Off The Vine with Kaitlyn Bristowe - G-Eazy | From MySpace to Britney Spears: The Journey Behind the Music!

Episode Date: November 12, 2024

#788. G-Eazy is pulling back the curtain on his remarkable journey to fame, and it’s a ride you won’t want to miss. He reflects on his humble beginnings on MySpace, the pivotal moment he was flown to New York with dreams of a record deal, and the crushing reality of being rejected by every label. But he didn’t give up, and his perseverance led him to collaborate with legends like Britney Spears—a moment he describes as one of the greatest honors of his career. With a world tour on the horizon, G shares what he’s most excited about and drops powerful insights for anyone chasing their dreams. Raw, inspiring, and unmissable—this is G-Eazy like you’ve never heard before! If you’re LOVING this podcast, please follow and leave a rating and review below! PLUS, FOLLOW OUR PODCAST INSTAGRAM HERE! Thank you to our Sponsors! Check out these deals! Boll & Branch: That’s bollandbranch.com for 20% off plus free shipping on your first set of sheets by using promo code Vine20. Nutrafol: For a limited time, Nutrafol is offering our listeners $10 off your first month’s subscription and free shipping when you go to Nutrafol.com and enter the promo code VINE. Progressive: Quote at Progressive.comSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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I always wanted to be a gangster. I'll take any movie quote on this podcast, yeah. Yeah. That's from a movie, by the way. I hope you'll know. It's called Goodfellas. It's a great movie. widely considered Martin Scorsese, Magnum Opus, greatest achievement. Not like, I was the only other, like, hobby before music, because I fell in love with music and I fell in love hard. Yeah. And I still haven't fallen out of love. That's great. Luckily, you know, and it's a beautiful, but also sometimes torturous thing to be in love.

Well, tell me more. Well, you know. In general? Yeah, because, you know, when you care that much about a thing, or a person or, you know, something, you know, something only has the power to hurt you if you care enough about it. That's true. Is it, what is it, the fear of it being gone or taking it home?

Yeah, yeah, and not loving you back. But, like, but ultimately I fell in love with music. I started making beats when I was, like, 14, 15. Started writing raps and what I thought were songs. And I just, like, yeah, I felt hard. Before that, I was in the, I used to write BMX. Oh, really? I can see that.

Yeah. You look like a BMX guy. Do I? I also feel like you like, do you like Halloween? I love Halloween. I love Halloween. Do you have your costume picked out? What are you going to be?

Yeah. Well, if I told you, I have to kill you. Oh, well, I don't want that. No. No, it's not. I don't even know when the podcast will come out. And nor is it that big of a deal. I'm going to be Jerry Potter.

Okay. My name's Gerald. I go by Jerry. Jerry Potter. Yeah. That's like the most underwhelming one. I'm going to be Jack Sparrow and... Oh, you have multiple costumes.

Well, yeah, but Halloween's like my thing. Yeah. I knew it. Yeah. I don't know why... I don't know why I keep looking at you guys either. I don't know what... I just... I love Halloween and I feel like I sniff it out. Sniff it out what other people like it.

Yeah. You know, yeah, and then I'm going to finally be Beetlejuice. I've done like... But the thing is, I love it so much. I've done pretty much everything. I've done Jack Skellington. I've done... I've done...

Two-face, I've done Joker multiple times. I even did Batman during COVID. Yeah. I threw a Halloween party at my house and I was just Batman on the couch. Perfect. His suit is so not ideal for like doing anything. It's like, where's a criminal? You just sat on the couch anyways.

Wait, do you want to know what I'm being? I think this is so clever. I'm going to tell you my past costumes and you can tell me if these are stupid or genius. Okay. One time I was bubble gum under a shoe Like stuck under shoe And I was just an all pink With a converse on my head

That's fine You like that? I love that. Okay And then another time I was like dressed like a cowgirl And like the whole bit Cowboy hat, boots, everything

And then I had like a Jack Queen King Ace on my belt And then I had fake hands Wrapping around grabbing my boobs And I was Texas Hold'em Oh okay, okay Okay, okay What have you heard that one before?

No, no, no, no, I'm not No, I just love your... Like, because there's either the like super clever like approaches to costumes. Yeah. I like your style. Yeah. But this year I'm going to just look like I'm going to do like Joker makeup

and then I'm just going to dress in sheets and I'm going to be a freak in the sheets. Oh wow. You like that? I don't know if I can... You can swear. Yeah. Is that what you're going to ask? I fucking love that. Oh man. Yeah. Hell shit. Yeah. I swear all the time on this bunch.

I'm, no, let's tell it. Good, right? No, like, I like, I quite like your approach. And it's, like, more like, you kind of almost like deadpan, like humor to it. Yeah. And thought, like, as opposed to just, like, meticulous attention to detail and just exacting a costume, which is cool too, like, you know. Sure. But I also like when people have to ask, like, what are you?

And then I say it and they get a good chuckle. Yeah. I like to make people laugh. Okay. Thank you. Ha, ha. And I thought my jokes were bad. Wait, those were really good.

You want to know how I got these scars. See, Batman has showed Gotham, your true colors. I just got goosies. What happened? The balls dropped off. You see, a guy like me. Oh, girl, I forget, though. You're also an actor.

No. Yes, you are. I've just been told that by every ex-girlfriend I've ever been. You should go into acting. But weren't you in a movie with J-Lo? Yeah. Oh. Casual.

Well, it was like, like a little, anyway. How about the Yankees, man? I'm more of a Mets guy. Yeah. Anyways, I want to talk about, you said you like started doing this while you were 14. I just, I just like loved this thing, like, and endlessly loved it and kept chasing it. And if you love something, you want to, like, be around it or do it or like be with it all the time, you know? Yeah.

That's the essence of loving something. And in the case of a passion, like creative music, if you love it and you're doing it for the right reasons, you want to do it all the time, or spend all your available time dedicated to it. And if you dedicate enough time to anything, you would likely improve at it, you know, or, you know, understand it better. I just kept at it and kept at it and even when it wasn't working. And I'd gotten into one school after graduating high school. This college was in New Orleans. And it was one of the only schools with like a music industry studies program. And this is after Katrina.

So I think they were trying to like just take any. But please come to New Orleans. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Rebuild the economy in the city. And I get there and I met two guys who would become my managers of like 15 years. Wow, really? There. Yeah, just like like other kids like in the city like studying the same thing.

and like and we work together and that kind of gave me the confidence of like having a team and it became like a unit and then I just kept at it and then I got a little bit of traction on MySpace with like a song and music video I'd put out that we'd all like you know tried to promote and push and and I remember getting flown out to New York for the first time like meeting with record labels and I'd never been in New York I'd never been in a hotel room I didn't. Oh, wow. Like, I was like, whoa, this is crazy.

You know, I'm about to get signed. I'm like 19. Yeah. And the label's all passed. No. Yeah. And that kind of like feeling of rejection was like, whoa. Yeah.

Because you get defeated. Oh, yeah. I'm like, whoa. Damn. Yeah. It's this thing that I love, man. I don't think it's going to work out. Right.

You're not feeling loved back, which is one of your fears. Yeah. Yeah. But, like, you just, I mean, if you love it enough, you just keep doing it. because you love it, not because you need. Yeah, a lot of people don't have that grit, though, I think, based out of fear to keep going when you love something so much because, again, you just, I think like growing up, I grew up dancing and going to so many auditions and being told no so many times, I'm like, I actually

did give up, which was interesting because I was 26 and I gave up and for, you know, however many years, I just always thought about it every day. It was like crushed my soul every day time and time again. So when I did get that opportunity to go dance again, I was like. Oh, now you're just. I'm like, I have a dancer. Let me at him. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Let me at him. When you just keep going. And so you just, so when was the moment for you where you're like, okay, here we go? You know, you go back to the drawing board. You get back to work. You, you know, you keep doing it. And then it wasn't until like three, four, five years later, I think. Yeah.

Wow. Like, it started to slowly pick up and then I got on a warped tour, you know. And it was like, you know, 30 people in the crowd. I was like, these are 30 people that care enough to watch my set and, you know, hear my music. And then maybe they'll tell, you know, like each one tells their friends or two or three of their friends. And now it's going to be 100 people next time. And then it's going to be 500. Then it's going to be 1,000 and that kind of thing built.

And, you know, I just didn't fall out of love with it. I got better at it and just cared about the craft. And ironically, fast forward, now the ball's rolling. And now there's something going on. And I'm like 22, three, something like four. And I'm living out of a suitcase at this point. I finally graduated high school. And I have like three pairs of black jeans, a leather jacket, and black t-shirts.

And I'm going tour to tour to tour. and just recording an album in the midst of all this, like in hotel rooms or wherever, created this album that would be called These Things Happen. And it was all like ready set to go when the labels came back around and were brighting again. And sitting back in that same like, you know, like the conference room with the bright lights and the big table and the suits.

And I'm like, I told you all I'd be here. This time I want what I want. Yeah. You give me my deal on my terms. That's, I mean, and that comes with, like, the word that I keep saying is grit. And, like, to keep going, I would just watch something, Pamela Anderson was, like, doing this whole thing right now about how she's actually living her truth and her dream right now. And she's like, it took me 20, 30 years to have patience to actually get to where I want to be and, like, learn so many hard lessons along the way of, like, what I thought I should be doing. And have you ever, like, gone outside of your box of, like, to try and be something else to fit into the music industry?

Or have you always stayed true to your authentic self and music? I mean, no, like, we all have to play the game sometimes, you know? And, look, if you want to be the purest and avant-gardeist and, you know, your truth and all that, okay, you must have a trust fund or something. You must say, you know what I mean? Like, good for you, buddy. Yeah, totally. Like, what a privilege. Yeah.

You know, most of us have to, like, like, you know, bend and grind and adapt and know, like, there's, you know, I was having this conversation with an artist yesterday. I flew up to the bay, from, like, to shoot a music video with few artists. Got up, like, at, like, 7 in the morning, flew up, did a video, flew back down for, like, eight hours of tour rehearsal. But while I was up there, having this combo with somebody and, you know, they were like, you know, the industry side is so hard sometimes, man. want to make me what they want to make me i just want to make what i want to make i'm like yeah but everybody works not supposed to be fun every day you think people like to like who work at cvs yeah like have joy every single day they go to work like you have to like work is work you got outside shit going on too yeah yeah yeah and work is work at the end of the day and we all you know

at least you know like most of us have to work in life so you know in our case i think creatively yeah you got to sometimes you get pushed to maybe do some songs or like a certain thing that you don't ideally but that's just like part of the biz part of the biz and you figure out how to like work within that and and stay true to yourself yeah still bring it your own like what tell me about 2016 when you got to work with brittany spears yeah but that was like one of her last biggest performance but how does how did that feel to be in a moment of her career? career because I am a Brittany. Stan.

Yeah. That was an honor. Yeah. Like, big honor. We were on tour in Australia, and this was the first year that I'd, like, hit. Mm-hmm. And I think we played something like 250 shows that year. Wow.

It was tour to tour, to tour, to tour. That's crazy. But it strikes while the iron's hot, you know, the expression, like, I'd been wanting this, you know, since as long as I'd. said you know what I mean so so when you arrive to it you're like don't complain now this is what he asked for buddy you signed up for yeah um and we're in australia and i'm just i'm drained i'm my like whatever social batteries what we call it now you're like can you imagine yeah like you know i've done 250 shows but i've also done 250 meet and greets 250 after parties

250 flights or like you know i mean it's like but you get a call like that and it's like All right, this is one of the most iconic, most important figures in history of popular music, in arguably. And, yeah, like, we had one off day. We found a studio somewhere in Australia, and I wrote it on the spot and did it and sent it to her and she loved it. And getting to, you know, of all, like, stages of the world and platforms, you know, that arguably the house she built, the VMA is like, you know what I mean? I think VMA, at least, like, me, my age and growing up and, like, watching the VMAs in that era and all that, you know, when they, that was the, like, every, you know, September, like, you're watching the VMAs, you know, was a huge too. Oh, yeah. And it was, so to get to perform with her at the VMAs, walk the carpet with her, the whole nine, you know, those are like to pinch yourself moments.

Totally. This is, this is legendary. Yeah, because, I mean, yeah, you're, like you said, she's like, she was the queen of. pop, you know, and an absolute icon legend. I thought that was so cool that you got to do that. Yeah, so in honor. Yeah, absolutely. That was my long-winded way of saying.

It was tight. It was awesome. This is a podcast. I actually appreciate a long-winded answer. Yeah. But if I was just sitting here in sunglasses, like, it was cool. Okay, so you took a bit of a hiatus from music for a bit. So many fans were wondering what was going on and what led to that decision.

Well, I mean, you figure COVID ate three of them. Fair enough. You know, COVID ate like three years. Valid, yeah. Also, like, I mean, COVID was a different experience for almost everyone. Yeah. You know, because you think about different perspectives of like, in my case, per se, like, it was like I'd been going so long and, you know, there's a lot of pressure that comes to this and you get across them to it. But it felt nice to be like, wait, it's not, because I don't cancel things.

I don't not show up for a job. I don't not show up for an interview, no matter what I have going on. Like, I don't, I like, and all of us, because it's just grit, you know what I mean? Like, I don't not show up to a recording session. Regardless if I've had like eight sessions in a road, back to back to back to back to back to back,

each with a different producer. Yeah. Where I'm doing like two or three songs a night with a different, you know what I mean? And I'm exhausted, drained, and I just want a night to myself. I'll still go because, Like, this is an opportunity. This is like, you know, a chance to make something.

And this is what you ask for. Yeah. And it's a blessing and a privilege to get to do this job. Yeah. But deep down, do I wish that there was some way I could say, guys, I can't do it today? Right. I know. Yeah.

Yeah. It's just not, like, something I know how to do or could or can't or like or want to be really. But deep down there's a subconscious part that does. And like, COVID came and it was like, wait, I. I can just off Yeah Yeah

You like had permission to Permission to just And it was like I'd never sat with myself Yeah And you talked about like You know Like solitude

And like Just finding solace And being alone Yeah And recharging And And but it's also like inward like

reflection When you sit with yourself Yeah And in that time You know I got to make The music Because I was in LA

still and like in my house is a recording studio and i got to like you know sit at my piano and like you know write songs there and and try to experiment and do the style of music and and different kinds of ideas that you know maybe if i brought these to my label or you know the producers i was working with it's not like what they were looking for yeah per se yeah but now that it's just me. I'm like, wait, I can just, I can just do this. Yeah. Yeah. I can do what I want. Yeah. It was a freedom. I was just going to say the freedom. God, that's the goal in life is to feel any sort of freedom. Oh my gosh. And we're so like as forward facing like, you know, out there in the public people, you know, and risk of ridicule. Yeah. And, you know, it's like

you jump straight to the comments and it's like everybody has. Do you read the comments? I wish I could tell you that I don't. I know. But, of course, I do. Mm-hmm. You know, and I still f*** up my whole day, but you just got to, again, like, develop that toughness and strength and, like, tools and mechanisms of how you, like, don't let that, you know. Oh, my gosh. I do VMDR therapy around it.

Yeah. You got to block the native. Like I say that, but really, it's like, oh, I know. I know. I do the exact same thing. There's some days where I'm, like, yesterday I was at dinner and I was reading my girlfriend. funny dms that i've gotten and i could laugh so hard this one girl was like i love how confident you are with rocking a double chin and i was like what oh man and i was like holy shit but

these were making me laugh and then other days i like be in the fetal position crying over a comment be like what it just like depends like and the backhanded compliments the backhanded i love how you rock that double chin oh my gosh like i just felt that like you know they um man i would like well and people could say whatever they want about you on the internet and yeah as if that's okay it's it's actually scary like with the whole liam pain from one direction passing i can't believe like human connection that it like enables it makes me sick it actually makes me sick and like to for people to be blaming his like ex-girlfriends and like saying you're next to them because these are not things you'd say all right so you think about human interaction yeah

and communication you know if i don't know a person like or did just take like like a random human being like 99.99% of the time would not have the like like courage barbethal or even like like idea that they could just walk up to an absolute stranger and tell them to their face like you are the reason that he did do you know what I mean or like say anything that I mean so it's like so that's fundamentally how like we would interact as humans you don't you wouldn't say these things. because you're sensitive of like and there's a fear base of like I wouldn't say this to you in front of you because that would be like it's called etiquette at all being a human so but then all of a sudden you have this like mechanism and ability and and thing of like of being able to do it behind this like yeah you know and then and then and that becomes our our main method of communication really yeah that dominates more than physical interaction I'm shocked that there's not more repercussions for the amount and level of bullying that there is online.

Yeah. Like, how is that not, how are police not getting involved? Yeah, because it's a crime to like, like, do that in person, right? Harass. Yeah. So why is it not a crime to do that?

Online. Because, yeah, that's actually really interesting in something to look into. Don't you think so? It needs to be more like. Just repercussions. Yeah. Responsibility. You can't talk to people.

You can't. You can't harass and disrespect and hurt people like that. And you're really like affecting their mental health. health and like imagine you're someone that you loved dies and then you have like hundreds of thousands of crazy one direction fans blaming you and saying you're next like that yeah you'll fuck up your whole life oh my god makes me sick okay what is the craziest rumor you've ever heard about yourself there was um for a while there was like like somebody kept editing my Wikipedia like every because you know anyone can do that yeah freaky like this is some years ago

I think it finally stopped, which is also weird. I mean, our way of, like, gaining information in today's world is so, like, It's like everyone's a professional on TikTok. Yeah, right. Like, we get our news through, like, TikTok and Twitter, like, as if that's, like, credible. Yeah, from someone who just literally is, like, getting it from someone else, from someone else or someone else, yeah. Via a Wikipedia that can be edited by some weirdo who keeps re-editing it every day we fix it. Yeah.

And, and I think they said I was Ukrainian. And for like, this is like six, seven years ago, I think. And I had so many, like, fans coming to me in Grits being like, I'm a Kranian too. I'm like, I hate to let you down. I'm not. Like, sorry. There's somebody who obsessively keeps re-editing my Wikipedia multiple times a day as we've changed it back.

Just to make you seem Ukrainian. I don't know. It was just so bizarre. That is a weird one. I was not expecting that kind of brother. And I had people like identifying with me saying like, you're a hero. You know what I mean? I'm like, I'm like, I take you.

I'm just, I'm not. What are you? But I'm just, what? Oh. I'm like, I mean, I'm from California. Yeah, yeah. I'm super British. Like, you get me, fam.

British. What part of it? Are you from London? Sure. No, you know. I can't do an accent like you. I can't either. You're really good at it.

I'm like. I get tired of me that great out of it or I'm horrible. No, really good, actually. Sometimes I nail it. Sometimes I so don't. Well, I can't do it. The only accent I could do is like 9% of Southern. Southern is the only thing I can do just because I live in Nashville and I picked it up.

But I did my like, what is it? Not 23 of me, the other one. It's kind of brought in here. I put those back on. It's always sunny and Coolville. But I was like hoping I was like at least one percent Italian, but I'm very British and like a teeny tiny bit Native American. I'm a teeny tiny bit Mexican. Are you really?

Yeah. Did you do your test? No. Oh. I just know my great grandma. Mexican. Oh, you know the real way. I met her when I was like three.

Really? I think I kind of remember. Wait, did you, didn't you? I think she was half Mexican. That makes me like. Wait, I'm, am I getting somebody confused? Did you grow up with your grandparents? Yeah, I did.

I did. That story was not edited by Wikipedia. Okay. You never know. I was talking to these girls on my podcast once and I was, we were laughing at because I Googled fun facts about them. And she was like, I don't know where that's coming from. I've never said that in my life.

Yeah, it's crazy. That just goes to show the internet. How information about, you know, but, you know, I had a point I was just like, what's out of your control is out of your control? Yeah. And the more you try to obsessively, like, control it, it's like, it just gets worse. It's just going to stress you out. And it ruins your whole vibe and, like, you're just to become not aligned.

Have it all. I was done with it anyways. It's something like some room temp. It's not room temp. It's not room temp. It's not cold. You don't think so? Wow, the accent just came through one.

Cold. I'm cold. Wait, but I'm actually Canadian. Have you heard that accent come out? Canadian. Canadian. Canadian? Canadian. Canadian? Do you tour in Canada? I've just been able to get back into Canada recently. Oh, congratulations. And caught up on a lot of mistime playing shows in Canada recently. Do you like Canada? Yeah, I like Canada. Canada did not like me for a while. Oh, why? Well, it's a hard country to get into it. If you've ever been in trouble. Yes, it is. It's like a 10-year, like they won't.

Let's let you in for 10 years, isn't it? Something like that. So it's not Canada didn't like you, but the border people didn't like you. Yeah. Yeah. That part, yeah. Where's your favorite place to go on tour? Well, I have enjoyed playing in Canada.

Oh, there you know. Tell me about the new tour coming up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The new tour, I'm so excited to get back out there. Like, the tour was, you know, my life for so long, like I was in. But despite the, like, rigorous, like, schedule and travel and, like, you know, like getting on stage and you know this physically hour and a half jumping around like engaging with like thousands of people you know the like social battery thing of that

emotional battery of like you know pouring your heart out and um doing it night after night yeah it's also like on the flip side it's like you get to do this thing and and and performances are like a victory lap because it's like the music has been released after it's been like Like, you spend hours and weeks and months and, you know, sometimes years, like, like, creating it. And then you do the work to release it. And then it, like, lands with the people who care about it, which is a joy. Like, and then they live with it. And then you get to come back Victory Lab and perform it with them.

Yeah. Staring at you. The people that your music means something to. Isn't that the best feeling in the world? Oh, my God. It's like. Would people sing back your lyrics to you? Are you just like, I'm in heaven?

it's validating but it's also just like emotionally it's not just validating like yeah connection i'm cool it's a connection because everybody in this room has a commonality yeah like we all come from different walks of life yeah we don't know each other but we all share one thing and that one thing is that this music these stories that are being told this this like cultural thing that's happening we all identify with yeah so we have this thread that binds us all together and that's a beautiful thing and and and that's a It's like a, man, it's like a force. And, you know, I just happen to be the guy who wrote it.

I'm just another one of them, like, because we all share something, right? Right. It just happened to be me who, like, put it and had the tools. Because you're the ability, you have the ability. That's all. Right. But, yeah, but that's, like, so incredible because it, I always think music is so beautiful because it could be, you could be singing one thing that means something to you,

but hundreds of people could relate to it in different ways of what they're going through. Yeah. And that is so cool. And to be out on stage and touring. And I, even just on a small platform for me going to do a podcast tour. Well, you're the boss, apple sauce. That's how I'm going to be that on.

Do you have a favorite experience, like, or memory like touring? Or I mean, not like, like, like, like, or like. Yes, I literally couldn't believe that I like sold out a theater and I went crowd surfing with all of my listeners. And it was just one of the best experiences of my life. I was like, so I had had a few drinks. I was in the, I call my listeners vinos. I was in the arms of the vinos, just like free as a bird.

And I was like, this is a cool moment. That's amazing. Yeah, it was really fun. Yeah, being literally like held up, you know what I mean, literally. But also like in a sense of, you know, like metaphorically, you know, lifted up by the people who care about what you do. It's like, okay, yeah, I am special. Like, I am on something. It is a special feeling.

Yeah. Yeah. And you're making other. people feel special and it's just like I love like I just love music is so vulnerable vulnerability creates connection you do that in a crowd of people like the energy that's in that room is you can't beat it no you can't beat it it's just like magic it's it's yeah it's like a like a lightning in a bottle it's just like it happened there and you were in it and it was a togetherness yeah of a current a flow like a wave that we were all on I mean when

I say like hands up and I see you know thousands of hands all and then it's like they're all in unison doing this that's a connectivity and of electricity and in like current that's like we're all in the same wavelength and we all are sharing a similar version of this emotion it's like whether it's like a banger and it's like or it's a sad song that's like lighters up you know what I mean but everyone's feeling and in the moment something close to what we're all feeling and that's a whole bunch of the same like vibrations yeah you know thousand times multiplied all within one room being shared and you're the conductor it's like it's amazing badass that's bad ass wait i have a joke you said your fans are vinos yeah like

wine oh it's like somebody who drinks wine yeah yeah yeah okay but vinoes with a v because it's yeah yeah yeah yeah but okay so in preface i did not write this joke but i like the joke okay um man i'm i'm a rapper who uh i wish i was a comic. Okay. This is your moment. Yeah, man. So when I see a wino eating grapes, I can't help, but man, I walk up, I say, man,

you're rushing the process, man. You got to wait. You get it because grapes turn in wine. You're resting the process. You're a wino, man. I know you're like, wine. Why are you eating the grape? You got to wait, man. Slow down, dude.

I'm glad you're a musician. Wait, I feel like musicians. always want to be athletes and athletes always want to be musicians. And I'm the only one who wants to be a bad comic. Not bad comic. That's a Mitch Hedberg joke and he's one of the greatest comedians of all time. And I love that type of humor. But who is it?

Mitch Hedberg. Oh, okay. I'll have to look it up. Do you want to hear my joke? Yes, please. Okay. Why did the walrus go to the Tupperware party? Say sup.

Supperware. I don't know. Great guess, but no, he wanted to find a tight seal. Wow. You like that? I think both of us have more bright futures than other lines of work. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But like our side hustle can be bad jokes. Bad jokes. Let's start like a duo. Yeah. That was, I was trying to add.

Badjokes.com. Yeah. Where can people... Dad jokes or bad jokes? Dad jokes are bad jokes? Did you say dad jokes or bad jokes? I don't know. I don't remember. I just blacked out. Yeah. Where can people go to find your tour dates? G.Easy.com. Or actually, HTTP, call us slash slash. W-W-W-W-G-E-A-Z-Y.com. Backslash. And are you going to be playing all your new songs on the tour?

Because some people, like, go and they do their old songs and their new songs, but what is... No, I wanted to take it back to the classics and just let's all go down memory lane and kind of like circle back before we launch it. You know? Yeah. Like, but definitely new songs. And my last question is who would be your dream collab and why is it me? Why did you start? I was so, I would even lean in to my punchline got deflated.

I always ruined people's jokes. You? And as I started almost utter, you just jumped in and said that. I'm sorry. That's, I ruined it. My dream collab. Well, I guess we'll just have to wait for the grapes to turn into wine to see. Oh, boy.

Oh, boy. That wasn't funny. It was okay. It was whack. I just kind of panicked. It was okay. Any time I get a question, like, you, like, your dream collaboration or, like, who are you listening to right now? Or, like, you know, like, my brain, do you ever get like that?

Like, you can't think of anyone as soon as a question like that happened. I mean, sometimes you get interviews and they're like, you can do them by email or, you know what I mean? Oh, yeah. But then I kind of overthink in it. It takes too long. I try way too hard. I'm editing and I'm like trying to sell like. And the one subject I was like I didn't get grades and stuff.

I barely like I graduated with a 2.1. Yeah. Through college. I needed a 2.0 to keep my scholarship, a cumulative 2.1. Yeah. But the one class I always did well in was English. And I love language and writing obviously. It's like thing.

It makes sense. But when it comes to that, I just overthink and I can't. But then when you're on this bottle, so you're like, yo like if I just say something, that one little thing, if it comes out. wrong will be the one Instagram snippet that goes, you know what I mean? And it's like where you were probably socially anxious, nervous and panicked and it just said something and it came out wrong. God forbid that you're human. I wish I wore my sunglasses today. I will say that. Yeah, I never do this. Oh, why? I don't know, man. Some people are just natural and cool with sunglasses. Like,

you never do this? Lure sunglasses? Yeah. Oh, what made you do that today? I was bright in here. Oh. Well, that's because it's got, we have to have the good lighting to make me look like I'm not haggard today. Oh, you're not haggard at all. I've, I mean, I got a couple martinis last night, but I was in bed by a reasonable hour. Yeah. Yeah. I'm not judged. I wouldn't think you would. Man, I don't know. All right. Well, thank you so much for coming on the pod. I only judge judges. You only judge judges? Yeah. You know, why would you be judging? Well, sometimes I judge, but I do it quietly in my own head. Yeah. I hope you're not judging me in your head. I'm actually judging you in a great way. Like, I'm like, I like that you were. People don't know that all judgment is not

Negative judgment. No, no, no. Judgment as a word is also like just making a mental, like opinion. Like I really enjoy your hair placement. I think it's, yeah, I think it's nicely placed. Is it? We have similar earrings. I like your earrings.

Thank you. I like the blue on you. Oh, you do? Because I, didn't I say when I walked in here? I was like, oh, I clash so hard with the green couch. I mean, I'm probably sort of black. I am always, I usually wear black, white, and gray. But I'm really trying to switch it up, especially in New York.

Because you live in New York, right? Everyone who is black. And it's a great city in the world and we're all black in. What is that? Great city in the world where I'm, like, wrapping up the... Oh, we can keep going. I'm enjoying this conversation so much. I don't want it to end yet.

But yes, I live in New York and it's the greatest city to we're all black in. It's also the greatest city ever. I mean, ever, period. I love it. What's your favorite thing to do in New York? Walk. Just walk. Walk.

Find coffee shops? Yeah, love... I mean, there's so many. coffee shops there's so many restaurants yeah there's so much diversity it's a cultural kaleidoscope it really is if if like so I lived in Soho for a year right like Soho no Lita and I'd go sit at Jack's wife on Lafayette oh I love Jack's wife oh my god when you sit outside it's the best it's like front row at the theater it's the best because that block of Lafayette you're like like you know what I'm saying like well Italy is here noita's here

Soho's this way Chinatown's over here yeah you know what I'm saying like like like like Tribeca is over there and five eyes down that way, you know what I'm saying? But if you keep going up, you got the East Village, you got Lower East Side over here. It's this kind of like spot. So you got this like like traffic of people watching front road to theater. You know what I'm saying? Sitting on those like, if you eat outside. I get sad when there's not an outside spot there.

Oh my God. Even though I do love sitting at the bar. Like I would go because like, you know, living there like, you know, and I'm like became friends with them. Like I just go like, you know, I'm. starving. Let me just go grab a bite, like, you know, sit at the bar, catch up with the bartenders. Do people bother you? Well, that's the thing about New York. No. Yeah. Because New Yorkers, like I said, I'm walking. I'm city biking everywhere. I'm jumping in a yellow subway. Oh, could you be careful? Oh, I ate shit on the city bike ones.

City bikes scare the shit out of me. Yeah, I was on the e-bike one. Yeah. And I'm busting up six out like to get to like mid-time like to go to a Broadway show. And I'm and I'm busting up sixth. And they had like all the like the food. um like like like uh tents up like yeah yeah like a like like like like thing and his one it was like one tent was making funnel cakes and seven they their grease was leaking oh no that that's how you took a spill and i'm and i'm busting on this the the the the bike city bike you know and those just go fast really fast and i was late to like you know meet um my friends to go to the show so i'm like haul an ass because it was quicker

it to city bike than it was to jump in a yellow or an Uber or even subway because, you know, like so, and I see the grease like, like, flowing. Oh, no. And I'm like, and my tire just, like, one little and I felt myself, and it was almost

in slow my, I felt myself just eating shit. Oh, I hate that. Like falling. Did you hear yourself? Huh? Oh, my God. Yeah. Yeah. Like, like, and I said, I used to ride BMX. Like, I'd, like, I'd broken every bone. But you can't fight grease. I've, like, scars all over my body. but I was like 13 and 14 like your body is different than that.

That's true. I mean, I'm in my 30s. And I feel myself, oh shit, I'm eating shit. I haven't done this in a long time. And I'm like falling. And then there's a ton of e-bikes behind me because all the, like, anytime you postmates or Uber Eats or whatever in New York, they're all on bikes. Yeah.

And they don't give a shit. Huge like things of food and their fast-ass city bikes pile and crash into me. Oh, no. It was a pile of. It was a pile of. And a funnel cake green. grease, e-bikes, and Gerald. And I got the wind knocked out of me.

And I'm like, I thought I was dead. Oh, shit. And you're like, this is how I go. This is how I go. Yeah, there's how I go, slipping on some fun okay grease on a sixth. Did you make it into the show? You got it. Oh.

I called my friends. I was like, hey, man, I don't think I'm going to make it. Just got a bike accident. You're like, you're probably fine. I'm like, I don't think. Oh, no. I was like the wind knocked out of me since I was like 15 oh my gosh wait what's your favorite Broadway show um you know Aladdin is a spectacle straight up so good so wait the golden

bachelorette right now is coming in next and she just got to be in Aladdin and I too got to be in Aladdin on my season of the Bachelorette and I love that musical yeah it's amazing I'm like I hate musicals in general I haven't seen Joker too which is insane because oh that looks That's so good. That's so my shit. Yeah. The fact it's a musical. It's like, uh, another fucking song.

Stop. What are you? What? What? Yeah. Like dialogue and plot. Oh, Seattle. I love a musical.

Yeah. I'm obsessed. But also like, I like going to off Broadway. I like going to comedy shows in New York. I like jazz shows. Like, blue note. Like, there's just the city has so much to offer. So much.

I know. I'm there. I'm actually in New York a lot because I podcast there too. I live in Nashville, but I come to L.A. and New York all the time for podcasting. It's in between. Yeah. is a good in between. I've got land. I've got dogs. It's the best. I got land. I always ask my

guest to, what? I think you were about to say, ask your guests to. Yeah, confess something to me every time. Do you know that this was coming? So I literally almost like, as, because I know that about and as you said, land, it reminded me because I was panicking on the whole way here. I was like, what, what a story? Can I tell it? Yeah. Did I just jog your brain? Yeah. So I was, in Williamsburg. I was dating this girl and I went, you know, to his grocery by her apartment to get some stuff. And I'm like putting things in my little basket like by the fruit. And like, and I, um, a Hasidic Jewish person, like I hear them say like, what land are you from? Oh. And I was like job because they don't usually speak to you at all. Right. You know,

they're like, you try to talk to them. They won't even look at you. Oh. Typically. And there's a lot of Hasidic church people in around Williamburg. Yes, yeah. And I was like caught off guard. I'm like, pardon? And he goes, what land are you from? And I'm like, this land? Oakland?

I don't know. What do you mean? He was like, but what land? And now I'm like really almost like this is like alternative like reality. Like what is going on? Yeah, yeah. I'm like, I was just putting like apples in my little basket like and he's looking up at me like.

I'm an alien, and he's like, but you are so much taller than the others. Oh, really? And I was like, I can't make this up. That's my, like, story to tell you. You're like, one of the most bizarre moments of my life. Interesting. I don't know, recall how it would, what happened after? You just dropped it after that?

I was like. You're like, yeah, I'm just. And then he just walked away and vanished. I don't think he was real. I think that all the time. You have anybody in your life he think could be your imaginary friends? Yeah, of course. I think that guy was a figment of your imagination.

Yeah. Yeah. I think so. Yeah. I think my dog is like actually like a human trapped in a dog's body that is my best friend. Yeah. And also my baby. I say that I birthed him.

I got a few friends that are like so like eccentric and outlandish and just like bizarre and like. And like. Am I reminding you of the? Oh, no, no, no. You're quite amazing. Like, but you don't strike me as like so bizarre as unbelievable to be real. Oh. You know?

Then I'm like, do you have to be my mentioning a friend? There's no way you could be real. Like, but what if you like were like you didn't know and you were like, you know, you're actually like crazy and. I think I'm a little crazy. I'm a little crazy. Yeah. I have some weird thoughts that I don't express out loud.

I think don't we all. That's true. The intrusive ones I keep to myself. Yeah. Well, I don't want to quit this conversation either, but I have to. Yeah. What are you got going on today? Are you done rehearsals for all of your, the tour coming up?

Yeah, done rehearsals. Do you get to have a chill day? Yeah, I'm having a chill day. Nice. I don't often do this enough at all, but I'm going to get it like a massage. Oh, hell yeah. Like a facial. Yes.

You know. Treat yourself. Yeah, like a sauna and a coal plunge and stuff. Oh. Speaking of my language. I have a sauna and coal plunge in my backyard. I do it every day. It's my favorite thing.

It's the best. It's the best. It literally changes my whole day. Yeah. It really does. Can you cold lunch for like four minutes? I'm so good. Five minutes?

I, I only... Can you do like 12? I could if I wanted to. Yeah. I put mine at about 45 and I usually just do three minutes because they say that's all you need to do. Yeah, yeah. But I could... Three minutes.

That man. It's once I get in, I'm chilling. I could be in there for quite a bit. But it's the getting in and getting out that really kills me. It's not tough. Yeah, except, wait, I did this podcast where you had to go in a sauna and every question that they asked, they poured water on the sauna to get hotter and hotter. And I was like, I could do that.

I lasted 17 minutes and I almost threw up. Yeah, that's, I think that's kind of a liability. And it's like, and, you know, and not supposed to like, you know, but. Yeah, I don't think. I'm like, I did an interview where this is like early in my career and there was, we had a fifth of bourbon. Yeah. And every like, it was like a over.

under guessing game, and me and the journalist, like, and say, like, how many followers does Kim Kardashian have? Yeah. You know, whoever's, like, closer between me and him, like, had to take a shot. Oh, damn. And we had to go until the bottle was done. And, like, like, look, and now looking back, I'm like, yo, like, I, I, all, the last thing I remember is, like, the second to third question.

And then I just remember waking up in all my clothes at my Airbnb, like, in New York. I mean, a full bottle of whiskey will do that, too. I mean, splitting it between us, like, obviously. But I'm like, wow, that was not humanly healthy or safe at all. I always wonder how people get away with stuff like that. Yeah. Nor like pouring water on a sauna and being there for 17 minutes. It's like, you know, like the human body has.

Yeah. Yeah. This is so much more comfortable. I'll take these bright lights. If that's the all, all the torture I have to, like go through. Yeah. It's just, and you put on your sonny's. Like, like splitting a bottle of bourbon with somebody.

I mean, I was going to split a bottle of wine with you. But I mean, what happened in journalism? Come on. Was I good? Was I a good interview? You were fantastic and incredible. Thank you. This is one of the most effortless and smooth and amazing conversations I've ever had.

And look at that timing. Come in. I bid you a do. I bid you a do. Bonjour. Bonior's hello. Yeah. I'm Caitlin Bristow.

I'll see you next Tuesday. See you next Tuesday. Thank you.