Off The Vine with Kaitlyn Bristowe - Doug The Pug feat. Leslie Mosier

Episode Date: October 30, 2017

The Internet darling Doug The Pug (and his momager Leslie Mosier) meet with Kaitlyn in the studio to talk about his rise to fame, as well as his weird online haters. And as a special treat, Kaitlyn talks to PetMD's Life With Pets host Victoria Schade for advice about Tucker Doodle! See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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I got to talk with Victoria Shade from the podcast Life with Pets. Pet MDs, she's a pet expert, and I got to ask some questions I had about Tucker, and she can probably help you as well. So keep listening. The following program is a podcast.1.com presentation. Okay, are you ready to shake things up? Yes, I am. Well, Caitlin Bristow is creating a space where girls and jens can feel empowered to be themselves. Because there's more to life than Instagram, right? What's that supposed to mean? Welcome to Off the Vine with Caitlin Bristow. Now here's Caitlin. Okay, everybody. Welcome to Off the Vine. I'm your host, Caitlin Bristow. Oh, where's my wine bottle? Oh, there it is. I always try to pour wine at the beginning because I like the sound. Yep, there it is.

This is the time I would usually offer my guest wine, but today's a little bit different. Today, for the first time, I have a dog as my guest. And, I mean, obviously, I've had a dog in the studio before because Tucker, but, like, that would be silly to have one as a guest for Off the Vine. But today is an exception. This dog's like soups famous. I remember being at the Shorty Awards and I was literally being pushed out of the way to get to Doug. Oh, I just introduced him. I was going to save it. And I'm like, oh, no, I said it.

What other dog could I possibly have on my podcast, but Doug the pug? He's the one. He is the one. Like, Tucker is a little angry at me right now. Actually, Sean is. He's like, really? Oh, my God. Another dog over doodle.

I'm like, yeah, but. Doodle doesn't have like three million powers. We'll get him there. We'll get them there. But yeah. Okay. So do you hate the term momager? I embrace it at this point.

You know, it's like you are the momager. Yeah, I'm the mom and I'm the manager. Yeah. And do you have a name. It's Leslie. I do. Well, thank you for being here. I'm bringing your son.

Thank you for him. Do you call him that? He is your baby. I totally get it. Dog people don't get it. No. Or they do. No, dog people get it. aren't there such thing as people who aren't dog people unfortunately i don't trust people that's

not a world i want to live in no at all uh i have to say congratulations because you and your now fiancee are engaged thank you hi robbie's in the room too um are you going to be taking photos today yes okay cool um so how did he do it so when's the date so when you getting married oh my god people have asked me that question so many times is it already just calm down i know i just want to take it easy. I don't want to rush anything. Like, I'm just trying to, you know, not have more stress on my plate, our plate. You're going to do

the same thing as me. And the more people ask, the more you want to, like, push it away and resent it. And then you're like, God, maybe I won't get married. Maybe I'll be engaged forever. Well, everyone already knows Doug is the ring bear. So that's for sure. It would be rude if he wasn't. He has a tux. Of course he does. We don't even need to do. He probably

has, like, a closet of tuxes that you need to choose from. Well, we have in our basement, like a like a clothes rack that has all of his like toddler clothes so they're like hanging up on little hangers and then we have like five bins like the giant bins from the container store filled with costumes and it's so funny because we were trying to find a robe to bring today and we couldn't it's like all shoot I didn't even bring my robe I totally forgot well we couldn't find the robe we found like a different robe but it wasn't the robe oh there is the robe and a backup robe

there's just there's so much stuff and it's like we can't it's like a little tickle trunk of like costumes for Doug we need to like organize it and get that's amazing oh I have other people in the studio today so if you guys hear laughter in the background it's because I'm really funny um is this Doug's first podcast it is okay I feel really good about this I'm excited yeah I feel like it's an honor to have Doug here on off the vine for his first podcast he's spluting right now for those I mean you can't but his little legs are out in his butt he looks like a little frog He's so freaking cute And he's like on when you need him to be

And then he'll just chill He knows Yeah he knows Oh gosh He's a pro Do you sometimes Compare yourself To like Chris Jenner

As a momager Because I feel like you're kind of a genius And you've branded Doug so well That I'm like I kind of compare you to Chris Jenner Maybe I can be like The not billionaire Like humble

Okay humble Yeah I don't know But But maybe one day you will be. Maybe. Billionaire from Doug. Damn.

I feel like that's a possibility. You need to just put it out there in the universe that you're going to be a billionaire off Doug. You've really done something big here with Doug. Like, it's a thing. It's really exploded over the past, even six months, things are happening that, I mean, it's just, it keeps getting bigger. We keep expanding in ways that, like, I never. You get phone calls and you're like, really. Yeah.

We just got back from Chicago for a big meeting. I wish I could say more right now. Um, but it's just like, and it went so well. And it's just like, now it's to the point where we don't have to prove ourselves to people. And it's like, we have like the resume and the videos and like just everything. So when we put it in front of someone, they're like, oh my God, let's let's work together. And it's like, who doesn't want to work with a dog? I know. And he's so humble. He doesn't even know how famous he is. He does have a writer. Well, yeah. When we go to like, um, like talk shows or whatever and they're like, what's your writer? And we like always put Fiji water on there as a joke. but they always bring him Fiji Water. Oh, I thought you said a writer. Oh, no, no, no. Water. Like a writer, like for what he wants.

Oh, I don't know this terminology. I'm not there yet. What is it? You need a writer. What does that mean? It's like a list of your demands for when you, like, show up to a place. Oh, yeah. Like I've heard Rihanna has like quite, like the M&M thing.

Yeah, only red M&M's. Oh, so Doug gets Fiji water, which it's a joke, but it's become a thing. Yeah, and they bring him the Fiji water. Feige water is great. It is good. He deserves the best. That's amazing. Yeah, I just always think about like, I don't know why I keep going back to the Kardashians, but I'm like, you should just like, wait, has Doug ever thought about making a sex tape? It worked really well for Kim. No? Maybe one day. We'll get to that later because I have something hilarious to share with you for the confession. Okay, amazing. Yes, I can't wait for that. Well, I don't know. I just think about your level of Momager and how far would you go? I mean, sky's the limit or what? Yeah. I mean, like, it's crazy because back in the day when I first started Doug's social media accounts, I remember having a conversation with my mom in the car. I called her and I'm like, hey, I know this sounds crazy. And I was still working in the music industry at the time. So, you know, I was making no money, working, you know, really hard, whatever. But I call my mom and I'm like, I think Doug could be the next grumpy cat. Oh, right. Grumpy. Yes. Yeah. And he totally is. But better. No COVID.

And now that's happened. And, you know, like we just got named like one of the top animals, most influential animals by Forbes. What? What is life when your dog is in Forbes? It's crazy. And it's just crazy because it's a whole new part of pop culture, just like the Internet culture. It's like there are famous animals now. And so, you know, brands are starting to embrace it.

People are starting to embrace it. And it really shows when we show. up to, you know, a park in Nashville, and then five minutes later, we're getting mobbed as if he is a Kardashian. And we're just like, what's happening? Because at the end of the day, like, we go home and he's our baby. And we're just, like, chilling, like, watching stranger things for 24 hours. Like, that's literally what we did yesterday. I was going to say, just like any regular family with a dog where I'm like, not really because you guys all have, like, T-shirts of, like, stranger pugs on. You guys are a thing.

It's so, you need a TV show about it. Oh, man. We want to do a documentary one day. Because I think there's a lot that people don't realize goes into it. 100%. It's a lot of work. I kind of want to talk about that stuff on the podcast. Like what kind of stuff goes into it?

Because I feel like people think, oh, I can make my dog famous too. But it's a full-time job. That's one of the most, like, if we meet a stranger or someone that doesn't really quite get Doug the pug, they'll always be like, oh, I need to make my dog at Instagram. I need to quit my job and do it. And they're very, like, very rude. Oh, hi, Doug. Yes, we're talking about you. Oh my gosh.

Doug doesn't like that question either. Yeah. Like people just assume that I just put up a photo one day and it just the work happened for me. Right. And it's like if we didn't take advantage of that first viral video and just like work our asses off and quit our jobs, like it wouldn't be anything. And it would just be like whatever.

No, you have to be like a smart business woman to make this work. Wait, first. What was the first video that one? viral. So the first video that went viral on Facebook was a video of Doug in Dragon Park in Nashville in like Hillsborough Village and he had a pug balloon attached to him and he was running around the park with a pug balloon and the song like let me tell you about my best friend was playing. Oh yeah. I have seen this. Yes. Okay. And I woke up the next day after posting that and at the time he had 3,000 likes on Facebook and I woke up. Which is a lot for a dog. Exactly. Yeah. But like he was

You're like I've made it. He was getting no like. on his photos and videos. And I remember thinking it was a waste of time to be posting on his Facebook. Yeah. But I woke up the next morning and he had 12,000 likes on Facebook. And I was like, what happened? Yeah. And I look and his video got 20 million views overnight.

Oh my gosh. So we were like, what the heck? By the end of that day, his page had 100,000 likes. By the end of that week or month, he had a million likes. And then Rob and I were like, we need to make more videos because clearly that's what people really like. So then we did Harry Pugger and the Breaking Bad spoof. And it just became this thing where Doug the Pug was the king of pop culture.

And we would spoof anything that was, you know, popular in pop culture. So, like, recently we did the It spoof and like, Pocus, pocus. And so, yeah. He's so relevant. He is very relevant. He is so relevant. I just think it's so crazy because, I mean, what a time to be alive that a dog can be famous. Yeah.

And the fact that people love it makes me happy because dog videos are the best. You know, you've got your cat people, but no, big dog guy over here. I never like, I mean, I kind of got the grumpy cat thing, but Doug, I'm like, I get that one. I totally get that one. Like, sometimes I'll just lay awake at night knowing that a dog has accomplished more than me in my life. But I'm also like, I kind of get it. And I live a pretty full life, you know? Like, I'm not complaining over here, but Doug deserves it.

Yeah. And if it was a cat, I wouldn't be as impressed. Doug is like a prince. All the cat lovers out they're going to hate me right now. He is a prince. Not that this is a confession, but I have been traveling so much in the last few months that I ran out of groceries with no time to run to the store, and most delivery services are super expensive, and then I found Thrive Market. Thrive Market is an online grocer with a mission to make healthy living, affordable, and accessible to everyone. They cut out all the middlemen so you can purchase premium organic products at wholesale prices, all delivered to your door.

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That's thrivemarket.com slash vine. Would you say that he is the most famous dog out there? Right now I would say, yeah, he's definitely the most relevant. Yeah. Relevant is a good word. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Numbers-wise, he might, I mean, he has over 10 million followers across all of the socials. But as far as, like, an animal who's met a ton of celebrities, like, he's met, like, everyone you can think of Justin Bieber, Ed Shear, and Dolly Parton, Stephen Tyler, the cast of Stranger Things. I mean, the list goes on. So, like, I don't think there's any other animal out there that. And you get to just reap all the benefits, too. I'm like, hi. You don't have to, like, deal with the crazy.

your dog does, but you know what's great, too, is like, he's a dog, but not just any dog. Like, look at him. So cute. But, like, he's not going to, you know, like, people grow up and maybe their mom was too much of a momager and they have a little bit of issues later in life. Like, that won't happen to a dog. Like, the dance moms. Yeah. Like, you can have, you can just take full advantage of, you know, this popular.

Right? That's what I, yep, totally. That's what I was saying. Oh, my gosh. He is picking up what I'm putting down. Yep. He's a little pig. Oh, my gosh.

No, Doug is very humble. And it's crazy because we always say that he knows what he's doing. Like, it's, I swear he was meant for this. No, I believe you. I don't know, like, what he did in his past life or, like, what is going on with Doug. But since I got him, actually, it's funny that you're talking about the Kardashians. Because literally, as soon as I got him. him, like, picked him up, and he was eight weeks old.

You felt Kardashian energy. Is that what you're going to say? No? No? Just me? My roommate at the time was watching the Kardashians, and Doug sat in front of the TV and started watching. And it was like this joke, like, oh, my God, Doug is watching the Kardashians. And I always forget that that happened, but I just remember it.

So he was kind of like always meant... He channeled his inner kin, and he just embraced the love. life. Yeah. It's a lifestyle. Totally. Can you imagine if Doug got a photo with like one of the Kardashians or Kylie? Of course. He will. We're putting it out there. I feel like they're untouchable. They are very untouchable. Nope, Tanya's shaking her head. Not untouchable? No. Oh, let's do it. I've heard that. You know what? I've talked to a few people that know them. Spencer has told me that they are just lovely, approachable people. Okay. Which is crazy. I do think of them too as untouchable. But really, I think you're right, Tanya.

I think they're very approachable, especially when it comes to things like Doug. Can you imagine a photo of Doug, like, in one of their mansions with, like, the entire family? Yes. Just like, oh, like the, how they all stand there in their poses, like, and then Doug's doing the same, like, total boss pose. With, like, some diamonds or something, like, whatever. Something crazy. Doing duck lips. Oh, my. That would be insane.

Doug lips. Doug lips. Oh, that was good. I thought I'd get a laugh. I didn't know. I thought that was really good. I wanted to state the facts because we're talking like big time numbers here. Like you said, over 10 million followers across the social media, well over one billion Facebook views.

Like, I'm sorry, over a billion. I know. It's crazy. When we added it up and we realized it was a billion, you were like, oh, my God, we have to put this number everywhere. Yeah. And you're telling me he can't pose with the Kardashians. Like, is there any dog out there that has more followers than Doug? Don't give him credit or shout out.

There's one that has more on Instagram. But, I mean, collectively, I need to go, like, do some analytics. Yeah. I always think that, too, when you're saying that you can't just, like, put a picture out and make your dog famous. Because I'm like, how come Tucker doesn't? I'm like, oh, because we put no effort into it at all. We just, like, slap up a picture once in a while. But it's like with our iPhone.

We post two times a day every day. Do you really? We haven't missed a day in almost three years now. That is consistent. Yesterday I was super sick and, you know, we still had to, like, post something and we have certain times that we post and we try and do two videos a week when we can. That's such a time commitment. It is.

It's a lot of work. But Doug, it's so easy for him because we do all the work and he just, like, poses for 20 seconds. He just gets to chill. Yeah. That's so funny. No, doodle and Doug. Do we talk about this on the podcast or off? I can't remember.

We were just talking about this. I don't remember if we were on. but they need to have some sort of play date, but with something extra. Like I saw you guys did the goat yoga member, and you were like, Doodle Needs to do this. Yes. Tell me about it. The goat yoga is, I highly recommend it. What is it? What do they do?

They jump on you while you're doing yoga. And why you're so cute? It's amazing. It's stress relieving. You're just so happy. There's goats everywhere. I feel like it would be more stressful if a goat was jumping all over me doing yoga. I'm like, how is that relaxing?

Funny story, we've become friends with the people at shenan goats. and like over... Shenana goats. That's amazing. A few months ago, they brought the goats over to graze in our yard because we had some like bushes that were weeds or whatever and they're like, oh, we'll just bring the big goats over. So we had like 15 goats in our backyard.

Are your neighbors? Like what the hell? I mean, they get loud too. They're like, you know, whatever. I don't know if they bob. It's 15 goats. They make the weird goat noise. That's amazing.

And so they set up this electric fence thing like in our backyard so that the goats couldn't get through. Yeah. And Rob went to grab a drink with. with some of his friends and I look outside and what part of the fence had fallen so one of the goats got out. I'm like, oh my God, I got to get them back in. So I go out there and I try and fix the fence and the whole fence fell down. And all the goats got loose? They ran up on our back porch and started jumping on our patio furniture. Did you get a video?

Did you get a video? It was terrified. I called Rob. I FaceTime and I was like, you need to come home right now. That's not a phone call that most people get. No. Oh my gosh, what? Is that what they do when they're scared? They jump and pee? No, they just wanted to like perch. Oh. Yeah, but I mean, goat yoga is usually like the baby goats.

See, that doesn't sound relaxing. Do you mean, like goats jumping and peeing on me? Not so much. No, they won't pee. Maybe. I don't know. That is wild. I mean, I'm not against it.

I'll do it. But I don't know if I'm not excited about it. You'll like it. You'll come with me. We'll do it. It'll be good for the gram. Yeah, exactly. Got to do things for the gram sometimes.

Yeah. Instagram. I don't know if people got that, but the gram. Okay, I feel like this is probably the most typical question you ever get asked. But how did you start this? No, you know what? You've already answered how it started. But like, did you tell me about your job before and how it started where did you quit your job and just like be a full-time momager?

So, yeah. Tell me about that. I used to work at a little record label management company that's actually like 100 feet away. Oh, do you like laugh? now when you drive by. You're like, ha-huh. It's crazy. At the time, that was my dream job. So I, you know, went to Belmont for music business and I got an internship at this company and, you know, I worked so hard and I got promoted and I became my boss's assistant. So after I graduated, I started working for him and I basically did everything that I'm doing now for Doug for the artists. So I ran, you know,

day-to-day stuff. I did all their graphic design. I did, you know, PR, like social media. And it's just became like, you know, I love doing that stuff. Marketing has always been like my favorite thing. Yeah. So when I got Doug and I started posting photos of Doug on my Instagram, it was on my personal Instagram. Yeah. So people were following me just to see Doug the pug. Right. And I had like maybe 2,000, 3,000 followers at the time. But it became a thing where if I posted one of my personal photos, people would be like, where's Doug? Like unfollowing. I'm like, okay, first of all, this is my Instagram. Get off. See ya.

But, yeah, you know, Rob was the one who actually told me, like, you need to make Doug his own Instagram account and just see what happens. And it's so funny because at the time I was like, I don't want to be one of those annoying people that has an account for their dog. And now you live off it. I know. Now it's like literally my entire life. It's a career. Yeah. That was a career move right there.

Wait, I just realized my mom's name is Leslie and my stepdad's name is Rob. That's crazy. Yeah. Whoa. And they have a dog named. No, I'm just kidding. That'd be weird. But I just, sorry.

I just had to say it out loud. because that was weird. But that's cool because you had a passion anyways for like the marketing kind of thing. And now you get to do that with your own dog. Totally. I like would go at work when my boss would like leave for lunch and I would like come up with ideas for Doug the Pug. And I would like email people like, hey, can you feature Doug? And then once it started happening, I realized that like this is what I actually want to be doing.

But like at the time I thought I was just going to start a graphic design company because I didn't think that Doug would actually. work it was like my dream but I didn't know yeah and that's the thing is like there's so many animal accounts online oh so many hundreds of thousands of dogs or pigs or head chog like at tucker doodle dog on instagram follow Doug Doug endorsed yeah exactly endorsed by Doug the book it really is though but it's so funny because social media just like kind of takes over the world and it's it's the way of the world and it's how business is run and it's so crazy because I mean now it's like I said it's your career yeah and a passion So it's awesome.

There's so many local businesses out there that can benefit. Oh, my God, he's snoring. I don't know. It's great. It's perfect. I was hoping he would. Everyone can benefit from social media. Having a good online presence is, I think, the most important thing that you can do for any sort of personal brand or, like, you know, a business brand or if you have a restaurant.

Like, you have to have a good social media presence. See, I'm curious if I – Hi, Doug, we hear you. Amazing. Like, I feel like my social media presence. like I try to back off. I'm like, oh, I shouldn't post two days in a row. Am I doing that wrong? I would post often. I mean, that's, I mean, I think, you know, our world is so, like, people are just scrolling all day. So it's, when you pop up, you pop up for a second, but when you are seen by that person,

they're reminded that you even exist, you know, like, so the more that you post, the more relevant you are because you're showing up on their feed more. I suck at being relevant then, because I'm like, I need to stop posting. I did two, two in one day. Like that, I thought that was crazy talk. No. I mean, that's what works for us. I mean, we've, you know, been posting more on our personal's even and we've been growing our personal account. So it's just, it's interesting.

Yeah. I think even with Vine, you know, how it was like six seconds or whatever, it's just that's kind of the attention span of people. Yeah, you're so right. You just got to like, it's kind of sucks. It's sad. Yeah. It is really bad. But I totally get it because after six seconds, I'm like, I know, whatever.

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have to say this is so mean but my ex-boyfriend he had broken his nose like three times or something and he would do the same thing and we always called him a pug because oh my god he'd be sitting watching TV and I'm like, are you okay? Because they'd be sitting there watching TV, go, and it was so bizarre, but we called him a pug all the time because that's how he breathed. That's insane. Breathed? Yeah, that's a word. Okay, confessions. We need to get to the confessions. Okay, so every podcast, I get my guest to confess something to me. It's Caitlin's confessional booth. I would say it stays in here, but it doesn't. We've got a lot of listeners. But don't hold back.

We will wash away Doug's sins with wine and we'll all move on with our lives. So, I mean, what's Doug's, what's Doug's confession? You can tell me one of yours if you want, too, but I feel like, did he get into the garbage? Did he poop in the refrigerator? So I don't, tell me if this is not appropriate. But Doug's favorite stuffed animal is like a hedgehog, and not many people know this. But, like, it is the only toy that he'll even play with. It's pointless for us to have other toys because the only one he was just.

But it's become his girlfriend. And so he'll like, he doesn't care who was in the room. He will go at it. And we had a party like a month ago. And everyone was like sitting around and Doug was in the middle of the room going at it. And Rob and I were like, oh my God. People were like, don't take out your phones. Like you're not allowed to film this.

It's like TMZ exclusive. You should have got everyone to like sign contracts on their way. NDA. Do not speak about this. Oh, my gosh. Yeah. And he had no shame. He just went for it.

He doesn't care. I mean, I kind of admire him. He's just like, you know, whatever. Zero Fs. Yeah. He doesn't care. That's great. Well, you know what, Doug?

I'll wash away your sins after I tell you my confession. Well, is that it? I think so. Yeah, he's forgiven. He's forgiven for that. There are some people called in, like, told me some weird things. I'm like, I don't know if I forgive you for that. That one I can forgive.

Because, you know what, at the end of the day, he's a dog. True. Actually, my dog hump my leg today. And we call it giving me a hug because I don't like the turn. I was like, no, we can't call that Humping. Oh, you give me a hug? Thanks, but get the hell off me. Okay.

Wait, why is this in my notes? How many people captioned, why is this in there? This is so random. How many people caption picks with him pug life? I feel like I copy and pasted that in the wrong spot, but I mean, it's there. I mean a lot. Pug life. People will always comment.

We like try and do as many pug puns as possible, and it's, super easy like tomorrow's pug owing you know like so easy it's super easy but yeah a lot of people like we have merch this is pug life on it it's kind of like didn't someone write a song did you guys write a song or like do a music video or something weren't you writing a song in nashville about pug dug i don't think so what no i swear i saw you guys in like a studio oh that's for pug life oh for our like facebook show oh okay yeah so we yeah we do have a facebook show called Pug Life. Okay.

See, I don't even know where I am. That's okay. We're both sick. We're both on Dake Will. And that's okay. Okay, my confession, I'm going to have a tough time getting this one out. I couldn't finish my glass of wine last night. Oh, no.

I couldn't do it. I couldn't do it. I'm really ashamed about this one. Is Doug, is he looking at me? What is he doing? He was like this. Oh, he heard. Doug says you're not forgiven.

We eventually will get cameras, 360 cameras, in the studio, so we can see what's going on. But Doug just went when he heard that I couldn't finish my glass of wine. He does get it. He gets it. His eyes are wide open. I was sick. I just couldn't do it. And that's how you know I'm really sick is when I can't finish a glass of wine.

So there, I said it. Oh, I feel so much better. Well, I told you I get drunk on kombucha. We should have brought that. I mean, I, like, actually can't drive. We call it booching and driving because I can't booch and drive. What is it? What's in there?

Hi, Doug. Like, the fermented tea, like, gives you some sort of alcohol content, and it's very minimal, but I guess I'm not much of a lightweight to where it, like, affects me. And I get, like, a buzz. I was like, I don't get it. I can chug, like, eight of those, and I feel nothing. But that makes sense. My tolerance is embarrassing.

Okay, well, I'm going to, nobody's drinking here with me, so I'm going to wash away my sins by myself. And for you, Doug. This one's for you. He's making so many noises. That's okay. That's good because I have misophonia. And when he makes noises, it kind of drowns out the noise of me drinking.

Like, I can't send the sound of like, like. Whoa. What is he doing over there? I don't know. Just waltzing around. He was going after her glass of wine. Oh. Doug, you are my kind of man.

Anytime there's like a beer. open, he tries to drink the beer. You know what, Tucker likes the smell of alcohol, too. Hi, Doug. He's back. Let him talk. So, Doug. I was going to finish, but okay.

Yep, just take over, I guess. It's your show, Doug. Your world. We're just living in it. Totally. Tell me more. Sit down. I mean, just that right there is just pure gold in my mind.

He sheds so much and I always wear black and I'm just like always like covered in hair. Oh, same. I just embrace the dog hair all over me. I carry a lint roller in my purse, but there's no point. It just happens like two seconds later. Yeah. I want to know how you feel about people like being a little bit overwhelming. Like I guess when I'm around Tucker, if we've ever brought him to like events, I get very protective.

And I can't stand like people being all over him and taking photos. and just being like, wah-ha, in his face, because I don't know if he's scared. Does Doug just embrace it? Because he's, like, meant to be famous, so I feel like that's okay with him. But do you get annoyed ever? Not annoyed, but, like, overwhelmed? It's a lot easier in, like, a controlled situation. Like, when we have our book tour events, you know, we'll have, like, 800.

Wait, can you just think about what you said out loud there when you have your book tour events? Because Doug is a New York's best time-selling author. Yep. We had an event in London. a year ago and he sold it out to the point where they couldn't let 300 people in because there were so many people and we always make this joke like the Kardashians we were chased away in our cab by fans trying to get photos of him and it felt like super surreal but to answer your question like Doug is super super amazing when it comes to those kinds of things like a bunch

of people but there are times when like if we don't have it super organized and it's just you know kind of out and about there will be the worst is when there's drunk people, they'll try and grab him from my arms. We've had, like, I've almost, you know, thrown down. Yeah, yeah, drop the gloves. Because they will try and grab him. I'm like, no, I'm holding him. And then they'll, like, get mad at me.

And I'm like, do you realize that this is my dog? He's not an object. Like, you can take a photo with him. It's not a prop. No, exactly. And, yeah, we're very, very protective over him. And if anyone, what are you doing? Look at him.

He's staring at you. I know. His tail's right. I'm staring back. You are the cutest. Look at him. He's like a little boo-in. Do you ever need like a dog sitter?

Yeah. Oh, okay. Just saying. Yeah. I'm pretty good with dogs. Doug can come visit you on Broadway. Okay. What a great idea.

We'll get a picture of him on stage on Broadway. Oh, my God. In front of the sign. Yes. That hasn't been done, has it? No. Okay. I'm on it.

I'm starting to do this troll call thing where I talk about like mean tweets. Oh, man. Call him out. Has Doug? Does Doug get mean tweets? On occasion. It's mostly on Facebook, though. Like, we have... It's a nasty place.

Facebook can get pretty nasty. It's weird. We've kind of, like, stopped getting them, but, like, in the beginning, when he first went viral or whatever, there were a lot of crazy people. They're just, you know, saying that Doug was abused and he was clearly unhappy. Or, like, we'll post photos of Doug, like, next to pizza or donuts or whatever. And he's just, like, has this disposition where he's just, like, has this disposition where he's, He doesn't try and go for the food somehow.

But people think that that's all dog eats. They think that I give him a diet of pizza. And they're like, how dare you? You're such an irresponsible dog owner only feeding your dog junk food. And we're just like, it's just kind of funny. You're like, it's for the gram, yo. Yeah, exactly. It's for the gram.

For the gram. Give me a break. The Domino's guy, like, knows us too well because we're just like, oh, we need to piece pizza for the photo. And I have a gluten allergy and a dairy allergy, so I can't even eat the pizza. So Rob is like, well, I guess I'll eat the pizza. Might as well That's so funny

Yeah I feel like Whatever people see Like I talked about this on another Could you guys Cut the crap over the I'm just kidding You get there

No selfies right now Okay You can laugh But you can't whisper Cut it out Just kidding Not really Wait what was it

Oh yeah Like wine for my podcast Obviously I have a glass While I do my podcast but everyone thinks I'm a raging alcoholic when I'm like I get a glass of wine for pictures because it's part of my brand you know exactly it's on brand to have a glass

of wine you're not just constantly drinking wine it's like Doug's not constantly eating pizza it's so stupid yeah exactly now people will hey try try being on national television when they think everything that you're doing is true it's not people

I just don't get over that he gets mean tweets like P.S it's a I know. You're not going to hurt his feelings. You're going to hurt his owner's feelings, but come on. People are nuts. They're the worst. I really let it get to me in the beginning. Sometimes they'll be like so personal and they'll attack me. And then I'll be like, I'm not a bad dog owner, am I? And then Rob was like, no, don't listen to them. Oh, yeah, no, you can't listen. No, but like they really know how to cut it you personally. Oh, really? I'm sure you get, you don't. Yesterday I had a woman tell me, I'm not trying to body shame you, but your body does look like you're addicted to crack cocaine. I'm not even lying. I took a screenshot. I'll show you later. I'm like, oh, that's so nice. That's totally not body shaming.

Crap, okay. I mean, that's aggressive. It's a little over the top. That's a little over the top. I remember actually talking to you at the Shorty Awards, and you said that Doug's vet told him he had to lose a couple LBs. Oh, he's past. He's lost.

Okay, because he's on his raw food diet now. And that's really made a difference? You took him off the Zaw? Oh, yeah, I remember the shorthy words, we, like, had to desperately, like, get him to lose, like, a little weight before fitting in his, like, tucks harness. So we just, like, would take him on longer walks and he lost it. Oh, it's amazing. He's so lazy. It's hard to, like, he never really actively wants to go, like, run outside or walk.

So we're, like, no, Doug, you have to be active. He doesn't, I mean, it looks great. Thank you. He looks great. For a pug, he's very healthy. Some of them get real big. Really? Not trying to body shame them.

No, no body shaming on this podcast. You're just saying that some of them are bigger. Yeah. Bigger boned. Unhealthy. Bigger boned. I'm trying to use the politically correct term. Bigger boned for a dog.

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N-O-M-N-O-M-N-O-W.com with promo code vine. Happy birthday to us. Happy birthday to us. That's right. The Lady Ang podcast is turning one. 100. We have laughed, cried, giggled, unfiltered through 100 episodes, and we want you to join us for our 100th birthday extravaganza. We're looking back at all the best moments, the funniest moments, the best advice we got from our 100 guests, and we want you to join us. So come find us on Tuesday, and you can find us exclusively at podcast.com or the new Podcast One app. And don't forget to rate and review us on Apple Podcasts so we can feel famous. This is Off the Vine with Caitlin Bristow. I was going to say at the beginning of the podcast, I was going to say,

I'm going to get through this whole podcast without losing my spot and my notes, because I do it every time I get lost. I'm like, where am I? I'm going to. But I just did it. I got lost. Oh, yeah, that's what I was going to say. Talking about the people getting trolled and even dogs,

because Doug cannot be at that level of fame without haters. True. That says a lot. It comes with the territory. He's just out there, like, starring in Katie Perry's music videos. That was crazy. Can you tell me about that? Like you got a call and they're like, hey, do you want to be in, does Doug want to be in Katie Perry's music video?

We got an email on a Friday and they wanted us to fly out Monday and Monday was my birthday. So we literally had, and it was crazy because they have a production team of hundreds of people. So like getting an answer back like, hey, like what do you need us to bring for a costume? No answer. Hey, like where are our flights? And like the night before at like 1 a.m. They sent us the flights. So it was just like, it was just crazy.

I mean, you know how it is, but it's funny because Gaten Matarazzo, is that how you say his name, from Stranger Things, Dustin, the curly-haired kid. I like how everyone assumes I just watcher things, but I have no idea. Really? No. I got to watch it. I know. But he was there, and it was funny because, like, we were watching the second season last night, and he's, like, exactly how he is in real life on the show. Yeah.

Oh, that's cool. But it was a good experience. It was just, like, we were there for 30 hours and only filmed for 20 minutes. Oh, my gosh. So we got to know that green room. Oh, yeah. Did you get to meet Katie? Briefly, yeah.

So would you say your team Katie or do you have to say that? You know there's Team Taylor and Team Katie? Doug's like Team Whoever gives me the paycheck. Doug is team whoever is happy to take a photo with him. Imagine Doug in a Taylor Swift video. Oh, my God. That would be wild. It's funny.

On my time hop or the Facebook memories or whatever, I met her at the Harris Teeter, like on 21st, like six years ago when I was a freshman. in college and I like just got out of the gym and I was like can I have a photo I looked so weird and she looked so young that whatever yeah to picture with Kate you're talking about Katie Perry right Taylor Swift oh Taylor yeah okay calm down Caitlin I got a little too I'm like I've met her too and for some reason that just totally like excited me way more than it should have she's so tall I know she's I mean I'm short but I'm sure too yeah I met her at the billboard awards when I had it was the two bachelorets against each other

so Britt and I got to go to the billboard awards together and we're like those girls like can we take a picture with you yeah and we had to like ask her bodyguard but she was really cool because she's like I can't believe there's two of you and she did like face in the photo was pretty cool I was like we're friends I wonder if she'd take a photo with Doug I know she's a cat person but Doug is kind of like a cat

he purchased oh yeah she is a cat person you're right you could just dress them as a cat Oh, what a great idea. As a, what's her cast name, Olivia? Oh, so, yeah. As a big T. Swift guy, I should know that, but. I know too much about pop culture from, like, Doug's accounts. All I do is follow, like, celebrities and stuff.

Right, because you have to. You got to keep up with it. I know too much. I'm like, do I really, I don't even know this person, but I know so much about you. Yeah. Oh, that's part of following people. It's a creepy thing, but we all do it. We all do it.

Okay, so last night I was talking to Sean. We always talk about what Tucker would sound like. If he has a voice, I have to pull up, like, a YouTube clip or something so that we can hear it. But do you guys know who Rodney Dangerfield is? I feel like my young listeners will not know who that is. So I'm going to pull up. But do you feel like, have you ever talked about that? What Doug would sound like if he had, like, I feel like he'd be British.

We actually talk to smoke a cigarette. British. Yeah. Really? We actually talk about it all the time. It's either like an Aziz Ansari or like a Morgan Freeman, just like a. Oh my gosh. Yes.

Both of those. A lot of people say New Yorker. What? Kevin Hart. Oh, yeah, Kevin Hart. That's a good one. Yeah. Okay, I could totally see Kevin Hart.

Wouldn't that be amazing? But yeah, I don't know why I pictured Doug being British holding a cigarette. But because now that you say Kevin Hart, I'm like, that's it. That's the one. He's classy enough. No, you're right. He's like very... He's too gangster.

Yeah. Doug's too gangster to be British. That pug life. Pug life, hashtag. Do people slide into Doug's DMs? Yeah. Like, like... Well, I have it to where I don't get like notifications anymore.

anymore from people that like we I mean I'm sure you do the same but people that you don't follow like like dog boners oh my god no not I went there I crossed the line I crossed the line there was a pug once and I hope they're not listening but they made an account of like their name on Instagram was like the slutty pug or something and it was like fighting for dug the pug's attention and like the captions were too raunchy for these photos like weird things appeared in the photos. And I was like, okay, not going to, like, I'm going to block you. Oh, slutty pug would slide into Doug's DMs. This is great. They were like vibrators in the photos. And she's like, waiting for Doug. I'm like, okay, this is just weird. Like, I don't want to know

who this owner is. Thank you for sharing the story. This is exactly what I was hoping you would say. I wondered that because, I mean, he's on that level where he gets the creepy DMs and the fact that a slutty pug slid right in there and talked about vibrators just makes this segment all worth it. Well, you know, it's like these, you know, probably bored. I don't even know who the owner would be, but they're just like wanting Doug to acknowledge their existence. Yeah. I mean, cool. And Doug was like not having it.

It's just funny because I have to scroll through them. He's like, I'm not classy, but I got some class. He had to scroll and like, I have to look at them and Doug doesn't even know. I'm like, I don't really want to see this. Like, thanks. Oh, DMs. Always a good DM story. out there, you know? Do you have any? Oh. Oh, I'm sure you get creep. Well, I mean, I get the occasional

creep, but mostly really sweet girls, to be honest. Oh, that's good. Yeah. Yeah, we get a lot of, I mean, amazing messages. Yeah. I'm actually surprised how nice the DMs are. You get some really nasty ones, obviously, but there's some nice ones in there. Do you ever, like, call them out when you get a nasty one? Oh, hell yeah. Yeah. I've done that a few times when they've, like, really dug in. Like, if we do an ad or something like we try and do them like very sparingly and like yeah we'll only do it if it really makes sense for the brand or whatever but sometimes people well it's like we pay you know for all of the costumes and stuff and this one girl was just like you're so greedy and blah blah blah and i wrote back like a very nice but like no yeah and she was like i'm so sorry to be honest

i was really bored like she totally admitted it and like there was one time we were at a concert with Doug and literally running through the venue trying to get to like the backstage area so that he wouldn't have to like be with the loud music and we have headphones for him but we still wanted him back there and this mom with her like younger daughter we were so far away from her she goes Doug and I'm like hi like if you want a photo like come find us later we'll be around and she posts on his Facebook this nasty thing calling me she called me like the C word and like her she was so rude she refused to get a photo with us just because And I called her out.

And then she also apologized. I'm sorry. I'm just so I'm here at the concert. I don't really want to be here. I'm like, so you're going to attack me on the internet? It always boils down to these people, just have other issues, and they're taking it out on you. Every time. But I just can't ever, like, put myself in their shoes.

Like, I would never be like, I always think that terrible. I could never put myself in their shoes. With the ad thing, like, people get mad about ads. I'm like, do you yell at the radio when ads come on? are like, do you yell at your TV when a commercial comes on? Like, are you really that angry that you can't handle an advertisement? It's ridiculous. We would all do the same.

Can you not? Oh, what a segue. What a segue. Which leads me to my next segment. Can you not? Dog edition. I was going to do, I asked the people on Twitter. Should I do, can you not about dogs or can you not about dog owners?

And they all said dog owners. And then they all went to town on like, like, totally bashing dog owners and I was like well this backfired like what you're insulting me in every tweet because you're like can you not call your dog your baby and I'm like what can you not attack me on Twitter because

that's all I have like he is they are babies let us have that I know can you know? Can you know Doug Doug is my baby I don't care who knows it I'm right there with you they're like can you not say like mom will be right back I'm like I just did that five minutes we tell Doug like okay we're going out. We're going to be gone for one hour. We, like, listen to some podcast or something that says, like, dogs can kind of understand, I mean, I don't know if it's, like, real enough, but they can understand, like, a time frame if you, like, tell them. So we're always like, well, we're going to this store. We'll be back in an hour. And then, like, he instantly goes to his bed and relaxes. So that, like, you put on classical music. You put on classical music. And it's weird because we'll, we have a nest. We're doing the wrong thing. We, we have a nest cam that, like, we can see Doug. Oh, we're gone. Us too. But he'll come to the. But he'll come to the. But he'll come to the. We'll come to the. But he'll come to the. But he'll come to the. But he'll come to the. We'll come to the. But he

door when we're on our way home like he'll come he knows it's an hour hmm see this is my whole can you not turn into like no can you not yeah like step off yeah to dog people who are not dog people can you not so I thought we do things that dogs do that you're like can you not like how Doug humped his in front of our whole yeah group of friends and he does it like in front of my mom sometimes and she like freaks out she's like this little Spanish lady that's like I know And I'm like, oh, God, my mom is freaking out. This is not good. Okay, Doug, like, can you not?

And I love how I'm wearing my can you not sweater, except it's spelled with a C, like C-A-N, but I do can, like, the candle. Shut up, Caitlin. Okay, like, what was my other can you not? Oh, when dogs lick themselves, like uncontrollably and then they come to lick your face and you're like, um. Can you not? Can you not? Yeah. Do that?

Can you not use your teeth to play with other teeth? dogs? Why do they do that? Like, smoke other dogs in the head of their teeth? What? Is that fun? Is that fun? I might, I don't know. I just saw it on Twitter, so I repeated it. Can you not? And then they get like drool all over it. It's just gross. It's just gross. What else does Doug do that? You're like, can you not?

Yeah. Can you not shed all over me? It's. It's. Sneezing in your face. Sneezing. Oh, my God. Why is it always in your face? Like, every time you get in their face they sneeze or on our food yeah I had like a speech a few weeks ago and like at the end of the speech people were coming up to me to like meet Doug and take photos and this woman goes hi Doug and he goes like straight and I saw the stream of like the just the and she was not very happy about it if you're listening I'm sorry I still think about it and I was like oh I am so sorry

and I was like pugs do that sometimes and she was all like Kenyon she turned around and walked away. I was like, great. Well, it's not your fault. I know. Can you not get a boner in public, Tucker? Does he do that? Yeah, because that's what he does when he gets excited. Like, he doesn't know. And Sean gets mad at me. He's probably mad at me right now for you saying that. He's, he gets mad at me because I'm like, I get mad at Tucker and he's like, he can't help it. It's natural. Yeah. And Sean's always like, good boy when he does it. What? What? Nothing. Bad mouth and tuck. Hey, you weren't invited to the podcast, okay, Sean?

Well, you have my keys. He's been redrocking. He's had, like, three today. Doug? Yeah. Oh. See, he's excited. Can you not?

Can you not, don't? No, you can hang. I'm just kidding, Sean. I like when you're in the room. Your haircut looks great. Oh, thanks. You're welcome. I can't really see it because you have a hat on, but it still looks good.

My last one is, can you not look at me like. I'm the worst dog owner in the world when I leave the house. Oh, my God. It's the saddest thing in the world. So Rob and I have not, like, gone on a trip without Doug since all this stuff started with Instagram and everything. Well, because you can't miss that photo op. Well, exactly.

But, like, what are we going to do when we get married and we have to go on a honeymoon? You drop Doug off at Auntie Caitlin's. True. And you have a great time. True. But I, like, I feel like the whole time we're going to be, like, Doug's at home. And this is why people need to understand that if you don't have kids, you can treat your dog like kids because they mean so much to you and they're like your world. Yeah.

And you take care of them and you keep them alive and they're your babies. So anyone who isn't a dog lover out there, just stop listening to my podcast. Just kidding. Don't. I love you guys. I love you all. But yeah, you can drop them off anytime. Okay. I'll keep that in mind. We're going to get to some questions from listeners. But first I'm going to talk about figs.

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And Sean Booth wants to know. John Booth wants to know. What's Doug Bean for Halloween? For Puggoine. So we've been getting this question a lot recently. And like, it's really hard because a whole year is Halloween. for Doug so we don't even like have a costume for tomorrow we're just gonna like what you you just have a closet and tickle trunk full of things you choose from true we need to figure um but like

we did the it video this month then we've we've done a ton of costumes this month so you're off the hook Doug is everything for Halloween you have options yeah you have options we have too many options I have to cough I'm gonna do it too oh lovely everybody take a cough break oh gosh i hope that doesn't make it i always say like oh this will be edited out and then people like how come you always say that and the things aren't edited out i'm like that's a great question i'm not sure we'll see what happens though uh okay amelia paltow wants to know how old is doug dog he's five he's five yeah oh yeah he's a great age he's in the prime of his life people always say that for kids oh that's such a fun age

that's what I was saying to Doug What a fun age. Five? That's such a fun age. Amber Kershaw wants to know if Doug has ever been snapped by the paparazzi. Did I already ask you that? No.

Yes. He has? Stuff that. We've been on Getty images and I was like, oh, we made it. That's amazing. Where was? The Victoria's Secret thing, the Chrissy Teagan.

Oh, yeah. So that's a good story. I did see that somewhere. This was like, it's funny. People magazine, like, did something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's before Doug even went viral. He had like 10,000 followers on Instagram and like maybe 2,000 on Twitter.

But I tweeted her when she was in Nashville. It's like, I want to meet you. And she's like, oh, my God, smushy because she loves like bulldogs and pugs and stuff. And so she like had me and Rob was on tour at the time because he used to be a touring musician and like was all over the world and just like playing drums. Wow. So he was gone. That's cool. And I was in Nashville and had to go downtown and like,

wait outside with Doug for Chrissy Teigen. Stump. And she gets out of the car and literally comes to me, grabs Doug from my arms and starts walking down the red carpet. And I feel a tap on my shoulder and I turn around and it's John Legend. Oh, no big deal. And he goes, oh, hi, I'm John. We love pugs.

And I talked to him about pugs and bulldogs. And it was just like literally just him just like standing like so normal. And then she came back over to talk to me after and like the nicest like exactly how you think they would be yeah like her brand is spot on because she's like that cool that's awesome um but that was crazy i love hearing that i have heard that about her yeah it makes me so happy when like a public figure is actually like i know i get so depressed when i hear story it's so sad oh you like your butt scratch too yeah funny story we're going to the latin grammies in Vegas in a few weeks are you really so uh we were just in barcelona because shikira flew him out

Oh, my God. Of course she did. Like, no lie. Like, just her label hit us up and they're like, we want you to go to Barcelona to take some photos with Shakira. We literally, let me think about it. Okay. We went all the way there just for a photo shoot. And we went to her mansion. She was also incredible. And she's dating or is married to Gerard Piquet, who's like one of the top soccer players in the world. He plays for Barcelona. And he was there and her kids were playing with Doug. And it was just like so surreal. and she's actually grew up in Paranquia, Colombia, and that's where my mom, like, lived. Oh, you said that's so good.

Wow. But, like, that was sexy. Thank you. I got more than camera. Hey, oh, hey, oh. Okay, go on. Shakira literally said to me, like, I feel like I've met you before. And I was like, oh, that's an honor, Shakira.

But now we're going to go back to the Grammys and we'll see her again. And, like, now we'll be friends. Oh, yeah, now you're friends. Now it'll be, like, cool. Yeah. But, like, the label, you know, has J-Lo and Ricky Mark. And so I'm like, I don't even know who we're going to meet. But Doug is getting a custom, you know, at the shorter awards, how he had that tucks, the same woman is making him a harness, but it's going to be like a shirt, like a shirt, and it has like a belt, but she's making him a six-pack.

Oh, my gosh. That's incredible. It's on its way. I'm so excited. I'll have to text you a photo. Oh, please, deal. Oh, my gosh. I mean, what a life.

It's crazy. And those things are so fun because it's like literally, like, something like this. Like Doug just goes around and hanging out with people And it's like so easy You walk down on carpet and then you're just kind of hanging And it's so fun It's just funny that he is a celebrity And it is nice that you get to just be like

You know you don't have to be on all the time Doug does Exactly I mean you got a hard job Yeah when it comes to Instagram but Babe we got to make Tucker more famous and get Get on the picture Well we got to do the collab That's going to be the kickstart and I'm going to help you like edit the bio

and stuff to be more like, but we got to plan it to like the right time to launch. Yeah. Time means everything. Yeah. It's going to be the new and improved Tucker Doodle. Tucker 2.0. We'll make a new Instagram, Tucker 2.0. Oh my gosh. Okay. I forgot we were in questions. Stephanie wants to know where Doug's favorite place to travel was. Ooh. So we just got back from Oregon and that's where Rob proposed. Oh. He loves any place with like a beach, like an open beach that he can just run on. Oh, yeah. Um, we like going to L.A. with Doug for work, too, because it's so, like, dog friendly.

Yes. I love dogs. So nowhere cold. Have you ever taken him to Europe? They are so, so dog friendly there. We can, like, bring them into restaurants and they're like bringing them a water bowl. They love it. I wish it was like that everywhere. I know, me too. It's okay. We're all coughing around here. It's fine. Uh, Nicole's question is a little controversial.

Oh. Does Doug like pineapple on his pizza? Doug likes any kind of pizza so yeah But we don't feed it to him No It's all a probe Yeah Steve wants to know

Just Steve He wants to know how you get him to pose for photos around food Because he has two pugs who aren't patient That's what we hear from like literally every pug owner And I think it's just because since he was a puppy I would like snap photos of him next to the food And he knows like if he's taking a photo He's not allowed to eat it

but we also have like treats that will hold up like to make him look at the camera so like he wants the treat I mean there are sometimes when he like does go for the pizza I mean I don't blame him yeah so I mean who wouldn't love to the time this is the funniest name I've ever seen on Twitter especially for a dog question barky pants but wait wait I'm not done barky pants C137 Like, what? Big dog. What's their avatar? Or they're like, what's their photo? It was the egg.

Which is really unfortunate. Yeah. I know I really wanted. That's a missed opportunity. Total misopportunity. I really wanted to see a photo that was with barkey pants. Well, a dog wearing pants. Yeah.

That should be it. I'm going to reach back out and suggest some branding opportunities for barkey pants. He wants to know if Doug's a big stick guy or big balls guy. So Doug's like. the least dog dog like he literally won't do fetch he won't he can't swim he's so top heavy then just sink forward oh that's adorable um so he just literally only plays with his hedgehog which we've played plays exactly i mean he like we can't go on a trip without it he'll just like cuddle with it it's his comfort it's his comfort thing exactly that's really funny tugger

doesn't really like toys he'll like just rip them apart and then he's over it yeah Again, thank you guys so much for listening to Off the Vine. I'm just going to review the sponsors so you can maybe jot down the deals that I've given you. Like Bright Sellers, you can get 50% off your first box, brightsellers.com slash off the vine. Figs, the scrubs, you can get 20% off your order of medical scrubs if you go to WearFigs.com slash Vine promo code Vine. Nom, nom, now. Say that to not. No, no, no, no.

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Bark your pants I would encourage everybody in the room to laugh What does Doug and my phone have in common What's that? They both have caller ID It's one of those like you smirk but you don't really laugh You're like, huh, that's pretty good All right, well Wait, wait, we have to talk about Doug's calendar Yeah

I have one right here in my hands Clearly it's Doug laying on a pizza Yes Didn't eat the pizza Just to prop people Don't get your panties in a knot Oh gosh, this is amazing I'm looking at the back of it

This is my favorite one, New Year's same pug I won't give out all the secrets But where can they get the calendar? Everywhere, it's on Amazon It's at the ball Like the booths in the mall that's about to come out. Oh, my gosh. Yeah.

Oh, okay. So they can get it anywhere. It's Doug the Pug 18 month calendar, 2018. We also, we have a desk calendar, a mini wall calendar. What other merch you got? A lot. Does Doug have a website? Yeah.

Oh, I should know this. Doug the Pugstore.com. We just launched the new merch store. But he has a new line with American Greetings coming out soon. We don't exactly know when. But his cup was just in Walmart. which is crazy because we like we posted about it and then they like it was a very limited run so they sold out of everything and I was getting hate emails like how dare you like I've been

to eight Walmarts and they can't find them oh gosh Walmart people attacking oh no I was terrifying I'm sorry like I'm just relaying the message it's a cup it's a scary world we live in it's a very cute cup so I get it oh my gosh that's and people can still buy like Doug's book on Amazon and everything. His book is up there. His coloring book is highly recommended. It relieves stress. Oh, one of those. Yeah. I love those. But it's really cute. It's like Doug going throughout the world eating different foods. So he's like in Rome eating, you know, spaghetti or like. Oh my gosh. It's really cool. You guys are just, is geniuses a word? Yeah. I'll just say you're a genius. Sean, stop looking at me like that. Judging me from across the room. Okay, everybody.

It's all the time we have. I could talk about this for days, but we'll just get a photo and put it out there and see what happens. Yep. Thanks, everybody, for being a part of this podcast today. This is a full room, full crowd. Way to sell it. Way to sell it, guys. Okay, everybody, this comes out on Halloween, so have a safe Halloween.

Yeah. Pug-O-Wing. Pug-O-Win is what I meant to say. Stupid. So I have a little treat for everybody. It's a surprise guest. I've got Victoria Shade from Pet MD Life with Pets podcast. She is a dog trainer, an author, and the lead animal wrangler at Puppy Bowl.

Okay, favorite guest ever. Introduce yourself. Hi, Victoria. Hey, Caitlin, and Off the Vine Peeps. I'm so happy to be here. Oh, my gosh. I have so many questions for you. Like, you kind of have like the ultimate job title.

Like dog trainer, author, lead animal wrangler at puppy bowl. Can you just explain Puppy Bowl to the person? people for a second. Do you have a couple hours? You know. So puppy bowl, I've been involved with the show. You know, I'm really bad at record keeping. So I'm always fudging the date. I'm going to say it's been 13 years at this point. Okay. So way back to the almost the very beginning. And my role, and by the way, did you hear that little scratch scratch? That's one of my dogs saying, please let me out of the studio. I'm sick of this. Hi, puppy. Bye, Olive. So my role is the lead animal wrangler, which is primarily the puppies, but I'm lucky because I'm puppy bowl, I also

get to work with the kittens. So if you've seen the show, my work on the show, it's really all about the puppies, but my work would be when they're introduced onto the field. So they come running down the tunnel and onto the field and they say, oh, this is Tucker Doodle, you know, he's six months old, blah, blah, blah, we wish, right? I wish. And so when those dogs come running onto the field, I am actually squatting on the far end of the field going puppy, puppy, poppy, poppy, poppy, come to me, come to me. So they actually walk across the field so all the cameras can capture the action. Oh. So that's like one of my big jobs, one of my many jobs on the show.

That is so cool. I feel like Tucker Doodle would not listen to you. Girl, come on. I get the magic. I'm not, this is like, like, Sean, he worships Sean and Tucker Doodle does what he wants. If Sean is like, no, Tucker, you get. over here you do this he doesn't listen like he literally doesn't listen to anybody and we always picture like putting him in something like that and he would be the dog that just like have you seen

that youtube video or something there's a video where a golden comes out and he's not supposed to eat all the treats and he just picks up yeah that would be Tucker and i would love to see i would love to see you work your magic with Tucker and i would love you to give me some advice for um running the show because doodle runs our show well you know i i'm definitely i have time tons of tips and secrets. One of the things, when it comes to dogs running the show, I'm not like an old school trainer where it's like, oh, you have to be the boss no matter the cost. I am definitely the benevolent dictator and I'm all about fun and treats and making the dog

want to work for you. I think that's the big thing. Like, when you were talking about Sean saying, get over here right now, think about it. If I said you, get over here, Caitlin, would you be really excited to come to me? I'd be like, you know what? The last thing I want to do is get over there. exactly so it's all about making it something like making it so he has no choice he's like oh my god that is the best thing going to you guys is awesome good things happen when i go to you i get treats does he like

to play is he into games oh loves it right so there's your reward like if he likes tug or fetch you you call him over to you really happy tone of voice when he gets to you look hey here's a tug toy look i'm going to throw your tennis ball for you so you turn it into a game and make it worth his while really and you're going to see things turn around you're right because sean 98% of the time is just the most loving like like we'll do anything for Tucker and that's what Tucker does respond well to and it is the times or if he's misbehaving and we are like hey Tucker you get over here that's the time he doesn't oh my gosh he's so smart do is our golden retrievers like up there in the smartest dog category you know people who are my biased what's your favorite dog to

train or what's the easiest dog to train and I don't like generalizing like i don't like saying like oh border collies are the smartest they kind of are but in any case um i i like to look at the dog before me and make my judgment based on that dog so what you've told me what you've said about him he's loving it sounds like he's really clever oh you hear that sounds like he's really smart um he just needs the right kind of inducement to work for you treats too i didn't mention treats um freeze dried liver is a super motivator. Most dogs love it. Okay. You know, a lot of people, like, they buy

grocery store treats that are kind of bland and boring. But if you get stuff like the stuff that makes your hand greasy, that's the stuff they love. That's the stuff they love. Okay, I have another question for you, actually. Tucker is, he was so good with dogs his whole life and all of a sudden now he is

very angry when other dogs come around and seems very protective, and it's like tough to take him to a dog park or have him play with other dogs because he's so protective and gets a little bit, I don't want to say vicious because he's not a vicious dog, but I'm like, what is going on? Is there something we could do to change that? Well, you know, I think it's less about changing him and more about recognizing what he's telling you. At nine years old, he probably has some aches and pains that you don't even know.

Dogs are so stoic. They don't necessarily say like, oh, God, my arthritis, my sciatic is killing me. He's just going to roll with it. Right. So that might be, sometimes. it's just a reaction to like holy crap there's all these dogs running around like idiots they're younger than me they're going to run into me and hurt me so back off wait that's such a good point because tucker has a bad back and it's always really sore for him and sometimes he doesn't want to walk and he'll put his paw on the leash like nope i ain't going to anywhere don't take me on this walk and maybe that's what he's feeling like maybe weak around other dogs yeah and they're not just weak but just like preventative like oh god they're going to crash into me, and that hurts. And I saw that video, by the way, it is the cutest freaking

thing. Isn't it? I'm like sitting here listening to all your advice. I'm like, what are you, a dog trainer, author, and lead animal rang girl of a puppy bowl or something? Gosh. Why, yes, I am. You're so knowledgeable. And you have your own podcast, too, which people should obviously tune into. Is it your full name, like Victoria Shade, Pet BMD, or what is the exact title of your podcast? So let me give you the rundown on the podcast. So it's PetMD's Life with pets. Yes. I am Victoria Shade, dog trainer, dog writer, honorary cat lady. I don't have any cats, but I do love them. So the show is basically a mix of fun and facts. And every week we have a different theme. So like we talk about pit bulls. I love pit bulls. We talk about canine, feline cognition,

behavior problems. And then everything on the episode relates back to that overarching theme or topic. So I have different subject matter experts come on. I have veterinary. I have researchers, best-selling authors. I'm fan-girling over the people that are coming on this show. And then in each episode, sometimes I have a storyteller come on. They have really compelling stories about their life with pets. And then I'll answer PetMD's Facebook. They have questions there.

I'll answer one of those questions. And then every episode ends with a segment called Try This at Home, where the stuff we talked about, listeners can actually put that stuff to work with their own pet. So they can try at home what they learned on the show. Oh. Amazing. So it's a ton of fun and I'm actually learning stuff. Wait. That's, I'm talking to these experts. It's, it's amazing. Sean, I am going to get him hooked on your podcast. This is like, you should have him as a guest because he would die to talk to you about Tucker for however long you have. I would love that. Okay. Let's. Yeah. We're going to make that happen. We are going to set that up. I really appreciate you coming on my podcast and giving me your info. I could talk to you all day about this kind of stuff. So let's do it again sometime.

I would love to Thank you so much, Victoria. Thanks, Caitlin. And if you guys don't want to miss an episode, download the Podcast One app, go to Podcast1.com or subscribe on Apple Podcasts. And I'm Caitlin Bristow, and I'll see you next Tuesday. Thanks for listening to Off the Vine with Caitlin Bristow.

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