Off The Vine with Kaitlyn Bristowe - Dixie D'Amelio: Fame, Family & Facing Struggles

Episode Date: October 17, 2023

Dixie D’Amelio joins Kaitlyn in NYC, shoes off and a glass of wine in hand, to candidly discuss everything from managing the pressures of fame to sharing her struggles with PMDD (Premenstrual Dysphoric Disorder). It’s pretty obvious that Dixie is destined for the spotlight with her "nails nailing", incredible fashion sense, and her ability to confidently present in front of a crowd of A-list celebrities without getting nervous. Like, how? Then, Kaitlyn and Dixie discuss their similar experiences with PMDD and how it has impacted their relationships and mental health. Now that she's doing much better, Dixie shares how she continues to make small shifts to lead a healthier life and how important it is to advocate for your mental health. After talking about her relationship with social media, Kaitlyn asks some burning questions such as... Is she the same person online as she is in person? What's the deal with the constant speculation around her dating life? And is she releasing new music soon? To wrap it up, they talk about her close-knit family and what it was like watching Charli and Heidi on DWTS (Dancing with the Stars). And for those wondering if Dixie would ever go for the mirrorball trophy... Listen, and you’ll find out! Check out the new season of The D’Amelio Show streaming on Hulu now.   Thank you to our sponsors! Check out these deals for the Vinos: JUST THRIVE — Save 20% off of Just Thrive probiotic and Just Calm when you go to JustThriveHealth.com and use code VINE a t checkout.  INDOCHINO — Use promo code VINE for 10% off when you visit Indochino.com.  JENNI KAYNE — Find your forever pieces at Jenni Kayne and get 15% off with promo code VINE at JenniKayne.com/home!  See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Happy Tuesday. I recorded with today's guest about a month ago and y'all keep asking about it. So the wait is over. Here is my conversation with the hottest TikToker slash reality TV star. slash fellow PMDD struggleer. I get it. The Dixie DeMilio. Enjoy. Okay, so you're in New York. Are you here for a fashion week or did you come for VMAs? Came for VMAs and then press for our Hulu show. Cool. Yeah, I don't think I'm doing any fashion week stuff here. You look like you are. The nails are nailing. I love those jeans. Where are those jeans from? They're really cute. I mean, don't hurt yourself, but we'll check after.

Yeah, they're really cute. They're like sparkly. I guess I always forget. that I do YouTube now, and I always feel like I need to describe, like, what people look like on my podcast, and I'm like, oh, wait, everybody can see you. But so how was presenting at the VMAs? Like, that's freaking huge. It was so much fun. It was kind of scary because it was so loud. I did it last year. That's what scared you. I would be scared because it was swiftly looking me dead in my soul. I'd be like, oh, shit. I just don't like make eye contact with anyone, so I don't like freak out. And then I was standing on stage and I look behind me and like, oh, everyone's right there. I saw my parents. I wave to them. It was fun. That's nice. I mean,

you guys have such a solid family, it feels like, and support system. So it's nice that you get to all do it together because you're also promoting your show with your whole family. And so that's fun to do. But do you get nervous? Like, you've done so much already, but do you get nervous having to go out and be in front of all these A-less celebrities? Are you like, eh, just another day? Not really. I feel like I just try to not think about it. So it's not scary. Can you teach me that truth? I was just like, I can't be scared. And I feel like it's going to be so much worse if I'm scared so I just go like do it okay how old are you 22 22 at 22 I was scared to like go to the vending machine in front of somebody because I was like what if they're looking at me like

it's so cool that you already have that kind of confidence and you're like where do you think it comes from because you're thrown out there on the internet kind of overnight like become this big success and you don't know like before that you didn't know what your life was going to be now so where do you think that comes from that you like can do things that most people probably couldn't I really like public speaking and yeah that never really stresses me out i don't know i've just always kind of been good at winging it yeah i feel like it's kind of the same thing and i get a teleprompter so it's like you get a teleprompter so you literally just have to read yeah so as long as i can do that then i feel like i'm fine it's crazy too because you could put out something that gets millions of views just

on your phone and not think twice but then like just to have you know like an intimate room full of celebrities you're like wait a second it's much different when you can see them where do you you think you would be if it wasn't for TikTok? Like, did you have a thing in life where you're like, this is what I'll do? Like, I know you're involved in music. Like, is there something that you thought you would do? Definitely something in fashion. Yeah. Probably because my dad, like, works in the clothing business. So I've always been around that. And like, I worked at a clothing store. Did you really? Yeah. What one? It's called LF. I think they all closed down. But I worked there and that was really fun. So I liked selling and that kind of stuff. That's cool. Yeah. As soon as you

walked in, I'm like, she gets it. I'm like, I need help in the fashion department. I'm like sweats, cardigan. Oh, I would love to be in sweats and a hoodie every day, but... Really? Yeah. I feel like that's most of my closet, but I do like fashion and dressing up, but I also love being comfortable. Yes, I feel that. I took my shoes off. Yes, so did I. I'm like, I'm literally wearing mixed match socks right now and like, shoes are optional around here, okay? Perfect. Did you like watching your sister on Dancing with the Stars? Oh, it was insane. so fun. For most of the shows I watched from home and I like was just crying because I'm just so proud of her and my mom as well. God, your mom crushed it. I had Artem as my partner when I was

on it. And so I was like, asked her, I'm like, does he say this to you? She's like, no, I'm like, what? Yeah, your mom crushed it too. Yeah. My gosh. I saw your mom's photos from yesterday or something. She is just. She looks amazing. She is fire. Well, I love your dad too. I went out with them one time in LA and I just adore them. Your whole family is just incredible. It makes sense. You know, when you meet a family and you're like, you're supposed to be on TV, that's how I feel about you guys. Like, not only are you entertaining, but you're like all grounded and like good people. Thank you. And I feel like that's hard to come by. But I love getting to know people on my podcast a little bit better. And of course, I don't know you. I know. I've seen your stuff, of course. And I've talked to your mom on the podcast as well, but I don't know you personally. So I usually save games for the end, but I'm going to put a game in the middle just to kind of get to know you a little bit better. Okay. So five deep questions. getting to know you better. Okay. What is your favorite childhood memory? My favorite childhood memory. I mean, I spent so much time with my family. Like, my dad worked from home. My family was always together. We just always have fun. Like, my parents were always fun and they were the last ones at the party.

Yeah. Like, we just had a really good schedule, like, especially in the summer. We would go and go to the beach and then go get ice cream and go home together and like all hang out. You guys are like a tight-knit family. You do it. family you do everything together we're very close i mean go to the beach with your family and ice cream that's like a childhood married mine is going to my family's cabin and just being by the water yeah just like anything to do with them is anything to do with them that's so nice i hope my kids speak of me that way one that's i know i'm like i'm very nice to my family they're very lucky to have me they are they're so lucky to have me but they are they might say differently that no no no your mom to speak so highly of all of you. Your dad is incredible. It definitely is mutual. Okay, who is like

an inspiration to you when you think about the kind of person you want to be in the things you want to do in your life? Who inspires you? I feel like my dad. That's cool. So, but my dad inspires the hell out of me. I get that. I just everything he does, I feel like he does it right. And he's so smart and just very hardworking. And he's a great role model to watch and like everything he's done. And we think very similarly. So I posted the other day. My dad was just with me for a week in Nashville visiting. And I posted just how special it is to me to have that kind of relationship with my dad and what kind

of role model he has been to me or like even just as a man, how to like to feel treated. And it got me thinking because three of my close friends have lost their dads. And I'm like, I want to like reach out and hug every person who either like has lost a dad or doesn't have a relationship with their dad because it can be such a special bond. Yeah. And I think that's so cool that he inspires you and that you get that. Because I understand having that relationship with your dad, but it's just so, it doesn't happen very often.

Yeah, I'm very lucky. Yeah, that's awesome. I love that he inspires you. What are you the most passionate about? Right now, I think music, probably. I'm just having so much fun. And I was just in Nashville writing there. Oh, that's cool.

And it's kind of just been a great way to get all of my feelings out there. and I've been having so much fun writing and recording. And I just want to, like, I'm taking my time, but I want to be able to release everything and go on tour, hopefully. Oh, that would be fun. That's probably my number one thing right now. That's cool because, first of all, Nashville is definitely the place to do it. There's so many talented, incredible, like, nice humans that want you to succeed there.

You know what I mean? Like, I feel like not to dog on L.A. and New York, like, I love them all for what they bring to the table, but Nashville, I feel like the people want to champion other people there and they want them to succeed and they'll do whatever to help you. And I know for you, music can be super therapeutic because I was reading about how you use your journaling to even write music. So what is a songwriting process for you look like? I walk into a room with like a writer and a producer and basically just start talking and I'm like, oh my God, this boy did this to me. And I'm I'm pissed or I did this to someone and I feel like an asshole but I need to like fix it.

Just kind of anything. I just talk and talk until like someone connects with something and then we'll go deep into a song and just go something like that. And they're like, what are you listening to? What do you like to hear right now? And I play like the most random songs and then we'll just kind of go from there. Yeah. Isn't music cool that way where anything can inspire anyone? It could be this is a dumb story or like I don't want to share that.

It could be anything and it could click with someone and that means, you know, when you get to share it with your audience, that something that has happened to you can resonate so much with so many different people. And it could be the same story. It could be something that reminds them of a story. It could be something completely different, but the words mean something to them. Like, that's what's so cool about music. You've been kind of open about your feelings and certain things that happen in your life. And I think it's so cool. There's this organization they do in Nashville for people coming back who have PTSD.

and have depression, and it's a foundation that actually helps them channel their PTSD into songwriting. And it actually helps people so much. And even myself, I do a little bit of songwriting in Nashville. And it's so nice to not feel judged. Like, you just go in and you can say exactly what you're feeling. And nobody's like, it's like, oh, let's write a song about it. You know, I know before you've had music that you released, but it kind of wasn't your story. And this time, it's going to be different where this is going to be more personal to you. So have you done an album? Like, when can we expect it?

How many songs are you going to put out there? I have no idea. Are you just going with the flow right now? Yeah, just going with the flow. I feel like I have two totally different sounds going right now, more like a pop rock thing and then more like singer-songwriter, guitar, very stripped down. And I feel like I'll probably end up doing like one and then another like EP of both. just so I can like do both like I love pop music I love all different styles of music so I just

want to be able to share both but they definitely don't exist together that well yeah so well I feel like you can do that these days I know I mean honestly no rules but like for me and my brain I'm like no they need to be separate like I can't listen to this like song and then go into this nice well and that's the beautiful thing about it is that it's whatever you know you want it to be and what resonates with you grab a coffee and discover nonstop action with BudMGM Casino. Check out our hottest exclusive. Friends of one with Multi-Drop. Want to even more options?

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In season two preview of your show, you said I was in bed the last three months of 2022 working on my mental health. Now, I love that because I wish I would have known at 22 to work on my mental health. Like, I get so excited for people your age to get to my, I have so old, to get to my age, though. And especially if you're journaling and writing and you're documenting so much of your life, you're going to look back in however many years and be so proud of yourself for what you're doing now in your life. But do you, Do you have PMDD? Because I do. Okay. PMDD. Yeah. Do you have PCOS too because yeah. Okay, same. I have both those things. And the PMDD for again, if I would have known this at 22, it would have changed my whole life because for however many years I thought maybe bipolar. I thought maybe just like always depressed. I would ruin relationships. I would be so hard on myself. I wouldn't show up for work. Sometimes like it really crippled me in so many ways. So to figure that out. at such a young age. Did you just have to, like, advocate for yourself and be like,

what is happening here and how do I fix it? I think it was just because I was at the lowest you can get, like, very scary. And I just called my dad. I'm like, I don't know what to do. And then crying back and forth for like hours. And I've always, like, knew something was surrounding my period. But I feel like how is, like, how are, like, yeah, everyone's like. You're a bitchy on your period. You're just like, yeah, okay. So I told my dad that. And then we ended up finding out about PMDD. I went to like psychiatrists, got like tested for everything else. And then went to some other doctors and got diagnosed, which I think the diagnosis is like the best thing.

Because now I'm like if I don't have an emotion for more than like three weeks, then I know that it's probably that related. Even like sometimes I don't even realize, but I'm like, I need to end like this friendship. It's not working. It's like they hate me. And the feeling that everyone hates me is probably the biggest thing. Yeah. Just like no one likes me. No one cares about me.

And that was probably what I was dealing with the most this year and what's shown on the show a lot. Like because I was really sick last year, I lost a lot of weight. So my periods were messed up. So it just never went away. Well, hormones messed with everything. So it was just like three months. I lost like 30 pounds. Oh my gosh.

I was like so skinny. Yeah. I feel like working on your mental health is such like a funny. statement because it's like okay like whatever everyone now says like of course you work on your mental health but do you like what are you actually like right now i'm gonna be honest i'm not but i'm in a really good place but this is the time where you should work on it but i'm like oh whatever i don't know i was like i don't need to go to therapy i should probably be still going to therapy but it's nice you're so self-aware and no that's so bad no it's not it's well i mean if you think you should

go to therapy go i'm not going to hold you back but i just think you know if you're in a good place, enjoy that too and be proud of yourself because maybe you're in a good place because you have worked on it, you know? And maybe you don't need to go as much as you used to need to go and like you can celebrate being in that place now where you're like, I'm here. I'm in a good spot. But I also wanted to thank you for sharing it because, again, I'm probably going to bring up your age a lot because I'm very impressed. I'm impressed by it. But there's so many younger people that look up to you and who follow you. And I know from being when I was young, all I had in magazines was cosmopolitan and get your body to look like this so he'll like you and nobody talked about

mental health and for you to be the age that you are inspiring all these young people like you've probably changed lives just from you know saying out loud what you're going through so does that come easy to you to just openly share things or is this something that you choose to do for the greater good or maybe both i don't love doing it because honestly i feel i'm like oh people are going to think I'm using it for attention or like a crutch or whatever but I'm like it's so debilitating because I'm fine one day and then I'm like what is wrong with me yeah and I think because I know me identifying that it was just like something related to my period yep was the best thing for me like course because then you have an answer yeah it's like okay this isn't

gonna last like or if it lasts then like maybe we need to do some more work i mean now because i'm a lot healthier and like gained weight it's like only a couple days yeah and not as bad but when i was like staying at home and really sick it was full two weeks and then i would get my period and then i'm basically one week of like feeling okay yeah see that's not okay you know what i mean like there's so many people out there that suffer from hormones, from PMDD, from PCOS, from anything that has to do with the female body where you're taught to think it's normal. It's not good. No. It's miserable. So do you recommend people finding the right help with like finding a good psychiatrist and doctors and people that can really like dive into what is going on in your cycle, your health and just having those

resources? I mean, I think so. I don't haven't really done too much. I kind of just found out and was like, I'll do with it later. And then I had a really great year and I haven't dealt with it yet. Good. So eventually I'll probably step back and be like, okay, let's figure out what's going on. But there's also not a lot of research. Right. And it's kind of like, oh, this birth control could help.

I'm like, all right. And then they have all the symptoms. Yeah. And it's like, okay, it's not even worth it for me, I feel like. But I've just been like eating and trying to be as healthy as I can sleeping. and also going on having fun because I think I got so used to just like cocooning that it was just easy to say no to everything. Yeah.

You forget how much sometimes like connection can help because I go one of two ways where either I want to be out and enjoy everybody or I want to be in my house and not speak to a soul. And it's like either A or B and there's no in between for me. And when I dread it and then I actually get there, I'm like, why do I always think this is going to be so tough or bad when it really like you need that human connection with people and especially if you're surrounding yourself with the right people. Do you find it hard in the world you're in to find the right people to surround yourself with or do you have a pretty solid group? I have a pretty solid group. That's amazing. I have my hometown best friend who I see pretty often. She's like in

college but I'll visit her and she's like with me for the whole summer and I think just having even like the team around me I'm very close to everyone, my family. I did have done a pretty good job at keeping people that like make me feel good around yeah don't trust me out yeah don't like i i don't hang out with anyone i argue with maybe like my sister right about it like anyone that would cause me more stress in my life i just can't do it because it just makes the cycle so much worse like how did you come to that realization i feel like so many people searched their whole life to know what you just said well i just knew something was so wrong i was throwing up every morning from anxiety like literally like stomach acid every morning like what's wrong with me i feel like everyone's mad

at me all the time and once i kind of started changing all that i haven't like thrown up from anxiety in months and i feel really good and i can go to sleep and sleep through the night like i just you see the benefits of even you know like small changes yes small changes i think that's a that's a that's a really important thing for people to take away is everyone always thinks it's going to be these big drastic measures to, you know, arrive to happiness. Working out twice a day. Yeah. You don't have to. I mean, obviously, moving your body is great, but don't force yourself to do all these things that you think are going to be these big changes where micro shifts are like where the big changes happen eventually. Yeah. And they're approachable. You know,

like the micro shifts are approachable. You don't have to make it harder on yourself than it has to be. Do you think being in the public eye or having so many eyes on you has helped or hurt that? in a way like once you started going through like the hormones and everything was that kind of what you're facing with or did you find that being in so much in the public eye made it worse i've always had this yeah like in high school no matter what yeah i remember dealing with it and it's so hard to determine like oh it's my period because you forget the second you get it's like oh wait i was totally fine i was being dramatic but no and that never goes away by the way i'm 38 and i still am like no it's not i'm not it's not that time like i'm just this is how i'm feeling and

I try and then I go oh because it it's technically not real right which is like very nice to hear but that is the hardest thing to hear well because you're like it's validating but discouraging at the same time because like I know I feel this way I mean I thought it was bipolar and I was just trying to look for an answer that would make it real I don't know I feel like because I'm not going through it right the second I'm like oh it's fine it's not that bad it's really very tough to deal with. And also tough for people around me. And I feel bad because I just start like self sabotaging because I'm like everyone hates me. So I'm going to like cut everyone off or whatever and just stay to myself. And I think I've done a good job at stopping that. And like my sister knows. And she's

like, I'm just not going to talk to you. Like honestly, probably good. Let's take a couple days. Yeah. Well, sometimes that's all you need is a couple days. You know, like some people recharge by being around to others. You know, we all recharge differently. So if you just need two days to like take whatever you need for yourself, I hope, and I don't think you do, feel guilty for doing that because you know that's going to, you know, benefit you in the long run. Yeah. I think that's great. Do you let any sort of outside noise? Because I know you keep your circle close, but do you let noise of the internet like trolls and do you read comments? Do you let that affect you? I do read comments. Yeah. again like if I read it today it wouldn't affect me like if I'm reading it when I'm going through

something yeah oh my god this is the worst thing in the entire world yeah and then when I feel like that I'm like oh yeah might be something going on you've obviously been your own advocate for your physical and mental health but isn't it nice to just have yourself in your own corner to go oh yeah I know what's going on I know that I can just like let me go to sleep and we'll think about it in the morning like when I start spiraling I'm like you know what I just try to tire myself out yeah like crying and my life is over whatever yeah I just keep going until I'm so exhausted I fall asleep and I wake up like oh that was weird is it hard to know that people look up to you you have everything you've got this incredible family you're successful you're gorgeous you've got all these things going for you and you're like Kate tell me you've never experienced. anxiety without telling me you know like it it doesn't matter who you are on what scale people experience this and again like thank you for sharing it with people because I think it really helps yeah even as an older lady but it helped me like hearing you say that it twists your mind so much where you just feel like nothing and no positive feelings towards yourself that like everything

could be going perfectly and I'm just miserable and it's so frustrating like I'm ruining all these good times. That's why now when I'm feeling good, I've tried to do as much as I can, because I don't want to waste my life. And I think the more I go out and hang out with people and have fun, the less the symptoms are. But there's honestly, like, still some months it could be really bad. I think that's the frustrating part about PMDD is like one month you're like, okay, my cured? It didn't happen this time. And then the next month, it's like, again, crippling, debilitating where you can't get out of bed. It's not a fun game that you got to play every month. like every month clockwork you just have to go through this guessing game it's so hard exactly how do you

decide what to share with your audience honestly i don't think about it like that's great i'm just like sometimes i say things if someone asks me the right question i'll answer it like i don't know yeah i'm not like oh i'm keeping this to myself yeah whatever well you've got this audience and i always call it a big responsibility because you do you make people's days you help them through things and when people don't overthink what they're posting and they're just like this is who i am a day that attracts more people you know what i mean it's the right kind of people are going to be drawn to and again this is your career now you know what i mean like this is your tv show your do you have a clothing line is that what's happening over clothing line shoe line a lot of stuff going on music so i like that you're

able to just not overthink that and share what you want when you want because i do think that makes people trust you yeah i hope so it does it does what is your relationship with social media like outside of business oh i am the biggest social media viewer of all you're a consumer like i know every drama in every niche little community on really like i know everything so every time someone goes to show me something i'm like i know like i saw it thanks like how many hours do you spend on your phone consuming last week there was a day where i had 19 hours of screen time no 19 59 19 hours and 59 minutes so 20 hours yeah yeah okay now justify this to me I can't I really can like so but you're entertained it's not like you're consuming stuff that's making

something hard on you you're having the best time I'm having the best time I love the internet I think it's so much fun that's amazing and it's cool that I get to do it as a job yeah I'm like I'm doing market research yeah exactly so mad he's like let me see your screen time I'm like it's research and development. I'm getting inspired to do more. Is your dad present on social media? He's Instagram, Disney? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Does he have TikTok? Yeah. He knows everything, too. Like, we'll start a conversation. Did you see? And then, like, just finish the other sentence. He spends a lot of time on his phone. That's, what is his screen time? Like, similar? Probably. But he said, he answers emails on his phone. He says. Emails are like the new snail mail to me.

I'm like, just text me or call me because I don't check emails anymore. Do you feel like the person that everyone sees online? is your true self? Or do you feel misunderstood sometimes? Yeah, I feel like my online presence is so much worse than I am in person. I think I'm so much more fun and like cool in person. Really? That's a great I know, which I love. So like when people meet me, they're like, oh, you're not annoying TikTok. I'm like, yeah, I'm really fun. But it does suck because I feel like people would like me a lot more, but it would be a lot of effort to try to show my personality online because it's very complex. That's kind of the beauty of the internet too is you don't have to. You can keep some of those moments for yourself.

I feel the people who follow me and follow me for a while have a better idea. But I think if someone just saw a couple videos of me and they're like, oh, she's like a cute little influencer. Yeah. Like, okay. You're like, I'm more than that. I'm more than that. What do you think the peak in Valley is like the best part and the worst part about the career path that you're on? The best part, probably being able to spend like so much time with the people I like.

and my family and just doing crazy shit. I'm like, oh, my God. The worst part is probably move so fast sometimes where I don't like enjoy the moment. Yeah. So I've been doing a better job at that, but I feel like I've experienced things and I'm like, I was so nervous or whatever, like nervous where people would say that I didn't enjoy that. Yeah. God, I'm excited for you.

Like, you have so much life to live and you're going to be so, the most. self-aware queen ever like you really are i'm like god i wish i could go if i could go back in time i would want to like do more research into my own self and you're doing it right you are thanks yeah you're welcome take the compliment now i know in your show one of the clips said on the internet every single person i'm next to i'm dating but that must be hard it's like literally every time you're next to someone that's no i've had like 30 boyfriends this year and it's like i'm 22. Yeah.

Shut up. Yeah. You wouldn't want, if you were in college as a 22-year-old and every little sneaky hookup was shown online. Oh, yeah, no. Or any person you would talk to or whatever. You're just exposed at all times. Like, if you're out in public, like, sure, whatever.

But it is kind of like, why does everything have to be so serious all the time? It doesn't. Dating in relationships. I'm like, chill out. Not everything has to be like black and white. Like, whatever. You see someone for a couple weeks. And if you are seen with multiple guys, you're a whore.

Yeah. I'm like, shut up. Who cares? Who cares? I love your attitude. I'm not dating you. Like, shut up. I don't.

I think it's bad because I don't know if you're like me, but I have always had a lot of guy friends. Like, I find myself to be a girl's girl. I have the most solid girlfriends in my life that I've had since I was young. And I love them and I would do anything for them. And there's so many times in my life we're always put, like, I'll think about a woman's feelings first. But I'm also like such a dude's dude where I get around a group of guys and I go, I feel like I belong. Like, I feel like I'm supposed to be here.

But that comes with people always just think, like, you know, I'm surrounding myself with guys. And do you have a lot of guy friends? I have a couple. I feel like recently I've, like my best friend, I just, I just want to hang out with her all the time. I don't really care about anyone. Yeah. I've always, like, only been around girls. Like, my whole family is basically girls.

So I think I'm better at it. Yeah. I do like being around guys, but guys are a lot more drama. Hey, I know. Gossipy little bitches. Like, oh my God. I love you. They are don't shut up.

They are sneaky. I know. I know. So much worse. And I feel like I've been single for a year or whatever and just like going out more or whatever. They suck. All of them.

And they're drama starters. Yes. They're babies too. Men are fucking babies. I'm sorry. I said it. Men are babies. But girls get a bad reputation.

The boys are worse. Because it's easy because we get our periods and it's something to blame. Yeah. And men are, trust me, I was the Bachelorette. I dated 30 men at once. And I was like, y'all are worse than the girls. They really are. It's funny.

Okay, so a lot of my listeners are millennials, too, because I really wanted to find out if anyone was like the Gen Z era out there and, like, hear something. But does Gen Z have a problem with millennials or do millennials secretly have a problem with Gen Z for not caring about them? I think everyone's just, like, annoyed with each other. They're always fighting. I'm like, both of you guys are annoying. Shut up.

I agree. Like, I don't know. Gen Z hates everything millennials do. And I think millennials don't even get that Gen Z's making fun of them sometimes. That's exactly what I think. I'm like, we're not in on the joke. No. No.

But I think with TikTok picking up a little bit, I think everyone's getting closer to the same page. Because now my parents know things. I'm like, how do you know that? That's true. It's like, blending us all together because now I'm saying things like dead ass and like suss. And then I'm like, Caitlin, you're. pushing 40 bitch let's calm down I do I feel like sometimes I'm like trying but it's catchy you guys have catchy stuff I love the Gen Z generation it actually makes me excited to have kids because I got

really scared for a minute about having kids and well now I'm single and 38 so I don't know when that's going to happen but at some point when it happens I'm actually excited because I feel like your generation is so open to being human yeah we're insane everyone's insane but in a great way where it's like we're all open and like honest and deep interesting very interesting everyone's really emotional in a good way and like it's great everyone's open about their emotions yeah it is a lot it is a lot i don't know but also i feel like we're fed so much of like information every day and it just gets so holy shit what's going on like you read a crazy news article and then the next thing it's like oh puppy video and your mind is just all over the place

I think we're all going to go insane, but... I think I already am. Yeah. That's so true. It's the scrolling. And like now if a video's 30 seconds, that's too long for my brain. Yeah. So what is your favorite trend right now?

Favorite trend? Like whether it be a hair, outfit, makeup, dance, sane, anything. Like, what are you like, this is it right now? Um, I like watching food videos. Really? I'm just so hungry. I think that was my whole favorite. I was here.

So that's all I can think of. But I love watching people eat and, like, make fun. I'm the opposite. I'm the opposite. I'm literally like, if I hear people chew. In person, it's bad, but I love ASMR. You do? I'm, like, so irritated by mouth noises.

I can't handle ASMR. I can't. Where do you live, L.A.? I love in L.A. So when do you go back? I think two weeks. And two. I'm going to Milan, I think.

This bitch. I'm going to Milan. I think. I don't know what I'm doing. I just go around told. I'm the same way. Are you here for? for two weeks in New York. I'm here for a week and then to Milan for a week, I think,

and home. That's fun. I like, I like doing all this and it's really fun, but I have a really good, like routine at home and I like my bed. I get that. It's nice to feel routine, especially when your life is so crazy. Like, that kind of structure gets you back to feeling like yourself again for you to be able to get up and go and move and get busy again. So what are you looking forward to the most coming up? I think the show to be out. I think it's going to be insane, but a lot of fun. Yeah. I feel like a bunch of random little stuff. all over the place. I'm excited for your music. I know. I'm very excited to start releasing. I just wanted to be right. Yeah. Don't be too hard on yourself. I know. And then I want to

perform and go on tour. So when you picture yourself on tour, do you like, like singing? Singing. I need to work on the movement. It's very tough for me. I mean like on stage? Yeah. You know what? All you got to do is do it a few times. Well, have you done performing like music on stage? So you just feel like. I'm very stiff. I'm not a good dancer. did not would you ever go on dancing with the stars we talked about it i just i can't go into the season right after my sister fair yeah and then get out the first week which like you know you went i would i'm very bad it doesn't matter how bad you are you have a very supportive and large audience i don't think anyone would want to see it like it's so painful the thing that i love about dancing

with the stars is watching people improve i don't want to see someone good right off the bat and then just like stay consistent like well actually your sister was really fun to watch because she was so good so really good dancer really talented but I would root for you yeah I would root for you on the dancing with the stars note I have to say this because Alan is so mad at me right now he was like Caitlin you called me a dick on your podcast and it like got picked up by people and us and they were like Alan's apparently the worst one in the ballroom and I was like if you listen to my podcast everybody knows I love Alan He's like a brother to me. I love to hate him.

We butt heads, but I love him the most of that whole show. And so everybody, they won't pick up a good headline, but I'm going to say it. I love Alan. I would pick him as my dance partner if I was to ever do like an all-stars season. I know. They need to. Could you imagine? If they do a winner's season, like I'll have to accept the fact that your sister will win again, but I would love to do it.

That would be so fun. I would love to see her do it again. And I just love Mark and BC are so amazing, these sweetest people in the entire world. Everyone was just so nice. Isn't it like a nice family feel over there? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I don't know how they have like the energy to do all of that.

I don't get it. I can't. He's also a musician. So it's like I had to put everything on hold. I still did my podcast when I was doing dancing, but it felt impossible. Yeah. Because it is so grueling. It is such a grind.

It's so many hours. And it's exhausting. as you know from your family being a part of that. I just know because I was like living with Charlie she's so hard on herself. So I think she pushed yourself a lot harder than she needed to. But obviously like it worked out. Yeah. Where does she keep her mirrorball? It was in our living room. Where is it? I think it's in a room like around. I think it's like near her candy drawer or something. Like oh my God. I have mine just propped up right in like my peripheral vision for when I'm podcasting. I'm like if I ever like get insecure, I'm like bitch. it's such like a funny thing because it's like plastic how do you such a weird goal for someone to have

because like if you want to be on it like you have to get famous first whatever right and then i look at i'm like you won this that's so weird i know my mom made it really far too especially when you know the hard work that goes into it you let you can like appreciate it for them oh yeah well that's amazing so tell everybody where they will be able to find your music should they just be following you because you'll probably announce it all yeah i'm sure everybody's already following you but social media yes tell us is it just your name just your at handle on spotify i think everything else is dixie de milio okay perfect i'll be there i'm excited for you i think it's gonna be good yeah i would love to go back to nashville yes oh my gosh go out in nashville i would take you anywhere whatever you want to do i've been

there for seven years and i feel like i know the ropes now it's so much fun isn't it fun we did like a line dancing class the first time I went. It was really bad, but it was so much fun. I grew up in this place called Alberta where that's what we did on Friday nights. We went line dancing. It's like people do it now as a joke. I did it for real back in my day. I need to stop acting like I'm your grandma over here. But yeah, come to Nashville. Yes. We'll have some wine, go line dancing, do whatever you want. But I also have so many friends in the, I'm sure you can write with whoever the hell you want, but I have really good people there too for that. So I'm excited for you. I feel like this is going to be a really good year. And I just am like,

I don't even know you and I feel proud of you. Oh, thank you. I'm Caitlin Bristow. I'll see you next Tuesday. See you're next Tuesday. respected TV producer, Jill Blackstone, and the other, Wendy. She was disabled, nearly blind and deaf, and Jill had devoted herself to taking care of Wendy. Jill was her best friend, her sister, her, everything. But the sister bond was shattered when Wendy and some of the sister's rescue dogs were found dead in a garage next to a toppled over barbecue grill.

Jill says accidental carbon monoxide poisoning killed everyone. Police do not believe her. Police arrested Jill Blackstone for the murder of her sister. Investigators think it was staged to look like an accident. Who will you believe, especially now, that a secret source has come forward with evidence never made public before? Jill was a good producer. There's no doubt about that.

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