Off The Vine with Kaitlyn Bristowe - Grape Therapy: Aliza Kelly

Episode Date: May 7, 2020

Kaitlyn is joined by host, author and astrologer to the celebs, Aliza Kelly. Aliza answers pressing questions about astrology like how it all works and what Mercury retrograde even is! She reads and discusses Kaitlyn and Jason’s charts and later, busts some myths about astrology. GEICO – Go to geico.com , and in fifteen minutes you could be saving 15% or more on car insurance CALDREA – Get free shipping on orders of $50 or more when you buy online at Caldrea.com See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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My guest today is the resident astrologer at Cosmopolitan Magazine and contributes to many other publications, including Allure and BuzzFeed. Her video series, Star Chart, involves intimate interviews with some of our favorite celebrities and her podcast, Stars Like Us, is one part pop culture, one part astrology. She is also the author of two books, including her most recent, Star Trek. starring you today she's going to answer some of my most pressing astrology questions like who am i even according to the stars so excited to talk to her today please welcome to the podcast eliza kelly is that how you say is that how you pronounce your name yes beautiful you did oh my gosh

you have my dream job i'm just not qualified um nor do i have the knowledge to do so so um can't wait to talk to you today and and get into this but um what you do is just so fascinating to me I've always just been really interested in astrology and all the like, like things that can back it. Like when you, when people don't believe in it, I'm like, how, how do you not believe in it? It's literal like science and you can just prove things. And I just want to know how you got into your current career in the first place. Was this something that you always loved doing? Well, I think for me, it seemed, for me, this seems surprising still.

Like, I can't believe that I am a professional astrologer. Like that, if, to me, this is like, I, it's like, wow, what a crazy turn my life took in, you know, my mid-20s to bring me to this point now. But according to everyone else who has known me for a really long time, this was, like, very expected. Really? Yeah. So I guess I didn't see that I was moving in this direction. I thought that I was just, you know, living a normal life going. I was planning on being like a bossy art dealer.

I was working in art galleries. I had this whole vision of myself, like, you know, selling art to in Miami to high profile, celebrity clients. And then everything just started changing. And I guess it seems very organic for everyone else. But to me, it was a cataclysmic shift. it was something really crazy that happened so what what was the shift like what made you drop everything go for that well that's all i also don't really know that's also kind of part of the weird thing and

it was in i had just moved to los angeles so i feel like we could always blame los angeles for any sort of like mystical spiritual breakthrough anyone has but i had just moved to l.a and i was 23 and i was single and i was like disillusioned by everything and I had just, the Tinder basically had just started. So I was on Tinder, meeting these horrific guys. And my friend and I from college, I, you know, I basically just graduated at that point, we're saying, like, wouldn't it be so great if we could just match with people based on what we're astrologically compatible with?

Like, why am I wasting time with all of these losers? Turns out it wasn't about the astrology at all. I just had horrible taste in men when I was 23, but. Did not know that in the moment. And yeah, in some sort of like strange, like blind optimism, my friend from college became my business partner and we started an astrology dating app. And at that time, when I was starting a line, I was not an astrologer. I didn't identify as an astrologer.

I hadn't studied it. I just thought it was really cool. I knew that people loved it. and I thought it would make a really good app. But as the business continued and I was creating more content for it and I was working with astrologers, I started to realize that that was actually where my heart was as opposed to like trying to be like Mark Zuckerberg business, startup, technology entrepreneur, like that was not my vibe in the slightest, but what I did love was working with astrology.

So when my business closed, when we, when we ended that in 2016, I basically decided to start really investing in astrology and started working with the astrologers who had been consulting for the app as my mentors and my teachers. And from there, I started to build a business for myself as an astrologer. So it's been now almost seven years that I've been working with astrology, either as with the content or as a practicing astrologer myself, Obama era and Trump era. And it's very different. And yeah, I love it so much. And you must get to work with some pretty cool people. So who are some of the coolest people that you remember or, you know, maybe most starstruck by? No pun intended, huh, that you have, that you've read charts for.

I mean, to be honest, I would say that Spencer and Heidi was like a really huge win for me. It was a direct manifestation. Literally the year before, I had written an article for a lore on crystals. And obviously, I had to like pay homage to Crystal King Spencer Pratt. And I like, you know, when I was posting about it on Instagram, I like tagged him. He DM me. It was like, great article.

And I was like, oh, my God. Like, great. We're connected. And I was like, I can't wait to do this guy's birth chart. And then literally a year later, I'm flying out to the Palisades to do his and Heidi's charts. And it was a big highlight of my life. That's amazing. They are dear friends of mine.

And I just love them so much. And I love that's such a good one because he is obviously. so into all of that stuff and i and hidea is too so that's a match made in heaven right there yeah i it was amazing they're like such a great leo vergo dream team are they really yeah well i need to dive into my my um if i'm a dream team with jason which i think we are all right do you own or rent your own home i'm sure you do and i bet it can be hard work you know what's easy bundling policies with geico geico makes it easy to bundle your home owners or renters insurance along with your auto policy and it's a good thing too because you already have so much to do around

your home go to geico.com get a quote and see how much you could save it's guyco easy visit guyco com today that's guyco dot com everybody always wants to know and i always blame murk uh no what is it mercury retrograde we always blame it what is it great question um so mercury retrograde happens three or four times each year. It's not rare. It's a very normal part of Mercury's orbit. And in that time, there's an optical illusion that occurs where Mercury appears

to be moving backwards in the sky. So it's not actually moving backwards, but it's basically like if you're driving at the same speed as a car and then you zoom past it, it looks like it's pulling back. That's basically what the effect is. But suffice it to say, even an optical illusion can be really disorienting.

So Mercury, which represents communication and technology and any sort of like transmission, cars, any way that we get from point A to point B, when that appears to move backwards, it screws up all of those conduits of transmission. So we are sending emails to, we're replying all on emails we were BCCed on, we're like texting our dad, the nudes we wanted to send her boyfriend, like it's just a fucking disaster. And the reason is because we are all thrown off. It's not like apocalyptic. You know, I think that the media does love to spin it because it's like, you know, it's spinnable. Like it happens frequently, people know it, it has name recognition.

It's not the end of the world, but it is annoying. Yeah, like Carol Baskin can't blame killing her husband on Mercury being in retrograde. Did she, did she? No, I'm just saying. I was like, this is, how did you get that tea? No, I'm just saying if she tried to blame it on that. It's not an excuse. Right, exactly.

Other things would have had you been going on. Right. Okay. But I, you know, I did all the charts for a Tiger King. You did? Yes. It was the first thing. It was the first thing I had to do. Okay. So what is that, like what goes into making a star chart or a birth chart? Like, what goes into that? So you need, in order to render a really accurate birth chart, you need to have date, time, and location of birth. Okay.

So when you're working one-on-one with someone, you know, if they book a session, like usually by the time you speak with them, they'll either have texted their mom or found their birth certificate or, like, tried to narrow down that window. But oftentimes when you're doing it for celebrities, aka Joe Exotic, that information, the time of birth isn't available. So you work with what you have. You find their birth time. You find their location. you stock as many, you know, newspaper articles as you possibly can of the birth announcement, which is how we found Joe Exotic's exact time of birth. Really?

There was a birth announcement in like the Oklahoma paper wherever he was born. I don't think it was, I think it was Kansas. But either way, wherever it was, there was a birth announcement with the time of birth. So, yeah, we were able to get his whole birth chart. And what did that look like? It looked really sensitive and really. and felt barely undervalued, very unappreciated, just looked a little dark, but I don't think that's a big surprise.

No, that makes a lot of sense. Can you do dog birth charts? Because I heard that you can, but at the same time, I don't know when my dogs were born because they were rescues. So you can definitely do dog birth charts. You can do anything that was born has a birth chart, which also includes events. You know, you could do a birth chart for the time that, like, when something happened, that's notable in your life.

So if, you know, you got a, you know, if you got a phone call with a really exciting opportunity at 706, you could do a birth chart for what that opportunity is. Oh, that's interesting. I had no idea. Yeah. So anything that is created, whether that is a person or an animal or an event, has a birth chart. Because basically what a birth chart is, is it's just a snapshot of what the sky looked like at a specific moment. That was something I did for Jason as a gift was when we first met.

I can't remember what it's like a thing you can do online of what the sky looked like the night you met. Oh, yeah, I love those. Yeah, it's so cool. So, Kenny, are you able to do that, like, on the podcast for me and tell me stuff? Yeah, for sure. Okay. You have your time of birth? Yes.

Oh, then, yeah. Ah, I'm so excited. Okay, so I was born June 19th, so 6. 19th. First, where, what is the, what city were you born in? Edmonton, Alberta, and Canada. Okay. Okay. And then you said, Albertan? Yeah, it's Alberta and the city is Edmonton. Oh, Edmonton. Okay, all those, right?

Edmonton, yeah. And you said you were born June 19th, 85. And what time? 732 a.m. Okay, okay. So, okay. So psychic. I know. Wow. Very positive.

Yes. So you are a Gemini sun, a cancer moon, and a cancer rising. Having been born in the morning at 7.32 a.m., you were born right after the sun rose in the sky. So your son is in this area of your chart called the 12th house, which is the most psychic region that it could be in. Your son is your sense of self. So that is like you equals super psychic. But then in addition to that, you actually have Mars in there too, which is the planet of action, the moon, which is your emotions, and Mercury, which is your communication. So four of these really significant personal planets are all in the 12th house, the psychic subconscious, dreamy domain. So

Even though you're a Gemini, you are not the average Gemini. Okay, I felt that because I feel like, well, we can talk about Gemini's next. But, okay, yeah, keep going. Well, that is, I would say, the thing that really jumps out to me, number one, first and foremost, is how much cancer energy there is here with you being a cancer moon and a cancer rising, but then also Mars and Mercury and cancer. And then all of these, when you have three or more planets in the same area, it's called a stelium. So we would say that you have a 12-house stellium. Wow. Okay.

That's so wild because any time I've ever gone to a psychic, they've told me that, too, that I have psychic abilities and that I need to tap into it. Well, do you think you do? Yeah. I mean, I know I do. I just don't, I don't do anything with it. I just know that I feel things and like like I know I know I feel things or see things or hear things or like if I'm in a state where I'm like kind of asleep but kind of awake I can actually like feel people walking around me. Yeah. So I was going to ask you my follow up question is that

usually if I see the sun in this area, I might be inclined to ask somebody if they have like if they can speak to spirits or if they have ghost stories if like that is a part of their narrative but because you have so many planets in here and they're all so potent i would not even ask you i would say tell me about how you talk to spirits i just it's pretty straightforward that's so yeah i definitely there were times like my girlfriend and i we just got together like before all the pandemic stuff um and we bring out all of our crystals and we try and it was so wild because i had my phone like resting on the table and i had been like trying to invite someone in and my pop socket just like dropped on my table and the phone just went as soon as i said anything and i was like

all right okay i can do this and then i've got so many stories so many of um like ghosts or spirits visiting this house and certain things like I feel a really strong dog energy around me um like for the last oh gosh like eight years and I don't know what that could be but I definitely feel it that's so interesting I know dogs in I think in a lot of symbolism dogs have a lot to do with like a protector energy um somebody who or like the energy of someone who's, like, watching out for you. Okay. Oh, that's interesting.

The symbolism of dogs is interesting. Huh. Really? Yeah, because I definitely feel like I can, maybe it's a cat. I don't know, but I just feel like paws on me in bed sometimes. Wow. Yeah. Oh, my goodness.

Well, I'm glad that that resonates and checks out so true because, like, you know, if I was looking at your chart and I saw this and I saw this and I said, said, you know, I would say you are so psychic. You are sort of a mediary between these two, an intermediary between these two different planes, these two realms. And you were like, nah, I don't think so. Then we would have an issue because I'd be like, well, you are. Like, this is so definitive. This is so clear cut to me that there's not really any room for interpretation. It's like the 12th house is so important because it is the transition between our reality, and another reality.

Depending on who that person is, the other reality could be a number of different things. You know, it doesn't necessarily need to be the spirit world, but it is something. And a lot of the time when someone has as many planets as you do in the 12th house, and they haven't connected to their intuition or they haven't allowed that to sort of come through, at least as part of their identification,

they end up creating secrets in their life in different ways to create that dimensionality. So it could be with drugs or alcohol or with affairs. Like some, in some way, someone who has the type of configuration that you have is going to want to create one reality and another reality. Now, is that how something to do with Gemini's because, or is that completely different? Because I think often people think that Gemini's mean like two different personalities. So is that fall under that or something completely different?

I mean, it's a little, my answer is a little esoteric, so bear with me, but Gemini is duality, but it's not the only sign that has duality in it. Pisces is also, if you look at the symbol of Pisces, it looks kind of like a cursive H, and it's two fish swimming in opposite directions. So there are other signs that have, like, that are bifurcated in those ways, but Gemini is like it's the twins so it's the most iconic of the different duality but this area the 12th house is associated with Pisces energy so you still have that duality and your Gemini emphasizes that duality more but it's not only because your son is in Gemini that you have that wow oh I love this so much all right vinos I want to take a minute to talk to you about a brand

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I just talked to his mom about his birth time. Oh, good. Okay, so first birthplace. Buffalo, New York. Okay, and birthday? October 24th, 88. and time. 11.40 a.m.

Okay, so he is a. Sun in Scorpio, rising sign in Sagittarius, and moon in Ares. So to clarify, because I feel like this is a good opportunity for me to plug one of my most very important astrology facts

is that there are no such thing as cusp signs. in astrology. So despite the fact that Jason is an early Scorpio, he is not a Libra Scorpio cusp. There are no such thing as a custom sign. Okay. I always thought there was. Good to know. Yes. And the reason for that is because there are 12 signs in the zodiac. The zodiac is a circle. So you take 360 degrees, divided by 12, each is 30 degrees. So each sign is exactly 30 degrees. So the sun, is either in the last degree of one sign or the very beginning of a new sign. It's never sort of like in a mush-mash between them. Gotcha. Okay. So he is a early degree, a one-degree Scorpio's sun. But there's a lot of fire energy in his chart. So with the rising sign and Sagittarius

shows us how he sees the world. And as a Sagittarius rising, he sees the world as an adventure. He sees the world as like, wants to explore, wants to go off-roading, wants to try new things, have fun, get out there. But what's interesting is that that's a really different energy from Scorpio, which is much more private, much more secretive, much more protective. So there's, you can already just between the Sun and the Rising, see some of that tension at play. but and you have this too uh yours is kind of the reverse yours is kind of the flipped version of that where you're externally more social and then internally more reserved um whereas his is that he is externally more reserved but really he is like oh my gosh that's wild yeah does that resonate for him oh yeah yeah and then with that aries moon so the moon shows us how we take action or

the moon shows us our emotions and it's in the sign of aries which is all about action so if he does not feel like he is doing something uh he is feels very emotionally unstable yes that is so he's the most ambitious and that like he needs to be doing something that he loves and that he works hard at and that he's successful at and it's so him like he wants to just go out and blah go go but he's very um like he gets and this is funny mortified that i'm so publicly open with certain things but behind closed doors he's just as open and hilarious and like we'll go there but that's everything you said is so true well there's really lovely compatibility between you guys i was going to ask that next okay you're so without getting too technical uh you'll just have

to suspend disbelief and trust me on these things sometimes okay his rising sign is Sagittarius, your son sign is Gemini, Sagittarius and Gemini are opposites. So basically, you are his better half. Like, you fall in an area called the seventh house. And for him that the seventh house is like, what is my ideal partnership that look like? And that's you. But you also call him out on his bullshit. And it's also, it also can be really intense for him because he has to look at things that he may have not wanted to acknowledge prior to the relationship. I wish people could see the smile on my face right now. I'm just like, it's so true.

That is so true. And he'll say those same things that things that he's never thought about until being in this relationship. What is, and what is his sign and everything do for me? Let me look. So that's, I'm glad that you even said it in that way because it's true. we think of compatibility as this sort of like solitary single concept, but really compatibility is a two-way street. Like when we look to see if someone is compatible, we need to look at person A to

person B and then also person B to person A. Absolutely. Because someone, you know, one relationship can make someone feel really confident and inspired and like on their shit. And then the other can be super triggering and make them feel really, like, insecure. So you want to make sure that both sides are complementing each other in good ways. Yes. So let's first see where his Scorpio... Oh, you love him. I do.

That's so cute. Oh, and you want to collaborate in, like, really big, exciting ways with him, too. Yes, we talk about it all the time. Yes. So his son and rising both fall in your fifth house, and that is, the sun is right on the edge of it, but more or less in your fifth house, which is the area of the chart that's about creativity and love and romance and babies making babies want and all the babies so whether you are making like literal physical babies or you're making creative babies that is you know a big part of your

draw to him but then his moon that aries moon falls in your tent house which is your career and your ambition so his him being so motivated motivates you yes and he's so like he um is one of the smartest human beings I've ever met in my life and we help each other in the sense where he helps me so much on the business side of things with you know the finances and money and all of those things and I help him so much with the creativeness and and like how I can help him on that end of things because he's so good with he's so well spoken he can help anybody he his YouTube channel like he just helps people save money and he's just really a really smart guy and I'm like but okay that would be great but you need to

do this in order to get people to tune in and like we help each other so much in that way. Am I making sense? Okay. But yeah, that's, it's just so interesting because we have talked so many times about collaborating on something pretty big that, I mean, wouldn't happen for a few years. But yeah. Yeah. I think that that is going to be a really wonderful extension of the relationship.

I, you know, and it's, it's cool because you guys are a Gemina, just on SunSign. Gemini, Scorpio, if you ever read just boring-ass sun sign compatibility, it'll be like, is they're never compatible. They'll never get along. But astrology is so much more complex than just sun signs. It is such a disservice to just look at somebody's sun sign and try to gauge compatibility from that. I hope nobody really does that because I feel like they would end up missing out on some

seriously important relationships. I know. I feel like I used to. but that was just before I really like dove into learning more about it. I made a fucking app about it. But I have learned the error of my ways. What's your favorite app now to use for that kind of thing? Well, I no longer am on any dating apps because I've been in a relationship for three years.

But now I just use, I just look at pictures of dogs most of the time. So whatever app will deliver that to me. That's amazing. How can we use our star charts and astrology in general to work on ourselves and take advantage about what we know about ourselves? So I think that at the time that we're recording this right now, there's a casual global pandemic that is terrifying. And I think that this is a great example of why astrology is so important because astrology provides so much insight and so much perspective. that depending on what we want to discover about ourselves, we can look at our birth chart to really

unpack a very specific and maybe a sort of an unknown component and dimension of who we are. Like, all of us are spending a lot of time at home now. But that's not how we usually move through the world. So a lot of us are probably learning things about ourselves that we would not have otherwise been exposed to because our circumstances are so different from what life looked like prior to this. And in the birth chart, it accounts for that. You know, there's specific areas that you could look at to see, you know, what is the best way for you to isolate? What's the best way for you to make a cozy home for yourself? So the birth chart just like amplifies our ability to understand ourselves. And then, of course, to understand other people and to be more empathetic and

more sensitive to the fact that all of us are totally different. Is there like a way to access, like can anyone access a birth chart and look that up? Yes, anyone can look up their birth chart. It's my favorite app to use, which is available on iPhone and now Android, and it's free, is called time passages. I think that time passages, I have no relationship with time passages here, just a genuine recommendation. I think that they do a really nice job.

displaying the birth wheel but you can also go on astro.com what I would caution people against is using an app or a platform that delivers the information in like a list form as opposed to a wheel because in a list it might it may appear like you don't have certain planets in certain houses or you're missing certain things but when you look at it in a wheel, you see that everything is, you have everything. It's just going to look different from one person to the next. And what is your sign, by the way? I am a Leo with a Capricorn rising and a Pisces moon. Okay. So do you feel any psychic abilities or no? I do, but they're not in the same way I think you do. I'm very interpersonally psychic.

like I can read people really well and I like you know I can also anticipate things that happen but I don't I'm not a medium I have never communicated with a spirit at least as right now by right point I have not yet wait you can predict things or you feel things coming on yeah I do whoa what's the craziest thing you've ever predicted well I a few the things, but they're kind of, they're all kind of depressing. Oh. So I can, so a story that is not depressing, but is definitely the first time that I realized that I needed to take this seriously is when I was 19 and I was studying abroad in Rome,

living my Lizzie McGuire dream. And I had, I was, had a, I had a boyfriend who was from Pittsburgh and we were both on this program together. He went to one weekend. He went on like a trip with one of his classes to Brussels. And I went and visited another friend who was in Prague. This is also like 2009. So we didn't have smartphones then. So it was like minimal communication while we were in these different countries. And when I met my friend and started the weekend, I was like, oh yeah, I'm happy. I'm you have this great boyfriend and as the weekend progressed I even though I was not really you know there was nothing indicating a problem I started to feel worse and worse and worse about it I by the

time I landed in Rome I was like hysterical I was crying sobbing like just felt sick horrible just miserable I get back to my apartment and I call my friend who had been on that same trip with him and I was like crying and I was like please come over I just feel so bad so she comes over knocks I open the door and she's like I am so sorry and I was like what are you sorry about and she was like why are you crying and I was like I don't know I just feel horrible I just I felt horrible since Saturday and she was like oh shit like I he cheated on you like I I thought you would have known this if you were hysterically crying already. Like, he was going to tell you this.

Gosh. Yeah. And then, but she didn't tell me, you know, like, I just knew. And then when I confronted him about it, he was like, who told you? Did Beth me tell you? And I was like, no, nobody told me. And it doesn't matter who told me, you dick. Did it. Like, who cares?

But it was the first time that something, like, I saw something just so, it was such a direct one to one of. what I was feeling and what happened. That that was when I realized I needed to start really honoring that and taking it seriously, which really sucked for the rest of my, like, 20's dating life. Because if I got a feeling like somebody was distancing themselves or talking to somebody else or, like, ghosting me, like, I was always 100% right. But they would try to be like, no, everything's fine and normal.

It's all cool. You're like, no, no, my intuition is fine and cool and on point. So that has been sort of, that's really the way that I have seen it in dating. No, but more expansive from that. But I definitely, I always trust my intuition. I do too. Jason always says it's crazy how I always win rock paper scissors because I swear I trust my intuition all the time. And that's how I win.

And it's when I don't, that I'm not paying attention, that I lose. There you go. I mean, that's a metaphor. I know. Rock paper is a metaphor for life. Oh, man. It's crazy. Do you have any suggestions for how I could, like, get more in tune with my abilities?

Well, I would, I mean, it sounds like you are already well on your way. So that's great. I would, and you're, you know, you invited an astrologer. you're on your podcast so like keep at it yes but I would say that you I would say trying to find to sort of like hone in on the thing that makes you excited or it feels intriguing um would be a good place to dive more into because again like it's going to look different for everybody you know some people are going to feel deeply connected to, you know, people who have passed. Some people might feel more connected to animals.

Some people might feel more connected to, like, the collective consciousness, you know, and sort of like, how do I heal intergenerational trauma, or how can I work with people who have had alcoholic parents and, you know, I can feel their pain and therefore empathize or whatever it is. So I would say finding the thing that really speaks to you, whether that is personal or just something that you gravitate towards, and then exploring that is going and seeing what comes up and how you, you know, what, how you feel in different situations as you learn about it is a good way to see how that could fit into it.

But if, for instance, you had a problem, which I'm sure you do, of like, becoming very, of like, knowing something and then taking on other people's energy, a good solution for that. And what I like to do is do sort of what I call like an energy read. So if I'm going into a situation, and this could even just be for me, like a day of a lot of meetings, because I can get really emotionally and energetically drained from that. So if I go, if at the beginning of the day, I'll sort of just do a check from head to toe and be like, what hurts, you know, did I sleep on my neck wrong? Like, do I have a headache? Like, just sort of assess how you feel prior to the day. And then at the end of the day, you do that same energetic read and notice what is different from how it was before you entered

that space. Does your hip hurt suddenly? Do you feel fatigued where you didn't before in a certain way? Or like, you know, do you feel, does your stomach hurt? Do you feel nauseous? And most likely that is where you're storing the energy that you picked up from the day. So noting where that sort of finds itself in your body, identifying that and then either like, you know, doing breathwork into it or meditating on it or just doing some sort of a cleansing ritual, taking a shower that's very conscious and active and being like, I'm scrubbing this away. All of that would be sufficient. yeah i get really um when i'm tense or stressed or like feeling something it always goes into my um

like mid to lower left hand side of my back and and my neck and then i can feel it and i always do that shower like i i take very um conscious showers like because my girlfriend is so important it really is my girlfriend said and i don't know if you believe this too but she said it's like there's something about it that takes you back like to the womb like cleansing like that yes um when i was in high school and i had like my first bad emotional breakup i started doing this thing called rejuvenating shower is what i called it and it is still like it's still the move like it when you when you need a to change your energy rejuvenating shower like which is literally just taking a normal shower, but knowing you're taking a shower with the intention of coming out of it with

a different state of mind. Yes, I agree. It's, it is in intentions of, like, I will, I will sit on the floor of my shower and, like, feel the water and just like, let it. I'm in, I am with you in that move. It's one of my favorite things is to actually just like, well, my girlfriend always gets concerned about me because she's like, I hate how you always have like shower naps because I just like love laying in like even fetal position in the shower and just like feeling the water on me sometimes I shut my eyes but that's okay like it's sometimes I go to sleep for a very long time but it does it changes my whole mood we'll be right back with more off the vine grape therapy hello shut your piehole welcome to big dimmy energy I'm your host

Demi Burnett, and I'm so excited to have you joining my podcast. Some things you can expect from this podcast are some juicy gossip, some good advice, some fun, exciting guests, and a lot of other surprises. Surprise! Make sure you subscribe to Spotify, Apple Podcast, or Podcasts, or Podcasts, wherever you listen to your podcast. Now back to Off the Vibe, Grape Therapy. Okay, I have a factor fiction astrology. questions okay love it is okay fact or fiction astrology is related to psychic activity who uh fiction yeah yeah i see what you mean um there are certain professions that lend themselves

to specific signs fact okay astrology is the same as astronomy fiction oh my god if any astronomer heard me try to make a comparison to astronomy and astrology. They would literally come to my apartment and try to like, I don't even know. I'm very scared of astronomers. That's funny. There is a 13th zodiac sign. The most fiction of all fictions. So thank you for allowing me to myth bust that one. Okay, good. Why do people think that? this i mean so it's so funny because when people send me the article of like NASA just said there's a 13th sign like i know that that person who's sending it to me

thinks that they're sending me something that you know is like groundbreaking but that has literally been circulating the internet for since the beginning of the internet like it's it's like a chain letter practically um like pass this on or you will die of... Yeah, or right, like a little girl with bloody eyes that's going to call him to you. No, it's like, I don't know when NASA decided to say, I don't even know if they did,

but it's based on, I think, this... Some fedora-wearing dude who was like, actually, there are more than 12 constellations, but the thing is, is that the zodiac signs are not based on constellations. Right. There's obviously a lot more than 12 or 13 constellations. there's no big dipper sign you know zodiac signs are not based on constellation so yeah

to be like there's a whole other and it's like ophicus or something like it's no yeah okay um and then would you rather astrology readings so if you could perform readings on the following celebrities in person who would you rather read oh my god Oprah or Ellen Oprah duh Ellen's close but it's Oprah. They're both Aquarius, so that's interesting. Oh, are they really? Yes. You would get the Aquarius sun on both reeds, but no, I, Oprah, Oprah over most. I was going to say, I could probably ask you Oprah versus anyone and you'd probably pick Oprah. Jay-Z or Kanye West? Jay-Z, because I just don't really think I could handle having, I think that that would be too

energetically training for me. Totally. Kim Kardashian or Taylor Swift? You know, what's really interesting is that you're unknowingly, the people that you're connecting have a lot of sign connections in their charts. Really? Yes. Oh, wild. Yes.

Kim Kardashian is a Sagittarius Rising and Taylor Swift is a Sagittarius Sun. I think that I would rather read Taylor Swift. I feel like she would be, I feel like she's maybe a little more self-aware and like, could hang with it. I saw the documentary, so I know. Totally. Oh, me too. Miley Cyrus or Selena Gomez? Miley Cyrus. Brittany Spears or Katie Perry?

Brittany Friars, who also, like, I feel like I might be, I feel like Britney Spears might be 2021's 2019 Spencer Pratt manifestation. Like, I feel like I'm getting every day I'm closer to doing a chart reading for Brittany. That's probably why I brought her up. Yes, thank you. Just putting it more into the universe. I love Brittany so much. And like every day, I'm just like, obviously people are concerned for her as I'm

but she seems so happy. Listen, like, Brittany is weird. Yeah. He's always been weird. And it is, she's a Sagittarius sun. She is an Aquarius moon. She is a definitely like a pure alien. So like she's good.

Because they do like, you know about like aura readings, obviously. Like this girl that I'm friends with, Mystic Michaela, she was like talking about how Britney's aura colors are like so rare and like so vibrant and all these. And I was like, oh, that makes so much sense. Oh, my God. I love to hear that. Yes. Yeah. Oh, you should look up Mystic Michaela.

she's she's incredible i will yeah she does really cool things but yeah she also she sent me a message the other day it was wild i'm going to open it up um she sent me a message and said just checking in on you i felt your energy so hard today just sending you lots of love and i was like how did she feel my energy i was like having one of the worst days and like it was wow i was like oh my gosh and then she said um she's like yeah i was just like oh my gosh is she okay your colors were a little misty but you bounce back so good and i'm like that too so i get it and i was like and i don't know her very well i just had her on my podcast and like she says that i'm like yes i bounce back so easily but like feel things so hard wow that's i love that like i i feel very strongly

that if you think of somebody um mystical or not mystical you should message them and like just even if it's just thinking of you or hey like no need to respond but just want to let you know that like you are in my conscious mind right now yeah because you never know what why you are thinking of someone at a particular moment and and if that happens that can change somebody's day too like I remember my girlfriend did that to me and I don't know if she you know is in tune with anything like that but she just reached out she was like you're on my mind today and I it just helped my whole day It's such a easy thing to do, and it makes such a world of difference.

Yeah, that's amazing. And where can everybody find you and your books and, like, everything that we would need to find out about you is give a website, Instagram, all that? I do. So it's everything is Elisa Kelly, A-L-I-Z-A-K-E-L-L-Y, so that's on Instagram and Twitter and TikTok. Yes, girl. Because I, you know, I'm a millennial.

now on Genzee platform. It's quarantine. Everybody can like that. It's fine. Yeah. But it's also eliza Kelly.com. And you can find my podcast called Stars Like Us on all of the standard podcast places. Yeah.

And when people come to your podcast or your page or anything, what are they going to find? Well, if they go to my Instagram, you're going to find a lot of, I would say probably the best memes on the internet. I feel very passionately about my astrology memes. I think they're beautiful. I think they're thoughtful. But then also a lot of important information about what's going on in the world. Right now, obviously, like a lot of interpretations of how the planets in their particular places are affecting and influencing what's happening on a looser scale. I guess I could also mention here that I have been talking about 2020 for the past three years

and it's you know I and I have receipts because I have been really really talking about it for the past three years that it's going to be it's an completely unprecedented year and it's going to change everything really yeah and like I it's you know it's in articles it's on a podcast like just very out in the open not uh no shady business there it's yeah yeah astrology of 2020 yeah yeah the astrology of 2020 is extraordinarily rare uh very very intense and nobody um it hasn't most of the astrology that's happening now hasn't happened for either hundreds of years or thousands of years wow it's completely completely unprecedented to us.

And do you think, do you have any, like, thoughts about 2021? Is it going to just be so much better or is, I don't know? I was laughing with a friend of mine the other day because I spent, like, practically my entire practice. Like, I feel like I spent 50% of my time as an astrologer sort of, like, foreshadowing 2020. And now that we're here, it's like, I kind of, like, haven't done as much research on anything past this time because so much of my energy was dedicated to 2020 um wow so i i have to

actually like take some time and really look at where things go in 2021 i feel uh from what i have noticed so far i feel i feel more optimistic about 2021 than i do 2020 um but not until really 2026 are we going to get out of this particular phase that we're in. Holy shit. Really? Yeah. We're all learning and growing. We're all here for a reason. Like, we're all, every single person who is listening to this right now is alive. And if you are alive, then you're here for a reason. Because the astrology of this moment is so fucking bizarre and intense that it's very like there is no coincidence that anyone who is alive

right now is alive everybody is here with a purpose wow okay well i like that yes so i think there's a lot of magic and a lot of like really empowering there's a really empowering spirit to that um but at the same time that means that we all have to like you know i would say things that throw on our Mad Max outfits, but really it's all just throw on our pajamas at this moment get to work. Wow. Okay. I like that. It's scary, but I also like your thought process on it. Yes. I like it too. I mean, it just is what it is, you know? Yeah, it is what it is. That's been my motto for the last couple of months. It is what it is and do what you can control. And it's, it's scary. But like you said, we're all here for a reason. And even though, like as long as there,

is a way out. I'm not too concerned with the timing as long as it's in our foreseeable future. Yeah, I feel like we can all handle it. If you're here right now, you can handle it. So we have to adjust and we have to change our perspective because it is unprecedented, you know? But it was before anyway. Like all of this is weird. We're in a weird moment. The weirdest moment ever. Yeah, it's it's absolutely wild well thank you so so much for coming on the podcast and and talking about this i i love this topic and i could do eight more podcasts in a row about it so um we'll have to do it again and uh because i want you to um talk to jason about it because he's more of like he's he's not skeptic he's just not into it and i just love watching him hearing people talk

about it because then he's like oh like it like starts clicking for him and i love love when I see him get into it. Yeah, I understand. I mean, Scorpio, if he's just reading about Scorpio, that's not really, that's not really the full picture, too. So, totally. Yeah, we got to get that nuance in there. Yes, ma'am. Okay. Well, thank you so much. I'm Caitlin Bristow. Your session is now ending. Thanks for listening to Off the Vine, Grape Therapy. Tune in to hear new mini-sodes every Thursday and check out new full-length episodes every Tuesday, exclusively on. on Podcast One.com, the Podcast One app, and subscribe on Apple Podcasts.

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