Off The Vine with Kaitlyn Bristowe - Chrishell Stause | The Truth About Traitors, Selling Sunset Drama & Falling for G Flip!

Episode Date: February 20, 2025

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please contact Conix Ontario at 1866-531-2600 to speak to a advisor free of charge but mGM operates pursuant to an operating agreement with i gaming ontario i'm katelym bristow your session is now starting you're like to the show hey everybody welcome to the podcast i'm your host katelymbristow and today we have krechelle strouse on the show she's one of my favorite humans she's so sweet she's so lovely we dive into all things traders selling sunset drama T. I love it all. And of course, I had to ask about G Flip because I'm probably their number one fan. So let's get into it. The one and only, Creschelle. I'm so excited. Okay, we were just saying before we recorded, like, we've been trying to make this happen for so long. I know. I always remember just sitting on the rooftop with you during Dancing with the Stars, having a beverage and just giggling and being like, I love you. Oh, I know. We bonded from the trauma and amazingness that is to Hissing with the Star. Both can exist. Both things can. exist trauma and beautiful memories from dancing with the stars yeah how did your body hold up from

that were you dying i was dying yeah but i also was gotten the best shape of my life so i wasn't complaining but i was so i felt like i was getting hit by a bus concurrently yeah every single day mentally physically emotionally bus hitting yeah i i get that so you've done like so much tvs just so much stuff in general what has been your favorite thing that you have done to be honest with you and I'm not just saying this. I really do think Traders is such a genuinely, like, different and crazy experience. Like, there's parts of it, the experience, it's not fun when you're in it. Right.

You don't have your phone. Yeah. You're sequestered. You know, paranoid. Yeah, exactly. Everyone, you start questioning everything. Yeah. But that being said, it's like, like, I am such a fan of the show.

Yeah. Same. That it really, like, there were moments at the roundtable. I was thinking, like, how are they going to cut any of this? We're on the edge of our seats the whole time. Really? Like, it really feels like we are in it. like there's no like they don't dramatize it for the show like it really is like so traumatic well i mean

when you it's kind of like when you immerse yourself into something like that like i always think about it because the only thing i can really relate it to is something like dance with the stars or bachelor it's like you forget that there's anything else going on in the outside world because that's all you know because you don't have a phone you're not connected to anything else you eat sleep and breathe this one thing that you're doing and it becomes so intense yes and then i'm actually and try to make this work out with my schedule but the only other thing I really do love though I have to say is like

you know I just did like a very small part in a holiday movie but we're trying to make a bigger thing happen with scheduling and stuff so that actually is the most fun thing to do because you get to just play a character but if we're talking like the reality space it's like it's going to be hard to beat traders I was

dying at you teaching Sherry a slap and she kept going the wrong way you were like doing this dramatic slap and she'd go the wrong way. I was laughing. I love her. She is the cutest little human ever. But what made you say yes to going on the traitors? Well, okay, so there's a little backstory here. I actually was asked to do season two. Yeah. And it failed, really? Wait, okay. Oh my God. I know. That would have been great. If we would have been on the same

season, are you kidding me? I know. I know. Would you do it again? Can I do it again? I'm like, wait, ask me again. Sorry, go ahead. So basically, it fell. Season two, they filmed it at a different time of season three. And I would have had to be. Miss G's birthday. Oh. And I'm such a birthday person and you don't have your phones. Yeah. Yeah.

So I'm like, not only am I missing their birthday. Yeah. But like their whole family's coming down. I can't even call you on your birthday. Like this feels wrong. Yeah. So I said no, but I was a fan of the show. And then obviously when season three rolled around and they changed their production dates.

I was like, I meant to be. Yes. Oh, especially because Dina's casting, who does casting for dancing with the stars too. Oh, that's so funny. The show feels. Wait, so are you going to do the next season? Is this an exclusive? Yeah, I wish.

Nobody's asked me. Well, Tina loves you. I don't want to be one of those, like, desperate people that it's like, put me out, please. Because I feel like nobody wants a person that really wants to be on a show. Like, imagine somebody being like, I'm desperate to go on The Bachelor. They'd be like, take her off the roster. Oh, yeah, true. Caitlin does not want to do traders.

Oh, I'm a little busy, but I'll see what happens. I feel like, well, number one, bucket list is to go to Scotland. That's like I've wanted to go there for years. You're not going to see much of it. Well, that's the thing. The reason I want to go is because I want to go to a golf course. Yeah. So I have to basically go back to Scotland because I only saw the castle.

Could you stay like an extra week and explore or no? You're like, I want to get home. I think like it's just too much going on because, yeah, like they've already scheduled. And you just kind of get shot out of a tornado. Totally. Oh, where am I going? Okay. But yes, I think ideally I would have done that.

But then you've missed like home and everything. Yeah, that's true. I just need to go back. And it's the filming total is like what four weeks when you're also by yourself so like if you have some like you wouldn't know when to tell someone to meet you either because you don't know when you're going to be murder banished. So like you'll just be roaming Scotland by yourself. You don't know what you're going to be murdered. Like we were saying the show is so intense. How did you mentally prepare for it or did you because you're a fan of the show? What did you do to prepare? Well, okay. So there's all these things that I think people do ahead of time. You know you watch the seasons. You come up with the strategy. I'm just going to be here to tell you. it goes out the door as soon as you get in the castle because my strategy going into it I had watched the show and I was like you know I really want to lay low yeah and not even be a topic of conversation if possible I'm good with socializing and things like that and cut to the very first episode I've got Tony and Tom I'm sitting basically sandwich between them and they're

going around telling people they think I'm a traitor I'm like no what is happening so my plan I had to defend myself from the get-go. Yeah. So my plan was out the door. I feel like that's like, this is a weird comparison I'm about to do, but like a mother going in with a birth plan thinking she's got it all figured out and then you get there and everything's chaos and you're like, this isn't how I planned. That's crazy.

Do you think your experience on selling sunset helped or hurt you in the process? Oh, I definitely think it helped because the roundtable, I found it interesting that some people found that to be the most stressful thing. And I actually, I remember when I knew Tony and. Tom were going to my name was going to be a topic of conversation that was the only time I felt very prepared in the castle I was like kind of like this thing comes inside of me from doing reunions and selling sunset where it's like all right we're about to go to verbal battle let's go other than that I was not prepared I loved seeing spicy Chrisel come out I loved it because I was like

you're just you're such a little angel pie but like don't with you don't I know don't I just feel like I keep getting these positions where people mess with me. I'm like, leave me alone. I know. I know. You're a easy target because you're sweet. I do, when needed to, can defend myself. I would prefer not to have to because at this, especially in this situation, I was like, wait a second, like this happened like as we left the roundtable. So come on, guys. Like, nothing really happened. You're just kind of, Tony, as he said on the show, he was kind of throwing it out to like, you know, create a little chaos and get the target off him. Yeah. So it hurt to sit next to him. And then Tom, of course. Yeah. You know, Tom.

Just, in my opinion, was making a personal, making it personal because I'd only off camera told him like, hey, I hope this isn't weird. I didn't know if he remembered. I'm friends with Ariana. He was like, no, not at all. I was like, awesome. Yeah. And it was off camera. I didn't even think it was going to come up.

So then when we left the roundtable and he immediately started telling people I was a traitor, I was like, obviously I took that as like a personal thing. Yeah. So that's why everyone's like, oh, my God. It's like, I didn't even hate him before that, but now I do. Yeah, you're like, wait. He, I feel like, the, not that I feel sorry for him, but he's so, like, easy to not like. Like, there's just something about him where I'm like, yeah. Yes.

And you only see so much. Oh, gosh. There's more, I bet. He's just, yeah. I mean, obviously, I do think he makes for funny, like, content for the show. And he had a good, you know, when he helped, like, push for Rob. Obviously, that was a good moment for him. So he has his good moments on the TV.

But, you know, I do think he's someone that is better to take in doses. Yeah. But people could say that about me, so you know. People say that about me all the time. Yeah, exactly. I get it. I freaking get it. That, like, what is it like being in that house? So you sleep in the castle? Yeah, it's crazy. And you have like different, like, I would wake up in the middle of the night and I'd be like, I'm in the traitor's castle. Like, what is happening? I feel like, I remember waking up in the bachelor mansion and I was like, it's just like a regular house. But then I look up at the ceiling and there's like stage lights and cameras. And Rose, and I'm like, oh, right, I'm on a TV show. Wait, where you sleep, it's like that? Yes, there's cameras everywhere, everywhere. In your bedroom? Yeah. There's lights over your bed.

Uh-huh. And they would turn them off as late as possible and turn them on as early as possible. No. Oh, yeah. They're just trying to mess with you. Like, did you get good sleeps? Oh, okay. Well, you know what?

Maybe you'd have some restful sleep in the castle. Yeah, it sounds nice, actually. There was not that. The breakfast looks unbelievable. Yeah. You know, that's editing. I got to be honest with you. No, the breakfast is terrible.

It's like, what? It's probably cold by the time you get in there. It's like one of those continental breakfasts at like a Hilton Inn or something. And you don't trust the salmon. You know, you know what? I'm a big like omelet or eggs, like warm type of breakfast girl or like pancakes. Like something warm. Everything's cold.

Oh. Was the coffee at least good? Yes. Okay. Yes. I'm not asking the juicy stuff. I'm like, tell me about the eggs. Well, you might be doing it, so I'm just going to get you prepared here.

Well, I like knowing behind the scenes of any show. I think it's so fun, like, to know just all the little, like, did you, is there a bar, like was Wells serving up drinks? He wasn't there very long, but. I know. There was a bar, but it's funny. They give you a limit. Oh, they do.

I think it's like one glass, like these, like, basically like the plane wines, like the size of a, when you go on a plane. Yeah. And you're allowed one of those a night. There was one night where they gave us two. and I don't know what the difference was, but they, but they space them out. It was like one before the round table and one after. So it was like hours between the two.

And that was only one time. Wow. Which is weird. And selling sunset, they're like, would you like another? Yeah, no kidding. That's what it used to be like on Bachelor. Yeah. That's what it used to be like on Bachelor.

I was like, when I was Bachelorette, it was shots all around every day, what time of day, it didn't matter. And now they do the drink limit on that show as well. But what was your, okay, if say I was to go on it. What would be your best advice for somebody that was going to be going on? Okay, so one of my biggest regrets of the game, I made really close friends with Nikki, who still, I love her, I adore her so much, but the game really does make you so paranoid. And she got, and she has admitted this, like, really homesick for her son, which makes sense.

But it timed out that right after Bob, the drag queen left, Nikki got really homesick. And I was thinking how fun it would be to be a traitor if you had Bob. like you know kind of heralding everything and then it just kind of timed out where I was like and I so I sensed her you know the change anyways my biggest regret is just go off backs yeah don't go off feelings don't go off because everyone is really paranoid everyone's homesick I know this you know this right off of me you know I haven't done a gaming show before but yeah just go off the facts like who voted for who it's hard to remember all the time but like just try and memorize as much as you can and just go off X. Yeah. And what are the like competitions like? Oh my God.

Like was the last one was the one that aired with the bugs. It was like, I can't do that. So I'm telling you, the one thing I was, I was really scared about water and bugs. Water. Yeah. So I, the physical challenges I loved. I actually was so relieved that it wasn't that. I was like, okay, I got this. But then when it came to, I asked them, I was like, guys, you don't understand. I am the world's worst arachnophobe. Like, I'm not joking. Like, I really am. Yeah. And so they promised me there would be no spiders.

Like they, and I was like, I wasn't sure if I could trust them, but they really and then if you see the episode with the bugs, they found these scorpions that somehow look more heinous than any spider I've ever seen. Oh, gosh. Did you freak out? So they were right. They kept their promise. Yeah, I tapped out.

I would tap out. I couldn't do it. I know they'd put birds for me. They'd be like, we're putting birds in every corner of this challenge. I love your bird, fear. It's always been my favorite thing about you. It's so real. I'm like spiders to you.

I will deal with a spider, no problem. A bird, I would, I would freak. I wouldn't be able to do it. See, this is why we would have been a good team. There you go. If we were on the same season. I'll take the spiders. How do you deal with it when you go?

When you go to Australia, is it like, are you so scared of the spiders? I've actually, okay, I don't want to jinx it, but I've never seen like one of those crazy ones. I've never seen one. Okay. I've only seen one like regular house one. And I did freak out, but someone got it. It was okay.

But it was like a regular kind, not like a... So in my head, I'm like, are they just exaggerating? I know that's what... You know, people talk about the drop bears or whatever, so I'm like, but I don't want to know. No, no. They don't exist. They're made up. How does G feel watching you on traitors?

Gee, get so into it. Really? Yeah, so we're allowed, like, one call a week, you know, and there is so much emotion by the time I've called. So I had given, like, tidbits. You can't talk too much. You're being supervised. Right. But so to, and then, of course, when you get home, you're trying to explain things like challenges and the, you know, just, it's really hard to explain.

Yeah, yeah. And so it's really exciting. She's always saying, like, it's cool to see, you know, to put what you've kind of told me what I picture versus, like, seeing it. Yeah, yeah. That's what I would, I love watching. I can't imagine if it was, like, Gabby, too, is, oh, my God. It's a straight up comedian. I love her.

She really is, what's her name's, like, long lost dog? Yeah, Jennifer Coolidge. Thank you. Yes. I've never seen anything like, because I'm like, damn, but I don't think they let her be her as the Bachelorette because that's too out there for the Bachelorette. You know, like, they like to keep you in this little box of, like, I was the edgy one. And like, Caitlin, she's not the girl next door. I'm like, I would have loved to see Gabby Be Gabby a little more on Bachelorette.

Oh my God. I would absolutely let. She's just so naturally funny. It's hilarious. I love her. Oh, my gosh. She just has a very unique style of humor. where I'm like, I know Robbie's in comedy, so I don't know if she would want to step on toes there,

but Gabby would be a great comedian. Oh, I think that'd be great because it's totally different, like you said. They should do a duo, a traveling duo. That would be so fun. Who did you get along with the most and who were you like? Well, okay, obviously I didn't get along with Tom. And honestly, any of the men that were just so like, the men are better, there was one of the person. there was one other person that did that was Wes

so I don't get along with guys like that because it's like they just Tom was for a different reason to be honest he wasn't doing that to give him credit it was just more that I felt like he made it personal right off the get go and then lots of things that you don't get to you know in doses like I said but with Wes he really was

you know there's a side to him that's really charming and like you know kind of tries to like disarm you with comedy but there's another side to him and I get it he's done these gaming shows forever but he really does like talk very condescending and belittling at times. And so I obviously don't take well to that. You're like, I don't have to talk to this. I've just lived a life where it's like I'm not allowing you to talk to me like that. So we butted heads a couple times. They cut it. I think because it didn't

line up with the right episode of when he went home, it was one episode before where I twice had to say, do not speak to me like that. Yeah. So yeah, so those two I didn't really get along with. I'm sure that will come out in their reunion. But I mean, this is my opinion. It's not going to change. So I think for his, he kind of did an interview saying, you know, that it was dangerous, me saying that I think if he just said, listen, I get competitive in the castle. That's not who I am outside the castle. It's like, oh, I get that. Yeah. I think him doubling down on it and was like, you know, exactly.

I can't. You literally could disarm the whole thing by being like, it was in the castle. I get competitive. I would have totally understood. Anyway. So we'll see what happens with how the reunion goes. But who I love the most, okay, obviously we had the Bambies, which is Gavi and Nikki, who I love, we also had Sierra and the Bambies.

Yeah. She was a later edition, and then, but they, I don't know, we did like some fun stuff if it didn't make the show. You never know what's going to make it. What didn't make the show that was so fun? Like, what were you like, I wish they showed that? You know, there's like some gameplay that I wish they showed. I was on to Danielle and I brought her up to like three different people. Really?

And I couldn't get any traction. But the thing is, is like, if you don't bring it up at the round table, like, and that's where it takes. I was so, I had PTSD from helping send one of my best friends home. So I was terrified to then like start the charge when I hadn't had time to like get any traction with something because you're just thinking like every moment could be your last. But that being said, if you don't speak up, that could be your downfall. Right. God, it's such a confusing, like certain shows can't manipulate. Like producers can't come in and manipulate.

Yeah. And so it really is what it is. What we see is really what it is. I'm used to production manipulation. So this show works so hard against that. Like you literally, when you go in the room to do your interview, you don't even see someone. So you can't read their reactions. You are taught.

There is a box. They push a button. They speak. They let it go. So if you said something funny, no one even is laughing. Oh, I hate that. It feels like you're talking into like a void. It's very, like they don't want to give anything away.

Wow. Yeah, it's very serious. That's very like Big Brother of them, too. I feel like Big Brother hides camera. Well, obviously, they can see. producers or anything, but that's, that's crazy. Okay, can we get to the dramatic murder? I'm scared because obviously when we're recording this, this has not aired yet. Yeah. But when this does air, this will have happened. So I don't even know what's going on. Tell me everything. Okay, well,

sadly, okay, I do think it was, it was the most dramatic death that Traders have, has ever done, face-to-face, first ever face-to-face murder. So if I had to go, I love going out in a dramatic Of course, have fun. And to be honest with you, I didn't participate in the bug challenge. I ripped my hand away right away. So I really, like, there was no way I was going to beat Boston Robb to get a shield up against him. So, and I would have never forgiven myself if I quit and then Dolores got murdered. So I think it was the way it was supposed to go.

I really think after helping sin Nikki Holm, it kind of hurt my game because my confidence took a hit. I didn't have, like, those are the, I can look back at moments and be like, I should have, spoken up then. Right. So I feel like I was critically wounded of just like my, you know, needing to speak up and sometimes you have to. So I think it was my time to go. But that being said, my mind was blown.

They take their hoods off and there stands, Danielle and Carolyn. And I'm just like, I knew Danielle. I really was, that was the name I was shopping around and couldn't get traction with. And I was just like, oh, I freaking knew it. And Carolyn, I was just like, mind blown. mind blown like what I was like after that I was like Carolyn I hope she takes the whole thing because she because nobody suspects her right when I left the castle nobody expected her wait what do you mean it's the first face to face death because usually you're in that chair and reading the letter yes so this time

they brought you into the room you have to walk into this like um it was like this church with all these candles everywhere look like a music video and you're walking towards a coffin and basically you turn around. If you see Allen standing there, you're safe. If you see traitors, you're not. So as I'm facing forward and I hear behind me, I did kind of think I heard more than one footsteps. And I was like, oh no. Damn it. You had a bag over your head. That always scares me when I see them with the bags over the head. I did it. They had their hoods over. But I just had like my, I just was having to face forward. They tell you like wait until, you know, you hear them stop. Way to be. Are you like shit in your pants?

Yeah. I mean, it's really like my heart was racing. Like, I was just like, I don't, like, to be honest with you, so when we're saying this right now, I haven't seen it yet. So I don't, I can't wait to see it because, like, there's so much, like, there's so much, like, adrenaline going that I can kind of remember what I said. Like, I remember getting hand at the paper. And for some reason, the first thing out of my mouth, which is the only thing I remember saying is, you spell my name wrong. Really? Did they really spell your name wrong? How embarrassing? Everyone spells my name wrong. But come on.

No, it's a traitor. It's like a funny meme where it's like literally everyone's name has always spelled out. That's hilarious. But there is a little tidbit that hasn't gotten a lot of air time because they cut it from the show that I think is interesting to people that have been following along. They cut out the fact that Danielle swore on her grandkids. And so there's a lot of play. This is going to come out the reunion. I'm not sure when you're going to play this.

But there's a lot of us that are, you know, she knew it was going to be aired on the show. She said it multiple times while filming. So there's no. you know but i think that is the thing the when i brought it up to certain people i remember specifically delores being like absolutely not nobody would do that you know so there were i wouldn't sleep at night because there was factual things she was doing where i was like this doesn't add up right doesn't add up like why was she crying about derrick at breakfast he told her he didn't have a chill yeah why did she cry in the church i was trying to bring these things up

but again just think facts don't think if you go in don't go with feeling don't matter if someone swears on whatever. Don't listen. Just go on facts. I really need to time it where I'm not on my period. Good luck with that one. Do you all sink up? And then sometimes you're gone on these challenges for a really long time in the middle of Scotland and all the girls were like, guys, we need a TMI. No, I bet. That's a, those are the things I think about. We were really roughened it. Those are the things I think about. Like, I could never do special forces for so many reasons but like I think the women get extra should get extra the men are sitting

here saying we're strong or we're faster and they actually have no idea what we're actually putting up through like shit you know what I'm saying you're like I'm battling cramps right now that would literally have you on your ass crying in a corner and trying not to get a camera shot of the back of me because there's no bathroom anywhere we've

been out here for hours TMI TMI no have you seen me on this podcast there's no such thing as TMI that's crazy Kay I need to know about war Okay, what do you want to know? Well, first of all, was that story done with the murder? Like, what, like, you got, you saw them, you're murdered, and then?

Yeah, I mean, I think that there was just that moment with Danielle, I don't know if they're going to keep it in. You know, this is basically one day before I know because basically, I said, Danielle, you swore, and she was like, it's the game. And so in my confession, I'm like, could somebody go check on those grandkids? Yeah. That's, I wonder what her grandkids are going to say, that were her kids and that's a thing gamers take it differently like i think the ones like you know the ones i was

talking to trying to get traction that aren't gamers take that in a different way wait what is daniel from big brother oh yep so the non gamers i feel like it's there's a moral difference and they can take advantage of people like us that would think that you would never do that i'm such a big brother fan and they swear on things all the time when they're lying oh okay so damn i didn't know that yeah so that if somebody i wouldn't trust anyone that said i swear on like whatever I'm yeah I don't trust you yeah I've trust issues in general so I don't think I trust anybody this is gonna work out great for you yes the thing that's up against you in that house is it's like a lot of people don't know who each other is admittedly like a lot like everyone this cast was so stacked but there were so many of us that had no idea yeah like we might

know okay they're from survivor but it's not like we saw their season and knew their strategy and knew who they you know yeah that's so true i've i think i've only watched one season of survivor ever i would know every big brother person in that house yeah and i don't watch real housewives right so i wouldn't know many people but i've that's interesting too because everyone thinks you know no each other a lot of people had no idea that's crazy we would just know the show now i i i watch a lot of reality tv so i think i probably knew more than some people but there's still you know it's a lot shows. Even if I've seen Survivor, I didn't see certain seasons. I've only seen a couple seasons, so I actually hadn't seen Boston Rob's season, but I had just watched Deal or No Deal

Islands, and he was phenomenal in that season. Oh, did you watch that? Yes, I literally had just watched it right before I got into the castle. So when he was standing there, they're like, oh, shit! Yeah, so, I mean, I appreciated my friendship with Rob. I feel like it's one of those things. Listen, I didn't want to work against the guy. Right. So I love being able to work with him, and I just thought if you go to the end, then it's a relationship you need to question. But right now, like maybe, I don't know. I, I've spent a whole day with him on the bug challenge. So I really didn't want to believe he was. But looking back at it, you know, I think that's where my blind spots are. If someone's really nice and lovely, he loves his wife. He's such a family

man. He was so considerate. He would always try and help the girls out. I have a blind spot to that. And then you're working against someone like West one night when they were pitted against each other. It's like, listen, one I can work with and one I can. So sometimes you have to be careful, like, regardless of if you're faithful, do people want to be around you? That's such a good point. What is your favorite TV show? It's hard to pick a favorite because it depends on like what's on cycle because I have really gotten into like, I used to be really into love is blind. I think I'm off it now because I just feel like it happens with bachelor, bachelor, bachelor, I used to be really into that. Same format. Because the couples don't last sometimes.

So I feel like, what's my new? Oh, Squid Games, the challenge is going to come out. And I love the scripted show. So that'll be my new one. Yeah. I think Deal or Neil Deal Island is fun. So I don't know. I just like, it depends.

It depends what your mood is. Love on the spectrum. Oh, I love on the spectrum. Yeah, so I feel like it depends on whatever is airing. Okay, yeah, I did want to know about the wardrobe. Does everybody just hire a stylist and go give me Scotland chic? I mean, I didn't, but. You didn't?

No. Do you dress yourself? all the time. I dress myself. I'm obsessed with all your outfits. Thank you. I feel like stylists, they charge like so much money. I think like $15 to $2,500 a look and you don't keep the look. Yeah. So I'm like, if I'm spending that much money, I want to at least keep the clothes or I'll go to showrooms and borrow or something like that. So I've just kind of put it together myself. Did you just put like a mood board of like what's like look at other people's outfits in the past? I kind of wanted to do like Barbie Des Scotland. Yeah, I love that.

So I was just kind of like basically kind of try and infuse some of like my, not today, obviously. I dressed for you, Caitlin, like, my flannel. You're like Caitlin likes people who dress like skateboarders. Yes. But, you know, yeah, I just wanted to give like a little flair of like, basically I was trying to channel, what's your name from Legally Blonde. Reese Witherspoon. Yes, Elle Woods. El Woods.

Thank you. El Woods. You know, so I was just thinking that, like, let me be underestimated and be friends with everyone and you don't see me coming. and then will you did well i i i yeah well i i i did good i actually did i'm fine with how i did yeah i had a dramatic death i i outlasted some people i'm not doing bugs my biggest fear is getting sent home immediately he said oh my god same nobody wants to be the first one to go home no it's it's got to be the worst and i think that's what everyone is feeling so you know what i think that was a win yeah so that's true let's talk about selling sunset for a minute there was a report that you

threatened to leave the show. What is the real story? Okay, so because I really thought that the way the last season aired, season eight, was mishandled because I personally feel like it's only fair if you're asking someone to give their life to the show. Yeah. If you're going to make such a heinous allegation, I really felt like it was production's job to let Emma know. One on camera so she could defend herself, if not that, it's okay, say they wanted this big dramatic ending. somebody should have let her know before she saw it, and it aired. Nicole had made an allegation against Emma that she was sleeping with a married man. And so it was absolutely not true.

And the thing is that Emma didn't have a chance to show or prove that it wasn't true or just basically call Nicole out on her many lies that she just does every time. But then also production didn't let Emma know. And literally she didn't find out until it was literally like in the press and we're getting screeners type of thing, type of thing. I really didn't you know it's hard to respect that and now we've retooled everything there's an agreement where it's like you know because these are your lives you have to be able to know and have a heads up I feel like when you do something like traders you're given like this

support team and they're constantly checking in and it's like you know so I think we're working towards a better system selling sunset but it we just really don't didn't have one in place then when the season started so I said I didn't want to have anything to do with her they talked me into okay do a dinner so that then you can see how basically like one situation and like basically then you can kind of make a decision yeah also i got a raise um thank on that helps and as you should but um and i'm sure you've seen the headlines but um it didn't go well and she dug her grave a little too deep and you have to really dig it really deep for producers of a reality television and the ones that are famously like known for you know the drama is is good

for business yeah i can't say because it'll be such a but it will i will say it will be on season nine and you will see because i know that that was a question whether or not that dinner was filmed or it was and it will definitely be on the show oh that's good to know do you like enjoy doing the show but i know it's got to be just so exhausting it is because i mean i'm so grateful for it. I truly am so grateful for it. It's afforded me so many opportunities. And I really do have a love for my clients and real estate. I really genuinely do. But obviously there's these situations where in real life I would never associate with certain people again, but you have to. Yeah. Like this situation where it's like, you know, yeah, so it's just, I'm always torn between, you know,

keeping my sanity or doing my job and making good television where it's like there is, you can't do both at the same time. Right. Well, it's hard to because it matters who you surround yourself with. So when you're surrounding yourself with people, like you said you wouldn't choose to surround yourself with, it like brings out a dark side. Yeah. You know, like I've, I've had a friendship, I've had like one friendship breakup in my life. And I realized that that person, I was always drained and feeling really dark after. But it was like high highs and then just really low lows. And I'm like, wait, that's just not how it's supposed to be. So to have to do that, I mean, I think anyone can relate to this at home,

even if you're not on a reality TV show that everybody's watching. You have to go into your work sometimes and be around people that you do not want to be around. And it's draining and it's like a energy sucker and it's hard to do that. And can I tell all your listeners one thing? Also, they're making you have to bring something up. It's like, you know, so I'll see some comments sometimes where they're like, I can't believe you picked a, you know, a don't dog funeral to do and it's like do they cut out the 30 minutes of us like guys you have to address this like we have to do it and then we can go where it's like so can we just can you guys at least like no it's like not like I'm like now's my moment I know you'd think that people would get

that by now because reality TV is such a thing and I feel like so many people talk about reality TV and know more than we ever did like I remember I used to watch The Bachelor and be like why are these men just sitting around talking about her? Right. And it's like, well, of course, there's 10 producers on the other side being like, guys, we're not leaving until you talk about this. Right, right, right. But people don't understand that.

Can I just say, it's real in the moment what we're saying. Right. There's no script about when the topic is brought up. But I just mean the prompts. Yes. There's an outline for the day. Yes. That makes sense.

I feel like that's very similar to Bachelor World as well. Talk to me about going back to acting neighbors. Yes. What? Oh, okay. This is such a fun memory. It's such a, so for U.S. people, they may not know because they didn't grow up with it. But in the UK and Australia, Neighbors is like a huge show.

You know, everyone started there. Like Kylie Minogue, Margo Robbie, the Liam Hemsworth, I don't know which one or both, but anyway, lots of people. So it was such a family vibe. I started in soaps. I have such a love for, you know, just that whole thing. And it's a lot of hard work, but I loved it. I love, you know, playing a fun, it was a really fun character. and they timed it for me.

So I was like, listen, I can't do it then. When the offer came through, I was like, but if you make it this month? So I literally went from the castle in Scotland to Australia and did neighbors. How do you and G keep it going? How do you keep things healthy? How do you? Oh, well, okay, well. You travel together.

You've met G, so I'm obsessed. You know this. It's a problem. They really make it easy because I genuinely feel like I have the best person on the planet. So it's not like that hard. Right. But, I mean, we travel a lot, and it was in the beginning, it was kind of like oiling the, you know, the machine and trying to make it make sure it works. So we always FaceTime every day if we're not together.

And then we, you know, we are always in, like, say for instance that, like I moved the month so that I knew G was going to be in Australia. Right. And, you know, same G is going to be doing a big tour later this year. So it's like, you know, now when I'm setting my schedule, I'll be setting it around their tour dates. Yeah. I'm not going to go the whole time. But, you know, there'll be pockets where I'll be. one of the, you know, tour girlies.

Yeah, oh, it's so fun. When we went to G-show in Nashville, I was just like such a groupy weirdo. No, you were so cute. I mean, like, all of my friends and people I hang out with, when I am driving to my Bronco, when I, like, want to, like, sit outside of my, and have a glass of white, like, I am constantly listening to G-Flip. Oh, I love it. I have a G-flip sweater.

Like, I don't want to be a little creepy, but I'm just such a fan. No, I love it. It is not creepy at all. I think if there's any, like, you know, you just, I don't want to do them from you. People are fans of people that, like, really deserve it. They play every instrument. They're genius, pure talent.

They write all their own music. They sing the vocals. It's just crazy watching them work. And so I... Must be such a turn on. It is. And that's a thing. Like, we're always, like, sweet and get...

But G has a switch. We talked about this, like, I think. Yes. So it's fun when you see them play. It's just they're in their element doing what they love. And so the new. album, I have to say, is coming out later this year. And I've already, you know, heard it as it like changes iterations. And you're going to have so much more amazing music to listen to. Really? Yes.

The best they've ever done. Really? They've outdone their song. It's so impressive. Wow. Any collabs? You probably can't talk about it. Well, I did play the cowbell in one song. Yes. No, that's really hilarious. I have five hits of the cowbell. Like a cowbell. Nice. One, ten, three, four. Cool. Because wait, isn't that how you two, you met was on one of their... Not the cowbell. Not the cowbell, but on one of their videos. Well, okay, that's what the media ran with. We didn't actually meet that way. Oh. But that's when things were percolating. Yes. Well, then how did you meet? We actually met through... So I was working with a client, Tones and I. Yeah. Oh, yeah, I know. Yes. Yes. So I was helping her look for a

house. And she was doing a show in L.A. and she was performing, opening for Tones. And so basically she introduced us. We met that night. It was like, you know, just casual, you know. And then a couple months later, she had reached out like, hey, I'm moving, actually moving to L.A. I don't know anyone. And so unknowingly to both of us, because I didn't know their situation. They didn't know mine. But we both had gone through breakups. And then when they came, but I also thought it was right. So when they came, you know, I was like, oh, yeah, I'll introduce you to some friends, you know. And then, you know, G. was hitting on me. And to be honest with you, I just got and stood up that night of the party. So I liked the attention.

But when they did ask me out, I was like, oh, unfortunately, I'm straight. Isn't that crazy? I know. It turns out I'm actually just attracted to good people. Yeah, I get that. I get that. Not always. I've done therapy. I get that, though. But you know what I mean?

I'm not totally of it can take. No, you know, I'm also a better version of myself than I was. But yeah, so I just feel like, luckily I had done the work so that when I met the most amazing human being, I was ready. Not in initially because I thought, oh, that I they're so amazing but like and then the first time I got butterflies I was like wait a minute that must be so interesting I always think about that for myself because I'm attracted to humans yes and energy and just like who somebody is and I always wonder what that would be like because I am overmen oh my god can we cancel them is can this be the podcast where they canceled

I did a whole thing just getting there some great ones no a couple exceptions I said this on a, I did a podcast with one of my best friends, Kat, where we were talking about, like, eating healthy and working out, and we were talking about how it's 80-20. And I was like, 80-20 is also a thing for men. Like, 20% of men are really incredible. And 80% can we stop giving them a microphone? I think that's, I agree with that. I would like to co-sign. Yeah, 80-20 feels right. Yeah. I think it feels right, too. That's what I'm saying. Okay, I want to also, before I let you go, talk about the fact that you got to go to the Grammys and do red carpet interviews. Oh my God, so fun. How fun. Who did you meet that? You were like, holy shit. Well, Chaparone was a big one. I met her very briefly, and I couldn't believe she actually remembered that. I mean, when I say it was in passing, it was truly in passing. You know, so we didn't know we were going to get her. And it was really important. And then Dochi was such a vibe. Like, they were trying to rush Dochi off. And Docheo, like, you know, was just having fun. And Dochey, like, you know, was just having fun. And Dochi really was just like not what, you know, know, was just enjoying the interview. And so it felt good because normally you feel like, because you feel rushed or that they need to be somewhere, that they're like, God, I have to be here. Yes. That's nice. Yeah. I love no. She was amazing. Oh, my gosh. I truly love, I love that you got to do that too. What was your co-host? Oh, Anthony. Anthony is amazing. Yes. Oh, my gosh. And I love that

you get to be an advocate now and be out there on red carpets. And do you feel like reality TV is starting to do a bit more representation. I do. I do. I mean, because I think it has to, you know, this is the world. that we live in and you know you either you know go with you know what a solid representation is or you go backwards yeah so I think there's a lot more work to do obviously yeah but you know I think we're making small steps obviously I would like us to make bigger steps right I'm actually in the process of I'm working on something behind the scenes it's not to the point where we talk about it yeah but um you know it's important to me to keep that element where it's like you know the real world dating where it's like nice when you know you have people that are open to people so that it just

kind of you know it's not just so like here's a girl she's here to meet a man and vice versa where it's like you know that love looks like different things nowadays and I think I'm the perfect person to show that yeah I agree because like a lot of people you know might struggle with their identity or what they identify with yours and I'm not speaking for you just tell me it wasn't more of a struggle it was more of just like an aha moment am I right Oh, I feel like, yeah, exactly. It's not like I felt like I lived in the closet at any point. I just always felt like I luckily had the ability to fall in love with who I wanted to fall in love with.

And so not everyone has that. But I, you know, and so I think, yeah, exactly that. I got butterflies one day and I was just like, wait a second. I'm going to lean in. Yeah, lean in. Because I was going to ask if you had any advice for people that maybe they're not struggling or maybe they're questioning or maybe they don't know how to just lean into the people that they love. Yeah, I think, you know, it's funny.

Like, afterwards, I look back at things and it was like, oh, okay, there were certain things where I was like, there's, like, funny, like, if you go to TikTok and you, like, there's, there's funny, like, TikToks where it's like, if this has found your page, there's a reason. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, if you're on this side of TikTok. So I think for those people, listen, it's 2025. It's a crazy time right now. Yeah.

The number one thing I would push. people to do is to live out loud and love who you love. And if that means that you're a woman that loves a man or a man that loves a woman, that's beautiful, you know, love them correctly. But also don't, please don't hate or contribute to hate to people that all they want to do is love someone that they love. It's not that deep. I'll never understand it. I'll never, my brain can't wrap around. Like, I don't have access to feelings of that much hate. Right. And like, and, Just like the needing to know what's in someone's family, it's not anybody's business. Like just love who you want to love, let people figure it out, like, you know.

Isn't it crazy that we have to say that? I, peace love Buddha. I know, it really is. It's really wild. Okay. And then what's, you know, you've done reality TV, acting, real estate, red carpet hosting. What is next for you? What are you excited about?

Well, I'm excited about, you know, as these things go, it's like there's a lot of things that I'm working towards. But, you know, like I said, I would love to do, you know, I'm trying to do something in the scripted world but you know it's it's also like working out contracts and stuff with like and figuring out what's happening with selling sunset so there's just a lot of plates in the air but but it's important to me to do scripted I really want to do like a holiday movie oh you'd be perfect yeah and so I'm really working towards that because I think it'd be so fun yeah but then also you know I want to do more hosting I've done it I just hosted an Australian show I had so much fun instead of being in the hot seat I got to be in the host seat yes isn't it fun I got to like hold the people

accountable in the moment as an audience member so I really want to do that as well that's something that we're trying to work on as well so that I think more hosting and scripted if possible I really would rather not be in the drama part of reality I get that I get that I feel like I'm in a place where I'm like I want I don't want to be unless it's traitors truly because it doesn't feel so dramatic and catty like I just I love hosting I just love hosting you're so good at it oh I love it so much like this is one of my favorite like it's just so you're so natural at it you really are thank you so much for saying that i have one more question oh i just want to know how you take care of yourself like to stay grounded to stay humble to stay like your like self-care how do you

do it i mean busy thank you um i i honestly i think it's a like you said it's who you surround yourself with i mean there are times where you know i'm i'm caught up in like you know some craziness and then it's you know hopefully i can always bring myself down but i also have people around me know that it's like these are not the things that matter yeah so i always constantly and i think it also helps my background of where i came from because it it just keeps everything in perspective i'm super grateful for this life yeah but i also know it could be gone tomorrow and nobody could care and i just am working towards having that you know my bank account ready to just go live on a farm somewhere oh my god i'm joining that's my that's my tenure plan live on a farm somewhere i totally feel that

You've experienced so much loss and, like, your upbringing and your life and everything to where you are now. I bet that has so much to do with who you are, your character and your perspective. Well, thank you. I do think that that kind of forms you at, like, a young age. So I think, and luckily, you know, I wouldn't change anything at this point because it can be a crazy city this at Los Angeles. I get in and I get to f*** out. I'm not going to be far behind. It's like my pink hair.

I'm here for a good time, not a long time. Yeah. We'll come to Nashville. I've got a pool. Gee loves Nashville. I have to tell you. It's like one of their favorite. Well, it's perfect for music writing.

And can I just make this comment? I feel like I forgot my ring today. It's been bugging me all day because I'm like, now people are going to say something. Oh, God. I just left it on my bathroom sink and I was so mad at myself. I didn't even notice, but yes, people will, but... It's so annoying when they do that. Anyway.

Well, I'm glad we cleared that up. Also, that's never a headline because I sometimes forget it. Wait, can I just put this out in the universe? If G ever wants to go to Nashville and just write a song about, um, something you know a little collab I would do it oh my god yes I love it she's like collabing with the biggest artist and I'm like and Caitlin Bristow I have so many good song ideas in my head really that's awesome I've got a notes list of like 30 songs I want to do okay we need to make this happen I just basically want to come to Nashville anyway tell them I went number one once

I will okay thanks can we play this the song out like can it be our outro music well which one yours oh god no I'm over it okay confession embarrassing story and then I can I'll let you go okay I was trying to think about what to say here because I'm not good at this stuff and so I asked G last night I'm like I don't know babe like what do you think and they it's funny because they were like you should tell this story because they think it's really funny so so remember when I told you I had that party I invited G but I got stood up that night yes I don't know that I've ever told the story so the guy who I was supposed to meet. It was a mutual friend. She was like, you're going to love him, you know,

had built him up. But I didn't, I had no idea who he was or what it looked like or anything. So it was like, oh, it's going to be a party. It's a perfect way to meet someone. He ends up texting that night saying, not even him. This is the most LA thing I've ever heard in my life. You want to talk about 80-20? He said his friend, Peloton had just, I guess, hit a dip in the stock market. And his friend took a big loss. And he really needed to be there for his friend that took a hit with Peloton. are you kidding me he stood me so it's like buddy embarrassing because yeah you're like I am not worth that I was in the trenches holy shit if I can be and now I'm in the most like I've never been so loved I've never been so in love so if anyone is questioning whether

they should like maybe this nagging feeling of maybe I should pursue this you know what I'm here to tell you go for it absolutely go for I'm I look up to you both as like a relationship because it like oozes through in person I know Instagram is always a highlight role but it's just it's so obvious the love and respect you both have for each other and I'm like how do you how do you keep it going that long man oh well I think it's just I think it's just finding the right person yeah because I think that when I really do think that you know when you just have like you feel like you're with your best friend and you feel like you really supporting each other and you really have respect for each other

It's just different, you know, because I was just used to being, I kind of went for the opposite before, you know, I kind of went for that alpha type. And you need to kind of, you know, make yourself smaller to make that dynamic work, even though in the beginning it's like exciting. And then once I healed myself, I'm not saying that, you know, just from my personality, it just doesn't work because I wanted to be with a giver. I'd never been with a giver before. And so it was really amazing to kind of be in a giving relationship where two people are constantly trying to take care of the other person. So I think it's just finding that dynamic that really works for you. It's so beautiful. And I'm not here to espouse like, you know, advice for me. It's just what works

for me. Yeah, it's what works for you. You're allowed to say that. I just think it's so beautiful because I think healing is a big part of it where you finally want to be in something that feels good. Yeah. You know, like a lot of people go for these relationships where it's like, why do I keep going back to the same shit and you're not happy? And then the more you work on yourself, the more exposes what you actually want to bring into your life. And then you get there and you go, ha ha, growth. My friend is in that position right now. It's so hard because you can scream it from the rooftops. And you'll never, I know. Oh, God, I've been there. Like, do not go forward. I know. Well, thank you so much for being on the podcast. I adore you. I love you. Thank you. Thank you.

I love you. You're the best. This is so fun. Oh, let's do it again sometime. Not in like five years, please. I'm Caitlin Bristow. Your session is now ending. And if I'm being honest, I wouldn't mind a rating in a view.