't have to have one. I don't know. It's kind of a, like, I couldn't. You know what? It's really hard for me to think of one every week while I podcast, but I go there. Like, I'll confess to anything, so.

Okay. Let's see. Let's see. I ate way too many po-boys in New Orleans. Like, a ridiculous, not-okay amount of po-boys. What's a po-boy? It's like a... I'm Canadian. I feel like I don't know certain things. It's like the Poutine of Canada. It's like a smorgasbord of like meats and cheeses and like things in a sandwich. I believe it originates by saying a poor boy sandwich where they just take a bunch of meats or leftovers or whatever, slap it between two pieces of bread and eat it for lunch. I think that's where the idea originated from. It sounds delicious.

Now they make it all cool and like... I want to eat a rude amount of po-boys. Yeah, I mean, it definitely shows right here my gut all the po-boys. You need to go back on slop? Yes. Force yourself on slot for a week. Oh, my gosh. Big Brother jokes.

Okay, so... Oh, yeah, now we have to wash away our sins with drinking wine. With drinking wine, I love it. Po-boys, not meeting my own standards. And... Oh, and stocking you. And stocking. Cheers to that.

Stalking everybody. I remember like you were singing America. F*** yeah. And I was so pumped and then I had it in my head for like days. See, now I feel creepy. That's another, like, when they stop you from singing, you're like, oh. Okay. I didn't even write this down, but that's such a good question.

You can't sing. You can't hum, you can't sing. You can't even think about singing. But why? Oh, copyright? A, copyright, B, like nobody wants to hear you sing. C. Yeah, I do.

I don't know. And you're like I come from a band Like let me sing Let me do my thing I think that's one of the hardest things It's like lack of music Lack of being able to sing

Touch an instrument Like that kills me Every time I go on Big Brother So much Oh yeah I guess you can't like bring Can't do anything Yeah I can't even start tapping a beat

And they'll stop me Because it's like Even if I was singing my own music Sometimes I'd sing like My band songs Or a song that I wrote And they'd stop me And I'm like

I literally own this copyright So They wouldn't let you do that They wouldn't let me Oh my Gosh, I always wondered, too, because I heard a couple times people singing and they wouldn't stop them. And then I was like, oh, maybe if you're like a half, you can sing. Maybe someone's just not paying attention or I don't know.

Yeah. Oh, that's so crazy. Yeah, you can't even sing your own song. Lame. Kind of sucks. All right. You know the drill. Let's talk about bright sellers. You can discover new wines that are delivered directly to you.

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Okay. But do they have control? Like, maybe you can't answer this. But do they sway people's votes and opinions and is it set up in any way? Like, I know it's not, like, I know people hate on your show when you say, is it rigged? It's not rigged. I mean, look. It can't be.

I'm not trying to put my tinfoil hat on right now and start, like, diving into that. Yeah. I like to think that it's not. But at the end of the day, I know that it's a TV show. Right. And TV is TV. and things happen for TV. So I like to think everything is natural.

I don't, there's never been a time where it's been like, hey, Paul, you should, it's never been like that, you know. But, you know, it's a TV show. Right. So at the end of the day, it's a TV show and people need to understand that. Sure, you're watching reality TV, but TV with ratings and all these things. There are producers for a reason. Absolutely. Because they run the show.

Right. And they do help it. They want to make the show entertaining. They want to make the show enjoyable. It's a show. People are tuning in for entertainment. They know what viewers want. Like, tell me that Cody being the last vote and tell me that was not set up.

Right. And I think last year on season 18, I was the one who got to choose and I still had to give my speech first. But this season, somebody chose me. And again, I had to speak first. Oh, interesting. And they changed the order, I think, of the questions and speeches to fight. So there was a shift in that, too. which was a little bit bizarre to me.

I was like, wait, shouldn't I go second because I was picked? And do you think that has a, like... I don't know if that has a difference. It was just little nuances that I paid attention to that I thought were a little bizarre. I was like, well, okay. I mean, I'm not going to stand there and question it, but... Right, but that is bizarre. That was the same thing with, on my season,

Andy, who is the bachelor at before me, who you'll meet, she's coming in after here. She got to break up with her second guy at his room. She didn't make him proposed, like two guys proposed at the end, and you say yes to one of them. They let her break up with him before, and when it was mine, weirdly enough, same guy. Both of them came, yeah, this is a weird concept. Both of them came to propose, and I was like, can I let him go without making him propose? Like, that's so rude. And they were like, no, Caitlin, that's the format of the show.

The two guys get out of the limo at the end and propose. And I'm like, well, no, that's not the format. out of the show because it wasn't last season. And we're going back to the original. I mean, maybe they were just trying to keep something fresh. I don't know. It was just something that I picked up on, you know? Right.

So, I mean, I hear you where you overthink it. And you're like, what does that mean? And why? It could be that. Or it could just be as simple as, hey. Yeah. You go first. This is what happens when you...

That's when the tinful hat comes on. You know what I'm saying? Oh, tell me about it. You have aliens. Yeah, no. I'm right there with you. So I was going to ask if you watched a season back, but you didn't. Are you and Josh still friends?

Yes. Here's what kills me. It's like... When people ask you that? Not when people ask me that. It's... There is... Okay.

You were put in this house with certain personalities, certain characteristics, like for a reason. It's not just random-ass people. You know what I mean? Like, there's character matches, mismatches to make,

obviously, you know? Yeah. And, yeah, Josh and I were just in New Orleans together. Like, I spent three months with the kid. I actually got along with the kid. He was a great guy. Like, there's nothing.

I have against Josh I feel he really looked up to you too He does We're great friends We learn from each other We vibe well together And he beat me in the game Great like I don't

Yeah you're probably happy for him I'm happy for him You know at least somebody who I genuinely liked Who I think has a good heart Comes from a good place And who had my back Yeah Won

He did have your back You know what a little nugget He did have my back He had my back throughout the entire game And there are certain spots Where people are like Oh he was Josh had my back the entire game

He took my hand from the beginning and I kept my word to him to the end. Yeah. But what a lot of people I guess, again, they're watching a TV show. So in their minds, they want to put yourself in your shoes. It's like, well, you could have to have a million dollars. You have to hate him. Yeah. But no, I don't. Because, but it's a game and that just goes, if you're going to

hate somebody just because of either losing in a game or not performing well, or whatever it is because of the game, like what does that say about you? Yeah, exactly. You know what I mean? But there's definitely people inside of the game that you just genuinely don't resonate with. Yeah.

For a reason. Exactly. So whether you're friends with them inside the house, outside the house, people live different lives and people are totally different on TV and off TV. Well, yeah, if you took 10 random strangers regardless and tried to make them and be friends, maybe two of them would. Exactly. Same thing with, like, Bachelor stuff. People are always like, oh, why do Bachelor relationships fail? Well, because a lot of relationships fail.

Exactly. This one's just on TV. And this one's just magnified and you're paying attention to it. Right. Imagine all the relationships you're not paying attention to. Right. Yeah, everybody's very invested. It was so funny because I was in a pool.

I know fans are always like, oh, I'm in a bachelor pool. And I'm like, oh, gosh. Yeah, I was in a big brother pool. First time. How was that? It was actually really fun. But I have to say, maybe that could be one of my confessions. You weren't in it because I thought you were so good that I was like 100% this guy is going out real quick because he's so good.

And Josh was another person. I was like, hell no, this guy is not going to make it another day because he was like day. like day one being like I can't do this and I was like oh can't pick him for my pool like he's toast um okay wait we'll we'll get to that I always do this I go all over the map um would you ever go on The Bachelorette if you were single um I don't know probably not just because uh the concept of the show is just a little bit odd to me it's not odd in a way where I'm like oh no I never in my life thought I'd meet my fiancee through a show like The Bachelor I just can't see myself. Fitting that role. My only reason I ask that, because I always like to know what people would do out of the limo. So regardless, if you said yes or no, I'm still going to ask you, what would you do out of the limo as your limo entrance? My limo entrance. Oh, you don't know the show.

I'm like, I love that you don't know this. So everybody, like the Bachelor or the Bachelor, it's like standing on this end of the driveway in this mansion and limos pull up and everybody. Oh, yeah, and then they come. Yeah. But do they do like a little schick? I've seen the like bits and pieces, but I haven't like, I don't religiously watch these shows. Yeah. So, you know, the concept, kind of, yeah.

So basically, some people go big out of the limo and say really inappropriate things like myself. Love it. Some people just are like, hey, I'm Caitlin, see you inside. Some people come out with like a marching band and it's bizarre. But I just want to know if you'd make a production, if you'd just be like, sup, I'm Paul and see you inside. What would you do? I don't think, here's the thing. I definitely wouldn't go over the board and be like, you know what I mean?

I would. I don't know. For later. I think I would leave it off in a way where it's like, hey, here's just like a little bit of me in. If you're just leave room for like, hey, you could find out the rest if you get to know me. As opposed to like, I like that. I'm going to do a giant thing for you and woo you. Yeah.

I didn't do it like a big production, but I have a very like offside sense of humor. And so I said something really inappropriate to this farmer who is the bachelor made like a plow, my field joke. Amazing. Plow. Yeah. It's great. Awesome. Great.

Um, and then he was kind of like, oh, what is that girl about? Is she crazy or is she funny? I don't know. And then I was like, man, if this guy sends me home night one, I don't want to be with him anyways if he doesn't think that's funny. Um, okay, so, uh, okay, so going in the house. We were talking about this earlier. Everyone, like in my mind, I'm like, everyone's going to come after him. He killed his last season. Like, why would they not? Um, at what point did you realize you were just fully controlling the house? Like, whatever you wanted to happen, happen. It was amazing to watch. So again, I don't really know what was showed, but I know for like a lot, a lot, a lot of times that I'd go into the DR, I'd be like, there is no way that this is going to work. There's either, I swear to almost 80% of the time I'd walk in there and say, either I'm being bamboozled, like they're just going to blindside the shit out of me at the end of this week because everything is going too good.

Yeah. And there's no way that this is work. There's no way that not one person is comparing certain notes. That's what I was thinking. I'm like, there's no way. So I'd walk in there either, like, either A, my plan is going to work, and that's insane because it was the most far-fetched crazy shit that I just keep on coming up with. Or B, I'm about to be embarrassed and, like, ridiculed because I am under the impression that this is working, and they're just going to blindside me, which I think would have been hilarious. Right.

But every week, I'm like, there's no fucking way I'm still here. Yeah. Like, there's no way I'm still here, and they haven't put me on the block. Those two things. That's what I kept waiting for. I'm like, he's going to get back door. They're going to, like, trick him. I was honestly waiting for it, too.

Because I was like, all right, do throw a left pitch my way. But I don't know. At the same time, I was constantly thinking ahead and like, do I really want a left pitch? Because I feel like if they throw a random thing at me, I'm out. Like the second they hit me, I'm out. Yeah. Because I'll scramble. Right.

But if I'm always two steps ahead, then maybe they won't hit me. Which I feel like that's exactly what you. You were always two steps ahead of everybody. And I think people were like, Paul, like, bowing down. Like, Paul knows the game. And everybody thought they were with you. it was genius. The whole time I'm like, this guy's genius.

Some people would say that you had an advantage from being on the show before, but I actually was like, that's a disadvantage because people should have come after you for it. What's hilarious about that whole thing? It's like, A, it wasn't my choice to be put in with 15 new players. Like, I didn't decide. Hey, guys, put me as the only returning vet. I had no clue. Oh, so when you walked in, you had no idea if other people would be in there that you knew.

I had no idea. So I was under the assumption. Yeah. Paul were bringing you back to play Big Brother. So I was like, all right, I'm ready to play Big Brother. Maybe there's an all-stars. Yeah. From my season, there was four.

Oh, wow. You really had a idea. I didn't know what it was. There was four vets my season. Maybe it's going to be something similar. Never in a million years would I have imagined that I'd be the only veteran playing. So, A, that sucked for me because I was terrified the second I walked in. Yeah, of course.

B, everyone's like, oh, you played the game. You had an advantage over the other players. Yeah. Well, so did other vets who have played these other seasons. Right. I don't understand. It happens all the time. Doesn't that happen frequently?

All the time. So, I don't know, it's just wasn't my choice to be, A, the only vet. I just came back to play. And I had to make the best of my situation. I don't know if it's an advantage, specifically when you're the only vet. There's one where it's like, okay, if you have multiple vets amongst you, maybe you could, like, ping pong a few things, kind of hide behind. But when you're the only vet, like, I had nowhere to hide. Yeah.

I had nothing to, you know what I mean? It was 15 new people. Yeah. And then there was me. And I got the safety for the first. three weeks and people are like oh he had three weeks of safety right but then i played the game for ten more weeks after that yeah so you forget that the three weeks of safety were up after the first three weeks and that should have also even having safety for three weeks people could be like okay well

let's gang up on him after which they did like it i don't know it was oh i love it i'm like i'm getting fired up go go it's just i don't know it's it's bizarre like there are things that were tossed my way that it's like all right what do you want me to do i don't understand this is not in my control I just came back to play this game. So I'm going to make the best of the game. And how do I think I think I was the only vet? I knew that I wasn't going to win. Yeah.

I was like, I really... You're probably surprised you got second. I'm blown away that I made it to the end. Yeah. So every week I made a goal for myself. All right, first hit jury. First survived the first week, right? Hit jury.

Then it was, you know, make it to final eight. Make it to final five. Yeah. Make it to top three. And like, I set goals and I accomplished them. And it was fulfilling to see it. But it was also always like, antsy because I'm like shit is this

it's crunching down in my head I'd be like there has to be a moment whether it's at eight or five that these four people turn around and say we need to get rid of this guy I kept waiting for it and more people are mad oh you're the only vet like when I played

season 18 I was team get all the vets out of this game immediately because they've played before right so that concept stuck with me this season because I thought like a new player I was like yeah fuck Paul get him out right now. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

I put myself in their shoes and I was like, well, how can I make it so that they don't do that? Yeah. And in my head, I was like, if I seem like an asset or that they can gain something from me, then why would they want to get rid of me, right? But if they have nothing to gain from me, if I don't make them feel like we're allies, we're in a lot, then they're going to say, we don't want you or need you. The fact that they all thought of you is that and then never, like you said, like went back and compared notes. is so funny to me that you got away with that the whole time

and it was like I said genius and I feel like the only advantage would maybe be like a couple competitions that you would know

like okay I need to pay attention to this certain thing or like I feel like that would be your only advantages that you'd been through some competitions

before that they did the same it's like it's just as much as like any super fan there is you could see these competitions or watch them great point

you know what I mean sure I've played similar competitions but it's never the same It's not like the wall comp is the same placement, the same this, your muscles aren't. You know what I mean? Yeah. Or certain memory comps, like the weather competition.

Sure. I played it last season and won. Right. But I still stayed up 24 hours to study it. Right. To win it. Do they give you study notes? Absolutely not.

And you have no papers, no writing. So I was literally repeating all those weather comps. See, I'm not that creepy. I'm not watching you that often. But so you didn't, you don't get to write anything down. No. And even with the days competition. Like, a lot of.

Like a lot of the mental competitions, that's not stuff that playing before is going to help me because it's all new information. Yeah. New players, new days. Yeah. I don't know. It's. No, I hear you. Sure, there's an advantage of playing the game, but it's not like they replicated season 18 for me.

See, you're good at convincing people. I'm like, oh, my gosh, you're right. Good point. Team Paul. Master. Like, that's another crazy. It's like, oh, you manipulated everyone. It's like, did I or did people just believe me?

Everything that I said, is that? Were they just like the weirdest group of people on big. brother who did not like the fact that they would just be like oh okay um yeah sure i'll go up as a pond i got the i tried things to see if i could get away with them and i got away with them so i kept running with it at no point was i i kept trying to exchange you think i could pull this off and they'd bite so i'd like all right i'm going to pull this off so i was just really testing it every week it was like an experiment for me this is so funny you had a girl with one foot Win, that's hilarious.

A sprinting competition. I found, I thought all of that shit was so funny. We were dying laughing because we're like, like, you told everybody like, oh, trip or like, don't. Oh, and, you know, go too early. And they were not convincing. It was like, I know you didn't watch back, but you should watch that part because their tripping was like, oh, my gosh, these people like acting is not their thing. And everybody, and that you had a girl with one foot win a sprinting competition for people to throw it to her. I've never seen so many people throw competitions in my life.

Yeah, it was hilarious. And, I mean, there were other points still. I don't know. But there was, I had people throwing competitions for a lot of it. I threw a lot of them, too. Which is so funny. Because I needed certain people to win and certain people not to win and certain people to do this. But that's what ever, I feel like watching from watching seasons in the past, like nobody has done that.

You've like opened up a new door of how to play the game. That's pretty cool. It's great. I can't wait to watch next season just because of how you played it. season and I want to know like obviously I don't think people can come into the show now and try and be like Paul or try and be and I hope not because that and whenever I play and people like oh I mimicked ex person's game or I studied this it's an ever change there's no game you can study and do you either adapt and pivot or you don't win Big Brother you just got to constantly adapt

so you never watch Big Brother before you went on not really like it was on at home when I was a kid I see it but I never I committed to like maybe one and a half seasons but not I really. Remember Ian that one? Ian Terry, yeah. Oh, he's so great. I didn't really see, like, I don't know, I just don't watch, it's not particularly for Big Brother, I just don't watch a lot of TV. I watch, it's always sunny in Philadelphia. That's it. Great show. It's all I need to watch, really. I get it. And now you're going to watch The Bachelor. Bachelorette. Yeah, right, now that too. You can get in pools like me. Become a weirdo. All right, you guys see me where my movement watches in basically every Instagram post.

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Well, I f***ed up the first segment of confessions. I blew that one. No, you didn't. The whole thing about my podcast is I just want people to be who they are. If you didn't have a confession and if you couldn't think of one, like, who cares? It's funny. So I wanted to do what? I don't know.

I don't really have much to come. I just do think, like, it's there. Yeah, no, that's great. I thought you saw something in your wine glass and you were like, what is that? Okay. So I was thinking about just. being in the Big Brother house because there's celebrity one coming up

and I'm like... Do it. I'm really, like, desperate. Just shameless self-plug? Super despo to go on. I can't imagine it would be difficult for you to apply. Here's the thing. I don't like to be like, pick me, pick me.

But I'm like, get my people to go pick her, pick her. Yeah, do it. But I want to like... Here's the thing. I think you do well. But it's different for Celebrity Big Brother. It's only like 30 days. that's cake.

Oh, no. I'm like, oh, shit, I could do 30 days. It's still not cake, though, because it's... I say that, and I'd get there, be like, it's like, it's like, when you get to the 30 day mark, then you're like, okay, I'm used to it now. Yeah, that's like the time you get comfortable. Until 30, yeah. You're right. So it's like just enough to still make you uncomfortable, which is cool.

That's true, which is great TV. So I was thinking about how there's only one bathroom in... It's gnarly. It's shit. No pun intended. Yes, pun. Of course pun intended. Or pun intended.

Yeah, because that's what I was going into with my can you not. I'm like sharing one bathroom between 16 people. Can you not? Can you not? Literally. Literally can you not. You can't. It's impossible and disgusting.

That's got to be one of the worst parts of the hygiene thing. So. Hygiene thing. Sure, it's the bathroom, but there's also the sinks, the stalls, the shower. There's, I'm pretty sure there are new species that developed in that shower. No. With the hair, with the gunk. Like, oh, that makes me want to barf.

Yeah, it was gnarly. So it's not only getting along with 15 new people. It's like, you know, you have a friend and then you live with a friend or travel with the friend. You're like, we're not friends anymore. Yeah, yeah. Maybe you should reconsider some of your life choices. So it's a combination of how people eat, sleep, bathe, hygiene, smell. Which is all the worst things that get on your nerves, just like, even just moving in with like a fiancé or a girlfriend or a boyfriend and you're like, oh, you're gross.

Right. And they're on TV. So it's like they're obviously going to be a little. little bit more extra than they normally would be. So you're dealing with an extra version of the person that you are probably not compatible at all with. Right. It sucks.

And arguably you're the extra version of the opposite way. And one bathroom. I just can't go with the one bathroom thing. That's just gross. It does suck. Is there a camera in the bathroom? There is. But they obviously don't feed.

It's just in case you like go in there and puke and pass out and die and they need to help you. But a lot of times people don't knock and they'll just open it and there you are America while you're shitting. There's no lock? There's no lock for safety reasons. Oh, my gosh. Fortunately, for me, it hasn't happened to me, but I've seen it happen to many house guests, and it's funny. Oh, yeah, it would be funny, but also very disturbing.

Well, yes, but. But what about people, like, not doing the dishes? Yeah, all the time. All the same thing. All the time. I mean, this season, honestly, was not as bad as season 18. Like, people were pretty kind of okay with cleaning up after their shit. Their hygiene wasn't bad.

Oh, that's nice. I will shout out season 19. y'all weren't absolute slops. Oh, that's nice. Season 18, completely different story. A little bit, a little bit more gross, yeah. Okay. What about people like tooting in their sleep?

Yeah. That happens. I mean, it's inevitable. Slop diet? Oh, you will. It is. Oh, yeah. Bubble guts times 10.

You bubble guts. Bubble guts. Everything. And people are just watching at home, like, gross. It's. Oh, that's terrible. Slop farts are the worst. And you guys have to, like, share beds at first and stuff.

Like, that would try me nuts. It is what it is I guess What about wine in the house I'm a big wine guy They would give us like I probably had like Four glasses of wine my entire time

Total Yeah first of all We were already insane enough I guess but didn't they used to always have alcohol in the show Or did they take that away They took it away after some dude did some weird thing With a knife I think Or like a plastic knife

He was being weird on an earlier season And he blew it for everybody else I don't know I think Oh shame on that guy I think if alcohol was Do you want more? Did you pour some of

of yourself. I mean, yeah. Of course. I don't know. I think I lost my train and saw that. I blew it. It's because I was pouring new wine and we were trying about wine. But it's just so crazy to me to think of only having four glasses of wine over. Right, that's what it was. I mean, I think if you toss alcohol in the mix, it would definitely make the show. It would make good TV. Way better TV. But... Bachelor, Bachelor, it. It's like unlimited alcohol,

whatever you want at any time of the day. No limits. No limit. I don't know what that would be like on our season. Like season 19 would have been a shh. Everything. There's whiskey. I drank whiskey the whole time. That's gamed 10 pounds. I think, uh, I did.

That's hot. Just from drinking. Just from whiskey. Big Brother UK, I believe, gives you all the booze you want. Or maybe Canada too, but America's kind of like, all right, guys, two drink limit. Bye. That's wild. I mean, that would keep my gear tight.

I mean. That's one plus to not drinking, but I'd also go nuts. I would, that would be my major, can you not? Right. Can you not give me just two glasses of wine? Or eight. Or nine. No, I like even numbers.

Ten. Ten. Ten. Okay, so, and I also always talk about, we talk about this a little bit, but the mean people on Twitter, do you just ignore it? Here's the thing. I know you dissect some of it, like, if you get out of really. If some of it makes me laugh, because it's like you lost. Right.

Oh, okay. I didn't know. Thanks, dude. Thank you for reminding me that I lost. So it's like, some of them, like, they try, I could tell people, like, try to, like, hurt my feelings. And it's just funny to me, like, the effort that they put in to let me know that I literally don't give a shit. So it's like... And you're like, I have more money than you now from losing.

It's not even about the money. It's just like... But it's a funny point. It is a funny point. But I don't know. It's more so I don't really pay attention to the good things or the bad things. And let me, before people are like, ugh, fuck, no. I respond to fan mail letters.

I sit there and I read essays and I write back and I do all sorts of fun stuff everybody who orders from my company whether it's a friendship base or whatever I write them a note I sign I try to make my fans as happy and as satisfied as I can because anybody who supports me

I gotta say thanks because that's awesome but as far as like just oh my god you're so hot oh my god you're so cool like yeah it's nice to see those things but it doesn't really mean anything because those people don't exist if it's somebody that I super in my real life comes and tells me a compliment

that's what means something to me because this person is tangible and what they're saying to me actually holds value so sure there's a lot of empty good things people say to me but there's empty bad things and at the end of the day

they're both empty if it's, if one of my best friends came up to me and he was like yo dude you're kind of an asshole I'd be like damn I really care about this person and you think I'm an asshole let me see why

what did I do that upset you but a random bozo who probably who probably sucks don't really care what you think about me pal so you're right I don't know good, no, that's a good takeaway is the emptinessness behind the messages.

It's all empty. That's a good way to think about it. I remember, God, I'm sorry. No, you go. No. What is it? My podcast. It's your podcast. Go ahead.

I was just going to say that usually. Yes, they do. Actually, they really do. I couldn't believe the reaction when I said you were coming on the podcast. But I was going to say just like the messages, I'll just go look at that person's profile and be like, ah, I just feel bad for them. I mean, it's not, yeah, sometimes I do that, but even that, it's like, that's just giving into the whole product.

of like, I don't think I'm better than anyone else. And it's like, if this person thinks that they're better than me, then if that's what makes you sleep at night, buddy, I hope you fucking enjoy it. Yeah, I like to make sure I'm better than them. I like to go look and be like, yep, better than you. I remember being a teenager and going on the internet and telling people they're dumb. Oh, I did it too.

You know what I mean? It's the internet. But in real life, if you really feel this opinion, please come up to me and tell me that. Oh, you're not going to do that? Of course. No, never. I know, I always thought about that, too. I'm like, oh, damn, I was such a loser.

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Dead Skull? Dead Skull is just like an Elias that I made, honestly, when I was younger, and it turned into a thing, which is cool. It's stuck. There's nothing cooler than seeing, A, people wear my clothes, or, like, I go to a, Like concerts and I'll see my stuff. That's great. People have come up to me and show me tattoos of like my brand or like friendship. What?

Nothing replicates that feeling. That is the coolest thing ever. Off the Vine listeners, if I don't start seeing off the vine tattoos on you, like you're dead to me. Like it, I don't know, it's so cool to see people believe something that I either created or did or like put a lot of time into and they like committed to it forever. And I think it's cool. You did it before the show. It wasn't like you came off and you're like, oh, I'm going to throw something together and I have a. following now you you were like

that's that was your thing what's and what a lot of people don't see is like I do make like for example I had a friendship shirt I released or like um friendship and the friendship bracelets like I did it for the fans and people like oh he's trying to like no my brand has nothing to do with Big Brother has enough it's not very like PC you know it's a little bit more bad boy a little more tattoo culture rock and roll it's a little bit more on edge than like the shit you would see regularly right yeah yeah and I I kind of dipped away from that to make it available for the friendship base because I saw that people wanted it. I saw that it made people happy.

You got to give the people what they want? You know what I mean? So it's not the best for my brand's image because it has nothing to do with Big Brother. It has nothing to do with this, that, but I do it because people want it. And people love it. And you're right. It makes them happy. It makes them happy.

And if that's ultimately going to make people happy, why not just give. And I think it's cool. You already had a clothing line. You might as well do something with the friendship. People live for that saying. It's fucking rat. Friendship is the dope. Like, what more do you want

than friendship? Even when people just say that word out loud, I'm just like, I feel better. Like, I'm just like, that's nice. It's really nice. Andy, are you still in a band?

You still do that? And do you guys tour and do everything? Like, tell me about what kind of? We toured last year. It was our first tour. It was pretty rad. You want to tour together? I sing country music.

Oh, let's do it. Totally the same thing as yours, right? A little bit. I mean, I play in an indie rock band called Strange Faces. We went on tour last year, and we were just working on new music this year. year, but we're set to tour probably around

springtime. And are you, like, the singer? I play, I do backup vocals and guitar. Oh, cool. But I've been working on a lot of, like, solo music stuff, and there's, like, a new project I'm kind of working on where I'm kind of, it's me and a cousin of mine who's a producer, and we're working on a feel it's still covered by Portugal

The Man right now, so. Oh, my gosh, which is so crazy, because you don't know this about me, but, so me and we were, like, Twitter friends, because we love that song so much and we did a whole, like, dance in streets to that song and people were like going nuts over it that we started like a dancing in the streets challenge to that song with that band because we love them that's

I'll have to show you my cover then maybe you might like it's like it's like slowed down and super like vibe oh my gosh send it to me also yeah it's almost it's a great song hell yeah great band too yeah they're amazing and like just nice super cool yeah great great performances as well we are friends I love it's happening Okay, so where can people go, like, buy your music and buy your swag? Tell us where. So the music on Strange Faces is all free. The cover and the new solo stuff that I'll be releasing will also be free.

It'll be on social media. And Dead Skull Apparel, you can just go to Deadscall Apparel.com or check out Dead Skull apparel on Instagram. Amazing. Anything Dead Skull is probably related to me. So if you want to check it out. Yeah, I've never heard it before. So there you go. And send me some love.

That's where it is. I'm trying to look at the time. Oh, man, it always goes by so fast. I know this was fun. Fine. We'll go to questions from listeners. I had other things to talk about, but I'll just tweet you. Okay, so questions from listeners.

Bree, ski, ski, ski, ski, ski, ski. Skis, ski, skis, ski. Wants to know if you approve of Nicole and Victor dating. I mean, of course I approve. It was definitely weird, and I told him that, like, this is so bizarre. When I came out of finale, they were in the crowd. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, they were, yeah.

He's like, oh, there's my girlfriend. I was like, fuck off, Victor. Like, this is not the time. That's how you found out. Straight up, I was like, this is literally not the time to be fucking with me. You know what I mean?

It was like immediately after the show ended. And they kissed and I was like, scur, oh shit. You weren't kidding. Awesome. Like, I would have never saw a coming, but it's amazing. I love it, you know?

I didn't even think about that that you just would have found out on that day. It was just super, because I didn't, again, I didn't see a progression. It was just like, oh, we're dating now. I was like, oh, what? Next question. Allie D wants to know if you talk to fellow

house guests and who obviously you probably talked to all of them um yeah i mean no you do not do you talk to raven and matt they actually were texting me yesterday because raven got a new tattoo so is it dead skull it's not dead skull it's unfortunate i mean i i talked to josh

so they're dating matt and raven i think so i mean it looks like it but are her story's true i have no idea honestly i haven't i saw some i don't i don't know who does I don't even think she knows I don't know I mean there

I don't I don't base things like From inside the show On the outside of the show On the outside of the show I will say Matt Raven Josh They seem like sweetheart Christmas

I'm not saying they're bad people Kevin Ramsey's They have all been nothing But sweet and nice to me And judging on the outside world Which what matters to me Right

I definitely talk to them I see what's up Yeah But everybody else kind of Either is either doing their own thing Yeah I do love the separation The show and then outside of the show

Because it's so fabricated Nobody's at a 10 always Nobody's just doing the things that are like It's a make believe world So on the outside You could be the biggest dickhead to me In Big Brother inside the house On the outside if you're nice to me

That's where I'm gonna hold it Because this is real life Like if you treat me nice When cameras aren't around That means you genuinely mean it But if you're a dickhead inside A dickhead outside Yeah of course I'm not gonna talk to you

But if you know what I mean So I don't hold judgment Until you wrong me in the real world And when that happens, then both my middle fingers will be pointed at you, and you'll probably never see me again. I like it. You keep it real. I keep it real, Bob.

Rural. Ashley Lynn wants to know. And I don't mean to, I wasn't saying anything bad about Raven and Matt. I was just like, that was me. Gameplay, I'm like, what are you doing outside? I'm sure you're really big sweetheart. I would question a lot of things she said inside the house because it didn't sound real to me. I was like, oh, is this?

Okay. I don't want to be, you know. You were funny that you'd like question it from. I'm like upstairs playing your little game. Yeah, I'd be like, um... Well, you vomited on your way out? What? Okay, wait, where was I?

Ashley Lynn? Is that what I said? I think so, yeah. She wants to know the grossest thing you've ever seen happen in the Big Brother house. Ooh, this is a good one. It is a good one. I was really excited when she said, I was like, ooh, yeah. The grossest, I mean... There's probably a lot of gross.

There was two, okay, vomit is just funny and gross to me, so on On season 18, Big Meach puked, and I helped her, like, held her. It was fun. She, like, puked on one of the comps. It was puking everywhere. And then on this season, Josh, there was the pickle juice thing I would make him do. And then in one of them, I took Jason's pickled eggs. Yeah.

So instead of just regular pickle juice, I put pickled egg juice, and Josh pugged it and yacked. No. He spit it out and just yacked for, like, 10 minutes. And it was the funniest thing ever. It was so good. Even just you saying vomit makes me want to. vomit. I'm like big fear of puking, but I knew that's what it was going to be. Yeah. I mean, what else are we doing in those? I don't know.

Like, nobody like shit on the floor or something. It's not crazy. You know what I mean? Okay. Okay. That's pretty gross. So I get it. Danielle Burleson wants to ask which comp was the hardest out of both seasons. I like, like I'm taking both scenes combined and being the hardest comp. Yeah. The last comp of season 18, the last veto, which was the day's comp, but it was with the baseball diamond. Oh yeah. That shit sucked. That was probably the most mentally and physically challenging competition that I've ever played because you are doing like 40 things at once and your brain has to be like counting days, remembering days, making sure you're hitting all the

buttons doing math. I do not know how you guys do that. Oh, it's gnarly. I feel like I would just panic and I'd go in panic mode and I'd just shut down. I'd be like, I can't do it. I'm crying in a corner. But that's really how you do in competitions. You either like lock it the in and go, hey, I'm going to win, or you freak out panic and you suck because your human emotion blows it. Uh-oh, maybe I wouldn't be good on this show because I feel like I would just panic. Nah, you'll have an adrenaline rush too

because you'll want to win. Yeah, that's true. And I'm so competitive. There we go. But sometimes you can't be competitive because then you've got to let the alpha females like, you know what I mean? Like, you got to like study people and shit. It's weird.

It is such a like experiment to just be there and figure things out. But I feel like I'd be good socially. I feel like I love, like, Yeah, and I love making people happy and laugh And I like cooking for people But see, that could all backfire Because people would be like, oh wow

She's a happy, nice girl who's cleaning food Let's get her out Like she's too liked Basically you can't win You either like even if You gotta pivot Like if you're really It's like damn everybody likes her

We need to get her out Sometimes it'll just be that Like all right we've ate each other But like nobody hates her So that's a problem Right Do you know what I mean And I was thinking that that was gonna happen

I don't like when people don't like me Well, I mean, strangers. I don't like, if I'm living in a house of people, I'm like, I don't want them to not like me. Well, it happens. See, there would be my downfall. No, what are you? Or people would be like, she's too paranoid. Let's keep her around.

See, it's so, the game can be played in so many different ways. So many different ways. That's why it's so fun. Okay. Yeah, this was another one. She wants to know, same person wanted to know how you remember what happens. That's just memory. Memory, dude.

I sing that in my head. every night before I sleep. And you know the date. The date, everything. That was incredible. That was really mind-blowing on this last season when you guys had to do that. The clock thing or the... That was wild.

Raina wants to know if you were pissed when Cody sealed your fate and became America's favorite player. I wasn't pissed. I was a little confused. Yeah, confused is a good word. I was very confused at that. But like him not voting that way, like it wasn't surprising to me. No. You know what I mean?

He walked into the house saying, Paul, I don't like you. He literally said, I hated you on your season. I don't like you. That was his first interaction. Right. So I was like, all right, well, fuck this, dude. He doesn't like me. Yeah.

So, okay, I get it. Yeah. Um, I didn't expect necessarily. But then again, I didn't know. It was a toss up because he hated Josh too. Right. He hated Josh. He hated me.

So I was like, shit. He's hard to please. Uh, yeah. So I didn't, I wasn't pissed. I was just like, oh, the irony of television. Right. Confused. Yeah.

Confused. Yeah. Confused is good. Christine Clemens asked if you were a zingbot. How would you zing Caitlin? Would you zing me? You'd be like... I don't know.

You don't know me well enough. I don't know you well enough. So far, you've just been nice and bubbly and fun. You gave me wine. Why would I zing you? Yeah, you can't. You know what I mean? You can't yet.

You haven't given me zing worthy content. I think you're cool. Okay, thanks. Cool. You get like the bottom barrel zing where it's like, was that even a zing? Like, oh, they're cool. Yeah, that's... I always think about that, too, with the zing bot, I'm like,

I feel like I'd want, like, a really big dig. I would want him to... Do you? Like, some people say that shit. It's like, but. I think it would be, well, you're right. Maybe I wouldn't. And then he said it and I might cry in a corner.

I don't know yet. But in my mind, I feel like that. He definitely doesn't hold back though. He does not give. Zingba does not give a fuck. No, he does it. Like, they will say some shit. I love that they're going there too.

Like, they have to bleep some stuff. Yeah. Just because I'm like, oh, wow. But I do feel like that's part of the Big Brother experience. It is. I love Zingbaugh. I think it's funny as shit. I love Zingbot.

I get so excited. Okay Rachel Williams wants to know If you really only get to bring one Duffel bag to the house No, you have like an airplane-sized suitcase That you could Oh, okay

On packing shit, but But so why did Matt wear the same shirt every day Just because he really didn't pack that one? I think because he just really loved that orange shirt And the blue shirt, I don't know Okay I guess so Caitlin Beaksma wants to know

What advice you'd give me if I do go on Celebrity Big Brother Me You Um I'd say don't get involved in drama for the first two weeks which I'm good at not being involved

in drama be like relevant but don't be too relevant like be in the mix but don't be the person that's being talked about for the first two three weeks of the game that's a that's good advice I like that's what I would do let people kill each other eat each other up and then like then swoop in that's what I did on The Bachelor then clearly you did well so

I like ate popcorn I was like these girls are nuts um last question Marquita wants to know if you were creating a super alliance for an all star season who would be five former players that you'd want to play with and why? I don't know if they'd be in my Super Alliance, but these are players that I definitely want to play with Dr. Will, Dan Giesling, Frankie, Vanessa, and let's see, who else would I want to play with?

Those are good ones. Yeah. And I think Beast Mode. Beast Mode would be fun to play with, too, because he's... Wait, is that Caleb? Cowboy. Caleb, yeah. We went for dinner with him, too.

He was with Nicole and Corey. Nice guy, too. Yeah, super nice. I think he'd be fun to play with, too. Yeah, absolutely. Okay. So I've decided that at the end of all my podcasts, I'm just going to tell a really random joke

because I think it's a nice way to end it. So why did the walrists go to the Tupperware party? I don't know. Because he wanted to find a tight seal. I thought you would like that one. That's a good one. It's like kind of dad jockey and I'm into it, like just like. But a little edgy.

It's a little bit a tight seal. Yeah. I'm very into it. Thanks. You can recycle it if you'd like. I actually said that on the first episode of The Bachelor and people thought I was like disgusting. I thought it was great.

Thank you. 10 out of 10 would listen again. 10 out of 10. Okay. Why did the walrus go to the tougher wrap party? You asked for it. Okay, so just a sponsor review so you guys can maybe grab a pen and paper

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