Off The Vine with Kaitlyn Bristowe - Gia Giudice | Growing Up on Housewives & Joining Next Gen NYC!

Episode Date: June 25, 2026

#957. After spending nearly two decades in the spotlight, Gia Giudice joins Kaitlyn for a candid conversation about growing up on The Real Housewives of New Jersey and navigating life in one of reality TV's most talked-about families.From dealing with tabloids as a teenager to living through some of her family's most public challenges, Gia reflects on the highs, the lows, and how those experiences shaped the person she is today. She also opens up about moving out on her own, why living alone has been unexpectedly healing for her mental health, and the pressure that comes with being the oldest daughter in a family millions of people have watched grow up.Gia shares an update on her relationship with her dad and the ongoing effort to bring him back to the United States, talks about gaining Louie as a stepfather, and reveals why viewers will see a more authentic and open version of her on Season 2 of Next Gen NYC.Plus, details on her new restaurant venture, Il Vero, putting more of her personal life on camera, Bravo hot takes, and a hilarious round of Toast or Roast.If you’re LOVING this podcast, please follow and leave a rating and review below! PLUS, FOLLOW OUR PODCAST INSTAGRAM HERE!Thank you to our Sponsors! Check out these AMAZING deals!ASPCA Pet Insurance: To explore coverage, visit ASPCApetinsurance.com/VINE.Progressive: Visit Progressive.com to see if you can save on car insurance!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This episode of Off the Vine is brought to you by ASPCA Pet Insurance. To explore coverage, visit ASPCA petterance.com slash vine. Progressive, visit Progressive.com to see if you can save on car insurance. You're listening to Off the Vine with Caitlin Bristow. Hey, everybody, welcome to Off the Vine. I'm your host, Caitlin Bristow, and today's guest is someone we've literally, I actually can't believe it. We watched grow up in front of our eyes.

Gia Judice first appeared on the Real Housewives of New Jersey. Now she's 25. She's building a life that's entirely her own. She's moved out of her family's home, launched her podcast, building multiple businesses, and she is a star on Bravo's NextGen, NYC. So we just kind of talk about what it's really like growing up on reality television, what the hype's all about, the highs, the lows, becoming independent for the first time, being the eldest daughter to a family, everyone watched navigate incredibly public highs and lows. Her relationship with her father where it's at now and everything that fans can expect from season two of next gen nyc we play a couple of games it's just a really fun little hour with g so let's get into it i was trying to remember

what because we were both at the jersey shore cast dinner yes l-o-l and uh i was like i think she was drinking red i'm like that we were having an italian dinner so like of course you're drinking red like red at 1230 seems a bit crazy it is a bit aggressive even white might be a bit aggressive 1230 but you know what i used to do every podcast with wine no matter what time really And then I was like, this is a problem. Yeah. And so now, yeah. And then I would, but I would do like five in a day.

So I'd be on like glass number five on my fifth episode. And I was like, I probably shouldn't do this anymore. Yeah, yeah. Anyways, we're going to make this quick and dirty because we don't have as much time as usual. So we are going to just jump right into it. Let's do it. I want to know just like, I'm going to ask a couple questions about your childhood only because how crazy to have your life documented from such a young age, which obviously you don't know any different. How old were you? Were you born on TV or was it like? No, but my sister, Adriana was. She was? Yes. So we started Real House in New Jersey 20 years ago. Yeah. So you're what, 25? I'm 25. So I was five. Yeah. Because I was just talking to my mom yesterday too because she's in the midst of filming Real House in New Jersey right now. Yes. And we were just talking about how long she's actually been in this. And it's been 20 years because obvious there's. There's

on, they're on season 15. Okay. But some off seasons, some seasons, some time periods that were on hold. Right. So all in all, it's been, it's been 19 years. So I want to say I was six. That is wild. Yeah.

So you really don't know any different, but at the same time, like, that's stressful. Was it fun? As, like, from what you remember, is that fun? Or was that like, it was so much fun. Because, I mean, it's every little girl's dream, especially if you're, if you were a girly girl. Yeah. I was into, I was in everything when I was a little kid.

So dance, gymnastics, all the girly things. And I loved it. So having a camera around, I almost like put on a show for them. Yeah, yeah. And then it just became our life and our new norm. And we obviously faced some hardships throughout that. Right. But, you know, I look at everything with life.

There's always good and there's always bad. Always. So with this, I also am. so grateful that I am in this position because it gave me, you know, the chance to dive into this career and to have this opening to a beautiful life, which at 25, I'm so blessed to even say that I've had all the opportunities that I've had. Yeah. So, you know, blessing in disguise, everything has a turnaround. I agree. I mean, there is a point, and I always say this, that after I came off TV the very first time, I didn't know anything else. Like, I didn't understand TV and I was 30,

but I was like bitter at it. And then now looking back, I can be so grateful. At 25, you're already able to look at the past as like with gratitude and that, you know, to me you have thick skin and you're very strong individual. The world sees that too. But like, was there ever a part of you that felt some sort of resentment towards your family for like putting you in that situation? Like was it ever like, I wish we didn't have this. Of course during the bad times. Totally.

Okay, that makes sense. It was really only when obviously when there was stuff in the tabloids and it became like, little overwhelming. Right. I mean, during my parents' legal situation, it was nuts. I mean, I think we, and still even to this day, I don't think we understand the magnitude to what extent of like the world knows who my family is or cares about us. They care a lot. And during that, I mean, there were, there was every single news channel you could imagine parked outside right across from my house. How old were you at this time? This was, I was eighth grade and freshman year of high school. Okay. So, I mean, and my sisters were even younger. Yeah. So it was just, you know, very monumental

years for all of us. It's your childhood. It's as you're growing up. So it was definitely a lot to see that. Yeah. Obviously now seeing the stupid stories here and there doesn't really bother us. But that was rough. Because I feel like tabloids now are so like before I feel like they were pretty truthful. And now I feel like they get out of hand just for clickbait. Have you noticed that over your years in this? For sure. And then when they don't have anything, they'll dig so deep to come up with the most astronomical things.

Yeah. So it's whatever's going to get a click because you have to think about it. You know, also during that time, magazines were still a thing. Yeah. Where obviously, yes, we see our magazines in the grocery stores, but not nearly as often. Well, and it's like you kind of noticed the magazines in the grocery. grocery store and then you would keep moving. But on social media, it's like these people aren't maybe even following you or your family and you'll still come up on the algorithm if it's news.

100% which is crazy. Crazy. It's like even more of the world now knows who you guys are just from media. Social media. Yeah. Which is again, you're right. It's a blessing and a curse. It's a blessing and a curse. Yeah. And then my mom has always said, I guess any press is good press, right? You have to look at it that way. Is that where you think you get your like, do you think it's because you kind of had to build a thick skin? Or do you think you were born with it because of your genetics? I want to say a little bit of both.

Yeah. My parents are extremely tough, but also growing up Italian. It is just in our genetics. You know, it's just that old school mentality as well, even just learning from my grandparents. They never wanted to see us cry. You know, the second we would get hurt or anything,

they would be like, uh-uh, uh, like don't cry so it was always this mentality to like never show weakness that's my family was the opposite my friend was like stop hiding in a corner crying she was like let it out cry it's hard as you can let's say total opposite but it's funny now as obviously the generations have changed and times have changed now my mom is like I you know and she's always been like this just very empathetic but I want to know everything tell me what you're feeling because it's so different now. You don't realize, you know, bottling everything in is also not great because you need to express your feelings and you need to let out. So, you know,

times have changed and things have obviously evolved from what they were. Right. Yeah. Because, I mean, my mom growing up, who she was, didn't even realize half of the mistakes she was making because she was doing her best and she was just so full of love. Now she's, you know, in her 70s looking back and the more, you know, she's on social media and the more she sees articles and how I've spoken on podcasts about certain things in life she's able to be like oh I'm so sorry my mom does the same thing yeah same thing and I'm like there's no need to be sorry oh I'm like yeah thank you for your apology who are so you know well my mom and I are best friends too but yeah I mean well because also being the eldest yes my mom was the strictest with me so I really was raised you know

the Italian way. I wasn't allowed to do anything. I was, it was, I was raised very strict. So did you rebel or were you like, have you always just stayed consistent? No, I obeyed. I was terrified of my parents. Oh my God. In the best way possible, but I want my kids to be scared of me. Oh, they all your kids always have to have a little fear in you and I truly believe in that because if they don't, they're going to walk all over you. Yeah. So I mean, and that's why I always respected my parents. And I even tell my mom to this day, I'm so grateful for the way that you raised me because I am who I am today. Oh, that's sweet. Yeah, me too, mom. Thank you for raising me. Oh, you didn't know. I mean it. She's really the best. She also watches every podcast. So I'm always like,

no, but I love you. I love that. Okay. Let's move on to, you've moved out and you've become your own little independent queen. And then one of the biggest storylines in season two of your Bravo show, next gen NYC is you moving out and really creating a life that's yours, which is so exciting. I feel like that's something a lot of women can relate to because independence always sounds exciting until you're in it. And then you're like, is it lonely? Do you enjoy it? What's the best part? Hardest part, best part. I enjoy it. You do? Oh my gosh. More than I could have ever imagined, honestly. I stayed at home because I have always just been there so much for my, so heavily for my family. I was always there, always their backbone, always there when they needed me. And it was

time. I just, after special forces, I kind of realized that, you're like, I'm tough as shit. Yeah. I was like, I got this and I can handle a lot of shit on my own. Yeah. So, you won, right? Yeah. That's badass. So after that happened, I was like, I'm ready. And, you know, it was about a year ago that I wrapped special forces. That, then it was June. So then going into summer, I had the conversation with my mom, had the conversation with my boyfriend. I was like, I'm ready to move out. So we took the summer. I was touring a million in one apartments, fell in love with my apartment and where I'm at. And it has been such an amazing experience. I obviously am still there if my family ever needs me. It's just a little, you know, a little bit more of a drive. But it's just so nice to come home to

my safe space. It's so calming for me. And I honestly, think it has honestly bettered my mental health so much just being alone like being alone having my peace having you know my little Bella and just like it's perfect it forces you to be alone and I always talk about how when you're alone you're forced to sit with your own thoughts which actually does it may make some people uncomfortable but through that you really learn who you are and I'm sure you your mental health was tested through so many times in your life whether it's special forces or just like being thrown in front of so many people in their opinions. But to just come home, are you, what's your sign?

I'm a capricorn. Oh, I love capricorns. I thought you're going to say cancer. I, my home to me, like, however I make it, this is because I just moved to New York and I'm just like so out of sorts that I don't have a bedroom together yet. My living room is finally together. But it actually affects my mental health because I'm not sleeping properly. It doesn't feel like home.

I'm feeling guilty for my dogs. And it's, I mean, this is all very first world. problems, may I add. Yeah. But no, but it's true. If when you're not comfortable in your own space and when it doesn't feel like home yet, it's hard. But I'm 40.

You're 25. Yes. No, but moving into a new place, you still want everything to feel like together. Yeah. That's why I'm so type A in that sense where leading up to my move, I ordered absolutely everything and tried to plan out my apartment perfectly to a T before moving in. So when I moved in, everything fit perfectly.

literally besides my nightstands. My nightstands were a little big, so I had to order a smaller side. I had to exchange them. But other than that, I mapped out everything perfectly. I was moved in and settled within a week. Oh, wow. That's amazing. I did that at my house in Nashville because I had a house before that, so I got to put everything in there.

But New York, I'm just like, my energy is chaotic in New York. Well, it's always chaotic. But in New York, I'm like, blah. And then my apartment's like, blah. But that's so congratulations. That's a really big deal. I feel like having a, you know, are you, do you have like chic style, expensive style or are you like Amazon all the way? Both.

Both. Yeah, I'm both. Yeah. So, like, I slurge on a couple things. I love that pottery bar and modern style. So my whole apartment is white and neutral tones. Yeah. And so, like, for example, everyone always walks into my apartment and comments my on my rug.

Yeah. And I'm like, my rugs are Amazon. Really? Yeah. Oh, yeah. And they're the washable ones. They're so great. That's great.

Wow. And then what is the thing you miss most about being home? my mom's cooking. Oh, not a bit. You know, and honestly, not even that. Just like being able to come home and sit on the couch with my mom and sisters and just chat. Yeah. You know, and just have that time to just talk because while I was also living home the last year, my two sisters were at school. So it was me, my mom and Adriana.

And we would just, and I loved that because it was me as the oldest and Adriana is the youngest. So and my mom. So it was just so cute to just come home and watch movies and just chat and obviously get closer with my youngest sister, which I'm so close with her already. But just kind of seeing her go through high school. And, you know, and it's weird because I am their older sister, but I also have like such this mom instinct with my sisters. Yeah, you always have.

Always have where I'm like, oh, I feel like I'm missing like moments of Audraana's life right now. And like I'm like, this isn't fair. That is sweet. That is such a like oldest. I'm so jealous when people have their family close by. I'm like what I would give to go home and just watch movies with my sister and my mom like on a weekend every weekend. Oh my gosh. But my sister's in Canada. My mom's in Mexico half the time and then she's in another part of Canada. And we're all just so far apart. But we FaceTime a lot. A lot. Yeah. FaceTime. Thank God for that. Okay. Talk to me about this next season of Next Gen NYC. Okay, for people that don't know what the show is, just give them a little rundown. So NextGen NYC is a show on Bravo based in New York City.

Yeah. But it's about a group of friends in their 20s and one person in their 30s. Oh. Charlie's 30. Oh, okay. But acts like he's 20. Yeah. But he seems like a menace.

You know, love hate. Yeah. You know, you love to love him, hate to hate him. Yeah. Like is what you see on TV what it really is? Oh, yeah. Okay, okay. Yeah, no.

And that is one thing I will say about Charlie. He is, you know, everyone has their soft side. You know, they're sweet, they're, you know, their soft points where they're like, oh, you know, he's a nice guy. Yeah. But now, like, Charlie means what he says. He doesn't care how he says it. No filter.

And that's just who Charlie is. So that's why it's like you either love him or you hate him. Yeah. But also, who is he? Is he like somebody, because is the show? like full of people who's their parents or somebody's depends okay so basically our cast is me brooks marx riley burris ariana beerman all four of us are bravo kids ariana's mom is kim zolsiac from alina riley's mom is candy burris from atlanta brooks marks his mom is meredith marks from

real housewives of salt lake city and my mom is teresa judoist from the real housewives of new jersey got it all four of us have moms on how on house wise on Bravo. So, you know, and there was some discourse about that, you know, having Bravo kids mixed in with other kids because people felt like we, I guess, had an advantage or that. Is it a competition? Like, no, and it never was, especially to us. Yeah. But, you know, then we have another castmate, another cast member who is, she is one of my best friends, Amira to Spain. Okay. She is amazing. She is a beauty icon makeup influencer. gorgeous. And she validated that. You know, she was basically like, no, we needed the Bravo

kids on Next Gen NYC. Like, helps everybody. It's on Bravo. It's bringing attention to the show. You know, people have watched us four grow up. And now seeing us in a new light in our 20s, you know, a lot of viewers love it and are really fascinated by it. Yeah. So are the rest of the kids like you, though, because I feel like if I, if I grew up in now, world, I would do the opposite of what you've done. I would go full rogue and be like a degenerate and then being filmed, it would be like, oh gosh, here goes Caitlin. But I feel like, are other people degenerates on the show? Not in not, not, not Bravo kids. I guess maybe you guys all grew up with cameras here like, don't do that. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, we're, I think we were trained a little bit.

But so Amira, you know, self-made very successful, like did it did that on her own. And then we we have Ava Dash. Her dad is Damon Dash. He was a part of like, you know, Rockefeller Records back in the day in the music industry. She's a model. You know, so she had a well-known father and her mom is Rachel Roy. Oh, I know that name, but I don't know how she's fashion designer. Okay.

So if you know, she's fashion designer and interior designer. I think she's a fashion designer and it's here your designer. But she's also, you know, well known. Then we have Georgia, Georgia McKin, where I really, so Georgia, I'm so sorry if I didn't say your last time. But Georgia, she was not in the influencer space at all. Okay. She is just a true New Yorker. So in season one, there was a scene where, you know, it went kind of viral where she didn't wash her hands after using

the bathroom. And me and Riley were like, what the f- yeah. What are you doing? Yeah. Obviously now, you know, it was viral. It was funny and like that's what she's known for, you know, but season two, hopefully she gets a better, you know, has a better. When does season two come back? It comes, it airs June 24th. Oh, soon. Yep. So then we got Georgia. Then after Georgia, we have Charlie. Okay. Charlie is

trust fund kid. Got it. You know, long story short. Yeah. Maybe he trades some stocks here and there during the day, but trust fun kid. Okay. And then we have Hudson and he is dating Ariana. Hudson also, you know, comes from a family of money, but he is the nicest, sweetest person ever. Him and Ariana make a beautiful couple. His father was the founder, is the founder of Zaxby's. Oh, wow. Yeah. So him and Ariana. I have known each other since they were.

I was my go-to restaurant when I lived in a certain part of Nashville for quite some time. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, that's amazing. So, yeah, and that is, we have a pretty big cast. And then going into season two, we have a couple newbies that were just introduced. We have Rowan Henchy. Her mom is Brooke Shields.

Oh, cool. And then we have Liam. And his mom, you know, Liam was also, Liam is also into filmmaking. Okay. So he's also in the acting world. Yeah. But his mom is the president of Nickelodeon. Oh, cool.

So, yeah. So, you know, we got some twists and some different, you know, vibes. Yeah. And then we also have a Kendall. She was, she's Liam's best friend. Okay. So they went to high school together. And, you know, she's, you know, normal New Yorker works, you know, 9 to 5.

So we got some, you know, we got a little bit of everything. We got some trust fund. We got reality. We got influencers. We have modeling. the whole thing. Basically, I would say, you know, the drama comes up when it comes to obviously forming connections and relationships, some discord in some relationships, and just normal

friend drama. So it's not as intense, obviously, as growing up on the Real House, well, as in New Jersey and just witnessing some of that chaos. But it's more just like real shit in your 20s. watching us grow, watching us evolve, watching us do what we do every day in our lives with our careers. And I think that's what's super fascinating. And that's what I love about it. Because yes, even though a lot of us grew up in the spotlight, it's fun to now have a show demonstrate our work life and what we do.

Because you, any kid who's quote unquote privileged Nipo, is it Nipo baby or NEPO baby? Nepo baby. A lot of people also generalize the show as these are nepo babies. Oh, okay. Well, and sometimes, which is the stereotype could be true sometimes. Sometimes. But a lot of times those people are like, I want to prove myself because I actually work really hard. I know you work really hard. And I know a lot of these people do.

So what are you the most nervous for people to see this season? Honestly, I haven't seen a thing about it yet. Yeah. I love how all the reporters get to watch the episode. before me and all the bloggers. And then I'm sitting there being interviewed, like, so fill me in a little bit because I haven't seen the show.

Honestly, I'm really excited for season two. I would say season one was a little more challenging for me. As much as I am so used to reality TV, I really don't think I went into it with an open heart and like open, just like kind of letting them in. Because, again, being on housewives and, you know, dealing.

being on Housewives with that family aspect. They were really tuning into my family and what was going on with my family and our hardships as a family. So that was already all out there. But now going on to next Gen. NYC, it's more like getting into me and my personal life, my work life, my relationship, and things that I go through. So I was just a little nervous about it, you know, nervous about putting my relationship

on reality TV. And honestly, just every. everything. So season one was a little challenging for me, but then going into season two, I was like, I love what I do. I was like, you know, my podcast casual chaos, you know, all the brand deals that I do and all the amazing brands that I'm like, I want to showcase that. I also want to showcase, you know, my relationship because I'm super proud of it and moving into my apartment and, you know, gaining more of that independence and really just showing some of the struggles that I personally deal with. I was like, I just need to be me. And that's how I went into season two. So I'm really

excited for everyone to see me on season two because I think now you're really going to see who I am. And like, this is me. Rather than season one wasn't really me. It was me just not opening up and honestly, them just not seeing the full version of me. So what do you think people misunderstand about you? Like what was misunderstood on season one that you think you'll come? That I'm like this firecracker that like, you know, likes drama. Oh, okay. Which I'm so not. And, you know, in the most respect to my mom, because everything that she has done on the Real Housewives in New Jersey has made her the most iconic housewife.

So, and she is forever known and people know her from everything. I mean, I don't even watch any of the franchises. who she is. Yeah. Like she's incredible. But it's so funny. When I met you, I didn't know that was your mom. Oh, yeah. I love that. I did not put anything together. And then obviously I'd have done my research. Yeah. Yeah. Oh my gosh. Yeah. She's amazing. No, like she's incredible. But, you know, that was also, you know, how she acted when she was younger and in her 30s. And a lot of these things happened when it was very heightened situations. So a lot of people, you know, when they saw me on season one, stick up for my friends. A lot of people were like, wow, Gia. Like, you're a lot of

a true, loyal, badass friend. And I am until the end. But I think also going into season two, I don't need to put, you know, my two cents in for every little thing. Yeah. It's okay to let my friends kind of take the front seat and deal with their confrontation and their, you know, riffs on the show. Yeah.

And if it's needed, sure, I'll give my opinion. But I don't need to like overdo it in the situation. Yeah. And I mean, that's also. me on a day-to-day basis. I just think it's hard when you have cameras on you, the situation's a little more heightened. You know that at the same time you are filming a reality TV show and you are filming a show that you want people to enjoy and love. So I just think it's also a little bit more pressure. So going into season two, I was like, I'm putting all the walls down. I am just being myself

and I am not not doing that. And so that's just what I did. I mean, you, I feel like even from what I know and looking into this and seeing what people say about you, nobody questions your loyalty. Like you do seem like a ride or die, loyal friend, sister, daughter, everything. Okay, everyone and their dog knows how obsessed I am with my dogs. Pino and Raman are my babies. And if you aren't a pet parent, you might not get it. But if you are, you do get it. They somehow take over your house, your schedule, your camera roll, your bed, honestly, your entire life. And we all wouldn't want it any other way. So today's episode is sponsored by the ASPCA Pet Health Insurance Program. Now, if you've ever owned a pet, you know they run on their own logic. They jump first,

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Yeah, I mean, my dad and I are super close. Yeah, that's so nice. I am just the person they call for everything, whether it's my mom or my dad. We can, with both of them, I could sit on the phone with them all day, and just talk and talk and talk. But I'm extremely close with my dad.

I'm going to visit him in August. Aw. I'm excited. That's because you were advocating so hard for him to obviously come back to the U.S. Is that still something you're hopeful for? Oh, of course. Yeah. Yeah.

I mean, you know, we are in the process right now of filing. Can I have my phone? Because I don't want to mess this up. That's so fair. You probably. It's like the something act. but it's when you're you it's very common for people who have who were deported yeah and what is oh wait I'm going to call Maria too so may she actually issue I please answer in the orthodontist answer answer

she's in the orthodontist but her friend oh okay I don't know I'm just filming a podcast right now what's that act that you said is very common for people that are deported and they file it all the time and that's the act that we're filing for my dad right now or whatever it's it's a It starts with an H. H. Hardship waivers. Okay. Okay. Okay.

Got it. Okay. Thank you. Bye. Yeah. So we're in the process right now of filing a bunch of hardship waivers basically, you know, while because he is there, he misses so much of our lives, whether just every day, day-to-day life of, you know, being a father and fathering us and just being that father figure in our lives and that male figure. in our lives. Like we have missed that so much. My sister, Adriana, barely grew up with a dad. He left when she was six. And then, you know, Melania and Gabriella also were extremely young. Yeah.

So that was always a struggle. He's missed obviously endless birthdays, important things like graduations, proms, driving, just all the things. Like my dad still to this day has never seen me drive because in Bahamas, you have to drive on the opposite side of the road and they drive a little crazy in the Bahamas and I'm just like, I'm all right. Yeah. But it's just little things, you know, sending us off to college, moving us in. I would have loved for him to be there to see my apartment and to see the things that I'm accomplishing.

So we're doing the hardship waivers as well as, you know, parted up a pardon packet and just sending that and emailing that, you know, to the higher ups to see if there's anything that can happen and that can be done. Constantly, you know, constantly. constantly, you know, constantly advocating for it, though, and constantly doing things that, you know, might not do anything, but hopefully we'll do something one day because every day it's a struggle, you know, even when we're going through things and it would just help so much if he was here. I get that.

Like, and obviously your mom remarried, right? She did. Yes. And so, but that's so different. It's not the same. And he's amazing. He's such an amazing stepfather because I know you, you know, people have horror stepfather. father stories. Oh, no, I have the best one in the world. Oh, good. I love that. I love that.

I love that for you. Because some of my girlfriends, you know, they really do, they've had trouble with their stepdad's, but he is the best person ever, like treats us like his own. Right. But, you know, yes, he's not our dad. And it's never will be. And he never will be. And he would never overstep that. But it's, you know, it, and it's hard because it's, it's just everything, you know, the parenting aspect of it on my mom, how it's, It's affected that so much because she's doing it alone. And she wishes for it every day for him to come back just to be here and help her just parent and really be here physically instead of virtually.

Yeah. Did they have an okay relationship? Oh, yeah. My mom and dad grew up together. Yeah. Well, that's kind of like you and your boyfriend. I mean, yeah. That's crazy to build that kind of foundation now to introduce it on season two for your

parents to still have a good relationship after what they've built with their foundation. That's awesome. Yeah. Thank God. You know, and they always kept it good for us, which I think is so important. I feel like every parent should really do that for their kids because it's so, it's so important after divorce. So just try to maintain a relationship because I think that, you know, that affects the kids too. Absolutely.

Yeah. That's really important. I'm going to play two quick games with you. Okay. One is just like a rapid fire question. The second game is called. toast or roast, which we will get to. So rapid fire, quick, most iconic Bravo Leopardy.

My mom. Who is the best villain in Bravo? The best villain. I'm just like basing it off of the shows that I've watched. You know what? I want to say a fun villain, because I just feel like she's just so like, hot and her energy just like snips people. Lala.

Oh, yeah. I love her. Totally. That's a good one. Best Bravo romance. You know, I think my aunt and uncle have a beautiful marriage. That's sweet. Okay.

And do you like partake in the drama of West Wilson and Amanda Batula? Are you like so into that or are you so over it? No, I mean, I'm obviously invested. Yeah. I watched binge Summerhouse. Now I have to watch that recap from last night. Oh, yes. Yes.

Because Amanda, it was so, I love watching Lindsay go off because Lindsay's like, you were winning. You blub your whole life and like you're the other woman. Like you could have, you could have been. She could have had it all. Uh-huh. Could have had it all. She was about to have it all.

Yeah. I mean, now she passed the torch to Sierra and I'm so happy for Sierra. I felt like Sierra never got the hype that she did. deserved because she really is such a beautiful person inside and out. So now that she's getting all this good karma, I'm like, I say that too. Go after it. And also wildly talented. Oh, yeah.

Really good at interviewing. She's funny. She's great host. Just like very like, she's a natural. She is. She is. So that's, I know. And you know what?

I feel don't come after me. I feel a little sorry for Amanda because I think internally she's so, she like sabotages because I don't think she really thinks she deserves happy. and that's sad. I think she doesn't know her self-worth. And, you know, that is an issue, which I think she should have healed from her marriage from Kyle because, listen, I also feel like they should have gotten a little more into Kyle's feelings on the reunion, not disregarding Sierra's at all because obviously the

betrayal there is unforgivable. But also you really betrayed your husband as well. And he's been a class act about it. That's what Lindsay said last. Class act. The fact that we're all forgetting how shitty Kyle was because of what you've done. Yeah. It's wild.

It's wild. Because, listen, Kyle was a shitty husband. They had a horrible marriage. But he's being such a class act about this. And now he's blowing up because of it. Yeah. So it's like Amanda or like this is crazy girl. I know.

And I mean, do you know them, any of them personally? I do. Bravo world, yeah. And I mean, listen, what I've seen of West, obviously prior to all of this going on, he just always seemed like a very friendly person. Totally. Like, listen, I think he could be a totally a fun friend to go out with. And, like, you know, a friend that you want to go out with and have a social life with.

Sure. But, like, you also went from Kyle to now West. Like, you wanted to get a great the friendship for it. Yes. All of it is very bizarre. All of it's bizarre. I just, and now they've released that West Wilson is not coming back to Summerhouse for season 11. Yeah.

Which, I mean, how could you? You're going to be in a house full of people who hate you. I was going to say, not only do I think he was fired, I don't think he'd want to come back regardless because of that. Really curious, though, what he's going to do in his career. Me too. I guess we'll have to stay tuned. I mean, I guess we'll see if him and Amanda's relationship lasts because then he's going to mooch off of Amanda. I don't think it's going to last.

Do you? No. I think she really needs to find herself worth. It's like, what are you doing? Obviously, the relationship with Sierra is never going to be prepared. Never going to be repaired. But it's like, find it in yourself. It's like you look embarrassing.

You look like a wimp. It's like you got to, also, you've been on reality TV for this long. And the comeback can always be better than the setback. You got to go, for sure. Find yourself, not sit there and be like, I did not appreciate how she was on the reunion. I didn't either. You've got to go find yourself, come back and be like, I f***ed up. Holy shit, I got to take a look in the mirror and figure out what I did.

And wow, did I ever do that wrong? I'm going to be better. And I don't care what anybody thinks I'm doing this for me. And I'll just have to prove myself that way. 100%. This episode is brought to you by Progressive Insurance. Now, do you ever think about switching insurance companies to see if you could save on some cash? So Progressive makes it very easy.

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And we're going to decide what deserves like a toast, like yes, or, a roast like this should be roasted um okay calling your pet your child toast or roast toast absolutely i'm not a reach over every time but yes people get so mad at me for it uh okay five minute voice notes instead of texting some people like this toast i don't mind it i fucking hate it you hate voice memos i like a quick voice memo if i'm like oh i don't have time to text i'm driving hit the voice memo. Yes. I mean, I'm also one though that is very guilty of using Siri. I don't use voice memos. I'll talk into Siri. Same. And then also though, I hate texting. I'm a phone call person. Oh, I like that. I love talking on the phone. I can talk on the phone all day. Okay. I like that because I too, I love a phone call. Depends who it is. I like a text. Hate a long voice note. Just a long one, I guess. Okay. Sharing your location with boyfriend and friends. toast. Actually, yeah, I'm into that.

Because I'm like, I'm 40. I'm not doing anything wrong. Well, yeah, I mean, I don't care. Like, people can know where I am. I don't care. What about your red, uh, red receipts on? No. Yeah.

Roast. Yeah. Yeah. Because also, I don't want to hurt anyone's feelings if I don't respond to them. And a lot of times I forget. Like, I'm not like, oh, I hate you. But that's how people take it. It's like responding with a K.

Exactly. I will totally see the message. And sometimes I won't respond. But then other times. I'll look at it and then I'll mark it as unread so that I can get back to it later. Yeah. So it's just, no. I get that too.

I don't want my red receipts on. I'm curious because of your age on this one. Bringing back low-rise jeans. I like it. I'm wearing them right now. Oh, God, but that's because you can. So can you. No, it's not that I can't because I don't have the body.

Sure, I feel great about my body. It's more that I just like, I don't, they don't suit me. They just honestly try. I have end. Do me triosis belly. Do no, no, do me a favor. Try the Amelia Gray frame jeans. Ooh, I do love frame.

Okay. They're these. Okay. They're not too low where it's like, come on. Yeah. But they just sit right below the belly button, and I feel like they're the perfect low rise. Okay. I bought them in every color.

You're going to have to, as soon as this comes out, you've got to link that on your story. I will. Okay. Phone on, do not disturb. Toast. And I don't. I don't want to be bothered. I don't want to be bothered. I love it. And then I like going back and being like, oh, shit, I miss that many texts.

I didn't even phase me. Okay. Using TikTok instead of Google. Like if you want to look something up. Toast. I do it. I know. And honestly, I do TikTok for like food recommendation. Oh, okay, fair. So when I was in Japan, I used it for everything. Best, you know, best sushi spots. Okay. That again, but not like doctor advice. No. I will ask chat Chiwit now. Yes. I know. It's like our new Google. Google was so a millennial of me.

I know because Google, you know, you have to click the link where at least chat like summarizes it for you. And chat has such a personality. They do. I love them. Did you ever watch Bachelor, Bachelorette? I did. Okay. Which do you prefer? Bachelor, Bachelorette. No, okay. Toaster roast Bachelor. Bachelor. You got to toast one and roast one. Bachelor. I will toast Bachelor. Yes. I will roast Bachelor. at. Bachelor's the classic.

Yeah. What about Bachelor in Paradise? I haven't watched those. Using chat GPD as your therapist. Roast. I toast. We are so different. I'm like, my chat will be like,

KB, let me just first say that you are, and your self-awareness for even coming to me for this is so chic. It validates the shit. I mean, honestly, maybe I should. should start going to chat for advice, and I'll get back to you on that. But for right now, I'm like, it's also a computer. Do you do therapy, real therapy? No, but I have.

Okay, okay, okay. Because I was going to say, if you're going to use it as your therapist, it's better than not having a therapist, I guess. For sure. And I mean, I guess it's better than paying like $100 to $300 an hour for a therapist. Yes, absolutely. Okay. And then my last one is staying friends with your ex.

You're never going to just stay friends with your ex. Yeah. I'm trying to, I have quite a few exes, not counting even all 30 of them from The Bachelorette, but like I feel like I have quite a few exes. And like I could maybe text two of them to be like, happy birthday, but I don't. And I feel like that's fine. Happy birthday, but then why? But then why happy birthday? I actually think that's, we'll leave that up to the comments of if you should text your ex, happy birthday. I think it's a hard no for a lot of people. But anyways, okay, season two is coming out. And then what else are we excited for in the future? What's coming up that you're like, I can't wait. I just did a collab with Lucky Honey. I just did a collab with Pilates socks and a wrap top. I'm obsessed. I love working out.

Me too. You do Pilates in the city? I don't. I do it in Hoboken. Oh, okay. Because I live in Jersey City. That makes sense. So I go to Hoboken where they have reformer and heated mat.

And I am obsessed with heated mat. One of my girlfriends just messaged me about a new studio opening somewhere that does both reformer and he did. And it's so, it's so convenient because obviously having a Pilates membership in general is expensive. Yeah. But then finding a place that does it all. Yeah. It's like great. Now I don't need two memberships.

And I could just do both. When we were at the Jersey short cast dinner, you told me you were opening up a restaurant with your mom, which is an Italian restaurant, which makes all the sense in the world. Because I was like, what are you Italian or something? This is when I still didn't know who your mom was by the best. Of course, I knew he was, I didn't put the two to do together. Yeah, no. So I'm actually opening up the restaurant. My mom is just, like, heavily involved when it comes to, like, the interior design and obviously

the menu makeup. Yeah. So it's me and my partner Maria. And we are opening a restaurant in Westwood called Ilvetto, which means the truth. So very, like, we just want to give, you know, put it out there. We're very authentic. This is the real deal. I just saw it yesterday for the first time in, like, a month because of my travels.

And it is insane. the progress that has been made. It is New York City coming to New Jersey. It's giving marquee, but it's also giving like a chic mason clothes vibe. It's so good, so amazing. The interior of it is incredible. I just am so, so, so excited. It's stunning.

When do you plan on opening it? I think we're shooting really for it to be opened early, early. August. Oh, great. We were really shooting for mid-July, but, you know, with construction and a little setbacks, it always happens when you're working on a... It's perfect. Yeah. So yeah, we just found our chef. So we're obviously getting ready to do a tasting and have a private tasting and really see what everybody thinks and really

critique everything. Because we were also talking about it, the biggest thing going to an Italian restaurant, I would never get the meatballs and I never would order their pasta with red sauce because they would. always just sucked. And it just was never like home. So now my mom's got to really be in the kitchen, making sure everything's perfect. Because our meatballs and our red sauce, I'm telling you, it's going to be. If you say that, you don't understand how easy to please.

I love Olive Garden. Okay. What? I'm sorry. I'm Canadian. I'm Canadian. That's your best Italian. Oh my God.

No, that's not my best Italian. Okay. You need to come here. I'm just saying I like it. Like that's how, for me, I can go there. You need to come to Elvado because you're going to never have you. You're never going to eat a better Italian meal in your life. And I truly like I'm now being spoiled, living in New York, I can walk out the front door and be like, wow.

But I am so easily impressed. But then the problem is once I have the best of the best, I get spoiled. It's like going flying first class and then trying to go to the back of the bus. Of course. And you're like, I'm spoiled now. Yeah. That's how I feel about what I'm going to feel like when I go to your restaurant. Oh my God.

I'm so excited for you to come. It's really going to be. It's going to be such a vibe. and we want to make it a space where people are going to also come there for a good time. So after dinner, you're not going to want to leave because it's going to turn into a really cool vibe. And we have everything you could imagine in a restaurant. We have the downstairs dining area, the upstairs lounge, and a rooftop. Oh, damn.

So you've got some property. Yeah, we've got some property. That's all. Oh, congratulations on literally everything. Thank you. I'm so excited for you. And then tell everybody where they can find, I mean, I don't know if your restaurant has like an Instagram that you're going to open. Yeah.

Over Instagram. Yeah. Podcasts, everything. Thank you. Yeah. So you could find it. I'll V-E-R-O. I-L-V-E-R-O.

And then you can follow me on Instagram underscore GiaJudais on TikTok, GiaJudice, X, X, and listen to Casual Chaos, my podcast. Yes. Thank you. So, thank you so much for coming. Thank you. This was so fun. I could sit here and drink wine with you all day. I know.

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