Off The Vine with Kaitlyn Bristowe - Elyse Myers | The Internet’s Favorite Storyteller on Autism, Marriage & Her Most Vulnerable Book Yet!

Episode Date: October 28, 2025

#888. What happens when the internet’s most relatable storyteller sits down with the internet’s most unfiltered podcaster? Pure podcast magic.This week, Kaitlyn finally meets viral creator Elyse Myers IRL for the first time—and it instantly feels like two friends who’ve known each other forever. Elyse opens up about going viral overnight (“I literally apologized to my husband”), how autism has shaped her storytelling and connection with others, the process of writing the most vulnerable book of her life, and the real dynamics of her marriage with Jonas. It’s raw, hilarious, and deeply human—an episode that will stay with you long after you hit play. Enjoy!If you’re LOVING this podcast, please follow and leave a rating and review below! PLUS, FOLLOW OUR PODCAST INSTAGRAM HERE!Thank you to our Sponsors! Check out these deals!Booking.com: Head over to booking.com and start your listing today! Get Seen. Get Booked on Booking.com!Quince: Go to Quince.com/vine for free shipping on yourorder and 365-day returns. Now available in Canada, too!Boll & Branch: For a limited time get 20% off Bed Bundles, plus free shipping and returns, at BollAndBranch.com/vine20.EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS: (12:04) – Autism & Oversharing: Elyse shares how being autistic shapes her storytelling and connection with fans.(28:03) – Writing Her Book: Behind-the-scenes of Elyse’s debut book and why it’s her most vulnerable project yet.(38:00) – Going Viral Overnight: Elyse reflects on her instant fame.(42:48) – Marriage & Vulnerability: The truth behind Elyse and Jonas’s relationship.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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you're on? Please, that one simple thing helps more than you even realize it allows me to keep growing on this podcast and making these episodes the best they can possibly be obviously for you. That's the only favorite I'm going to ever ask, okay? It truly means the world to me. Thank you. Now let's get into it. Hey, everybody. Welcome to Off the Vine. I'm your host, Caitlin Bristow. And today we have one of the most wildly relatable, funny, yet so profound people on today. Did that make sense? Was that a sentence? You've definitely seen her face, no matter what, on your for you page, on the internet. Probably mid-story about some disastrous first date or a very specific pen. But Elise Myers has over 12 million fans, a hit podcast and now a debut book. This podcast was

just magical and everything I ever wanted. It was our first time meeting and we felt like we've been in a long distance relationship for so long because we've been friends for the last, I don't know, I would say five years. So let's get into it with the queen of chaotic storytelling, Elise Myers. What did you do last night? That's a great question. I'd love to tell you. I like fan girl. So I've been here since Sunday, and I've been, like, doing book stuff and, like, meetings and filming stuff. And last night, we celebrated just the release of, like, a bunch of, like, Harper Columns William Maro books. And I stole. Oh, no. What did you do? They have this, like, big poster of the books, like, all around. And when I was leaving, I was like, I'm just going to take that. Yeah. So I just, like, put, and I'm joking, like, put it under my shirt,

but then they started, like, follow me with the camera. And I was like, this is becoming a whole thing. This is a bit now. Yeah, it's my nose. Yeah. I don't even know if it's going to fit in my luggage, but I'm taking it back with me. If I have to hold it on the place. Is it of your book?

It's my book cover, but it's like a huge cover. I can't believe this is my first time meeting a person. It really feels like we were in a long distance relationship. We were. Did you ever do that where you, like, met someone on the internet and then dated without meeting for a long time? Not for a long time, but for quite a good amount of time. That, like, reunion is so surreal.

You just want to, like, reach out. and touch their face. Because it's so scary, too, because you're like, what if I don't like you? I mean, all the, all the eggs in, no baskets. Yes. You're just holding all the, yeah, you're like, I hope this works. And then you dump them. Yeah, and then they fall into the one basket.

But that is so true. But that's how I feel, because we really have been in a long distance relationship. I feel like, well, so did you watch my season of Bachelorette? Of course. Okay. Yeah. So you've known me, not really, but like, but then I started, I'm trying to think of how I found you. I mean, the world found you, but.

So I started making, I made, if I was a contestant on The Bachelor video. Yes. And I just was telling someone on the way over here, I literally was, I had just booked, or I just rented this like townhouse to be a studio for me to like separately out of my house. And I had no furniture in this place. It was like completely empty. I remember this. Yeah.

And I, like, was eating my lunch one day. And I was like, I got to do something content wise while I have no furniture. I have to take advantage of this. And I just was catching up on The Bachelor. eating. And I was like, how funny would it be if I just took the most low-res screenshots of this show and like green screened myself in? Like so, yeah, the backpack. And like, I just like, I made it like a nervous tick of that version of me like to just pull my backpacks like straps up and just like when they would call my name, I'd be like shut the hell up. Like me. Like in a. I forgot. Yeah. It

oddly connected me into the bachelor world where I was just like. You got to go to like bachelor events. Yeah. I'm like, I'm a fan. You know that. Right. Like, I don't belong. I'm, like, a fan. I'm, I shouldn't be here. I love that, though. It was so, it was so, so cool. Well, it's fun when, when you are a fan of something and then that something becomes a fan of you. It's bizarre. Isn't it?

That's, like, been the weirdest part about this new job and life is, like, I'll go up to someone and just be like, I just, I don't want to bother you, but I'm a really big fan. And they're like, oh, my God. And I'm like, oh, my God. Like, I'm blowing his speakers out right now. No, I was too. It's just, yeah, it's a really special. And I just, the internet is so crazy because you just don't know, like, who's getting served your content. I always think about that. Like, because Justin Bieber has seen my DMs before.

And I know he knows who I am because one, we have mutual friends. But two, I think he watched Bachelor et. And three, I don't know how he got access to my DMs because he gets so many. But now I'm like, be careful what you say, Caitlin? Because I was like, it was like, you know when you go in the DMs and you see like, Kailen Bistow's tied unit, sorry, Kailin Bress was tied unit. And I was like, Oh no. Now he knows I was sicko.

I, okay, well, so I saw Chance the Rapper. I mean, wait, this is kind of the same story, but not really. Like, we've never connected. But I remembered before I got famous, I saw Chance the Rapper in Chicago in a store, like, literally just like buying a new car. Like, the cars are in there. And he's like, locked down. And he's got security cards around him, and he's buying this, like, really cool car. And I just stopped, like, like, an asshole.

And, like, he didn't see me. but I took a picture, like, zoomed in, and I'm like, what a creep I was? Like, and then I, and then you realize, like, people do that to you, and then you're like, what was I thinking? I know. But then I went, like, years later to tag him in his, um, his Ben and Jerry's flavor, you know, his cream flavor. And I saw that I had sent, I literally, like, took it and, like, tagged him on my stories.

And I was like, I'm really ashamed of this behavior. But he could, could he see what it was that you tagged him in? I think if you're tagged in a story, doesn't that live forever or no? So, okay, there's times where I'm like, oh, it's still there. he can see what I did. And then there's other times where it just said the name. Okay, because it expires. But did he see it? No. Oh. He didn't. I know. This is just a me thing. Oh. I was like, wow, you know chance? Yeah, me and we're best friends. We call each other before bed sometimes. It's like, good night. I love that trend. He and Jonah's just like tucked into bed.

Like, bye, Chan. Yeah. Yeah. Totally. Definitely. That's so, but I'm trying to think of a time where I was, oh. I don't know if I told this I think I've told the story because it's cool shit. Yeah. I was at F1, and the night before, Carly Clause was having, like, a house party that I got invited to. Wow. And I'm standing there with my girlfriends and we're talking, and Mila Kunitz and Ashton Kutcher were right there. And she, like, turned her back.

And my girlfriend was like, I don't think she wants to talk to us. And I went, actually, I think she's fan-girling because I know she watches the show. She immediately turns back over to me and she goes, I'm sorry, I am dying who you are right now. And I was like, same. That's so crazy, because they, they, like, hosted a date. Yeah, yeah. They're huge, huge bachelor fans. And I was like, I don't even care about that, well, that's 70 shows great, but I'm, like, such a family guy nerd.

I had all the DVDs. I know, like, you could tell me, like, that time that Peter did this and I'm like, that's season four. That's crazy, really? I was obsessed with the show, and I was like, oh my God, it's Meg. Like I heard my egg's voice. Oh my God, it's Meg. Like, you just like talk to her with your eyes closed the whole time. I want to do.

And it was like, it still is, but it always was on my bucket list to be a voice on that show one day. You should make a family guy spin off and you just so you can have a part in it. That sounds like that reeks of effort. It does. Yeah. Is that not? Well, you're so good at creating content and like you actually sitting down and like putting in the work and the editing and the time. I have a really funny idea.

And no follow-through. Great. Because I'm just like, eh. But the cool thing is you can use those ideas, even that's a video right there. You open your phone up and you're like, here's all the videos I'd make if I had the time and cared enough. And then you post that. It's just like a fast, like, here's what I would do. Yeah.

So if anyone wants to steal my content ideas, please. You know that trend where it's like, it's every time where someone just goes like that song and they go like this, the doors are like their funeral and then they go like the song like and all the people walking and they have the names of the people walking that could be your video of you like these are my ideas and it's like it all yeah that's a good idea i don't see and then that alone i'm like but i probably won't do it yeah you're like i'd have to find the song they use and honestly that's a lot of work the way that your brain works is it if there's like any roadblock this is a not patronizing question i mean this genuine yeah like if there's a barrier even like one does your mind

to like only with social media oh okay but what's something that you could like no matter what time of day you have the energy for it caroling my dogs of course um swimming in my pool okay i meant like with work but no these are great too uh podcasting like i love podcast yeah yeah i love it so much yeah you've been doing it for a long time which is crazy that i still love it yeah because you would think after eight years you'd be like this is work now totally and i'm sure there are times where i'm like oh i don't want to go but once i get there i'm like i love this Yeah. But I don't know.

I really love doing dance videos. Yeah. Okay, cool. I do. I could dance anytime day. You're such a good dancer. Well, thank you. I love it.

Dancing to me is my favorite thing in the world to do. Really? What about singing? Because I know that you love singing too. Yes. It's the thing that's the scariest to me. Of course. But do you love it?

Yeah. Yeah. Not as much as dancing, but yes. I love there. But your voice is insane. Thank you. When I first went into the studio to record my song, it takes me at least an hour to be like,

Okay, I think I'm warmed up. Totally. Do you do warm-ups? Yes, but then I'll, like, we'll start recording, but I'm so nervous that I'm breathing differently. I'm in my own head. I know that I can hear myself in the music, but everyone else is just hearing me like raw vocals and I'm like, uh-huh.

I do not record around people. I can't do anything around people, to be honest. If Jonas walks in on me, even putting my phone up to take a video, I want to like grab it and throw it out the window. I want to stamp up. Yeah, no, I can't. I had to. I just collabed with one of my friends at PJ France.

Did you see the Down Bad duet we did? No. It was really cool. But I just, I only ever make and things and sing and write alone. And so he was tracking me. Oh, yes, I do remember this. Yeah. And I just felt, I just was like, I wanted to cry.

I was like, I can't do it. Or like even yesterday I'm like filming content for the book, like doing little videos that we can like release. And I had like a roomful of people watching me do this on the spot. And it's just like I'm, I just lock up. I am so self-conscious. That's, it's interesting because, like, I relate to that, but also it's, it's so circumstantial for me. Really?

If I have a group, I'm like, I'm on. Really? If, like, one person that I'm close to walks in, I'm embarrassed. Okay. If it's singing, forget about it. I am a train wreck. Okay, back to you. Okay.

I'm taking this podcast over now. Thank you for coming, Caitlin. So, what are your hopes and dreams? Like, tell me. It was so funny. thinking about this the other day with just how much I talk and for a living and, like, social media. And I felt, I'm like, what more do I have to say? Everybody knows everything about me. Do you ever feel that way? Or are you like, there's always more?

I just think that my, there's always more. Like, my best idea is my next idea, kind of a thing. And have you always been like this? And I mean that in a good way. Like, creative, funny, honest, vulnerable, open. That question just is funny. I've always been like this. Have you all, but there's like the way you drew it out like this. So have you always been like this? That's unfortunate.

That was projecting. No, no, no. I have, I have, I've always, I'm autistic and so I think I've always like overshared. Yeah. Because that's the only way I know how to connect, connect with people. I'm just going to tell you everything and you can choose whether you really like me or not. And I'm lying if I don't tell you my entire life story and do you want my social security number just in case like you ever needed a new identity. I don't know. I can help you out.

But I think that the creativity, I'm just learning now that like it's not just like a means to an end to solve a problem because I always saw the things I loved doing that were creative. Like, well, I'm in a songwriting class. So I have to make an EP or I'm I, yeah, like I'm a harmony singer so I'm just like I'll just do the backup because like someone needed me to fill in like yeah but I'm learning now that like that creativity is like such a superpower and it really fills me up and it makes me feel so purposeful and it's like learning how to act like flex that muscle of like making things and knowing that I am an endless well like you really are people try and like copy you or and I don't mean that to be like I'm so amazing I mean like most people operate when they create out of a

sense of scarcity. And when you do something on the internet and someone is inspired by you and does it again, it's like, I've been asked, like, doesn't that make you mad that people like try and copy you or something? And I'm like, no, because like no one, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm me. So yeah, they can have it. I'm going to make something new. And like, and, uh, yeah, the idea of like, how hard can it be is, is a huge thing that I just operate my entire life. Like that's, so when you say other people like, you know, they, I take it as like, oh, they got inspired. But Ever think of, like, where a joke originated? It's like, that person never gets the credit.

I know, but that's... Like, who came up with knock, knock, who's there? We'll never know. I mean, we probably could Google that. Oh. But, I mean, not really. Again, effort. I think...

I like the mystery. I think, yeah, I like not knowing. I think that, like... But you get to be that person. You're the original. Yeah. You created that. Having that credit and being an original, like, is important.

But I think those are two different conversations, too, because, like, the person creating something and maybe not from the perspective of like the knock knock joke but like when I make something and someone's inspired by it like I know and it's all that really matters and so I just make things because I love making them and if people want to enjoy it and be inspired and use that and snowball it and add to it it's like that's so cool like that's that's what like being collaboratively creative is all about I just feel like nobody can also storytell the way that you do there is something about your ability to tell a story while mixing in humor but like vulnerability like you're like crying but you're laughing but you're honest and you're

cracked open but like yeah you're just so you in these videos and it's like you like you is a little girl obviously you've really like stepped out of your comfort zone you've pushed yourself to get to where you're at because I know you've talked so openly just about like your struggles and now you are able to like use those and tell your story and make people feel so part of your life. It's, I don't know. I don't know if the, the question's how. It's just more like, good job. Thank you. Okay. Writing that in my journal. I'm going to come back to that later cry about it. That's amazing. I think, to be honest, I think that, so I have three older brothers and my, like, family life was always just, there was a lot going on. And I was the youngest

by a lot. And so by the time I came around, there was not enough attention to go around for everybody. Does that make sense? It was hard. And I think I learned, like, if I'm going to say anything, it's got to be entertaining or else, like, no one's going to hear it. I had a comedian on yesterday who said the same thing. He's the youngest. There was a lot of people. His sisters were loud. And he's like, if I'm going to be heard, I got to make it count. Got to make it funny. Yeah. Yeah. It's got to be someone like. So you've always been funny. That feels like it's a weird thing to be like, yes. So you think you're really pretty. So you agree. So you, yeah. I have always.

really appreciated comedy and humor and like even my dad and I would play a game called Make Me Laugh where literally he just I would sit there and be like make me laugh like which is just so funny about that now. I grew up on like SNL all the old like would stay up to like I got to stay up until the first musical act and that was right it started getting late and then I have to go to sleep but like all that I've just I've really always appreciated that and so I think when you consume so much of that your natural output is going to be what you're inputting and So it's just always been, yeah, I think that, I think also I leaned on humor more because I just wasn't comfortable feeling anything else. So I just make things funny when I was little.

Yeah. And then it wasn't really until I became a healthy person that I learned how to infuse the vulnerability into it. Because it's like, you can make it a joke, but you also don't want to take away from what's happening in this moment. No, you do that perfectly. Thank you. That's a lot of therapy. Oh, God, I feel that. Yeah. Yeah. You know, like, you can have too much therapy where you can over analyze things because I've done so many different kinds of therapy too where I'm like EMDR talk therapy childhood like inner child inner teen now like what is EMDR I've heard it and I don't know what it is couldn't tell you what it stands for I think it's a electro magnetic dream maybe I don't know yeah yes this is wait no

it's not that's such a lie now I'm like oh look at electromagnetic Elise now I want to look up the it's something i i movement desensitating electric it's shock therapy and then i got a lobotomy right after jesus as soon as that left my mouth you're like i'm going to fact check that's wrong um yeah i i movement desens desensitization and reprocessing oh okay so i have done it where i sit in a chair and i hear a sound go through both like they put speakers on either side and they like mark down where they can see my brain shift when I'm like talking about something or when they're asking me a question and something just the way I even like tick my eyes or something and then where in the brain that's happening yeah what I also

have done is I have a therapist also that I do on Zoom and she did it with me where I follow this blue dot and I just follow it with my eyes and she like sees where I'm like and then we talk about something. And then she goes, okay, now focus on that thought and follow the blue dot. And then what it's done for me is helps me sit in discomfort because usually I try and move through anything uncomfortable really quickly. And so I'll have something that like really stresses me out, upsets me, triggers something. And then I'll usually just be like, I'll just distract myself and like, but this makes you actually like sit through it and like talk through it and then process it differently. Okay, so it forces you to not, like, leave your, like, detached in the moment.

Which I am, I am the detaching queen. Yeah, yeah. I am. Like, I'm barely in here right now. I don't know I am. My mom is in California. Who are you? Yes. Yeah. That is, I'm like, disassociation is my, my superpower. Yeah. And honestly, it can be. You're a singing mind's disassociation. But it can be. And I think that it's so crazy because there is a reason you do that. Your body is, your brain, it has needed that at some point in your life and that kept you safe and now it's like well thank you so much brain for like being good at leaving my body but like I don't need that anymore exactly we don't need to do that yeah we don't need to do that so we're retraining our brain to not so interesting and also yeah it is you can still use it for good like for me when I'm trying to like lock in with work I think that

I'm really good at zoning everything else out but also I can not eat for 16 hours and swallow and my throat is like dry and I like I'm I have a migraine because I'm locked in and so you have to find ways to not do the thing that you're also very good at they can see and what I do is I just go nap I'm like that's me dissociated yeah you're just like I'm done I'm just gonna nap so I don't have to feel feelings which anytime things happen you're like I'm just sleepy like you just like this automatic response to you're really sleepy it is and it all started and this is why I'm bringing this up is because I also have used humor in that way too yeah um and I I was so painfully shy in school but at home I was like so funny and outgoing and yeah when I was like I think three or four there's a crazy

tornado that just like destroyed where I grew up and I remember that was the first time I thought well if I if I go to sleep it won't be happening and that was it's like a first memory of mine wow is being in this bunk bed in my I called her my grandma she was my grandma but in her like cabin and I was like I'm just going to go to sleep and then I would do that I got hepatitis when I was five. And I was like, I'm just going to go to sleep. And I would just sleep and wake up and be sick and then sleep and then be sick. And like, I would just train myself to sleep instead of feel like such a young age. The fact that you're so aware of it is really impressive. Well, that's a lot of therapy. Yeah, a lot of therapy. Yeah. Inner childhood. I like, yeah,

you've worked on that. Yeah. I hate when I, I hate, I'm another way I just associate is like by conceptualizing and intellectualizing my feelings. And I can tell you exactly why I'm doing what I'm doing but that doesn't mean that I'm experiencing it I'm like just seeing it I'm like visualizing another stranger doing it almost and so trying to like like yeah I am like if Jonas and I get in a fight or not fight but like if I feel sad and I just detached from him it's like then I'm like sorry I come back and I don't actually process what happened I'm like sorry I ran away I yeah I'm I have abandonment issues so I wanted to leave you before you left me kind of that kind of thing and then and I never actually talked about the problem and so it's learning how to that

and take that away and feel the things. It's hard. See, I wonder, like, that probably helps with communication so much in a relationship where you can actually be aware of what you're not doing wrong, but just how you function and how, why you're doing what you're doing. And, like, to be able to say that out loud, but I feel like, I always sound like such a man-hater. I'm not.

But men, like, it takes them so long to realize what the problem is. Like, it's like, we have one man in here. Are you listening to this? Tell me if I'm right. you're like you have this outburst or you say something or you're upset about something and then it takes like you just needed a little nap or a sleepy and then you realize oh it was actually about this and then am i right To be honest, most of the time I just need a nap. I really don't breaky. Yeah, they're not wrong for needing it.

It's just I feel like women can be like, I'm sorry I did this. It's because it is this, this, this, this. Yeah, I think that I think that women probably feel more pressure to explain as well. And so like, but I think that there's always problems underneath the problems. And I think that like with, I mean, Jonas and I, the difference between us is he'll see the problem and I'll see the problem behind the problem. And I think that's where the issue is. It's like, have you seen that video that. it's not about the nail? No. Oh my gosh. Okay. So this is a great example. Have you seen

the not about the nail? Okay. Is anybody? No, okay. Um, so it's, it's an incredible explanation of what exactly what we're talking about. So this woman is sitting on a couch, crying and she's got a nail like in her forehead, like a, is she a cartoon I hope? No, I mean, it's a, it's a, it was a sketch. Oh, okay, okay. Special effects. SFX, special effects and makeup. But, um, she's crying. She's talking about how, how her head hurts so bad and how how it's been just a terrible day. And she's got this pressure in her forehead. And she can't get away. And he's like, well, you've got a nail in your forehead. And she's like, it's not about the nail. It's not the nail. It's something else. It's not the nail. And like they just keep

going back and forth. And he goes, okay, it's not the, I feel like it would at least help taking the nail out. It's not the nail. Why do you keep talking about the nail? And it's that. It's like there is a problem and there's a problem underneath the problem. Yeah. I think that's more what I see with Jonas and me. I don't know how we got on this topic. I don't know either, but this is so us. It's so us. Have you ever seen a 40-year-old virgin? Oh, yeah. Okay, remember when they're speed dating? Yes. And he goes back to, and it's his old girlfriend that he like cannot get over and they're fighting. And he's like, this is so us. So us. Yeah. That's what I thought of right now. Who knows how we got to where we got to, but I like that we're here. I like it. I like it. I like that we're

That movie, I listened to Jenna and Angela's podcast about The Office, The Office Ladies, and they said that that movie, like Steve Carell was in the middle of filming the office, did that movie and then got really famous, and then came back to start filming the office. And so everyone watched him basically like, I mean, he was already famous, but he like took off. It became in this, like, new level of stardom. And so hearing them talk about what was going on in all their careers outside of the most incredible show I've ever seen on television. Yes.

It's just, it's really cool. Do you listen to their podcast? No, but I don't know where I was going to go. Amazing. I wanted to like, period. Great. Next question. What's your favorite color?

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Now that's approachable to me. Yeah. And I feel like it'd be approachable to everybody. Yeah. I mean, some people don't like that format. But I think it's, it's so, it's art to be honest. I'm so proud of it and it's like it's beautiful and it's funny but it's but the but I was what I was saying is the process of writing it. I wrote like one story at a time and kind of all over the place and when you're writing like a just straightforward novel you do write chapters out of order as well but um this was a little bit easier because I just got to pick the best of the best of what I wrote and then make a collection of it and it was hard to let people in to the process because like I was saying I do everything by myself and I never show anyone

something before it's done. Was it hard because you were feeling exposed or was it hard because you didn't want you wanted it to be yours? I wanted to impress the people that were helping me right because I've just never given anything unfinished to somebody before and so like

an editor that's helping you edit is going to see a million drafts of this and they're going to see it before it's finished and like I just kept I literally I just remember keeping like asking my editor it does this read is this a book like like I literally was like do I seem like a writer yeah and what a crazy question I've been writing my whole life and right I was going to say that you are but but like

I just I the book space it's it's like holy to me I'm like it's like a reverence for like the literary world and I just didn't want to make a mockery of it and I didn't want anyone to think like well here's this girl that's coming in she got a book deal because she's famous right it doesn't matter the page because people are going to buy it because their faces on it that I didn't I don't I didn't want that to be what was said when this book came out and when people read it I wanted I'm there will there will be people that buy that book because of that reason yeah of course but then when they open it I want them to be like oh my god this is such an experience like this is so good I literally opened it and felt that that was an experience I love I'm so glad I really like I can't wait to

go on my drive and just get through everything because I really I'm not kidding when you said I want them to feel an experience. I was like, I didn't want to start the interview because I just kept wanting to go through it all so much. So special. And I feel like it's something you can always come back to. It's not like you read it and you finish it and you put it on the shelf and it's gone. Yeah. I feel like you can always come back to a lot of it. It's like finding, I mean, the way I explain it to people is like it's like a, it's not a memoir. It's like a modern art museum of installation of someone's life, but like, photos of like their, their favorite memories. And so you're getting to know them through this, like, walk through of all this.

But it's not, it's what they chose to, like, select. And it's like, it's beautiful, but it's not the complete picture. But it's all really important moments, if that makes sense. No, that makes total sense. And I love that the title is, that's a great question. I'd love to tell you because that's obviously you. That's a great question. I feel like that kind of started your videos too.

Yeah. The, do you mean that intro? Yeah. Yeah. Like, well, that was, I was like, what's the worst first date I've ever been on? That's a great question. I'd love to tell you. The Taco Bell.

Yeah, yeah, the taco story. Yeah. And so I just knew, because my videos were so long, I just knew, you need to know what this video is about right away. And then you can decide whether you want to go on that journey with me or not. And so I just liked it. It was like a hook that I accidentally kind of made that ended up sticking around. And now any, but I actually say that in my real life. And so anytime I accidentally say it and people catch me saying it in the wild, it's like a celebrity site, it's like sighting of the sound of my voice.

It's really funny. People are like, it happened. You did it earlier. I was like, she did the thing. Yeah. I know we kind of like touched on it because you said, I know you said this is like your most vulnerable project yet. Is that why? Because you were like, I've never handed in something unfinished or is it what's actually in the book? You know what? That's a great. It's so genuinely was coming out of your mouth. It really was. It's like not a bit. No, no. It's real. It's real. It's vulnerable for so many. reasons. I think what we were saying earlier, I rely so much on being funny that when I say when I make when I make something that's not funny, I get so scared because it has to be really good. It has to be like enjoyable to watch and let to read. And so there's so many stories in here that are there's always going to be like a lightness that I bring to like deep things. But some of them are just heavy and they are like sad that they happened but happy in light of the rest of my life because like here we are you know but I think that that's why I was nervous

I think that without the ability to be performing this story for somebody and just relying on them relying on your voice yeah like relying on my writing style to be so strong and so unique to me that they I trust that they're going to hear it the way I would say it but then I found out oh yeah I'm not found out but I then recorded the audio book right and now I'm like well this is cool because like what people can't see in the visuals of like like the illustrations, now you're getting to hear me, like, not perform, but like, explain the way that I was right, like how I heard it in my head. Yeah. And so what I tried to make up for without having that with the illustrations, now people can hear it in the audio book. And so I'm like,

this is just, you should do both just at the same time. This is so cool. Yeah, I know. I have done that where I read. Yeah. I did that with Hannah Brown's book. I used her book for my book club, which if I still had my book club, I would do your book, but I'll still tell people about it. because I love reading so much and I also love audiobooks and it depends on Hannah actually didn't read hers on the thing but I was in romance novel right but I've yeah but I found it so easy for my brain to follow along better if I was listening and reading at the same time I mean that must have been so emotional also to read I have to show you I have to show you a video of me there were so many stories that I had to just stop like talking because I was I was

getting so choked up, reading it. And, like, it's more of the stuff that was about, like, Jonas that once we start to really fall in love in my story and, like, reading some of this, it's, like, in light of our whole life together. And, like, we have kids. It's like, I'm literally reading about us meeting. And then I did the dedicate, not the dedication. Well, yes, the dedication. But in the end, I did, people call it, like, acknowledgeance, but I called it, like, gratitude. And I, and then I just, it's a lot of, it's like pages of, because I'm like, there's so many things. I'm like, as if I'm never going to write another book again. I'm like, this is my one

chance you know it was like so funny but i i wrote some to uh my boys and i oh gosh i couldn't i cried i and nobody said a word everyone knew to let me go and i was like if i get one word out of time we're going to have to splice this whole thing up but we left some of the emotion in there because it's like they're i just kept thinking they are going to hear this one day this lives forever like they're too young to know now yeah like they will hear this one day and it just really just i'm like i do everything I do for them. Yeah. And like, I just want them to be so proud of me. And so it was like a lot. It was a lot to read it. But it was so therapeutic. Well, I like that they kept the emotion because that's also so you. Yeah. You know, like that's so you to cry during that time. And if you

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Thank you for, like, supporting me and loving me. Like, of course I want to say hi. But how did that happen for you? Because it was, was it, did it feel overnight? Did it feel like a slow, gradual thing? It was overnight. I mean, the, the being recognized in the new life, it's like overnight. Yeah.

And we just never went back. So how did you, because you didn't really ask for it? Like, I knew what I was kind of signing up for. Yeah. But you were just like, boy, I went viral, which is amazing. Was there any part of you that was like, uh, oh. Because it's so overwhelming. Oh, yeah.

I had a wiki page made of me the day that video went out. And people could say whatever they want on a wiki page, right? Yeah. And I was crying and I turned to Jonas. And I was like, I'm so sorry. I'm like, I'm so sorry I did this to us. And like, he's like, why are you sorry? And I was like, I just, I mean, the wiki page photo was of me pregnant with August.

And we had just had him. And like, I just felt like exposed. I felt really. I mean, I spent a lot of my, I spent a lot of my childhood feeling that way. And I finally got to this, like, safe, like, family and we're in Nebraska and all that. And then it's like, I opened it up. And I was just fearful because I didn't know what came with it. But I had been making content and, like, slowly kind of, I had no plan for any of this to happen.

But I loved making things. And so it actually was a steady growth. And Jonas and I were like, what should we do when we break $100,000? Because, like, I was going to get to that point. And I was so excited. And then, like, the taco video happened. And I was like, I hit a million, like a couple days, barely like that's a couple of days, but a little while. And I just, I just was like, okay, that's great.

And I just kept making videos because that was what I had been doing. And I just let that be. And I just was like, I like, I like telling stories. So I'm just going to keep doing it. And I'm really glad I just kept moving forward because, like, I could have just sat in that. And I could have been like, well, I went viral. So this is awesome. I'm just going to keep harping on that, you know?

Right. And I was like, okay, tomorrow I'm just going to wait. up and do another video because your next idea is your best idea and you are endless well of creativity and you keep going. I want to know we're talking about like I get overwhelmed with people. I get overwhelmed with social media. But you're sharing such vulnerable stories and you are inviting so many people into your life and you do have so much going on and you are a mom and you're doing all these things. But how do you take care of yourself when you're so overwhelmed? Like what do you do for you? Do it. That's a great question. I would love to tell you.

I get goosebumps You're like faint Full body jealous Yeah Is it specifically when I'm like Close to burnout? Is it like overwhelmed? Is it day to day? Is that what you're asking? Like burnout I would say like when you're

Because there are times where I Will just say to even my podcast team I'm like I need to be left alone today I'm gonna crush out Yeah So not well Yeah yeah I mean yeah

I am much better at Taking care of myself in small ways but I am really bad at recognizing when I'm about to like fully crash out and it really I rely on like other people to kind of like Jonas specifically and then two of my friends that I'm hanging out with later today. I'm really excited.

They live in New York. Oh, that's nice. Yeah, they see me and they're like I feel like you're close to that edge and it's hard. It's because there's never going to be a good time to take a break ever. There's always stuff.

Also, if you are taking a break from work, you're a mom. Yeah. I don't get time off. Yeah, the weekend. What is a weekend anymore? Yeah. It's, it's a, yeah, just parents in general, it's, you really, it's, your whole life is about

these two people that you're taking care of. And so, yeah, I just, I've learned that, like, none of this can happen if I'm not here. Right. And so, I mean, in terms of, like, if I, if I crash out to the point where I start having scary thoughts, like, none of it, I can't, I can't do all those fun things if I, if I'm not well. And so, um, I've just learned that, like, I need to get better at taking. breaks before I get to that point, but there's also not going to be a perfect time to take a break. And so if you need it, you need to advocate for yourself and surround yourself with people

that love you and trust you. And when you say I need a break, they move heaven and earth to like, make that happen. And I do. I'm surrounded by people that do that for me. And so nice. Yeah. And they'll shoulder that and be like, we'll do whatever we need to do. And like, I literally just canceled a trip next month because I was like, I'm on the road a lot right now and I miss my family. and we just need some time at home. And my team was like, great. No, no worries, we'll reach out. And it's like, it's so important.

I do feel like the times they are a change in. Like, I feel like now we, I mean, you have done the work to surround yourself with that team. Like, you've picked the right people to support you. Yeah. And to know, like, that that will in the end result have you being a better version of yourself and that they understand that. That was something that's still something that I love about my girlfriend, Cleo. Do you know my girlfriend? She's like my business partner, my friend, she's helped me build what I have.

And she has always put my mental health first. I love that. And it's, I think it's why I can still do what I'm doing. I think she's really protected me. And I think that's really special to find people like that. And especially when, you know, you are such, like, your mind just must be always going. You're just so creative and you are a writer. I'm so proud of you for this book.

I really am. Like, what was the hardest chapter to write? to be honest the hardest things in the book to write were about Jonas really because there's so many stories that are I'm only telling one perspective of my experience of it and I've changed their name and I've changed identifying details about them to where no one could like track them down but the stories are true yeah but with Jonas his name is Jonas and people are reading our story and Jonas is there and is like reading my interpretation of our story right and that's I'm more nervous. I was more nervous for him to read that than, like, the whole world to read this book because I'm like, I want to make sure that I'm representing you. I'm, people know you. And I just wanted, I don't want to speak for you. And I left all that till the end. It was, which it's funny because it should have been like the easiest thing because it's like so. I care the most about it. I care. I, he's like the best person I've ever met. And I, I, it's a crazy task to take on like trying to describe your life.

love for the best person you've ever met that is just so for you. And I'm like, do you approve of this? Like, I just want you to be proud of me. He literally reads it all. He has my, the galley at home by his bedside and he's annotating it. He literally, like, like it's his favorite book. Just like stickies in the book. It's crazy. I mean, it's not crazy. That's him. That's what it is. Oh my gosh. But like, I just cannot believe I am so lucky to be loved by him. And so, yeah, to write in that book and to get to share. that with the world is like really special and so I love it you are an angel and your little glossy eyes like I want that is so special like to build a life with somebody you feel that way about and

share children with and have that support like that is so I want to say rare but maybe that's just me being jaded but like it's special it's really special and I did not have an example of that and so I think I was so afraid to like find somebody and I just I just I just remember telling Jonas, like, I don't know how to do this. And everything I'm using in my mind is what not to do. Like the example I have just what not to do. And honestly, like, I think that's why us being healthy and our home healthy, like we have two values as a family and values I make decisions within the business and it's healthy and together. And so like if it keeps our family healthy, if it keeps me healthy, us healthy, the team healthy, and if it keeps us together, maybe not

geographically. Like right now I'm in New York for a week and he's with the kids. at home but like if it keeps us together on the same page all if our decisions are like we're in this together then that was the right decision and that's another way I take care of myself is like I'm I'm putting things in my life that keep me healthy and keep me together with my family and so you it's harder to burn out when I mean you can physically be tired but yeah it's when you have your mind and you're like when you have the right things on your schedule that like that add value to your life and it's it's really important but um yeah I think that those two values with our family are just everything.

And if I can give my kids what I didn't have that's like the greatest thing I'll ever be able to do in my life is like, again, you already are. It's amazing. I'm so, I feel so well lucky. How does Jonas become who he is?

We have gone through so much in our marriage in a very short time. Like just, I mean, we've been married now for seven years, eight years? 2018, 19, 1920, one, two, three, four to five. What is seven? I literally, I can't, I forget that this is six in my mind.

I know that sounds so crazy, but I'm dyslexic. And so I like, I have, like, no anchor for how many. Once I had past five, I'm like, I have to count. I'm dyslexic with scene numbers. Yeah, really? Okay.

But not words. Really? Yeah, it's interesting. Interesting. Anyways, go on. We have gone through so much change in our marriage as people. And, like, he had great examples. And also, there were things that he also didn't like about and wanted to change.

But that's everybody's, you know, family. And I, it's just so crazy that we've changed together on the same page. That's rare, too. That is rare. Where to be together with someone for so long and both go through wildly, like wild life stuff that changes you fundamentally as a person. Right. And to have it still be together. Yeah. I have to choose that to go in the same path. Well, I was going to say it's probably because you did make that decision to do things together. And you guys are just so like true love. Like you know that I feel like. We really are. Yeah. I love growth though. No, me too. That's really sweet. And I feel like for somebody to come in and have you surrender to that kind of love.

and just like accept it not i'm sure not overnight but over time yeah and continue to show you that he's not going anywhere and my god yeah i'm gonna later i'll show you the a chapter that i really want you to just pay attention to but it was like when no matter what i mean i've i've emotionally run away physically run away i always come back but it's like yeah he just says like i'm always going to love you i'm never going to leave you and i'm going to spend the rest of my life making sure you know that and so all my decisions and everything I do is going to point to the fact that I'm always going to love you and I'm never going to leave you. He's like, if you want to run away, you can run away. I'm going to chase you. But also, I'm going to be here and you can come back. Like, and I, it's, he, he literally

will spend the rest of his life convincing me that he's never going to leave me. The security that just knowing that exists in my life is the only reason I can do what I'm doing right now. Yeah. I believe that. The safety of just, we're good. We're good. is just, I mean, my nervous system has never been safer. Also, I'm so anxious, but. Yes, but you can be both. Yeah, yeah. Because I'm the same.

I'm like, something has shifted for me, and I don't know if it's age. I don't know if it's not being in a relationship that doesn't feel right. Like, I don't know what it is. I think it's a combination of probably everything, where my nervous system has been so steady. I love that for you. I love that. But I still have it. I don't.

But I'm, no, I still. of anxiety, but like overall, it is just, I don't know what. It's like, I worry about things that matter more now than I'm worried about before. Yeah. Like, I worry about like my parents' health. I worry about like my dogs. But overall, I'm just like, I'm feeling more lucky in life. I'm like instead of, I'm so both. I'm so both because today I'm just like in a good phase of my kid. I'm literally afraid I'm going to bleed out onto this like couch right now. I'm dead serious. It's what for you? It's, it's hungover and about to get your period. Oh, no. I'm, I'm on. I'm on my period. I'm on my period. My drink of choice is a double kettle one and soda with

lemon and lime. I get that everywhere I go. That is the only thing I drink. Yeah. Can I ask you a question? One more question. Ask me whatever you want. What is something that you're really proud of yourself for right now in this season of your life? I think I'm really proud that I, am in a phase where I'm, like, getting better and focusing more on not being go, go, go. Yeah. Like, I'm, like, protecting my peace a lot more in life. I was getting to feel so much pressure because I'm not as busy as I was. And then I went, I've prayed for this.

I literally prayed to be not as busy and, like, just have my things that I love doing and having more downtime. And I'm proud of myself for, like, acknowledging it and enjoying it. And like on the really lazy, bored days, not feeling like I have to, I'm like, what do you get to do for you today? And like, I'll brush the dogs. Brushing the dogs after the pool is like. So sweet. My happy place right now.

I love that. It's like so simple. I'm like, I think that's what it is. I'm really proud of myself for like loving the simple things in life and knowing what matters. Yeah. Yeah. I love that. I love you.

I love you too. Thank you so much for coming on today. Thank you for having me. I was really like, I know I told you I was stressed about my mom last night, but I was also so excited through the night. I was like, I get to like see you in person and talk to you. And like, I'm so proud of your book. Thank you. I'm just like, you deserve all of the things. And you deserve the love that you get. You deserve to be comfy in your skin. You deserve everything that you're getting. Thank you. Yeah. You're going to make me cry. That was the point. I was like, come on. I even check. My goal.

My goal. I was right. I'm just kidding. Thank you so much. I really appreciate that. Yeah. Where can people get your book and when? October 28th. I already know that. October 28th. Anywhere that you buy books. How do I say? I feel like that's... I just did... I just literally recorded videos all day yesterday saying scripts of where people could get their books and I'm like, you ever heard of a bookstore? I don't know. Amazon. I'm so ridiculous. Yeah. I have a link on my Instagram.

What is your Instagram for anyone who's... I'm sure everyone's following you that listens, but... What is it? Is it Elise underscore Myers? Not me, not even knowing my own. Come on now. I think, yeah. Elise underscore Meyer. And yeah. Will you eventually do a book tour like where you go to?

Oh, that's so fun. We're building it out. Oh, good. Yeah. Do you have a website? I do have a website, at leastmires.com. Perfect. Yeah.

I'll put all that on. None of the book stuff is on there right now. Well, you're literally, I would say in my top three favorite people to follow on the internet. Oh my gosh. You make me feel seen. You make me laugh. You make me feel things.

You check all. all the boxes for like what kind of media I want to intake into my book. Yes. My goal when I make content I always say is to make people feel loved, known, and like they belong. And so that's a special thing. You do. Your voice also like tickles my ear holes in the right way. I love that. Yeah, that's weird, but I mean it. I mean it. Good. Thank you so much for coming today. on Pluto TV with horror movie collections from paranormal activity, The Ring. You will die in seven days.

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