Off The Vine with Kaitlyn Bristowe - Erin & Sara Foster: Still Barely Famous

Episode Date: May 4, 2021

Erin and Sara Foster join Kailtyn to give their hilarious non-stop sister banter on a whole range of topics for a feel good episode. From reminiscing on their reality parody show "Barely Famous" and the days of being the “crazy” girl, to their passion for being involved in and investing in female run businesses and reinforcing that you can try new things as well as reach new goals at any stage in life. Erin & Sara share some important life lessons they’ve learned among all the comedy of constantly making fun of each other, they reveal some hilarious confessions, talk about their new clothing line Favorite Daughter, and reveal their newest venture...“The World’s First Podcast with Erin & Sara Foster”... because of course, they are reinventing the wheel with this idea ;) You can find Erin & Sara Foster on IG at @erinfoster @sarafoster and @favorite.daughter - give them a follow because it’s all about women supporting women! 1-800 FLOWERS - To order 36 Sorbet Roses for $36, go to 1-800-flowers.com, click the radio icon and enter code VINE. GEICO - Go to geico.com and in 15 minutes you could be saving 15% or more on car insurance. ATHLETIC GREENS - Visit athleticgreens.com/VINE for a free year supply of Vitamin D and 5 free travel packs. PILL CLUB - For every Off the Vine listener who goes to thepillclub.com/vine and becomes a patient, The Pill Club is offering a $10 donation to bedsider.org  FUNCTION OF BEAUTY - Go to functionofbeauty.com/offthevine to take your quiz and save 20% on your first order.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Here's Caitlin. Welcome to Off the Vine. I'm your host, Caitlin Bristow. I am so excited because my guest today are two women. I, well, now I have a crush on them. These sisters are making their mark in television, fashion, and business, and always make us laugh no matter what they have going on. You may know them from their reality TV parody, barely famous,

or as investors and advisors of major companies like Bumble, or perhaps you're already sporting their new clothes. brand called Favorite Daughter, or maybe you just follow them on Instagram and can't stop laughing at their captions, aka that was me all day scrolling. However you know them, you know they seem to have it all going on. Today we learn some of the secrets behind their success. In our conversation, we get into sister business partnerships, starting your own reality show, their new podcast, the world's first podcast with Aaron and Sarah Foster. We get into some confessions where mine turned into be more of a humble brag. You'll see what I mean. And after getting to,

to listen to their venture live and hearing how everything they touch turns to gold. I know their podcast and everything they do is going to be a massive hit. I love these ladies. Hope you enjoy today's podcast with Aaron and Sarah Foster. Hi, how are you? Good. How are you? Hi. I'm so good. Okay, wait. You're so pretty. Oh my God. I literally feel like I just got punched in both eyes because I don't know. Have you ever had a massage? where, like, all the blood rushes to your head or something and you get really puffy? Yes. Yeah, well, it looks good. At least free makeup.

We just, like, didn't even try. What the fuck? Oh, well, that's okay. You're both naturally insane and gorgeous. I think is Sarah on the left in the gray? Yeah. Okay. I don't know if it was you, but I'm having this flashback.

Did I meet you at Justin Anderson's house getting your hair done? Yes. How does you? you did and everybody was like oh my god oh my god and i i thought you were like a model i got to be honest i remember i was like i thought you were no you did yeah i really did i was like she must be a model let me collaborate in modeling i don't think that's a thing we should yeah collaborating and modeling definitely i said yeah that jason doesn't live here anymore i know he lives like that street from me now. So I'm happy about that. Nashville. Yeah. Oh my God. I got married in Nashville and my husband

is in Nashville like once a month and so we're basically going to move there. Oh my God. Do you guys have a place here and you just stay here when you come? No, we he stays at the graduate when he goes. Oh, that's he comes here once a month. Oh, that's, and are you guys both in L.A.? We're both in L.A. Yeah. Wait, so does Justin take you Burnett? It looks really good. He didn't, but I forget where he was when I, I, I've randomly decided to go Burnett like last minute because I've been blonde for like I think six years now and I randomly was like because I got this offer to go back and I'm co-hosting with Tasha for the season of The Bachelorette. And so I was like I want to go back to Burnett. Like last time I was Burnett, I was the Bachelorette. I feel like I just felt like this urge to do it. And so it wasn't Justin, but it was this other guy here Joe, he's amazing as well. But Joe like the guy who did my hair like bows down to Justin. Like, wants to be like him in the hair world. When I look at you, I'm like, oh, I want to be a brunette. Because the truth is when you have light eyes, being a brunette is just so beautiful. Well, thank you. I, if you want to text, Chris, Caitlin about this. Aaron doesn't like,

she wants to stop. I mean, she's like going in deep on like her like roots. Like, no one wants to hear about that. But you guys see DM each other about this. DM, we'll text. Oh, yeah. You live in Nashville because you're a good resource for me to have when I go there with my husband and have A, no friends, B, no people to, like, make me look cute. Don't know where to go. Oh, by the way, Aaron does the thing when he goes to Nashville where she posts on her stories, like, if you see this man, like, spy on him at bars, because he, like, hits up all the bars in Nashville and there's a lot of pretty girls in Nashville.

I don't have girlfriends there, so I need, like, eyes everywhere, you know? Oh, my gosh. I will be your eyes for you. Thank you. I'll send you a detailed photo of what he looks like from, like, with a hat, without a hat, keep your eye out. He's there all the time. Okay. Did you say he's a musician? No, he manages musicians that we mostly live in Nashville. Okay. That's cool. Yeah, there's a lot of those here. I would not marry a musician. That would be what I'm trying to sign up for. Hard past. Yeah. I tried

dating a musician and a hockey player and those were two very bad decisions. Listen, you got to set yourself up to succeed here. You know what I mean? Like if you pick someone with as like an occupational hazard is basically like cheating, you kind of want to. That's not a fair. generalization because I dated and am now with for 15 years, a professional athlete. True. Super hot. When I met him, he was like a huge cheater. I think he overlapped.

Well, I hope his ex-world friends not listen to this podcast. I hope she is. I'm just kidding. I hope she does. I think he's been together for 15 years? Yeah, 15 years. And, you know, people were like, are you crazy? He's like, you know, number eight in the world.

He's so hot. He's traveling all the time. definitely going to cheat on you and you know not that i know of but i don't think he's cheated you never know but i don't know who knows i hate that people say that to you no but he really is a good guy but that's where we that's what we assume right professional athletes traveling all the time we have low expectations at least in my family we know there are there are there are there exceptions to every rule i will i will say the one that i dated was actually such a good human and i still believe to this day he's a good human and and everybody says that about him so i do

think there's a percentage i mean everybody's pretty shitty when it comes down to it like athletes get a bad rep but i would say like 10% of them are really good guys so are you single now no i am now i got engaged off the bachelorette but then we broke up and then i was doing a podcast i was a big a big bachelor person sarah's never seen it at all so i don't know why she's on this podcast with me i have a big a big bachelor person i watched two season i was honestly you and sean i was really happy you chose him fine that you guys broke up but at the time was very happy with your choice well thank you yes i was too i was too um but then it didn't work out and we were together for quite some time obviously but but then um i interviewed jason from becca's season um if i don't

if you remember him he was oh wait is he like from boston he's from buffalo and he had like really slicked back hair finance guy yes wait is that your boyfriend Yes. Honestly, I loved him. He's so cute. Yeah. He's so nice, so cute. And so he was in like finance. And now he's doing, I mean, he's still doing finance. He's just finished writing his first book about finance and he's crushing it. And he's, yeah, so he lives here with me in Nashville. Oh my God. That's so cute. Okay. Well, we're ready to be a couple of friends. Absolutely. Anytime you're here, we love having guests over two. And I have my own wine label and I know you guys like wine. Isn't that true? You don't You sent us to your wine. It was really good. You liked it? Yes. Oh, man. I mean, it's hard for me to say that I don't like wine. You know what I mean? My kids appreciated the scrunchies. Whenever gift, like, comes to the house, I don't even see it. It's gone. It's like the second it arrives, it's gone. And congrats. That's a big thing. Thank you. Oh, so you've already been filming as the host of The Bachelorette.

Yes. Ooh, that's very exciting. I honestly, I have to say that, well, Aaron's a super fan. Let's just get this out of the way. I am a super fan. Let's get this out. But the only problem is that I, I skipped Matt's season, not intentionally, but you know there's some seasons that you, like, you miss the first and second episode and then you just like can't catch up and it like, it's like becomes a really big part of my life. So I have to like really make room for it. Because I don't want to like, if you wait and watch an episode late, then you find out on the internet what happened. And so just got two behind and then I like skip the whole, the whole season. So now I have no idea who Katie is and I have no context for her. Well, you know,

What's interesting is I don't think a lot of people really know who she is because she wasn't there very long, which is interesting. She was just kind of the, she was the girl in the house who was kind of on her own, who was really step, like, trying to stop all the bullying that was going on. She was like the peacemaker and she seemed really cool. And like, she's got like a very, like, she's really unique. Like, she's got this like empowering kind of feeling to her. I think she's going to, I think it'll be really a good season. I don't know anything about you as a person like, you're outside of the show, but, like, Chris Harrison always would stay so neutral on, like, you know, it's like if a girlfriend said, like, who do you like better? I'd be like, oh, this guy's such a loser. He's like, oh, weird, like, his job is, like, pretend and he's fake and he wants to, he's clearly just going to be an actor. Like, I would want to steer a girl in the right direction. Are you, what do you do about that?

Like, I hope that's what we did because it felt like we were able to, like, I kept, I kept saying, I wish I had this on my season to have, like, two girlfriends there. They were like, well, what do you, like, we would sit her down and be like, what do you want to do? Or like, how are you feeling? Like, there's so many times they're probably mad at me because I was like, fuck the cameras. Like, the producers are being so annoying right now. Like, how do you feel?

And so I think she really appreciated that. But then, you know, watching back, I'm going to be very interested to see how it all plays out. And if we look like, we're really not steering her in the right direction. Are there rules where you like can't give your opinion on someone? Well, we don't really know these guys because we don't sit in the control room and watch everything going down. So we are basing our opinion off what she tells us and stories that she tells us because You might be like that guy seems like the best and then behind the scenes you're like he's a full murderer Why did I tell her to be a yeah I might look like a huge bitch who leads her in the wrong direction like no he's great

I don't know we'll support you either way by the way you yours this season will be the first one I watch with you yes oh my gosh good I've never even seen game with drones so I'm not I'm not the have I have I haven't either. And I only keep up, well, now I'll keep up with Bachelor, of course, for podcasting reasons. But I did, I took my, um, a couple of years off myself because I was like, PTSD. Like, I can't watch. It was, it was, it was a lot. But when did you got, you guys had your own reality show. Why? Like, that was so funny. We did. It wasn't a reality show. It was like a scripted comedy. Oh, right. It was so funny. Um, yeah, we really wish that that was still in the air. We really had the best time doing that. Yeah. Really. Really. It was, that was like our jump off, you know, first venture into, like, working together, first thing that we were doing, like, on camera together. And it was just, like, a really special show. And it was just before its time. And it was on the wrong network.

And not enough people found it when it was on the air. And then everyone found it after it had been canceled. And it's, like, one of those frustrating things where we still get messages all the time from people wishing it would go back on the air. But you can't just, like, revive a TV show. You have to, like, kind of start over. And so we're trying to figure out a way to do it without doing the same exact show. Oh, that would be awesome. The concept is just so funny. And I watched that little three minute clip on YouTube and I was dying. I was like, I would be, I'm sure everybody says this to you. I'd be best friends with them. But that's how I genuinely feel.

Thank you. Now back to Off the Vine with Caitlin Bristow. But I wanted to ask right off the bat, if you could both just give a little like who you are just so the listeners can kind of differentiate who's talking. A little background. Sarah, you want to give your voice? Oh, my voice. Okay. This is Sarah.

Oh. I'm 25. I'm looking for a man. You do not sound 25. I, let's see, I have two kids. I have a five and 10 year old. I am, am I listing my credits? Is that what?

Yeah. Like, how would people know you? I mean, I think, you know, I think people probably, like, to Aaron's point, found us from our show. I think that we had no platform. I mean, we were acting. I was on, like, you know, a crazy television show for five years. And Aaron, you know, was an actress and, you know,

wrote on a Ryan Murphy show and whatever. But I think that people really found us from Barely Famous. I think Barely Famous came about at a time when reality TV was just like, so the bubble had not burst whatsoever. And we really wanted to sort of poke fun of it. but not in a mean-spirited way, really in a way where Aaron and I were always the butt of the joke. And so we wrote that together. And we had never worked together before. And that was six years ago. And we wonder every day what we chose to do that. So no turning back. So from there,

from there we just, we became this unintentional, unintentional, like comedic duo, which we never asked to be that we had totally two separate careers and two separate paths. And I never even thought I was funny ever. Well, you weren't for a long time. Yeah. In fact, on the first day of shooting, I was driving to set. You know, it was a scripted show. So our Aaron's manager at the time called.

Still my manager. Still and still mine. And said, oh, my God, day one, this is going to be so great. I can't remember who our guest star was. I think it was Kate Hudson. It would be so great. This is just so exciting. I really think this show is going to work.

There's only, I'm only nervous about one thing. And Aaron's like, oh, what? and he's like Sarah. And I was like, you're on speaker with Sarah right now? He's like, you're on speaker with Sarah. Yeah.

Yeah, it was really brutal. And so, you know, and of course, like, we were already, we were already, it was a, it was, I always forget the word,

not adventurous, but it was a, ambitious tap. You know, we were trying to like do a curb style, curb, you know? And people told us we couldn't do it. So I was already insecure and nervous

that I wasn't a good enough actress, that I'm not funny, that I'm going to forget my lines, that I'm not going to be able to keep up with all the comedic actors. So hearing him say that, I was like, he was just like validating every insecurity you have. Every insecurity I have.

I was like, oh, I can't do this. But it's kind of great to get your biggest fear out of the way, which is like people don't think I can do this. And then it was crazy because it was like the first scene that we shot for the entire series was this scene with Kate Hudson and Sarah. And Sarah and Kate have been friends since high school. But it still was like very intimidating because we're asking her to come on our show. We've never done it before.

and it was the scene where they both show up at the same store to get this bag and Kate was so funny and Sarah killed it. And it was like such a great way to start because it proved to herself that she could do it. We all looked at each other. We were like, oh, this is going to work. Like our weird idea is going to happen and people are going to really love this. And so anyway, I don't know. It's so crazy to just even talking about that. It's amazing how you can really go back to a time and you can really feel those feelings again. Yeah. I would. is dying like i think it made it even more stressful that she is one of our best friends because and she's an academy award winning actress and right so funny and all the things that i remember being like why is this the first scene like what idiot put this schedule together it should not be that like we should have started with like some like loser d list actor or something yeah we should have like this is like a bachelor contestant yeah like this is horrible we're going to get canceled before we can air anyways so our are our i really just segued but that was important you know it just shows like whatever you know you're insecure about or afraid of you know just keep keep forging forward just

keep going so any true loved it it became this like cult classic i got canceled after two years we were on the wrong network you know vh1 does not we're grateful to vh1 because who else was going to give us a show with this weird angle that we had we'd never proven ourselves as you know comedians. So we're grateful to them for that, but they don't know how to, how to, you know, have a comedy. Anyways, so from there, we just became this partnership and it turned into other shows that we did together and branding partnerships and a clothing line and becoming the co-heads of creative at Bumble. And we've started, you know, this crazy new lane of investing for the past few years. And I don't know, if I had a, like someone would have told me five years ago that this is where we would

be at five years later, I would not have believed them. So it's, it's exciting, but it's our time management skills are in need of help. I feel that. Isn't it though, it's interesting how people get their start, like what kind of platform they start on and what they choose to do with it. Like, I feel in my situation, same thing, like thinking five years ago or however many years ago when I got that call to go on The Bachelor, I was one of those people that I was straight up honest about how I was not going there for love. I was like, that's stupid. Like, all these girls falling in love with this guy, like, yeah, right.

And I was like, I'll go for the experience. Like, if I fall in love, that would be incredible. But I'm going for, like, the trips. And to, like. And were you honest on camera? You said that on camera? Yeah, they actually didn't air it. But I was always honest.

I don't remember you saying that, but I would have loved it if you were like, I'm here to go to Thailand. Like, I'm not sure to meet a husband. Like, that doesn't even sound as good as going to Thailand. And it was so stupid because then I freaking drank the Kool-Aid and I was in love after like two days. I was like, I get it now. I love him. Like, such an idiot.

You got the call to be on the back. What were you doing? I was working three different jobs. I was a spin instructor. I was helping open restaurants and training servers at restaurants. And then I worked for a nonprofit organization. And it was so funny because I'm going on the show to like do something bigger. and have all these experiences.

Now, did I fall in love? Yeah, I did twice. But it led me in this path to, I do like this entrepreneurial stuff where I've created a wine label and I have a scrunchie line and all this stuff that I never thought I would be able to do. And I'm like, well, that's so cool that I didn't even know that all my 10 years of working in a restaurant industry, which I friggin, I loved it for a while and then hated it. It actually helped me build this wine brand and feel credible when I went in to make it.

and talk to winemakers and everything because I had the knowledge. But it's just interesting. It's a good reminder. Like, we talk about this a lot that sometimes you get an opportunity that isn't where you want to end up, but it's stepping stone to get to where you're going. And if you do anything well, like you went on to the show and you were authentic. You were yourself. You, like, presented yourself in a way that you were proud of.

And so then you got opportunities out of that that took you to where you wanted to be, even if you didn't picture like the bachelor being where you wanted to end up. And it's like you do something and you do it well and you do it authentically. Like people take notice and you will get the opportunities that you are looking for. I feel like we also talk a lot about the power of no, but there's a real power in yes. And I like always operated from from the place of no, no, no. Even with Barely Famous, when you called and pitched me it, I was like, no, I'm not doing that. Like, that's insane.

Like, what if people think it's a reality? Like, that's crazy. Who's going to write this? We're not funny. I was funny. Well, you were always funny. And I was capable of writing it. Yeah, but you can't have a show with one funny writer.

Like you have, anyways. I disagree. I just think, just me would be great. There have just been so many things over the course of our careers where it would have been so easy to say no. And the instinct was no. I can't do that.

But sometimes you got to just take a leap and figure out the rest later. You know, like it's really important because for the, you know, I mean, don't go. like, you know, take a, don't go be a surgeon. Like, we need you to. Right. There's limits. There's fine. But in most things, like, you just, I'm telling you, you just, you figure it out. And you surprise yourself. I know you probably did on that first episode. It's, it's, it's really interesting. Once you throw yourself in there and you're like, I have no other option, but to at least try this. So many times, nine times out of 10,

you'll surprise yourself of what you're capable of. You have to give yourself an opportunity to rise to an occasion and if you don't ever like test yourself or push yourself out of your comfort zone then you really have you can't grow because you don't know what you're capable of most of us don't think that we could pull off a lot of the things that we actually could it's true you got to like try and you and you learn and move forward and grow either way even if it fails it's a learning curve even if it works you proved yourself you know that you could do it and I just I love that I've always kind of been like that in my life where I'm I wasn't I mean we're all afraid to fail in some way but I was always willing to take these risks

and I always try and tell people that exact same message. Like, you just don't know until you put yourself into the situation whether you're going to fail or thrive, but either way you're going to learn from it. By the way, it's such a huge risk and so terrifying to go on The Bachelor as just a contestant because you don't know if you are going to be there at the end and end up with all the things that you have in your life today

or be the girl that gets sent home the day of, gets too drunk, embarrasses herself, says something that becomes like a meme and you like lose your job and your livelihood. I mean, it's so easy. I almost didn't. I almost did. I thought that was going to be me. And I was like, oh, no, like, this is the end.

And my parents were like, shit. Like, my dad was like, you had one job and it was to not be the drunk girl. And like, here you are. That's amazing. And you won the whole thing. You won the whole thing, right? Well, I, no, I definitely got dumped. He was in the final three.

Yes, I was in the final three. I was in Bali. I got dumped. there. The connections between the final three are usually, like, really intense with all three people. I mean, sometimes you can get a feeling that, like, it's going to go away. But I feel like in your season, it was, wait, who was the guy? Again, I almost remember it was. It was, when I was on, like, as a contestant, it was Chris Souls, the farmer. Oh, yeah. Oh, Chris sold. But by the way, I have to say from someone who has not seen an episode, I'm fully aware

of you, your brand, what you do, who, like, I know about, like, I know about, like, I recognize you and I saw you. I'm aware of you. Like whatever you have really turned it into a business. Yeah. Thank you. About your podcast and it's from someone who doesn't ever even saw The Bachelor. That's cool.

I like hearing that just because I do like to have the separation even though I'm not like I'm proud of that's how I got my start and I'm grateful and I'm so thankful. But I really wanted to do like other things in my life, which I feel like I've, well, it's been six years now and I haven't. I love having a podcast. And you guys, do you have a podcast already? or are you starting one? So we've been recording episodes of our podcast. It's called the world's first podcast. Because no one has one ever existed before.

We're trying to reinvent. We're starting this platform. Yeah. And we just want people to understand what it is because it's so new for people. Right. And so we've recorded a bunch of episodes and it launches May 6th, right? Please listen. Please subscribe.

I will. Like subscribe. Oh, you as well. You as well. I was talking to your listeners, but also you personally. Also me. like subscribe rate review leave a comment do all of the things oh that and is it just going to be like kind of like the sister banter or are you going to talk all things like what is is there a main

we have a lot of really great guests i mean we will always be there fighting with each other but we also have we've got this like really iconic amazing rabbi that we talk about religion with we have like chris jenner on we have a matchmaker relationship expert we're like trying to have a lot of different people and have conversations that they haven't had that many times before so um we want to learn shit we want to have people on yeah just something we can walk away going i'm so inspired by that i want to buy that book i want to listen yeah we're trying to figure out the meaning of life from a lot of different perspectives and i'm telling you podcasting is the way to do that it is the best thing in the world to be able to just zoom or or talk to anyone that has something

interesting to offer you learn from it you have your phone down you're in the conversation like it's truly you always walk away from a podcast even if you don't want to do it at the beginning you always walk away from it feeling like you took something away or you feel good about it yeah yeah we sat together we're like what do we want to know about what do we want to learn about what do we need to so we were like what are we interested in we're interested in fertility we're interested in women's health we're interested in finance we're interested in investing we're interested in relationships the matchmaker like all the things that you know we care about and that we want to learn more about those of the comments have it yeah you should have my boyfriend on he's a freaking

genius with finance like an investing it's like that's like his bread and butter is talking about investments and finance and like he's and so many oh i'll talk about crypto all day so many don't get him started so many women though i get a lot of messages that because of the work that you know we start we got into tech with bumble about four years ago and and that led us on to a path of investing in female founders. And so women are curious about it more than ever now. You know, I didn't ever want to talk about money. Money, I've always been afraid to talk about money.

Like, do I have a dollar? Do I have $5,000? I don't even know because I'm too scared to know. Yeah. The last five years, I've really tried to take ownership of my financial health because it's important. And for whatever reason, a lot of women, a lot of my friends just don't want to know. And it's, it's, it's important.

It is important. I mean, I give all the credit to Jason. It was from, I'm in this whole new world for me where I came from working in a restaurant industry to being on TV to brand deals to doing all this stuff. And he helped me want to know more about it. He helped me like feel empowered by knowing about it and was able to truly change my life with like all of my business side of things just from being like you have to be aware of it. If you're going to do this, you need to know the business side of things. Be on every phone call. like he really helped me have because I think I was the same way I was just scared and I was like well I'm I didn't do good in school I'm not going to know what this is about but just being on phone calls every week and learning and being like present in those conversations has taught me so much and I always give credit to Jason for empowering me to do that yeah I mean I always associated investing with having to be you had to be rich you would be successful to invest like it just felt unattainable for me it felt like well I can't invest because I'm not rich and I don't You have to have a disposable money. Yeah, like I'm understood. I mean, no one told me this. No one. It's like, no, guys, you can take freaking $20 out of every paycheck and put it away and put it in. You know, I'm not going to get into crypto because that would be very irresponsible.

It's a very volatile place to put your money. But I'm just saying in general, there's so many platforms now. There's Robin Hood. There's all these places where you can invest the littlest amount and see returns. And there's so many platforms out there to help. you learn and and figure things out like that like it's it's interesting you're listening to off the vine with kately bristow i have a question because i obviously been in the wine business tell me about wine in a can does it taste just as good oh yeah we love bebbb is an investment we

made like two years ago and um they're killing it and it just like tastes really good i don't know you don't it doesn't take any different in the can but the experience just feels like just an experience i don't know it just feels more fun it's very like it's very like young and like it makes us feel young it makes us feel like we're at like a frat party or something for me it's like i just know that i'm done for me i'm like one gets me that little buzz that i want and i'm good listen one bev i love that you're drinking wine while we're talking so although you're like i'm so what is it it's like let's like four 30 for you that's yeah it's before five which i really respect yeah it's i don't care i always say like it's part of the job it's it should be your own a wine

company uh yeah beth is just it tastes really good and honestly it does um it does get you pretty drunk like i don't know if i'm legally allowed to say that but no i've had it one does make you feel pretty good yeah it has a really high alcohol content and um i'm into consuming less for a better payoff you know well you usually have a lot more than than i do well i don't have great limits you know no I know my limits. I just choose to ignore them. Yeah, I know where they are and then I step right over them and I continue. Yeah.

That is me in a nutshell. Earlier you're talking about, you know, you going into business and show and doing everything with your sister. Where did that all begin? Was that with the show and like, was there a moment that you were like, I want to work with this crazy human that is my sister and because for me, I'm like, I love my sister. I have such a good relationship with her. I don't know if I could go into business with her.

Yeah. I, you know, it started basically, Sarah and I had never even talked about working together. She was an actress and wasn't, wasn't acting in comedies. No, I don't, I like, I wouldn't even be, casting directors wouldn't even see me for comedies. And if they ever would, I would definitely never get the job. And the truth is, I tried to be a actress for a while and I like could not even get, like, a commercial. Like, I couldn't get shit. But you booked every drama.

She was on like, she was on any, like, all the procedural, like, house, CSI. But I was always like a drug addict or a prostitute. She was on every one of those shows. Oh, my gosh. I was near death in basically everyone. You were a prostitutes. And they never asked me to come back. It was one episode, one and done.

I was in the U.S. did kill Misha Barton's character, participated in the death of her. On what show? On the O.C. Oh, really? Her character killed Misha Barton. That's iconic.

Well, I was a part of the killing my boyfriend. Holy crap. I'm actually going back and watching all the O.C. You probably won't recognize me because I have red hair in a different nose. And so I've gone through some. facial changes since then, really just the job and the blonde hair. But it really

difference. So I really hope that most people watch it and like don't see that it's me. Anyway, if only everyone could be as honest about their plastic surgery as Aaron, the world would be a better place. Well, it's just good job. I love it. I'm always so open about

like my Botox and fillers and people are like ew, stop getting so much Botox. And I'm like, never. I love it so much. I love when people are open about it. be more honest about it. It would probably make girls feel better about, you know, the moment where you compare yourself to someone

and that person's lying about what they had done. And you wonder why you have, you know, crow's feet and they don't. Yeah. Because they injected themselves. I mean, there's no shame in, but we should be more honest about it. A, we should be more honest with our girlfriends who start to look crazy.

And be able to tell them like, Sarah and I've had conversations with people where we say, like, you know, you might want to take a couple steps back from the injections because you're going a little too intense. it is hard to say that to a girlfriend but it is the right thing to do it's fully the right and i've had a girlfriend say like maybe wasn't maybe it was a little much a little much under the eyes and then you know you get it taken out because i don't want to look weird or crazy but more importantly my freaking 10 year old daughter who does not have a phone or an ipad but she does she gets

potos she gets but she goes on ticot and she goes on those things and she's literally and my daughter has she's 10 freaking years old and she has said to me like mom like i have i have i have have no lips but that's not for training these girls because she's got normal lips she's got normal lips that any child's supposed to have but you look on tic-tok and everybody has like gigantic like and i'm talking like young girls not like you're a woman you're in your 20s whatever i'm talking about like girls under 18 are completely changing their faces yeah and who i just want to know where the parents are not not there you're 18 yeah i don't know that always, I mean, something I think about daily just because I really want to have kids

soon. And it's a topic that Jason and I talk about all the time and how to navigate just that world of social media where I do get fillers and Botox. And I do use a filter on Instagram, but I'm like still trying to be my authentic self and like acknowledge those things. And it's just so, such a weird world to be in as a parent. I'm sure. I can't obviously relate. I'm like, it's fake, Valentina. It's totally fake. She's like, 10 years old and I'm like, look at her. It's not real. It's not real. She's like, what do you mean, mom? Anyway, we got about off-trap. But Sarah and I working together, we, I quit trying to be an actress because it wasn't working for me. And I became a writer, which is really what I

wanted to do anyway. And then I just really wanted to be a writer. I didn't want to be on camera anymore. I just had like had walked away from that. And well, you can't walk away from something that's not really happening. I left. I walked out of the room and no one had been in the room in the first place. I became a writer and it was really where I wanted to be and I got very lucky that my first staff writing job was on a Ryan Murphy show and it was amazing and a great experience and a challenging experience. Well, first of all, you went away and you wrote a spec script. You didn't just like walk into Ryan Murphy's office. No, I earned the spot. I wrote a script. But you sort of like disappeared and you wrote this script that we all were like, wait, holy shit. You're like an unbelievable

writer. You wrote this? Like who wrote this? Did you really write this? It was an unbelievable script that I have to like brag for you because you won't for yourself. Thank you. And it went around and she, you know, CAA represented her over for and all these things. And she's, you know, it's a big deal. I mean, I've tried to write and it is hard as hell. I can write a scene. I can whatever.

But to write a script with a beginning and an end and move you and make you feel something is really hard. So that's not easy to go like, okay, this isn't working. I'm not getting acting jobs. It's not paying the bills. I'm going to go and I'm going to see if I can do that thing that I kind of want to do, but I don't know if I can do and I'm scared you. And you did it really well. And everyone talked about the script.

And then Ryan Murphy hired her. That's incredible. Better version of the story. Also, to anyone who's listening, I was 30 years old and I got that job. So it's very important to know that like you think that your life is supposed to be like flying perfectly at 30. And that was my first proper writing job. And I was 29 when I got it turned 30 while I was in the writer's room. and it's you know i was working at free people the year before that so it like you have to know

selling clothes to your friends yeah life takes like really you know interesting and challenging twists and turns and that if you you have to like keep pursuing the thing that you want to pursue and not stop because you're embarrassed if i had said like that's so embarrassing i'm 30 years old like i don't want to try to do something new what i'm saying and and and it worked and no one cared like they thought it gave me more life experience to um to have that job and by the way i was like the youngest writer in the room. So you think that you're the old person and you're not. It's just the oldest you've ever been. So it feels that way. But it's not true. And so when that show only went for one season and it got canceled and I was back on like the writing circuit and trying to

pitch a new idea. And at the time, my managers kept being like, you know, everyone keeps calling us pitching us on like let's do a foster sister's reality show. Like when can we get that show? And and we were like, well, we'll never do that show because we just didn't want to do a reality show. Only just because we, not to like dis-on, we love Ria, obviously, but just show our real lives would be insane. Like, our lives are really fucked up

and we can't show people that. By the way, you can love watching reality TV, but not want to be in one. Yeah, totally. It just wasn't right for us. It's different than, it's also different than being on like The Bachelor or something. This would be, like, our family life.

It just didn't work. It just didn't make any sense. It's just not the last that we were on. And so somehow, like in that moment, and we were like, wait, that's so funny to be the, like, the only two people who are trying to, like, avoid being on a reality show. What if you wrote a show about that? Like, about girls who, like, claim that they're, like, too good for reality TV, but they're filming a reality show about that. And just a lot of people who think that they're, like, too good for it. And

it just, it just worked. And so that was the first time I called Sarah. She was in Europe with her husband and kid. And I was like, okay, I have this really weird idea. And just hear me out. I think we should do a show together and she was really freaked out. I was like, who's going to write it? She's like, I'll write it. I don't know. This is not a good idea. Anyway, it was great and we've learned a lot working together, mostly what not to do.

And it's still a work in progress. It is hard working with your sister. We fight all the time. And there are things that she wants to do that I don't want to do and vice versa and you're a team. So, you know, I think it takes a long time to find like your. complementary parts of your personality so that like she can take something that I don't want to do and I take something she doesn't want to do and we pull in the gaps and you know it's

but it's also important to learn and we're both trying I do it better than her to let things go right like let you just fluff your back a little more like when you're at the office and you're in a meeting about something and you say some I mean people can't see you but she's making a face She's making this space that she makes. She's making this space. But sometimes it's like that old saying like, don't sweat the small stuff. It's like, come on. Like you have to, when you're working with family, you have to be really good at just moving

on, letting some stay in the past and tomorrow's a new day. Because if you like hold resentment about every little thing that happens and all the different business entities that we're involved in, like we'll never speak again. Yeah, because you guys are involved in a lot together, right? Like you and you have a, you have another sister that you can. guys are all involved in a new clothing clothing line, which is exciting. Yeah. We decided to just bring in another family

member for one to really to really complicate things. Yeah. Our sister Jordan works with us in favor daughter and it's, I think it's actually more helpful having a third person because you, you know, we get to like, we're at a stalemate all the time.

Like I think this and you think that and like where do we go? Yes. So having a third person that's like, Erin, don't kill me, but Sarah's right. Or like, Sarah sorry, like, I don't see it that way. Well, that doesn't happen. Well, first of all, it's a very one-sided. Aaron, they're a team. They're a team. And if, if I say, like, those genes, no, no, they need be high-waist. Aaron's like, oh, my God, Sarah, you have no idea. And if Jordan says, well, Aaron, they really should be high-waist. Sarah goes, oh, really? Oh, okay. I think you're right

about that. I mean, it's wild. Jordan's just a more rational person. It's easier to agree with her on things, you know? It's wild. I think it's fun. I mean, working because people like the clothes and Jordan's in fashion. So that's actually why she's involved, not because we were like, ooh, let's just bring more family. And that would be a bad idea. It makes sense because she's a stylist and she's far more qualified to be making clothing fashion style choices than we are. So yeah. So it's, it's a new, uh, it's another lane that we're attempting. You guys are in so many lanes. I love it. I just love talking to other women who are just like, I've got this, I've got this. I've done it with my sister. I have kids. Like, you're just,

such powerful women over there. And you're doing so many things and you're doing it well. And I think that's awesome. Well, are we, I always say, I'm like, it's really great. We have so much going on and we have all these businesses and all these things. But are we doing everything like 60%? Like, we're always scared. You know, we have a, we're doing 10 things badly. We're doing 10 things like 30. Like I kind defeats the purpose. And I have to like talk myself off a ledge. I'm like, no, it's okay. You know, everything is going to be fine. But look. you know, time management is important, as I said at the beginning of the, I need to listen to a time management podcast.

Oh, I think we all do. I could definitely use some help there. You're listening to Off the Vine with Caitlin Bristow. Every time my podcast, I make people confess to me. I don't usually have many. confessions because I podcast so often that I'm like, well, I can't embarrass myself like that often. And so I was like, I'll go first because I can really butter you up for yours and you can really laugh at me because I can't believe I even did this or that it came out of my mouth.

But while we were filming, I had like really bad cramps to the point where I was like sick to my stomach. I thought I was going to throw up both ends. I was like in so much pain. I'd move from the tub to the toilet. And I was like, something's off. and so I had to have one of the doctors come up to my room and she was talking to me she made me pee in a cup she was like trying to figure out all these things and then she's like I have to give you a pelvic exam and I was like um like just laying on the bed and she was like you don't have to do obviously she goes but she had a feeling that I maybe had like a ruptured cyst on an ovary and she wanted to like oh yeah that's good oh and I was just like dying and I was like okay whatever I'll do anything. at this point to figure out what it is like I was not okay so she I'm such a loser she went to like go use her fingers in there and she also had to tell me that she doesn't have lube because she wasn't prepared it usually is just swabbing people's noses for COVID tests and I was like okay and I'm like breathing breathing and she

goes and then she goes oh I'm going to have to only use one finger because you're so small And I literally said out loud, I go, I know, that's right. And, like, winked at her. He basically hooked up with her. I took it way too far. You talk about knowing the line and then stepping over it. I literally said, I don't know that's right. And, like, gave it a wink.

And I was like, oh, my God, what am I doing? This is, like, a real humble brag. Like, this is, like, you know, every. I have, I have, I have, that was, she could only use one finger. It was so embarrassing. It's about, like, having, like, a huge vagina after. having two children, actually. I'll get there one day.

My vagina's small tail. And there's lasers for that. Yeah. I haven't done one, but apparently. Okay. I'll get there too. Has a tiny vagina. That's a great thing to have.

Great reputation. Listen, let's just get the information out. You want people to know. And now they're going to. And honestly, we're happy for you. Hopefully there's an article that runs tomorrow with this headline.

Oh, gosh. I've seen some weird ones from this podcast. So who knows? Who knows? You have Brist. has a small vaj. Slow day in the news tomorrow. Good news.

Okay. Now you guys have to share. Okay. It's weird because I was saying... Mine is like not good. But I was saying like I am such, I don't want to call myself a goody two shoes, but I'm truly, truly, I was like, you kind of are a goody two shoes. Like, I've never been promiscuous. I've never like done drugs. Like I've just kind of, I'm sort of boring. I've been with the same guys, you know, 15 years.

But it's like a confession. I was like, oh, I know. I was before I got with Tommy, my partner, I was a full psycho girlfriend. Like I didn't even, I'm like, I didn't think it was that big of a deal. But now looking back, like, if my daughter did the things that I did, I'd commit her. Like it's full psycho. It's like definitely a situation. So I was dating.

I've only had a few boyfriends, but I was dating this guy who was like, you know, a total ladies man, like every girl, whatever. And it was, it was so hard being in this relationship because you're like constantly feeling so insecure. Yeah. And so one night when he fell asleep, I was like, oh, I know what I'm going to do because he was like going on a trip. I was like, I know what I'm going to do. And he charged his phone in the other room. And I went in the bathroom. And I literally sat on the toilet. I locked the door.

And I went in the phone. And I changed the last digit of every single phone number of every girl in his phone. I only, by the way, I think I made it to like R. And then I was like, I have to go to fucking sleep. It's like seven in the morning. But like Lisa, Miami. Shannon. Vegas.

Shannon Cabo. restaurant sushi. Like, I don't want to tell you. It was the craziest shit ever. And I keep, I like, we're still totally friends. And I'm like, oh, I'm going to tell him. And then I'm like, I'm going to tell him. It's fine. It was like 20 years ago. Like, who cares? I'm going to tell him. And then I panic and I'm like, wait, this is like psycho. Like, he might, we might not be friends if I tell him. Or he'll be like, oh my God, I was trying to hook up with Shannon Vegas for so long. And I couldn't understand why I couldn't get her. Oh, no, no. No, no. You don't understand. He definitely, he, this will all make sense to him because he definitely, I'll never say who it is, but he definitely went to

go call like tons of these people and it was like the wrong number. Oh my gosh. That's, okay, sure, it's psycho, but also very time consuming and smart. Yeah, I think that it's actually a great move. But it's really, but I also had like my friends, parents do drive-bys because with another guy, by the way, because like, oh, my, one time I had one of our girlfriends. Oh, this is crazy. She wanted to do a drive-by at an ex-boyfriend's house, and she was like, okay, well, we can't take my car because he'll know it's me driving by, and Sarah drove a black Prius at the time.

So we're like, let's go in Nikki's car. So we go in Nikki's car. We're driving a Nicky's car. We drive by the house. And as we're driving by, we realize that Nikki drives a black Prius. Stop it. The black Prius to not be in her car,

which is a black Prius. And somehow it had never occurred to us that we were in the exact same car that Sarah owned. And it was one of those streets, like, you just know when cars drive by. You just, maybe, you know, the Prius is silent. But listen, anyways, moral of the story is, I was a psycho. You honestly weren't, though. You were just a regular girl. Yeah, because I think we're all like that.

Guys are shady. Guys lie. And when you're in your 20s and you're in the think of it, you have to do some crazy shit. Like, I've sent myself flowers before. Oh, my God. Some other guy, like, said I got sent flowers. Oh, like, it didn't even work. They, like, walked right past them.

Like, they just came up to my dad or something. I was like, oh, I think there's a card here. I signed myself. Maybe that's my congestion. Oh, yeah, that's pretty psycho. It's pretty embarrassing. That's, by the way, stuff like that. That's really psycho.

Listen, I was seeing a little longer than you were. I had more time to explore new creative ways to be crazy. And sometimes you just got to, like, I don't know, find the guy that doesn't make you crazy. Yeah. Yeah. that's that's I thought I was crazy but then once I got with Jason I was like oh no no no just all these other guys made me crazy okay cool yeah there's a there's like a there's like a meme that's like that's

like sorry for acting crazy while you were treating me like shit sorry you you lied and like cheated so like I of course I acted crazy that's a good one guys make you crazy whenever a guy calls a girl crazy you're like what did you do what let's dive into who you are like whenever I friend is like, oh, no, no, we're done. She's totally crazy. I'm like, okay, first, most of the majority of the time, the girl is not crazy. Yeah. Or you are crazy because you've been made to feel crazy.

I mean, how many situations, like, I'm friends today with a girl who I used to think was this crazy chick because a friend of mine had dated her. He's like, oh, she's nuts. And I used to feel like, this girl is crazy. And then, like, today, I now know the real full story. We're like, and she's like, they were like fully dating each other. But then when he was in public with her, he pretended like he didn't. know her and that she was like some like stalker yeah and i used to think she was a stalker too and

she was like yeah we used to like go on trips together and he was like basically my boyfriend but them in front of you guys he'd pretend like he didn't know me well that would make any girl accurate yes she her feelings are validated yeah guys were so i guess that can that be my confession then i sent flowers to myself yeah that's that's pretty funny great i mean i don't know you have so many confessions it's probably best to just leave it at that because you might like i'm like Oh, sure, I need like a part one, two, three. But I'm scary now so I can't admit all the crazy things that I did because then my husband's been like, wait, why are you acting so crazy for those guys?

Yeah, but that's, that's a compliment to him. Yeah, I mean, he thinks I'm crazy too and I don't even think I do anything that crazy. He thinks you're crazy for sure. Yeah. But you know what? You have to find a guy that is into your brand of crazy. And he likes my brand of crazy. Yes, 1,000%.

That is exactly how I feel in this relationship. But I'm like, what a win? Whoa. Is that your dog? What kind of dog do you have? I have two golden retrievers and Pino never, it's so funny. I say he never makes a peep, but really on the last three podcasts, he has, hey, Pino, come here. Come here.

Come here. Are they full size? There. Come here, Pito. Come here. He gets so deep. Come on. Here you go.

Oh, he's so cute. Did you have him since he's a puppy? No, because we rescued. So we have two goldens. And Pino was about one when we got them, but we rescued them from South Korea. They were, like, at a kill shelter. It was the saddest thing in the world. This is the thing where we were trying to get to be that dog Bailey from South Korea.

Yeah. They're the best with kids, these golden retrievers, right? They're the best. They're the cutest puppies. He's such a sweetheart little love bug. I'm going to play the most rapid-fire quick game with you before I let you go. And it's just like a sister's sister more likely, too. Who is more likely? And you have to say your name because some people are going to be like,

okay, but who's that? Yeah, yeah. Who's more likely to go skydiving? Erin, I guess, Aaron, me. You can't. Um, Dine and Dash. Oh, Sarah. Oh, Sarah does not like to pay for them. I just don't like to stay places. Throw something down, but like halfway through the corner and just crunch it. That's hilarious. Where does Sarah go? And I text her and she's like, I'm in bed.

Yeah. We were at a party together 10 minutes ago. That is me. I do that all the time. I'm just like, bye. I'm in bed. I'm home. I'm literally like a value made and I'm asleep.

Okay. Who's more likely to drink at a friend's wedding? I think me probably. Yeah, Aaron. I don't do things like this. Because Sarah doesn't drink, so she's not going to be fun at anyone. I drink. I just don't get wasted.

I have like one drink. Sarah takes a sip of wine. She's like, oh my God, I'm wasted, guys. I wish. You are a loser. get some taller who's more likely to have a secret tattoo oh well sarah has a really embarrassing tattoo it's every cliche if you were like watching a rom-com you'd be like that's too it's you weren't even creative enough butterfly on your lower back basically it's a star on above her butt a multi a multi no it's

turquoise and purple it is a star above her butt it's crazy and my kids are always like oh god Like, that is just so embarrassing. Yeah, it's a really bad one. I mean, it's better than this. I have tear drops on my fingers so I can go, wait. Oh my God. Oh. Wait, that's actually...

That's embarrassing. That's awesome. It's kind of cool. That's kind of badass. No, it's... Thank you, but it's not. It's embarrassing. And when I went to Vegas for one night,

I got questioned at the border because they thought I had to do the gang or like... I was going to say it's very like how many. murders you've done you know yeah i two apparently well anyways uh anyways thank you guys so much for taking the time to podcast with me today and i just feel like people you guys together i mean individually incredible women of course but together so funny i love your sister banter i'm so inspired by you and everything that you take on while being wives and mothers and just you guys are incredible and you're so funny and i just want everybody to know where they can follow you, find you, find your stuff that you've done.

Even if they can go back and watch your show because it's so funny. Oh, okay. Barely Famous is very hard to find it. No, you can find it on Amazon Prime. Oh, never mind. You can find it on Amazon Prime. Very easy. Worth watching. Or iTunes. Or you can buy it on iTunes. You can follow us on Instagram, just our full names, Aaron Foster and Sarah Foster.

Favorite Daughter Instagram would be great if people could follow that. It's really hard to get a brand's Instagram to grow. And then the podcast is called the World's First Podcast with Aaron and Sarah Foster and launch in two days. Please go subscribe. It really will help us. Even if you don't like us, even if you listen to this and you were like, they're annoying. Just still subscribe because we got to support women.

Yeah. You know what? You hate us? Even if you're women, like, let's just support each other. Put us on mute. It's okay. Yeah, literally. Write a comment. I love that. Nobody is going to hate you guys. Everyone I love my listener so much. They're like the most supportive, like, amazing

women ever. So or oh my God, this is other confession. Sorry. Oh, you have another confession? Oh, I'm sorry. I have another one really quick before we go. I passed out the other night. I drank two bottles of wine.

Well, I shared it with Tatia. I drank two bottles of wine and then passed out with crested white strips all my teeth. And I woke up, I woke up and like still to this day, this was like three days ago. If I breathe in like cold air, I'm like, oh, no. Sorry, I know it's like nails on trackboard. Uh-huh. Yeah. It's crazy.

But if it makes you feel better, I've been staring at your teeth. a lot. Oh, really? Yeah, you've great team. Oh, thank you. They're very white. I hope it was a paid partnership because you're advertising very well. I don't buy those. I, damn it, it was a no-name brand white strip. But if anyone wants to work with me. But thank you. And thank you, girls, so much for joining me. And I can't wait to listen to your podcast. Hey, we know a good whitening brand. What is it? Sunlight. What's it called? Spotlight. Apparently, that's the one. And it's like all natural, like, not as many chemicals is most of them. So it wouldn't ruin my teeth like these did.

Yeah. We'll get you over. Okay. I'll go. Swipe up. I'm going with me. Bye. So nice to meet you both.

And we'll exchange numbers and talk about Justin Anderson. Yes. Oh, okay. Great. Yes. Bye. Okay. Bye, you guys.

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