Off The Vine with Kaitlyn Bristowe - Colton Underwood

Episode Date: February 19, 2019

Kaitlyn hangs out with star of the current season of The Bachelor Colton Underwood! Join in the fun as they Kaitlyn confesses to putting her foot in her mouth literally and figuratively, Colton spills the tea on what it was like being the bachelor, and why paradise was his, “personal hell!” Simple Health – Go to SimpleHealth.com/vine or enter code VINE at check out to waive the $20 prescription fee See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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The Bachelor, Colton Underwood. Thank you for being here. Thanks for having me on. I'm honored. Are you? I am. Oh, thanks. I've been trying to get you on for a while, I feel like.

Well, thank you. I think I wanted you on actually even, like, before you were the Bachelor, but schedule stuff was not at least schedule like bachelor at straight to paradise straight to bachelor yeah that's it i was like uh do you want to fit me into your busy schedule or nah yeah i would have if i could have um i have to say that you i've recorded four podcasts today so i'm a bottle of wine in okay and uh can we talk about this candle for a second because i'm you know i'm actually a big candle guy you are yeah i love candles and i love bass is that sort of weird no okay cool baths and i just talked about this on my last podcast a glass of wine I'm actually a big candle guy you are you are you are i love candles and i just talked about this on my last podcast a glass of wine I a bath and a candle like make me very happy and a little classical music yeah do you know what flavor this is flavor would you like to taste it flavor of candles it's um it's hawaiian something hawaiian something hawaiian breeze it's a frieze candle it's it's delicious i'm a mahogany teakwood type of guy wow that's very specific very specific but see that's i know my candles you really do now i don't feel like i'm a big candle guy next to you gosh you're a real big candle guy I want

Like, let's not waste any time. We've got to get right to the details here. Yes. Give me the dirt on Jason. Oh, so Jason's actually involved in my confessional. Well, let's just dive into that. Do you want to start with a confessioner? Yeah, let's start.

You know what? I like starting with confessionals because then people are all loosey-goosey. You can only get a little wine, a little confession going, and then they're like, I'm going to tell her everything. And you know what? By the end of this podcast, you're going to tell me what happens at the end of your season. Well, you know, I've been sort of tight-lipped this whole, I might give you something. Well, you know what? Off the vine is the safe place.

We're like in the trust tree with the nest. Okay. And people usually tell me things that after they're like, whoops. So you're in the right place. All right. Yeah. All right. So straight into the drinking and straight into the confession.

Yeah. So let's say, okay, let's confess. My, I'm going to confess first because I just need to get this off my chest. I they were talking obviously the virgin thing is just so played out like we get it it's like you do all this charity work and you're a good guy but they're like let's focus on that one thing um so today on access Hollywood they were obviously bringing it up and I said I don't trust virgins and then I was like that was a dickhead thing to say and then they're like so you don't trust cold and I was like nope and then I was like what are we doing it and then by the end

of it Howie Mandel was doing it with me yeah and so he kept bringing it up and he's like Well, you don't trust them. You don't, and I was like, I really regret saying that. I said that on, I was like, I regret saying that because, of course, I trust you. But it was just my inside joke that I don't trust virgins. I trust you. But I felt really guilty about it all day. I'm like.

I forgive you. Thanks for being up front. Well, yeah, of course. I'm very honest. I haven't watched you yet. I've been getting tagged in it, but I haven't watched it yet. It's like two minutes. Okay.

And it's. I won't judge you in those two minutes. Please don't. This is our first time meeting to. We've obviously I've known of you for a while. Of course. And then the whole Jason thing. And I was looking forward to meeting.

Yeah, no, I was so excited because Jason obviously speaks very highly of you. He's a great guy, too. Yeah, you guys are so cute. BFFs, yeah. But yeah, I'm like, he goes, well, I think he's going to, like, try and, like, throw me out of the bus for a couple things. I'm like, I hope he does. Like, I want dirt. Would we be friends if I didn't?

No. And I wouldn't be throwing him under the bus. I'm just going to just tell the truth. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. He can hang. He can do more than hang. I mean, he likes to come off.

Like, you know, this put together, but I'm like, like, I'll try and ask him things on the podcast. And he's like, oh, well, how do I answer this? Like, he's already rubbing off on you. I noticed on your Instagram, you're starting to have his lingo, too, like chirping. That was my lingo. Was it? Yes.

I thought it was the first time I heard chirping was from Jason. No, okay, but that's fair because it's a very Canadian thing. Okay. So my, like, I've been saying, the Buffalo connection. Yes. And that's actually something that attracted me to Jason is that he said, he talked like me yeah so i always say chirp i we say the same things all the time and nobody else gets it and we're like yeah he's like an honorary canadian yeah and i said chirp even on

the show people i remember tweeting me being like what does chirp mean i had to ask him too i was like what do you mean by chirp it's a canadian like hockey thing yeah yeah okay confess wait so this is a confession not for you it's for jason no this is i'm involved heavily in this one as well amazing um so last on On Bachelorette, we were getting ready to go tape the women to law. Yeah. And at that time, we had known because Jason and I were good friends with Blake, or with Blake and Garrett, we knew that Garrett obviously was with Becca.

Right. So we sort of all message each other. And after the taping of women to law, we went and crashed their happy couple. Jason and I did. Becca and Garrett's. Or Becca and Garrets, yes. Yeah. So we get there.

And, like, the running joke for the whole season is I don't drink very often. Yeah. And when I do it's wine. And when you do it's on off the vine? Yes. And they try to get me drunk. Which is what I'm doing. I have never been more drunk in my life.

What? Their happy couple. And they were, like, they were shotgunning beers and I don't drink beer. So I was shotguning wines, kelpcake. Wow. Cupcake wine to be specific. So, but keep in mind. So after we crashed our happy couple, there was my first big approved red carpet event to go to

with Jason and I get to the carpet and I am so drunk that I had to be pulled off of the carpet because Jason and Garrett and Becca all got me so wasted at their happy couple. I was throwing up in the Uber on the way to the red carpet to walk it and Jason couldn't do press at the time because he was still on the show so he had to like go straight into the party so like I was he was like wingman of the year trying to keep me like he's like he was like hyping me up he's like bro just get it all out right now you're good we're going to walk this car we're going to kill it here we go like he was like he was like he was like like my height man he is that's what he is he's like a motivational speaker hype man meanwhile i'm in the

back of a toy at a prius just like vomiting but he's like he's like he's like he's like you're going to pull this together you're going to be great like we're going to kill this red carpet together what did you think when you're shotgunning wine did you think you would hold it down i had no clue i was like honestly with with them it was such a good time and i actually learned for in that moment i need to let loose a little more often yeah you do yeah you ain't living unless you let loose Yeah. So. I have a sneaky story about my happy couple weekend because it is, I mean, it's so hard to navigate that world when you come off the show and you're like, why do I have to hide?

I'm so happy. I just want to be with somebody. And then you're like stuck in this house when you're like, I've already been stuck in filming and no phone. And now you're like, finally with this person and you're in this house. And the producers do let you like, you know, they're not there the whole time. And so Sean and I Googled nearest wig shop. and it was like point one like we're like that's like meant to be there's a wig shop around the corner and so we went and got wigs and we went out on the town

during our happy couple week yeah we like I had a blonde wig he had like a dark wig and we had sunglasses and it was so much fun and they know now like they I mean at the end of the day you're a human being and like they know you're not going to be perfect to do everything that they need you to do um but yeah so it's like i i don't know if i would know or not i don't know if i'm having those weekends oh so i don't know i don't know what you're talking about too much wait a second here i saw in the the last preview now this is going to air this podcast will air after wait how do i even word this the denver episode we're a week early recording this but when it comes out people will already have seen the next yes after the denver episode and so

So on the one that I just saw, they show this empty ring box, which they're trying to get in people's heads. Because I'm like, you know, how many times do you see on a preview where they show something and it doesn't actually play out on the next episode? So I'm like, are they trying to get in our heads? Why do we see somebody crying in a limo? Why is there an empty ring box? Like, what is the play here? What's happening? There was a lot in that teaser.

There's a lot. It's just a lot to take in. Uh-huh. And I'm like very confused. as I think everybody else is. Do you even know what's going to play out? Honestly, I'm sort of confused and I lived it. Yeah, right.

I mean, there's parts of it that, you know, like, what goes into filming some of those days. Well, that's, here's the thing. I remember when there was three guys left and they asked me about the three guys. What do you love about them and what worries you about them? Yep. So that they had both options. They had, we're talking about like my ex-boyfriend at one point because they knew I was like really heartbroken by that.

And they're like, could that be a storyline? Like, they need all angles of everything. So to me, I'm watching that. And I'm like, okay, well, when I was talking about Nick, Sean and Ben, okay, well, I love this about Ben. Here's what concerns me. I love this about Nick. Here's what concerns me.

Same thing with Sean. Now, they only show what concerned me with Sean and what I love about Nick. Yep. So that people are like, wow, she really loves Nick and she's questioning Sean. But really, they just need options in different angles. So my question is, did you? you do B-roll with the ring in the box and without? There were lots of takes.

Okay. And my whole thing is like, rings aren't meant to stay in boxes. I mean, they're meant to be on fingers. Yeah, so maybe it was on a finger and not in the box at the time. There was a lot that went into that day. Right. It was a little crazy. But going off back to what you just said, I actually really enjoyed that part of it of like talking

through feelings about different relationships because it also gave me a perspective. do that. Yeah. And when you say something out loud, it's so much different than when you say in your head, when you say, you're like, oh, that's why I am the way I am or that's why I view this relationship the way I view it because of this experience in my past. I had so many of those realizations throughout this season. It was crazy. It's so true. I was saying on another, I had a self-love coach on my podcast and we were talking about like feeling your feelings. And like, to be honest, I was always trying to be such a tough guy through my life. Like I was like, feelings are dumb. Like I'm just going to bottle. them up because I'm a tough guy and then I got on the show and I remember talking to the producers and being like you're not going to get me to cry like I don't cry I'm not going to like be that girl and then like a couple hours in I'm like sobbing and I've never grown so much in my life as going through that show because when else do you talk about like the pros and cons of how you're feeling and talk through it for every single day for weeks yes that's what you're doing you're just like that's what I said the most out of this is going from show to show to show

The amount of growth, it's life-changing. It is. It's life-changing. But I was the same way, Bachelorette. I was like, I'm not crying. And I didn't. Right. And then I remember Paradise happened and I got home.

And it wasn't that I was concerned that my dad would judge me or my family would judge me. I just, like, gave him a warning. I was like, hey, just want to give you a heads up. Like, I was a little more emotional. That's exactly how I said it. Because it's tough for a family to see that too. Right. And my dad called me after the night of Paradise where I cried.

And he's like, dude, you didn't tell me you cried like that. And I was like, sorry. like immediately I was like oh sorry I should have warned him more and he's like that he's like broke my heart to see like that so like it probably did something for your dad too it did and like one thing I've been very open about is like going through all of this changed my relationship sort of with my dad in a way because we've always had this unique relationship where it's always been more business and coaching mentality and like now it's more letting him in on my personal life and him checking in and more of my family instead of

saying how's football or what are you doing in your career so like how are you doing how are you feeling isn't that it's so nice it is nice i try because i mean i came off the show and i was really bitter yeah because i felt like i got well i you know what i feel like everybody in some way you know you're manipulated it's just it not in i mean they're good at their job yes and it's you know we we sign up for it and that whole thing but like i felt really manipulated after my season yeah and so i was bitter for a long time and then i realized how to look at the situation instead of being mad about it. I was like, wait, I grew so much as a person in that time. And it's given me such an amazing platform. And I can now look at it from a different place and a different,

through different lenses. Like, I'm like, okay, this did really great things for me. And even though my relationship didn't work out, it led me to a different one. And I'm like, well, everything's just like, this is amazing. And I think it just takes time. But I think you have a better mentality than I did coming out of it because you kind of are already recognizing that. And I think it's a really good thing for guys. Like, girls are known to kind of feel their feelings a little more than guys. And for guys to go through that show, some people can either shut down and be mad about it. And some people can appreciate the process and what it can do for you.

And I feel like you have a good outlook on what it's done for you. 100%. I think one thing that it has a balance, right? I like breaking the fourth wall. And what that means is, like, I like showing what it is. is in its entirety yeah I think one thing that people get confused is you'll see me every Tuesday I'll retweet the ratings I want my show I want my show to be number one yeah of course everything that I do everything that I touch I take pride in right and it's that's

that's just who I am but I think people get this misconception like I'm not dumb I know I'm filming a TV show yeah I love the fact that I was filming the TV show I love the TV aspect of it yeah that doesn't mean that I you can't find a relationship just because you're focused on that no of course and people have to realize like Like, now, we filmed four months ago. Yeah. Who cares if my, like, right now, if I'm tweeting about the ratings because that happened. It's not.

It's in the past. Everybody's like, well, you should be focused on your relationship. And it's like, or your relationships at the time because you're living in this time warp. And it's like, they're not mutually exclusive. Right. Just because you care about ratings doesn't mean you don't care about love in your relationship. It's like, it's a fine balance. Because people do, I mean, we all know from going on the show, people have their opinions about it.

But people really think that's in real time. Yeah. And that's why it's nice to have a platform like a social media, like Instagram and Twitter and to be able to like, like you said, break down that fourth wall. Okay, everybody, listen up. I have an exciting new sponsor that's doing something totally revolutionary with birth control access in the U.S. And well, it's about damn time. Someone did.

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or gynecologist. Was that your idea to do the... I love my confessional camps. Everybody... Okay, I questioned them. I have mixed emotions or mixed reviews socially, and you're one of them that doesn't like them, right? Okay, but I came around today.

Okay. Today, because a couple of people had commented on it, and I'm like, you know what? It is a little more intimate, and, like, I'm like, okay. Okay, it's, it's more you. Like, when you're in an interview situation, you know, you're being interviewed and someone's asking you and it's very produced. And for you to do, like, I feel like we see like, I don't know, you just seem comfortable. Not that you seem uncomfortable in any other situation, but you seem very comfortable when you're just taking the video on yourself. I think people don't like change.

I don't have, all right, they don't like change. And that's what threw me up. And the bachelor's been so consistent over the years of what it is. It's very, it's a format. People don't get it. In your ITMs, you have a camera. operator you have an audio guy and you have one or two producers sitting in on that so yes it's a safe space but you still have people there for me i just pull up the camera and i talk i all of for the

most part like you guys see the snippets of them most of my confessions are anywhere from five to 12 minutes really yes i just sit there and talk i ramble sometimes like i literally talk to post production and so i found out the name of one of the guys in the post department and i like shout them out every video but um it's like little things like that i just talk and i took it on the beach on my run one day and I like I just vented as I walked in it was it's so emotionally satisfying to yeah it's like therapeutic because they you know even if you go off on like how you feel in one relationship or you're a little more extreme than what you should be yeah they just cut it they're not gonna play that you're not gonna spoil their own show by me on my

confession camp you got to benefit a little bit from being on a few shows before going on because I was so naive I was like I was on bachelor and I was like wow this is like the best experience ever and then I went into Bachelorette being like I didn't get any other side of it until the end like talk about your fence jump like if they would have showed what you know like they're just they exposed different things

with mine it was obviously like yours is the whole virgin thing mine was like sex scandal like Caitlin had sex it was this crazy thing and so they make these big deals about that but I'm like if they would have showed my breakdown at the end like I would have jumped a fence too like I would have like I just

remember like sobbing and like flipping off the camera guys and being like get out of my face i was just so over it by the end because you get to a point where your feelings are stronger than the show than the show a hundred percent and so you're like you can't fight that and you can't like put that you can't play the game anymore i hit a camera like if i had any regrets on the season it was definitely hitting the camera just because that's a little over the top but anyway it was one of those things first one no it's like it's just like one of those moments that's bigger than the show itself it's like get the cameras away from me like i need to focus on me as a human being for a second

yeah but that's real yeah because you can i always say you got to play the game you have to that's part of if you're a contestant if you're the lead whatever you know like you're talking to producers you know you got to play the little game and you're still being real and you're still having real emotions but you also know what you got to you got to do what you got to do um and that's by the end of it i think like we said it's just it becomes stronger than you and you're like, I'm done. I'm done. And I always want to know what was on the other side of that fence.

Like, people are so focused on how good the jump was. And I'm like, but what happened on the other side? Did you fall? Did you hurt yourself? Did you run? What were you doing on the other side of that fence? Honestly, it's like one of those things like I can elaborate on it, but taking it out of context is sort of going to put it in a weird place.

But I will say I thought I was going to jump that fence and there was going to be production vans and people and like a tent with food. You know how like, you know how they're going to be. the coffee and snacks i thought for sure i was going to like fall into like the snack tent but there was nothing it was just darkness i yeah and i loved it you're like oh my gosh i was like yeah freedom freedom it's true it's like you broke out of jail and you were just like now what that's hilarious i can't i mean i'm really excited to see the whole that's like the hype like the fence is a big i'm does the fence have its own twitter account yet i don't know i think i think

I got tagged in one does Colton jump the fence this episode Twitter like and it's just like nope tune in next week nope tune in next week that's only tweets that's so funny I'm just so curious because they it is and I will say this as much as I'm being playful

with it and even teasing it on Twitter it is a very pivotal it is serious it's one of those it's one of those that we're just talking about I'm in a time warp now so now I could look back and sort of make fun of it a little make light of it yeah because it's easier to do but in the moment it was heavy it was heavy the next day it was heavy for a few days it took a while before we even made the first joke about it where chris was like you know i tried to jump the fence did you know that and i was like no you did i was like please tell me they filmed it so oh my gosh did it please tell me that will be in the bloopers i hope it's in the it's in the bluepers they didn't show this part on tv but they showed it in the bloopers when it was just the men tell all for me they showed me biting my toenails what yeah get your

in your mouth? Oh, yeah. I was a dancer my whole life. Oh, okay. Yes. You have flexibility. Yeah. I was like I remember doing it too. I obviously had had a few cocktails and we were bored and I was waiting for something. I don't remember and I remember looking down. I'm like, I bite my toenails right now.

And I did it. And in the moment, Bennett was like, you are disgusting. Like, you're a disgusting human being. And I was like, oh, whatever. It's not like you guys are going to air this. Were you the Bachelorette? Yeah. Oh, that's probably why they didn't air it. Well, that's, they did. They did? Yes. At the Mentale all they showed it they didn't show it on TV

they just showed it in that room and I was mortified because I was like I remember doing it and being like well there's no way they're gonna show this that's like a confession of mine like Caitlin Bites or Tonyals that's gross like that's gross I'm honestly I'm trying to think if I did anything like really gross that they're going to expose me on yeah I'm like tell us

there's a couple really good bloopers that I can't wait to me because you know like as they're happening you shout out you're like blooper real make make sure you record this like Make sure you check this time mark. Of course. Yeah. Check the time mark. That's, I'm like, what are, what would people like laugh so hard to know behind the scenes

of something that happened? I talk behind the scenes on my season all the time, but what's something for you that stands out? They, so Caitlin was my producer. Yeah. And Allie and Sam. And they, during my ITMs, I would always eat rice cakes. Oh, yeah.

And I guess for their earpiece and their IFBs, the crunch was just like so loud. So every time I'd be like, in a break. In between questions, I'd like crunch one, and they're like, that is the loudest. And it finally got to a point where they're like, can you just not eat rice kicks while you do this interview? That's probably the worst snack choice you could pick for audio. 100%, but it was my go-to. Really? All right, so we were traveling so much.

Mine was beef jerky. Did you, I gained 15 pounds filming. I gained 12. Yes. Yeah. Like, it was real. I know. It's stress.

You're eating and drinking. Maybe two or three hours of sleep. Like, it's stress. It's, it does terrible things your body. People don't get like the whole filming schedule either. Like. It's intense. Yeah, and I'm big on my workout, so they're like, all right, you could either have an hour workout or an extra hour sleep.

And I'm like, I got to have my workout to keep me mentally, like, sane. Oh, I chose sleep. Really? How did you gain 15 pounds if you were still working out? Because I wasn't sleeping. So I, and then we went to Asia and all I was eating was, like, noodles and sodium water. That was me. I went to Ireland, and all I did was eat meat and potatoes and drink Guinness, like, every day.

I gained so much weight. People always comment, now they're like, ah, you're so skinny. I'm like, you just saw me at my heaviest. on TV. Did Carrie have to re-like fit anything for you? Yeah, I remember. I had to get refitted to me. I have a video on my phone of Carrie pulling and jumping me to get into a dress for the,

after the final rows. I was like jumping. I'm like, oh, my God, like, where are the spanks at? Because I couldn't get my dress over top of my gun. I had to, he wouldn't let me, he'd get mad at me when I do like pushups or chest because my upper body just blows up really quick if I start lifting again. And all my tailored shirts would not fit or bump. like the top around the neck so wait where did you guys have gone to some crazy places already

oh and it gets it gets better it does that's not even fair i know i felt so bad too because like when they first told me actually i don't even know if she said this but whatever my first my first location actually got spoiled oh it did somebody like like the first and they tried to play it off like it was just dropped it was actually um Amanda seafield from uh mean girls yeah she's a huge bachelor fan so she came and stopped by night one oh yeah and uh she's like oh my god i heard you get to go to singapore and i'm like i do oh she's filled it to you yes and then the producer's like oh no she doesn't know what she's talking about she's kidding like they tried to play it off it was like midway through the night and i was like oh that's hilarious i get to go to singapore i because i

wanted i wanted to be surprised in a lot of my things because i always said that i was the same thing yeah i looked forward to the surprises of you know what's like going to be happening yeah season but like And then they covered it up, and then I forgot about it a little bit. And then, like, immediately when they told me, I was like, oh, my God, I knew it. That's so funny. It's, I always, like, I'm, I can't complain because I still got to go on the show and traveled. But, like, I got so jipped on my seasons. We went to, like, Iowa, South Dakota.

Yeah. Can we talk about Becca's, too? Oh, where did you? Utah, Richmond, Virginia, Vegas. Yeah. Like, Vegas was cool. But, honestly, it, like, when you get put in a suite and then you don't, people don't get that. You don't get to go out on the town.

I think you go exploring. Did you find, though, as the lead, you got to do a little more, obviously, exploring? I really liked B-roll days and travel days. Yeah. Oh, see, I hated B-roll. You didn't, oh. I liked pickups. I was like, let's talk this out.

I hated B-roll. I just liked B-roll because I could just go out and actually explore. And, well, I guess you know why, because your B-roll's in Iowa. Yeah, exactly. My B-Row is in Singapore, Thailand, Vietnam so far. And we were in Ireland for three weeks, and it was so windy. And if all the girls listening, no, lip gloss and wind, the biggest bitch in the world. What happens?

It sticks. Your hair sticks to your lip gloss. And it's the most obnoxious thing. Then your hair gets all greasy. And then your lip gloss. Oh, it's the worst. And that happened to me. Everything they do is outside.

Like, they always want to do things outside. And I'm such a wimp in, like, wind. And, like, I'm Canadian. You'd think I would be okay in the cold. And I'm like, eh. And the lip gloss, I was always so angry because we were outside for everything. And, yeah, that's. I forgot where you guys went in, on Becca's season.

Where was the biggest place you went? Well, I got sent home right before Thailand. Oh, son of a bitch. So I didn't even get to go. Right. But then when they told me we were going to Thailand, I'm like, I finally get to go to Thailand now. Oh, right. Okay.

Wait, I have to talk about this just because it's going to be old news by it. But Demi is obviously a topic of conversation because she's like, what are you like? I really like Demi. In what way? As a person. She literally is like somebody. She lives her life like. a way I only can

like aspire to live mine because she's just undeniably herself like she is I'll give her that I actually like her she is true to herself 100% of the time and she does not change she doesn't change to please people that's true and I think we all could like at least appreciate that that's true we all could

learn from Demi yeah she's just like bold and confident and yeah I mean I can't like honestly I can't say enough good things about her she just wasn't obviously for me right of course of course I saw him last nice episode you're driving around a little g wagon i know that every car comes with its share of stories like my gold sunfire i used to drive around you know the ding in your bumper when you nervously picked up a first date the luxury package you got after a big promotion or the mileage you saved by

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car today. True cash offer not available in all areas. Okay, so obviously we're filming this a week earlier but um when this comes out people will know what happened last night yes so hannah b yeah tell me uh tell me your thought process on this one i i'm a hana b guy yeah yeah i am but you can convince me otherwise no no no yeah i mean i think maybe not not for you right right right okay i i can get behind that too because she she is somebody just like demi who is undeniably herself yeah i like her little like quirks and like her insecurities are also who she is like and she kind of she took me a while she all right the one thing that I thought early on is I had Hannah figured out yeah I thought she's simple I got this like she's a complex person yeah and that was like my

fault for judging and like trying to so but that's a part that's literally the point of the show is relationships and trying to get to know these people um I had an unbelievable day we went and toured and looked for homes in Denver and then she got to well that'll tell you right there if you like a person or not well yeah and then she got to me my family she couldn't see him in the seattle thing like that's like it's a thing yes yes and i think that was when i sort of had my moment of clarity that and then after spending time with my family and i i think there was a time where it's just like man i wish that and this is and this is no disrespect to her but it was like i wish that i could be introducing somebody else um and in that moment in that moment in that moment in that moment

moment it was like okay well if i'm feeling that then my feelings aren't where they should be right and isn't it so hard because you're thinking about the world watching you and like you've got all these people who have so many opinions on why aren't you keeping her and they don't know the full story but they mean it like they're like why didn't you keep this person you should have been this is who you should be with and you're like guys this is me for for me to find somebody and this is how i'm feeling like who are love that you watch the show love that you're a fan but who are you to say what I'm feeling and what my heart wants. Like, it's so hard to not rip those people apart when they're ripping you apart for how you feel and who you are.

Like, it's so different from, you know, people grow up as actors and actresses and they kind of like are playing a character on a show. We get thrown into this world, chewed up and spat out for just being who we are with no clue of like the world that we're in. Like, we don't get it. No. And you start to get certain things. things but you come out of Ben. Nobody can prepare you for this. Nobody. Even Ben, I sat down to Ben before I did Bachelor. And he almost probably didn't want to because you kind of, you can't go into overthinking. He said that too. He's like, everybody has their own experience,

but like, here's just stay true to who you are. Like, that's the best advice that you can give anybody is just stay true to who you are. Everybody has their own experience. And I have such an appreciation, and I'll go on record for this. I, when I watched Ari's season, I was like, really yeah i judged them i like i feel bad i feel and we all like that's just human nature i judge you watching yeah exactly exactly but then you realize it it's like people want to tear you down and it's it's the hardest part for me is looking at the feedback on and i i'm doing a better job of trying to like not take social media personal but okay yeah when you're talking about your personal life yeah because i played football yeah for my whole life and people would critique me

but here would be my mindset be like watch what i'm going to do next game i'm going to go prove you wrong. I'm going to make more tackles. I'm going to make more sacks and my stats are going to be better. Right. But when they're attacking and tearing you down your personal life. Exactly. You can't go change your life like that. No. You can't fix that. And you don't want to. And you don't want to because it's you. Yeah. So

that's like, I'm still navigating it. I didn't think, I didn't think about that as like an athlete too. It's the same thing. I always remember because obviously I grew up in Canada, my ex-boyfriend was a hockey player and they would get just absolutely shredded for just like their game. And it's like, well, I'm the professional. and I'm getting paid for this because it's what I'm good at.

I made it here. I work really hard for this and you're telling me how to do my job because sports fans are, you know, they're just as great as sponsor fans. In the best way, they're passionate. They're passionate. And so I didn't think of that as like an athlete. It's like, okay, well, that's like, it's my job and I can go do better next time. But when they're tearing you down for just being who you are and what you're feeling, it hurts.

100%. Yeah. And then also they like the people who do. judge like there literally are people who get paid to just tear the franchise apart yeah which is completely ass-nine to me i don't get it i don't either it's like you guys are making a career off of talking about our show but you're going to attack the people that make the show and are on i was like i'm really confused of who like what you're trying to do that's why it's so hard also to do a podcast and i'm like because it's the show is obviously easy to make fun of and you want opinions

and you want opinions you need opinion honestly i think that is one of the reasons let's to say it i think that's one of the reasons I became The Bachelor. Yeah. It's because there was people who liked me, there was people who doesn't, no matter what, you're going to be talking about me. It's very true. That is true. And I find that, like, I don't know the girls on your season, obviously,

but I'm just, I don't know if this is, like, what people want to see on TV, but I just find that people aren't being, like, complex. Like, everyone's just, like, having these, like, did you really make out with Hannah G that much or were they just only showing those parts, right? No, you saw that with Hannah G. you saw that with Cassie you see that um you you see the portrayal of of the dates which you know how it is yeah you have sit in chats you have time where you have conversations you have time where um honestly in most a lot of my favorite times were the off camera moments

too of course you're eating you're you get to eat snacks together or you get to listen to music those are the best moments but yeah you always you know how it you know what a like a full date with the filming that goes into it is you have more time you see maybe 10% in regards to like how much making out they're showing. I think it's in a way, the aspect of me being a virgin and... Well, yeah, they're focusing on your lips and

like, do we, you know, like, it's like... With the heather kiss and everything. I had close-ups of my lips. Right. But that was something that I was very candid about before I went on the season is just because your virgin doesn't mean you still can't have an intimate part of your life. I know. That's a common misconception.

And I know what I signed up for and I'm good with it. I was finding that because I know how it played out I know how it went down and I know where my relationships were at at all times on the show yeah and I mean and for people who don't know like that's a that's a full day and you have conversations and you have moments and you know they they are focusing on the the sexual part of they have a story to tell to let's let's be honest like it and it helps it would be I'm just and you could back me up on this if they showed every aspect of every day the viewers would be so confused totally so lost it's true There would be no, there would be literally no flow to the show because it's a mess. Relationships are messy. Yeah. Let's just be real. That's true.

Do you wish the show, for me, I wish they showed a little more mess? 100%. That's also why I take so much pride in, like, wanting my show to be successful or wanting the Bachelor. I shouldn't keep saying my, wanting the Bachelor. My season of The Bachelor to be so successful is because I lived those moments with the camera operators, the audio mixers. I know how hard they work. They leave their families. They leave their families to go on the road with us.

The producers don't sacrifice relationships and friendships. I had an interview one time that was two hours long with my, it was literally two of my producers, a camera operator and audio mixer. We had a conversation for two hours. The majority of the questions, while the producers were doing their job, the majority of the questions came from the camera operator and the audio mixer. They were that invested in it. They do. They get very invested. And they care.

It meant the world to me. Like I literally at the end of the show had camera operators. and the audio guys tearing up. Yeah, yeah. And that, like, for me to see that made me emotional because it's like they're missing like their kids' birthdays and moments in life to be there for your like love story. 100% and they're on like that's like what people don't get is they are on this ride with us. So why not say I want my show nominated for anything it can get?

I know. Because I want to honor those people. I try to. I think that's a big part of why I stopped being so bitter because I had such a deep conversation with Harrison about so much of that stuff. Like, I would be so mad at the petty shit. Yeah. Why wasn't I on Dancing with the Stars?

Well, like, because I felt personally attacked. And then I remember I got asked by, um, which is funny because Lauren Zima, who is now Chris Harrison's girlfriend. But she asked me, we were talking about like the times of like, you know, last season with the Me Too movement and like certain things. And she was like, what do you think about like the show in these times? Like, and I said, yeah, it might be time for the show to like wrap it up, like be done. And then I thought about it for a second And I said, actually, I take that back Because I enjoy watching it

And like, I'm very grateful for what it's gotten me And I said all the stuff, but what do you think the headline was? So the headline comes out and it's Caitlin thinks the Bachelor show should end And Harrison, of all people, didn't read the article, just read the headline. And he sent me a screenshot and he goes, really, Caitlin? Like all these people that worked so hard and left their families and like have kids and all these people, hundreds of people that are just there for you, you want them to be out of a job?

It puts things in perspective. And I went, first of all, you didn't listen or read. You just read the headline, shame on you, because I took it back. Clickbait. Yeah, they got you. Because I took it back because, and that is a reason why I have a different outlook on it because I'm like, that's fair. Like, as hard as things, it's very hard on the lead and the contestants.

But it's also hard on the production and on the crew and everybody. They are great family. They are. I'm so grateful to. And I'm actually very appreciative. And while this year was tough at times because I bounced from Bachelorette to Paradise Street in a bachelor. I had the same crew for the most part. So I really got to know these guys on first name basis, these guys and gals.

And it made my experience that much more enjoyable because I got to know them on travel days. I got to know them when we were eating lunch. taking our lunch breaks. And it means a lot to them too because I think some people come into that show and feel above them and above it and I think it probably means

a lot to them when people can take the time to like actually... To get to know them as people and not just like someone's standing and holding a camera because that's the last thing that they are.

Right. And they care. Like, think about it. They go on this journey with people every like three times a year. Right. I would be like, I'd be emotionally messed up if I was okay.

I'd be like, I'd be like chime in now. I'd be like, don't do it. I know. The best is like because they, And they pay attention. Yeah, they do you remember in Paradise when you had this conversation with this person?

It's like, I was like, oh, no, but you do? But thank you for reminding me. Okay. I see where you're going at this. Think of the conversations they must have when they go home from their day at work. Oh, my gosh. The juice that they have. Okay, we're going to take a mid-show break and we're going to talk about where I would like to go.

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with Caitlin Bristow. With the show now, like obviously people know going into it that they're going to become somewhat recognizable. And I don't know, famous is the right word on Instagram. But, like, Instagram is, like, its own level of fame, you know?

They're creating, the show creates monsters. Right. Oh, absolutely. Yeah. I know a few. But do you, did you see that as the, I know your concern was, like, people being there, quote, unquote, the wrong reasons, that whole thing.

But, like, that's, that was a fear, I think, of every lead that goes into it. You were like, are these people actually hear from me? Like, what do they want out of it? this but do you see a whole other side of it now with social media yeah but see that's another thing that I agree can't be that's not mutually exclusive right I don't mind if you understand what you're getting yourself into like I signed up I'm going to let you know I signed up for Bachelorette to have a fun time yeah to give it a shot and like I knew at the end of it I'm probably going to have a platform and it's going to be a fun time traveling and experience and falling in love is just a bonus on top

if you fall in love it's like I said this I did a TEDx doc not a big deal And, and I said on it, I was like, you know, they're like, did you go on to find love or build a brand? I was like, no, I went to build a brand. Like, of course I did. Like, people are shocked when like, they're just like, oh, he's, he's fame hungry. And it's like, no, I'm aware of what I'm doing. I know what I'm doing. It takes a brave person to give yourself this kind of platform as well.

Like, it's not everybody can do it. And same thing with like, it's a blessing and a curse. Like you were, you're able to have like really important conversations on the show and bring awareness to certain things which translates into social media now where people can reach out and say hey that happened to me too thank you for having that conversation on this show and bringing awareness to it and social media can be such a beautiful thing in that way where people can come together and not feel alone so it's like it doesn't have to be looked at as such a negative thing but i think with your group of girls people are really and i'm guilty of it too

going towards the age thing yeah but harrison said to me he goes jojo is 24 when she was a bachelor, and I was like, oh, well, damn. Well, and that's what everybody's like, he's so young. You know, Ben Higgins was 26 when he came too, right? Right, right. So it's like, okay. And I'm guilty of the age thing because, but I will always back myself up and say, it was my own personal experience.

I was just a degenerate in my 20s. I was like, I didn't know what the hell I want. But that's all people, and I'm actually, this is one thing I realized this year. You can only speak from your experiences in life. Yeah. So until you get to know somebody and what they've been through, you can't judge them or care about what they're, opinions are because that's their experience.

That's what they, that's what's built them into who they are. So, like, you could only speak on your, on your experiences. When you were 26, you might not have been ready. I feel like at 26, I'm, I'm completely ready. Right. I shouldn't say, like, I guess I should rephrase that. I have a lot of room to grow, but I'm at a point in my life where I want to be engaged. I want to be married.

I want to be a dad. I want to be happy. Like, that's the point in my life where I'm at. And I will say that that is true happiness. us. Instagram is fun, but like finding a life partner and a family

and like I think you those are things that you want out of life. Some people, you know, that's not for them. I'm the same way. Like, I want a family.

I want to get married. And that's like what I'm striving for in life. Instagram is fun. The same thing with like going into it. You're allowed to go into it with being like, cool. It's an opportunity.

I'm going to, I'm going to have some platform. You have a charity. Your own charity. Yes. That's an amazing opportunity for you to raise money and awareness for your charity. I just spoke at a gala in Pennsylvania, and that's something that I said, as I said, I had such a small platform when I was on the practice squad of NFL teams, but I was still making the most of that small platform.

And I probably spent too much time, focused more on my platform that I did my career. That's why I never stepped on the field in the regular season. But yeah, but the fact that that was what I was passionate about, and you can't blame my passions. I fell out of love with football. I fell out of love with the sport. And good for you, that you recognize that and went after something else. It took me a while. I had a, like, I had a really bad one year.

I battled depression and anxiety. People don't, like, people don't know that. But, like, when you have a crutch in life, football was my crutch. That was my out. That was, like, the way that, um, anything going wrong, I could just be, okay, I'm going to go get two workouts in today. Or I'm going to focus on football more. I didn't have that safe anymore.

Because that became your identity as well. Right. And that's what you have to remember as being the bachelor that this can't be your identity. And Ben Higgins has told me that numerous times. He said, let this enhance your life. Do not let it define you. Wow. That's great advice.

I'm telling you, Ben is like the godfather of the bachelor. He is. I just adore him. I really do. I felt the same way. Like, I feel very fortunate to have been in the place in my life where when I went into that show, I genuinely was like, I of course wanted to build the brand, but I genuinely was ready.

Yeah. So that's, you're allowed to do both. And that was my one thing. I was like, I will not come out of this show. and have my closest friends and family who mean the world to me and I've had the same circle of friends for so long, I will not have them say,

that wasn't you. Like, I want to come out of it and have them be like, that was exactly who you are. You found this person. Like, I don't consider my relationship with Shauna Failure. I don't.

I think that was like a successful relationship that, you know, like I grew from it, I learned from it. And it led you to where you're out today. And it timing's everything. And now I'm in a place where I'm like, oh, this is why this all happened. And that's what people need to remember is that you're going through your own journey.

Everybody has their own path. This is yours. So it's really hard. This show is, again, so easy to poke fun at. And I do it. We all do it in podcast content. And it's, you know, it's. But at the end of the day, you're doing what's right for you and what makes you happy.

And if that pisses people off, who cares? Because why would you, they would hate you even more if you were doing something fake and And you're going to hate yourself for doing it. Like that was something I realized when my parents divorced. I was bitter at the beginning. And I finally realized who am I to judge whether or not my parents are happy or not? Right. Am I really that selfish that I want them to stay together so I could have this image of a perfect family?

I did that too. And sacrifice their happiness. So like the people who are like, oh, you shouldn't have done that. It's like, no, that was what was best for me in the moment. And that was what was best for my parents. And now they're both happy and in new relationships. Exactly. That's same with my parents.

Like, I remember I wouldn't let my mom date after my parents. I was like, no, you will sit on that couch and you will not move because I don't want another guy in my life. I remember my stepdad now, who I adore him now. I love him. And at the time he came in and my mom and him were on a date and he came in and I was such a little bitch. And I was old too. Like I was too old to be being this immature. I was, I don't know how old.

In my 20s. And he came in and he, he's going to kill me for saying this. He had frosted tips. That's a red flag That's a red flag That's what I'm seeing And so my mom Brings him home

And he was I was like you're not staying over tonight And he was like no I've got a hotel And I was like okay And then my mom said Caitlin you take this seriously And I said how do I take a guy With frosted tips seriously

Oh you went there I did I did and it like right to the jugular Like he looked at me Did he cut the frosted tips? Never again Never again had frosted tips Good for you though

I mean, come on. I mean, frosted tips, it was, I had frosted tips at one point. Well, I mean, but in high school probably. In grade school. What's grade school? This is Canadian me coming out. I'm like, what's in... Great school for me was we kindergarten through eighth grade.

Oh, well, then you're fine. Yeah, what do you guys call it? Middle school? Elementary? Elementary, junior high, high school. I'm Illinois, so like, like Midwest type of guy. So I would just call a grade school. Yeah.

I'm with the central grade school. Oh, yeah. we elementary junior high also when people are like freshman that whole thing i'm like freshman sophomore junior senior i don't get it what do you guys do nine grade 10 10 11 12 yeah and and you guys say 10th grade we say grade 10 oh really yeah yeah canada's like same same only different yeah yeah kev had some weird things too yes Kevin had some weird things in paradise he's very canadian he is super canadian yeah like people one of the nicest guys speaking of which i still need to text him back who Kevin oh my

It's been a crazy week. But one of the nicest guys, most genuine, like, I developed a really good friendship with him over, over Paradise. Oh, Kevin. Kevin. I really like Canadian, Kevin. Well, Canadians are just... Good people.

They really are. I really trust... I see, like, I have faith in humans in general, but Canadians get, like, an extra bonus points for me. I agree. Like, there's just something about Canadians where I'm like, I'll poke fun. I'll chirp. I'll do the whole thing.

But I, like, mean well. Like, I really mean well. And I'm like, I would not. ever do anything malicious to anybody i really wouldn't who did you pick here we go tell me everything i'm only one glass in so i know i'm like do you need more wine no um well you're lucky i got a drive you know i'm a lightweight oh yeah yeah okay i don't want you puking in a two two glasses have me in the class or the newspapers whatever not like i almost said classifieds like i'm going to pit myself out bachelor for sale i'm like what does that mean you're single

what's happening you can't so you can't tell all right I have two things about this one obviously contractually I can't say I can't say we signed a contract but two like I do take

sort of a sense of pride in the seat like I just like you know how there's people who spoil the season like me well yeah but there's spoilers the spoilers that are out there are wrong right they were wrong on my season too so why would I

try to like why would I slip up confirm something that's like already messed up i don't know i just i like i did i like to play yeah you did on snapchat right yeah i blew it all i deleted snapchat off my phone very smart yes very smart decision um but instagram it's been still a thing but okay so you can't i hate the question are you because of course you are what would you would you be like no i'm miserable yeah right coming in i obviously had a good relationship with the executive producers all the producers i went through bachelorette i've been on that side of things and went through Paradise where I wasn't dumb.

Like, I knew, like, my storyline with Tia, what we had was going to be the main focus. Of course. Because, I mean, everybody, that's all everybody on that beach wanted to talk about. Right. Like, come on. Yeah, I don't even think it was Paradise. It was the Tia Colvin Show. Paradise was my personal hell.

I will go on record and say that. It was not Paradise for me. I want to, like, I want to go back and actually, like, just enjoy Paradise at some point. Hang on the beach. Yeah. But I went into my season thinking I had it. I thought I had it all figured out. I thought I knew the game, right?

And that's, I had a big ego check. Like, I got humbled. I got humbled big time where I was just like, all right, I'm going to do this, this, and this. This is how The Bachelor should do things. I had watched seasons before. So I'm like, okay, this is what I need to say. This is what I need to do. I'm still working on myself.

I'm coming in. You literally are watching me go through this and grow as a human being and like realize, oh, shit. Like, I don't have this all figured out. Which I really like that you said on that. last episode how you were like I don't have the answers like that's that was such a real moment because you don't like and and did it play out the way you thought it would no yeah I'll say this like you think you want one thing and then you come like you are continue to grow throughout the season and you realize like what you want what you need yeah um it's change everything changes yeah

it really does and like there is no you start it and you start and I don't don't know if you're guilty of this too, but like you have an idea coming and you're so excited to be the bachelor or bachelor at where you're just like, I can't wait to get down on one knee. I can't wait to be engaged. I can't wait to be married. I can't wait to have kids. Like you get so excited that you put the cart before the horse. And then all of a sudden you're like, oh, but I have to like take these steps in these

relationships. And then it throws off your whole game. 100%. Because you don't think you're going to have the feelings that you do. You don't think good or bad. You don't know. Not even the feelings. Just like I even remember going through it.

And there was times I felt dirty. Yeah, yeah. Oh, tell me about it. Where you're going, bouncing from one makeout sesh to another. Which in, in, you know, that world, that's so normal. Yeah. But it feel, it never feels right. Okay.

And the other thing that I struggled with was the group dates. And in particular, like, in, like specifically, you're sitting there and you're having time with somebody. I'm, I feel like I do a really good job of. getting invested in the conversation and I never had the proper amount of time to digest the conversation because as soon as you get as soon as I got stolen to go talk or got asked to go talk with somebody else I couldn't process that conversation and store it the way I wanted to store it because I was right back emotionally invested into the new conversation so I couldn't process it and remember everything that I wanted to compartmentalize the like different relations

and different conversations yeah that makes sense because I was so trying I was trying to say as soon as the other person sat down, I'm locked in. Yeah. But then once I get locked in, I'm like, oh, crap. Which is a good characteristic to have. Right. I was like, was her dog's name, Ralph or Larry? I was like, wait, did she tell me she had a dog?

Or did she have a cat? And I'm like, oh, boy. Who dates that many people at once? I know. And then everybody's just like, oh, I can't believe. I was like, have you ever dated 30 people at one time? Look, I said that on my men tell all. Don't give me advice.

Some guy, like, got mad at me for something. And I said, you know what? You try and date that many people at once and not make any mistakes. right nobody's going to do that you're going to make mistakes every week so like even like even like one of the girls on my on the first night was like do you remember my name i'm like you are evil i was like you like i knew there was going to be one person who did that and how would you remember 30 women and their names you i know and they had some difficult names there was a few yeah you have a multi-syllable names yeah well i mean my question to you is is there anything and

And you know what's funny is I actually hated when people ask me this and I'm about to do. Did you have any, like, big regrets on the show? I think we were talking about earlier. Like, the only regret I have is that I think I took too far was hitting the camera. Yeah. That would be my only thing. All right. Do I have regrets?

I have a million. I'm not going to give you. I can't. Like, honestly, I, but like, that's life. If we had, like, I could tell you what I regretted from earlier today. But what's the point of living like a perfect life? Like, you're going to have regrets in everything you do. The mistakes that you make.

actually help you in the end if you think about it because I always said this with the whole Nick and Sean thing for me. I talked to Nick before my season started and then coming out of it, I'm like, thank God he came on my season. I would have been thinking about him after. And I really got there with him to the point where I was like, oh, I actually don't have the feelings I thought I did for him. And it took me going too far to realize that. And it took me making mistakes to realize how much I felt for somebody else. Because I was like, ooh, this doesn't feel right.

I don't feel good about this. But it took me doing those things to get there. And so that's, I mean... Can I ask you? Did they give you off camera time with anybody? Nick, only Nick. Okay. Yeah.

It was a little bit of off camera time with Jared. But it was, they were very strict about my off camera time. And I see why they do it. Because if something gets said or done in off camera and then it comes back and you're thrown off, it's really confusing to the viewer. Because this was like, okay, then what happened in this relationship that we didn't see? And that's why they started doing, they brought the cameras to the morning after fantasy suites.

They did that first on my season because Becca, who is the virgin on my season of my season, Chris Sol season, something shifted in their relationship after the fantasy suite. And people were so confused by it because in the morning they had this deep conversation or something was like, something shifted. And so the viewers were. very confused, what happened. Right. So then I thought they were just screwing me on. I was like, why are you coming to my morning after?

You're like already making me the sexual bachelorette. Why are you? And then I was like, okay, they actually are because people need it to make sense. Yes. And I screwed up because I snuck out of my hotel room one night on the season. And I knew that all the guys were staying at the floor below me. Yeah. And it was four in the morning.

And you know how they keep the hotel, the doors open so that production or whoever handlers can get in and out? I went into every room being like, huh, who's in this one? Quick make out in that one. Who's in this one? Oh, yeah. I was just like, and then I sat in a room with Sean and Ben,

and we talked for like four hours, the three of us. And Ben, bless his heart, told on me. Really? Yeah. So then the, I mean, people were pissed at me, which makes sense now. Yes. But I'm like, God, I'm just like a human. I felt so alone.

and I was like, I knew they were all below me. I just wanted to hang. Like, I always consider myself one of the guys. So you and Becca are the same on that. Because Becca was always like, I just want to hang with the guys. I got to a point where the breeders like, don't, can't go that way. All the girls are over there when we're traveling. I was like, okay, thanks for telling me because the last thing I want to do is go hang out with all the girls right now.

Because here's the thing. You guys can be flirty, playful, and fun. Yeah. If guys go do that, you look like a douchebag. You look like a player. So like you can't, it's one of those things like, I struggled with big time because I think also my relationships with each of the women were so different.

Yeah. I had a playful. I had a fun banter with one woman. I was deep with another. Yeah. I was cute with an, and that's not me changing who I am. That's just a dynamic of our relationship. I'm a chameleon, okay?

I adapt to. I adapt. Whoever that person is, I'm like, oh, you're really fun and flirty. I'm going to be fun and flirty. You're really deep and serious. I'm going to be that way with you. Yeah. I am a total chameleon, but that's a skill.

100%. Yeah. Don't fault yourself. for that that's but it's actually it's actually fun to do and it's a good it's a good skill to have yeah because then you learn more about yourself you're like oh i actually like enjoy being this type of person this makes me happy yeah you realize that you have more layers to you than you thought you're like wow you learn new things about your stuff you're like man i'm actually happy being this type of person why am i not like this more often yeah so i have one one other question i wanted to ask about the

first kiss with heather yes were you so drunk no oh Because, oh boy. You're like, what, no. I was watching it, and there's something after you guys were standing on the beach. And I was like, he is either drunk or high because you literally, your eyes were like, oh, when I was staring off. Yeah. I was waiting for the fireworks to go off. Oh, so you knew that was coming.

I knew the fires. Of course you did. That's, we all know. Yeah. So, like, I was waiting for the fireworks because then, like, that's the, like, if we were going to have our moment and I was judging off of like, taking. You must have so nervous, though. Um A first kiss?

No After our dinner conversation I wasn't Oh okay I wasn't that I wasn't that I actually really liked Heather Yeah Yeah

Wait oh yeah This is airing after Tuesday Yeah Oh okay Yeah I'm sorry I was like Oh she's not your one I was like do I talk about

Heather in the present or the past Oh wait is she not gone yet from this last one No she's gone And it's not gonna make sense to you But like I give her a final kiss goodbye too Oh I say goodbye to her with a final kiss and she gets on a train and goes away.

Wait, that's so romantic. But, like, Heather, yeah, Heather's a good person. Yeah, I really liked her. At first, it was like, this girl. And then after I was like, no, I kind of like her. Yeah. This is where the connections really start to happen. You know how everybody comes in the house.

You're like, I want to be besties. I want, like, I want to get along. I had one point where a girl came to steal me and then they realized it was another girl. And they were like, oh, my God, it's you. You could have more time. I'm like, what? Yeah. I was like, hold on.

Whoa, whoa, whoa. Becky Tilly and I would do that. We would be like, you can have this and, like, you give me a signal when you're ready for me to come in. Like, we were, like, friends about it. I had two of the girls go, I love you, and they hugged it before they transferred to me. I'm like, this is so weird. It's the weirdest. But I was like, I'm sort of here for it.

Yeah, I mean, it's great. It really helps you out. But that's, that's so funny. Here's my next question. Can we do a part two? A part two of what? Podcast. Like, after.

Yeah. Like, we'll get Jason in. Jason, me my co-host. 100%. We'll do, like, a fun. lighthearted with either you pick some one or you don't who knows this is the this is the terms okay we need cupcake wine oh yeah of course shotguning no I'm not having you barf no I'm kidding we're gonna train you on the cupcake wine you got to like when is part two is part two after

this season yeah oh 100% let's do it yeah yeah no and then part three is when you have no contract done I don't know when that's gonna be um also my favorite thing is is when you're ready to send somebody home and they're like you're in the breakup how great is it to say can i walk you out because it's like you're like way to end it you're like all right well can i walk you out because then you're like goodbye i know i actually like i was guilty of being a little too cut throat yeah where they were just like uh that that was a quick breakup i'm like well yeah we're breaking up right i'm literally looking at a couch full of girls with eight like eight relationships that i'm really invested in yeah of course it's

This is going to be a quick one. But yeah, I don't know. That's funny. Okay. Now, my last thing is we're going to play a little game. Okay. It's the name association game, which I'm sure people have played with you before. But it's just like in general, bachelor people.

It's not all necessarily your people, okay? Okay. So first thing that comes to your mind, Demi. Bold. I like that. Yeah. You can't elaborate. It's just one word answer.

Okay. There was the same answer that I gave on Ellen. Oh, really? We did the same game, but we did the name game, but we should. She had pictures of the girls, so it makes sense. That's why I bold came to mine. Okay. God, I love Ellen.

She's my whole pass. She is. Yeah. She's my whole pass. Wait. Who's your celebrity crush? You really want to know this? Yeah.

Jennifer Hanniston. But here, get this. I love that. Like, she's like girl next door, sweet. I know. And I feel so bad. So Kimmel text me last week. She watches, right?

She watches. It was just her birthday. Kimmel invited me to her birthday party at his house. for dinner. And I had a charity event. Nuh. Okay, you know what that says a lot about you? I said no.

You chose charity over your celebrity hall pass. I did, but I made a big deal about it to my family. I'm like, well, of course. I just want to show you. I was like, uh, I got it. Hopefully there's other opportunities. I'll never forget Kimmel saying that to me. He's like, we have watching parties and Jennifer Aniston and Justin Timber like coming.

I was like, I told Kimmel and I was like, next time I'm in. Yeah. For sure. Oh, that's funny. Oh, I like that's your celebrity crush. I'm trying to like, like, I'm like, okay, so she's your celebrity crush. So who on the show reminds me of Jennifer Aniston? Right.

Like just trying to dissect everything. Oh, Rachel from Friends. But I think I like her because I am such a big fan of romantic comedies. Are you? She's like, obviously, like 10 out of 10. Just go with it? Yes. Love that one.

Yes. God. She's great. Okay. Jason Tardick. Oh, man. I just. Vegas.

Vegas is literally. Oh, Vegas is the word that comes to mind. Oh, man. Sorry. No, that's funny. Well, he does love gambling. He, but me and that's where our relate, like, as a friendship, we sat at the black, we had a dark day in Vegas.

Yeah. We sat at the blackjack table for hours as everybody else was like swimming and laying out and stuff. We're like, oh, we were here to make money. Yeah, I went gambling with him and we had the best time. Oh, yeah. He's good. Because he's a big numbers guy.

Yes. Okay. Chris Harrison. Athletic I trained with him every Like we ran and worked out He is sneakily That is the last thing in the world

I would imagine you to say about Chris Harrison Not saying he's not athletic But I mean I watched him golf the other day It's amazing But yes Wow athletic I actually That's the word you used to describe

And he posted today Like we went on runs all the time Yeah I saw that Okay Okay Hannah B Well I guess this air is after But still what's one word

oh uh i always say beast beast yeah yeah yeah totally totally i let the beast out yeah um blake am i taking too long for these yes well i know i'm sorry i really like blake i don't know what like blake was going to be my confession well okay so did jason tell you so jason i and i love blake now all respect to him jason i didn't like blake at first yes yes they yeah that's a known thing to me anyways Like, at least in our eyes during the Bachelorette, Blake was sort of like a snob. Yeah, yes. And, like, he was always like, to himself. Yeah.

And I was like, all right. I didn't trust him. I was like, there's something weird. There's something off here. And Jason, I would always talk about it. Yeah. Like, something's off with this dude. We don't trust him.

Yeah. And we hung out with him after the show. We were like, this is a completely different dude. Blake is actually really cool. And I remember Jason and I texting being like, I just hang out with Blake and I really liked it. Yeah. And I was like, okay, me too. And then, like, now we're like all three, like, really good friends.

I mean, that show can bring out some weird sides of people, you know. Some people are not who they would be in real life. And Blake's actually a good, like a good friend. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. I love Blake. Yes. I love Blake.

He's a good dude. I mean, I love all of you guys. Who's the fourth? Garrett, but that dynamic sort of. God, he's funny. We're going to see, though, how it plays out because tomorrow I'm doing a charity event down in San Diego. Oh, yeah? Thanks for the invite.

Garrett and Beck, you want to come? Garrett and Becker coming. Jade and Tanner will be there. They told me, Jayton Tanner were here today. Yeah. No, I can't come because I'm going to have a... Blake's going to be there. So that's the first time all three we're going to be in the same area.

No, is that weird? I gave Blake full disclosure. I said, hey, just want to let you know, like, Garrett and Becca will be there. He's like, it's fine. I'll still stop by. So I was like, okay, cool. He's fine now. Yeah, because sometimes, I mean, I always say this, watching the seasons back, like,

I think people get closure. Yeah. So Blake was probably confused. Then he watches it back and he goes, okay, like, you get a little bit of closure from it. Correct. And, yeah, times passed. Yeah. I had other names, but I feel like I shouldn't go there.

That's all I've got. I mean, yeah, that was. I liked it. No, I, it's so fun. You know what, I like talking to you about it because I, and she knows, I love breaking it the fourth wall. I know. Because people get this misconception of like, we're sneaky and we're fame hungry and we're fame.

It's like, no, I know I'm here. I'm like, I'm building. something for me, I'm working, like, if I'm going to sit here and have to take half the comments that I read prior to me being announced as Bachelor, and I'm going to have to take the criticism, I'm for damn sure going to make the most out of this. You best believe that. Like, if you're going to sit there and criticize me, I'm going to, I'm going to take this and run with it. And also, just to toot your own horn, you're really good at social media. I love, I love being snarky on Twitter.

You're good, though, but people like that. People like spicy. Yeah. You're a little spicy on Twitter. Thank you. Instagram, you're like, aesthetically pleasing, and Twitter, like, you're, like, spicy. Yeah. Yeah. Well, thank you so much for doing the podcast.

Thank you for having me. Part two, three, four to come with. With Cupcake and Jay. Yeah. Let's do it. It's funny because you say Cupcake and I think of. Oh, your guy? Yeah, my guy.

I'm like, Cupcake, yeah. Cupcake wine. Cupcake wine. I'm going to bring you guys a bottle of my rosé. And I was going to say also amazing your rosé because I also have a wine coming out. Do you? And so we can, like, drink each other's wine. And then we can be competitive and be like.

Like, who's this better? I have a cab, a rosé, and a pinot grazier coming out. Oh, I see what you did. I just had to one up to you a little bit. Yeah. But this has been in the works for a year. Oh, you, yeah. It takes a while to do this.

I got a spade tattooed on my finger because my name is Spade and Sparrow's wine. Oh, I like it. Yeah. Did you know that I had a wine before and I shipped all, I shipped like the last two cases to the Bachelor Mansion during the filming and Bachelorette? That's amazing. And we all drank. We all drank it.

What? That's genius. It was super cool. Everybody loved it too. So, like, I've had it prior to the show. Like, that's why I'm allowed to do it, you know, because contractually, the bachelor has to some wine and stuff too. But it was like one of those things. I was like, no, I had this before I came into your.

That's great. So it was cool. Well, good for you. I mean, I honestly. 100% of the proceeds go to benefits to sick. I love that. Like, I don't, I don't take a salary from the foundation. I'm definitely taking a salary.

Yeah, you're a business woman. You know what you're doing. I do. If I had long hair and buy your scrunchies. You would. Yeah. Well, you can rock them on your wrist like me. Oh, done.

Yeah. And I will say I'm probably hard on everyone that comes in and out of the show. And so if I have been hard on you, it's only because... It's okay. I appreciate it. You know. No, I know. Because I was hard on Ari.

Right. And like now I, like, I even... I was texting Ari the other day to ask, like, dude, I was like, I have more appreciation for you than you know. Yeah, that's... I remember Ben, because I obviously sent Ben home and he became The Bachelor. And he, when I first saw him for the first time after that, he hugged me and he goes, I have so much respect for you. Yeah.

And I was like, oh, thank you. Like, and nobody will, and you could say this over and over, people aren't going to understand it because unless you go through it, you do not get it. Yeah. That's, I always tried to say that to Sean. I was like, you don't get it. Right. You had to go through it.

But thank you. And I really do think you're doing a great job. I do. Thank you. I appreciate it. And. Can I ask you one question? Yeah, of course.

After this podcast, do you trust virgins? You know what? You changed my mind. Yes. You know what? I trust you. Okay. That's great answer.

Which also means maybe you're not a virgin anymore. Hey, can I walk you out? Yeah, let's go. Okay. I'm Caitlin Bristol. I'll see you next Tuesday. Thanks for listening to Off the Vine with Caitlin Briscoe. Get new episodes every Tuesday exclusively on Podcast1.com, the Podcast One app, and subscribe on Apple Podcasts.

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