Off The Vine with Kaitlyn Bristowe - Dr. Chris Strandburg (a.k.a. Cupcake)

Episode Date: July 17, 2017

Dentist and former Bachelorette contestant Chris Strandburg gets sauced up by Kaitlyn and talks about their memories of the season, from the vehicle behind his infamous nickname to their sunset break up, and they weigh in on which of Rachel's suitors will win her heart and who will go on to their own Bachelor seasons. Also, Chris gives Kaitlyn some fancy new teeth! See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Now here's Caitlin. Okay, everybody, welcome to Off the Vine. I'm your host, Caitlin Bristow, aka Rick Daddy, in the house, drinking wine to numb my pain today because I decided it was a good idea to go see the dentist after a few years of not going. Don't judge me. I had a couple of teeth fixed, some fillings, whitened the old jibs, and I was inspired to get this done because of a guy that you may remember. he had one of the most legendary Bachelorette limo entrances, if you ask me, I might be biased, except there was no limo, there was a cupcake, and I was the lucky lady at the other end of the driveway who got to witness that first hand. Sometimes they say you're a dance instructor, sometimes they say you're a personal trainer, sometimes they say you're a tickle monster, and sometimes they tell the truth and say you're a dentist.

ladies and gentlemen, please welcome one of my favorite contestants to be on the show, Dr. Chris Stranberg, aka Cupcake, AKA My Ex-Boyfriend. Yes, we meet again. So we meet again. We're drinking wine together. Cheers to, you know, we're friendly exes. We are very friendly. Very friendly.

I mean, you worked on my teeth today, and that's like, I felt like that was the most vulnerable I've ever been with you. I definitely could have messed up your friends. face so thanks for trusting me thank you for not messing up my face uh after i left you on a cliff crying that passed through my mind a few times and i had to hold back but i'm from doing something nasty to my teeth i'm gonna ruin this bitch's face after what she did to me nothing but love for you do you hate the name cupcake sometimes but i have to remember that i own it you do and honestly it's very endearing and it could be so much worse you can't you can't drive in on a cupcake and expect

to be called Chris for the rest of your life like that you just can't do it I'm going all in on this one you really committed to the to the entrance because it was my favorite one like you I've talked about it so many times it's definitely my favorite entrance of all entrances ever not even just on my season because I can recall like I remember exactly how I was feeling in that moment waiting for like a funny one because it was a couple normal how many limos before you was there two or something um I was toward the end of the middle so it was quite a few before me uh oh well I'm trying to think the crazy oh the hot tub limo entrance yeah the carpool yeah our pool right but okay so i need to know i'm pretty sure we've probably talked about this but

we need the people to know what made you do the cupcake like were you like because it doesn't really make sense because you're a dentist and you're like stay away from sweets but here i am in a giant cupcake you know i was like man the competition's going to be so tough i need to make sure that i'm memorable you know and there's two at the time there's two girls attention that I needed to catch. Who were you really trying to? So I was always, I was always looking for you. I was, you know, going to keep an open mind and meet Britt, too, and she was really nice.

Yeah. But that wasn't the reason I was there. So part of why I felt safe doing that, I mean, obviously your entrance on The Bachelor was definitely memorable. Yeah. So this was my version of that. I'm like, if anybody's going to get this, it's going to be Caitlin. So that's good, good point. I figured like you wanted somebody.

You wanted somebody with a sense of humor, you know, so. Which I did. I just can I'll just never forget the feeling of standing there and hearing like a little motor and I was like what that doesn't sound like a limo what and then I like peeked down and I see this cupcake just slowly gliding and your like beautiful face just sticking out of the top with like your perfect smile and you did not like you didn't laugh and you didn't you just had this like genuine smile how can you not on your face just like and I mean you were floating you were just floating in. and I was just dying laughing and you didn't like you cried to smile but you weren't laughing like you were serious just happy to be there in your cupcake and I forget what did you say like you said right out of the cupcake like I'm a dentist what did you say again it's yeah something like I'm a dentist I wanted to do something really sweet for you guys oh yeah I was like yeah usually I'm against sweets but yeah I want I don't want you to think that I'm boring or something

I don't know, something like that. But when I got out of the cupcake, I just kind of looked around for a second and looked at you guys. I looked around. I was like, I nailed this. You did. I killed it. Actually, that's so true. If you look back and like see your reaction to us and your mannerisms out of the, like, you felt really good about that decision.

So what? So did the producers, were they like, look, we've got this giant cupcake. You want it or what? Yeah. Or did you have them go out and make it? I, uh, no, it was already made. Okay, but it's pre-made cupcake. It was handmade by a husband and wife that live in Venice, California.

Okay. So I actually met, I met the wife and she, like, she brought it there and she's, like, on the phone with her husband. Okay, this won't turn on, like, what's going on? And, like, they were, like, rigging it up. And this thing was, like, very dangerous looking. And was it for you the whole time? Like, how did this, how did you get the pleasure of getting the cupcake to ride in on? I had somebody make some phone calls.

Okay. And, yeah, it wasn't that far from where we filmed. But they actually use them at Burning Man Festival. Oh. So they have a fleet of them. What? Like, could I get my hands on one? Yeah, I think so.

Up here in Nashville? Up here. I don't know where I am. Up here in the south. Down here or wherever. I think you could. Really? Yeah.

Because how funny would that be if we, like, you know me in my stance? I love a good Snapchat. How good would that be if we rented a couple of the cupcakes? I mean, I can't believe it hasn't happened yet. I feel like we have to do that. I'm kind of upset at us in this moment thinking like, why haven't we done that? Yeah, it should be parked in the Bachelor garage, like just for anybody to use. Along with all of my clothes that I didn't get to keep. Oh, I know, right? I'm not mad. We have to buy our own clothes for the show, by the way. I know. Is that one of the questions you always get? If I had a nickel, hey, that's one of the ones if you had a nickel for every time they asked if you had to buy your own clothes.

Yeah, me too, but I, well, I had to for Christmas season. My mom, like, went into debt shopping for me because I didn't have the dollars to get that many outfits. But yeah, you guys, it's a little easier for guys. Actually, maybe not. Suites are a little more expensive. I spent about $2,500 on close. Yeah, okay, that makes sense. Yeah, I guess so.

I'm trying to think of how much I spend, but I don't even. even though I just, God bless my mom for shopping with me. She's a gem. But on The Bachelorette, I mean, all the clothes were tailored to my body so that it fit me like a glove. And then at the end, it just goes and sits in a warehouse and we don't get to keep it. I can't believe that. Which is just devastating. It's terrible.

I don't understand. I think something happened over the years. Like, I think Emily Maynard got to keep her outfits. And then from that Bachelorette on, something happened, which I don't know what. or why, but like, gosh. Our Broadway outfits, those were custom. Yeah, didn't get to keep it. You didn't get to keep your Aladdin vest?

I would definitely wear that again. You would have been wearing it right now in this podcast if you had it. Definitely. Even though the people can't see you, you still would have wore it. Oh, my gosh. I want to talk about so many things, including our dates. I guess we can go out of order because the Aladdin date was kind of in the middle. Yeah, so that was New York.

York's that was like week four yeah that was week four it was cold there's like paparazzi which was like I think a first for all of us definitely that was crazy it was so weird I know and it came producers were like chasing them away and like guarding us guarding us I was like we're like who's famous here yeah I'm like I don't get it why do you want a picture of me with five dudes walking down the street especially these dudes especially these dudes just kidding but you absolutely nailed the Aladdin audition like I knew you were going to win because there's how many guys were on that date um I think there's like five of us as me you Ben Higgins Joe Bailey Ian Ian he uh Ian who else is on that there's one other person Joshua Joshua yeah Joshua I love

um and I mean I was actually really impressed because you guys all brought it it's a musical and we're on Broadway and it's like that's really intimidating no matter how goofy you are to go out and perform and sing and remember lyrics and I remember Ian was very passionate about his voice but he kept screwing it up and you were just like here I am this is me and I can nail it and you did I've been practicing in the shower my whole life for that moment literally you were channeling your inner Aladdin and I just was like wow he gets it that was another that was favorite line was when you said, I am Aladdin. You like took a moment. You're like, yes, what were you saying? I'm Aladdin. I was like, they're like, you know, are you glad like you got to do this? I was like, yeah, I love Aladdin.

And then I got very serious. And I said, I am Aladdin. Something came over you in that moment where you were like, you were like, yeah, I love Aladdin. And then your eyes like got serious and you focused in on one of the producers. And you're like, wait, I am. I'm Aladdin. You are so serious. But you really were. Like, I've never seen anyone be Aladdin like that. I just discovered when I, you know, started doing The Bachelorette that I have the side of me that really wants to just go all in.

So that was another moment like the cupcake car where I probably went way overboard. But once I set my mind to it, I was like, no, I'm Aladdin. Like this is character. I'm getting in character. I'm going to sing. I'm going to dance. Yeah. You really committed to. To Cupcake and to Aladdin. Yeah. And I knew I caught your attention. Yeah, you did. You did. We got, you know, my whole life I've dreamt about being on Broadway in New York and you experienced that moment with me. It's really, really magical.

You and I were waiting in the wings. We were. I remember being so, like, I really, I honestly have always wanted that in my life. If you would ask me, like, when I was little, what I wanted, I would be like, I want to be on Broadway. I felt pretty special I got to share that moment with you. You did. Yeah. You were like, I can show you the world. And the producer or the director was like, he's not making fun of it.

He just doesn't know what he's doing. Because some people are like, are you making fun of a lot of him? Is he joking or I hope he's joking? I think you knew what you're doing. I did. I'm pretty sure you knew what you're doing. The guy who was coaching us was like, you really got to sell it. You got to sell the dance moves and you sell it by doing the hands.

He's like, I want to see the hand waving gestures. So I pulled out the jazz hands. yeah you did and wait was that before um before we did no it was after after we did um our date we went to the knickerbocker hotel and sat in the lounge remember because we were just waiting to like go do some more camera stuff um with the ball drop yeah and so we're sitting in the lounge and we're looking around and there's all these people and i'm like don't they think this is weird that there's cameras in here and then so one of the producers are like oh these these people They're all actors.

They're all planted here. Yeah, they're planted. And they're like, hi. I was like, oh, okay, this makes sense. So we're sitting on a couch and you're holding my hand and I wanted to let you know that I bit my nails because girls usually have these long pretty nails and especially on the show, they'll get them done. And I was just like, yeah, I didn't get my nails done.

So I wanted to let you know, like, I bite my nails. And so you're holding my hand and you're looking at it. And I said, I bite my nails. and you grabbed my hand and you started biting my nails. Another thing you really committed to. And I was like, what? That's one of my moves. Yeah.

I was like, what is he doing? And you're like, do you want me to bite your nails? And I was like, no, I said, I bite my nails. And you thought I said, will you bite my nails? And you didn't even hesitate. You didn't even question it. You grabbed my hand. You didn't laugh.

You didn't hesitate. You didn't question. You just started biting my nails. And I was like, what? And you're like, did you want me to bite your nails? I'm like, no, I said I bite my nails. I will be a devoted husband. Look at this.

I'll bite your nails on command. Are you single? Are you single? Wait, is that a serious question? Yeah, I'm single. I don't get it. Ladies. See, come on.

He'll bite your nails. Scoop them up. Lock it in. He's a nail biter for you. Don't worry, babe. I got this. You don't have to bite your own nails anymore. That's something that I look for in a guy.

Will he bite my nails? Yeah, that just added. There was so many moments. I know, which I feel like, you know, with you on the show, I really feel like you got a little bit jipped. Do you feel the same? I do, actually. Yeah.

Like, I feel like we had a pretty good bond. And I feel like watching back, I'm like, hey, where's Chris? Like, what happened to all of my moments with Chris? Because, I mean, I had a lot of moments with other people that I didn't think were a big deal that they showed. But where I felt like I had moments with you, they didn't show. show. They showed a lot of my performances, but they never showed us really talking and getting to know each other. It wasn't all just me looking like an idiot. No, it wasn't. We had a lot of good combos, but I have to let you in on a little secret to buying your next car. There's

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first you're making the guy's box and now you're making them sumo wrestle and tony was not having it was not impressed and he was like you know i'd rather just dance in a field of daisies and whatever his idea of love was i'm like okay these dates are obviously set up like there's people there's hundreds and thousands of people behind the scenes of the show coming up with the dates. I didn't pick, I don't want you guys to sumo wrestle and hurt each other. Why is it, why was it the worst date for you? I'm sorry?

The first, uh, time I got in the ring, it was up against the big world champion wrestler. Biaamba? Yeah, I think that was his name. Something like that. Beamba. I have it stored in my phone on. I have to look. Yeah, yeah.

So, uh, I go up against this guy and I think I'm making headway, I'm pushing him and stuff. and you're supposed to push the guy out of the ring that's how you win so he's just laughing at me right yeah because he weighs literally 600 pounds and he picks me up five feet in the air and slams me on my side and i like twisted my ankle and all this stuff so that was like the first round after that i faced uh clint who was this guy who was a wrestler in college right he was a wrestler in college and he completely like threw me out of the ring yeah and uh so those diaper things that we had to wear what were they called uh diapers they have a name so oh yeah they do the yeah wait i'm googling it but go on with your story so beaumba tied me up tied up all

the guys with that thing in the morning and we had to complete like we were naked under there right so they tied us up super tight at like 9 a.m and we were in those things for a solid 10 hours because that was probably late you were definitely late and we were definitely late and we were We had to ride our bikes in those things. Oh, yeah. So we're like bike riding and stuff. I mean, I've never felt more constricted or never thought I could be more constricted. So all this is happening being thrown on the ground while I'm choking.

And trying to impress me. And trying to impress you, right? Yeah. So then, hang on, this is the low point of that day. Oh, I thought we were there. I go up against Sean B. Oh, boy. in the ring, right?

Is he a wrestler? Yeah, you know, he's got a couple inches on me. He's got maybe 15 pounds on me. And he got me out of the ring. So it was like me and Sean head to head. And then he beat me. And I just looked over and I'm like, that's it. Sean goes over and he like picks you up and put you on his shoulders or something.

And at that moment, I knew it was going to be you and Sean at the end. And he would piggyback me into the sunset. Yes, exactly. That's what he, yeah, he gave me a piggyback. He goes, get on my back. And I was like, okay. Okay. But if you do recall, which they probably didn't show this either, I went up and interrupted

one of your interviews while you were, you know how they call it ITMs, like in the moment? You were doing an ITM and I walked up and like from behind and surprised you just to make sure you were okay. I do remember that actually. And that was my idea. That was really nice of you. Yeah. You didn't remember that until right now.

I actually definitely did not remember that. You might be making it up, actually. No, I don't get service in here. I can't figure out what the wrestling diapers are called. But no, I really genuinely was like, wait, did he get hurt there? Because I just, like, jumped on Sean's back and was a huge asshole. I was talking to the blonde producer. Is there?

I feel like. I thought you're talking to Todd. Her name was like Heather. Oh, maybe it was Todd. I think I might remember. It's coming back to me now. It's all coming back. It's all coming back to you.

People are saying that you got hurt or something like that. You're like, yeah, my pride. Yeah. I probably got hurt, Caitlin. No, I mean, it was, I mean, I was into it. I was never, I was never mad that we were doing it, but. It was a very interesting. It was painful.

Date, to say the least. Because it was like the first, or was it second? I can't remember. Who knows? It was one of my group dates where it was still new, where I felt like I'm hurting people's feelings all the time. Actually, that was the whole season. I constantly felt like I was hurting people's feeling this the whole time.

That's why I drank my way through the whole thing, which I'm doing right now. that happens every year though right you can't not disappoint people yeah you're either disappointing like the fans of the show the guys the producers or your mom and dad you're just constantly disappointing somebody in your life you were very diplomatic with everybody was I felt like you gave people time well because I cared I genuinely cared what else can you do that's pretty much it yeah well thanks for making me feel better. Then again, with the

mariachi, I'm trying to remember all of our dates here. The mariachi band? I had a great a song? Yeah. Jingle? Yeah, I had a great song.

I rewrote that one mariachi song. Did it go something like, ay, yeah, yeah. That's how it started. I am a cupcake. Something like that.

Except it was in Spanish. I remembered a few Spanish words. I was like, Caitlin's going to be so impressed. You got a despicito on me? Yeah. I was like, she's going to think I'm the bebes. I do remember you singing in a different language and I was like, oh, dang, cupcake.

There's a couple times I said, oh, dang, cupcake. I called you, you had wheels. I always said you had wheels. You know what that means? Like, you were like smooth. Is that like a Canadian thing? It is, for sure. I feel like I got it out of what, like, I feel like a couple of my hockey player

friends would say it, like, oh, the guy's got wheels if he's like quick and got good moves. so if you sucked or you like didn't know how to wheel a chick I would say your your wheels were square so you're like I got it like not smooth so I had wheels after you had wheeled yeah because you swooped in John and I talked about that on our first podcast that you got the first kiss he got the second and I was like I didn't see it coming I'm like dentist got some wheels that's right that's and everyone was like what does she mean and I'm like my Canadian folks will know what I'm saying there but yeah he swooped good for you You're blushing.

You missed out. Did I, though? Didn't miss out that night. Maybe not. Tell you that for free. They didn't show that. No charge. What were the mariachi?

Yeah, that was fun, though. That whole day it was fun, except for... That was a fun date up until you gave Joshua the worst hair cut of his life. Well, you know what? That wasn't my fault because I did take cosmetology in school for three years and I know how to cut hair. And they gave me some bad clippers. And I think still to the state, people think I meant to give him. a bad haircut. I always wonder, too. I'm like, this is two years later. Do people even remember

these episodes, or is it just because we were there? Definitely not. Yeah, because I think back, we were talking about this earlier. Like, I think back to Sean Lowe's season of The Bachelor, which was one of my favorite seasons. And I'm like, there's somebody other than Catherine there? I don't know. I don't remember. I think you tune out throughout all of the early group dates. Yeah. Like you never remember the early group dates. It's kind of like these silly things. You don't really know the characters yet. And you're just like, oh, this is whatever. Are you watching Rachel's season? Yeah.

Who is memorable to you on this season? Brian's memorable. Yeah. You like Brian? I do. How come? I think, I don't know, maybe people say that he's full of BS, but I'm buying it. You're buying what he's selling?

Yeah, I'm buying it. Really? He might be a little cheesy. He could sell you a ketchup flavored popsicle if you were wearing white gloves. Yes. Really? I don't know. When you're there, I feel like it's hard not to be self-conscious and things.

thinking about what you're saying and coming off a little awkwardly. So that could be what's going on. If he's really manipulating her that much, then you might be evil. I don't know. I don't think that that's what's going on there. I think he's genuine. Really? Okay, good.

I mean, I don't know. And she's so into him that I would like it to work out. Yeah, I agree. I keep saying that I don't buy what he's selling. He could not sell me ketchup flavor. I can't go there again. But for some reason, I'm like, I don't know. I don't you would have sent him home night one but I also would have freaking hated if I listen to a patch a past bachelor at say that about Sean like if they're like I don't buy him I don't know I don't like they're I'd be so pissed I'd be like you don't even know him so I hate saying that I know Brian and I you know I don't want to say I don't buy it but I just I just I just have this gut feeling where I'm like he seems like a little Miami like flirt and don't give me that look you're looking at me like I'm wrong I think

he's a little square for that do you really think he's like a player like out at live till 5 a.m. like maybe you're right yeah maybe well you know what it threw me off because he's not a DJ he's a chiropractor wait that is a really good point but is he I was oh maybe he's not really instructor that's true maybe he's not a chiropractor who knows he just has a van and he invites people in he's a no charge chiropractor yeah exactly select clients only yeah hmm that's a good point i don't actually think that brian brian if you're listening he probably tuned out a while ago if he heard me talking

but no i okay you're right he's a chiropractor he's not a dj in miami he might just be a nerd but his mom said that i don't know if it sounds like a russian accent she was like you get so many girls is that i'm not russian yeah it's it's like a northern dialect but yeah well she said that he meets and knows so many girls Why is he falling in love with the one who's on TV? And I was like, oh, mom with the truth bombs. And you know, like, people who have the language barrier just say it how it is. So I'm like, I don't like that.

They don't have that fake American niceness. But again, I will give Brian the benefit of the doubt and say that I hope I'm wrong. I hope he is genuine. And I hope they live happily ever after because there's nothing better than to come out of that show with something. Because if I came out with nothing, I'd be pissed. Pissed. She's not going to go home empty-handed. They've got to keep you guessing.

I still... Here's what I think. I don't read spoilers. I know I have like an inn, obviously. I was on the show, but I don't know how the show ends. I think she will pick Brian. I think Peter will be the Bachelor. I think Dean will go on Paradise.

Like five times. Like maybe six. Yeah, definitely. And Eric will possibly go on Paradise. Paradise. But that's what I think, because I think Peter is not ready to be engaged to Rachel. I think he has very strong feelings, but I don't think, well, I'm acting like people aren't watching. That's exactly what he says. He's not ready to be in love with her. So I think that's a good transition for him to be The Bachelor, because if he was all in and wanted to be engaged and he was so heartbroken, it would be too soon for him to jump into the role of The Bachelor. He's definitely the bachelor He's got the perfect story He's having trouble opening up

That's what I think Do you want some more wine? I'm good What? Okay fine She pushes the wine You don't have to Do you want more?

I'll give you a little sip Here you go It doesn't take much To unlock the vault here So You told me earlier That it doesn't take a lot To unlock you

So I am forcing alcohol Down your throat Drink up what do you want to know two more steps what do you want to know I don't know what do I let me go down my list of things I want to know I have a whole section of when I've unlocked the vault things to ask okay we're going to take a quick break but I have a quick question

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Now back to Off the Line with Caitlin Bristow. Wait, let me say about Dean. First of all, the thing about Paradise that I said, I don't think that he's trying to be like a show pony. Yeah. But I just think that he's really young. Yeah. And he probably is going to meet a nice girl.

I don't see him getting settled down. And I think that America is going to just love him so much that people, they'll want him to stay around. So I'm not trying to be. around yeah he'll be around and uh and all i'm trying to say about his dad is you know he was very insecure talking about his family yes rachel because he probably feels like there's been such a drastic change from when he was young and that's when you really you feel like you make an image of who your parents are and then to have such a big change yeah i mean that'd be super

hard it would be really really hard and i do feel like he's such a sweet guy and i think he's just a little confused as to what happened and that's so hard to play out on national television. Like, I mean, you really go through so much change on that show because producers become like therapists. So you're constantly going into a room with one other person who's really good at their job and talking about feelings and getting you through things that you're, it's like seven days a week for hours through the day.

You're just constantly going into a room and talking about how are you feeling? How does this make you feel? why does it make you feel this way what did you used to feel like and how have you overcome that and it's every day for however many weeks that you're there it's like a therapy like you know that's free therapy yeah it's a constant therapy session and so you question yourself because you're always having to evaluate well how do i really feel and you're talking about it constantly and yeah you probably do get a lot of growth like especially somebody like him you do and he's probably really afraid to not say anything bad because you're like

America's watching and Canada and here's the thing when you go on the show you're just a normal person you it's just like anybody else and really you have no idea what type of attention like how things are going to change for you just by going on the show and when you're there filming nothing's changed yet nothing that's the crazy thing you're just still yeah the same old cameras around yeah you know that there's these cameras around you're like I have no idea how people are going to take this yeah so you're very vulnerable very the most you you'll ever be and I think people even still now I try to have an open mind watching because I'm like why are all these dudes sit around talking about their feelings and I'm like oh wait I was

there I know why you have to and there's nothing else to do no and it's great it is it's fine that's why you become such close friends with people yeah is because you actually open up and yeah same thing with Eric I don't know at one at one point he's being sent home or if he already has but or if he wins i don't know but i saw growth in him as a human being just through the show like at the beginning i'm like man pump the brakes eric like take a back seat this is the beginning why are you so angry and yelling at everybody where now i'm like what a sweetheart you know and like seeing him with his family was really special and i feel like he really grew as a person which i love to see on those shows and i think that'll happen for all of them and maybe that's why

Peter will get there for when he's the bachelor. Exactly. Yeah, he, uh, what? Eric. Yeah, so Eric. People could still hear you. Eric. No, hang on.

I'm a big Eric fan because he freaked out in the house early on. I think he'd never been in that situation before. So he was just on overload. And then as it's gone on, he's been a genuine guy. Like, you don't question him at all, right? No, which is so crazy because at the beginning I was like, uh-uh. But now it's so normal. Yeah.

What is his name? I like him. Eric. I think it's Eric. I'm just kidding. He lives in L.A. I want to hang out with him. Does he really? Yeah. No, he doesn't. I think he does. Oh, he's from Baltimore, but he lives in L.A. He does live in L.A. I saw him on like a Instagram store. You're a big L.A. guy. Huge L.A. guy now. Moved away from Nashville. Only took two months. You live in L.A. two months and you're a big L.A. guy. We'll get to that. Yeah, I don't know. I'll say that if she does pick Peter, I am very curious. they'll make the bachelor.

Who would? Ben H. Can I ask? Yeah. Other than Ben H. And Peter. Who would be the bachelor? Who would you pick?

I don't even know. Right. Because I can't think of anybody. I really don't see any of the other guys as being the Bachelor. We don't know them well enough or they aren't ready. In the early days, they would pick an unknown for the Bachelor. That's why I'm so set that she is probably going to pick Brian because I think Peter must be the Bachelor. Right.

Because they don't have any other options. And it's too soon to bring Ben H back. Too soon for Ben. Yeah. Too late for Brad Womack. That is so true. For round three. Yeah.

And then... They would never do an unknown, right? Unless they are going to end the world of the Bachelor and finally make Chris Harrison the Bachelor and have me as the host. Oh, that would be absolutely awesome. I don't know. I honestly think... They could do that at some, not have me as a host, but have Chris Harrison be the final

bachelor. Yeah, right. No, that'll never happen. I like to think about what if, though. Would he still conduct the rose ceremonies? He would have to. Okay. His own rose ceremonies.

Chris, final rose tonight. Hey, you. Now I'm ready. Yeah. He'd have the perfect gestures. He would nail the hand gestures. And then we have to obviously talk about, you are slamming the wine. Good for you.

I just poured you that. You're done. I guess I'm doing all the talking. Let's talk about your, you had an, I don't like the E word. You had a legendary entrance and even more legendary exit? I think the entrance, luckily, was still more memorable. People, people, I don't know if they're awkward about it. Well, that might be it. Let's explain your exit. Let's explain the exit. Because you, do you hate this? No. Oh, okay, good, because I do think it's like...

I want to talk about this. Okay, let's talk about it. Yeah. So I broke up with you. I'd say that laughing because I don't feel like it was... Let's just start it off like that. Because I don't feel like it was like a... I don't sound like...

I'm not actually laughing to the fact that I broke up with you. But we... You came to the, um, hotel that I was at in Ireland, that castle. And I'm like, oh, a ride has arrived. And this helicopter came down. Did you know in that moment that I was being off? Definitely, because I told one of the producers, I was like, something's weird about her today. Yeah.

Okay. Yeah, you were like, you had like this forced smile and you were kind of like closed off. I was like, this is fine. She's just nervous about the helicopter. Which I was. So we had this beautiful helicopter flight. That was actually one of was stunning. And I thoroughly enjoyed it.

My mind was not really elsewhere. Even if I said it was, that was because I was just saying something. But I was really into that because it was, that was one of the coolest things I've ever been a part of, was flying over, like, the countryside of Ireland. So it was early April's unseasonably warm. It had rained in the morning. Oh, you are painting a picture. And we take flight over the green countryside, over the ocean, and there's the cliffs of more below us. I feel like I'm the producer and you're talking to me and I'm like, yes.

In that moment, I was the happiest thing. I'd ever been. Little did I know. No, I'm just kidding. No, but it was so cool. I mean, I'd only been on the helicopter once before then. And I mean, this was just, it was really breathtaking views. It was.

It was. I always say on TV like it doesn't, it doesn't do it justice because it is so stunning. And then we go to these cliffs. And we had so much fun. And there was a couple of bloopers even from that. And I almost fell down through a cliff. Remember? You don't remember any.

Did I save you? Yeah. he did. Oh, yeah, that's right. Oh, oh yeah, now I remember. I should have just pushed you at that point and then I would have won. I'm the winner. Somebody said on Bachelor in Paradise, Nick said, they're like, oh, how'd you feel? And Caitlin sent you home? He's like, I wanted to push her in the pool, which I was like, that's funny. He should have. Talk about good TV. But yeah, you probably, I mean, if you would have known what was coming, maybe you would have let me go down the cliff. But, okay, so what my favorite part

the story is not that I it was terrible it was heart wrenching we both like were upset about it but it was what happened after so I tell you like this isn't going to work out and tears and we're both upset and you're like I don't think she knows what she wants and I was like do I know what I want I don't know and then they made me get in the helicopter and just do circles around you just mocking me and I was like do we really have to turn around one more time I think he gets it I think he gets the memo and they were just like making you think you were stuck on that cliff forever I didn't know what was I don't know how this stuff ends yes so what happened when I took off in this bossy breakup in a helicopter yet I'm crying I'm looking down on you

what what was going on you take off I'm like wait is she leaving you're like she's coming back right she's wait she's flying away I still get to go back and see the guys right So there's another helicopter out there because they have to film your helicopter. So two helicopters. So there's two helicopters now. They have an extra helicopter and I can't use either helicopter. Not only is one flying around you with me in it. There's another just to show you that what you could be in.

Circling me, film me my reaction. I was a little, you know, obviously I was a little bit shocked. But as you were circling around me, I mean, I was fine at that time. It was a little bit cold. I was hungry. That's where the tears came in. You were cold. But seriously, I cry every time I get cold.

But I was up there on the cliff and just kind of letting it soak in. Mm-hmm. What was I think? I mean... Are you still letting it soak in? I was... I journal about it every night and I'm close to a breakthrough. And you're going to read those journal pages for us right now.

Exactly. I was like, no. I was like, huh, I guess not. But they... But they really, like, kept you there until you broke, right? I was there for an hour watching her circle. I am such an asshole. And they wouldn't let me wear my coat.

Nope, because that would make you comfortable. Oh, for continuity. Because you didn't have a coat on before. So you couldn't be all of a sudden crying in a coat if you weren't wearing a coat when I left you. And so I'm freezing out there. But at the same time, I was like, man, this is a really pretty view. The sun was setting. It was clear.

It was very conflicted. Yeah, yeah. It was such a confusing moment for you because you saw the beauty and so many things yet you felt the pain of a serious, serious breakup. Yeah, the sun was setting on our love in that moment. It was such a metaphor. What a metaphor. I was just going to say that's such a metaphor. Ah.

But it all worked out. Yeah, I actually remember you saying before I left to get into the helicopter and I was crying because I was just like, I hate doing this stuff and you whispered to me you said if it is who I think it is which was Sean you said you're going to be okay and I was like oh that's really special because I knew you didn't mean anyone else

I knew you meant Sean but see that's the thing though ever since the sumo wrestling date yeah that's when I really decided it's probably Sean just I just saw the chemistry between you guys and you and I never had that and at that time I was like, well, I think she likes Sean, like it's going to work out. And I was happy for you. I really was. I believe you. So I got over that part of it. Yeah. That was kind of same thing. Like when Chris sent me home like two days later, I was like, was like, was I even really heartbroken or was I just humiliated that I was in a sarong in Bali and like had to wear my hair in a tight bun and got sent home when I was super cocky. Yeah. I had to really think about that for a second. And then I was so happy because I love. Whitney and she ended up winning. She's still winning, but...

She is still winning. She is still winning. God, I love her. Okay, so now that we've talked about the exit, you said you had something to remind me and ask me about hometowns. There was really no context for the tears. Now, like I said, I told Caitlin, I gave basically my blessing to Sean at that time because I just saw that they were going to be a great match. But I was a little bit stunned because I thought we had a strong connection and you didn't really get to see that it wasn't developed on the show. In San Antonio, you and I were having a conversation before the rose ceremony, and I said,

I'm really excited to introduce you to my family. Yeah. And I thought you're like, yeah, I'm really excited to meet them and that that was you telling me that I was a lot for hometown dates. Damn. Yeah.

See, that's so hard because I had been in the same situation as you where with Chris, I took that same, like what he said to me what did he say um he said i can't wait for you to meet my sisters you would get along so well with them and i was like oh boom done final two because that was like when it was three of us i'm like done so i remember taking that and you take words for all that they are and you hold on to them in that world because you have nothing else you don't have tv you don't have internet you don't have friends you don't have family you have producers you have me and like the guys who are all doing the same thing.

And so any sort of little sign you could possibly take, you hang on to and you're like, she said she can't wait to meet my family. I am going to introduce her. She wouldn't say that otherwise. I'm really sorry. No, it's totally fine. I mean,

I got to meet your family and they're lovely. Right? Yeah. When people question how genuine the show is, that's what they don't have the context for. is you really do get wrapped up into it because of the, I mean, you do look for all of those little signals that you're hopefully getting from, you know, the bachelorette. Yeah.

And oh, she said that and she winked at me or whatever. Like she gave me an extra long stare. Yes. And that's all you have. So in your own mind, you don't want to think about the other connections that may or may not be going on. You want to stay positive through it. And so you develop like these feelings, I think.

Yeah. And so I think it happens pretty frequently. and I would say that to people who really question the show, it's a lot more genuine than you might think. Yeah, I hate when people say like, is it scripted? No, it's edited. Is it genuine?

Yes, it is. And are the feelings real? Yeah, they are. I always say that too. I hate when people question that. And I was one of those people that used to watch the show and be like, this is a joke. And then you are actually in it and you realize that it's no joke at all.

It's very serious and real. and that's even now watching Rachel's season, I'm like, this is a joke. And then I have to take a step back and be like, Kailen, you know this isn't a joke. This is real. I'm like, why is that dude crying? Because you've just entered a world

that just changes you and brings out more emotions than you ever knew you had. And that's why. And nobody will ever understand until they're in the situation. And these people have put themselves in very vulnerable positions

and they've opened up in ways they maybe never have. Yeah. And that doesn't always you know connect by watching the show right but without because we all like to laugh at the show we do no matter what we still do and you know obviously i am a perfect example of like making people laugh you know i knew that that was going to be a part of it yeah and so i embraced that um as much as people get invested in the show when they watch it emotionally invested the experience itself there's

no way to even describe how like all encompassing life changing it is. It really is. It's a crazy experience. Even if you're there for I wouldn't say like two weeks but if you're there three weeks past there's just something about the show that really

cuts to your core and gets to you and tugs on the heartstrings and like it just there's something about it and like I said I think it's because every hour is a therapy session and you are just getting to know your yourself more than anything and I think that's why people get so emotional and break down because you've just been through so much and learn so much about yourself and it's really eye-opening and then all of a sudden you're just like chewed up and spat out into the real world and they're like bye

and like what huh what and then you go home and you're like can I talk about my feelings to somebody like I remember doing that to my family when I get I was I went pretty far with Chris I got home I'm like it was 9 a.m and I go mom can pour me a glass of wine and she goes up but first of all pour it yourself second of all it's 9 a.m what are you doing what life are you living and then I'm like do you guys want to talk about your feelings at like the dinner table and they're like especially coming from me who my whole life I've been like eh I don't care I don't care about feelings I'll just sweep it under the rug all of a sudden I want to talk about my feelings and nothing else they're like we like this but you're scaring us this is weird compare your demeanor from your limo entrance oh I didn't give to shit to the end of the bachelor's I gave like 80 shits. And how you're crying every moment practically. And this is Caitlin, right? The tough guy.

Caitlin, the tough guy. Yep. Big tough guy. Not anymore. Big softy guy now. Big softy guy now. I am. I'm a huge softy now.

Cry all the time. It's really annoying. But for good reasons, right? Nope. Oh. That's another podcast, guys. I'm not invited to that one. Nope.

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Okay, I'm going to play a little word association game with you before we wrap this up. Uh-oh. They did this to me on Ellen Tube, and I said some very inappropriate things. So no, it's your turn. Here we go. So I'm going to say names of either past bachelor, bacheloretts, or contestants, and you have to say the first word that comes to mine. No holding back.

And at the end of the show, if you want to tell me to take a couple out of there, I will. Okay. Thank God. But I really won't. Okay. Andy Dorman. You're hesitating.

You can't hesitate. Andy Dorman, go. Not a fan. What? Really? Oh, I love her. Really? Sean calls her Diva Dorfman, but I think it's so funny.

Oh. Okay. It's okay. she listens anyways she's like i adore her but i know her very well okay um juan pablo how what how did he get i don't know i was trying to throw you off um you're thinking way too hard you can just say spanish or soccer or something like you just be like accent i don't know yeah he's probably jerk face okay jerk face that's two words and i'll take it it's hyphenated that's one word then No, whatever.

Luke Pell. You suck at this game. I said no thinking about it. Big time. Oh, big leagues? Big leagues. Okay, I guess this is called the two-word association game. Not one.

Okay. Chris Souls. I wish there's cameras. That's what I wish. This game would be a whole lot better if there's cameras. You wouldn't have to say anything. Okay, next. Chris Harrison

One take wonder Three words now God, you are the worst The master Master He got himself He really is He really is

He's something else Okay, Caitlin Bristow You I'm gonna have to fill up your wine glass Again if you're gonna be this slow This should not be that hard Sweetheart You

you're lying but okay I'll give the word associating game to myself Cupcake Liar Okay Woboom con man

I just choked con man That's it Okay Okay Um Lee from this season Nashville guy

This is why we need cameras Excommunicated. I don't like big words. Okay. Beckettilly. One word? I'm just, I'm a chatty guy.

Give me a sentence. Surprisingly cool. Yeah, okay. Surprisingly cool. Ashley I. Sister. She's going to hate that. Oh, man.

Okay, and that's how you play with the Word Associates game. Actually, that's not how you play it at all. You're terrible at that game. That's because you're such a gentleman. I hate it. Okay, fine. So now you move to L.A. You're really honing in on the whole dentist thing,

and you're really good at it because you just did my teeth. Thank you. You just went and did my teeth. Just did your teeth. And they look good, if I do say so, myself. You know, I had the fangs going on. What did you do that? capped some stuff what is that called yeah we call it bonding bonding we just added a little bit

to the corners and took away the fang look which i was down with for a long time but i'm like vampires are out so fix me up doctor you're a lot less scary looking now thank you i agree i think i have pretty smile now thanks to you no you did a really good job thanks and so what office are you at thank you um i am in century city it's called century city aesthetic dentistry okay and can people just come in and make an appointment? Yeah, you can give me a call. I have my, obviously, my Instagram, um, click the call button. What is your Instagram? It's at Chris Strandberg, S-T-R-A-N-D-B-U-R-G. Okay. Today, the assistant was like, oh, hi, Dr. Strandberg and Caitlin's like, who's that? Yeah, I was so confused. I'm like, you mean cupcake? Cupcake.

What do you mean, doctor? I guess you are. Yeah, good for you. Okay, so anyone can come. yeah just give us a call we'll get you on the schedule and i highly recommend you because i'm a picky mother effer and honestly i'm like i can't wait to go look in the mirror again you're sweet see she is a sweetheart i wasn't lying you know what i am if i care about you i am a sweetheart if i don't i'm a pretty big bitch i actually agree with both of those statements i've seen both sides of that but yeah that's the thing like i know katelyn uh you know she and i became friends after the show because she and Sean live in Nashville. Yeah. And

I just think she's great. I mean, we've just stayed friends. We have. And you and Sean are good friends and I feel like we're like the three best friends that anyone has ever had. We are. It's so weird how I don't even think about the show stuff. No, you can really separate the show. It seems like

it was a show now. Now. Yeah. Because we have like a real context, like real life. Exactly. To think back on it. Which is a beautiful thing if you ask me. It is. You're a gem. And I think that's why we can have such a nice little conversation in this small little podcast room because we really are genuine friends. Otherwise, this could have been really awkward. You know, I could have had some one of my other exes in here and I'd be like, so, so you like weather?

Which of your other? Oh, I know who you're talking about. Which one? Ben, Zorn. Well, I just never really got the chance to have a conversation with them. I remember I got, oh yeah, I remember I got mad at him. He knows this. We'd talk about weather all the time.

I'd be like, damn it, Benzie. Benzie is one of my best friends, so. And he always talked me about weather. I called him out all the time. I wish they would have shown him more of that. I'd be like, yo, let's stop talking about the weather. We're better than that. And he'd be like, damn it.

Just the nicest guy. We didn't talk about that. By the way, it rains so much today. Oh my gosh. Isn't it so cloudy out? The most cloudy. You know, when people are like, you brought the sunshine i'm like you brought the rain literally did and we're now we're talking about

weather so i'm gonna no actually you know i have a couple fan questions that we're gonna just zoom through because time flies when you're having fun oh thank you my guy john out there he he texts me and said the sumo diaper is called a mawashi yes mawashi you could chime in am i saying that right Mawashi Mawashi Yeah, that does ring a bell Thank you for that John What a beaut

Okay, so here's a couple Questions from Twitter The Twatter world What? Wines hit me There's a couple Okay A lot of twats out there

A lot of twats Coming in Coming in hot on the twats What? Oh no Oh no Can we pour the last little bit of wine Let's do it

So, Jill Johnson, at Jill Walderbatch, not in Bach, Batch. Does Chris still watch any of the Bachelor shows? Does he have any regrets about doing the show? I've seen the Paradise Seasons. I watched Ben's Bachelor, and I watched this season. But I took a little hiatus in between. I didn't see Jojo and I didn't see Nick.

I have no regrets at all. It was like the craziest, coolest thing I could ever imagine doing. Yeah, it really was. I remember having a conversation with you after the sumo wrestling date in that, I don't know where we were. It was some weird little area, but we went and sat on like a little rock. It was like a Chinese garden or something, right? Yeah.

We went and sat on like this little rock and had a blanket and we talked about how you like had the opportunity to go on the show before, but you took it for this one. Yes. And we felt like it was the right timing for you. Because I would have been on Andy's season. Right. And I would have been on Juan Pablo. season. Yeah, that's right. We did talk about that. And we would have never been friends. Actually, maybe

we would have dated. Wait a second. Maybe I would have got kicked off one follows. You would have got kicked off Andy's and we would have been on Bachelor and Paradise and we'd be engaged. And this would be a whole other podcast. Isn't that weird though how life works? That blows my mind. It worked out the right way. It, wait, what? I'm like insulted. No, I know. I agree. Okay. Sydney Bernardo Bernardo Bernardo says has he ever

gotten patients come in just because they were fans of the Bachelorette and how do you react? I have gotten... You're like money money money money money. I do that little song and dance

and they're like, this guy's weird. Yeah. Then they leave and then you lose the money. I want to refund. Nobody has been very weird. And usually it's like yeah usually I'll meet them and then right at the end they'll be like okay so and then they'll have like a question that's really surprising because I thought especially there's a lot of bachelor

fans in Nashville I thought for sure you would have like a list of people and they'd be like a man touch my teeth it's like they're fetish I had this one really sweet girl made she made me a clock that said like Dr. Cupcake on it and it was like a clock that I kept in my office and she sent that to the office wow you already answered this one earlier but savvy Savvy S.G. West Coast said Is he still single? He is and savvy

I heard a little rumor that he's ready to mingle. I'm out in L.A. ready to mingle right now. Good one, Caitlin. Is she a West Coaster? Is that what it says? Something West Coast?

It does say West Coast and she does have her top off in her profile picture so maybe a red flag. So actually I might be concerned about that one. But she's facing the other way so it's okay.

So it's cute. So she's mysterious. So mysterious. She really keeps the mind guessing. Leaves a lot to the imagination. What could be on the other side? She's got a very sexy back. Gab's Mags says, oh, nope, that wasn't a question.

That was just a tweet to me. That's it. Thanks. Caitlin, you're great. Oh, sweet. Oh, thanks. Oh, I should have read that out loud. I haven't even read this.

I'm just going, I'm reading it right now for the first time. Sarah Hale, if he's willing to say, my question. Oh, what's up with the rumors that he took Ashley I out for a date and then ghosted her? That's so false. Yeah. Ashley, I thought it was a date. You never implied it was a date. Then when you guys both paid for your own check, she realized, oh, it's a friend date. And she was disappointed and you're like, what's the deal? We're all in this world together. Why can't we be friends? Did I just answer it for you? That's totally right. I didn't make any moves she should have known okay um i think that's it it was great why is it when i need you to

answer like immediately do you hesitate you at did you have fun today i had a great time okay well thank you for being my guest we thought we talked about this um in mexico for carly and evans wedding that we wanted to get together and do a podcast that's right so we finally got around to it we had a day you fixed my teeth and you were my guests on my podcast. How crazy is it that we have stayed friends and we got to clear all this up now? You're really the only one I have remained this close with. I like all of the guys from my season, including like some of the like ones that you wouldn't think I would like. I like everyone from my season. You're the person I've remained the closest to. You're one of our good friends. And I really

appreciate having you on the show. And I think you added a lot of value to this podcast. Thanks, it might have been the pino grigio but you know what that's all i am to this podcast without the pino grigio this podcast would suck so on that note if you don't want to miss an episode of off the vine i suggest you go to podcast one dot com subscribe on apple podcasts or download the new podcast one app so if you don't want to miss an episode of off the wine i mean that would make more sense So if you don't want to miss an episode of Off the Vine, download the Podcast One app. There is no other podcast app like this. Download the all-new Podcast One app in the app store or on Google Play.

It's easy to comment and connect with other show fans. We have our own little community on here. Get 360 video or watch a bunch of shows in virtual reality. There's over a thousand videos on there right now. It's like you're in the studio. Chris, you are a true delight. Thank you for being. here. Thank you for making my teeth beautiful. I will Snapchat them later. And I will see you next

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