Off The Vine with Kaitlyn Bristowe - Erin Foster: Don't Trust The Internet or AI Nudes

Episode Date: August 22, 2023

Erin Foster, if that’s even her real name after what the world wide web has lied about, is on the pod with Kaitlyn and co-host & captain Lo VonRumpf (unfortunately no longer with facial hair). Erin is a writer, actress, and podcast host (who has mixed feelings about Halloween) and she is here as an open book to talk about everything from her passion for fashion to the writer’s strike to the Bachelor franchise. She had her very own Netflix show in the making when the strike began, and Erin gives Kaitlyn and Lo the low down on what is happening in Hollywood and describes her future show which is based on a very familiar experience. As a fellow “auntie” like KB, Erin knows what it’s like to be in love with little ones, and she opens up about her own egg-freezing journey and navigating fertility struggles. Plus, the three get into the scary reality of AI, why Kaitlyn has muted Lo on Instagram, and Lo comes out of the closet… again! Stay connected, Vinos! Watch on the Off The Vine YouTube channel  Follow on Instagram @offthevinepodcast  Join Our Off The Vine Facebook Group  Thank you to our sponsors! Check out these deals for the Vinos: INDOCHINO - Go to Indochino.com and use code VINE to get 10% off any purchase of $399 or more. ANGI - Your home for everything home.  90 DAY: THE LAST RESORT SESSIONS: Listen to the 90 Day: The Last Resort Sessions podcast wherever you get your podcasts. PROGRESSIVE - Quote your car insurance at Progressive.com to join the over 29 million drivers who trust Progressive.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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million drivers who trust progressive. Welcome to All the Fine. I'm your host, Caitlin Bristow. And I'm your co-host, Loe von Rumpf. Nice to have it, Capitan. You guys are in for a treat today because Google would say that she is an American actress, writer, and podcast host who loves Halloween, but we found out that's bullshit. The internet cannot be trusted. Isn't that crazy? It's It said she speaks fluent in French. We find out about that, too. But it's weird to me is if I want to know the answer to something, where do you go? Google it right away.

Yahoo. Just going to go. What? No. Oh, was Google. Yeah. Wikipedia. Dear Yahoo. Nobody ever said, just Yahoo it.

Sincerely, Google. Yeah. But we can't trust it. Yeah, we can't. Can you trust the Internet? Can you trust AI? No. No.

Absolutely not. After this episode specifically. Yeah, we get all into that. Yeah. We get into AI. We get into the right. writer's strike, how we can support it, what's going on there. If there's light at the end of the tunnel.

Do we talk about fertility? We talked about fertility, too. Talking about being gay? I came out again on this podcast. Hey, you know what? Come out as many times as you need. Sure will. Okay, so enjoy this conversation with Aaron Foster.

Just so lovely and so funny. Do people know I'm with you on it? Does it say? Well, as soon as they tune in, they're going to hear your voice. Okay. I'm here. Oh. Cheers.

No, I love it in Nashville. I live here, born and raised. Oh, me too. Yeah, but I... You go there a lot to see her? All the time. Well, I'm glad to know you guys are there because I have to go there more often. And I have one girlfriend in Nashville, and it's so funny because I love her.

But when she lived in L.A., we never hung out with each other. But the fact that she's in Nashville, every time I go, I'm like, hey, so should we have lunch again. She's like, we never hung her when you lived in L. When I lived in L.A. That's so funny. Three girlfriends. Yeah, exactly. There's a good group of people out there.

Do you know Sean Johnson and Andrew East? She was an Olympic athlete and he, okay, well, they're the cutest. And they have a place in Nashville and they do friend hangouts once a month where they literally have like drink trucks and food trucks. Oh, fun. And they host game nights. And it's the most fun. And it's the most fun because it's such solid people that go and hang out there. And I've made so many friends just from going to that.

Amazing. Yeah. Okay. So I'll take you as my date to the next one because we're single now. Okay. Okay. Hey, I was wondering if we're going to tackle that one. I've tackled it a few times.

Okay. Okay, you have tackled it. Yeah. I'm sorry. It's okay. I'm sorry. I'm sure it's not okay. I mean, it's really not.

It depends on the day, the hour. Yeah. The staying off social media has really done wonders for my mental health. Yeah. I really believe it would be in the toilet if I was on. And is that because you don't want to see him or what people are saying? Or what is it? All of it.

Yeah. Somebody. My sister. Like, sent me a link of an article. And I'm like, don't send it to me. That's why I'm sticking off of it. But it's nothing bad. It's just what I don't see doesn't hurt me.

And even if it's just with a friend, like, and I'm like, I don't know, had a following out with somebody. It doesn't happen very often. But I just find for myself, I'm not the kind of person that goes shopping for pain to, like, go find it and, like, hurt myself. I'm really good about shutting that off. And so I feel like I need like a week, maybe two, to regroup and clear the brain. And then I had my assistant go in and just.

mute everybody that could possibly bother me, Loe being one of them, because, well, yeah, you're also friends with Jason. He's really close. He's muted. Oh, that's a tough position to be in. Yeah. Thank you for understanding that. And I don't want to be upset at you.

That's fair. I get it. I'll unmute eventually. Take time. It was my longest relationship to and my healthiest. So what am I doing? That part sucks. Yeah.

The healthiest part. Yeah. But I do think having literally zero knowledge of anything about. your relationship, rather than you guys were engaged and you guys both seem really cute together, that it is a really, really positive indication of where you're at in your life that you had such a healthy relationship. And I think it's probably like a switch of a pattern. Because once you've been in something healthy, you do not miss the chaos of a toxic relationship. No. Also, I was looking at your Instagram, only you because I literally went like this. I pulled it up

and I went like this and I went to the search bar and I searched your name just to be like, Should I know anything new? Are you a numbers person or like spiritual or into like numerology or astrology or anything? I don't know enough about it really. Because you have one one one one one posts. Oh, I do. That's a really cool sign. 1111.

I didn't know that. Yeah, it's a whole thing. Should I never post again? Don't ever post again. And if you do, just delete one of the old ones. I'm down with that. Tons of like embarrassing podcast. I mean, sponsored posts that I can delete it.

But maybe it was just a sign for me because. I was writing it down what 11-11 means, and it signifies new beginnings, whether you're about to embark on a brand-new passage or you've already been on the right path scene, 1-1-1-1. Well, I think it's more for you than this for me, because you're the one who looked it up and you're the one who's seeing it. And so that is your message. Brush off a breakup, new beginnings for you. 11-11, sister. Don't you have a tattoo of that, too? I want one.

I don't have it yet, but I've always wanted 11-11 tattooed on me. I do laugh sometimes when people are like, oh, my God. So, like, every time I look at the clock, it's 11-11. And I'm like, I mean, everybody says that. You know, it's like my favorite number 13. It's like, get a new number. You know, get something original. I like number seven.

I look at, see, original. I look at 9-11 on the clock every day. Oh, that's dark. Yep. It is dark. I actually buried my best friend that day, too, so it is really dark. I know. I take it as a sign that she's there.

Oh, my God. So that having nothing to do with 9-11, I'm assuming. Right. Holy shit. Yeah, it was a car accident. So, yeah, I look at that. So dark and twisty can also be beautiful. Yep.

Yeah. And that's what we're going by. Yes. Okay. Speaking back to Nashville, you got married there. Yeah. So when was that? Where was that?

New Year's Eve 2020, 2020, 2019 to 2020. Oh, okay. Was that pre-COVID? Yeah, it was like a month before. Oh, wow. Okay. So you could actually have a proper wedding. Yeah, I like to think that I sort of created the whole thing, just that there would never be another bride again, you know?

That sounds like so far with you. I'm like, honestly, I just like to drop the mic on this. That was my moment. Great timing. Yeah. And also, I, when I was engaged, I really wanted a New Year's wedding. It's really fun. Yes.

People with kids don't love it because it's really hard to find like a sitter on New Year's Eve. Nannies are off. But sort of not my problem. Yeah, no, not your problem at all. You know? And if they want to be there, they will. Yeah, exactly. And everyone wears something that they feel good in for New Year's Eve and, you know.

Was it the no kids wedding? I know some people have put that policy in place. Yeah, it was a no kid's wedding. But then I ended up kind of regretting it because a bunch of kids want. wanted to come, and I don't know, I just wanted people to, like, take mushrooms and have fun and not feel like their kids are pulling on them, you know? But in the end, people wanted their kids there because it was, like, New Year's Eve, and they didn't really know how to do it both, so I was like, whatever, I don't care.

That's good feedback for maybe if I ever get married. I need to stop having a pity party over here. No, I think this is fresh. And, like, it's okay that everything feels about you right now because you're going through something traumatic. You guys will probably get back together next month. Oh, that's an interesting tape. He is the child in the divorce.

I'm trying to parent trap. He's trying to parent trap us. Okay. So you want them back together. Of course. Right. Oh my God. He did a whole post on Instagram about our breakup.

Only because, okay. Well, that's why you got blocked. Muted. Oh, sorry. To basically take some of the sting out. No, I know. I get your humor. And there was, it was, well, there was a bit of humor there, but it was more so because

I was inundated with so many DMs from people messages about whose side I'm going to take. And I was like, that's lame. Like, there is no side. So that's basically. I said. They're so sad I love them both, and here's cute pictures of us. Now I'm going to go cry. Now I'm going to go cry.

I know I accidentally, because you know how Instagram is just such an immediate thing. Like you go to sit on the toilet and you're like Instagram. I've done it so many times. And then I go, ah, and every single time your pictures came up because it was like a 10 slide show. And so I like full out of going to go and then like the next morning I do it. It's just the next slide over. And I'm like, get out of you. So I was like, Maggie.

Jason on one knee. Oh, my God. It was. Oh, God. Devastating. Did you ask her before you posted on this? Or just went, we talked about it.

I told you, I was like, I think I'm going to post something. Oh, yeah, and she laughed and then I did. Did Jason care? No.

Well, he's not on social media right now. Oh, he's not either. No. Oh, you didn't know that? No. But you and Jason are sharing, like, you guys are communicating. You're sharing custody of the dogs

and this friendship and there's a lot of things. Oh, the friendship's not there yet, though. Okay. It will be. I think. I hope. But we just have so much respect for each other that we're like, he's watching the dogs right now. But it's not like, hey, good morning.

How are you? Yeah. It's like, hey, cleaning lady gets there tomorrow, so letter in. Logistics. Yes, logistics, which is also sad. But, okay, want to know some fun facts? Sure. I was doing my research on you.

You're like, I'm going to do it. We switch gears into a fun fact. But when I was doing research, I saw, we were just talking about that you got married in Nashville. Yeah. I also found out things by Googling fun facts about Aaron Fosser. I'm so scared. You love Halloween. I do.

Oh, you don't? I don't think so. I think it's specifically Die de los Mueros. She loves the Latins here. She's in California. I mean, I do love the Latins. She loves a good taco night. I mean, I do Halloween, but I'm not like a Halloween.

I'm not like a crazy Halloween person now, but the internet does lie then. Right. Here's what I think. Would they say I like Halloween? Yeah. Says you're a big Halloween fan. That's really good. Like, you know Halloween people. Yeah.

They get really into it. The house is that, okay, yeah. My guess is that there's probably, like, friends I've taken Halloween photos with that are more famous, and then they get, like, going out, and then it looks like I'm, like, really into Halloween or something. Heidi Kloom over here. Yeah, exactly, who's clearly very into Halloween. So I'm sorry. I didn't mean to knock that one down. No, I love that you knocked it down.

That's so funny. It's like, I know a couple of fun facts about you. I did some serious research. You love Halloween. No, I don't. You used to watch The Bachelorette. No, I really did. Do you still

I have fallen off Yeah Okay I was really there for you In it thank you I was still deeply there Yeah Yeah I have some

Some opinion Some where it's gone Yeah I also think social media And like becoming influencers Just kind of ruined it Oh it's so terrible Like please don't

Like you live in Idaho You don't You definitely live in LA And you're a fucking cocktail waitress Yeah And you're not in medical sales You're not in medical sales So many medical sales

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the free Angie mobile app today or visit Angie.com. That's A-N-G-I-com. I just, wait, am I allowed to say the truth by hi-tela? Yeah, of course. I don't know if this is like Bachelor like sponsored or something. Oh no, no, no. No. I just loved, I loved the franchise so much because to me it was like watching a social experiment. Yes. And I thought it was so fascinating. And I tended to think that women were more likely to fall into the trap of thinking that this one guy was like God. Yeah. Then the men were. Like more men would be like, sorry, I'm not like really, I don't really feel thing for you and it never happened with the women. Because like the idea of competing against another woman for a guy, he becomes everything. And I was so like, I just found it really

interesting to watch. And I think that it's just become, well, everybody looks crazy. Yeah. Really plastic surgery now. That's just not like a look I'm loving to see. Everyone starts to look the same. And they're younger but looking older because of it. That's the thing is when you get plastic surgery young, you look older. Yeah. Yes. When it's done bad. Yeah. I'm not like that proud of how girls are represented on the show anymore, you know? I hear you. I agree with everything you're saying. I mean, I just hosted a date for the Golden Bachelor.

Will you watch that one? Oh, the older man. How old is he? 72. Oh, okay. That's sweet. I think that's cute. The women are fire, like fierce older women who are, like, supporting one another,

and I feel like it's going to be different. Okay. And so when I was there hosting a date, I mean, I tell producers and I tell people that work there all the time, how, like, I have a voice. I have a little one, and I'm like, you got to do this. You got to do things. different. They're like, you're on the golden bachelor. You're complaining about people being older. Here you are. I'm like, right. They're not old enough. I wanted them in walkers and like it

to be like, oh my God. Did you hear about that retirement community? Is it in Florida? And 55 and up. And it's like the number one place for STDs in America. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, those old, yeah, they're getting it on. Oh my. Media. I did hear that. Not just Florida. Crabs. Well, Florida. Yeah. Well, Herps. It's going down. No, I'm, I heard it's not just Florida, that that's actually in, yeah, with those, just like imagining a doctor, like a physician, and you have your like 86 year old person come in and you have to say to her like, babe, you have an S&D. Yeah, great grandma.

Yeah. I feel like at that age, you'd be like, I don't care. Yeah. Because just give me a pill for it. Yeah. You know, if it's one of those. Yeah. You do have a great sense of humor.

Phenomenal sense of humor. That one's true. That one is definitely not a lie. You've been on my podcast before, but you and your sister are very funny. Thanks. And also, you have a passion for fashion. I do. Yeah. I mean, I didn't used to, honestly, but now that I have my own clothing brand. That's when you got the passion for fashion. He's a stylist. You are? Oh, that's cool. Yeah. Well, I'll tell you. I used to really have, I don't know, I used to feel weird about fashion because a lot of my girlfriends are like high fashion girls. Yeah. And I really felt like I wasn't part of the conversation. And I didn't know what was cool. And I didn't. It felt like art to me where you're like, something's ugly. and everyone thinks it's cool because it's some brand. And then I'm like, I don't get it.

And everyone's like, if you don't get it, you don't get fashion. I'm like, okay, I guess I don't get it. So I never thought to start a fashion company. But then when we had this opportunity to, and we couldn't pass it up, once we started working on it, I realized that there are a lot of girls that feel like I do about fashion. I feel that way. Yeah, you want to go to a dinner party and have girls ask you what you're wearing because it's so cute, but you're not going to spend $1,200 on a pair of pants from the row.

Yeah. So, like, where do you live? You don't want to be fast fashion Zara, girl. And we're the same thing everyone else is wearing. Every wedding you go to, someone's wearing a Reformation dress. That's very cute. Right. But, like, you know, good chances you're going to see another girl in the exact same print.

Yeah. And so what does that girl? Where does she shop? And so now I'm really passionate about her journey, that girl. Yeah. Dressing her. And also she shops at, it's called Favorite Daughter, right? Yeah.

And do you have stores or it's all online? We have two stores in L.A. That's so cool. Yeah, it's really cool. I need to check out the store. Yeah, you guys should come. Yeah. Where is it?

Let's do it. You're here for a few days. Palisades Village and then in Beverly Hills right across from Air One on Beverly. Oh, amazing. Great locations. And both of them are next to Airwans, which is completely random, but very lucky. Very lucky. Yeah, good traffic.

Great traffic. And that girl's got money to spend. Yeah, big budget, Air One. If you're an Air One shopping girly, you got money. Sometimes I like to go. Give myself a little $30 smoothie. Right? If you're spending $11 on Buffalo cauliflower, you go across the street to favorite daughter.

I'll be there. It was right by on Dancing with the Stars. the lot is right by Erwin and I swear I spend every paycheck just like that every time. I also didn't know that you were fluent in French. Is that because your dad is Canadian or is that just random? I am not. Oh. What the hell?

I'm sorry, I don't know where this information came out. I didn't plant any of this, but it makes me sound very... Is this your sister? No. I would have been like... Honestly not. Maybe. Next question. Next Kesque. That's question. Anyways, what? Why is the internet telling you if you google these now i'm want to google you know what i'm going to google now but like when you google people's net worth and stuff it's all bullshit too yeah i think the internet

like it's just a lawless land fun facts about yeah look up about yourself and see if they're real bristow yeah let's see oh god it's gonna be like break up rumors oh 25 things that you don't know about katelyn bristow okay let's see okay she has an extreme fear of birds that true yes huge musical theater nerd true hey she could be an animal she would be a what is that? A kawaka? A Q-U-O-K-A, the happiest animal in the world. That don't sound like me. I want to be like, I don't know, something that's like allowed to be bitchy once in a while, but okay. A cat? A cat. Cats are bitchy. I got to tell my niece, she's facing me three times or it makes me something. Well, my answer. I just tried. Hey, I'm just on to pod, honey. Oh, okay. Thank you.

Bye. How old is she? 15. I'm dying that she calls you ante. Because my niece, Valentina, who's 12, calls me auntie. I don't know why. And people think it. it's super weird that I'm like this like 90 year old lady. Yeah. I think it's so cute because it does much older. It does. Yeah. I think it sounds young and cute. Antie Katie. That's what they call me. Oh, but she just calls me Auntie. Yeah, I guess she does too. Like Annie Mae. Yeah. Oh, I see what you're saying. Antie. Antie. I don't know. I think it's cute. I like it, but other people think it's weird. So I'm glad you get called the same thing. Maybe it stems from the Canadianness. There's way too many facts on here, but I feel like none of them are true. I love sushi. It says.

I do. I do. Laundry is my absolute favorite chore. Who wrote? I guarantee. Oh, these are yours, not mine. I'm sorry. I was like, yeah, I do love sushi.

Oh. No, we were making this about me, remember? I'm in a fresh. I'm safe. I forgot. Okay, wait. I do want to know what animal you'd want to be, though. You're a cat, a little, a feral cat.

Like one of those cats that, like, if you Google what cat seems like a dog. Oh, cute. Yeah. I know what you're talking about. That's the one I like. How about you? Um, I don't. I don't know.

Let me see. No, I think, like, I really like elephants. You know, they're just very elegant. They're elegant. They're beautiful. Smart as shit. Really smart. And they're comfortable with their weight.

They use it for their own good. Not dealing with body dysmorphia in that community. Large and in charge. What would yours be? 100% an orca whale. Oh, yeah. Dane. Love a killer whale.

Number one predator of the ocean. Beautiful. Oh, my God. You're so majestic. You're such a predator. You're such a predator. Yeah. Cancel again.

I do have a little pug who I just got, I named him Shamu, a little black pug. And I just, I've always loved orca whales. Yeah. Always. Have you gone up to Canada to like whale watch? It's the most amazing thing in the world. No, but I did go to SeaWorld. Oh, my God.

You mean with the fittest, like, pushed over? Because they're like, because they're miserable. Duck inside a little bowl? Oh, canceled again. I know. I mean, I didn't go last week. This was when I was a kid. Okay.

So your parents are canceled. They are. Yes. And I, but see. It's so crazy because I was the kid that was chosen to give Shammu the little fish at the Shamu show. He, you know, went up into the tank. And anyway, it's sad. But that's where I had my first.

Have you ever seen blackfish? Several times, bawled my eyes out. Devastating. Yeah, devastating. I sent so many like Karen emails after seeing that talking about it. Oh, I was so actually physically sick about it. Yeah. Go on about your experience.

About Loving SeaWorld. No, as a kid, I had fond memories, but as an adult and knowing what goes down there, it's terrible. Yeah. But I do have love for killer whales because of that experience. Well, you should really go up to Canada. I need to do it. And it's phenomenal. You done this before?

Yeah, because when we were growing up, we would go up to, I don't know how far away is from where you grew up, but like, desolation sound is just like around Victoria, Vancouver Island, and we would do it all for like a month every summer. Have you heard of Haidaquay? No. Okay. Hydegui is around, it's like a two-hour helicopter ride from Vancouver past the island, and it's some of the best salmon fishing in the whole world, but the whale watching,

there. I was literally fishing, just catching salmon after salmon, and whales were just breaching out of the water right beside me. It was the wildest thing I've ever seen in my life. And it was on Snapchat back in Snapchat day, so now I can't find that footage. And I remember being like, I can't believe, I just saw that. Like, I'm not going to, that's not going to happen again. And it happened like 10 more times. Because they really like interact with you. Oh, they love it. They're like showing off. Because they like don't know people want to kill them yet. Yeah. Yeah. They're like, because they're trusting and they're sweet. Yeah. It's really cute. It's really dark.

Did you see the second avatar? I didn't. Okay. Just speaking of wailing, that was kind of the premise of the second one. Oh, I heard it was really good. It's so good. I love avatar. I watched it, some shrooms.

It was an incredible experience. That sounds like something like that. Well, you picked a really good animal. Yeah. Yeah, really good. That's a fun fact about Lowe. Last fun fact is that I know this one's true. You're an American actress and writer.

True. I mean, I'm more of a writer than an actress, but yes, true. I tried to be an actress, but it kind of sort of failed. So I switched over to being a writer. I mean, did it? You got to do really cool jobs. Yeah, some, but it was not like, I'm not really acting and stuff I'm not working on, I guess. Like, not writing.

I wouldn't, like, audition for things, you know? Do you love writing? I love writing way more than I like acting. I honestly wasn't a great actress. Oh. So you could have fooled me because I'm easily impressed by acting in general, and I thought you're incredible. I am too, but it's different because, like, on our show barely famous, we wrote it. And so you're writing to your own voice, you know?

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because the contract was going to be up soon. And so we knew when we started our writer's room that there was most likely going to be a strike if they didn't resolve what was going to happen. So we started our room and we knew we had like, I don't know, seven weeks or something before it was going to happen. So we were moving really fast

trying to finish before the strike. And then we didn't even get close to finishing before the strike. And so in some ways the timing of it was like sort of good for me because it was my first time show running a show that was that big. and it was a lot of pressure and we were moving so fast to get everything

kind of came up at the perfect time it was summer I got down on vacation we were moving too quickly in a way that you imagine yourself getting your own show that you've created on Netflix and you have 10 episodes

and Kristen Bell is playing me and I'm like we have all these people Adam Brody's in it and he's so cute and like so excited and then you're just rushing through the day to get it done and I was just thinking

this isn't really I want to do this. I want to be able to take my time. So when the strike happened, it was sort of like a good little pause, but I didn't know we're going to be paused for as long as we have been. Are you allowed to talk about like the show and what it's about and what it will be? Yeah, yeah. I mean, yeah, as long as this isn't considered like a promotion of it, which I don't think it is because it's not even shot yet. Yeah. We're not promoting because we also don't know when it's coming out or what it. Yeah. I want to know the concept. Everything's halted. So yeah. No, nothing's happening at all. So as soon as it strikes over,

we just pick back up in the writer's room and then we'll shoot it sometime. this year hopefully or maybe next year um so the show's called shiksa and a shixa is a girl that is not jewish um and it's sort of like kind of considered like a cute blonde because it's like obviously she's not jewish it's sort of like every jewish mother's nightmare is that her son will marry a shiksa yeah and so um i converted to judaism when i married my husband yes and it sort of just sparked this idea um but in the show she's like has a sex podcast with her sister and is very, like, outspoken, not like on call her daddy level, but like more outspoken than I am. And then the guy she falls for is this, like, young, cute rabbi, Adam Brody.

And so they're sort of, you know, I love that. I'm just matched. I know. It's really cute. That is cute. Does your husband's mother, is still around? She is, yeah. Does she like you?

She likes me. Yeah. She likes me now. Oh, okay. After you converted? Yeah, for converting. I mean, I think that like, no, no, she totally likes me. be a great relationship. But I, and maybe it's just in my head, but I, I, my husband's parents are

immigrants from, um, from Russia and Ukraine and some of their Russian. And so like their other son married a Russian girl, like Russian culture is like very specific. And, you know, I'm not Russian and I wasn't Jewish and I was older than my husband. And so I think it was more just sort of adjusting to someone that was like unexpected and my family's super unconventional and they're really conventional in their family. So I think it's like, you know, I, I don't know if on paper I was a mother's dream, but me converting, like, got me a lot of points. Oh, for sure. A lot of points.

What a fun, like, bringing those two families, those two worlds together. I'd love to be a fly on the wall for that. Yeah. Like a Thanksgiving moment. They all really get along well. Oh, that's great. It's really great. I mean, Jason's family.

His mom is Jewish. His dad is Catholic and his brother's gay. And he was like an athlete growing up. Whoa. Yes. Yes. Jewish and Catholic parents is interesting. Practicing?

Um, no. Um, but you can't really be Catholic, like casually, I feel like Catholic. Catholic, Catholic Catholic is pretty intense. I'm Catholic. You are? Are you practicing? I don't know if you are practicing. I was like, what?

You know what? It's so funny. Catholic guilt. I grew up super Catholic. Yeah. Alter server, the whole nine yards. Oh, yeah. My whole until I was like 18.

Oh. You were an altar to until you're 18? Uh, alter soon until I was, yeah, 17 years old. Wait. Do you mind me asking when you came out? Uh, I never had like an actual. an actual, like, coming out moment. But I think, like, I knew, like, I was down for dick.

I'd say around, like, like, 19, 20 years old. That's kind of later in life. It is later. Yeah. I didn't have my... That's when you were sort of acting on it, or, like, you really had the real thoughts. No, I had a girlfriend. My first gay relationship and even, like, losing my virginity, if you will, with a

dude, was not until I was 20 or 21, yeah. So I'd slept with women and everything before that. And it wasn't, like, a forced thing. No, I enjoyed it. interesting you're not a gold star gay oh no I'm not I know I'm glad that I had that I tried everything for you yeah thank you I'm happy you had that too yeah and at the time because we were like did you get it like how did you get hard like that sort of a thing for a guy like were you attracted but at that time like a gust of wind would give me a boner yeah you know like

yeah you're so young and stupid you know like yeah and so I was just excited and like you're like this must be what sex is yeah I'm hard yeah yes sure and something's working female well you just had a make-out session with a girl the other day like a hot one okay okay so you are not all the way gay but you are super gay but yeah but I think like you said one time was that supposed to be just a private moment between us that I just no I don't I don't mind you guys ever since you posted about her breakup gloves are off yeah no it was just I think it's like an energy thing but by the way like growing up and going to weho and stuff like I'd go with my girlfriends and we'd make

out. It wasn't a thing. You know what I mean? Like, it's just like fun going out type of thing. But did growing up Catholic, like, fuck you up about it because you're definitely like going to hell. Yeah, the shame. Burning in hell. Like, are you good about going to hell right now? You know what? I'm, I'm comfortable with it. I'm going to lean into that. Lean into hell. Yeah. And so, like, it's a joke. My family, they call me the omen. You know, like, Damien Thorn, like the Antichrist. Not that I am, but you know what I mean? Like, it's just a joke because there is such a Catholic guilt. And so for the holidays, Christmas, I have a Godson. I'll be Catholic for the holidays. Am I practicing regularly? Absolutely not. But it's weird. If you're Catholic and it's ingrained in you, it's almost like you always have that little attachment to the church, no matter how removed. And I'm so removed now. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And so it's always kind of there. It's weird. But your parents accept you and are cool with everything. Oh, totally. Well, that's you. Yeah, yeah. And my mom is not necessarily the most. My mom's not necessarily the most Catholic person anyway.

Your dad doesn't even know you're gay. Okay. That's important fact. You've talked about it on this podcast. You've talked about it. Okay, so he accepts you because he thinks you're straight. It's not that he thinks I'm straight. I think he does know.

He doesn't. I always say this. Are your parents together? Yeah, 32 years plus. In L.A. Yeah. They're in Orange County now. But what do you mean?

He doesn't know. So you don't, he doesn't listen to this podcast. No, no. He's not a podcast this story. He's not a Bino. It does listen to my show. I have a podcast as well. Do you post on Instagram things that would signify that you're gay?

He doesn't see Instagram No, he doesn't see I mean he sends me memes and stuff But we talk every day We're really close But down our homies Wait a second Does he ask you about

What's going on in your personal life? Yeah, he thinks we're banging He does He thinks I've been banging Caitlin for a while I don't buy this I think he knows I promise you He doesn't

He genuinely has no idea He thinks I'm Raylan Caitlin No Do you change your like personality When you talk to him? No, I still You know, I'm not like Hey Dad, what's up

You know I don't put you up Maybe you like subconsciously you want to like straighten yourself. I think that, well, because my dad's been asked this by friends that have come over of mine. And I'm like, oh, God, my friends get a couple drinks in them. And they're like, you know, what do you think of your son? You know, he's gay. And so my dad's response to that, which I think is actually very sweet.

He's like, I know he's a creative. I know he's in L.A. He's in the arts. And, you know, they used to say that about like Bowie and Prince and all these different artists. My son's just creative. He kind of looks at me like, he knows I've probably like dabbled in different waters. But I think he just looks at me just like an ultimate artist's free spirit and doesn't even let himself go there. He doesn't ask you?

He's never asked me. He doesn't want to know the answer then. Yeah, I think that he just feels comfortable where we're at. And so do I. Unless I'm going to set. And people, I know the gays, shout out to the gays listening because I know they're going to come for me for this because they're like, like, live your truth. And I'm like, I am living your truth. Yeah.

Yeah, I'm good with this. If I am in a relationship with someone, then of course. Yeah. I'm going to introduce them and be like, dad, this is my partner. And your dad would probably be like, oh. With it. Arts. Artists. He is artistic. You know the arts are. You fuck each other's friends.

Yeah. That's how he looks at it. And so I think it's something that he doesn't want to digest or process yet. But also, I don't know if I'd ever want to talk to my dad about sex. We never had that relationship. It seems like you guys still have a good relationship and your sexuality is just not a factor. It's so not. Which it shouldn't be, I guess. That's the end of the day. It definitely shouldn't be in general. That's why I feel good about it. Yeah. Okay. Well, I support that. Thank you. I support whatever does make you as. long as deep down, there's no. No, there's no, I don't feel like I'm struggling with it or

there's no animosity in our relationship. I mean, I've known you for eight years. I really believe you. Yeah, at this point. And so, no, we're good. And we talk about everything but sex, you know, and we're so an alignment of everything else. Like, we love the same food and movies and all that stuff. And so we have our bond. So it just doesn't have to be a gay one. Okay. Yet. Until I, oh my God. I can't wait. It will be all, this will be my first stop when I drop that bomb on my dad. Or I'm going to do it on the air. Yeah, I think to do it here. Maybe can I be there too? Yeah. See that chair right there?

That's mine. That's yours. Thank you. Bring her in. Yeah. I want to just go backwards a little bit because I do want to support, like, writers and all of, like, the talent and actors. And so, um, I just kind of want to understand a little bit better of what's going on, just for my own. Oh, with the strike.

I feel like my listeners don't understand because I don't understand very much. Because it's not only writers. It's everybody's strike your writer. Yeah. And I'm not going to rely on the internet right now because we know it lies. But I read that 87% of actors earn less than $26,000 per year. And many writers have to work second jobs to make ends meet. So what does everybody, like, how can we support and what do we hope people get out of this?

Well, it is a very complex issue. But I would say, in short, streaming has really changed how we consume TV. And having short seasons has really changed it too. So it used to be that you have a TV show the last, the majority of the year. and now it's like eight to ten episodes. Yeah. So writers get paid on a weekly basis, typically, not on an episodic basis. And so we're being sort of treated like contractors, and you don't have any ownership over

the work that you create. And so it used to be that you write an episode of a TV show and it does really well and they air it all the time. And every time you're at work airs, you're making money off of it. If you write a show that's more successful and it's aired more times, you make more money. And now if you write a show that nobody pays attention to. to, or if you write a show that gets, you know, five Emmys, you don't make more money for that. Right. You don't get made, you don't make more money for it being streamed a bunch of times,

being the number one show. Like, you don't have any ownership in that. And so, you know, you're creating what is being consumed and the platforms are making a lot of money. And, um, it doesn't work. I mean, when I was hiring my writer's room, um, one of the writers almost didn't take the job because he was like, honestly, I can't really make a living this way anymore. I have to work on four different shows a year to make what I used to make on one show. And I have like a kid at home. And I'd rather just go be an executive at a studio or something and just like have a paycheck. So we just want to have, you know, a piece of the pie. I think that makes so much sense. I was talking to Bethany Frankel about this because she started going on a bit of a tangent about

reality. It's like unionized reality stars, right? Yes. And because she was like, well, now they're falling on us to create entertainment, but we've never got a piece of the pie either. And we're just made to look stupid and be there for your entertainment. Not wrong. Yeah, not wrong. We had talked on her podcast about it. And it was so funny because I thought we're just going to recap an episode of Real Housewives. And instead you like, I did not. Yeah. I was like, whoa, I don't know what I'm doing here, but I am championing the cause. I hear what she's saying, but I can't even imagine what's going on with that kind of thing with streaming and people needing to get all these other jobs and it being so is there any progress that's being made yeah I think this last Friday they actually

had a really good meeting and it looks like word on the street is that it'll the strike will be ending sort of September October oh really that's why they push the Emmys to January oh yeah I think it'll be good by then okay oh well that's exciting there's a little light at the end of the tunnel yeah absolutely okay that's great I have a job to come back to so you love that yeah gosh I do love that. Also, I wanted to get into AI just a little bit. Didn't that kind of spark some of this with the strike? There's like AI generated scripts. So like why? I mean, all the writers that I was working with, that wasn't something we were really aware of that much. I would have to say in general until the strike was happening and we kind of realized how much of a threat it was. Maybe there's people who are more paying more attention to it, but certainly in my writers and we weren't like thinking about that until it was sort of drawn, the attention was drawn to it. But it is a real problem. Yeah.

Well, I didn't know about that. I was, in my head, talk, or what I'd read was, it was an article about how they were going to replace actors, like background actors. Supernamaris, is that the proper term? I've never heard of the time. With AI. So if you were background in whatever show, they would take your face. They could use it in anything. They could put you in a Western or whatever.

But basically they have, and they can multiply you and put, you know, a whole group of girls in the back. And so a lot of jobs, it would take a lot of, you know, background acting thing. And a lot of people break into the industry doing that. Oh, yeah. So I mean, I say, oh, yeah, like, I've been there, done that. Michael Jackson could have a song come out. A lot of musicians were coming out about this because you could take their vocals. Totally.

It's amazing what you could do. But it's scary. Also scary. I agree. That is scary. I mean, we were just talking about this before you got here. There's a AI influencer online now who is like 106,000 followers. And.

Well, there was a. that girl Michaela for a long time. Wasn't she the original? There's another one? Michaela. She was like the first AI. Was that this girl that we were talking about? Maybe. I don't know, but there's people doing AI now for money on. Only fans. Only fans.

Which I can get behind that. Yeah, fine. Mila, Mila, Sophia. I don't know. She's the robot. Okay. That's just, I don't know. It freaks me out. So it's her face, but AI body, right? Yeah. To what extent would you be willing to use AI? Because for me, I would do anything. It freaks me out, but I'm like, hey, if I could sell some AI toes and pretend they're mine and make some extra cash, I would consider.

Sure. Yeah. Right? I think that's harmless. If I could, like, send an AI version of myself to a party that I want to go to, that'd be like, tell her to be really socially on point. Yeah. An AI Zoom call? Sure.

Oh, that would be great. Yeah. AI Zoom meeting. AI sex, if you're not in the mood. Oh, this is great. Yeah. Honestly, I support AI. I guess I support it.

I'm really down for that. It's creepy, but I am. Robot life. Except for writing, obviously. W.J. I'm with you. Absolutely not. Okay. Also, your podcast intro. Mm-hmm. Is that your nephew? Yeah, Otto. Okay. That is, I feel like you love being an auntie.

An auntie? Yeah. I honestly really love being an auntie. Do you love it? It's my favorite thing in the world. I love it. I'm, my best friend's son is my godson, too, and I have all my best friends have kids. And so I'm like, Auntie Katie to everyone, or my godson calls me Thawee. because I'm the fairy godmother. It's the best. It really is the best. I mean, that's a great relationship.

It really is. I was with my niece, Josie the other day, Sarah's daughter. And she just, she's like really stressed about me having kids. And she's like, I'm not trying to be not supportive, but like, I just really don't want you to have kids. I don't mean that in a mean way. Oh, she doesn't want you to really think you're going to love them more than you love me. Oh, that's sweet. It's really cute.

Okay. That's very cute. She's so tight with you. Yeah. She's just scared that I'm going to love somebody more than I love her. So I have to talk her off the ledge about it a lot. That's because I know you're open about infertility you're talking about and you've done IVF and are you guys still trying or are you? Yeah, we're kind of always trying.

It's personal. I like, I love this conversation because I'm like in a place where I'm like, I don't know if I'm going to be able to have kids. I have my eggs frozen, but I'm 38, 38, but you froze your eggs already. Yeah, but that's not guarantee either. So I like talking to other women about where their heads out with it and I know a lot of women that listen probably have had the same struggles. I mean, it's a weird thing. Like I didn't meet my husband until I was, I was 35, but I was about to turn 36. And so, you know, the first year of the relationship, you're not really like trying. Right. And I had frozen my eggs three times before I met him. You did? Mm-hmm. Three times. Twice before I met him. And then one time that I was already kind of in the process of that week or that year. Yeah. So I thought I had a really good backup plan too. Yeah. But I didn't. None of them worked. So it was like starting from scratch. And yeah. I mean, it. It's been just like a shitty, it's just hard because you can't control it.

Well, and I feel like there's shame around your body not doing what it's supposed to do. And then the pressure of other people. And then you're like, but wait, maybe you do feel like you're at where you're supposed to be or maybe you don't. Like, there's so many complex feelings to, that goes into the thought of being a mom or having a family or not being able to or trying to. Like, so many different emotions come with that. Oh, yeah. So that's a lot. Even like the pressure sometimes I put on my sisters to let me spend time.

with our kids that I'm like, well, I thought you were going to invite me to that thing. Well, I'll take them to that birthday party. And so I was like, chill out. Just enjoy your Sunday. I'm just like, I can't. I need children in my life. I know. That's so intense.

I know. It's, I mean, you guys obviously live really close to each other. Yeah, we live really close. But my little sister Jordan, who's the mother of Otto. Yeah. She lives in New York, so we don't see them as much. Oh, so he lives in New York. Oh, my gosh.

That's cute. I love, have you heard the, I have it if you want to hear it. It's really cool. It's like a half British accent because his dad's dancing. English. Hi, I'm Otto. Welcome to Alex Salis podcast. Oh, he's so cute. I know.

A little Charlie bit my finger. Yeah, exactly. He's like, oh, he's playing on repeat. I'm like, I'm not at my time. Come on here it again. It's so cute. Yeah. But I do think it's important for, I don't know, for women to talk about it and also for us to

just sort of hear a little bit from each other about, like, how to support each other through it because I really look back feeling shitty, feeling guilty about how I've talked to other people about things that are going on in their life or haven't happened yet now that I'm in that position. Because you just sort of make conversation and you're like, that's what I'm scared of like, why aren't you this or why aren't you married or what's happening or when is this happening? Or like, you guys should try to have kids. And I want to be like, I'll mother fucking kill you right now. I should try to have kids. I'm 40 years old. Do you think I haven't tried to have kids yet? I know what you should try. You should try a surrogate. I was like, thank you

so much for that information. You think I haven't thought of every single thing I could possibly do. Thank you for the unwanted feedback that I didn't ask for. It is hard because sometimes it can come from such a place of just curiosity and innocence and like want to have the conversation. But it's so, I hate you overusing the word triggering. But it's like it hits somewhere inside of you where you're like, this is actually upsetting me. I know. I mean, I don't even realize that in those moments.

It's kind of like saying like, oh my God, you look great. Have you lost weight? Yes. Yeah. I'm on my second round of chemo, bitch. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You don't know what someone's going through.

Don't. So, like, I don't even like discussions around that. Oh, it's so hard. It's true. It's true. And I feel bad even making fun of people who say something because I've been that person. Same. When are you going to get married or like, oh, yeah, when are you going to have kids?

Or sometimes you just don't know what to say socially, so you just say dumb shit and you don't mean to. Or something that, like, I really believe if you have never gone through something, you don't know at all what it's like for the other person. So you're not saying something shitty. It's never been sensitive for you. So you have no idea that that would be sensitive for someone. It's so true. I think it's good, though, that we could all say we're guilty of that, though. Yes.

So there's an understanding in that. Yes. I totally have compassion for people making the mistake because also there's no right thing to say to that person other than like, that must be really tough. I'm sorry. Right. That's it. You know? I mean, I was just reading some article about grief about a parent who lost his children, which is like the unthinkable.

And he was like, please don't tell me my children are in a better place or like God has a plan. I don't want to hear that. And it's so true, and I'm thinking, I don't know, people probably do say that with good intentions, trying to like make it better, but you can't make that better. You cannot. I've asked my girlfriend who lost her dad recently, like, what people could say to her for, and that's what she said. She said, just like, if you're a hugger, hug me and say you're sorry. And that you can't imagine what that feels like or ask if there's anything like. What she really likes is she thinks people get scared to bring him up because they don't want to upset her. And she was like, all I want to talk about is my dad. Like bring up. any little stupid memory like keep his legacy living and then but you're scared to upset anyone and it's just it's a whole confusing thing that's you my little sister like after one of the you know something that had like not worked and I was bummed about it and I was really disappointed and she she texted me and she was like okay I'm going to call you do you want to talk about

it or do you want me to like gossip with you and distract you and I was like I want you to gossip I do not if you have gossip please tell it to me I do not want to talk about this because we can't change it just like I don't want to wall up and, like, you'd be uncomfortable. And so I appreciated being asked. That's such a good point. You want light or you want dark. Yeah.

Because I'll go dark with you. I was like, nope, I don't want it. That's really nice. I love the transparency. You're like that with me. Yeah. I was like, are we going to cry together? She's like, I want to laugh tonight.

I'm like, okay. Yeah. Like, that's the best. He came in and his eyes were all watery and he was like, what do you need? And I was like, I don't. I just got a spray tan and I'm not well. I'm down for some laugh. And it's a slippery slope.

So hand me an edible. Let's have an edible. You're like, I was actually thinking we're going to cry. Yeah. He, like, needed to switch gears, like, so hard and didn't know how. Yeah. Little reboot. It's okay to ask a friend, like, how, what's the best way to support you? I agree. I agree. I don't know why that seems like so hard for people to ask what another person needs, but that's sometimes all you have to do.

Hey, I'm sorry, what can I do for you? But that's also, my girlfriend said, that's a hard question too, because I don't know and I want to be able to say something because I need help. But, like, I don't know, sometimes it just helps, like, writing a handwritten letter to me. I do that if people need. That's sweet. I love because I, and maybe that's me too. Like, that's what I would like. A little handwritten letter.

Just like the effort behind it. Just a little effort, a little thought, a little empathy. I don't know. I love it. By the way, handwritten letters, I love a good cursive moment. I took so much pride in my Catholic school with a little cursive moment. But it's not even a thing in school anymore. I feel like a dinosaur.

You should go. It's so sad. When we go back to my hotel room, you're going to laugh. I was practicing my cursive. You were on the notebook. Yeah. Yeah. I was writing out dirty gin martini.

I thought it looked really pretty. That's so cute. But it's just block letters now for the kids. Cursev is almost like if learning cursive in school for kids today is like learning calligraphy for us. Yeah. Like it's a very like not something people need. Oh, your beard's gone. I know.

I had a tough morning. Well, you just noticed. I hate it. Well, he never had a beard. And then all of a sudden he had a really big beard. And I was like, I really love it. And now it's just gone. I was butching it up.

And then I had a, I used retinol, skin suitical shout out. But anyway, it burned. And then I was like, I had a little like irritation. So I was like, let me shave it down a little. Use the wrong setting. Got rid of my beautiful beard. And I was like, have some of mine.

Thank you. It will grow back. But, um, anyways, thank you so much for being here. Thank you so much for having me. It's always fun talking to you. Yeah, it's so great to see you. Just Canadian little queen. Even I didn't grow up in Canada.

I just don't feel like you have Canadian. Thank you. Canadian maple delight energy. Yes. And tell people where they can go to support you and all of your things that you've got going on. Okay, so you can, a few different things. I'll download the Favorite Daughter app because it's really great. And please sign up for the, like, loyalty program because we like do a lot of events with people who are our best customers. And you can follow me on Instagram at Aaron Foster and follow our podcast, the world's first podcast and listen to it. Yes. What will people, if they tune into your podcasts, what would they, what are they going to take away from it? Uh, that Sarah's a monster.

Okay. And. So it's two sisters being sisters. Yep. Yeah. And then I'm wonderful. Do you guys have guests on your show? Yeah.

Oh, you do. Okay. We do solos a lot, but we do guests as well. That's awesome. You guys have some pretty, like, legit guests on sometimes because you're in business. Yeah. We don't really do a lot of celebrities, honestly. Because I just think.

But you're so accessible now. Thought leaders. Don't you? Yeah. Yeah. That's cool. I love that. Um, well, thank you so much.

and I hope you enjoyed the wine because it's mine. Oh, well, I'm a little buzzed, so it worked. Hey, it's low sugar. I really liked it. Oh, that's important to know. I'm Caitlin Brestow. And I'm Lowe. See you next Tuesday.

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